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sandeon
June 5th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Ok, so when I was five or so I loved the show and still love pokemon. But now I'm looking at it and seeing that the show is a complete little kid show! Dose anyone else feel this way?

Oh and also, does anyone else think that Oak's new voice IS gary's old one?

Kirbychu
June 5th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Considering that this little kids show is based off a little kids game, I don't think there's anything to be surprised about.

I'm not sure about the Gary and Prof Oak thing. All I can say is that both of them have awful voices.

§acred†Beo!
June 5th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Completly agree! I loved the show when I was little but now that i'm older it just seems everything I liked about it didn't mature with me and stayed the same ha. But I try to watch an episode here or there when I get a chance to.

Also i'm not a big fan of the new voices for any of the characters.

sandeon
June 5th, 2010, 08:53 PM
Also I think it would be cool if they made a story line for a diffrent trainer, and made it more aimed for teenagers. Let kids have Ash and give us someone else.

§acred†Beo!
June 5th, 2010, 08:54 PM
Ha that would be sweet, they could have based it off of Gold's character or something like that.

The Power of Pika
June 6th, 2010, 12:59 AM
It's a kids show.

Also Jimmy Zoppi does the voice of Professor Oak now. That's why he sounds like gary.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jimmy_Zoppi

He's the original VA of gary since season 1 and now goes under the name billy beach and last I checked ever since the switch to PUSA/TCPI he hasn't done anything with 4kids.

Gary was one of the few characters who didn't have a VA change and I guess doing professor Oak now he may lapse into gary's voice due to being so use to gary's character since he did it for so long.

Anyway yeah I see Pokemon as a kids show personally. Doesn't mean I enjoy it less. It'd be a bit weird for me if I enjoyed it less since I actually want to get into that sector of the industry. Making kids cartoons is what I really want to do in the future.

Jolene
June 6th, 2010, 03:13 AM
The problem is not that Pokemon is a kids show. The problem is that it is not very good.

Vernikova
June 6th, 2010, 05:49 AM
^ So the thing that makes Pokémon a kids show isn't the fact that it's a kids show but that it sucks? If you're going to troll people at least be good at it instead of making people read a bad attempt at being funny.

Anyway, it's a kids show. It's always been targeted at kids just like the games so it's kind of silly to think that it would mature with you. If you're still involved with the franchise today it's because you understand this and don't care that it is.

Masterge77
June 6th, 2010, 06:28 AM
Forget the childishness, the anime sucks entirely, seriously, TOO MENY FILLERS AND NO PLOT AT ALL!!!

Jolene
June 6th, 2010, 06:31 AM
You're pretty bad at judging troll attempts, aren't you Vernikova?

I think it's pretty obvious that sandeon was complaining about the quality of the Pokemon anime, and attributing that to the fact that it is aimed at children. I simply pointed out that the poor quality of the anime has nothing to do with the target demographic - that the anime is bad because it's a bad production.

That's not trolling, Vernikova. And it wasn't intended as a joke either, Vernikova.

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
June 6th, 2010, 06:36 AM
Meh, I still like the anime. Sure, it's childish stupid fun, but there's nothing wrong with indulging in a little childish stupid fun every now and again.

.Fenris
June 6th, 2010, 12:07 PM
You're pretty bad at judging troll attempts, aren't you Vernikova?

I think it's pretty obvious that sandeon was complaining about the quality of the Pokemon anime, and attributing that to the fact that it is aimed at children. I simply pointed out that the poor quality of the anime has nothing to do with the target demographic - that the anime is bad because it's a bad production.

That's not trolling, Vernikova. And it wasn't intended as a joke either, Vernikova.

Ok, so when I was five or so I loved the show and still love pokemon. But now I'm looking at it and seeing that the show is a complete little kid show! Dose anyone else feel this way?

Oh and also, does anyone else think that Oak's new voice IS gary's old one?

The problem is not that Pokemon is a kids show. The problem is that it is not very good.

How in good-sentry-buildin' heaven do you make out sandeon said it was bad?

HugSomebody
June 6th, 2010, 04:29 PM
I absolutely adored the show when I was a little kid (anyone remember getting up real early for Saturday morning cartoons?) It's been quite a while since then, and the changes in Pokemon shock me. I thought Pokemon changed for the worse, but then I saw an old Kanto episode from way back. It wasn't the same as watching it when I was a little kid. I guess that's part of growing up too.

Numbers
June 6th, 2010, 05:27 PM
Even though the OP didn't actually say it was bad, I'm saying it is. Although that's only my opinion and I think it's because I have grown up and the Anime hasn't. But that's ok, it was good while it lasted :D haha

Trap-Eds
June 6th, 2010, 07:54 PM
Well duh. Half of the fandom expects the anime to be some heart-wrenching, blood-spattering, crazy feature...or at least as "good as Kanto". Please. Of course the anime is "kiddish", maybe even more so now than it was-it's for kids!

I don't even know why I'm bothering. People will whine about BADSUCKISHGAYDUMM etc etc etc the Pokemon anime is now for years to come...>.>

I'm sorry, I'm just tired of reading the same thing over and over...I'll retreat back to...wherever...

