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Chansey Inc.
November 10th, 2004, 10:44 PM
No president is complete without it....I wanted to post in the ANDinm board but i can't....I say we have a congress with 8 seats....And you need a political party....Sorry if this in the wrong fourm....

It was funny when I typed it.
November 10th, 2004, 10:46 PM
w00t i think thats y there are more than 1 mod

*Chikorita*
November 10th, 2004, 10:47 PM
I think this is a bad idea, seeing as the PC president and Vice President don't really do anything special. (Sorry if you guys find this offensive XD) And I don't see how a whole congress could get some colored names. It just seems like a scam to get them if you ask me. =/

Chansey Inc.
November 10th, 2004, 10:48 PM
it is not a mod position....Mods should be destroied...

Chansey Inc.
November 10th, 2004, 10:49 PM
What is the point of a colored name..to me that is useless...No Colored name...

*Chikorita*
November 10th, 2004, 10:50 PM
Nice double posting there. -____-

Ryoutarou
November 10th, 2004, 10:50 PM
Mods should be what now? They help out members...and the congress thing is to much, we've already got the president and vice and that is enough.

Flygon trainer
November 10th, 2004, 10:51 PM
then why do we need congress? the president position is simply out of popularity.

Chansey Inc.
November 10th, 2004, 10:53 PM
mods do help people out...but the point behind it is that mods can have too much power at times...the congreses objective is to act in need of the presedent...what if neither of them decided to give up their position..we need a bavkup...

Ryoutarou
November 10th, 2004, 10:54 PM
mods do help people out...but the point behind it is that mods can have too much power at times...the congreses objective is to act in need of the presedent...what if neither of them decided to give up their position..we need a bavkup...
...that is IF the president did anything. Brittany's titles dosn't give her any powers...and the mods were picked by the admin's so they know what they are doing. Mods all do a good job, it is fine as it stands.

It was funny when I typed it.
November 10th, 2004, 10:59 PM
blues right and theres no need for a congress

PichuSecretBase
November 10th, 2004, 10:59 PM
We do not have a lot of power. A Moderator is mini-admins, or the Forums cleanup crew. President dosent do anything but get a colored name.

And mod colored names are for members to easily identify us.

Oh yes, don't post twice and a row.

To be honest the congress thing is a bad idea. What good is it but more user groups. We have about *counts*12 maybe more.

Arcanine
November 10th, 2004, 11:58 PM
The congress idea is bad. We don't need a group of people to say "Yes or no" when we have to lock a thread or something. It's not needed, and the President was not ment to be a staff member. A colored user name and a larger PM box is good.

AdamHays
November 10th, 2004, 11:58 PM
I don't think this is a bad idea.we could have like a senator and stuff.But then again,it would fill up the forums leaders like crazy,and alot copuld happen.*Changed mind,wrote before i thought about it XD*

Ryoutarou
November 11th, 2004, 12:03 AM
[coilor=slategray]I don't think this is a bad idea.we could have like a senator and stuff.[/color]

That would be kinda pointles...we don't need another usergroup, plus the president thing was just as a one shoot for the elections held this year in the US, so we don't need anymore.

DragonTrainer
November 11th, 2004, 01:31 AM
No, they're right, too much power to the mods, were becoming tyrants, think of the children!

Lightning
November 11th, 2004, 01:38 AM
Indeed. Think of the children. *gets someone to demod DT* :<

We honestly don't need any more usergroups. -_- If we had a congress, it would just be a bunch of people holding an incredibly pointless position -- nothing could be done. You have to understand the President and Vice President don't actually DO anything. (Well, FG does, but she doubles as a mod.)

And it's not really a good idea to go around saying the mods should be destroyed... you'll probably irritate them. <_< *cough*

Haruki Hanai
November 11th, 2004, 01:48 AM
We do not need members who take the control of threads. Moderators are given their powers for tasks on threads, and the it's not the President's job to control it, not a congress (if made).

Brittany
November 11th, 2004, 01:57 AM
*gets ready to veto* XD

We already have a popularity usergroup... now you want a sub-popularity usergroup?!

Thats doing nothing for the people that do nothing!
Well, I say no, because that just pushes the idea even past my own limit, but I guess we're all entitled to what we want...

*rides off into the sunset*
(btw, I think Consul is a better idea... then people won't get confused about this kinda thing)

Eliana
November 11th, 2004, 02:00 AM
Chansey, I totally disagree. We dont need any more stuff like that....I think a pres and vice pres is okay for now ^^

Koroku
November 11th, 2004, 02:08 AM
Congress is simply too much.

