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Flygon trainer
November 16th, 2004, 06:24 PM
From now on, any RPs that I, or any other moderator find that have all poor RPers will be CLOSED. I kid you not. The typing of a poor RPer looks something like this:

ya, so wat u want 2 do 4 2day? *walks away*

If I see a thread full of people who type like that, it will be closed immediatly. However, I will not close if such an RP has at least 1 member that types fluently.

While i encourage new RPers all the time, I do not encourage those that type poorly, as it is impossible to read, and can very well be considered SPAM. Those of you that RP correctly, thank you, and I do hope that you will encourage such RPing to the rest of the members.

anyone that wishes to comment now may. please be coniderate in your posts.

Lily
November 16th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Can't the moderators of the forum check over the RPGs and perhaps include advice for improving it before closing it?

._.;

Flygon trainer
November 16th, 2004, 07:44 PM
absoloutly not! they should know what they're doing when they try and use Netspeak in RPs, it just doesn't work out! that's why new RPers that use netspeak should either seek the advise of someone viewed as a real RPer, or simply teach themselves to type correctly!

Flygon_Zero
November 16th, 2004, 07:57 PM
I completely agree with this new rule. The whole point of RPs is to try and make it as close as possible to the real thing while improving your skills at the same time. Although there are those talented RPers who use net language, they would benefit from this.
I have one suggestion though. I know you'd rather not close RPs that hold one good RPer, but if one of the more active posters doesn't type properly, tell them so, and if it continues, then close it.
This is just my POV though so yeah.

Flygon trainer
November 16th, 2004, 08:45 PM
Fine, you have a point. warnings will be issued by me(or another mod), then if ignored, closing is immediate. However, this thread will not be closed so other people can add comments and suggestions.

Flygon_Zero
November 16th, 2004, 09:13 PM
I don't think you should issue warnings everywhere, just in places where there is proper RPers. I agree with your statement about closing those threads with horrible RPers though.

-Riyuko-
November 17th, 2004, 08:30 AM
Hmmm...I personally have seen poor RPer's lately. >.>; Its kinda sad really. There is one person who totally annoys me with his grammar. I will not give a name though. ^^;

I agree with you FT, and I believe this is an excellent idea. ^^

--Ri

Lily
November 17th, 2004, 10:30 AM
Ah, I merely meant by asking people to improve and help them out on various spots.

Hey, when I was new to RPGs I didn't have a clue what I was doing and desperately needed someone to tell me what I was doing wrong.

You can't blame them. :/

Flygon trainer
November 17th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Yes, but that is what the nromal good Rpers are suppose to do. I just watch over the place, and since RP threads with all bad Rpers have no chance of getting better, they need closed

Lily
November 17th, 2004, 02:09 PM
Funny, I thought the mods are supposed to help with that as well...?

And um, don't judge people right away. Who knows, the RPers you label 'bad' might turn out good one day.

^^;

Psychotic_Demon
November 17th, 2004, 02:18 PM
this is a good rule, FT. i agree with you. they should be booted out.

Kyosuke
November 17th, 2004, 02:37 PM
I honestly don't think that we have to go to these measures to close a RP thread if its doing poorly due to the members. Everybody who is just beginning to RP has a little trouble as others, and its not breaking any rules because its still following the plot. Just because its not in the manner of how more experienced Rpers would do it, it dousn't mean it should be closed. If there is clear spam and its mostly just conversation going on then fine close it, but just because its not as good quality as others it does not mean it has to be closed. You don't want to put a sence of great fear so people don't post as often.

I think this callls for a "How to Properly RP" style sticky, so members who need help know where to look.

parallelzero
November 17th, 2004, 03:04 PM
Maybe we should just take a poll on it or something, who knows? Anyways, I agree with the idea, but only if the RP has gone horribly wrong.

Flygon trainer
November 17th, 2004, 05:05 PM
Most of the RPs that have all poor Rpers go horribly wrong, and poor Rpers are a pain because 6/10 times they flame you if you try to help them.

Pogiforce-14
November 17th, 2004, 06:36 PM
As much as I understand FT's frustrations since I too have felt them myself several times, I can't agree entirely with this new ruling. the only reason why I myself was a halfway descent RPer when I came here was because I had prior RPing experience on a Zelda forum I was a prominent member of and then when that one was forced to close I had further RPing experience in another Zelda Forum.

