Fullmetal Alchemist [Discussion]

[クリス]

Due to the multiple FMA threads, it's obvious FMA needs it's own stickied discussion thread.

So... Talk any & everything FMA here. Enjoy. :)

Btw, FMA airs tonight on Adult Swim! YAY!

[oni flygon]

YAY! FMA RULES!

Tendo, you said that FMA was revived twice...
Actually, it was revived four times

[クリス]

I didn't say it was revived twice, I said Deathbyalice made an FMA thread twice.
*looks for the fourth FMA thread*

I'm recording FMA as we speak! *restrains himself from going to watch it*

[digi-kun]

ya...the stupid recording timer thingy is malfunctioning for me ><

[oni flygon]

I have episodes 1-32...
My cousin is burning the rest for me...(dubbed)
I can't believe it! IT'S FINALLY HERE AFTER ONE YEAR OF WAITING! >3
Any guesses who's going to publish the manga?

[Hoshi]

I just saw FMA...omg....its GREAT!!! Ed's character ish very very, much like Satoshi's! XD

[Jhotos_Power]

yeah that epis. was awesome pretty nasty at the beginning though

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Suprisingly they did NOT cut a thing. The dub reminded me why I love the series so much. :x

[Jhotos_Power]

yeah i sorta noticed that 2, they didnt cut the blood, maybe becuase of adult swim

[Koroku]

Al's voice... so high... so soft... can't hear preview. X_x


But stupid dafjkpawe4r09q283409q8urfawefu;asj VCR didn't record it. --; So I have to record the 2 AM one.

[Jhotos_Power]

lol too bad JKaizer :D, well ghost in the shell just finished

[Koroku]

But I wanted to see the opening~ ;_;

Now i have to wait 'til morning. --;

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Yeah, Al's voice was too low compared to the loud music. :\

[Jhotos_Power]

well its 2:00 am now 1 more hour until u see the beginning jkaizer lol

[oni flygon]

Ed's voice... O_O
I must confess...I like the original japanese dub better...oh well

Ready Steady Go will be the intro...>.>
Good thing they didn't have the into this time. Originally, they put Melissa as an ending in the first episode...XD

Ed's always himself, alright... ^__^ (IMO, I couldn't compare him to another anime character since he's quite unique)

Who's your favorite character, everyone?

Mine:

Clickity if you dare -> Anime: Hughes, Envy, Wrath, Armstrong, Roy, Havoc, Hawkeye, Izumi, Winry
Manga: Ed, Hughes, Envy, Greed, Roy, (all of Roys subordinates [Hawkeye, Havoc, Fury, Breda, Falman), Ling, Barry the Chopper, Armstrong, Izumi, Sig, "Father", Winry

[Kenta]

I watched it last night too. It was pretty good. Though the manga of that first part was cooler.

[oni flygon]

They BUTCHERED READY STEADY GO!...THEY BUTCHERED IT!
They made the ending with Melissa clips and the music as Ready Steady Go! ...
ARGH! They destroyed my favorite opening... =.=

[Koroku]

I want to know why Scar was in it. o___O

He doesn't show up for quite a few episodes. o_o

[Kimi-Kaizer]

FMA is gonna be a great Anime ^_^ so far its the best anime that i've ever watched and im like obsessed with it now XD *points to siggy and avvy* :P

[oni flygon]

I'm obsessed with FMA...BUT FUNI COMPLETELY BUTCHERED THE OPENING AND MOST OF THE SCRIPT!

Opening/Ending: What the heck is the big deal of dismantling Melissa and randomizing the clips with Ready Steady Go? Melissa was such a great opening and Ready Steady Go was my favorite opening... ><

Script: I don't know what Funimation did but they made Al sound like a wuss. "Not so fast, mister"? What happened to "Ahh! I lost my head again!" ...meh...oh well

Voice acting: Al's voice was too...how should I say this...too...soft. It wasn't like in the original version. Ed's voice doesn't seem to fit him...or is it just because I got used to a deep voice...XD

Logo: .. >< I liked the Japanese logo better...

Meh...ignore me...at least it's being featured in America...what else can I say... XD

LONG LIVE FMA!!!

[Elite Trainer Raven]

You people are going nuts. Remember, Adult Swim SHORTENS the endings for any anime that air the full openings. Since Melissa, UNDO and Rewrite aren't being played for the [adult swim] openings, they had to use Ready Steady Go. By the way, in case you didn't know (and I hate how everyone keeps forgetting this..), Melissa was played as the ENDING of the first episode. Then it became the opening. Scar was ALWAYS in the opening to Melissa considering we find out about him during the time the opening is still being shown. o_O He appears through the first three opening.

Logo doesn't matter. It looks roughly the same, even though they could have done a better job to make it look like the original (considering fansubbers managed to pull the same off with their own versions). But eh, doesn't matter.

This is the first episode. Don't base your judgement on voices on JUST the first episode. Give them time to actually get into their characters. Besides, give Al's VA a chance. He's only a kid starting out in the VAing business. Not everyone starts out professionally.

The script I really don't mind at all. Al's always been somewhat of a 'wuss' in terms of him not being as direct as Ed is. I've posted on Serebii.net's forum a list of changes from the first episode, so I suppose I'll do the same here (and I'll do the same as each episode passes by):

-The explanation of Alchemy in the begining is pretty much the same in both languages. Only difference is that Ed's explaining it in the English version when it was Al who explained it in the Japanese version.

-Small thing, the avatar refered to as Leto is pronounced Leeto in the English version for some reason. And the last man to speak after Al fixes the radio had something quite different to say. Originally he mentioned that there weren't any alchemists in their area, yet in English he offers to give Ed and Al a job if they're looking for work.

-The last man to speak after everyone assumes Al is the Fullmetal Alchemist originally asked if he was really that famous. For some reason, they had him ask if Al would be willing to go to his daughter's birthday party. o_O;

-Sadly, Ed's exaggeration wasn't used in the English version. He wasn't bragging about "CAN A SHORTY DO THIS?!" Original dialouge was this: "Who did you say was small like a grain of rice and doesn't show up in your eyes?!" To which the men he was hurling around were protesting that they didn't say that exactly.

