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Charmageddon
May 16th, 2010, 09:57 AM
Writing on the gym leader thread made me think - what types do you think we'll see in Black and White's Elite Four (and Champion)?

The only types not seen yet in the E4 are Normal, Flying, Electric and Grass, so I think they are most likely to be there. And maybe a multi-typed Champion like Blue and Cynthia? What do you think/hope we'll see?

Hoenn
May 16th, 2010, 10:02 AM
Yeah, I'd like to see a Flying type user for the Elite Four

JAK3
May 16th, 2010, 10:24 AM
Yeah, I'd like to see a Flying type user for the Elite Four
A flying type Champion would be interesting, but what other types haven't we seen yet, such as, Electric? Or have we had that?

Mew~
May 16th, 2010, 10:27 AM
I think you may have just named em all :D
Normal, Flying, Electric and Grass... though, I don't like that lineup so we might get repeat type trainers!
Oh, and im hoping for another multitype champion! :D

Timbjerr
May 16th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Multitype champions are boring imo. I like something like Steven where there's an obvious sandstorm theme, but there's diversity within. I like a Flying-type champion because it's easy to get internal diversity in a flying monotype team.

Waffle-San
May 16th, 2010, 10:34 AM
Flying would make for an intense Elite 4 member. I'm really hoping for an electric one but when it comes to the Elite 4 I just hope that there's serious type diversity. I mean having Ground and Fire elite 4 is easy, you just bring a Water type. But if you have a Fire, Grass and Fighting. Now a water type isn't just going to cut it. We need 4 types that need maximum to coverage to be covered.

BeachBoy
May 16th, 2010, 10:38 AM
I want a champion with a full-out strategy that's difficult to just set-up on and sweep. Something surprisingly difficult this time. :D

Also, it seems we've been missing water-types for a while, which would make for some interesting teams. ;D 93 pokemon and counting in the type! Wallace doesn't count.

Weber
May 16th, 2010, 10:48 AM
i think it would be fun if there was a double battle in the elite four, maybe even the chapion(s) were a double battle, and they each had one type of pokemon.


i also think it would be some what challenging to have the whole elite four be multitype.

Samme!
May 16th, 2010, 10:51 AM
i think it would be fun if there was a double battle in the elite four, maybe even the chapion(s) were a double battle, and they each had one type of pokemon.

That's actually a really neat idea now that I think about it. It'd be interesting to see because the last double battle leaders were Tate & Liza in Hoenn, and they weren't very well delivered. It'd be great to have something spice up the Elite Four, and I really like Double Battles too :3

The Cynic
May 16th, 2010, 11:26 AM
I'd love an Electric Elite 4 member but it would require Game Freak to think up some new type combos or you could just sweep with ground and grass.

No more Psychic, Ghost, Ice or Dragon Elite 4 members. They're just unsurprising. Dark would notbe necessary as there will almost definately be a Dark gym leader.

The champion I want to be based on one type again, like in G/S/C,HG/SS and R/S/E. Perhaps a Dark champion, as well as a Dark gym leader (like Juan and Wallace in Emerald). A Ground-type champion would be an awesome idea too (Giovanni as champion = epic).

jon328
May 16th, 2010, 11:29 AM
i hope for a multitype champion:D

Bay Alexison
May 16th, 2010, 12:08 PM
A flying type Champion would be interesting, but what other types haven't we seen yet, such as, Electric? Or have we had that?
Charmageddon already mentions the only Elite 4 that didn't come are also Normal and Grass.

Some of you mention a Flying type Elite. Um, don't we already have one, Lance? :P *gets shot* Seriously though, technically he should be considered a flying type elite because all of his dragons have flying as a secondary type. Then again, if you go to him for a rematch, he has a couple new dragon Pokemon. :x

Actually, I would like a Normal type Elite 4. True, you can sweep them with Fighting, but there are endless possibilities of the types of attacks they'll use.

