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Bluerang1
July 30th, 2010, 04:01 AM
I don't think we have one, but we need one. So here we can talk about any info released about the upcoming Anime or game info that could relate to the Anime. Like, Pokemon's about to have it's first African American (Gym Leader) :D And it looks like Iris could be into Pokemon Musicals.

Why weren't Dahlia & other Frontier Brains in the Anime... Anyway, what's the estimated time Best Wishes will come out it the US? Right after game release? Or before? :)

Preview Ad:
http://www.youtube.com/v/GpIKhghdZhQ

Iris:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/bluerang1/iris-kibago.jpg(and Kibago)

Dento:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/bluerang1/reimu.jpg

Professor Araragi:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/bluerang1/professor-araragi.jpg
Courtesy of PokeBeach (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/best-wishes-characters-iris-and-reimu-revealed-on-pokemon-sunday)

Trailer:
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This is what we were talking about earlier:
PokeJungle (http://pokejungle.net/2010/07/30/oha-suta-vid-what-i-missed/)Posted:
Iris:
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/wishes_iris.jpg Looks very, very young :( Indian? Hate the colour scheme.

Rival:
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/wishes_male.jpg Looks better than I though he'd be because of the silhouette. I like this one.

Mew~
July 30th, 2010, 04:10 AM
The anime is supposed to be released around the same time BW is released in japan! And since BW comming to the US where around March maybe the US will get the anime around that time aswell!

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 07:39 AM
She's probably Indian not African-American. Assuming the location is based off an Asian country. If not, I suppose it's possible. And whats Brock? Isnt he African-American according to you he should be ...

Bluerang1
July 30th, 2010, 09:10 AM
PokeJungle (http://pokejungle.net/2010/07/30/oha-suta-vid-what-i-missed/) posted some leaked imaged of the Best Wishes Female Partner and Ash's Rival :)

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 09:13 AM
Looks more Hispanic than anything

★Symbiosis★
July 30th, 2010, 09:28 AM
Where is the pixs of ashes rival i want to see this.

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 09:32 AM
Follow the link dummy ... >.>

Mew~
July 30th, 2010, 10:43 AM
Looks way to fake to me :\ Plus the artwork isn't really as shaded as they usually are.

Gumball Watterson
July 30th, 2010, 10:47 AM
YES I WAS RIGHT! SHE WAS MEXICAN AND THE RIBBON WAS YELLOW!

But she looks a tad younger than I expected....

:(

The eyebrows don't match the beta art either. Nor my failed attempts at fan art (of course)

And since when are leg colors different than the rest of the body?

You know what, **** the fake artist, s/he crushed my dreams.

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Looks way to fake to me :\ Plus the artwork isn't really as shaded as they usually are.

No way. And Bulbapedia has pictures of the Girl too

Gumball Watterson
July 30th, 2010, 11:19 AM
Although there is evidence pointing to fake like lighting inconsistencies, there is also evidence pointing to real. Notice the Pokemon in the background. How do you recreate those so perfectly? There isn't an image that the background could be based on, and taken if it was fake, it should have taken a lot of effort and time into it, which time definitely did not exist from when the silhouettes were revealed to here.

If there isn't a way to debunk the originality of the Pokemon appearing there, then there isn't much left but to say that it's real.

PearlShipper4Life
July 30th, 2010, 11:29 AM
I like Iris look.
The Pokemon as said before look cool too.
The boy I'm ok with, hey'll likely be Brock's replacement.
I think they'll be better on screen though.
Hey'll be like those ritch snobby type guys.
If he's a travel buddy with Ash, I could see him being a nice guy who helps them out and thinks every things solved with money.
Than Ash would have to teach the kid that you can't always buy every thing with money.

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 11:31 AM
The replacement for Brock is dressed overly formal, I dont like it. And the girl looks to short, and her hair makes her look ridiculous. I think they would have been better making her the girl character ... >.>

Dawn could have stuck around. Then again, I was assuming their would be anther Battle Frontier arc but set in Johto so ... yeah

Bluerang1
July 30th, 2010, 11:58 AM
That isn't Brock's replacement! It's an old guy that is. The guy up there is the rival :)

Arago
July 30th, 2010, 12:09 PM
I'm just here to say that the character design for Iris is kinda ugly, imho.

Andrew1989
July 30th, 2010, 12:10 PM
Out of all the Pokemon girls that we've had so far, I think that Iris's design is by far the best one out there!! She could do with a better wardrobe though, her clothing reminds me of one of those people who really don't give a toss about what they wear when they go outside.

The leaked boy looks too posh and snobby to be Ash's travelling companion. I can picture this finely dressed butler boy being Ash's Rival and Brock once again being Ash's Travelling companion.

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 12:33 PM
That isn't Brock's replacement! It's an old guy that is. The guy up there is the rival :)

Are you sure? They did say they were getting rid of Brock ... D:

Bluerang1
July 30th, 2010, 12:58 PM
I think Brock's replacement is the man on here:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
Since Ash is moving to America, Brock and Dawn, even Misty or May, can't come with. That might even be his Dad tagging along xD Or Iris' Dad.

Mew~
July 30th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Well I still don't belive it! How come PokeJungle's the only whos been able to pick up on this, no other sites mentioned it! PokeJungle didn't even give a source or anything... PokeJungles been posting alot of rumours too that haven't been confirmed as true yet about Black and white aswell which I just don't belive...
I think Brock's replacement is the man on here:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
Since Ash is moving to America, Brock and Dawn, even Misty or May, can't come with. That might even be his Dad tagging along xD Or Iris' Dad.
AMERICA?!!??!? That NYC theory hasn't been confirmed and if it was it wouldn't be called america! That guy in that pic looks too old so I don't think he will replace brock or even travel with Ash...
No way. And Bulbapedia has pictures of the Girl too
Where? LOL if you talking about the beta artwork theres no colour in it...

I don't like the look of that other boy in the pictures... Seriously... a bow tie? They can't have run out of ideas already...!

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Ash traveling aound with an old man ... Too pedophile like for Pokemon. They'd get in some DEEP crap I'm pretty sure. Wonder what his purpose is though ... Hmmmm ... :-/

Andrew1989
July 30th, 2010, 02:16 PM
From what I can see in the picture, I have a supicious feeling that the big fat guy is Iris's father.

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 02:42 PM
Who would travel with their dad? ... Thatd be lame

Silver25
July 30th, 2010, 02:46 PM
Well if that guy in the "tux" is real, then I would imagine him definitely being in contests.

Guy
July 30th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Iris was said to be able to communicate with Pokémon. This could be her given story in the show and I think the reason why she looks so different from the other females we've had is because she is different - going by this theory. No other female character could communicate with Pokémon or have any kind of special ability as such. So to go with the gift, she gets interesting clothing. Beyond that, I don't really care. She's kind of cute in my opinion and as of right now I'm more interested in her role and character in the show than how she looks. Whether I like her appearance or not, I'd still eventually grow to liking her.

I actually see her as the replacement to Brock. She's not game-based therefore she can travel with Ash for many more generations to come. Plus, she has a darker skin tone like Brock so the writers won't have to worry about fitting Brock back in the show like before when we had Tracey. I see the boy (if he is a traveling companion with Ash) as the replacement to Dawn. He seems very much like the kind to take part in Contests or Pokémon Musicals and by his look he can come with a very significant personality.

Speaking of the new boy, his clothes are cool in my opinion. I like his style quite much. His face on the other hand, I don't know, his forehead seems a little too big and his eyes too small - or I'm just being too picky. XD; Regardless, I'm hoping he travels with Ash and Iris. I can see him partaking in Contests (I pray that Pokémon Musicals are not a major part in the anime, I rather it be a one-time thing like when the Pokéathlon made an episode and that's it). He could come from a very wealthy family and have a very confident and high personality, thinking he's better than many, but really just starting and learning to realize that. I think he can make for quite the comedic relief as well. n_n;

It hasn't been confirmed that he is Ash's rival, and while it is still possible, we'll have to wait for further confirmation. I'd like him to travel with Ash and Iris though, but the personality I portrayed could fit well with him being the next Paul-like rival to Ash [i.e. Rich, Confident, Strong, and feeling as though he's stronger than most because he only seeks for the best].

Sue me, but I have high hopes for Best Wishes. It definitely strikes me as the writers want to change things a bit. To be honest, I'm all for it. It's about time we get things differently compared to the past thirteen years now. :(

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 05:58 PM
Yes, yes, yes. Well worded. ... I still don like the boy though. Didnt they say that Ash'd have another Paul like rival?

Silver25
July 30th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Yes, yes, yes. Well worded. ... I still don like the boy though. Didnt they say that Ash'd have another Paul like rival?

Yes they did. In my opinion, just by looking at him I don't think he is this so-called rival.

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Prolly not, but he looks snooty. Or IMO at least

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 04:06 AM
If I were any of you, I wouldn't worry about this much more. All our worries MAY be confirmed during Pokemon Sunday later on American Saturday. But there is a remaining chance that the main characters will be shown. But don't rely on it.

Meanwhile, I'll be a posting a separate thread for this Pokemon Sunday, as it won't have much to do with this controversial image.

Dixie
July 31st, 2010, 07:52 AM
I'm not sure about you all but I have high hopes for BW. Someone did mention that it would be somewhat of a fresh start and a bit of a change and I agree since each new girl had a very similiar dynamic after Misty since she wasn't a coodinator. Since I hear Brock and Dawn are leaving, maybe this will show signs of the a new dynamic in a group with Ash and Pikachu.

Here's hoping.

- Khallum

Bluerang1
July 31st, 2010, 08:07 AM
You won't have to Advanced K, this is sort of a General Thread regarding it all. I'll obviously replace the scans once full pics of Pokemon Sunday Info are released :)

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 09:01 AM
I'm not sure about you all but I have high hopes for BW. Someone did mention that it would be somewhat of a fresh start and a bit of a change and I agree since each new girl had a very similiar dynamic after Misty since she wasn't a coodinator. Since I hear Brock and Dawn are leaving, maybe this will show signs of the a new dynamic in a group with Ash and Pikachu.

Here's hoping.

- Khallum

Yes. And dont BOLD everything.

You won't have to Advanced K, this is sort of a General Thread regarding it all. I'll obviously replace the scans once full pics of Pokemon Sunday Info are released :)

Dont replace them, just add new ones.

Guy
July 31st, 2010, 09:29 AM
... Or you could continue the discussion of the B&W Pokémon Sunday show and what is to be revealed this weekend, here (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=227133). Seeing as it's basically relating to the same thing. o.o;

Just saying.

Bluerang1
July 31st, 2010, 11:14 AM
[s]I guess. I just thought that thread was about Diamond and Pearl only ^_^[/s[ Ooops, thought it was the 182-18x Thread xD Do you want to Merge the threads?

4 hours until Pokemon Sunday :)

Vernikova
July 31st, 2010, 01:31 PM
Or you guys can run things by me first since neither of you are going to merge the threads on your own right? Unless you guys can and I'm just ignorant on the matter.

e: I don't know what to do with this thread. I think I should just merge all of the threads into this thread or I can close this thread and leave the other ones open. Or I can have this thread open to serve another purpose. OP want to help me out here?

Bluerang1
July 31st, 2010, 02:43 PM
Well this is about Best Wishes, that was about Pokemon Sunday, I guess they can co-exist :)

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 03:06 PM
I'll agree with this thread being the current discussion for Best Wishes then. However, I also think a merge with the other Pokemon Sunday thread is recommendable since all its doing is covering the BW aspect.

Also, **** YEAH, She doesn't looks as young as that stupid picture XD

Bluerang1
July 31st, 2010, 03:08 PM
You're watching as well! *hi5* I actually like her now, she's WILD! Jungle Girl type. And does have dark skin. Latin/African. Also I like the idea of all 3 of them traveling together, it's different. It won't be all about Ash anymore :)

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 03:09 PM
WTF. How can you guys get Sunday?

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 03:13 PM
I think the program is Keyhole TV, and no, I wasn't watching a few moments ago, I was away XP

Edit: Shamlessly ripped off from BMGF :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img340/9972/irisvine.png

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q419/Joshidreamwalker/BestWishes.jpg

Screw the guy. My Iris~~~!

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 03:30 PM
She looks stupid with that giant ball of hair

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 03:39 PM
She looks stupid with that giant ball of hair

*Adds GFA to Shoot-outBlack list*

Her hair is pretty. It's crazy, therefore it's pretty. It's got that tingle shade of blue that adds to it just like Ashy's Vomit Green tingle to his green hair. Any questions?

Arago
July 31st, 2010, 03:44 PM
Ehhhhh. I gotta say, I like the guy more than I like Iris.