-Ed's talk with Rose was abit different. Originally he explained that Alchemists are basically scientists and had no need for believing in a false thing such as God. He then mentions how it's ironic how Alchemists are the closest things to God. Rose then asked if he was trying to commit blasphemy and mentioned that he was no God and that humans are not things. They avoided the heavy God and blasphemy talk and even had Ed suggest to Rose to pick up an Alchemy book. Not the best thing to have him say considering he knows well enough that human transmutation is the biggest taboo of Alchemy and that she'd attempt trying it even when he then warns her about it later.

-Ed seemed more forceful about getting the Stone in the dub. Originally, when he had the determined glare on his face, he mentioned that they were looking for it. In the dub, he says to Al how it's finally theirs.

-After beating the oversized bird, the chimera leaps at Ed and we hear him scream, yet when the camera pans to him, he's alright and seems to know what he's doing. Such was not the case in the original. The chimera simply leapt at him and all we hear was the sound of it biting. No scream or anything.

-An even more serious dialouge change. As Ed's ripping off his coat, he's explaining the following to Rose: "This is the body of one who enroached upon human transmutation, the territory of God...The Sinner's Body!" Note how his mouth was closed by the time he finally tosses his coat aside. They had Ed asking if that was the body Rose wanted if she did the same in the dub. "Is this what you want?!" ended up being said the moment we see his mouth was entirely closed in the dub.

-After Cornello states that Ed's limbs were taken to the other side, Rose recalls what Ed told her back in front of the shrine. In the dub, Ed repeats himself rather than Rose recalling it as a memory.

-For those wondering, the original version DID have the opening as the ending but only for this episode. Since [adult swim] will be playing Ready Steady Go as the opening for the whole series (there's originally four opening in total), we heard that played instead of the first opening Melissa. At least they kept the whole opening scene from Melissa the same. Remember, this will be ONLY for the [adult swim] run. So when you get the DVDs, the openings will be as they were in the Japanese version.

[oni flygon]

You forgot that in the Japanese Version, Ed calls Cornello a "third-rate." (Reffering that Cornello just uses cheap Alchemy and not learn it himself)

Con man is such a lame word to use... (IMO, that is...) XD

Also, when the Chimera was attacking Ed, Ed said in the Japanese version that "Oh boy, how am I supposed to fight a chimera with my bare hands?" Also, the clap was changed. Now, it sounded more realistic when Ed claps his hands. (Before, it sounded as if he claps with his bare hands even when he wears gloves).

There was also a part where Ed was forcing Cornello to give them the stone. Ed was waving his hands when Cornello mentioned about the military. In the Japanese version, he was actually making fun of the military (or something like that. His voice changed to give them a sarcastic comment, thus the funny hand-wooshing sound)

The man in the raincoat

XD Oh you mean... him? Everyone loves Roy

[Elite Trainer Raven]

You forgot that in the Japanese Version, Ed calls Cornello a "third-rate." (Reffering that Cornello just uses cheap Alchemy and not learn it himself)

Con man is such a lame word to use... (IMO, that is...) XD
Third rate..swindler..it's basically the same meaning. o_O;

Also, when the Chimera was attacking Ed, Ed said in the Japanese version that "Oh boy, how am I supposed to fight a chimera with my bare hands?" Also, the clap was changed. Now, it sounded more realistic when Ed claps his hands. (Before, it sounded as if he claps with his bare hands even when he wears gloves).
I wish everyone would stop assuming that. Check the first episode again in Japanese. The clap was UNTOUCHED. The littlest dialouge I am not touching since it had the same exact meaning. :\

There was also a part where Ed was forcing Cornello to give them the stone. Ed was waving his hands when Cornello mentioned about the military. In the Japanese version, he was actually making fun of the military (or something like that. His voice changed to give them a sarcastic comment, thus the funny hand-wooshing sound)
Checked both versions. He basically said the same thing how he didn't care what the military wanted.

XD Oh you mean... him? Everyone loves Roy
Trying to avoid spoilers for cripe's sake. >_> We don't find out who he is until the third episode. Not everyone watched the Japanese version.

[oni flygon]

I wish everyone would stop assuming that. Check the first episode again in Japanese. The clap was UNTOUCHED. The littlest dialouge I am not touching since it had the same exact meaning. :\

*watches DVD* Oh...I didn't notice that...


Checked both versions. He basically said the same thing how he didn't care what the military wanted.
Yes, but he did change his voice to a very sarcastic tone. I think in the English dub, he just kept on saying in the same tone...


Trying to avoid spoilers for cripe's sake. >_> We don't find out who he is until the third episode. Not everyone watched the Japanese version.

Spoilers? >< How could you when he appears in the third episode...spoilers are spoilers when you give out death dates, and stuff...

[Koroku]

Scar was ALWAYS in the opening to Melissa considering we find out about him during the time the opening is still being shown. o_O He appears through the first three opening.
Oh! Sorry!

Been forever since I've seen it. >_o


(You mind if I use your list for an FMA website that I've been thinking of making?)

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Spoilers? >< How could you when he appears in the third episode...spoilers are spoilers when you give out death dates, and stuff...
False. Those who are starting off with the dub have no idea who that guy is. Revealing info that they didn't know about since it hasn't been revealed in the US yet is still a spoiler, no matter what the event is.

(You mind if I use your list for an FMA website that I've been thinking of making?)
As long as I get credited for the list and get to see another FMA fansite, be my guest. :x

[Koroku]

Thanks. ^_^

And I'll agree with oni on that - it's not much of a spoiler.

http://www.fullmetalalchemist.com/characters.htm

If it's on the official site, I don't consider it much of a spoiler.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Not many people would be smart enough to actually look into them, though. :P They just go ahead and check out the anime without looking at the site to see who's who. Considering the site also has synopsis for the first four episodes, I'd somewhat consider that as a spoiler. But really, why are we arguing about me referring to Roy as an unidentified character? XP

Anyways, I downloaded the first episode in English to have a better comparison (ran both English and Japanese at the same time and listened to the English version while reading the subs for the Japanese version) so I edited a few things from my post (and everywhere else I put the comparisons up x_x). I'll probably be doing this more often so I have a better ability to compare the two. Plus I'll be working on a more detailed version of what I posted (like full sets of dialogue that gets changed and some other things) for my own site, so I'll be sure to point you all in that direction.

