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Chad -
August 25th, 2010, 01:17 PM
What do you think of the battling so far in the anime? Do you think they are weak and need more 'juice' or are they intense enough?

EDIT: By juice, I mean better animation and more 'action'.

Vernikova
August 25th, 2010, 01:30 PM
If by "more juice" you mean better animation than yes it does. The CGI in some attacks is terrible, I dislike the background (The color thing that's supposed to show that they're moving), and when they use stock footage. At least on movie budget is what I'm saying.

It won't happen anytime soon but there it is.

Mew~
August 25th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Well I really found Ash and Pauls battle in the Sinnoh League very intense! I don't make think they need any "juice"! Ya know what they say... "Don't fix whats not broken!"

I know what you mean by the CGI verkinova and I agree with some of it but I do like it with some attacks like bubble! I don't like how Piplup uses Hydro pump though :\

okjoek
August 25th, 2010, 05:49 PM
I think they might be either too predictable now... oooor the same attacks are getting old. Could be either or both or just a number of things. However in a battle against some serious enemy like hunter j (hahaha dead!) or paul, thats what gets your blood racing!

Gym battles give somewhat of a thrill but I think the higher the stakes the more intence the battle.

Azumi
August 25th, 2010, 07:04 PM
I recall that the beginning of the battle between Paul and Barry, Skarmony was sent out to use spikes and then got one-hit K.O.ed by Magmortar. Sure, you're proving that Magmortar is strong and has a type advantage, but this is just wrong. Can't there be a little more fighting before it goes down?

Either the producers were trying to save budget for the three-parter, they're trying to end the battle, or they're just plain lazy. :/

Recluse
August 26th, 2010, 12:28 AM
They're a lil bit too predictable imo... The last Ash vs. Paul battle was different - I thought Paul crushes Ash with ease, but when Pikachu, Gliscor and especially Infernape took the main role, then I knew that Ash would win. Infernape vs. Electivire battle was epic, but predictable - of course the creators had to make a real deal about this battle...

Quisling
August 26th, 2010, 04:49 AM
The animations for the attacks needs improving a bit and more emphasis on them. As for the battles themselves, they aren't too bad, and Ash vs. Paul's one was pretty intense.

I just hope they will fix some animations in the fifth generation.

Hiroshi Sotomura
August 26th, 2010, 05:24 AM
Now that the thread's title got your attention, time to homerun the point:

Has anyone noticed the lack of damage a Pokémon in the anime has been taking lately? I couldn't help but notice as the Shin'ou League played, because if you rewind to Kanto (or even as recent as Advanced Generation, though it isn't as serious) Pikachu deals so much damage that you'd expect some serious injury. But nope, in the final episodes of DP, you can see that every Pokémon in battle literally is knocked out of battle without a single wound on them.

Or look at his Charizard - through the series you see it get scathed, smashed, and "bloody". His new tank, Infernape, doesn't even get the same amount of damage and it's beat up heaps.

Cut the "it's always been a kids show" crap; the anime's obviously getting less violent.

Vernikova
August 26th, 2010, 09:25 AM
Who cares if they have scratches or not? They can get all of the scratches they want but if the battle doesn't look good then it would just be stupid.

mervyn797
August 27th, 2010, 05:02 AM
Yes, I'll have to agree that battles in Sinnoh aren't really that intense. It's done the same way for all battles- nothing seems realistic. And the bruises, lol wait, I never noticed that. xD But yes, Hiroshi is right on that one. :P Pokemon battles lately are less violent than they used to be earlier. I still remember Ash battling Bulbasaur to capture him, for example. He just for fried by Pikachu's thunderbolt with bruises all around.
But now a days, the ones who get seriously injured are only the Team Rocket trio. xD

Charmander_004
August 27th, 2010, 09:03 PM
I also think they need a little more spice, but i havent watched much of the latest seasons. Also there's been some very lame episodes where nothin really interesting happens, don't you think? But I do remember and cant forget about the battles on the Johto league, I'm sure they are one of the best around.

PlatinumDude
August 27th, 2010, 09:14 PM
The battles are intense enough for me, especially the Gym leader/Elite 4 battles.

Roughsponge
August 28th, 2010, 01:21 PM
I think the battles are more intense than ever :)

I mean, compare the battles between the Kanto & Sinnoh sagas; the animation & strategy of battles has improved a lot since then. In Kanto, battles consisted of just using moves and power to win, with barely any strategy to it; whereas now there is more emphasis on how the pokemon uses attacks and each pokemon's unique abilities.

Bluerang1
August 28th, 2010, 02:05 PM
Speaking of lack of damage, I want to see a bleeding Pokemon.

Concerning this thread, compared to the game moves, I think the battles are brilliant enough :)

Vernikova
August 28th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Speaking of lack of damage, I want to see a bleeding Pokemon.
Does this count as bleeding for you?

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae279/Survive_Vent/farfetchdbleeding.png

MrAPT1
August 28th, 2010, 11:53 PM
I personally think the battles are fine except for the damage concept and the pokemon not getting wounds, but there is one thing that aggravates me. The fact that despite how powerful a move a pokemon uses, the battlefield doesnt get damaged at all. Hell a pokemon can use dig and the hole will magically disappear. If I see a pokemon get smashed into the ground, or see one knocked into a wall or there's an explosion, I want to see some cracked ground, walls and craters that actually stay there. Without them it makes pokemon battling not dangerous at all, when in reality it is, as there are a huge number of things that can go wrong, but then again this is aimed towards small children so of course they arent going to show the danger in the battles. Eh, I guess I just prefer the way Special handles the battles more, but my point still stands.

Weeaboo Name
August 29th, 2010, 04:52 AM
I don't think the battles are too great to be honest, that's why i much prefer the episodes in between gym battles and tournaments.

Jorah
August 29th, 2010, 05:05 AM
Cut the "it's always been a kids show" crap; the anime's obviously getting less violent.

I agree that the battles have became less "graphic" in terms of the wounds that Pokemon receive, but I actually think the battles themselves are slightly more violent than they used to be. The Pokemon are thrown around much more often, smashed into walls more often, they seem to use more close range powerful attacks etc, there just seems to be very little scratches or scuffs in comparison. The only violent thing I can think of that they probably would never reiterate in the series is when Ash imagined his Metapod being chopped in half. :S