Guy
July 31st, 2010, 03:45 PM
She's swinging from a tree! Do you know how awesome that is?

...The new guy looks much better in the anime than his art. n_n;

Masterge77
July 31st, 2010, 03:52 PM
The new guy looks like Drew, too much like Drew, probably a clone like Dawn was a clone of May, but more idiotic.....

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 04:04 PM
Pfft. I have no problem with the hair colour, but the fact that it isnt strait but a ball instead ... What'd she do? Rap it around a dead Electrode?

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 04:06 PM
Pm6EbuayCe4

Iris's voice is so kawaii. Ew, I don't like the poster though, goes against Negaishipping, but I'll rant on that in the shipping thread~

Ehhhhh. I gotta say, I like the guy more than I like Iris.

Aaand... hit-list

She's swinging from a tree! Do you know how awesome that is?


You're my Hiiro~

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 04:11 PM
I TOLD YOU SHE HAD POKEMON IN HER DAMN HAIR!!

This looks good, I have high hopes for Iris. The girl professor though ... Not so much ...

Guy
July 31st, 2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah, so I snagged these pictures from a thread on Serebii, who snagged it from someone else. XD;

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280617522016.jpg

New poster. n_n; Not surprising that Ash isn't seen.

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280617620759.jpg

You saw this already, but it's bigger. =o Iris and her partner, Kibago.

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280617759878.jpg

The Bidoof of this region looking for something? For the record, if I ever caught this Pokémon, I would never evolve it. D:

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280617818570.jpg

Mijumaru <3333

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280617921838.jpg

"Swinging to a new era of Pokemon!" said A Merry Snorunt @ SPPf.

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280617968523.jpg

Reimu. He IS confirmed to be traveling with Ash and the group. YUS!!! Hopefully he does contests, and not musicals. I like him much better in the anime now that I can see him well enough.

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/NS2J82/Images/1280618008608.jpg

Prof. Arugari (is that her name?) smiling. :)

edit: Oh, there's the video. D: I feel so slow now. ;-;

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 04:16 PM
I TOLD YOU SHE HAD POKEMON IN HER DAMN HAIR!!

This looks good, I have high hopes for Iris. The girl professor though ... Not so much ...

And I thought losing pencils in my hair was bad :(

In her case, it's sexy.

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 04:35 PM
No its not. She's 11 max. Unless your a lolicon it isnt sexy at all.

It's cool that she isnt (Caus)Asian.

BakingBluePotatoe
July 31st, 2010, 04:51 PM
did that dino thing just jump into her hair? O_O

SHE'S SWINGING ON VINES!


WTF. And I wonder who sent out the three starters? DOES IRIS GET SMUGLEAF!? :3 (from the looks of things, it looks like all three of the group get the starters.. I wonder who Ash gets? :3)

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 04:54 PM
did that dino thing just jump into her hair? O_O

SHE'S SWINGING ON VINES!


WTF. And I wonder who sent out the three starters? DOES IRIS GET SMUGLEAF!? :3 (from the looks of things, it looks like all three of the group get the starters.. I wonder who Ash gets? :3)

Well, he's never had a Water Type as his sole starter, but Miijumaru sucks. Im thinking its the pig. Its probably the Professor that sent the Pokemon out ...

Silver25
July 31st, 2010, 05:05 PM
Well, he's never had a Water Type as his sole starter, but Miijumaru sucks. Im thinking its the pig. Its probably the Professor that sent the Pokemon out ...

Or it could be possible that Ash gets all the starters like Kanto (although highly unlikely, it is still possible). As for Iris and Kibago, exactly what I was thinking after seeing that art drawing and I am pretty excited for this new series. The new guy seems alright and while I'd like him to do contests, I have a feeling he'll be doing musicals (just because it is a new concept and the creators probably want to focus on that). Or maybe he'll do both?

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 05:11 PM
Their probably wont be contsts. Though taking an element out of the show is harder than adding one ... I hope he doesnt have all 3. It means less character development for the individual Pokemon

jfuze174
July 31st, 2010, 05:36 PM
whoa i didnt expect them to have the anime ready already anywhoes i dont mind the new girl since the new region is rumored to be american based and idk theh guy looks more like a contest rival than some one who is going to travel with ash and since the new girl first pokemon isnt a starter looks like ash might have all three like in the original regions

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 05:42 PM
... Well ... People have started with 2 (or more) Pokemon before ... Brock did, Misty did, Ash in Sinnoh did (albeit unintentionally).

Phantom Poodle
July 31st, 2010, 05:48 PM
So, wait, what... There is only one character who follows Ash now?

... I knew getting rid of Brock was a terrible idea. .___.

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 05:56 PM
No, the guy on the first post will be. The one whose overly dressed up and the small eyes.

Guy
July 31st, 2010, 06:07 PM
The new guy's name is Dento, and he will be traveling with Ash and Iris in Isshu. It makes me wonder, all these characters being anime-based, could possibly mean they travel with Ash for more than one generation.

Just a feeling, but I think Dento will be choosing Tsutaja as his starting Pokémon. Therefore he is more the replacement of Dawn as he looks like the type to do Contests or Musicals and Iris is the replacement of Brock. I guess we'll know for sure in September though. n_n;

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 06:12 PM
Yep. But we dont have place for two people to go after the E4 do we?

DO WE!!?

Vernikova
July 31st, 2010, 06:13 PM
Wait, wait. What the **** is the green haired guy's name? Reimu or Dento?

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 06:17 PM
It's Dento. Reimu was the rumored name because of this (http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1844221&postcount=539).

Well, I can delete that Bookmark now. Iris is not a psychic or anything XD

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 06:22 PM
Oh good ... Though, if she was it'd be interesting. She'd be like Yellow in Adventures

Guy
July 31st, 2010, 07:14 PM
It's Dento. Reimu was the rumored name because of this (http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1844221&postcount=539).

Well, I can delete that Bookmark now. Iris is not a psychic or anything XD
Sucks though, because what was said in that rumor would have made the anime very much enjoyable.

Blue_Drifblim
July 31st, 2010, 07:20 PM
Iris... is... awesome! Swinging from vines? Pokemon in her hair? Oh yes. Dento is alright too. I wish we saw more of him though.

Here is the clip posted before in better quality.


jEJJFuSmGpE

GFA
July 31st, 2010, 08:02 PM
Pokemon in her hair? LAME. LAME I TELL YOU!

Gumball Watterson
July 31st, 2010, 08:05 PM
Pokemon in her hair? LAME. LAME I TELL YOU!

K then, Iris Fanboyativity aside, you are starting to get on my nerves. You don't have to rant a tad bit every other post.

Haza
July 31st, 2010, 09:40 PM
Dahlia was Indian... even though they come in multiple skin tones, I am positive that Aloe is African American/Black and possibly Iris.

Mew~
August 1st, 2010, 01:03 AM
I can't belive those pics were real :\ OMG Kibago jumped into iris's hair o.o! One thing ive noticed is that there was no ash in the video so far :) Hopefully it will stay that way!

Silver25
August 1st, 2010, 01:03 AM
Regarding Dento, I saw this on another fourm where someone translated some details
(NOT CONFIRMED TO MY KNOWLEDGE):

Dento: A Pokémon sommelier who, with his abundance of knowledge and experience, determines the compatibility of Trainers and Pokémon and gives them advice on how to befriend each other.

Hiroshi Sotomura
August 1st, 2010, 03:09 AM
…did they just change the animation style again? :(
Is the first thing that surged through my head.

Iris looks a lot nicer than I thought, though. I'll probably watch Best Wishes and see if I get bored. (I wonder about that.) I wonder why Satoshi hasn't appeared yet; they really need to stop "surprising" us with his sudden appearance in the region because it isn't funny.

But I LOVE Araragi's voice actor. She is such hot awesomeness (but not as much as Shirona). :>

Pandemonioum
August 1st, 2010, 03:49 AM
Araragi sure has hot voice, and she looks lot younger in anime than she looked in official art.

GFA
August 1st, 2010, 07:52 AM
K then, Iris Fanboyativity aside, you are starting to get on my nerves. You don't have to rant a tad bit every other post.

It wasnt a rant, I was stating my opinion. I dont have the drive to put on a rant

…did they just change the animation style again? :(
Is the first thing that surged through my head.

... ... Looks the same as Diamond and Pearl to me, which is better than any of the previous animation ...

Araragi sure has hot voice, and she looks lot younger in anime than she looked in official art.

She still looks 50

PearlShipper4Life
August 1st, 2010, 10:21 AM
I can't belive those pics were real :\ OMG Kibago jumped into iris's hair o.o! One thing ive noticed is that there was no ash in the video so far :) Hopefully it will stay that way!

Hardly, Ash will likely appear in the last two posters with them like last time. In D/P they just advertized Dawn at first and LOL Every one was like Zomygosh Dawn taking over Ash spot blah blah blah and than two posters came with Ash on it :P They just want to advertize the new characters first is all. Any who, Iris looks great I can't wait to see her in action along with the other guy. Seems like this really could be it for Brock like I thought.

GFA
August 1st, 2010, 10:24 AM
Yeah, pictures of Ash are already up on Bulbapedia. lol. And Brock is out, its been official for a while.

Mew~
August 1st, 2010, 11:18 AM
Yeah, pictures of Ash are already up on Bulbapedia. lol. And Brock is out, its been official for a while.
Yeah you said that twice now and I saw the beta artwork ages ago on a japanese fourm... its only beta artwork thats why I said I was hoping for ash to be scribbled off xD

GFA
August 1st, 2010, 11:24 AM
Not going to happen. If he made it into the Beta, he wont get cut. I think they said they have the 1st couple of episodes made already.

Mew~
August 1st, 2010, 12:12 PM
Well then maybe you don't know what the term "beta" means lol (Na im kidding, but I know its not gonna happen.. I just wish it would :\)

Semidos
August 1st, 2010, 12:40 PM
So... The leaked scan was true. Too bad for me. I hate Iris's design. I hate her eyes, her hairstyle and color are terrible. Dento looks like sleek fop. His eyes are weird either. Ehh, this series is gonna be bad for me.

GFA
August 1st, 2010, 12:47 PM
It looks the best since the original if you ask me. I like Iris, though, Dento looks like your stereotypical homosexual

Silver25
August 1st, 2010, 01:00 PM
It looks the best since the original if you ask me. I like Iris, though, Dento looks like your stereotypical homosexual

I completely agree with this. For me, the background of Isshu seems really different somehow in the anime. More like a jungle somewhat I guess, anyways I like it. Iris seems like a great original character and Dento seems ok from the 5 seconds we've seen of him. I think this will be wayyyy better than Sinnoh (which I still like kind-of, it just dragged on).

GFA
August 1st, 2010, 06:04 PM
So, Dento tells people how to be better partners to their Pokemon. He ... doesnt sound like a battler then. Think he'll actually get any development?

Silver25
August 1st, 2010, 06:08 PM
So, Dento tells people how to be better partners to their Pokemon. He ... doesnt sound like a battler then. Think he'll actually get any development?

It's definitely possible. Seems to me like they are trying to change a lot this generation. With the absence of Brock they are free to change how the anime "works" and that could be a good thing or bad. Since they are adding at least one character not in the games that could mean they are wanting to go in-depth a little more into Ash's new friends.

It may just be a preview, but what I saw in the video was clearly different than what they have been doing before, to me at least. I can't really explain it but it feels different when I watch it.

GFA
August 1st, 2010, 06:13 PM
It's definitely possible. Seems to me like they are trying to change a lot this generation. With the absence of Brock they are free to change how the anime "works" and that could be a good thing or bad. Since they are adding at least one character not in the games that could mean they are wanting to go in-depth a little more into Ash's new friends.

It may just be a preview, but what I saw in the video was clearly different than what they have been doing before, to me at least. I can't really explain it but it feels different when I watch it.

Yeah. It seems different so far, which sounds like a step in the right direction to me.

Dixie
August 2nd, 2010, 05:17 AM
Wow, just by watching that Pokemon Sunday anime preview, it's excited more than I'd hoped. I really do believe this upcoming series will revitalise the series.

The girl seems really different from the previous females that have accompanied Ash before. I'm liking her. I don't have many comments on Dento but he seems nice.

Any idea if there's confirmation on the girls ethnicity? Not that it's really that important.

Kirbychu
August 2nd, 2010, 08:04 AM
Any idea if there's confirmation on the girls ethnicity? Not that it's really that important.
I would say either African-Isshuian, Indian, maybe Latin. They're never going to confirm it, like you said, it doesn't even matter.