[Miyu-chan]

I don't have cable so... boo. ._.
I've seen a few in our school's anime club and it was very cool. =]

[Koroku]

Who's rip did you download? *can't help but be curious*

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Nanashi (the guys formally known as Fork) managed to rip the episode. I lost the link from earlier due to my comp freezing up on me but I managed to get it before that happened. It'll be very useful if they decide to rip the rest of the episodes until I can get ahold of the official DVDs to use.

[Utada]

I seen the first episode and it rocked! I was waiting for this for a whole week. My younger brother downloaded some episodes before it got licensed. Man he was a little dissappointed when it got licensed. That means he couldn't get the rest. But he told me about it, and it sounded interesting. So when I heard it got licensed I was happy. I am going to watch it start to finish. I liked Ed's and Al's voices. ^___^

[Koroku]

Nanashi (the guys formally known as Fork) managed to rip the episode. I lost the link from earlier due to my comp freezing up on me but I managed to get it before that happened. It'll be very useful if they decide to rip the rest of the episodes until I can get ahold of the official DVDs to use.
ChibiGoku is also gonna rip them... so you could use his if you needed to.

(They'll be at s0nicfreak (http://bt.s0nicfreak.com))


I still haven't gotten a chance to watch the beginning. People won't get off the TV long enough. --;

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Thanks for pointing me in that direction. I could use all the sources I can get my hands on. ^_^

I've finally finished designing the site and it's up and running. I'll be sure to update as each episode goes by. It's not a glamorous site, but it'll due. *points at his sig*

And after seeing the dub episode several times, it's slowly starting to burn into my head like the Japanese version did. @_o;

[oni flygon]

IMO, Ed's voice doesn't fit him. I got used to the deep voice that he used to be. Al's voice seems fine but the voice acting is meh...

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Ed's voice requires alot of getting used to. It simply doesn't fit at all when he's a kid. The voice actor simply cannot bring Ed to life like Romi Paku did. Al just needs to get used to doing voice acting. It's his first job and he's got the perfect voice for Al. He just needs to get used to it and use more emotion.

[Koroku]

Thanks for pointing me in that direction. I could use all the sources I can get my hands on. ^_^

I've finally finished designing the site and it's up and running. I'll be sure to update as each episode goes by. It's not a glamorous site, but it'll due. *points at his sig*

And after seeing the dub episode several times, it's slowly starting to burn into my head like the Japanese version did. @_o;
You might want to go for a layout. =p

[Miyu-chan]

Who's rip did you download? *can't help but be curious*
Errr... I don't know, but it looked like something ripped out of Kazza or something... xD;

[Koroku]

Errr... I don't know, but it looked like something ripped out of Kazza or something... xD;
Sorry, I was talking to ETR. ^_^


I was talking about episode rip. =p

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Actually, I can't be bothered to go fancy in detail for the site. XP I could do it, but I can't be bothered to. It's simplistic, loads quickly, and easy on the eyes.

[oni flygon]

Who do you think would translate the FMA manga? Is there a GanGan comics company in the US?

[Elite Trainer Raven]

My guess would be either Viz or TokyoPop that gets a hold of it since they seem to be the two that grab the most popular series' and the more recognizable manga translators around.

[oni flygon]

I would want TokyoPop to translate it... *currently hating Viz for stopping Pokemon Special* but oh well...

The manga has a very nice story line, too. Though it changes some of the characters and the plot completely seperates from the anime, it's still one of the best manga I've ever read. ^^

I also like Barry the Chopper better in the manga than in the anime...XD

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Call me nuts, but I liked Barry the Chopper better in the anime. He was freakin' psychotic. Oh yeah, if the schedule keeps up where it's at, the dub'll reach Barry the Chopper's debut on Christmas Day. I found that a hilarious way to spend Christmas..with a cross-dressing serial killer. >>

[oni flygon]

Good point. A cross dressing serial killer sounds more interesting than a womanizing serial killer..XD

[Koroku]

I doubt they'll show it on Christmas day - it'll probably be a bunch of Christmas-style episodes. o_O

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Possibly..but here's to hoping they do show it on Christmas Day. XD

And a reminder for those who missed it or those who wanna see it again: The first episode airs again tonight (11/11) at 12:30am and then again at 3:30am.

[oni flygon]

I remember the time when we watched the episode which featured Barry the Chopper for the very first time. It was in the anime club and...

David: Hmm...I knew the lady was the serial killer!
Me: Obvious isn't it? But then... *sees Barry take of the wig*
Everyone: EEEEEEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
David: IT'S A DRAG QUEEN!

:sleeping:

[Koroku]

02 dub just showed~

Gluttony sounded British. o_O

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Gluttony sounded horrible. x_X Didn't have the same kid-like tone in his voice and he said words other than "Lust, can I eat him?" Just about through out the whole series, that's about the ONLY thing he should be saying.

Anywho, I posted up my comparison up on my site. This episode was pretty much flawless. Al's voice improved ALOT in this episode and he sounds adorable as a kid. x_o

[Koroku]

Yes, Al's voice was much better. Though I still say a little more force would be nice.

And I'm not sure on this - but in the Japanese version didn't they show Envy transform into Cornello before he went out to speak to the people? For some reason, I remember him being around when Gluttony eats up the real one.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Nope. Envy doesn't show his "true" form up until episode 14.

[Koroku]

Ah... must've been thinking wrong then. =X


Oh, and if you guys didn't know, scanlations for Chapter 41 have been released~

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I think my computer hates you now for revealing that bit of info since now I have more reason to fill it with FMA manga downloads. XD

[Koroku]

>D

Computers hate me.

