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PearlShipper4Life
September 23rd, 2010, 12:03 PM
Well the Best Wishes thread was close cuz Best Wishes already started, some one suggested to make a speculation thread for the up coming episodes or Pokemon. So, got a speculation post here k?

Vernikova
September 23rd, 2010, 12:18 PM
I speculate that:



Ash will not win the Pokémon League
No other goals that a main character may have, if any, will come to be a reality if it is tournament or master based (Become a Pokémon Master, Grand Festival winner, etc)
Pikachu will learn at least one new move
All of the Openings will be terrible as will the Endings
Team Rocket will still be annoying asses and the only thing that change about them is their Pokémon
The new rival will be a mix of Gary and Paul and have terrible Pokémon along with a terrible personality
This series will suck and the hype surrounding it will fade away and people will realize how bad it is

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
September 23rd, 2010, 05:52 PM
It will be different from the rest, the legendaries will appear more, Team Plasma will appear and overshadow Team Rocket eventually...

nSpire
September 23rd, 2010, 05:59 PM
I speculate that:



Ash will not win the Pokémon League
No other goals that a main character may have, if any, will come to be a reality if it is tournament or master based (Become a Pokémon Master, Grand Festival winner, etc)
Pikachu will learn at least one new move
All of the Openings will be terrible as will the Endings
Team Rocket will still be annoying asses and the only thing that change about them is their Pokémon
The new rival will be a mix of Gary and Paul and have terrible Pokémon along with a terrible personality
This series will suck and the hype surrounding it will fade away and people will realize how bad it is


man your a mind reader.

i completely agree with this quote.

Neelh
September 24th, 2010, 10:05 AM
I speculate that:



Ash will not win the Pokémon League
No other goals that a main character may have, if any, will come to be a reality if it is tournament or master based (Become a Pokémon Master, Grand Festival winner, etc)
Pikachu will learn at least one new move
All of the Openings will be terrible as will the Endings
Team Rocket will still be annoying asses and the only thing that change about them is their Pokémon
The new rival will be a mix of Gary and Paul and have terrible Pokémon along with a terrible personality
This series will suck and the hype surrounding it will fade away and people will realize how bad it is


When I read this post, it made me MAD.

People can't accept that the reason Pokemon isn't fun for them anymore is because they're not a part of the target audience!

Bluerang1
September 24th, 2010, 11:12 AM
I hope Kibago doesn't evolve. I luff it <3

Speculation...Team Rocket steal one of the gang's Pokemon, for a long while or even permanently.

yossarian
September 24th, 2010, 11:57 AM
Ash will catch two of the starter pokemon
Aside Pikachu, all but one of his Pokemon will be fully evolved
There will be one gym where Ash needs two attempts to win a badge
There will be an episode devoted to Ash directly trying to teach one of his pokemon an attack
At least two of Ash's Pokemon will be given/follow him and not caught
There will be a couple of episodes where Team Rocket and Ash will have to work together
There will be absoutely no references made to either Brock, Misty, May or Dawn during the entire series
Ash and Iris will constantly bicker and Dento will have to act as mediator
A pokemon in the main group will feel unwanted and run away only to have a change of heart by the end of the episode
An episode where one of the main pokemon will get suddenly ill with no Pokemon centre in sight
He will only recruit one of his older pokemon for the championships
Ash will get to the Semi's again


More to follow....

Vernikova
September 24th, 2010, 12:21 PM
When I read this post, it made me MAD.

People can't accept that the reason Pokemon isn't fun for them anymore is because they're not a part of the target audience!

Just because I say something bad about the animé, which I like, I hate the franchise?

mervyn797
September 24th, 2010, 05:37 PM
When I read this post, it made me MAD.

People can't accept that the reason Pokemon isn't fun for them anymore is because they're not a part of the target audience!
What Vernikova has stated here is actually the sad truth about the Anime. Haven't you been observing this pattern of events all over? It is the bitter truth but I agree with it completely.