I'm not excited about anything here, In the end, I think it will just be the same as always, just a little bit better.

I absolutely hate Iris's hair, and Dento looks a bit... Fruity...

Dixie
August 2nd, 2010, 08:51 AM
I would say either African-Isshuian, Indian, maybe Latin. They're never going to confirm it, like you said, it doesn't even matter.

I'm not excited about anything here, In the end, I think it will just be the same as always, just a little bit better.

I absolutely hate Iris's hair, and Dento looks a bit... Fruity...


I guess it's one of things that people can just assume. I'd assume mexican or indian but she does seem rather interesting.

lol Dento fruity. That made me chuckle. He rather reminds me of what James would've been like in his teens. XD.

I hope Team Rocket get some new attire. Although I doubt it'll happen but their clothing is getting tiresome.

nickstr
August 2nd, 2010, 09:07 AM
So... The leaked scan was true. Too bad for me. I hate Iris's design. I hate her eyes, her hairstyle and color are terrible. Dento looks like sleek fop. His eyes are weird either. Ehh, this series is gonna be bad for me.
Maybe its time for you to do what I did a long time ago, quit watching the series. Don't focus on nor care about any new or upcoming episodes after the start of this one. I focus on the series as it existed before 2003 in Japan or 2004 in the US and don't regret it in the least.

Gumball Watterson
August 2nd, 2010, 10:00 AM
Maybe its time for you to do what I did a long time ago, quit watching the series. Don't focus on nor care about any new or upcoming episodes after the start of this one. I focus on the series as it existed before 2003 in Japan or 2004 in the US and don't regret it in the least.

So you're in this discussion because...?

Any idea if there's confirmation on the girls ethnicity? Not that it's really that important.

She has to be Mexican now. African Americans/Isshu/whatev aren't usually depicted as "Jungly" or anything like that in media. And Mexicans definitely have outdoor ability. She's Mexican, just like Ash.

Bay Alexison
August 2nd, 2010, 11:49 AM
I'm actually pretty excited for the series. Looks like Iris will be a trainer and Dento will go for contests. Nice to see a female main character going the trainer route for a change. I like the designs of the two, although Dento's face seems a bit weird to me. XD Eh, don't care too much about designs, though. I care a bit more of their personality, so can't wait to see how they'll develop and such. I was excited about Professor Araragi when she was first introduced, so can't wait to see how she'll be like in the show.

I too noticed Ash hasn't been shown yet, however most likely he'll still be the main character in Best Wishes seeing there is beta art of him. Would be interesting though if him, Iris, and Dento traveled together. What I would like to see from that is perhaps both Ash and Iris getting badges and they'll probably get them at the same time, or maybe fight over who will go against the gym leader first. :P

Pandemonioum
August 2nd, 2010, 02:09 PM
Say what you say about the characters, but one thing is sure:

Dr. Araragi has sexy voice :P

SuperLightning
August 2nd, 2010, 03:30 PM
Iris huh? this is the 3rd time today ive seen an animal go into a ball of hair...like that one dude with the chocobo in his afro. lol

nickstr
August 2nd, 2010, 03:39 PM
So you're in this discussion because...?

I could say the same to you, especially after being a hypocrite in relation to bashing the people who want Misty back even briefly yet obsessing on a new girl that no one knows anything about.

Semidos
August 2nd, 2010, 03:59 PM
Maybe its time for you to do what I did a long time ago, quit watching the series. Don't focus on nor care about any new or upcoming episodes after the start of this one. I focus on the series as it existed before 2003 in Japan or 2004 in the US and don't regret it in the least.
I already did. But I really had a hope that this time next saga will be enjoyable for me. Sadly I got disappointed. Maybe you're right. Maybe I should end with this.

Still hope for Misty cameo/return, still.

spike6958
August 2nd, 2010, 07:53 PM
After seeing these new Characters, I have to say I'm not that impressed, considering Nintendo said they wanted Pokemon to "mature" I thought they would have made Iris look older, but instead she's just Dawn with a tan and new hair, and Dento I dunno is he supposed to be Brock's replacement or something, either way i'm not too sure on him.

Seeing these makes me think one thing, thank god that Jessie, James and Meowth are still in the show, the TRio may have gone way down hill since Johto, but them and Brock where the only characters in the anime I have cared about at all since Hoenn started (I never liked Ash myself, Brock, Misty and the TRio where the reason I stuck with the show to begin with, after the Pokemon themselves of course, and May and Dawn where just dull), and it's nice to know that they are still there even if they are just shadows of there former selfs.

Silver25
August 2nd, 2010, 10:32 PM
After seeing these new Characters, I have to say I'm not that impressed, considering Nintendo said they wanted Pokemon to "mature" I thought they would have made Iris look older, but instead she's just Dawn with a tan and new hair, and Dento I dunno is he supposed to be Brock's replacement or something, either way i'm not too sure on him.

But remember even if they said they wanted to "mature" the show it is still a kid's show. Anything they might have thought about changing wouldn't have been major.

Dixie
August 3rd, 2010, 05:20 AM
Everyone has alot of opinions on the new series but I think we should all wait until it actually airs before we pass judgement on whether or not it would be good.

Judging by face value isn't exactly a sure thing since these characters could be totally different to how you would be reading them or even looking.

I honestly thought Dawn was going to be a horrible character but she wasn't that bad. My imagination went overtime.

I just hope you guys give the new series a try before you write it off as crap. imo.

GFA
August 3rd, 2010, 08:07 AM
After seeing these new Characters, I have to say I'm not that impressed, considering Nintendo said they wanted Pokemon to "mature" I thought they would have made Iris look older, but instead she's just Dawn with a tan and new hair, and Dento I dunno is he supposed to be Brock's replacement or something, either way i'm not too sure on him.

Except, she isnt. She wont do Contests (unless Im mistaken). She's more like Sapphire from Special then anything. She has a freaking Dragon type afterall, how lame can she be?

EDIT: It alos appears as if we were wrong. Iris may be original, but Dento is in the games.

Tox
August 3rd, 2010, 10:51 AM
Am I the only one who likes Dento's design? Green. <3 I don't think he looks "gay" either. His role, I'm still not too sure about. I really hope he actually does something and doesn't end up like Brock, Tracey or Max. A Sommelier (?) doesn't seem like a major job. I will cry if he doesn't have any Pokémon or if he only has a few terrible ones.

I love the basic idea of Iris. She seems really unique which is great. Her hair really bugs me though. It's way too big, especially at the back. Other than that, I'm looking forward to this. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm happy Brock's gone. No matter how many times I watch it, his new voice makes me cringe.

Guy
August 3rd, 2010, 10:55 AM
EDIT: It alos appears as if we were wrong. Iris may be original, but Dento is in the games.
Iris was told to be an anime-based character, so I'm sure that confirms she won't be in the games like said. However, Dento was never mentionen, but was just thought to be anime-based since he wasn't currently apparent in the B&W games ... until now. :o

I'm curious to what his role would be in the games, big or small seeing as he's in the anime, and if the anime is going to make him have the same team as he will in the games or make it differ like what they did to Barry later on.

One thing for sure though, his artwork for the games is slightly different than that of the anime, with the apron and all. n_n;

GFA
August 3rd, 2010, 11:33 AM
Am I the only one who likes Dento's design? Green. <3 I don't think he looks "gay" either. His role, I'm still not too sure about. I really hope he actually does something and doesn't end up like Brock, Tracey or Max. A Sommelier (?) doesn't seem like a major job. I will cry if he doesn't have any Pokémon or if he only has a few terrible ones.

I love the basic idea of Iris. She seems really unique which is great. Her hair really bugs me though. It's way too big, especially at the back. Other than that, I'm looking forward to this. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm happy Brock's gone. No matter how many times I watch it, his new voice makes me cringe.

None of the main characters have weak Pokemon. NONE. Jessie and James' Pokemon are probably in the 90's but Pikachu is like levl 500. lol.

I never cared for the voiceacting one way or the other.

I'm curious to what his role would be in the games, big or small seeing as he's in the anime, and if the anime is going to make him have the same team as he will in the games or make it differ like what they did to Barry later on.

One thing for sure though, his artwork for the games is slightly different than that of the anime, with the apron and all. n_n;

He looks like a waiter, and Aloe looks like a cook ... May be they have something to do with eachother?

RaichuPwnsPikachu
August 3rd, 2010, 11:35 AM
dento is like a butler or something lol

Mew~
August 3rd, 2010, 12:18 PM
dento is like a butler or something lol
Looks more or less like a waiter to me LOL But I think the animes made him some sorta presenter or co-ordinator!

GFA
August 3rd, 2010, 12:27 PM
Looks more or less like a waiter to me LOL But I think the animes made him some sorta presenter or co-ordinator!

He's a "Sommelier" whatever the hell that means

Storm_has_formed
August 3rd, 2010, 12:49 PM
He's a "Sommelier" whatever the hell that means
it was said that means he is a waiter on pokebeach

Edit: From Pokebeach: The TV Tokyo website also posted biographies (http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_bw/) of the characters. For Iris, they say, "Her specialty is tree climbing, she makes good use of berries for herself, and she is a girl with very wild behavior. For some reason, she is traveling with the Dragon-type Pokemon, Kibago." For Dento, the new male, they say he is "A Pokemon Sommelier (waiter) who is a source of abundant knowledge and experience, diagnoses the compatibility between Trainer and Pokemon, and gives advice on how to befriend. Is this really, in fact, true?!" My theory based on the biographies: Iris replaces Dawn (obvious to anyone) and Dento replaces Brock or is just a rival in Pokemon Contests.

GFA
August 3rd, 2010, 12:52 PM
Yeah, Wiki says a Sommelier is a "Wine Steward." lol. Uhmmm. Yeah. He cant be a waiter and travel ... ... Hmmmm

joacen
August 3rd, 2010, 05:53 PM
I've seen some very interesting previews for the new series. I am really looking forward to see what the show will be like without Brock. I do agree that the writers seem to want to take the show in a different direction, and that's good. Can't wait for the new series!

Charizardomination
August 3rd, 2010, 06:27 PM
This is so stupid, when will they stop shoving crappy characters in our faces and just bring back Misty?

Gumball Watterson
August 3rd, 2010, 08:14 PM
I've seen some very interesting previews for the new series. I am really looking forward to see what the show will be like without Brock. I do agree that the writers seem to want to take the show in a different direction, and that's good. Can't wait for the new series!

It was about time for Brock to leave. This direction I feel will not be regretted.

"A Pokemon Sommelier (waiter)

I know what Waiter is, but what the hell would be a Pokemon Waiter? Or is Sommelier really Wine steward? I'm lost. Don't worry though, my caring will decrease D:


This is so stupid, when will they stop shoving crappy characters in our faces and just bring back Misty?

Side effects of Mistyrama include trolling, wandering out of fanclubs, and the desire to be shot by an AK-47 (See signature), and persist until victim is 40 years old~.

GFA
August 4th, 2010, 07:05 AM
I know what Waiter is, but what the hell would be a Pokemon Waiter? Or is Sommelier really Wine steward? I'm lost. Don't worry though, my caring will decrease D:

Its just a poor treanslation. either way he has something to do with food. How they can make that work without looking incredibly stupid, well, I'll never know.

Dixie
August 4th, 2010, 07:25 AM
Its just a poor treanslation. either way he has something to do with food. How they can make that work without looking incredibly stupid, well, I'll never know.
Translation.

I really hope they revist that aspect in the character. It doesn't really seem necessary. What is he going to do? Travel the region serving people.

I hope it's not a definite thing. Other than that, I like him.

GFA
August 4th, 2010, 07:35 AM
Translation.

I really hope they revist that aspect in the character. It doesn't really seem necessary. What is he going to do? Travel the region serving people.

I hope it's not a definite thing. Other than that, I like him.

Yes, translation. My spell Check is broke.

Maybe.

Look at his costume, I doubt it.

Dixie
August 4th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Yes, translation. My spell Check is broke.

Maybe.

Look at his costume, I doubt it.

Miracles can happen. :D
I'm hoping he's a coordinator since we haven't had a male lead coordinator. Would be a nice change.

Is there definite confirmation as to his role in the upcoming season?

Guy
August 4th, 2010, 08:49 AM
A Sommelier is a waiter who specializes in the knowledge of the many different aspects of wine. Taking that into perspective, a Pokémon Sommelier is probably a waiter (based on his clothes) who specializes in the knowledge of the many different Pokémon. However, this does not mean it'll be Dento's long term goal. Brock started off as a region's gym leader, but later changed his goal to becoming a Pokémon Breeder. As did May, who started her journey off to becoming a Pokémon Trainer like Ash, but changed goals when she learned about Pokémon Contests. Dento could easily start off as a Pokémon Sommelier, but later change his goals to something else (i.e. a Pokémon Coordinator or a Pokémon Musician). He looks very much like the type of trainer who would take part in such events regardless.