I'm supposed to be cleaning off my HD, I've burned 10 CDs but mysteriously have less space than before I started. o_O

*should stop downloading* :P



...as for on-topic stuff...

I still haven't read the manga. Is there a place where I can download ZIPs of the scanlated chapters?

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I still need to burn the rest of the series onto DVD so I can clear up space on my comp. x-x;

Toriyama's World has torrents for batches of the first four novels. While Fullmetal-alchemist.com has single volumes available to download. They're upto the eighth novel, I believe.

[Koroku]

Oh! Thanks! ^_^

*starts downloading knowing that it'll take forever to finish* XD


Edit:FMA02 Released (http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=3246)

[oni flygon]

anime-source.com has up to FMA 41 though the scanslations aren't as good as Toriyama's World or Evil Genius... >.>

[クリス]

I'm really enjoying FMA so far! It seems to have everything I like in an anime - comedy, action, suspense. w00t!
*can't wait to see episode 3*

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Trust me. FMA's gonna grow really dark and serious starting in the 20s then it'll lose its comedy factor around the 40s and become a completely serious series. It's all really good though, so its best to enjoy it while it has its comic factor.

[Koroku]

Episode 3...


Mother! ^_^ Been forever since I've seen that ep.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Starting from episode 3, we'll be seeing how Ed and Al came to be what they are now and what they had to endure together. This'll be going on through upto episode 9, then we go back to the after-Lior events in episode 10.

[oni flygon]

Well, these is when the flashback episodes start. XD

[クリス]

Trust me. FMA's gonna grow really dark and serious starting in the 20s then it'll lose its comedy factor around the 40s and become a completely serious series. It's all really good though, so its best to enjoy it while it has its comic factor.
Makes me think of how Trigun played out - hilarious to serious.

[Evil Togepi]

Eee! I can't wait to see the dub for episode 3! It's one of my favoruite episodes that one X3

[oni flygon]

Ah...I just hope Ed's voice actor does a good job with young Ed...just like Ed's japanese seiyuu...

[Elite Trainer Raven]

From what I've heard, Vic's young Ed doesn't sound too promising. :\ I think the reason Romi Paku does such an amazing job is because she's played different roles and has experience with them. She's done the role of a kid and teen (Ichijouji Ken/Dejimon Kaziaa from Digimon is a perfect example).

Al, on the other hand, sounds absolutely perfect as a human child. o_o;

[Evil Togepi]

From what I've heard, Vic's young Ed doesn't sound too promising. I think the reason Romi Paku does such an amazing job is because she's played different roles and has experience with them. She's done the role of a kid and teen (Ichijouji Ken/Dejimon Kaziaa from Digimon is a perfect example).

Al, on the other hand, sounds absolutely perfect as a human child. o_o;

I dunno, I didn't think Ed sounded TOO bad in the bit at the end of the last episode, though it probably will be intresting hearing a 6 or so year old child with a deep-ish voice XD It probably would have been better if they had cast another child actor to do Ed though (*Like how they had child actors for the flashbacks in Fruits Basket to play the characters when they were children*) but never mind, I'm sure Vic tried his best to sound younger ^^;
But yes I agree with your comment on Al's VA, he sounded perfect as little human Al X3 Eeee! The cuteness!
"Brother made it! Isn't it awesome! I can still only do this one, hehe" I pretty much almost keeled over and died of the cuteness coming from that quote X3

[oni flygon]

I give props to Al's VA. Still hoping improvement from Ed's. Though they better not give Roy some cheesy voice acting...same goes for Scar...

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I'm more afraid for Armstrong. Chris Sabat (VA for Vegeta/Piccolo/Yamcha/Kuawabara/every secondary character) is doing the voice of Armstrong. T_T; I can't imagine how that'll go.

I'm also hoping that they don't decide to give the Ishbalites any weird accents or something. @_o; Here's to wishing for the best for the future of FMA considering they're doing good so far.

[Koroku]

FMA03 is out tonight!~

Be sure to watch~!

[Elite Trainer Raven]

What the hell is with Winry's voice? x_x

They also said that Winry's parents were "suprise attacked" which isn't exactly true. They were killed on the spot. They also made it sound like they were soldiers or something.

[Koroku]

**** YOU ROY! You made Winry cry. =(Roy's voice is *______*

[oni flygon]

Surprise attack???!! That's a load of BS!

How can they be surprised attack when Roy killed them personally?

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Exactly my point. The were killed FROM THE FRONT and we see later on that they're lying on the floor face first. o_O

I liked Roy's voice. If his voice actor can give him the same cocky attitude the original had, he's perfect.

[Koroku]

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=3343&hit=1

Apparently, the peeps in FMADub were talking to Travis (Roy's voice) or something...


Vic (Ed's voice) is cool. =) *has talked to him* =)

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Thanks for the weekly episode post, JK. I'll be doing my weekly comparison later today.

Not really looking forward to next week's episode. The Majhal episode's pretty dul after you've seen it so many times. x_x;

[Evil Togepi]

I thought this episode was pretty good ^^ Al had so many cute lines and with his VA they just made them even more extra cute :D
He did a good job screaming at the failed Transmutation part too X3

[Koroku]

Weekly episode post? XD I guess I'll keep at it then. XD


And I liked #3. It felt all warm and fuzzy. =3

[oni flygon]

At first, I thought they translated the music in the end ("Brothers") but then I remembered that it's already in German...XD

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Episode wasn't too bad at all. Only gripe was the amount of changes and errors made through out most of the dialogue. x_X;

Anyways, here's episode three's comparison: Mother (http://myuu.munkki.net/fma/fma03.html)

[Koroku]

Yay for the comparison!