DragonTrainer
November 11th, 2004, 02:19 AM
You can't demod me! I'm to storng! I have.... pwers *shifty eyes*

Dude, we totally need a shifty eyes smilie

Arekkusu Rizu
November 11th, 2004, 02:21 AM
No president is complete without it....I wanted to post in the ANDinm board but i can't....I say we have a congress with 8 seats....And you need a political party....Sorry if this in the wrong fourm....
Thats a bad idea. There is no need for a congress, sicne PC President and VP don't have that many powers.
it is not a mod position....Mods should be destroied...
Mods should be what? Watch it there... No need to hate a moderator
mods do help people out...but the point behind it is that mods can have too much power at times...the congreses objective is to act in need of the presedent...what if neither of them decided to give up their position..we need a bavkup...
First, Mods don't have too much power as you state.
Secondly, the President and VP aren’t that powerful throughout the forum. Except the VP which in this case is FG, who is a mod. And there is really no need for this congress as you state. We had elections only for Pres and VP, not congress. If we did we would have had a vote aswell.

tmbjr
November 11th, 2004, 03:30 AM
first off, I'd like to state that I was against the idea of the president/VP, so I will definitely not go for any other crap dealing with real politics...

xCloudx
November 11th, 2004, 04:18 AM
Somebodys a bit a power-hungrey,arn't we?

There's no need for Congress. There's no point to it all. Just like the others said,it would be a waste of a space to the forum. Also,you won't be able to post in he Admin board,you need to be an admin. And with that you have to be trustworthy and helpful. :cheeky:

Mr.Lax
November 11th, 2004, 04:38 AM
Hmmmmmm na I don't think it is the best idea but......no I ,no,no,no,no pres. and vice is enough.

Spectrum
November 11th, 2004, 04:44 AM
No president is complete without it....I wanted to post in the ANDinm board but i can't....I say we have a congress with 8 seats....And you need a political party....Sorry if this in the wrong fourm....
I'm pretty sure the President and Vice Pres. positions are enough for now.

it is not a mod position....Mods should be destroied...
Oh sure, and while you're at it, destroy all the S-Mods, Praetors, and Admins too. I wouldn't recommend going after Abby, or Sawah will kill you. o.O;;

What is the point of a colored name..to me that is useless...No Colored name...
You're just jealous because you don't have one, perhaps?

mods do help people out...but the point behind it is that mods can have too much power at times...the congreses objective is to act in need of the presedent...what if neither of them decided to give up their position..we need a bavkup...
If you feel a Mod is abusing his or her privileges, you report them, not whine to other community members. Whining won't get you anywhere. But anyways, I doubt the higher authorities would listen, because Mods have their powers for a reason.

No, they're right, too much power to the mods, were becoming tyrants, think of the children!
Exactly what I was thinking. xD

Somebodys a bit a power-hungrey,arn't we?
...And who would that be?

In short, I rule, and this thread should be lockx0rd. *ahem* @_@;

Mr.Lax
November 11th, 2004, 04:48 AM
*cries* That was the best speach I have hered in my life..... and your right it needs to be locked...yes defenently

xCloudx
November 11th, 2004, 04:58 AM
...And who would that be?


*points* Chansey Inc.

Brittany
November 11th, 2004, 05:06 AM
I simply just don't get the point. I'm a Admin MINUS ALL POWERS(just incase you don't know what that means, I'm less powerful than a mod). It's just a colored name! XD


President was a position designed to give a person the position of a wanna-be mod. I don't think positions for wanna-be members should be allowed...
Of course, we already have a usergroup for that *points to banned members* XD

ryan
November 11th, 2004, 05:18 AM
there are plenty of wannabes here already. the kind that whine about rules being broken when they really should be minding their own business. (like those of us that freak out when there's a double post) i don't think there needs to be any more authority here. if anybody would have been a congressman/woman they already probably rat out offenders to mods.

Brittany
November 11th, 2004, 05:32 AM
there are plenty of wannabes here already. the kind that whine about rules being broken when they really should be minding their own business. (like those of us that freak out when there's a double post) i don't think there needs to be any more authority here. if anybody would have been a congressman/woman they already probably rat out offenders to mods.
Well thats kinda obvious... and I totally agree.
We have more of a problem with whiners, than we do about the problems they whine about(in my opinion)

For example, double posts are not allowed because we should try to reduce the amount of unneeded posts, and remember to use the edit button. But when 20 people spend their posts whining about a double post, that creates: 19 unneeded posts, 19 spammy messages, and 19 messages prone to getting off-topic.

It just makes me wonder...

PichuSecretBase
November 11th, 2004, 11:57 AM
Mods need to be destroid?! @_@ Excuse me but without us PC would be full of porno spammers and pokemon bashers that have no life! Think before you speek!