GFA
August 4th, 2010, 09:25 AM
A Sommelier is a waiter who specializes in the knowledge of the many different aspects of wine. Taking that into perspective, a Pokémon Sommelier is probably a waiter (based on his clothes) who specializes in the knowledge of the many different Pokémon. However, this does not mean it'll be Dento's long term goal. Brock started off as a region's gym leader, but later changed his goal to becoming a Pokémon Breeder. As did May, who started her journey off to becoming a Pokémon Trainer like Ash, but changed goals when she learned about Pokémon Contests. Dento could easily start off as a Pokémon Sommelier, but later change his goals to something else (i.e. a Pokémon Coordinator or a Pokémon Musician). He looks very much like the type of trainer who would take part in such events regardless.

Well, everyone since Hoenn's done at least 1 contest, not counting Max, becuase he hasn't any Pokemon. I wonder if they'll cut contests, it'll be hard for them to do nand not look like idiots (the writers I mean).

PearlShipper4Life
August 4th, 2010, 12:03 PM
This is so stupid, when will they stop shoving crappy characters in our faces and just bring back Misty?

Its sad how you won't give new characters a chance. Misty wasn't even any thing special to begin with no offense. I look forward to these guys and I am a Dawn fan, see me not bashing characters just cuz there replacing one of my favorites >>

Semidos
August 4th, 2010, 03:17 PM
Misty wasn't even any thing special to begin with no offense.
She was. She was one of the reasons why original trio had the best dynamic, interactions, relations. And the anime never was boring with her. We could see real emotions between characters and lot of funny situations. But that all is just my opinion.

PearlShipper4Life
August 4th, 2010, 05:08 PM
She was. She was one of the reasons why original trio had the best dynamic, interactions, relations. And the anime never was boring with her. We could see real emotions between characters and lot of funny situations. But that all is just my opinion.

Hey that's great, I respect your opinion on that. I feel differently on the subject though, I loved all the series beyond series 1-4 and am still looking forward to this up coming one. Maybe its cuz I'm an Ash fan so, no matter who goes I'll be fine as long as he staysXD

Storm_has_formed
August 4th, 2010, 05:23 PM
are contests staying? I have a feeling that they are taking it out of the anime...

GFA
August 4th, 2010, 08:03 PM
are contests staying? I have a feeling that they are taking it out of the anime...

It is expected, that no, no they wont as they arent as Isshu. However, it is harder to get rid of an element, then it is to add one.

Charizardomination
August 4th, 2010, 08:20 PM
Its sad how you won't give new characters a chance. Misty wasn't even any thing special to begin with no offense. I look forward to these guys and I am a Dawn fan, see me not bashing characters just cuz there replacing one of my favorites >>
Misty had a lot more interactivity with the group. She made the anime funny and she had the most emotion out of all the girls. I swear dawn was a robot. No one wants contest those were stupid no one even likes them. They are just a waste of data.

Semidos
August 5th, 2010, 04:43 AM
Hey that's great, I respect your opinion on that.
That's ok.

are contests staying? I have a feeling that they are taking it out of the anime...
Probably not, if they are going to do something with Pokemon Musicals. So I wonder what they want to do.

GFA
August 5th, 2010, 08:15 AM
Misty had a lot more interactivity with the group. She made the anime funny and she had the most emotion out of all the girls. I swear dawn was a robot. No one wants contest those were stupid no one even likes them. They are just a waste of data.

Dude, chill. If you dont like it, dont watch it. Personally, Misty didnt do anything, and didnt get any screen time, and when she did, she just did the same thing as Ash, battle.

PearlShipper4Life
August 5th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Misty had a lot more interactivity with the group. She made the anime funny and she had the most emotion out of all the girls. I swear dawn was a robot. No one wants contest those were stupid no one even likes them. They are just a waste of data.

I don't like contests either but I like May and Dawn dispite them being in contests. Guess, I just enjoy the characters and character arcs they went through. I think a lot of people do enjoy contests, or else they'd have just been in one series. Sounds like you might get your wish on getting rid of them though, but they might replace it with some thing simular.

Vernikova
August 5th, 2010, 01:23 PM
Stop straying from the topic please.

Team Fail
August 5th, 2010, 01:30 PM
I really have to wonder what Araragi said at the end of that clip. Too bad it isn't translated. I think Ash is gone now, or else there is going to be 2 different Pokemon shows. It'll be very confusing.

Silver25
August 5th, 2010, 06:58 PM
I think Ash is gone now, or else there is going to be 2 different Pokemon shows. It'll be very confusing.

But remember on the beta art that was released a while ago, Ash was present along with Iris, and Team Rocket.

Gumball Watterson
August 5th, 2010, 09:56 PM
I really have to wonder what Araragi said at the end of that clip. Too bad it isn't translated. I think Ash is gone now, or else there is going to be 2 different Pokemon shows. It'll be very confusing.

Dozou Yoroshiku. According to my miserable beginner Japanese, it's just a simple "Nice to meet you"

Dixie
August 5th, 2010, 10:58 PM
Dozou Yoroshiku. According to my miserable beginner Japanese, it's just a simple "Nice to meet you"

what do you think is Prof. Araragi's English name is going to be?
Something related to tree, obviously.
I'm thinking Prof. Beech, Prof. Cherry, Prof. Yew, Prof. Olive Prof. Magnolia?

either of them sound fine. My money is on Prof. Cherry, Prof. Yew & Prof. Olive.

Gumball Watterson
August 6th, 2010, 12:06 AM
I'd say Professor Olivia or Professor Holly. I dunno. Just googling whatever to do with trees. That's what it comes to for professors I guess.

GFA
August 6th, 2010, 05:59 AM
Just remeber, just becuase she's a girl doesnt mean her LAST NAME is going to sound feminine

Kirbychu
August 6th, 2010, 07:24 AM
I really have to wonder what Araragi said at the end of that clip. Too bad it isn't translated. I think Ash is gone now, or else there is going to be 2 different Pokemon shows. It'll be very confusing.
Not that there going to do this, but it'd be interesting if they ran two groups at the same time. One group would go through the Pokemon Black exclusive areas and the other would run through Pokemon White's. That could be pretty confusing but it could work. At least there would be less fillers. Seeing the two trainers meet at the league would be pretty interesting.

Dixie
August 6th, 2010, 07:51 AM
I'd say Professor Olivia or Professor Holly. I dunno. Just googling whatever to do with trees. That's what it comes to for professors I guess.

I hope the don't change the relations to trees. Prof. Cherry would fit her perfectly.

Just remeber, just becuase she's a girl doesnt mean her LAST NAME is going to sound feminine

We know but since she's a woman, I'd say Pokemon would give her a feminine name.

da_absol
August 6th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Has any of you every seen Iris? Personally i think she is VERY demeaning to Pokemon. She is a crazy vine-swinging little kid that went to a tanning booth when she was 4. Then she hides her Pokemon in her HAIR. Seriously, soon Pokemon Freaks are going to start doing that. I bet Iris's hair is purple since algae grew on it and then got so dirty it turned purple. Plus she looks the youngest of all the female protagonists. What has Pokemon come to?

Vernikova
August 6th, 2010, 02:38 PM
There's already a thread to discuss Iris, the woman, and the green haired guy so I'll merge the two.

Gumball Watterson
August 6th, 2010, 07:01 PM
Has any of you every seen Iris? Personally i think she is VERY demeaning to Pokemon. She is a crazy vine-swinging little kid that went to a tanning booth when she was 4. Then she hides her Pokemon in her HAIR. Seriously, soon Pokemon Freaks are going to start doing that. I bet Iris's hair is purple since algae grew on it and then got so dirty it turned purple. Plus she looks the youngest of all the female protagonists. What has Pokemon come to?

I'll tell you. It has come to the point where I get fanboy raves over her.

Any Questions? No. Good night~

Dixie
August 7th, 2010, 05:36 AM
Has any of you every seen Iris? Personally i think she is VERY demeaning to Pokemon. She is a crazy vine-swinging little kid that went to a tanning booth when she was 4. Then she hides her Pokemon in her HAIR. Seriously, soon Pokemon Freaks are going to start doing that. I bet Iris's hair is purple since algae grew on it and then got so dirty it turned purple. Plus she looks the youngest of all the female protagonists. What has Pokemon come to?

Umm, you do realise Pokemon is not real? Nevermind, don't answer that.

New Pokemon (Emonga) Flying Squirrel Pokémon. It's both electric and flying. I'm not sure but isn't that a first?



http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/emonga.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/emonga.png) http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/gigaiasu.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/gigaiasu.png) http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/darumaaka.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/darumaaka.png) http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/plant.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/plant.png) http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/emonga-sprite.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/emonga-sprite.png)


Emonga (エモンガ) is the Flying Squirrel Pokemon, stands 0.4m tall, and weights 5.0kg. It is an Electric / Flying-type and has Static as its ability.
Gigaiasu (ギガイアス), which was revealed previously, is the High Pressure Pokemon. It is a Rock-type, has the Sturdy ability, stands 1.7m tall, and weighs 270.0kg.
Darumakka (ダルマッカ) is a Fire-type and the supposed pre-evolution of Hihidaruma.
Another new Pokemon revealed but not pictured is Basurao (バスラオ), which knows Aqua Jet and Uproar.
Shikijika (the previously revealed deer) is a Normal / Grass-type and has Chlorophyll as its ability. Its appearance changes according to the seasons: in the spring it is pink (like the Ken Sugimori artwork), in the summer it is green, in the fall it is orange, and winter's color is unknown.
Growth now seems to raise Special Attack and Attack by one stage.





Giruja (ギルジャ) is the Fish Pokemon, a Water-type, and has the Swift Swim ability. Its name comes from "giru," which means "gills." It can only be found when fishing. Its height is 0.4m and it weighs 5.0kg.
Hakubirisu (ハクビルス) is the Elegance Pokemon, a Water/Flying-type. It has a new ability called White Wing (しろいつばさ) - it lowers its stats but nullifies secondary effects of your opponent's moves. "Haku" is from "hakuchou," which is "swan" in Japanese. Its name may also derive from "hakubi," which means "the best." It stands 1.1m tall and weighs 28.6kg.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/shikijika-forms.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/shikijika-forms.jpg)Shikijika is the Seasonal Pokemon, a Normal/Grass-type (as revealed in the previous update), with Chlorophyll as its single ability. Shikijika changes in appearance with the changing of the seasons, as seen to the right: in the spring it is pink (like the official Ken Sugimori artwork), in the summer it is green, in the fall it is orange, and winter's color is brown. Its evolution is silhouetted next to it in the main scan below (and no, it's not Stantler!). It is 0.4m tall and weighs 5.0kg.
In the Shikijika scan, you can also see the terrain's color change depending on the seasons. There will be a new in-game season each month, meaning three a year.
Burokko (ブロッコ) is the Cauliflower Pokemon, a Grass-type, revealed last month as a toy (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/toys-reveal-a-new-pokemon). Its two abilities are Chlorophyll or Solar Power. It knows a new attack called Sprout Breath, which increases Special Attack and Accuracy. Its name comes from the English word "broccoli." It is 0.7m tall and weighs 24.3kg.
Mamanbou, Luvdisc's apparent evolution, is the Harem Pokemon, a Water-type, with Swift Swim as its ability. It knows a new attack called Aqua Twist. It is 1.8m tall and weighs 120.0kg. "Harem" refers to a group of females, so perhaps it is a gender-based evolution (assuming of course it is Luvdisc's evolution)?
http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/corocoro-aloe.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/corocoro-aloe.jpg)Aloe is the Gym Leader of Shippou City (シッポウシティ). The city could be named after a religious Buddhist term for the "Seven Precious Treasures," being Gold, Silver, Pearls, Agate, Crystal, Coral, and Lapis Lazuli. Some of these have been game namesakes to boot. It can also be named after "Cloisonne," which is enamel work ("enamelware in which colored areas are separated by thin metal strips"). So the city may deal in religion or art (or perhaps uses the metal from that religious term for the enamel work). Considering Aloe is wearing a big apron, she might be a cloisonne ware maker. But none of this is confirmed yet of course!
Speaking of which, an "aloe" is an African flower.
Double Battles in the wild occur only in the dark patches of grass, as shown in the screenshot in the bottom-right of the scan.

http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/corocoro-new-pokemon-clear.gif (http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/corocoro-new-pokemon-clear.jpg)

Guy
August 7th, 2010, 08:20 AM
^ Yeah, I believe it was proven that the the big blue fish and the broccoli was proven fake looking at the New Pokémon (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=228242) thread from yesterday in the B&W section. The rest are apparently confirmed to be real though - even the odd looking plant. ._.

