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Clone25
June 11th, 2010, 04:34 PM
I my opinion, Pokemon the first movie,2000 and the 3rd one were good. The other ones just started getting more childish and I though pushing it a little to far. Does anyone agree with me?

MetryoV
June 11th, 2010, 04:47 PM
the first two was the best imo

I could care less for the others

rickym
June 11th, 2010, 05:25 PM
I agree 100%! They do seem to getting really childish..

i loved the firts one an 2000 and the third one also, o ya an mewtwo returns...

Spinor
June 12th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Keep in mind Movies 4-6 were Disney influenced due to being owned by Miramax ;_;. That influenced the voice acting and censorships, and I think are significantly different from the original Japanese movies.

They start to pick back up after the Lucario movie. But that is just my insignificant opinion.

Vernikova
June 12th, 2010, 02:35 PM
Keep in mind Movies 4-6 were Disney influenced due to being owned by Miramax ;_;. That influenced the voice acting and censorships, and I think are significantly different from the original Japanese movies.

Miramax just distributed the movies though.

Anyway, the first couple of movies are alright. They weren't mind-blowingly amazing or anything like that. I personally think that the Advanced Generation movies were better and that the Diamond and Pearl movies are a little bit better than the Original movies too since maturity isn't the same as quality.

Eurydice
June 12th, 2010, 03:10 PM
i agree the first two are the best movies. though the darkrai and giratina movie are pretty good. the arceus one is terrible. i hate the voice they chose for arceus

The Power of Pika
June 13th, 2010, 03:58 AM
I must be the only one in the fandom who actually loved Arceus voice.=/

Personally for me I don't think the movies are the only good movies.

I like just about all of them. However movie 1 seems to be my least liked. While I thought it was the best ever as a kid, the dub movie 1 at least for me hasn't aged too well.^-^;;;;;;
Though I do enjoy it from time to time. Just not a favourite anymore.

Though I really like movies 2 right through to 12 aswell.
My most favourite is 11.
I'd even say movie 6, 8, 9, 12 compete for second place for me since I honestly can't decide which I like better out of those.
Movie 2, 3, 7 and 10 for third place.
Then movie 4 and 5 for 4th place.

It's all opinion of course. These are just my likes.=)

Samike360
June 13th, 2010, 05:49 AM
The movie centering around Lucario was really good in my opinion, but besides that I agree that the first ones were better

Lelouch vi Britannia
June 13th, 2010, 07:24 AM
I agree, but I liked the Lucario movie. The recent ones have all put me to sleep. I can never watch the entire thing

Felly
June 13th, 2010, 09:33 AM
I'd have to say that the first ones have been better than the rest. My all time favorite is the 3rd one. The more recent ones have been kinda dull in my opinion.

GlalieX
June 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
They were good, but I also enjoyed the advanced generation ones, and the newest one. Lucario and the Mystery of Mew is my favorite.

amberrelf
June 13th, 2010, 06:12 PM
I love the first movie, and it will always have a special place in my heart... but after watching the Nostalgia Critic's review of it... XDDD Well let's just say he makes some very good points. Still, great film.

Though I partially disagree with this thread; the Jirachi movie, and the Deoxys movie are friggin kickass.

The NEW new ones? Not my cup a' tea. =P

Izanagi
June 13th, 2010, 06:14 PM
I believe all of the films are mediocre, but the early ones were considerably less mediocre, yes.

Vulpes bicaudata
June 20th, 2010, 02:58 PM
The first three movies were the only ones I saw on theaters (remember when they showed them in theaters), and the only other one I've seen is the Jirachi one. I though that the Jirachi one wasn't nearly as good as the others–every time that Jirachi opened its mouth I wanted to say "Shut up about the stupid star already!" Whereas the first three were pretty good–I remember thinking that the third one was really deep, for what it was.

Tiax
June 20th, 2010, 03:54 PM
The other ones just started getting more childish

What do you expect for a children's T.V. series? We're talking about 4Kids, for crying out loud... I practically liked all of the movies, but nothing's better than the original movies. The first three were really good.

Ape
June 20th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Even now i will watch the First movie for nostalgia.

And Lugia is just too cool.

ltsang
June 21st, 2010, 05:03 AM
The only one I limed was Mewtwo strikes.

Vernikova
June 21st, 2010, 09:36 AM
What do you expect for a children's T.V. series? We're talking about 4Kids, for crying out loud... I practically liked all of the movies, but nothing's better than the original movies. The first three were really good.

What does 4Kids have to do with the movies maturity?

Jorah
June 21st, 2010, 10:58 AM
Meh, I didn't like many of the movies. I only like the 3rd, 5th and 8th. The 6th was alright. I can't watch any of the others because they're too boring >_>

RedBattler
June 21st, 2010, 03:00 PM
I think that the nostalgia factor kicks in with the first few movies, but I still believe they are above average compared to the rest. Heroes and Lucario and Mystery of Mew were also good. The latter actually won some award if my memory is correct!

Devil's Guitarist
June 21st, 2010, 03:58 PM
TOTALLY!!! I never watch the new ones but I miss the first three! (pokemon 2000 intro song is the best!and i almost cry with lugia)

RedBattler
June 21st, 2010, 05:34 PM
TOTALLY!!! I never watch the new ones but I miss the first three! (pokemon 2000 intro song is the best!and i almost cry with lugia)

Agreed!! Pokemon 2000 had some really good songs (Lugia's song!). All of the Pokemon movies in general have had reasonably good musical scores.

Tater Tot
June 21st, 2010, 06:44 PM
tbh the only one I like is the first one. Also that one with Lucario was pretty good. :D

Tiax
June 21st, 2010, 07:44 PM
What does 4Kids have to do with the movies maturity?