Ryoutarou
November 11th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Well thats kinda obvious... and I totally agree.
We have more of a problem with whiners, than we do about the problems they whine about(in my opinion)

For example, double posts are not allowed because we should try to reduce the amount of unneeded posts, and remember to use the edit button. But when 20 people spend their posts whining about a double post, that creates: 19 unneeded posts, 19 spammy messages, and 19 messages prone to getting off-topic.

It just makes me wonder...
Hey, Brittany if I remember right you were doing the exact same thing less then 2 days ago -_-.

Spectrum
November 11th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Hey, Brittany if I remember right you were doing the exact same thing less then 2 days ago -_-.
She was? *pokes* Naughty President. =P

Pachy
November 11th, 2004, 02:33 PM
well, if the mods and admins do something that is unpopular the pepole of PC can PM the congress and we could get decisions reversed they dont have to have powers like mods maybe a different color name thats all but the colors of all congress members would be the same.

Spectrum
November 11th, 2004, 03:03 PM
well, if the mods and admins do something that is unpopular the pepole of PC can PM the congress and we could get decisions reversed they dont have to have powers like mods maybe a different color name thats all but the colors of all congress members would be the same.
Have you been ignoring us this whole time? That would clog up the Forum Leaders page.

PichuSecretBase
November 11th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Forum Leaders are people htat actually do something for PC. Admins, S-Mods, Mods, Practeur, Abby, and President could be given duties if we evre think of anything *evil laugh* but mods are pretty much congress and Steve, Kwes, Casey, and Dubs is our Presidents.

Spectrum
November 11th, 2004, 04:31 PM
Uh... nicely put? Anyways, if we had all those Congress, they'd show up on the Forum Leaders page and have some assumed powers or something. xD;;

BladeForever
November 11th, 2004, 04:44 PM
You know what else is not needed? Repeatly having everyone say the same thing.. (just putting more text/thought into a post) And this thread. o.O Anyone agree? *feels alone* Though it actually is going around in circles.. and it looks like some people just dont get it no matter how much you repeat the matter.. so how many more times must we have members say this is a bad idea? (or maybe I'm just reuining the fun? ^_^)

~Blade~

Sawyer
November 11th, 2004, 04:48 PM
honestly... that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard (the thing about destroying mods). without mods, this place would be a carnival for kids without lives spamming porn and crap all over, people would be bashing pokemon and everything else... and why would you want the mods destroyed anyways? is it because you're jealous of THEIR powers? (not like you could ever make a responsible mod XD) but in general, a congress is a STUPID idea.

Brittany
November 11th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Hey, Brittany if I remember right you were doing the exact same thing less then 2 days ago -_-.
I don't remember that XDwell, if the mods and admins do something that is unpopular the pepole of PC can PM the congress and we could get decisions reversed they dont have to have powers like mods maybe a different color name thats all but the colors of all congress members would be the same.
What?!
You should never try to challenge the power of Admins and Sub-Admins. They will never give you enough power to reverse their decisions. Thats why there are only a few of these elites, because they are the most knowlagable, trustworthy members, that you should never expect to make a decision that might hurt PC. And if that day ever comes when they actually do something that hurts PC, deal with it. The only people that can change what they did, or take the action needed is another Admin.

Now if it's a small decision, like a forum being moved to somewhere you don't think it should be, or a post that you didn't like, just PM them directly(no need for a congress XD). I'm sure they will be happy to tell you why they took that action.

Mods on the other-hand... Just PM Kairi or something, she'll make any changes needed that she sees fit(if any).You know what else is not needed? Repeatly having everyone say the same thing.. (just putting more text/thought into a post) And this thread. o.O Anyone agree? *feels alone* Though it actually is going around in circles.. and it looks like some people just dont get it no matter how much you repeat the matter.. so how many more times must we have members say this is a bad idea? (or maybe I'm just reuining the fun? ^_^)

~Blade~
Repeating yourself is all that you can do until they get it through their head XD

Or until the thread gets closed.... *thinks it should have been closed a while ago*

Oh well...

Arcanine
November 11th, 2004, 06:52 PM
well, if the mods and admins do something that is unpopular the pepole of PC can PM the congress and we could get decisions reversed they dont have to have powers like mods maybe a different color name thats all but the colors of all congress members would be the same.
Even with a congress what gives them the right to stop Admins from doing something? If there was one and they pulled a stunt like that then it's "bye, bye congress".



Like I said, PC don't need a bunch of members to tell the staff how to do their job. If something needs to be done we don't need to ask them before doing it. PC is not a Government, it's a forum.
And I would not like to ask some one if this could be done. And a matter of fact if PC had a congress thing then I would not ask them about anything (I was given this spot to do things around PC, not to run off to ask a group of people is this the right thing to do).