I can see Iris getting Emonga as one of her Pokémon in the show, since it looks like this generation's Pikachu and the fact that Dawn had a Pachirisu. What would be a lot cooler IMO though is if Dento were to get it. At the same time, I'm still hoping they give Ash and Co. in Isshu a new variety of Pokémon and not just the same formula we've been getting since Kanto. Even though I'm sure they'll stick to the same kind of team Ash has been getting from the very start, I think it's possible they can really play around with the Pokémon given to Iris and Dento.

PearlShipper4Life
August 7th, 2010, 11:27 AM
Laddies and Gentlemen, Dento is in fact the first gym leader. Its confirmed on Serebii. Which makes me think, will get the Kanto days treatment for a bit. Yah know, Ash meets Iris travels with her the first couple of episodes to the first gym which we are introduced to Dento. I'd LOL If Iris turned out to be a gym leader tooXD But yah I'm thinking shey'll either have a new side quest or do nothing and just like to travel and be crazy. I'm looking forward to this series more and more :cool:

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Has any of you every seen Iris? Personally i think she is VERY demeaning to Pokemon. She is a crazy vine-swinging little kid that went to a tanning booth when she was 4. Then she hides her Pokemon in her HAIR. Seriously, soon Pokemon Freaks are going to start doing that. I bet Iris's hair is purple since algae grew on it and then got so dirty it turned purple. Plus she looks the youngest of all the female protagonists. What has Pokemon come to?

Well arent you being a blatant rascist? Brock's tan/black/hispanic/indian, and so is Iris. She's a wild girl eh? So is the Special Sapphire, and she is by far one of the best written Pokemon characters ever. They've always been young, get over yourself. Pokemopn is a kids show. it has a market for/of 7 years ago. Though, her hair is annoying, I agree.

Laddies and Gentlemen, Dento is in fact the first gym leader. Its confirmed on Serebii. Which makes me think, will get the Kanto days treatment for a bit. Yah know, Ash meets Iris travels with her the first couple of episodes to the first gym which we are introduced to Dento. I'd LOL If Iris turned out to be a gym leader tooXD But yah I'm thinking shey'll either have a new side quest or do nothing and just like to travel and be crazy. I'm looking forward to this series more and more :cool:

I think your being sarcastic (abhout Iris being a Gym leader), but as stated, SHE's ANIME EXCLUSIVE. and me too. I hope dento just shows up frequently rather than traveling wiith Ash. Also, Gym Leaders shouldn't be 10 year olds.

Shiny_Noctowl
August 7th, 2010, 12:30 PM
But remember on the beta art that was released a while ago, Ash was present along with Iris, and Team Rocket.

Also remember that Dento wasn't on the beta art.

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 12:36 PM
Also remember that Dento wasn't on the beta art.

OMG your right. Thank god... Maybe Dento's only getting coverage becuase, like Kanto, he'll get to the 1st Gym right away? That'd be great!!

Bluerang1
August 7th, 2010, 12:41 PM
No one said Dento was 10, if anything, he looks 14 x)

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 12:45 PM
No one said Dento was 10, if anything, he looks 14 x)

I actually think he looks 8 :/

PearlShipper4Life
August 7th, 2010, 12:53 PM
Just cuz he wasn't in the sketch doesn't mean he won't travel with Ash. Brock wasn't on it either and he's going bye-bye we all know that now. And some one needs to replace Brock, and the new guy Dento has all of the qualitys to do so. I think, there just trying to suprise fans with who will be replacing him.

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Just cuz he wasn't in the sketch doesn't mean he won't travel with Ash. Brock wasn't on it either and he's going bye-bye we all know that now. And some one needs to replace Brock, and the new guy Dento has all of the qualitys to do so. I think, there just trying to suprise fans with who will be replacing him.

I hope not. Im still not 100% sure brock will leave, pretty sure, but not definite.

I think if anything he'll travel with Iris and the Paul like Rival we've heard of

PearlShipper4Life
August 7th, 2010, 01:52 PM
I hope not. Im still not 100% sure brock will leave, pretty sure, but not definite.

I think if anything he'll travel with Iris and the Paul like Rival we've heard of

I understand why people are still thinking he might not, since he kept coming back. There are so many signs this time pointing to him leaving, I guess you need to see the posters before getting confirmation cuz there not gonna say he's leaving in info. I honestly don't see Ash new rival coming with him, he needs some one to battle every now and than like Paul.. Dento, he's a waiter and a gym leader, all the qualitys of Brock's replacement.

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 03:35 PM
I understand why people are still thinking he might not, since he kept coming back. There are so many signs this time pointing to him leaving, I guess you need to see the posters before getting confirmation cuz there not gonna say he's leaving in info. I honestly don't see Ash new rival coming with him, he needs some one to battle every now and than like Paul.. Dento, he's a waiter and a gym leader, all the qualitys of Brock's replacement.

it worked for Kanto, but it's cheasy here.

The reason I dont think Brock will leave, is that the episode says he'll make his descsion. I relly doubt he'd be willing to leave. Then again, we didnt get any art update for Brock, so who knows.

I just thought of something. Isshu is far away, does that mean Dawn/Brock wont come and visit!!? D:

I like it when they come back for an Episode or two .... :/

Guy
August 7th, 2010, 04:19 PM
Okay, I've been giving it some thought lately, and I'm just going out on a limb here with total speculation based on what we know so far.

I'll start with Iris. She's obviously the girl to replace Dawn this series. Going by that, it appears as though she's making her way to Prof. Araragi to select her starter. Even though it may be her first time becoming a Pokémon Trainer, she obviously knows a lot and likes the outdoors. Along the way she's befriended Kibago, her Dragon-type partner. Kibago is her partner, but apparently reaching the age of ten, she still gets to choose a starter of her own. By the looks of it and taking her background together, she may just select Tsutaja as her starting choice. It is a Grass-type therefore it's more connected to the natural areas like Iris herself. It's currently unknown if Contests will be in the anime, and with the games including something new (i.e Pokémon Musicals), they may follow up on that instead. Still, Iris' goal is unsure of and can very from being a Coordinator, a Pokémon Conductor (?), or a traveling friend like Misty turned out to be.

Moving on, we have Dento, who surprisingly turns out to be the first Gym Leader of Isshu. Honestly, I wasn't expecting this at all, so all my original ideas just gets thrown away. ): Though, following up on something new, I continue my speculation. Dento, based on his attire and possible out-going like personality, he doesn't seem to be the type to be a Rock-type Gym Leader. Therefore, this could possibly mean that he specializes in a different type. However, this also assures us he is Brock's replacement - a former Gym Leader upon leaving with Ash and Iris, an experienced trainer, a Pokémon Sommelier, and one who diagnoses the compatibility between trainer and Pokémon. He seems to fit the type, right? Although, I have a feeling he'll be doing more than just filling in Brock's shoes. He may actually fix the mistakes the writer's have done with Brock all these years and give him some kind of detailed importance. It's hard to pinpoint what he'll be doing exactly and what his new goal after leaving his gym behind will be, especially since we don't know Iris' goal either. Although, I think they'll definitely put more attention to him unlike they did to Brock - or at least I'm hoping the will. n_n;

Now, a completely optional speculation is on the second Gym Leader of Isshu, Aloe. Based on her name, it's possible she could specialize in Grass-type Pokémon. Now, based on her looks, she shares quite a few similarities between Iris. This being they have similar skin complexion, same hair color, and they both look tough. I don't know if you've caught on to where I'm going with this as yet, but I'm considering the fact that in the anime alone, Aloe could be Iris' mother. This would explain why Iris enjoys the outdoors so much and also give reason to why she really chose Tsutaja. It could also give earlier reflection upon her childhood on how she befriended Kibago. Plus, she needs some kind of mom, and Aloe seems perfect enough. Besides, it wouldn't be the first a friend of Ash's has a parent Gym Leader; first being May and Max.

As for Ash, it's pretty much assuring that he doesn't win the Sinnoh League, but most likely places Top 4. Plus, being included in the beta art, it means the writers still have plans for Ash. Like usual Ash will travel Isshu with his newly met friends. Along the way, he'll be introduced to new people, new rivals, new Pokémon, and new experiences. This never changes, but it gives us insight from the games into the anime and so on. Hopefully, they'll mix things up for Ash this generation if they're really wanting to make it better, but if not, then they still have Dento and Iris to play with.

... And, well that's it as far as my speculation goes. It's really long, and even though I tried not to make it so long, it ended up happening anyway. /sigh Though, this is what I've predicted based on what we know, but I'm sure some things will be different by the time Best Wishes begins and ends.

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Another second gym leader being Grass Type? Yuck ... Then again, considering all the Rock typed first gym leaders ...

I bet Dento is Normal type, he seems plain after all.

As for Aloe in the ANIME being Iris' mother, well, hnestly, I can totally see that happening. Darn it, Im agreeing with someone, thats against my poilcy and everything.

Shiny_Noctowl
August 7th, 2010, 05:21 PM
I heard that Dento's Japanese voice actor is Mamoru Miyano. Is this true?

Vernikova
August 7th, 2010, 05:35 PM
ANN thinks so but no one is going to be able to confirm it until a cast list comes out sadly. I hope we get a potato chip scene if it's true though.

Silver25
August 7th, 2010, 06:14 PM
So if Dento is the first gym leader (as stated in the games from what I hear) then Best Wishes will be like Kanto where they arrive at the first gym pretty early on as opposed to Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh where a good amount of episodes appeared before.

GFA
August 7th, 2010, 07:37 PM
So if Dento is the first gym leader (as stated in the games from what I hear) then Best Wishes will be like Kanto where they arrive at the first gym pretty early on as opposed to Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh where a good amount of episodes appeared before.

Yes, and its a step in the right direction if you ask me. Didnt they get to Flakner pretty quick? I honestly dont remember

Shiny_Noctowl
August 7th, 2010, 09:48 PM
ANN thinks so but no one is going to be able to confirm it until a cast list comes out sadly.

I actually couldn't find that anywhere on ANN; could you give a link? I heard it from somewhere else, which may or may not be reliable. But at least Dento sounds like Mamoru Miyano.

Vernikova
August 7th, 2010, 09:57 PM
I actually couldn't find that anywhere on ANN; could you give a link? I heard it from somewhere else, which may or may not be reliable. But at least Dento sounds like Mamoru Miyano.

It seems they removed it since it was just a rumor. It was there a few days ago though.

Shiny_Noctowl
August 7th, 2010, 10:43 PM
I also noticed that their page for BW still calls Dento "Reimu", though that rumor was proved false a long time ago.

Also, what are Dento and Prof. Araragi saying in the trailer? I found one with subtitles, but they were missing for Dento's and Araragi's lines.

Kirbychu
August 8th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Yes, and its a step in the right direction if you ask me. Didnt they get to Flakner pretty quick? I honestly dont remember
It took them quite a while to get to Falkner.

Fithboy
August 12th, 2010, 12:42 AM
It took them quite a while to get to Falkner.

Almost an entire series AND Ash didnt even battle him :( .

Silver25
August 12th, 2010, 12:54 AM
It took them quite a while to get to Falkner.

Yes, Kanto and the Orange Islands are the only regions where the group arrived at the first gym quickly.

Jorah
August 12th, 2010, 01:23 AM
Also, what are Dento and Prof. Araragi saying in the trailer? I found one with subtitles, but they were missing for Dento's and Araragi's lines.

Dunno what Dento said, but Araragi just said "douzo yoroshiku" which is usually translated as "nice to meet you". So, nothing interesting, then.

Mew~
August 18th, 2010, 03:00 AM
these teasers were shown during last weeks pokemon sunday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDGQDMKbjII

Bluerang1
August 18th, 2010, 05:22 AM
I heard that Dento's Japanese voice actor is Mamoru Miyano. Is this true?

Wiki says he is x)


these teasers were shown during last weeks pokemon sunday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDGQDMKbjII

And how did I miss that :surprised: Thanks though!

Silver25
August 18th, 2010, 08:09 AM
I somehow missed that too. Well, going off those last few ones with the starters I am now thinking either Ash will get all the starters, that he sees this new rival battle at the first gym like he did with Paul, someone else in the group is interested in gyms too, or lastly that since that is most likely Dento's gym he has 1 or 2 of the starters.