The synopsis, did you write that up yourself, or what?"We used some of the money to find ourselves a teacher." Wrong. Later on, it's revealed that the boys saw that Izumi (their sensei) is an excellent alchemist. They begged and pleaded her to take them on as her students, even though she told them flat out that she was not making anyone her students. She wasn't exactly a teacher to begin with. Methinks this error occured from the writers not having seen the whole series yet.I noticed that too and I'm like "WTF? Since when did they pay her?" XD

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I'm extremely lazy and tend to go way into detail when it comes to writing up synopsises, so I basically just combine whatever the FMA site and [adult swim]'s site say. XD

I think I should start doing the synopsis myself since the fourth one doesn't seem too right since Majhal doesn't have any problems with any ghosts since he passed them off as just stories. >_>;

[Evil Togepi]

Yeah I noticed a lot of those changes too, especially the ones with them saying the letters were FROM Hohenheim and saying they paid for an Alchemy teacher :p

I didn't mind the change of dialouge when Al claimed Ed would just "turn into a jerk" without him. I was too busy squealing how cute that line sounded XD;;

[Koroku]

I'm extremely lazy and tend to go way into detail when it comes to writing up synopsises, so I basically just combine whatever the FMA site and [adult swim]'s site say. XD

I think I should start doing the synopsis myself since the fourth one doesn't seem too right since Majhal doesn't have any problems with any ghosts since he passed them off as just stories. >_>;
Ahhhhh, that makes sense. =)

*needs to write synopsises (O.o) too*

[Koroku]

Sorry to bump~

New episode tonight! ^_^

"A Forger's Love"

[oni flygon]

I think Klose is cute when she dresses as a girl...

=.=

[Airiesca]

Hi all, Im new to PC. Anyways I love FMA , been watching every episode on AdultSwim. I like it mainly because it's not another show that has the normal stuff (like shows with giant robots, all the Gundams, Big-O) I get bored with shows that are predictable after a few episodes. FMA = My fav show (sucks that it only comes on once a week)

[oni flygon]

Well, I've watched it up to Episode 32. I'm still waiting for my cousin to burn the rest of the other episodes that are up to episode 51... O-o

FMA is very good. Especially when its gets very dark soon. =D

[Lily]

...

I only watched up to episode 5 and I'm obsessed. Winry rocks. =D (Darkness....ooh can't wait)

Ed is like, <3. And for some reason, I crack up whenever I see oni's avatar. XP

[Koroku]

Roy is also <3.

Though I prefer Lust. ^_^


I only saw the last few minutes of the episode - <3333 Lust

I almost cried when he stabbed himself. :/

[Mari]

Well, I've watched it up to Episode 32. I'm still waiting for my cousin to burn the rest of the other episodes that are up to episode 51... O-o
Ang swerte mo! XP [You're so lucky!] Thirty-two episodes? I've only watched until Episode 10. I wanna see the rest!!! ;-;

And Lileh, you're are so right! Winry rocks. Al's better though, too sweet and kawaii. =]

[Koroku]

Winry fans will enjoy... what is it? Ending #3? XD

*has seen all 51 episodes* >P

[Mari]

All fifty one, really? No fair JK!

-If only my sister finished downloading episode eleven and the rest...>>; XD

[Koroku]

Yep, I've seen the entire series. >D

*huggles it* I could always send it if you wanted it that badly. XD


And hopefully, the encode will be up tomorrow. o_O

[PichuSecretBase]

I've watched Full Metal Alchemist a few times.. what exactly is the plot?

[oni flygon]

All fifty one, really? No fair JK!

-If only my sister finished downloading episode eleven and the rest...>>; XD

Uy, yung pinsan ko nakuha nya nga yung lahat, eh. Hinihintay ko pa nyang matapos. (My cousin has all episodes. I'm just waiting for him to finish) XD

Yeah, Winry fans will adore Motherland. XD

Episode 4 is next. And episode 4 is... The Battle at the Train. One of my personal favorites because Hughes makes his first appearance. X3

TO PSB: Do I have to write the whole plot again? The last time I did, (explaining to J_A), I had sore fingers. Well, let's say that the plot is really deep and is very complicated.

[Koroku]

Episode 4 aired last night. o_O;;


It's episode 5 next - The Man With The Mechanical Arm

[oni flygon]

Oops...I meant Episode 5...

"Man with a mechanical arm?"

That's a cheesy title...I like "DASH, AUTOMAIL!" better

[Koroku]

Ditto. XD

But the dub name ain't that bad. XD


...where's Elite Trainer Raven? o_o

[Mari]

*huggles it* I could always send it if you wanted it that badly. XD
Well, if you insist. XP

And you guys are right, Dash! Auto-Mail is a better title.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Ditto. XD

But the dub name ain't that bad. XD


...where's Elite Trainer Raven? o_o
So nice to see people were wondering about me. T_T I've had some connection problems, but I'm back now. I'll be doing the comparison for episode four later. I was somewhat pleased with the episode, but disappointed at the same time.

Pros: No name changes, cuts, censors. Voices were great.

Cons: Ed and Al's voice acting was weak in this episode. Especially when they should have been going nuts during the point where they kept falling over eachother and Ed flipping out over fireworks (something he's never seen before yet they never mentioned in the dub). Tons of name mispronounciations. Kuhrin? Claws? x_X; Plus Karin's final scream was pretty weak sounding. What was up with having Ed call Klose a "paper boy" rather than just a regular boy? I'm certainly hoping that they're saying General HaKURO in the next episode and not General HaRUKO like in the synopsises up on [adult swim]'s site.

And yes..Klose does look better as a girl. >_>

[Koroku]

Sucks about your connection. :/

*wonders if ChibiGoku is having the same problem*

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Well, mainly my problem was due to not having an active phoneline. XD; I'm over my dad's place so I have DSL at my disposal. X3

I'll be doing a special comparison. I'll try to grab voice clips from both versions to compare the name pronounciations and sounds to show what I meant earlier.

Edit: Btw, it seems like no one's released a torrent or anything regarding the fourth episode of FMA in English. o_o Anyone mind helping me out for comparison's sake?

