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Chad -
August 6th, 2010, 3:43 AM
Hey guys.

Is Ash going to remain the same 10 year-old kid the entire series? He did not change one bit. At least make him taller and change how he looks a little. That's my opinion, btw!

Do you guys think he should stay 10 or do you want him to age?

Dooonerz
August 6th, 2010, 3:59 AM
I think he should age, but not too much. I would like him to be like 14/15 :)

GFA
August 6th, 2010, 5:57 AM
Chill pills. its not Ash's fault, blame the writers

Ynfiniti8
August 6th, 2010, 6:24 AM
It's a kids show and probably always will be. So I doubt he'll age.

Chad -
August 6th, 2010, 6:40 AM
Chill pills. its not Ash's fault, blame the writers

You think I'm blaming a cartoon character? Of course, I blame the creators.

I'm sure it has been like 3 years or more for Ash's journey. So, I would like to see an older version of him..eventually.

imevil
August 6th, 2010, 6:42 AM
hes probally 15, but if he ages then it wont be a kids show anymore

weedle_mchairybug
August 6th, 2010, 11:45 AM
I don't think Ash not aging has anything to do with the fact that it is a kids show.

Most animated series don't allow aging for their characters, even if the animated series in question is clearly "adult."

For instance, in the Simpsons, which by no means is a kids show, does not have the characters age, or at the very least does it in a very slow motion.

Family Guy is another instance, only this time, only one literal instance of someone aging (not counting flashbacks) has occured on the show (That being Stewies birthday.).

Haowakeorden
August 6th, 2010, 5:29 PM
There's definitely an emotional difference, if you compare the earlier Indigo League episodes with the later Battle Frontier episodes. Emotionally, Ash has definitely matured since that first day. That's good enough for me.

PearlShipper4Life
August 6th, 2010, 6:29 PM
I'm fine with him being ten, as long as he's matured a bit. And each series Ash has matured ^^

Vernikova
August 6th, 2010, 6:45 PM
As long as he is the central character of the main characters, he should remain 10-years-old. End of discussion.

Spinor
August 6th, 2010, 6:55 PM
Let him age damn it, let someone else like... Gary, take the Simpson Pill for the kids. Or some alternate universe with a new trainer. I personally would like Ash better if he showed some sort of sign of aging. That's what's always been ticking me since Jotho.

Guy
August 6th, 2010, 7:11 PM
Let him age damn it, let someone else like... Gary, take the Simpson Pill for the kids. Or some alternate universe with a new trainer. I personally would like Ash better if he showed some sort of sign of aging. That's what's always been ticking me since Jotho.
Some would argue his change in voice would be a sign of maturity for Ash, but I'd beg to differ. I feel like it wouldn't hurt for the writers to acknowledge Ash as at least a couple years older since he started his journey. Actually, since he's been showing signs of growth in his battling style, the best factor to back up his maturity since Day One would be for him to age a little. I don't think it's necessary that he stays 10 forever. D:

Kirbychu
August 6th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Some would argue his change in voice would be a sign of maturity for Ash, but I'd beg to differ. I feel like it wouldn't hurt for the writers to acknowledge Ash as at least a couple years older since he started his journey. Actually, since he's been showing signs of growth in his battling style, the best factor to back up his maturity since Day One would be for him to age a little. I don't think it's necessary that he stays 10 forever. D:
I agree. If they really wanted to, I'm sure they could get away with saying "Ash, you're 13 now." without really changing anything.

Noka
August 7th, 2010, 5:52 AM
I think they should change his age at least a little bit; it's...creepy to know that the same kid you've been watching for years hasn't changed a bit in appearance.

I actually have a rather inane theory about how Ash got a hold of the equivalent of the fountain of youth.

Darthbane2007
August 8th, 2010, 3:13 AM
To me, 10 years old is a BS age. You mean to tell me you can look at Ash/Gary/May/Dawn and tell me that they are 10 years old by the way they look and carry themselves?

GFA
August 8th, 2010, 6:00 AM
Before the 3rd movie they said he was 11. So for every 3 movies make him a year older. He's 14 and Brock's 19 and May's the world's bustiest 12 year old

Semidos
August 8th, 2010, 8:39 AM
He should age every generation. I mean 1 generation - 1 year. By that logic he should be 14 now.

WonderGirl
August 8th, 2010, 9:05 AM
It's incredible that The Pokémon Company never thinks to make him older. I agree with Semidos by the way. Seems logic to me.

Galukxy
August 8th, 2010, 9:12 AM
Actually he has aged in the movies and in personality :P
in the Pikachu special movies the pichu brothers one, he celebrated his and pikachu's anniversary when they first met and they first met on Ash's 10th birthday. So of course he has aged..

RivalGator
August 8th, 2010, 9:12 AM
He should age every generation. I mean 1 generation - 1 year. By that logic he should be 14 now.

I agree with you. That's similar to what I was going to suggest... Just age him every time he enters a new region. That way it would be more believable. A lot more fun to compare the new and old. Ash needs to mature.

Better yet, Ash has been around for a very long time now. I mean, c'mon. Even Gary has given up his Pokemon quest to be a professor like his grandpa. I think Ash needs to mature and choose something to do with his life or hurry up and 'catch 'em all' so a new hero can emerge. We've seen Cal and Kris, we need to see more of them. I feel like they are definitely neglected because Ash simply will not grow and change and finally find his place in the world. They could do a LOT more with those other characters instead of focusing on Ash and freezing him completely in time.

Masterge77
August 8th, 2010, 9:36 AM
It's as if he is in some sort of time-space rift that is keeping him 10 forever

If they want him to age, they should do a time-skip, like Naruto did, and with the time skip, make it darker and edgier, also like Naruto did........