Guy
August 18th, 2010, 09:13 AM
these teasers were shown during last weeks pokemon sunday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDGQDMKbjII
I've noticed, a lot of these Pokémon have great contest appeal. Even though it's more than likely contests won't be in this new season (no confirmation on this as yet), all the Pokémon shown in the sneak peak previews have a great sense of style when showing off their moves. At least that's what I'm seeing anyway.

Bluerang1
August 19th, 2010, 04:43 AM
Irisgasm!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/GpIKhghdZhQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpIKhghdZhQ&feature=player_embedded) Why can't I post Youtube visa straight on the post anymore!!! :cer_pissed:

Oh my daze! She looks awesome! She ain't taking crap from Ash xD

Hmm, Dento's voice, he's not straight :\ Wait, is he the one who says "Diekan Kasukaré?"

Ash chooses Mijumaru. Dento says "Solar Beam", so he might be a Grass type Trainer. He does have green hair...

OMG! New Nurse Joys and Officer Jennys! :surprised: I keep adding stuff xD The new Joys are HOT! Jenny, not so much.

Who's the blonde guy though?

Guy
August 19th, 2010, 05:37 AM
The more I see Iris, the more I'm starting to like her. She seems like the type of girl that will have a very outgoing personality compared to May and Dawn. I'm interested to see her throughout the show and how her character develops. Dento is still amazingly cool. If he is the Grass Gym Leader, then props for Pokémon finally breaking the Rock pattern, and also props for giving someone else other than Ash teh grass-type starter. Ash getting Mijumaru (though it wasn't shown as his) I predicted. I hope that's the case.

New Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny. That's what shocked me the most. This thought came to mind before, like a few weeks ago, but knowing Pokémon I thought they would just use the same Joy and Jenny. Glad to say I was wrong. New Nurse Joy still looks fairly similar, but I like her new look. New Jenny looks cool. n_n

My bet goes that the blond hair kid is Ash's new rival. Seems to fit the Paul-like replacement well.

Myzou
August 19th, 2010, 07:13 AM
It definitely looks like Ash gets Mijumaru in that video. XD

I still expect Iris to be on a journey to find something/someone, and Dento being the Coordinator (or new music event thing) of the region, with the amount of spotlights we keep seeing on him. XD

For those too lazy to watch the video, images of the new jenny and joy in spoilers.

New Joy?
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9441/newjoy.png

New Jenny?
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8498/newjenny.png

The blonde haired guy is supposedly a photographer according to Serebii... Is it possible they'll be upgrading the traveling party to 4, one reminiscent of Brock AND Tracey, then Iris to fill in the spot Misty, May, and Dawn left?

Bluerang1
August 19th, 2010, 07:15 AM
The more I see Iris, the more I'm starting to like her. She seems like the type of girl that will have a very outgoing personality compared to May and Dawn. I'm interested to see her throughout the show and how her character develops. Dento is still amazingly cool. If he is the Grass Gym Leader, then props for Pokémon finally breaking the Rock pattern, and also props for giving someone else other than Ash teh grass-type starter. Ash getting Mijumaru (though it wasn't shown as his) I predicted. I hope that's the case.

New Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny. That's what shocked me the most. This thought came to mind before, like a few weeks ago, but knowing Pokémon I thought they would just use the same Joy and Jenny. Glad to say I was wrong. New Nurse Joy still looks fairly similar, but I like her new look. New Jenny looks cool. n_n

My bet goes that the blond hair kid is Ash's new rival. Seems to fit the Paul-like replacement well.

You have a valid point there mate. But he seems more lax. And do we get a Barry? We didn't in Advanced so i guess it's fine if we won't. But what about Cheren and Bel?

PearlShipper4Life
August 19th, 2010, 01:04 PM
I like the way Nurse Joy looks but holy crap Jenny's hair looks wow. Um yah I'm liking Iris character more and more and her interactions with Ash should be heck of fun. I'm sensing, Ash catches a water type this time and that Dento is a grass gym leader. Man I can't wait more and more for Best Wishes ack! Than again, maybe Ash catches all three starters like in the past :O

Gumball Watterson
August 19th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Iris gets more Kawaii the more I see her.


http://a.imageshack.us/img32/527/irisdemot0.png

Bluerang1
August 19th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Iris gets more Kawaii the more I see her.


http://a.imageshack.us/img32/527/irisdemot0.png

I just knew you'd use that shot. :laugh:

Joy!!! <3

Arargi's eyes are smexy =3

Kenshin5
August 19th, 2010, 04:51 PM
It definitely looks like Ash gets Mijumaru in that video. XD

I still expect Iris to be on a journey to find something/someone, and Dento being the Coordinator (or new music event thing) of the region, with the amount of spotlights we keep seeing on him. XD

For those too lazy to watch the video, images of the new jenny and joy in spoilers.

New Joy?
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9441/newjoy.png

New Jenny?
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8498/newjenny.png

The blonde haired guy is supposedly a photographer according to Serebii... Is it possible they'll be upgrading the traveling party to 4, one reminiscent of Brock AND Tracey, then Iris to fill in the spot Misty, May, and Dawn left?
The only thing that makes me think he is not with their party is it says he is competing in the Isshu League. It seems a little weird if two people were doing gym battles in the same party.

Vampire://Krimm
August 19th, 2010, 05:42 PM
After all these previews, I'm really stoked to watch the first few eps of the new series~ The whole new gang will hopefully bring some new life to the series.
*Q* DENTOOO <33

As for the new looks for Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny, I'm all for it! They look great and I think it's totally time. If anything I'm excited to see Ash's reaction to their new looks XD

It seems to me that their really going for the original vibe. I mean, even to the fact that Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny will be new and will bring up a conversation in the anime. Then meeting Dento... I wonder what his excuse will be for wanting to go with Ash and Iris~

Kirbychu
August 19th, 2010, 07:41 PM
I'm going to assume this Shooto guy is going to be the main rival. I expect Cheren and Bell to appear too, I think one could be Ash' rival and the other could be Dento's/Iris's

Jorah
August 20th, 2010, 02:54 AM
Dento *really* reminds of the boys out of Ouran Highschool Host Club. XD It looks like he's going to have a fun (hopefully slightly crazy) personality, so he's looking to be my favourite character so far. I hope Iris keeps the living-in-the-forest thing throughout the series, but I can see that fading as time goes on as she travels with Ash. I also have a horrible feeling any sort of attitude we see from her now is going to end up completely dead somewhere throughout the series, similar to Misty and Dawn's D:

I love the new Nurse Joy, although it looks like they've only updated her eyes and outfit, but I am really hating the new Officer Jenny D: The colour coordination with her hair and eyes is horrible D: She really reminds me of Aoi/Angie's design.

Mew~
August 20th, 2010, 04:05 AM
There have quite a few more teasers randomly airing, heres a few new ones tv tokyo uploaded onto youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaw-_Ix3Eew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt8Hd9AI_a0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9naFydWe_wU

PearlShipper4Life
August 20th, 2010, 08:48 AM
I'm going to assume this Shooto guy is going to be the main rival. I expect Cheren and Bell to appear too, I think one could be Ash' rival and the other could be Dento/Iris's


I'm hopping one of the girls is Ash rival too, he had two rivals last region he can have two this region. I think it'd be neat if he had a boy and a girl rival, it'd please every one this way :classic:

Netto Azure
August 20th, 2010, 12:26 PM
Wow, so they'll still be called Nurse Joy and officer Jenny?

I don't mind the changes really...they needed a revamp for over a decade now. 8)

zappyspiker
August 22nd, 2010, 12:40 AM
Dento *really* reminds of the boys out of Ouran Highschool Host Club.

Omg That's what I thought XD

I'm really loving Dento and Shooti! I hate to say this but they may soon over take my favorite Pokemon Anime character being Jimmy (From Pokemon Chronicles) or Sho.

Still can't wait for Shooti's photography awesomeness!

weedle_mchairybug
August 23rd, 2010, 01:17 PM
From what I've heard about the various promotional trailers, Ash has yet to make any appearance in the trailers. Because of this, as well as the fact that this period of absence has now exceeded the period of time that Ash had during the DP advertizing period, I can't help but feel that Ash might not even make it onto BW.

cyan.
August 23rd, 2010, 01:21 PM
omg, i love professor araragi! cant wait to see the official sprite for her!
i love all the new character designs! :)

PearlShipper4Life
August 25th, 2010, 08:26 AM
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPCIVk4tHw

Guess this confirmes Ash being in this series ^^
I'm sorry, I'm just trying to stop this debate.

solaris knight
August 25th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Why do people always make this assumption that they'll replace Ash at the beginning of each series? His friends leaving would make sense, but the series has always revolved around his adventure. The others are just along because they're heading in the same general direction.

Except for Brock. He could theoretically become a breeder anywhere, but he was a popular character, so they brought him back. And then they butchered him...

Amore
August 25th, 2010, 09:38 AM
That could be anybodys Pikachu!

It could even be Team Rocket's. :P

Naa...did you honestly think Ash wouldn't be in it?

Neelh
August 25th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Iris is going to be awesome, I can sense it.

Also, why is everyone complaining? If anyone read the Bionicle story, you'd see that at the start, there were loads of different personalities, and they were EXTREME. By the end, they were so faded, Tahu wasn't a hothead, Kopaka was more social, Gali... Uh... Stayed the same, but she didn't have that attitude. When people grow up, they mature, and their personality traits fade slightly.

weedle_mchairybug
August 25th, 2010, 02:52 PM
Well, if the trailer does indeed confirm that Ash is in BW (as in, he is seen interacting with the BW cast in some way), then I don't have any reason to doubt it anymore.

Seriously, though, it's not like they couldn't just leave an Ash appearance in the trailer for about a second, a small amount of time, and then keep the rest of the trailer focused on the new characters. I mean, by even allowing for him to appear for a second, it allows the new characters to get the focus that they deserve for pre-releases, and yet it confirms to everybody that Ash will be in BW. If they did that, then no one will even HAVE to question whether he is in BW.

And honestly, if new kids were to come in and Ash was removed, I doubt they'd even care. If they didn't even care if Misty, May, Max, Tracy, and Dawn were removed, why should they care if Ash is removed. As far as the new kids are concerned, he's just another character, and probably doesn't even exist, even IF he was the star of the anime. I mean, if Pokemon Special can remove even Red without any consequence, they can do the exact same with Ash. It's that simple, really.

Well, Ash is going to stay. I just hope that THIS time, they actually DEFINE the Pokemon Master goal absolutely.

Bluerang1
August 26th, 2010, 03:09 AM
BEST WISHESGASM!!!

PokeJungle (http://pokejungle.net/)

ASH LOOKS AWESOME!!! (Older?) I love his outfit, I can like him now :D (They actually show his eye colour now, the Colorers aren't lazy anymore xD

The 6th pic is a horrible shot of Iris, but she looks older than 10 :)

Link for clips. (http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/contents/pokemon_bw/movie/index.html)

Mew~
August 26th, 2010, 04:28 AM
What the heck did they do to Ashs eyes? O.O They've changed colour! His outfit looks great though!
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bestwishes_promo.jpg
Epiccccc^^^^^^^^
Woah, looks like they've made the CGI attacks look a little better too!
Im already starting to love this season!!!! I CANT WAITT ANY LONGER RAWR!

Lol, A wild iris appeared:
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1451/awildirisappeared.png

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7833/nnnnnnn.png
Dento has the brockili monkey :D Does this mean Dento has a Grass type gym?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/761/ttttttttttttg.png
This has to be proof has will get Mijumaru! Its going against Dentos pokemon and dentos a gym leader!!!

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5244/poorpikachu.png
Poor pikachu!

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6855/rferew.png
An actual Iron Tail? XD

Jorah
August 26th, 2010, 04:31 AM
My first reaction directly after looking at the middle picture: ...What the **** is with his eyes?? He looks like he's high or something. I realise that they've updated his look to go with the other characters, but...this is going to take some getting used to o.o His outfit is great though.

Since Ash's eyes have been "updated", I wonder what Team Rocket and the rest of the old cast are going to look like.

This scene amused me:

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3766/ashy.png

Mew~
August 26th, 2010, 04:45 AM
Okay so ive reviewed all of the promotional pictures, it looks like Ash will be catching mamepato (if thats how you spell it) and a mijumaru! He meets Iris in the woods where he sees her hair and thinks its a new pokemon so throws a pokeball at her (hence my sig XD) Apparently Dento is a fan of Ash? From pure opinion I think Iris is capture Pokebu and Dento will have Tsutaja (since its a grass type and it looks like hes a grass type gym leader!) oh we will also be seeing more of Ash with his cap backwords XD

Is it just me or has Ash gotten a tan? XD

Another trailer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMp1jNhPVno

Forever
August 26th, 2010, 04:57 AM
The poster reminds me of Digimon. :x

But wow, in the anime, ALL of the Generation 5 Pokemon are adorable <33333 I love Generation 5 so much omg.