[Koroku]

*wonders if ChibiGoku is having the same problem*I think he's the only one that was doing it. :/

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Nanashi (formerly known as Fork) was ripping them, but they're just as late. o_o Can't understand why no one has it yet.

[Koroku]

...! So that's what happened to Fork! XD;;

*remembers the expected "Spork" subbing group*


Hmm, I missed the first half of the episode, so maybe everyone was a little off on the timing. ^^; Maybe they'll all show up Thursday. xD

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Yeah, that's what I'm figuring. I may as well work on the comparison right now based off of what I can remember until I see the episode again later tonight.

Edit: Added comparison for tonight episode. Holy crap it was near perfect translation. :O

[Koroku]

I think ChibiGoku died. =(

And 05 did a pretty good job. I'm beginning to actually enjoy Ed and Al's voices. :/

[elite13kid]

I heard of Full Metal Alchemist, but i never got to watch it...i try and go watch it but something happens ^^;;, so can someone tell me what this show is about?

[Evil Togepi]

Awww, man I wish I could see these last two episodes shown recently. Guess I'll have to be good and wait for the DVDs like I should do XD;; I am really enjoying the dub so far though from what I've seen of it ^^

[oni flygon]

I watched yesterday's episode...

Hmm...Roy is maintaining a pretty good voice acting. Hawkeye's voice seems pretty good. Though Hughes...er...most of the time, when he's in serious mode, it's as if he's reading off from a script... >< Hughe's VA should work on Hughes' seriousness. Though his obsessed side seems pretty fine to me.

[GYM LEADDER A]

I missed yesterday's epsiode what happened.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

No no. Hughes' voice actor (Sony Strait) should work on his goofy side. He gets into his Krillin voice too easily and then sounds completely different when he's serious. x_X; The serious voice is good and you couldn't tell it was Krillin. My only problem with Hughes was they made him out to be joking when he was wondering about his wife. Through out the whole time we see Hughes, he's never said he jokes about his obsessiveness. >_>;

Anywho, as I said, I posted the comparison up for this week's episode. Though ChibiGoku hasn't been around, someone *finally* managed to put up episode 4 after 5 aired: http://www.falkinss.net/FMA/%5BNanashi%5DCN%20Fullmetal%20Alchemist%2004.avi

It's a direct download, so you'll have to use something like DAP to get it.

[oni flygon]

Hmm...I see

Though I think the serious side was a little bit monotonous compared to the original version. The reason I liked Hughes in the first place was that he was pretty dual sided. The obsessive part should be worked up a bit...same for the serious side.

[Evil Togepi]

Thankyou so so much for posting the link to a download of the 4th episode ^^ Hopefully the 5th will pop up soon aswell *Is too much of an obsessed fan to wait for the DVD to be released to see it*

[Elite Trainer Raven]

It's understandable and no problem. :P I can't wait to get the official DVDs myself since all I have for now are tons of DVD-RW discs filled with two episodes each of the entire series. XD;

[Koroku]

Thanks for posting the link~ :D

*downloads*


Though I hope ChibiGoku shows back up. He got them up in record time...

[Elite Trainer Raven]

So did Nanashi. But it's quite odd how both never turned up when episode 4 aired until someone at Nanashi decided to finally release it. >>

[Evil Togepi]

Yeah I can't wait to get the DVDs as well ^^ I just hope they come out over here in England around the same time as they do in the US.

[Koroku]

I'm hoping that by the time the DVDs come out... I'll have the money to buy them. x_X

[Elite Trainer Raven]

lol Hope you have about $30 for the Limited Edition one. The main site says it comes with the DVD and a soundtrack. @_o

[Koroku]

...! Maybe I will save my money! xD

Maybe I'll do DVD rips... that'd be nice... :/

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Yanno..I think that would be taking it abit too far. >_>; Afterall, FUNi did go to all the trouble of giving us the original boxart for the DVDs and including stuff for the Limited Edition ones. They do kinda deserve some money back.

[Koroku]

Eh, DVD Rips can be used for other stuff...

And it's not like it's not done everywhere else...


And some can't afford the DVDs... eh, it's something I'll think about.

[Thomas-san]

Can someone give me a brief description of this show so if I dont think it sounds good I wont waste my time watching it?

Also when, what channel in US, and what days does it come on?

[oni flygon]

You can never waste your time watching FMA.

Cartoon Network, Saturday Night (depends on your location), Adult Swim

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Brief description: Edward and Alphonse Elric have lost their mother to an illness that resulted to her death. The two young brothers try to use the method of Alchemy to try and revive their mother even though it's forbidden among other alchemists to preform any practices of human transmutation. They failed; resulting in a high penalty. Al loses his entire body and Ed loses his left leg. He then binds Al's soul into a suit of armor, sacrificing his right arm. Ed and Al are now searching the world to find the legendary Philosopher's Stone to try and restore their bodies back to normal. Unfortunately, the task is difficult, the stone is thought to be just a legend and there are other people getting in the two brothers' way.

FMA's a huge hit in Japan and is proving to be a hit in the US due to it now being the 2nd highest rated program on [adult swim]'s Saturday lineup. It's totally not a waste.

The show airs on Saturday nights at 12am and 3am on Cartoon Network. Encore presentations air on Thursdays at 12:30am and 3:30am.

[Koroku]

Mmm, just to note, Raven's times are eastern. ;)

[Elite Trainer Raven]

That too. >_>; Forgot to mention that.

[Koroku]

Lol, *pats* We all make mistakes sometimes. ^^;;

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Btw, just so everyone else knows, I won't be around for about a week due to me going home and there not being a phone line there. So I won't be able to get the next episode comparison up on time.

[Koroku]

Lol, late is better than never. ^^;;

[Thomas-san]

Well how much of the show have I missed? What episode will it be on if I watch this thursday?

[Koroku]

Uh... episode 5. It will confuse you though.

[Koroku]

Sorry for the dupe...

Somewhat of a dub of Episode 05 (http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=3705)

The guy is taking DVD rips from Japan and replacing the audio with the english dub. o.O

[Koroku]

o.o; Triple post. >>;

Manga 42 RAW (http://fma.pokevillage.net/manga/FMA_42_Raw.zip)

Uh, enjoy?

