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Sora
October 12th, 2011, 07:31 AM
I must be blind or I blocked them out of my memory because I've never seen typos like that and I've played Symphonia like... a lot. :(

darklord18
October 12th, 2011, 02:44 PM
I watch a video of the same part on youtub and I can confirm it not a typo.

it wasnt on the video so i pretty sure it either a error in my country verison

Sora
October 12th, 2011, 04:16 PM
Could be. I live in the US, soo...

In other news (that's still Symphonia) have a big picture of the promo picture. (http://i.imgur.com/XduNn.jpg)

Colette's eyes kind of creep me out, but the rest of it looks really neat! I can't wait for the next episode, but you guys already knew that.
Genis holding up Raine like that totally indicates the Fandalia Sidequest to mee, eee~~

There's also the premier subbed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pAsnXR2-tI) and A bigger preview of the Opening Song with a Zelos screenshot I haven't seen until now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eurtm-ORLj0&feature=related)

ソラ
October 12th, 2011, 05:42 PM
That picture looks beautiful I'm holding off on all symphonia related stuff i.e anime, manga, etc if they have the manga. cause I want to finish the game! Also, everytime I get home or I check the thread Tara is the last one to post. I thought it was funny :D not like rude or anything just saying haha.

Also, I met Sheena, I fought her, but i saved a bit after that then just stopped playing last night i like to take my time, or I like to eat..a lot haha. I just out of class I may play more tonight. haha

When i get more into the game, I may change my theme to symphonia I just gotta find my favorite character :3

Sora
October 12th, 2011, 10:22 PM
You should totally join the collab that Ryuryu (Ryukaa~) and I are planning on having once the next episode releases! You'll probably have a favorite character by then, since November 23rd comes out, so even if you haven't watched the episode I could probably provide you the images~~ Mithos is mine, and Genis will probably be my sister's tho. :P

ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN COULD DO SO AS WELL. I have no idea what the collab will be exactly but it will have something to do with the next episode! So yeah, plenty of time to plan things/for people to decide whether they want to join or not; I'll probably mention this as a later date as well~

And now have an epic AMV:
lGBUz060s3M
The lyrics match this amv so flawlessly i don't even. totally look up the lyrics and follow them along as you watch this amv. it's just... so amazing.

/yeah i'm excited if you guys couldn't tell. The Fourth Omake for the Tethe'alla Arc is finally going to be subbed, so yay for more Symphonia before the next Episode!

darklord18
October 14th, 2011, 03:13 AM
ok I want to bring up a topic people might hate remember or like remember

Do you hate grade farming? or grade in gerenal and prefer them to do something else in the next tales game? what are your thought on grade system?

me I prefer to they use Gald instead of grade since you earn alot near the end of the game (like what the point of gald if you got the best equiment for the character? or better yet have you earn more grade easier since I hate grinding. it just make you level up while doing so and then the final boss is a joke. like ToV I grind till I was level 200 on my second palythrough on hard to get enough grade and well even the final boss was a joke so i decide to go and find all those dark weapeon and unlock his hidden form which I will never fight it in hard or above since he a pain even at level 200 on normal. coughbigbangcough.

I just dont like grade system were you get -number, like I rather get 0 then lose some of your grade you already earn espically.

what people thought on grade system?

Sora
October 14th, 2011, 05:05 AM
I love the Grade System, so much. If would be hard to use Gald, because to be it would just look silly using Gald to transfer Gald, and you won't be transferring as much Gald, y'know. Although, I don't think I've ever actually Grade Farmed. Maybe a little bit in Abyss, but that's basically it. When it comes to Symphonia I have so much Grade that I would get everything I want in the Grade Shop, and then I would still have a lot left over.

But, I don't really get your post. You only use Grade to transfer things over to the new game after you're done with the current play through, and if you're willing to buy things from the Katz and such in some games. Sure your Gald accumulates over time, but so does your Grade the more you play the game, and you unless you do spend it on things like the Katz, then you aren't spending it at all and only losing it when you get negative grade (which to be quite honest because I'm always underleveled I tend to only lose it during boss battles and the occasional normal battle).

Also, I don't know if you can do this in Vesperia, but in Abyss and (I think) Symphonia, you can put on your best weapon, put the game on highest difficulty, then go to the first area of the game and fight the monsters there. You won't get a lot of EXP (if you're really that concerned about it), aaaand you'll get a lot of Grade because 1 hit KO + Difficulty level + quick battle = lots of Grade.

Also, you can always up the difficulty or hinder yourself in some way (like putting your people on weaker levels) if you want the final boss to be less of a joke. There are people who get to the max level (255) before beating the game. Truth me told, I've only gotten my characters up to level 100-101 because I dislike grinding of all sorts, but over time I've been able to accumulate enough Grade for what I need for my next game (and now I don't even have to bother anymore when it comes to Grade).