Bluerang1
August 8th, 2010, 10:16 AM
I thought this'll be locked already because:
Chill pills. its not Ash's fault, blame the writers
^_^

But this:
Let him age damn it, let someone else like... Gary, take the Simpson Pill for the kids. Or some alternate universe with a new trainer. I personally would like Ash better if he showed some sort of sign of aging. That's what's always been ticking me since Jotho.
Makes sense. Like, the Simpsons pull this way better than Pokemon as they're not on a journey. Since as is on a journey he needs to progress on every aspect.


Some would argue his change in voice would be a sign of maturity for Ash, but I'd beg to differ. I feel like it wouldn't hurt for the writers to acknowledge Ash as at least a couple years older since he started his journey. Actually, since he's been showing signs of growth in his battling style, the best factor to back up his maturity since Day One would be for him to age a little. I don't think it's necessary that he stays 10 forever. D:
Yeah, I thought his voice was meant to be a sign as well :\

Actually, after reading this:
He should age every generation. I mean 1 generation - 1 year. By that logic he should be 14 now.
I see why he hasn't aged. 14 is too extreme for a kids show. 12/13 however, is perfectly fine.

To me, 10 years old is a BS age. You mean to tell me you can look at Ash/Gary/May/Dawn(to an extent) and tell me that they are 10 years old by the way they look and carry themselves?
Word.

GFA
August 8th, 2010, 10:26 AM
But if he ages, hanging out with 10 year olf girls would get, well, predatory

Neelh
August 8th, 2010, 11:49 AM
The target audience can identify more with a 10-yr-old kid more than a 19-yr-old THING!

La Foudre
August 8th, 2010, 12:31 PM
I think that he should be older, but not any older than 15. It's just, they've been traveling for way more than one year, so he really shouldn't be 10. Even I was confused by this when I was little.

Kirbychu
August 8th, 2010, 7:18 PM
Actually he has aged in the movies and in personality :P
in the Pikachu special movies the pichu brothers one, he celebrated his and pikachu's anniversary when they first met and they first met on Ash's 10th birthday. So of course he has aged..
It's not uncommon for years to past in cartoons without the characters aging a bit. Ash has probably been traveling for 4 to 5 years.

weedle_mchairybug
August 9th, 2010, 1:34 AM
Actually he has aged in the movies and in personality :P
in the Pikachu special movies the pichu brothers one, he celebrated his and pikachu's anniversary when they first met and they first met on Ash's 10th birthday. So of course he has aged..

Yeah, except both the official Japanese AG and DP websites mentioned that Ash and May, and Ash and Dawn, respectively, are the same age, indicating that Ash is 10, due to May and Dawn being 10 as well.

Haowakeorden
August 9th, 2010, 6:03 PM
Yeah, except both the official Japanese AG and DP websites mentioned that Ash and May, and Ash and Dawn, respectively, are the same age, indicating that Ash is 10, due to May and Dawn being 10 as well.
For now, I'm considering that to be an oversight on the writers'/translators' part, since (at least in the English dub). It's obvious that it's impossible for both viewpoints to be completely correct.

Anna
August 11th, 2010, 6:03 PM
I think Ash should be aging every 3 seasons- it goes hand-in-hand with his and Pikachu's anniversary before movie 3. It makes sense and is a slow enough progression that it doesn't seem too weird.
And May=10... ohh, I have problems with that one. I personally have a great figure, and there is no way that a 10-year-old has a better body than me! Any 10-year-old with that size chest would actually be pretty chubby. 14 she could get away with, 12 would be stretching it, 10... no way.

shininglatios217
August 11th, 2010, 6:08 PM
From what I have read at Bulbapedia, it ages in the Japanese version. Is the American one that has the "forever 10" problem.

weedle_mchairybug
August 12th, 2010, 4:24 AM
From what I have read at Bulbapedia, it ages in the Japanese version. Is the American one that has the "forever 10" problem.

The problem is that even the Japanese version hints that they are ageless. For example, those AG and DP websites that listed that, respectively Ash and May, and Ash and Dawn were the same age (ie, 10)? Those were the Japanese Websites.

Plus America also has Ash and Co. "Aging" when the Japanese version didn't (Ash's statement about how it's been a year since they stopped at Viridian City in "The Battle of the Badge" comes to mind).

TheFuturePokemon
August 12th, 2010, 5:13 AM
Ash cant be 15 or else it wont be a kids show anymore, maybe something a little closer like maybe 12/13. I also thought that the change in ash's voice might consider him to be older.

weedle_mchairybug
August 12th, 2010, 5:17 AM
Ash cant be 15 or else it wont be a kids show anymore, maybe something a little closer like maybe 12/13. I also thought that the change in ash's voice might consider him to be older.

How does it being a kids show have anything to do with Ash not aging? I mean, the Simpsons and Family Guy do not really have the characters age, and those are grown up shows.

CptnSmonge
August 12th, 2010, 9:37 AM
Golly, I must be the only person who believes that he has noticeably aged since the first episode. I'd say he's at least fifteen by now. He's gone from being impulsive and obnoxious to being albeit a bit tactless but also more restrained and patient.

Here's a thought, though. Has anybody else felt that the show has gradually been focusing less and less on Ash's character and more on just taking a bunch of different adventures and acting them out through him rather than by him?

Owl
August 12th, 2010, 10:11 AM
Hopefully he will somehow start to age, I mean he looks exactly the same D:

wobbadude1
August 12th, 2010, 12:01 PM
I think maybe he doesn't celebrate birthdays and if he does he doesn't show it on screen. He must have aged though- his voice has broken!