[Elite Trainer Raven]

****it FUNimation!

...Why did you make Nina so much more adorable in the English version? ;-;

Happy to report there's absolutely nothing that was changed besides Shou's name being mispronounced.

[oni flygon]

uh oh...if Nina is more adorable...that means...her death is more sadder...

;o;

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Indeed. T___T

I just realized that we'll also be hearing Scar's voice next week.

[Koroku]

I felt so depressed seeing Nina again... T_T

[Evil Togepi]

The guy who adds the dub audio to Japanese raws has put up episode 6 (*Just happened to come across it while searching for FMA dub episodes on there*)

Clicky for Episode 6 (http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=3748)

Well it's better than nothing until the actual DVDs come out, plus I'm dieing to hear Nina in this episode.
I haven't even gotten around to properly watching episode 4 yet XP Darn work eating up my time.

[SBaby]

She's got a really squeaky voice. Yeah, she squeaks... Also, Ed does some weird things... I'll let you see for yourself...

[Koroku]

:< PDU beat me to posting it. XD;;


And ChibiGoku is back, so we should be getting a TV Rip as well.

[Koroku]

...or maybe we won't.

Scanlation of Chapter 42:
http://www.anime-source.com/banzai/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=806&page=1

[oni flygon]

Oooh... I like Hohemheims comment on Ed...XD

XD

[Koroku]

OST2 and Roy Character Song Files!!!!

*____________*

The OST is sooooooooooooooooooo pretty *_____________*

[Vf1aBattaloid690]

SO when is it on during the weekends? Thats about the only time i can watch it.

[Koroku]

Saturday night at 11 PM CST.

[Colette_The_Chosen]

*Claps*
I am hyperly(sp?) waiting for the Cimera's Cry episode this weekend!
.....*Goes back to serching for Pictures of Ed-Chan*

[Evil Togepi]

Roy's song file makes me laugh XD Mainly cos I can't stop picturing them all in really smart outfits singing on a stage with like a Jazz band behind them or something. Track three is very nice ^^ Roy and Riza duet~!

And I'm currently in love with the 2nd OST *________*

[Koroku]

Well, episode 7 has come and gone.

;_;

[Evil Togepi]

Awwww, I wanna see it but there isn't a download yet *pokes S0nicfreak which is not loading up* though I've heard some good comments about it and people's reactions were much similar to mine the first time I saw the episode subbed. That episode was the first one to really shock me and I just sat there staring at the screen for a while, it was the first time I realized how deep and emotional this show could get.

;____;

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Episode comparison has been posted up minutes after the first airing (I keep on the ball with this, don't I?) and I have to say that I was impressed with the dub episode.

Better brace yourselves guys, next emotional episode starts around episode 15. Then the Big Bang of episode 25 will REALLY get to you. Worse than Nina's problem.

Also take note that next week, The Philosopher's Stone will not be airing since [adult swim] will be playing The Animatrix and Read or Die.

[oni flygon]

NIna was so cute... ;o;

Oh...looks like Cross Dressing Serial Killer would not be here for Christmas...

[Koroku]

Wow, you should spoiler tag that oni. o.o;;;

And there aren't any dls out... because stupid s0nicfreak has dropped off the face of the earth.

[oni flygon]

Ooops forgot about that... *edits post*

[Evil Togepi]

Lookie what I found:

http://www.torrentreactor.to/torrents/view_42914

A torrent for episode 7 ^^ It's downloading now, took it's time to start though, plus I'm getting quite slow speeds right now.
'Tis the same guy who puts the Dub Audio over Japanese raws ^^

[Koroku]

Darn, ya beat me. XD

*just found it as well* XP

Must download 1-3 and 7 now... :O

[Evil Togepi]

For some odd reason the tracker refuses to work for me now -_-;; But luckily someone from the fm_alchemist community uploaded it to that "yousendit" place so I'm getting it from there.
I wonder why I'm having such trouble connecting to the tracker O___o;

[Koroku]

It's a different tracker now. v.v;;

And it's such a busy one (lokitorrent iirc) that it's no wonder it goes down constnatly.

[Airiesca]

Just finished downloading FMA episodes 1-40 (Jap + English Subs)
7 Gig downloads take forever on Dsl, lol.

[Koroku]

^_^

Are you enjoying what you've watched so far?

[White Christmas Kitsune]

Meh. My friend introduced it to me. I was expecting..well..let's just say..I'm obsessed with Trigun and they replaced Trigun with FMA..so..I was like "I'll watch it, but I won't like it.."
Then, lo and behold, I actually watched it. I didn't understand a lot, mind you, but I watched it.
I fell in love with edward elric. XD He's so cute! And short! XD I hate it when people call ME short, so I can relate with him..XD His expressions are so..hilarious. XD

[Koroku]

His shortness is cute. ^^;

I <3 his reactions as well... they're always some good humor to offset the darkness.

[White Christmas Kitsune]

I know. He's like..so..serious sometimes..then he's all "........DONT CALL ME SHORT!!!!!" XD He's so hawt too X3

[Kura]

I feel so deprived ;_; i don't have cartoon network and i've never seen FMA, but i want to so badly ;________;

[Koroku]

Then download the dubs/dvd overlays. o_O

[Desgardes]

OMG...this is like the deepest anime ive like ever seen.....

dude, its sad! did any1 see that episode, i think it was called "the chimeras cry" it WAS SO FREAKIN' SAD!

spoiler alert:




















Like that One guy, fuses his like 4 year old daughter and his dog to make the talking chimera, just to keep his house! WTH?

and then like that kids mom dies cuz of a serial killer! and she looked so horrible!

OMG, i think im gonna either cry, or hurl!

[Koroku]

Yes, I did see Episode 7. It was indeed sad. ;_;

[Desgardes]

oh, and im just wondering, how many episodes r there?

[Koroku]

There is a total of 51 episodes.