Miss Doronjo
October 14th, 2011, 05:37 AM
You can do that in Vesperia as well. You can also keep your costums, your weapon skills, your stats, the information in your monster book, the world map, and unlock Unkown mode, the hardest in difficulty. There's also an option to unlock all the skits in Vesperia with the Grade you recieve, which all you have to do is go to Nam Combinda Isle to watch em' all. You can also with your grade, have an option to get double, or 10x the EXP you'd get, or maybe just 1/2 the EXP you normally get for fighting monsters.

Well, there's also a method on how you can easily get Grade in Vesperia, but, I'm not sure if you guys are interested. xD

Sora
October 14th, 2011, 06:03 AM
So... basically the same as with Symphonia and Abyss, give or take a little because of the differences in skills and such in each game. Except for in Symphonia you simply have to be in your second playthrough or more in order to unlock all the skits. I think it might be that way for Abyss as well.

I've never played the game, and I don't know if I ever will at this rate, eh-heeh. However, if you want to tell us, then go ahead!

And while we're on the subject...

What do you usually use your Grade on when making a new game?

I usually transfer my Titles (Costumes), Gald, Collector's Book, Recipes, Figurines, EX Gems (both in Inventory and Equipped), Memory Gems, Monster List, Spell/Tech Usage... and I think that might be it. xD; After that I just pick whatever I feel like having for the EXP difference, and so on and so forth depending on how I want to take the next playthrough. I have enough grade in which I could basically pick everything I want, and some extras and still have well.. a lot left over. Not sure exactly how much.

... Abyss I'm not sure because I haven't played it in a while. I know I've accumulated a bit in that game as well, iirc.

Miss Doronjo
October 14th, 2011, 06:12 AM
What do you usually use your Grade on when making a new game?

Costumes, Titles, Gald, Recipe Book, Monster Book, World Map, Weapons and Skits (sometimes).

I'm a guy that likes to challenge myself in Unknown mode, so I don't spend it on keeping my EXP and levels. :3

Sora
October 14th, 2011, 06:24 AM
You can keep your EXP and Levels in Vesperia? I would probably never use it myself, since part of the fun is to level up all over again. Unless you mean the x2 EXP and such. Then you can just pick 1/2 EXP to challenge yourself even more. :B

But yeah. The enjoyment of learning everything again and leveling up is part of the reason why I never transfer the actual tech either (though in a future playthrough I might just for the hell of it and have some fun with my sister). Of course... I transfer tech usage, but shhhh.

> tara has no life but to post in this club after ever person.

Miss Doronjo
October 14th, 2011, 06:31 AM
...I'm pretty sure, unless I'm mistaken.

Buy yeah; even sometimes I don't choose to keep the skits, because they're funnier during the story!

Sora
October 14th, 2011, 06:33 AM
... Don't you get the skits during the story regardless of whether or not you bring them over? Unless they switched it up in Vesperia. But there are some skits that Itry to never miss during the story, just because they're hilarious and are probably among my favorites. Like the Kendama Skits.

Miss Doronjo
October 14th, 2011, 06:36 AM
No, if you choose that option in Vesperia, you wouldn't get (most) of the skits for some reason.

Which brings up another topic!

What's your favourite skit of all time? :3

Sora
October 14th, 2011, 06:39 AM
Huuuuh. That's weird. Then yeah, I would much rather not transfer them and see the skits all over again if that's the case.

What's your Favorite Skit of all Time?
The Kendama Skits. I reaaaally wished those were voices because oh god they would be so much more hilarious if they were. But regardless, I always giggle whenever I see them.

[And then insert a whole bunch of other skits I really enjoy after the Kendama skits]

Miss Doronjo
October 14th, 2011, 06:48 AM
Eh, at first I thought it was a glitch, (maybe it is) but, it doesn't matter; I just deselect the skits option and still get them anyway~

Anyway! My favourite skit?

JhlllHUiacc

Seriously...no contest for me. xD

Sora
October 14th, 2011, 08:17 AM
Ahh yes, that one. It would have to be one of my favorites from ToS 2. Any with Tenebrae are pretty awesome though, since he made Emil and Marta tolerable for me, and just in general he just makes things better every now and then.