Multitype champions are boring imo. I like something like Steven where there's an obvious sandstorm theme, but there's diversity within. I like a Flying-type champion because it's easy to get internal diversity in a flying monotype team.
Totally agree with you on that. Seriously, Steven is like the toughest elite I have faced. Both Cynthia and Gary/Blue are easy once you get some good movesets going. Steven, on the other hand, has ways to dealt with you. D: Maybe there should be a champion like Steven-still has a type specialty but also has Pokemon that are different types too.

DXrobots
May 16th, 2010, 12:37 PM
I want it to be completely balanced level wise I don't want the first member to be 10 levels weaker then the champion.

Esper
May 16th, 2010, 12:44 PM
Let's see a Rock-type champion. That would throw everyone for a loop since it's always been the first gym type and the weakest. It would be the Rock-type lovers' revenge.

Hamilton
May 16th, 2010, 12:49 PM
someone said it already
double battle in the elete four
heck, maybe have tate and liza grow up and advance through the ranks- they did it with Koga (gym leader to elite four)

Charmageddon
May 16th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Charmageddon already mentions the only Elite 4 that didn't come are also Normal and Grass.


Er...

The only types not seen yet in the E4 are Normal, Flying, Electric and Grass...

;)

A double-battle E4 member would be great, I hope they implement that.

chaos11011
May 16th, 2010, 02:04 PM
Well technicly Lance was a flying E4 all of his pokes are Flying type but he anounces himself as dragon.

Zorua
May 16th, 2010, 03:03 PM
I want a champion with a full-out strategy that's difficult to just set-up on and sweep. Something surprisingly difficult this time. :D

Also, it seems we've been missing water-types for a while, which would make for some interesting teams. ;D 93 pokemon and counting in the type! Wallace doesn't count.

This. Make the Elite four the Elite four and not something you can beat with half a team like people seem to be doing(including myself with HG/SS). I want some strategy and difficulty incorporated into this game, it'd make it pretty interesting.

LolcakesxD
May 16th, 2010, 03:09 PM
A champion that ev trains and has pokemon with flawless ivs. LOLOL

JAK3
May 16th, 2010, 03:17 PM
What if, instead of focusing on the types, the Elite four focuses on Strategic moves, like, a Toxic stalling team, but all the Pokemon that toxic stall you, are walls, so they are hard to kill, Example: Shuckle. That would make for a hard Elite four Fight!

Volroc
May 16th, 2010, 03:20 PM
simple this:

NO SINGLE TYPE TRAINERS!

every member of the elite four has a diverse team of pokemon, that covers each others weaknesses, now THAT would be the true elite four.

JAK3
May 16th, 2010, 03:26 PM
simple this:

NO SINGLE TYPE TRAINERS!

every member of the elite four has a diverse team of pokemon, that covers each others weaknesses, now THAT would be the true elite four.
A good Idea Volroc, especially since it covers the discussion about this game being harder than all the past Generations.
G'night everyone, I'm going to go to bed, Peace.

Pityflame
May 16th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Brock should be the champion.

GlitchCity
May 16th, 2010, 03:37 PM
anyone up for another dragon type user? Let see

1st E4: grass
2nd E4: electric
3rd E4: flying
4th E4: dragon
Champ: dark >:D

Bay Alexison
May 16th, 2010, 03:46 PM
Er...



;)

A double-battle E4 member would be great, I hope they implement that.
Actually, reason I didn't say Flying or Electric because JAK3 already mentions those two.

Writing on the gym leader thread made me think - what types do you think we'll see in Black and White's Elite Four (and Champion)?

The only types not seen yet in the E4 are Normal, Flying, Electric and Grass, so I think they are most likely to be there. And maybe a multi-typed Champion like Blue and Cynthia? What do you think/hope we'll see?
A flying type Champion would be interesting, but what other types haven't we seen yet, such as, Electric? Or have we had that?

Now...