[Koroku]

New movie trailer is up~ :D

[Bleach and Sunshine]

JKaizer please don't double post it is anginst the rules and I've found the trailer website for who want's to look http://www.shochiku.co.jp/hagaren/top.html

[Koroku]

...I know the flipping rules. I was mod in this forum before, thank you very much.

[The Incarnation Pokemon]

FMA thread, eh? In that case, may I say...
*is listening to Tsuki no Uragawa from the Roy Mustang Sound File* I wuv this song...But why, why, WHY did they have to put those background singers in?! They didn't do that with Edo's songs!!! WAAAAAH!!! I wanna hear Toru Ookawa-sama's voice all by itself!!! *wails* Oh well, still nice, though. And t3h lyrics = total angsty Roy. *luff*

[Bleach and Sunshine]

...I know the flipping rules. I was mod in this forum before, thank you very much.i I am sorry i did not mean to offend you.I hear the movie is in 05

[Koroku]

I haven't had a chance to actually listen to the Roy Character Song Files. >_<

And the movie is in August '05.

[Koroku]

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=430

Movie trailer has been subbed. =D

[Evil Togepi]

Dub of episode 8 can be found here for download:

http://www.torrentreactor.to/torrents/view_45422

But I'm having the same problems connecting to the tracker as before O__o; Sucky...

[Koroku]

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=449

The direct s0nicfreak link. :/

Stupid s0nicfreak being down... <<;

[Evil Togepi]

The internet hates us XD

Thanks for the link to where it is on s0nicfreak. Guess I'll have to keep checking for when (*Or if*) s0nicfreak comes back up XP

[Koroku]

"If" is about it. <_<

*want~~~*

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Ono. Episode 8 comparison is up. :O

Expect a rather large update on my site today, including 44 screens of the movie promo for those who can't download the video. :s

*was impressed with Barry the Chopper's dub voice* :x

[Koroku]

:X

*has screens that I need to upload* x.x

[Evil Togepi]

Just saw episode 8 and it was so awesome X3 I actually loved Ed in this episode and the end made me want to burst out crying as much as the Japanese version did and Barry the Choppers voice is love! <3 (*Though a bit weird to hear Kyou from Fruits Basket's voice coming from a cross dressing serial killer XD*)

The only other thing I have to say is: Whoop dee Flippin' do! XD *dies*

[Koroku]

<3 Barry.

Creepy voice~

Alternate torrent: http://www.lokitorrent.com/download.php?id=92366

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Too bad Ed's dub voice totally sucked in this episode. Vic has absolutely NO IDEA how the original emotions were played out through this episode. --;

Those who heard Barry's voice may recognize him more as the voice of Jimmy Kudo (Shinichi Kudo) of Case Closed (Detective Conan).

[Star Crossed Dreamer]

I just saw this Saturday's episode. It was cool! Though, I think this one is before the one about the fake Philosopher's Stone. The girl was pretty cute^^ I forget her name.

[Evil Togepi]

Too bad Ed's dub voice totally sucked in this episode. Vic has absolutely NO IDEA how the original emotions were played out through this episode. --;

Those who heard Barry's voice may recognize him more as the voice of Jimmy Kudo (Shinichi Kudo) of Case Closed (Detective Conan).

I try not to dwell on the Japanese voices too much, I try and avoid watching the episode in Japanese anytime before I see that episode dubbed so I can enjoy the dub that much more.
I agree Paku Romi's voice is godly comapired to Vic's in terms of emotion but I think Vic does an alright job of it. There's one thing I've always noticed and that's Japanese VA's do a better job getting emotion through than the VA's who do the english dub, so I think all things considering he's doing the best he can, you can't expect him to sound and do things exactly like Paku Romi could, I'm sure that would be quite hard to do ^^;

Like I said that episode, for me, still had me tearing up in the same way the Japanese version did.

I've never seen Case Closed XD Just another one of the animes we don't get in England until they decide to release some kind of DVD which usually takes ages X____x;

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I try not to dwell on the Japanese voices too much, I try and avoid watching the episode in Japanese anytime before I see that episode dubbed so I can enjoy the dub that much more.
Quite impossible for myself since I've seen the entire series in Japanese already. :P There are times where Vic does a decent job as Ed. But this episode was not one of his best moments at all. :\

[Evil Togepi]

I've seen the entire series in Japanese already too XD But for some odd reason the dub voices don't bug me like they do other people. I know someone who dislikes Ed's dub voice completly where as I quite like it XD

[Star Crossed Dreamer]

I have never heard Ed's Jap voice. I have nothing against the dub voice. It's pretty cool in my opinion. He's got one heck of a temper too. lol

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I have never heard Ed's Jap voice. I have nothing against the dub voice. It's pretty cool in my opinion. He's got one heck of a temper too. lol
http://myuu.munkki.net/fma/edward.mp3

Enjoy.

[Koroku]

So how was 9? I missed it. ;_;

[Evil Togepi]

http://bt.s0nicfreak.com/details.php?id=524

W00t! Episode 9 is up on s0nicfreak! (*And that site is working this week too YAY!*)

I was a sad little FMA fan and was up at 8AM looking for it XD But I read it was another good episode dub-wise so I'm looking forward to seeing it :D

[PikaPal]

I just saw FMA for the first time an hour ago. I was suprised: it was awesome! A few of the Animes my friends have told me about sucked, but FMA was very good!

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I hearby declare that your friends suck for saying such blasphemous things! >:O

j/k :P

Greg, you heard what I had to say. I was rather shocked while watching the episode..mainly because I really had NOTHING to report on it. XD For those unaware, check out my shortest comparison EVER made. Hopefully things stay that way. >.>

[Koroku]

Yeah, wanted other's opinions as well. =D

...manga 43 raw is up at my site. Download, or wait for the Ouroboros scanlation to come out.


*pokes FMA09 to finish downloading*

[Desgardes]

anyone know where i can download the ending theme "an unbearable sin"(sp?) to FMA? i really lik the ending theme even if its only like 30 sec. long.