M. Dent
September 24th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Speculation...Team Rocket steal one of the gang's Pokemon, for a long while or even permanently.

This could be quite true, they seem to be a bit different.


Ash will catch two of the starter pokemon
There will be one gym where Ash needs two attempts to win a badge
At least two of Ash's Pokemon will be given/follow him and not caught
There will be absoutely no references made to either Brock, Misty, May or Dawn during the entire series
He will only recruit one of his older pokemon for the championships
Ash will get to the Semi's again


More to follow....

I agree with the italics and disagree with bold.
I think that both Dawn and Brock will appear at some point. It's already been stated on Bulbapedia that Brock now wants to be a Pokemon Doctor so he's gonna come in an episode and explain what that is and how he plans to become one

Vernikova
September 24th, 2010, 06:17 PM
Speculation...Team Rocket steal one of the gang's Pokemon, for a long while or even permanently.

Isn't it supposed to be a fast paced series? If so, why would the writers waste their time with a sub-plot like that? Wouldn't they want to keep things moving along instead of having a chase saga where Ash and co. try to get their Pokémon back?

ManhattanTheStarr
September 24th, 2010, 06:32 PM
I speculate that:



Ash will not win the Pokémon League
No other goals that a main character may have, if any, will come to be a reality if it is tournament or master based (Become a Pokémon Master, Grand Festival winner, etc)
Pikachu will learn at least one new move
All of the Openings will be terrible as will the Endings
Team Rocket will still be annoying asses and the only thing that change about them is their Pokémon
The new rival will be a mix of Gary and Paul and have terrible Pokémon along with a terrible personality
This series will suck and the hype surrounding it will fade away and people will realize how bad it is



Haha, I agree with this. x3

Kirbychu
September 24th, 2010, 08:08 PM
I speculate that:



Ash will not win the Pokémon League
No other goals that a main character may have, if any, will come to be a reality if it is tournament or master based (Become a Pokémon Master, Grand Festival winner, etc)
Pikachu will learn at least one new move
All of the Openings will be terrible as will the Endings
Team Rocket will still be annoying asses and the only thing that change about them is their Pokémon
The new rival will be a mix of Gary and Paul and have terrible Pokémon along with a terrible personality
This series will suck and the hype surrounding it will fade away and people will realize how bad it is


I agree with this, but it's a tad pessimistic. :P

Bluerang1
September 24th, 2010, 09:49 PM
Isn't it supposed to be a fast paced series? If so, why would the writers waste their time with a sub-plot like that? Wouldn't they want to keep things moving along instead of having a chase saga where Ash and co. try to get their Pokémon back?

It won't be a saga if it's permanent. The point is that they've lost, life isn't always cherries and ice-cream. They can either give up, or chase after the Pokemon during their journey.

mervyn797
September 25th, 2010, 01:13 AM
It won't be a saga if it's permanent. The point is that they've lost, life isn't always cherries and ice-cream. They can either give up,
I don't see something like that happening. If Team Rocket do manage to steal a Pokemon, Ash and company will get them back by the end of the episode. And no, they can't simply give up on their raised Pokemon. Don't trainers and their Pokemon share a special bond with each other?

or chase after the Pokemon during their journey.
That would take too long. I doubt that the writers would consider something like that. It would get rather boring as well.

SuperiorCat
September 25th, 2010, 02:03 AM
My predictions:


Ash will get to the semi-finals. He will lose and place second.
There will be no references of any of Ash's other female sidekicks.
Iris' Kibago won't evolve.
There will be no Pokemon contests or musicals. (More of a hope than a prediction)
There will be better and more of a range of music. In the first episodes I thought I heard some movie music. :3
The show will focus more on including more generic anime features rather just being a kids show.
Dento isn't going to be a pure grass trainer
We will be seeing more involvement of Oak and Aragagi throughout the series.
Team Rocket will grow brains/common sense. They didn't 'blast off' in the first 2 episodes. Shocking, I know.