Charmageddon already mentions the only Elite 4 that didn't come are also Normal and Grass.
When I replied to his quote, I was just saying how you also mention Grass and Normal when JAK 3 didn't seem to realize that. Either my wording is wrong or I should have just quote from you. Maybe both. x_x

I want a champion with a full-out strategy that's difficult to just set-up on and sweep. Something surprisingly difficult this time. :D

Also, it seems we've been missing water-types for a while, which would make for some interesting teams. ;D 93 pokemon and counting in the type! Wallace doesn't count.
This. Make the Elite four the Elite four and not something you can beat with half a team like people seem to be doing(including myself with HG/SS). I want some strategy and difficulty incorporated into this game, it'd make it pretty interesting.

simple this:

NO SINGLE TYPE TRAINERS!

every member of the elite four has a diverse team of pokemon, that covers each others weaknesses, now THAT would be the true elite four.
As much as I would love the strategy thing going on, that's most likely not going to happen. The Elite 4 will most likely go for a type specialty while the champion might be one of the other. The best thing to go about having the strategy/tactic thing for the Elite 4 is if they're like Steven in R/S/E or Flint in Diamond and Pearl (not Platinum). Both of them say they have a type specailty, but they got Pokemon whose types are totally different and also them having a variety of moves that can throw you off at times. I guess Lance go under that category too. Champion same thing, but maybe another mulitype one would surface.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
May 16th, 2010, 03:53 PM
I want an elite four in which each member specializes in two types, this will keep type specization but make it mix to make things harder!

Haza
May 16th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Yeah, I really want an E4 that focuses more on Strategy and themes than types. It is way too easy when you know what types their Pokemon are.

Charmageddon
May 17th, 2010, 05:59 AM
Actually, reason I didn't say Flying or Electric because JAK3 already mentions those two.

Now...

When I replied to his quote, I was just saying how you also mention Grass and Normal when JAK 3 didn't seem to realize that. Either my wording is wrong or I should have just quote from you. Maybe both. x_x


Oh, OK. Sorry, my fault, I skim-read your post and missed what you meant. :)

Timbjerr
May 17th, 2010, 06:21 AM
I want an elite four in which each member specializes in two types, this will keep type specization but make it mix to make things harder!

The first couple of games did do that. :P

Lorelei = Ice/Water
Bruno = Fighting/Rock
Agatha = Ghost/Poison
Lance = Dragon/Flying
Koga = Poison/Bug
Karen = Dark/Poison

It wasn't until recently that they've become completely monotype...the Sinnoh E4 excluded because Flint only had two fire-types to work with in DP.

Guy
May 17th, 2010, 06:30 AM
I want a champion with a full-out strategy that's difficult to just set-up on and sweep. Something surprisingly difficult this time. :D

Also, it seems we've been missing water-types for a while, which would make for some interesting teams. ;D 93 pokemon and counting in the type! Wallace doesn't count.
I agree with this idea. A champion with a full-out strategy would be best. Raising the difficulty level of the battle and making it full out to the point where you're at the edge of winning or losing. It seems like it's always something missing not only for the Champion, but for the other Elite members too.

With the Elite members, I agree we're missing out on a Water Type like before. I think having him or her as the last Elite Member would work well. Again though, a team and strategy that could take advantage of those who think they can win by type advantage alone is what I'm looking forward too. I'm hoping abilities take part in all of this as well. As for the other Elite member types, I'm thinking a Normal type is long overdue. They're pretty universal as far as movesets go and could give a good chance in lineup. The other two types I'd like to be a Fighting/Steel/Ground mix, a bit like Bruno in way. Finally, a Grass or Bug type mix would be nice too.

I think I'm aiming for more of a mixed Elite where they not only carry just one specific type of Pokémon, but more of a range to say. Plus with strategy and a smart AI system, I think it'll be quite the game thus far.

RYOUKI
May 17th, 2010, 06:38 AM
Well technicly Lance was a flying E4 all of his pokes are Flying type but he anounces himself as dragon.
Just like Agatha. We all know her Pokemon are all Poison but she insist it on being Ghost.

Frankly, yeah. I'd like a Champion who only has one type. I think they're harder to beat. For a Champion who has multiple type, you only get to strategise a little and boom, instant win. For a one-Champion, on the other hand, if he defeats your pwning Pokemon and used up all the PP for that move, it's over. That was why I got troubled by Wallace