Actually, I like Ash's eyes compared to Dento's, they just... look weird. Ash at least matches Iris's eyes. lol iris and eyes

mervyn797
August 26th, 2010, 05:13 AM
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5244/poorpikachu.png
I can envision Iris getting electrocuted. xD

From what I saw in the trailer posted by Mew~, I dont really like Ash's new cap. :P And yeah, Dento is a fan of Ash or what?

Tachibana Azumi
August 26th, 2010, 05:25 AM
M-My word! Miyano Mamoru (宮野真守) is casted to voice Dento?! Oh god am I pumped for Best Wishes now... ;3;

I guess that the moves animation have changed too, along with Satoshi's eyes (I will get used to it later, but this is just plain weird), seeing Volt Tackle and Iron Tail and all those other moves... Is that what people call CG?

DAYUM DAMN SATOSHI. YOU DO NOT COPY ME AND GET A MIJUMARU. ;A; It was ME first this time too... -weeps-

Bluerang1
August 26th, 2010, 05:28 AM
They're using emoticon faces now "><" "83" etc. I hope they don't go overkill. :\

Crystal Clair
August 26th, 2010, 06:01 AM
Here are HD pictures I captured.
http://img638.imageshack.us/g/vlcsnap2010082609h01m18.png/
Sorry, no Shooti. Not really crazy about him. Intriqued by his camera element though. I bet he'll be named Cameron in the dub.

Silver25
August 26th, 2010, 06:12 AM
I'm not a fan of Ash's new outfit. Looks like a running suit more than a jacket.

PearlShipper4Life
August 26th, 2010, 06:26 AM
I freakin love his new clothes, they look epic on him. And yes, Dento seems to be a fan of him, some thing tells me that's why Dento decides to travel with Ash LOL. It'd be funny if Dento kept fan boying him, being all "Oh my gosh, look at those awesome poses he does" HAHA I can't wait. And some thing also tells me that look Ash makes is after he sees Iris is not a Pokemon LOL and I have a feeling hey'll start laughing after seeing her hairXD Wonder if Ash and Iris will travel alone for three episodes? Hope so.

ekul123
August 26th, 2010, 07:43 AM
I can't wait! I also like ash's eyes now! (They were so dull before) also love his outfit!

Bluerang1
August 26th, 2010, 07:59 AM
Wasn't Dento just taking Ash's order. In an eccentric way...

Here are HD pictures I captured.
http://img638.imageshack.us/g/vlcsnap2010082609h01m18.png/
Sorry, no Shooti. Not really crazy about him. Intriqued by his camera element though. I bet he'll be named Cameron in the dub.

Nice one! They'll be great for graphic. Thanks! :)

joacen
August 26th, 2010, 08:36 AM
Does anyone have a color picture of Ash's new look in this series? I have seen the drawing and some other shots, but I'd like to see a full head-to-toe picture, if anyone has one.

thedestinedblade
August 26th, 2010, 09:15 AM
I really don't mind the "eye" change for Ash. The preview at the end of the episode and the clips on the website did show that he was throwing pokeball's left and right, lol. Mamepato seems like a given but it seems he was trying to capture a Shikijika as well, which I wouldn't mind if he caught. It does look like it'll be a lot more comedic. I'm excited to see how this series will shape out.

Mew~
August 26th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Wasn't Dento just taking Ash's order. In an eccentric way...
Yeah but just look at that facial exspression, he seems excited talking to Ash! It's not like anyone said he was asking for an autograph! He could be excited that hes actually taking an order from his idol or somthing? Then again, maybe it could be the other way round since Dento is a Gym Leader so hes probably acomplished more then Ash!?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2388/vlcsnap2010082609h04m36.png

Guy
August 26th, 2010, 09:29 AM
Does anyone have a color picture of Ash's new look in this series? I have seen the drawing and some other shots, but I'd like to see a full head-to-toe picture, if anyone has one.
From the post made earlier with higher quality screen shots, this is probably the best shot of Ash from head to toe with his new clothes. [link (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010082609h05m12.png/)] I don't mind his new clothes at all. Instead, I favor them more than the rest. Ash was always into red a majority of the time, so the new white vest and blue shirt fits him well. Pants isn't much different from his DP ones though. I like his new blue pack, his hat is okay for me, and his shoes are cool. Oh, and new gloves! That's great. n_n;

I don't mind his new eyes. At least we can see it's true color now. Overall though, new is a plus for me. :] He does look a bit older too. Though, I guess he needs to be without Brock around anymore - he's got to show he can handle himself around Dento and Iris, although I'm sure Dento will be doing most of the cooking and giving advice.

I really don't mind the "eye" change for Ash. The preview at the end of the episode and the clips on the website did show that he was throwing pokeball's left and right, lol. Mamepato seems like a given but it seems he was trying to capture a Shikijika as well, which I wouldn't mind if he caught. It does look like it'll be a lot more comedic. I'm excited to see how this series will shape out.
I agree. It did show a lot of Ash throwing Pokéballs around. It also appeared that not only might he have Mijumaru, but it's possible he might gain all three starters once more - though I wish for that to not happen. If Ash catches all three starters, then it leaves less room for him to capture more of the Isshu Pokémon out there. So, here's hoping Mijumaru is for Ash, Pokabu for Iris or Shooti. While Tsutaja is with Dento seeing as he's a Grass Gym Leader.

Ash catching a Shikijika for his Grass-type instead of a Tsutaja would be interesting I'll admit.

Omnis
August 26th, 2010, 09:46 AM
(I know all this has probably been posted anyway, but WHATEVER :3)

There was recently a trailer for Best Wishes, revealing a lot of things. First off, would be Satoshi's (Ash's) costume for the season.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/ff/Ash_BW.png

Yay for official stock art!

It's funny, I think his new hat is like a mix of his D/P hat and his old, original hat.

Secondly we have Pikachu using Iron Tail, which (unless it's a new move entirely) looks much different than what it used to be. Wider Tail, actually looks like it's made of metal and whatnot.

http://i37.tinypic.com/21bu5z.png

And finally, we have a bunch of images which may or may not spoil a lot.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2m4um41.png

For one thing, it looks like Dento (The guy with the green hair, who is also the first gym leader) has a Yanappu, one of the recently released pokemon. This being said, we can assume that Dento is a grass-type gym leader. Satoshi also seems to be turning his hat around again (kewl) which is something that ended around the Johto saga.

So after seeing these images, what are your thoughts?

thedestinedblade
August 26th, 2010, 09:54 AM
I agree. It did show a lot of Ash throwing Pokéballs around. It also appeared that not only might he have Mijumaru, but it's possible he might gain all three starters once more - though I wish for that to not happen. If Ash catches all three starters, then it leaves less room for him to capture more of the Isshu Pokémon out there. So, here's hoping Mijumaru is for Ash, Pokabu for Iris or Shooti. While Tsutaja is with Dento seeing as he's a Grass Gym Leader.

Ash catching a Shikijika for his Grass-type instead of a Tsutaja would be interesting I'll admit.

Yeah, it does appears from the clips that Mijumaru will at least be caught by him. I'd prefer if only got one starter as well for the same reason you mentioned. To me, it looks like Shooti will have a Tsutarja, as there is a clip of Pikachu battling one in what appears to be an alleyway. Also, the preview at the end of episode showed Shooti commanding for a move, then the next scene shows a Tsutarja using Grass Mixer. Then again I may be wrong and reading too much into it. :D

Storm_has_formed
August 26th, 2010, 12:42 PM
im liking the eyes! It looks like the series will be pretty fun again all around :)

D. Lawride
August 26th, 2010, 12:50 PM
Turning his hat around again? Nice! Ash is back into the business, I see! =D

I'm also liking his outfit: they managed to balance it out this time, especially with the same color scheme of his original one (I think).

Storm_has_formed
August 26th, 2010, 12:55 PM
Turning his hat around again? Nice! Ash is back into the business, I see! =D

I'm also liking his outfit: they managed to balance it out this time, especially with the same color scheme of his original one (I think).
i don't get why things like turning his hat makes so happy, but now i wanna start watching the show again

D. Lawride
August 26th, 2010, 01:08 PM
i don't get why things like turning his hat makes so happy, but now i wanna start watching the show again

It's probably nostalgia xD

In the Kanto saga, Ash had a number of habits such as turning his hat around whenever he threw a Pokéball (whether to catch or send out). It actually became his trademark movement around here, since he'd do that almost every time xD

rm2kdude
August 26th, 2010, 01:08 PM
I actually like this outfit, whatever happened to his original hat? he finally sell it? or leave it at home?

countryemo
August 26th, 2010, 01:40 PM
His new look looks incredibly awesome!! I feel i will be all over this show no matter what, i can not wait. to bad i have to -.-
Iron tail looks more metal now which is a grahic plus from the past season, (no suprise). i didnt see, but you guys are saying ash is turning his hat again. yes! seems like he will get mijumaru, i was hoping for pokabu or yea. me and ash kinda have a fav pokemon connection sometimes xD

its really a whole new place this time. new joys (or what they called) new jennys (ah not to fond of new look but hey) a photo person, like todd. they starting over, and looks like iris will kinda hate ash 9like misty) wow they really did rebirth the series. hopefully it dosent suck.

About his first hat who knows it could be like pikachus ball, he keeps it with him for good luck or yea. itll be cool if he takes it out this season for a episode to give it away to a small kid (=OO) or as a memory flash back. though the kid one sees likley.

i wonder how the new theme will be. hopefully not like the d/p. they were good but i hoping for more kanto/advanced/battle fronteir type.

Storm_has_formed
August 26th, 2010, 01:47 PM
it also looks like there will be no bike-frying introduction to the female lead! It looks like the way he meets her is more funny :D

Mew~
August 26th, 2010, 02:11 PM
it also looks like there will be no bike-frying introduction to the female lead! It looks like the way he meets her is more funny :D
The classic bike frying is a classic but I agree, the Iris's hair is a pokemon is much funnier! :D

Kirbychu
August 26th, 2010, 03:44 PM
I wouldn't say that Ash's eyes have changed color... If you look at the 8th Japanese opening at the very beginning you'll see that he's always had brown eyes when they zoom in real close, but man they are really defining them. But yeah, his eyes are usually black otherwise.
I really like the new outfit, but it will still take some getting use to. I'm really happy that they didn't just rip-off the main character's outfit like in DP. I like the new style of the anime in general. However, all the ugly Isshu Pokemon are kind of ruining it for me. :<

And I just can't see how you guys think that Dento is an Ash fanboy.

I actually like this outfit, whatever happened to his original hat? he finally sell it? or leave it at home?
Ash's mother is waiting patiently for her little boy to become a Pokemon Master so that she can eventually sell his hat and his other belongings. Why else would a parent let their 10-year old child run around in the wilderness alone?

Trigger
August 26th, 2010, 04:23 PM
I hope they do a 2010 revamp of Mezase Pokemon Master for the opening. EPIC ASH TURNING HIS HAT AGAIN!

"Shadow Lugia"
August 26th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Looks like Ash has a second game counterpart now:
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/Eman477/BWProtagonistBWAsh.png

Bloothump
August 26th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Yeah but just look at that facial exspression, he seems excited talking to Ash! It's not like anyone said he was asking for an autograph! He could be excited that hes actually taking an order from his idol or somthing? Then again, maybe it could be the other way round since Dento is a Gym Leader so hes probably acomplished more then Ash!?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2388/vlcsnap2010082609h04m36.png

I personally think Dento is taking Ash's order in this shot. I mean, the atmosphere is somewhat restauraunt-ish, and a lot of people have theorized that Dento is a waiter or somehow involved in the food industry.

Kirbychu
August 26th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Looks like Ash has a second game counterpart now:
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/Eman477/BWProtagonistBWAsh.png
You mean fifth? I always considered Ash to be the counterpart of each protagonist, since the ones in the anime don't seem to be fulfilling those roles.

At least he didn't completely copy his outfit like what he did to Lucas (Aside from the hat). If I had to list my favorite Ash outfits in order, it would be:

Hoenn
Isshu
Sinnoh - Kanto/Johto

"Shadow Lugia"
August 26th, 2010, 08:00 PM
You mean fifth? I always considered Ash to be the counterpart of each protagonist, since the ones in the anime don't seem to be fulfilling those roles.