'Cause 4Kids is just as it's name suggests for kids. Of course it's gonna be childish 'cause it's a kid's show.

Vernikova
June 22nd, 2010, 09:55 AM
'Cause 4Kids is just as it's name suggests for kids. Of course it's gonna be childish 'cause it's a kid's show.

Just because something is childish doesn't mean it's not mature.

xPsychosocial
June 22nd, 2010, 12:15 PM
I think the movies got a little worse each time. The first one is my favourite out of the ones I've seen. I gave the others a chance but it wasn't the same for me. =\

Silver25
June 22nd, 2010, 01:27 PM
Pokémon: The First Movie - I still remember the day I saw it (convinced my dad to take me during a family gathering). Definitely like it.

Pokémon: The Movie 2000 - On par if not a little better in some aspects than the 1st.

Pokémon 3: The Movie - Had the potential to be amazing, but then it started getting weird with the whole battle scenes with Misty and Brock. But then again Charizard holding it's own against "Entei" was pretty awesome.

Pokémon 4Ever - Again, this had a lot of potential in my mind but I just thought it wasn't that great. Decent, but not great.

Pokémon Heroes - I actually like this one not because of the plot but this was where the filmmakers started to get real world scenery inspiration. The Venice-like city was pretty sweet but the plot could have been way better.

Pokémon: Jirachi Wish Maker - Hated it. Didn't contribute anything to the series. Nothing more to say about it.

Pokémon: Destiny Deoxys - Was ok, but the whole futuristic city was somewhat cliche.

Pokémon: Lucario and the Mystery of Mew - I really liked it because not only did it tie in with the first movie and explain a lot, the plot was great too. And Lucario looks cool.

Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea - I didn't even finish it.

Pokémon: The Rise of Darkrai, Giratina and the Sky Warrior, and Arceus and the Jewel of Life - I liked the idea of the underlying plot between all three and the first two were good (Giratina and the Sky Warrior being my favorite) but the last one ruined it for me. Arceus' voice, the plot, everything could have been 1000x better. I do hope they do the plot thing again with the next set of movies (maybe not with the upcoming Zoroark one but the ones after that) but learn from their mistakes. I am a sucker for exceptional locations and setting in movies so all three were great in that aspect (especially Giratina and the Sky Warrior).

So there are all of my thoughts...

RedBattler
June 22nd, 2010, 02:26 PM
But then again Charizard holding it's own against "Entei" was pretty awesome.

That was one of the most epic battle scenes of all time!

cystar
June 22nd, 2010, 06:54 PM
i liked the one with darkcry in it i cant thing of the name right now

Vernikova
June 23rd, 2010, 11:47 AM
^ Rise of Darkrai.

I really used to like that movie as well but then I watched it too many times. Now I can't stand watching it since it seems so fresh in my head everytime. Though I do think that the Oracion was a better song then whatever the Movie 2 song was.

Toshiro.
June 23rd, 2010, 03:36 PM
I agree, the earlier movies were better than the movies now in my opinion.

I loved the first 4, (up to the Celebi movie), then they began losing appeal to me. But, I also liked The Rise of Darkrai, that was a pretty good one.

Sephirothxx
June 24th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Everything about pokemon was good until Sinnoh Gen games came out and Pokemon in America got handed to 4kids and they started making episodes. Oh, and it never says in the show how old he is. Is he still 10? That would be nice. he made a cool 10 year old.

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Pokémon: The Rise of Darkrai, Giratina and the Sky Warrior, and Arceus and the Jewel of Life - I liked the idea of the underlying plot between all three and the first two were good (Giratina and the Sky Warrior being my favorite) but the last one ruined it for me. Arceus' voice, the plot, everything could have been 1000x better. I do hope they do the plot thing again with the next set of movies (maybe not with the upcoming Zoroark one but the ones after that) but learn from their mistakes. I am a sucker for exceptional locations and setting in movies so all three were great in that aspect (especially Giratina and the Sky Warrior).

So there are all of my thoughts...
Yep Rise of Darkrai and Giratina and the Sky Warrior arent too bad but I do not like that Arceus movie very much. He's not even that cool. I hated his voice the most.

oknevets
June 24th, 2010, 11:55 PM
The first pokemon movie is still the best for me. Heck, i think the first 151 pokemons are still the best pokemons around. The first few seasons are my favorite seasons. I could care less for the following seasons were new pokemons were introduced. I found it quite disappointing after the first few showed up. Sometimes I would suddenly want to watch the first movie and first season, but i never had the urge to re-watch the seasons and movies of later pokemons, they just lost appeal

Vernikova
June 25th, 2010, 10:25 AM
Everything about pokemon was good until Sinnoh Gen games came out and Pokemon in America got handed to 4kids and they started making episodes. Oh, and it never says in the show how old he is. Is he still 10? That would be nice. he made a cool 10 year old.

4Kids never made an episode. The Pokémon International Company (When they werre Pokémon USA) helped produce an episode but I don't believe that 4Kids ever made one.

Waddle_Dee
June 26th, 2010, 09:50 PM
It seems as if the movies are getting worse every time a new one comes out. I still like watching them but the first 1 and 2 were definately the best

shot571
June 27th, 2010, 07:13 AM
I actually like all of them. But the two with mewtwo are the best. IF they remade it they might make the battle as epic as they do in the new movies however. But yeah the older movies are better imo.

dannichols
June 29th, 2010, 09:56 AM
To me, most of the time, yes. Especially the first one.

Trope
June 29th, 2010, 11:12 AM
The Mewtwo and Lugia movies are the best, though I also like the Lucario ones. The others were nice to watch, but that's where it ended.

Owl
June 29th, 2010, 12:50 PM
Yea, I agree. The Kanto & Johto ones were the best. The rest were okay or just plain bad.