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badalcristiano
September 10th, 2010, 09:59 AM
Well, how does a normal user such as myself post blogs? Can I post blogs? Or do I have to be a moderator or something to have a blog? If I can how do I?

Guy
September 10th, 2010, 10:39 AM
To have a blog, you have a few options.
- Become a PC Supporter by donating. More information here [link (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=25461)]
- Obtain 5000 posts (without spamming the forums of course)
- A higher staff can also give you blog permissions within reason
- Become a moderator

badalcristiano
September 10th, 2010, 11:00 AM
To have a blog, you have a few options. - Become a PC Supporter by donating. More information here [link (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=25461)]
- Obtain 5000 posts (without spamming the forums of course)
- A higher staff can also give you blog permissions within reason
- Become a moderator

Why have these limitations?

Dixie Kong
September 10th, 2010, 11:12 AM
Think about it-- would you think it's fair for some random noob that just joined to automatically have a blog? The blog page sure would be spammy. And it would give leeway to troll blogs. It would just get ~nasty~ really. Think of a blog as a reward for meeting one of those requirements.

I imagine there might be some technical reason for this as well, but I'm just using my wit here.

badalcristiano
September 11th, 2010, 10:18 AM
Well, for starters, to prevent noobs/spammers/trolls. You could make maybe a 50 or 25 post requirement to blog

Avey
September 11th, 2010, 10:25 AM
Well, for starters, to prevent noobs/spammers/trolls. You could make maybe a 50 or 25 post requirement to blog

You don't suddenly become mature when you're legally recognised as an adult, just as you don't suddenly turn from troll/spammer/'noob' to contributive member at the stroke of a post count. There are trolls and 'noobs' with thousands of posts on this forum; a post restriction won't stop that.

badalcristiano
September 11th, 2010, 10:26 AM
You don't suddenly become mature when you're legally recognised as an adult, just as you don't suddenly turn from troll/spammer/noob to contributive member at the stroke of a post count.
Well, yes but if the person has to post so many times, the person has to put in effort and thus preventing spambots, etc.

Team Fail
September 11th, 2010, 10:26 AM
Well, for starters, to prevent noobs/spammers/trolls. You could make maybe a 50 or 25 post requirement to blog

Well, posting here isn't that hard. I can get 10-20 posts per day if lucky. I like these requirements- it shows you have a dedication to the site.

Avey
September 11th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Well, yes but if the person has to post so many times, the person has to put in effort and thus preventing spambots, etc.

Except that I've never heard of a script being written for a spambot to blog things. Not to mention spambots only represented 33% of the posters you mentioned, which means you're leaving out trolls and 'noobs'. Not liking the logic here at all; my point's still valid.

Trigaradon
September 11th, 2010, 11:03 AM
Think about it-- would you think it's fair for some random noob that just joined to automatically have a blog? The blog page sure would be spammy. And it would give leeway to troll blogs. It would just get ~nasty~Then only revoke blogs for those who abuse blogging.

Avey
September 11th, 2010, 11:05 AM
Then only revoke blogs for those who abuse blogging.

That's like saying, 'alright, I want all the higher staff to go through everyone's posts every twenty-four hours and ban whoever happens to be spamming.' Not only is that a ridiculous system, it's too time-consuming and would just make the blogging interface look like a mess. Also I'm not sure if the server would be able to handle so many people suddenly being able to blog.

Owl
September 11th, 2010, 11:06 AM
Then only revoke blogs for those who abuse blogging.
That would be to much of a hassle for the Staff. At least in my opinion.

badalcristiano
September 11th, 2010, 11:10 AM
Have mods for blogs. Their job is like for normal mods, to check posts, for them to check blogs

Avey
September 11th, 2010, 11:12 AM
Have mods for blogs. Their job is like for normal mods, to check posts, for them to check blogs

Or we could go with the system that we have now that works, instead of making a transition to something that'll most likely create drama due to suspended bloggers claiming the 'blog moderators' have no fair case to stop them blogging and they're just being bias.

JakeyBoy
September 11th, 2010, 11:16 AM
If I might interject... (http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=56)

Since when did the staff have to do anything anyone tells them? They can do as they please, it's their money paying for this place. Of course, there are donors, but they get a little something in return.

badalcristiano
September 11th, 2010, 11:21 AM
Its just putting a system similar to the one in place for moderators of forums.
You're saying people don't appeal against mods for infracting them?

Avey
September 11th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Its just putting a system similar to the one in place for moderators of forums.
You're saying people don't appeal against mods for infracting them?

To determine who deserves blogging privileges isn't as subjective as infractions are.

Astinus
September 11th, 2010, 11:35 AM
You're saying people don't appeal against mods for infracting them?
They do. It's just way more hassle than the system we already have in place. Why create the drama that might arrive because a moderator suspended a person's blog when the way we have things set up now avoids drama all together? (This is the first time I've really seen someone challenge the blog stipulations since they were introduced.)

Having a blog here isn't a right. It's a privilege here on PC. As JakeyBoy pointed out, there are other sites that allow you to create a blog without any stipulations. Join there and blog all day long and advertise it in your signature. Go to another forum that allows you to make a blog whenever you want. But as for PC, having blogs set as rewards is what works for this forum, and people have accepted that. It makes things easier on staff. It makes those with blogs feel special because they did something to deserve the blog, whether it's donating money, time, or having something interesting to say to the forum.

Pretty much, it's just easier to prevent storms than to deal with them. In other words, it's better to have stipulations for blogs than to have people abuse the privilege and possibly revoke the entire system for everyone involved. With how things are now, blogs are considered a nice addition to the forum instead of some blight that creates tension.

badalcristiano
September 11th, 2010, 12:48 PM
This thread was not at first intended for me to try and change it, but it just lead on.

Either ways, you don't have to revoke someone's blog, etc.
You can just infract them if their blog is spamming/trolling

jigglyppuff8
September 11th, 2010, 01:02 PM
Why have these limitations?

Because the people who have blogs on this site should be very active members. Donating, getting 5,000 posts, a staff position, or special recognition should be proof of that.

Astinus
September 11th, 2010, 01:48 PM
You can just infract them if their blog is spamming/trolling
Sure, we could, but it's still easier for the staff to keep an eye on members before they get a blog to see who spams or trolls. But once a member gets 5000 posts/donates/becomes moderator/gets special permission, then pretty much 99.9% of the time, they aren't going to troll/spam the blog.

It's a preventive measure. Makes things easier. And those who use the blogs get their actual posts noticed instead of someone making spammy posts just because they can.