SinisterEternity
June 7th, 2010, 11:07 AM
All I can say is that I like to see old episodes, as well as new ones. Doesn't mean I'm pleased with it, though. I mean, that's true that it'd be good to see "two Pokemon Series" one with Jimmy/Gold and one with Ash, the Jimmy/Gold one being more for teenagers like us, because I don't see a 30 years old pokemon fan watching again and again the anime with Ash and Pikachu. x]

Just giving my opinion on this, hun ~

Spiron
June 8th, 2010, 03:42 AM
To be honest, I can see reasoning as to why a lot of older fans, who watched the anime as a child, wouldn't be too fond of either re-watching the older series or following the newer ones. However, this thread has been filled with negativity. I just want to shed some light on the subject.

I don't watch the anime religiously, not in the slightest. I've only seen a total of one or two episodes from the fourth generation of the anime. Fair enough, there might not be the most technical storylines within the anime and for the most part it can be repetitive -- but so to are the games. Just because the games are repetitive, doesn't mean I'll stop buying or playing them, because I love Pokemon for what it is.

I'll rewatch the anime for nostalgia reasons, but more importantly, because I love Pokemon and I don't see that ever changing -- so what, I might be a little too old for watching the anime, but I still get enjoyment out of reliving moments from my childhood by watching it. As for the movies, they always have a good storyline behind them, and where as I can't defend the anime series for having good storyline, I can defend the movies. They are what I'd watch the most, because I can enjoy them, even at my age, for the concept and original stories behind each of them.

The point? Really, maybe it is aimed at kids, but isn't the entire Pokemon franchise? Just because it can childish for the most part, I get over it, and enjoy it for what it is. Pokemon. What we all love and why we are all here.

Zeta Patchouli
June 26th, 2010, 11:34 AM
Believe it or not, I like the anime. Even now. Though I have the mental age of an eight year old, I do like it. It's a nice guilty pleasure, really. I can enjoy the childish things because I'm still a kid at heart.

It is kiddish, but so am I, in some weird way. I saw the D/P series up to Roark, and that was pretty good. If I find a place to watch the anime, I'll re-watch it gladly.

Spinor
June 26th, 2010, 12:56 PM
Yes, I watch it. Yes, it's kiddish a bit. I'll tell you when I start caring.

Owl
June 29th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Not exactly a lot of older people watch it too. But, for me I stopped. So, then I guess you can say that.

yossarian
July 4th, 2010, 02:30 AM
Also I think it would be cool if they made a story line for a diffrent trainer, and made it more aimed for teenagers. Let kids have Ash and give us someone else.


Won't work. There simply arn't enough people around our age who still watch or like Pokemon.

Wings Don't Cry
July 4th, 2010, 02:47 AM
Even though the OP didn't actually say it was bad, I'm saying it is. Although that's only my opinion and I think it's because I have grown up and the Anime hasn't. But that's ok, it was good while it lasted :D haha

I think the anime has grown up in a way, watch a D/P episode and watch an Indigo Plateau episode and you can see major differences. However it still didn't grow up as fast as you did.

okjoek
July 29th, 2010, 07:07 PM
I dont like the new voices either =(.

>Feelings<
July 29th, 2010, 11:13 PM
People who thinks that the anime is 'kiddish' needs to define better what they really mean by this statement, and what categorizes it into 'kiddish'.

The anime has always been for a younger age group, and its not going to change. Moreover, it shouldn't.

To be honest, the anime only needs a few improvements, like a revision and a little more detailing of plot and expanding the other characters which are barely touched. Other than that, I think the anime is just good as it is.

The Kanto episodes were great to me just because they were light and dealt with humor more.
The last thing the anime needs is death, violent battling, and pondering the meaning of life.
Even when I was a kid, it was an escape from real life, and it should stay that way.
All that it needs is more detailing with the overlooked parts of the anime.

Koratah
August 1st, 2010, 08:07 PM
A Pokemon Anime-- the prospect was epic. It could have been epic.
But the way it was done was in a simple, childish manner. When I was ages 5-10, I really enjoyed it. But it's just plain crap now-- fillers, no plot and all the episodes are virtually the same. :/ "woah! guys, we need to get to that gym" "yeah let's go" "Oh god random side character with problem! we'll help" -help- "bye! now the gym" -loses against lvl 3 pidgey " aww let's try again" -pikachu pulls through and wins like he should have before because he's lvl 100 by now "good job! byyyee I totally made friends and learned a lesson this episode" ......D: :/

I'd like to see a pokemon anime with a new trainer, a less cartoony style--still anime/cartoon, of course, but not as wide-eyed and square-headedness.
A protagonist that we see age and develop would be nice.
A villian that's threatening, and a plot that really follows the games-- I want to see an epic !gameverse Gold vs. Red. I'm not a fan of the manga characters, I like their original game representations.

Yeah. I could say more but I'd just be rambling.. :/

ptrhenry52
August 4th, 2010, 01:57 AM
There are some good animes in Arabic but they are censored in some of their scenes.People who thinks that the anime is 'kiddish' needs to define better what they really mean by this statement, and what categorizes it into 'kiddish'.I watch it.It's kiddish a bit.

WalrusGuy
August 7th, 2010, 03:59 AM
The last thing the anime needs is death, violent battling, and pondering the meaning of life.You must have really hated Mewtwo Strikes Back.

Vernikova
August 7th, 2010, 04:15 AM
^ It's not like the first movie had a lot of death or violent battling. It was really tame outside of the opening scene.

pokemonloverXD
August 7th, 2010, 10:46 PM
Yeah this show is for kids of course it's childish but I love it so who cares?