Jess
November 11th, 2004, 06:53 PM
God people, Quit begging for power.
We all know your fantasies of becoming a mod -_-
People lay off Brittany..It`s not her fault she became the PC President, It`s YOUR FAULT :P
So if your not happy with your current President that`s too bad. (And I doubt you can impeach her..XD)
Anyways, Power Hungry people want Congress, I say Congress is a waste of time and Space.It will have no effect on how the forums run -_-
President and Vice President are enough for NOW!

Mizugorou
November 11th, 2004, 07:03 PM
I don't see much of a point in a congress...President and Vice President is is just for fun, and they don't deal with actual polotics thingys, so there is really no point in a congress...

Pachy
November 11th, 2004, 07:04 PM
Uh... nicely put? Anyways, if we had all those Congress, they'd show up on the Forum Leaders page and have some assumed powers or something. xD;; like i said before the would have NO POWERthey would just be there to back whomever is right. if the mods do something unpopular,they feel it is right but others may not. so to keep people from leaving we should have a congress. they would have the final word on any conflicts that way if a mod and another mod get into a fight over something such as locking a thread we would have a judge that is not biased,that way the people of PC can have piece of mind,so that they dont have to get mad and leave,look,im just looking out for the future of this forum you guys should really listen to the common member before dismissing an idea!
I don't see much of a point in a congress...President and Vice President is is just for fun, and they don't deal with actual polotics thingys, so there is really no point in a congress...that is why we need a congress,so that the President and the VP dont have to get caught up in all of that!
God people, Quit begging for power.
We all know your fantasies of becoming a mod -_-
People lay off Brittany..It`s not her fault she became the PC President, It`s YOUR FAULT :P
So if your not happy with your current President that`s too bad. (And I doubt you can impeach her..XD)
Anyways, Power Hungry people want Congress, I say Congress is a waste of time and Space.It will have no effect on how the forums run -_-
President and Vice President are enough for NOW!It is not a waste of time and it is not a power congress members do not have to have any mod powers!

Sawyer
November 11th, 2004, 07:13 PM
well... i think this thread needs to be closed... and it's not like Chansey Inc. is seeing any of this. and also, what i forgot to say before was, congress is overrated, if a president wants, he can get rid of the congress, so it's basically not needed.

xCloudx
November 11th, 2004, 07:38 PM
God people, Quit begging for power.
We all know your fantasies of becoming a mod -_-
People lay off Brittany..It`s not her fault she became the PC President, It`s YOUR FAULT :P
So if your not happy with your current President that`s too bad. (And I doubt you can impeach her..XD)
Anyways, Power Hungry people want Congress, I say Congress is a waste of time and Space.It will have no effect on how the forums run -_-
President and Vice President are enough for NOW!

Exactly my point. Poeple don't understand the point of earning the mod positsion. Chahsey is jealous,she wanted to be admin and do whatever she wanted. Well,I'm sorry for you,but that won't happen!

PichuSecretBase
November 11th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Congress is a pointless waste of space. Period. This needs to be locked because no staff memeber or even the president have gone for it. The End. Case Closed. Good Bye.

Sawyer
November 11th, 2004, 07:50 PM
yeah, xCloudx is totally right, i don't think there's ever gonna be another admin, cause all the admins helped make the site and were here forever right? and i think they all (irl) personally know each other (could be wrong)

Arcanine
November 11th, 2004, 07:50 PM
they would have the final word on any conflicts that way if a mod and another mod get into a fight over something such as locking a thread we would have a judge that is not biased,If two Mods are fighting over locking a thread or not then that is why an S-Mod or higher goes there and fixes that. If the Senior Staff Member sees that the thread should be locked then it will be locked and that's the end of that. And if it is seen that it should stay open then it's going to stay open. It's not biased or anything, that Senior Staff Member will have the last say so on that matter if two Mods are fighting over a thread.

PichuSecretBase
November 11th, 2004, 07:51 PM
Casey and Zapchu are new >.> And I dont think any of them know eachother irl.

Arcanine
November 11th, 2004, 07:59 PM
i don't think there's ever gonna be another admin, cause all the admins helped make the site and were here forever right? and i think they all (irl) personally know each other (could be wrong)Root Admins (like Kwesi, Steve, Zap and V-Road) are for people who have a large Pokemon site join PC and make their forum PC. Like Brandon said I don't think any of them know each other.
Now Admins like me, Abby and Jake are ones just without a site joining PC.

So yea PC can get more Admins.

Sawyer
November 12th, 2004, 06:02 AM
i can't believe this STILL hasn't been closed XD someone really needs to close this.

*Chikorita*
November 12th, 2004, 03:18 PM
i can't believe this STILL hasn't been closed XD someone really needs to close this.


I agree. XD The thread about a jury got closed, so why not this? The thread seems to be going the one direction of "No" so why doesn't someone with the power close this?

Arcanine
November 12th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Yea since PC is not getting a congress of any kind I'll lock it now.
*Closed*