However, many of these poor RPers appear to be new users and may not necessarily have prior experience. The best way to reduce poor RPs is not to close them so much as improve the RPers themselves.

an Example of a similar situation. YOu find a drug dealer on the streets selling his wares. If you close his shop, he'll just move somewhere else and reopen. Then you close down that one, he'll just move again. Soon you're street is covered in closed down drug dealer shops and that one drug dealer is still in business. But if you bust the drug dealer and reform him, then he does better and truly benefits you street. Other role play is the street, The bad RPs are the Drug dealer locations, and even though it's a bad metaphor, the bad RPers are the drug dealers. I propose that if this rule is to be enacted their should be a practice Rp. No true plot to it, but a place where Rpers with lack of skill or even those with skill can go and train up in order to improve their writing and RPing skills. That way they can get any advice as to what they're doing wrong without it being detrimental to the RP, since that would be the purpose of that RP in the first place.

Flygon trainer
November 17th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Sadly, RPers can't improve if they are placed with all Rpers like themselves.

Pogiforce-14
November 17th, 2004, 06:59 PM
But because it would be open to the expert RPers too, who could go there to train themselves, they could instruct the bad Rpers as to what they're doing wrong. Frankly if such an RP were to be made and stickied so it was within easy reach, I would volunteer some of my time to step in occasionally and give any tips or pointers in case they make any bothersome or repetitive mistakes.

I think if we give these guys the space they need to learn, and instruct them along the way, they can become good RPers in the end. They woudl jsut have to understand that the RP is not meant for plot and it's meant to improve one's RPing skills. The opening statement could be how joining the RP is equivalent to an agreement stating that people are free to comment on your skill and provide tips on how to improve it. That way if you get someone who joins who starts whining about being criticized, since you know there is one in every crowd, they would have no room to complain because that is the agreement made in joining the RP.

Flygon trainer
November 17th, 2004, 07:02 PM
there was a thread like that in Pokemon RP, it would be interesitng to have a thread like that here. I'll talk to LiquidThunder aobut it. but the threads I was referring to are totally spam and will be treated that way.

Pogiforce-14
November 17th, 2004, 07:05 PM
LIke I said, the only problem with the rule was there was no aspect of improvement. If there is a topic made where they can get better, then there would be no excuse to keep a bad Rp open because they would have no reason to be bad at it unless they purposely didn't go to the Training Rp. And after being shut down a few times, those few people will probably give the training Rp a try so they can RP without getting the topic slammed closed while they're in it. :D

Flygon trainer
November 17th, 2004, 07:09 PM
okay, but it'll take a bit to figure out the specifications of such a thread.

Pogiforce-14
November 19th, 2004, 04:16 AM
Just simply start an RP That includes all realms and worlds they can think of and make it in teh opening statement saying that it is a practice RP And joining means you seek improvement on your RPing skills. in fact, if ever you have to close an RP due to bad roleplayers, refer them to that Practice RP. It shoun't be too difficult. I could even make the topic and all you woudl have to do is sticky it. :\

Colette_The_Chosen
December 12th, 2004, 03:47 PM
I wish to ask-I'll to you right now,my grammar is green stuff that crawled under a rotting log and died,but I'm working on it.But when you say that,FT,do you mean that you can't post Short messages,either? *Embaressed look*

Lily
December 14th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Very short, n00bish messages, such as:

"be4 he went he run 2 cach pichy"

Your grammar can be a tad bit low, but that doesn't stop you from at least making an effort to let your post be coherent enough. ^_^ If it's not understandable at all, THEN that's a problem. But a decent length and what's satisfactory here should do fine. Still unsure about the exact length, ask FT.

Flygon trainer
December 14th, 2004, 05:04 PM
I'd say that two lines would be minimum, but if you're typing well, it shouldn't be much of a problem

Colette_The_Chosen
December 22nd, 2004, 03:58 PM
Okay....I really don't need to link you to the 'Find all posts' section of my page,do I?

Suz
December 25th, 2004, 11:37 AM
well, on some sites there caled n00bs.

and I really like this new rule, but there is the case of bad spelling :/ like yu insted of you XD

Mari
February 10th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Flygon Trainer 2, please stop posting pointless messages [>>' spam]. If you want to talk to someone, simply PM them, or go the DCC in Other Chat.