At least he didn't completely copy his outfit like what he did to Lucas (Aside from the hat).
It's always seemed to me that a character in the anime has to physically resemble their game counterpart:
-Ash greatly resembles Red since Ash is based on Red
-Ash never resembled Gold/Ethan in my opinion aside from both having a cap
-Ash never resembled Brendan in any way in my opinion
-DP Ash sort of resembles DP Lucas, but I never saw the similarities aside from the pants
-BW Ash greatly resembles the BW Protagonist in my opinion since the outfits seem the to be exact same aside from color differences with the hat and jacket, along with Ash's jacket having shorter sleeves

Silver25
August 26th, 2010, 10:10 PM
I just noticed this, but isn't Mijumaru missing it's shell in this pic?
EDIT: I didn't notice it but it is holding it. I always thought it was on it's body, but I guess it can be taken off for shell blade. My bad :D

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5685/bestwishespromo.jpg

Bluerang1
August 27th, 2010, 03:55 AM
White is NOT Ash's counterpart!!! It's Red and always will be. Ash and White only have the same Pants and Trainers. And White is older... please don't do this to me.

Oh, it's the same thing with Lucas. Same Pants and Trainers. Also same Top Colour scheme but different styles. And hats are different.

mervyn797
August 27th, 2010, 04:16 AM
Man, all these trailers and images are making me excited!! I simply can't wait for Best Wishes and B/W as well.
Is it just me or do the pokemon of Isshu region look really cute? xD
I saw a few trailer clips and yeah, the CGI is really great. I mean, for example, Iron Tail looks absolutely lifelike with Pikachu's tail glowing like steel.

Mew~
August 27th, 2010, 05:14 AM
You mean fifth? I always considered Ash to be the counterpart of each protagonist, since the ones in the anime don't seem to be fulfilling those roles.

At least he didn't completely copy his outfit like what he did to Lucas (Aside from the hat). If I had to list my favorite Ash outfits in order, it would be:

Hoenn
Isshu
Sinnoh - Kanto/Johto

Well actually Gold/Jimmy/Ethan Made an appearence in chonicals and Brendan and Lucas made appearences in movies (well the introductions of movies!) Its only Red and the new guy so far!

Also, in the matter of clothes, anyone can wear the same thing from the same place... there not all offical one of a kind clothes :\ (Unless delia decides to made his new clothes like for his sinnoh outfit!)
White is NOT Ash's counterpart!!! It's Red and always will be. Ash and White only have the same Pants and Trainers. And White is older... please don't do this to me.

Oh, it's the same thing with Lucas. Same Pants and Trainers. Also same Top Colour scheme but different styles. And hats are different.
Well he could be! It's a far away place and all, Red is the only playable character who hasn't made an appearence in the anime, it could be the same for the new guy!

Also, his name isn't white... you'll have to wait for the manga to come out for his colour name or wait for the games to come out for his actual name (like brendan is ruby, Ethan is gold, lucas is diamond...)

joacen
August 27th, 2010, 06:45 AM
Thanks for the image, Hiiro. I really like Ash's new outfit, and apparently so does everyone else. It's kind of reminiscent of Ash's original outfit, in terms of color and design. And Ash is finally going back to turning his hat! Since Kanto, he has only done it on rare occasion, so that adds a nostalgic touch. This looks like a big step forward for the anime.

"Shadow Lugia"
August 27th, 2010, 07:59 AM
White is NOT Ash's counterpart!!! It's Red and always will be. Ash and White only have the same Pants and Trainers. And White is older... please don't do this to me.

Oh, it's the same thing with Lucas. Same Pants and Trainers. Also same Top Colour scheme but different styles. And hats are different.
It's always been possible for a game character to have more than one anime counterpart (Red has Ash and Ritchie), so it's fair to say that it's possible for an anime character to have more than one game counterpart.

Also, am I the only one that isn't seeing a big resemblance between DP Ash and D/P Lucas? :P

Kirbychu
August 27th, 2010, 09:47 AM
Well actually Gold/Jimmy/Ethan Made an appearence in chonicals and Brendan and Lucas made appearences in movies (well the introductions of movies!) Its only Red and the new guy so far!

I know that, in fact, I anticipate Black appearing in a pre-movie cameo as well but none of those characters are fulfilling the roles they have in the games. That's why I said that Ash is a better counterpart to them. Ash is doing everything for them. And we all know they only throw them in for fanservice anyways.

Guy
August 27th, 2010, 10:31 AM
I can see for any of the movies to come in this arc, it may just cameo both Black and White in battle like they did with Lucas and Brendon. At least they might, if the female protagonist isn't shown in the anime since Iris takes that role now.

I'm glad that Ash looks better in the clothes now, than he did in the beta art. Thought I'd mention that.

Chub 777
August 28th, 2010, 09:55 PM
I like the new clothing for Ash. It makes him look young, though...

Also, how does a girl carry around a 5-15 kg "rock" in her hair?

Darksun
August 29th, 2010, 09:37 PM
Ash looks cool. I like him more than his previous looks. His old eyes were boring IMO. Pikachu looks strong against Mamepato, which could mean Pikachu hasn't received a power reset to the same extent as the other regions.

Mew~
August 30th, 2010, 04:43 AM
I love how big this thread getting! :D BW ftw!~

Im really starting to love Iris she's awsome :3

Ya know somthing I don't think anyone has mentioned yet... Maybe Iris may have some connection to Zoroark? They do kinda resemble eachother in a few ways. Like their hair, both of their hair looks a bit the same and bushy, Also, if you look at the new movie staring zorua and zoroark, zorua likes to hang out in zoroarks hair the same way kibago likes to hang out in iris's hair!

countryemo
August 30th, 2010, 04:56 AM
that sounds interesting, this had been discussed before. i mean ash cant be the only one to have connections?!
like they suddley meet zoroark and shes in a trance or something like max and deoxys.

Also i would like a opion on this due to someones question about ash's 1st hat. We know about pikachus pokeball. do you think he still carries it around? maybe he'll mention it this saga, and maybe give it to a worthy boy, and then later they do a spin off featuring that boy? xD

also looks like pikachu didnt get a huge power reset

Kirbychu
August 30th, 2010, 10:04 AM
also looks like pikachu didnt get a huge power reset
We have less than 30 seconds of Pikachu battle footage to base that off. I'm going to have to see a bit more before I make that accusation.

Bluerang1
August 30th, 2010, 11:41 AM
I love how big this thread getting! :D BW ftw!~

Im really starting to love Iris she's awsome :3

Ya know somthing I don't think anyone has mentioned yet... Maybe Iris may have some connection to Zoroark? They do kinda resemble eachother in a few ways. Like their hair, both of their hair looks a bit the same and bushy, Also, if you look at the new movie staring zorua and zoroark, zorua likes to hang out in zoroarks hair the same way kibago likes to hang out in iris's hair!

I'm meant to say that. First you out-Iris-fanboy ADK7, now you out-say-my-thread-is-big me. Oh it's on T__T

On-topic, I like how we get new footage every Thursday now, with each DP episode. I wonder what we'll be seeing next. Maybe like for of Prof. Araragi and the starters, maybe not who gets what but more of their characteristics.

Mew~
August 30th, 2010, 01:57 PM
I'm meant to say that. First you out-Iris-fanboy ADK7, now you out-say-my-thread-is-big me. Oh it's on T__T
When I said the threads getting big, it was a good thing, as in, you made a sucessful thread and the fanbase of black and white must be getting bigger... its all good :D

Anyone else want to comment on my zoroark-Iris assumption?

Bluerang1
August 30th, 2010, 04:42 PM
I know what you meant, but I wanted to say it first :P

Then again, if I did, it'll be sad, 'coz I'm bigging up my own thread... so thanks! :D

Someone else has mentioned the Iris/Zoroark thing before, I don't see it.

Darksun
August 30th, 2010, 09:11 PM
Please, no more Zoroark talk. D:

It didn't happen with Takuto, it didn't happen with Darkrai and it won't happen with Iris (hopefully :p).

Guy
August 31st, 2010, 09:09 AM
Just like Lucario and all the talk everyone had about Ash getting one or it sharing this huge connection with Ash, it's starting again with Zoroark - this region's Lucario. .-. The hype for this Pokémon is just about similar now.

Guy
September 1st, 2010, 09:20 AM
Double posting because I can it's important.
Don't do this at home, kids. >_>;

Anyway, turns out that from the screen shot below, that Iris isn't actually an "anime-only" character like that earlier blog had everyone thinking. However, this could open up doors in the anime that there just might be more to Iris than we originally thought depending on her role in the game [seems important].

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/iris.png?t=1283315375

PearlShipper4Life
September 1st, 2010, 09:33 AM
I saw that, shocked me as heck still it would have been cool if she was an anime only character like Tracey but whatever. I'm still looking forward to Iris character, she seems like a fun one.

Mew~
September 1st, 2010, 12:51 PM
Im glad shes im the games and I hope we can battle her!~
On topic: Well maybe she will have some myserious background in the anime then? In the picture serebii says Iris and the other guy is telling White/Black about the Dragon/Dragons so maybe this means she may be smart as well as a Female Tarzan (or Jane if you wish xD)?

Vernikova
September 1st, 2010, 05:27 PM
People speculated that Dawn would have some connection with with Palkia and Dialga and they were wrong so I don't know why people are doing the same with new girl. I don't know why people can't understand that this won't be any different from previous sagas.

Kirbychu
September 1st, 2010, 07:31 PM
I don't know why people can't understand that this won't be any different from previous sagas.
I disagree, I think Iris will be looking for someone or something. Either way, I don't think we'll be having contests or anything similar. We can't make the accusation that it will be different, but you can't say it will be the same either. We just have to wait and see.

Mew~
September 2nd, 2010, 04:15 AM
Yay I get to post this first! :3
New preview!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKxdevVRmQ
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Forever
September 2nd, 2010, 04:37 AM
I viewed it just a while ago and from that... (assuming Pikachu is a boy), Tsutaaja is a female, thus most likely owned by Iris (was it ever confirmed that she owned one? idk). I just like the fact that we most likely know the gender of one of them (by using attract), or unless I completely misinterpreted. Which I'm sometimes likely to do. Of course, this is assuming that one of the main team owns Tsutaaja, which I think is pretty likely.

...either way they all look adorable. :D;

thedestinedblade
September 2nd, 2010, 05:27 AM
Mijumaru is confirmed for Ash. (No surprise) That Tsutaja in the clip could be Shooti's, or he could be battling a wild one. It did appear to be in a wild setting. Didn't really show any new footage of Pokabu so I'm still unsure on that one too.

Guy
September 2nd, 2010, 06:39 AM
Mijumaru looks feisty. That's awesome. n_n;

Even though it's no surprise that Ash gets Mijumaru, at least this preview confirms it. Which I must add, Bullet Seed looks awesome this season, and Mijumaru using its shell as a shield is quite the tactic there. Hopefully this goes to show that Ash is actually growing and not just resetting every time he starts off in a new region.

I say Iris may be the one to capture Tsutaja. I was thinking it would be Dento to have one, but by the look of things it doesn't seem that way anymore. As for Pokabu, my guess is that it belongs to Shooti.

@ Vernikova, I disagree with you. I think the writers, while they're trying to head back into their original roots, will still do things differently. Iris isn't like Dawn or May in which she is now starting her journey - that's pretty clear. She could be like Misty, but I think either way she's going to have more background story than the previous female characters.

Vernikova
September 2nd, 2010, 06:50 AM
I disagree, I think Iris will be looking for someone or something. Either way, I don't think we'll be having contests or anything similar. We can't make the accusation that it will be different, but you can' say it will be the same either. We just have to wait and see.


The writers haven't shown us anything to suggest that the next saga will be different. It's silly to get your hopes up there's nothing to suggest that there's anything to get your hopes up about.

Kenshin5
September 2nd, 2010, 07:28 AM
Just like it is silly to say that Brock won't be leaving because it is "yet" to be confirmed? There is nothing to suggest against Iris having a connection with the dragons either that's why it is "speculation".

@Hiiro
Bullet Seed does like pretty nice. I think they are giving a new look to all or many of the old moves, like they did with Iron Tail, which is a welcome change for me.

Vernikova
September 2nd, 2010, 07:37 AM
Just like it is silly to say that Brock won't be leaving because it is "yet" to be confirmed? There is nothing to suggest against Iris having a connection with the dragons either that's why it is "speculation".

It's silly to claim something without and evidence to back it up. There's nothing to suggest that he will be leaving yet people are saying it like it's a sure thing. Also, I didn't say that he was going to stay. The only thing I said is that there's nothing stating that he's going to leave 100%.