Most of these I'm hopeful for. The first 2 episodes really did show promise.
I only stuck with the D/P saga out of loyalty. I have rather high hopes for the B/W saga.

Vernikova
September 25th, 2010, 03:58 AM
It won't be a saga if it's permanent. The point is that they've lost, life isn't always cherries and ice-cream. They can either give up, or chase after the Pokemon during their journey.

Just because Team Rocket is acting competent doesn't mean the writers are going to take this show is a whole different direction. It's a silly thing to assume that it would be permanent. Anyway, it would be a saga because Ash will just go after the stolen Pokémon before anything else.

tinix
September 25th, 2010, 04:52 AM
There will be absoutely no references made to either Brock, Misty, May or Dawn during the entire series

In opening there is very probably already refernce to Dawn. This

If I listen closely, I hear a nostalgic voice - somone on Sppf correcte it to sth like If i listen cloesly i hear a nostalgic whisper of heart or sth like that
could be Dawn
A voice from the future - dawn is returning ?
It's always praying for me - Dawns cheering for ash in DP
"You'll be all right! - All right = Daijobu = dawn japanese chatchprase
Somehow it'll be all right! - repeat above
Everyone will be all right!" - repeat above

GlalieX
September 25th, 2010, 06:20 PM
I really hope they don't leave all the old characters out. In fact, I really want them to all come together at a point.

Drew
September 25th, 2010, 06:27 PM
I agree with this, but it's a tad pessimistic. :P

Pessimistic, yes, but true. xD;

However, so far BW has managed to completely screw over the stereotypes that the other series have, soooo I think it will continue to be different, in more than just a few ways. Seems to me like they're trying to break out of patterns, and I hope that's true.

I DO still think Ash will lose in the Isshu league, though.

And he'll probably still ditch all his evolved Pokemon. :/

JLang
September 25th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Speculations:

Voices will be off
Cooler Graphics?
Hopefully, Team Rocket won't waste as much time...
Ash will not win the Pokémon League

Neelh
September 27th, 2010, 09:22 AM
Just because I say something bad about the animé, which I like, I hate the franchise?

I mean the pattern of events is totally new to the target audience.

Vernikova
September 27th, 2010, 12:48 PM
I mean the pattern of events is totally new to the target audience.

Then what I said shouldn't make you mad since you admit it will be the same as before.

Gumball Watterson
September 28th, 2010, 02:38 AM
All of you are speculating as if you were a bit too sure about Pokemon's pattern. There's nothing wrong with riding with that, but there is no reason to actually believe there won't be as many patterns here as previously.

Significant differences:

All previous girls were Pokemon Trainers/Coordinators/Started at 10. Iris is unknown... a lot (at the current stage of the anime)
Dento != Brock, people
The professor is a woman
There were no Evo/Prevo Pokemon


And the list will grow. Because I believe that the differences between this series and the previous will point to most if not all your speculations having to do with the normal patterns being wrong.

JeTz
September 28th, 2010, 04:59 AM
Ash never grew and became a little shorter. Anyone noticed that?

Bluerang1
September 28th, 2010, 08:31 AM
I'm not liking seeing Oak in this series. Delia, fine, she's his mum, but Oak has to go. So I'm speculating that he'll be going back to Kanto. I don't like him... to be in Isshu.

Vernikova
September 28th, 2010, 12:06 PM
Significant differences:

All previous girls were Pokemon Trainers/Coordinators/Started at 10. Iris is unknown... a lot (at the current stage of the anime)
Dento != Brock, people
The professor is a woman
There were no Evo/Prevo Pokemon



How is anything you suggested show that things will change? Cynthia was the first female Champion. Nothing. No evolutions/pre-evolutions doesn't mean anything either since that's a game change. It's not like that would stop the writers from having them do what they've always done. Also we don't know anything about Witch and green hair, so why are you including them in your argument trying to prove that things will be different?