I also love the skit with Colette and the Metal Gear Solid reference. Oh Colette~

ソラ
October 14th, 2011, 06:57 PM
I dont want to insult any fangirls or fanboys lmao.
Ive been neglecting Symphonia for the last few days D:. Cause of School, and my old friend moved back weve been out haha.
But today I sat down been playing it :). I still have got Sheena, or anyone else.
I only got Lloyd, Collete, Kratos, Raine and Genis. I fought Sheena. But atm Im at Thoda Geyser. Im so slow ;-; But I'll beat it when I beat it :)

U.Flame
October 16th, 2011, 02:08 PM
I also love the skit with Colette and the Metal Gear Solid reference. Oh Colette~

I KNEW that was a Metal Gear reference! My favorite skit is the Abyss one with Luke talking about breast sizes. "Anise is about as sexy as Mieu." Then something about Tear: "You can't compete with those melons!" Then Tear gets pissed. ^_^

Also the many Jade skits. "I truly will miss Dist." "As a friend?" "No, as his master. He was a really nice pet."
Another sarcastic moment: "What's wrong Luke? Tummy ache? *gasp* The runs?"

Sora
October 16th, 2011, 04:29 PM
HI GUYS I HAVE SCREENSHOTS.

I don't know why but Lloyd is reaaaaally cute with that tank top and bandages (http://blog-imgs-48-origin.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkurin/71TgJ6wHGML.jpg)
MITHOSGENIS ANGST HNNNNNNNG (http://blog-imgs-48-origin.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkurin/71jZ7v7p1vL.jpg)
Bigger picture of what was on the official site. I love it. Soooooo much! (http://blog-imgs-48-origin.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkurin/61e+1Xp6Z4L.jpg)

Can it pleeeeeeease be November 23rd yet. Please? ;A;

Miss Doronjo
October 16th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Yeeeesssss, I want it to be my birthday already~ :3

Tara, those links are broken for me~ D; [well, I got 404 errors]

Sora
October 16th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Weird. They work just fine over on my laptop. But here, for you and for anyone else that it didn't work for.

Lloyd (And Regal) (http://i.imgur.com/y4ZpC.jpg)
Mithos and Genis (http://i.imgur.com/qnNxS.jpg)
Mithos and Kratos (http://i.imgur.com/ZcYuj.jpg)

darklord18
October 16th, 2011, 11:41 PM
ok I been grade farming in NDX and I found that I need a total of 12000 for the best stuff

though with a garde cap of 99.99 per fight, man I in for a long farming.


anyway cant wait for abyss to come out

and my fave skit from the games

ToV the one were they talking about the ring and raven gose "I use to see lady." and rita hit him and yuri ask what he wish the ring dose now and raven gose. "go back in time, shut me up." lol

ToS2 it was any that were emil x marta related and marta cooking one. marta if you want emil I don't thinking killing him wiht your cooking going to help.

ToP NDX even though I don't know japaness I look up on youtub for tranlation and this is rody and dio are talking about hi ogui, you need to use rody hi ogui and then the skit show up and dio asking rody to teach how to do one and she make refernce to other tales games hi ogui like being level 30, having the special skill on, being in over limit. which confuse doi. I was lol.

Miss Doronjo
October 18th, 2011, 11:57 AM
Oooookay gang:

Which Tales of Character did you had the most fun fighting against?

Sora
October 18th, 2011, 12:05 PM
Which Tales of Character did you had the most fun fighting against?
Abyssion, hands down. Oh the countless hours that my friend, my sister, and I wasted trying to beat him because our characters were only in the 60-70s whenever we tried to face him. Some of the best moments of my life, I'd say. Sometimes my sister and I would be bored, and thus we would pick up the game, pick the file with Abyssion, and try to defeat him in all sorts of ways on different difficulties. It's so much fun!

Then it would have to be Yuan and Botta, solely because of the 1/2 EXP on Hard file that my sister and I tackled. See, we're not the greatest at video games so we spent oh about... three hours trying to beat him and Yuan? It wasn't aggravating though! Instead it was hilarious and amaaaazing, and we had a ton of fun doing it! Of course, then we cheated and brought the difficulty level down for the Dragon's Nest because we didn't want to waste more of our life trying to defeat another boss, one we thought was more difficult than Yuan and Botta.

I also have fun beating up Remiel, Kvar, Rodyle, and Mohs, because I hate them. I also like to try defeating Sync with one Guy, but it's a bother when I lose because of a certain cutscene you have to see before you face him (luckily you can actually skip that cutscene, derp). Fighting Mithos with one Presea has been fun as well, though I don't do it as often ever sense he peaked into my favorite antagonist and favorite Tales of Character in general spot. I've grown to be a bit sympathetic and thus I don't try when I face him. I also have a separate save spot for whenever I want to defeat the other God Generals (final battle with them) other than Dist (hurrhurr), but none of them were really used as often as Sync's (even though he's my favorite God General), and I think Arietta's have been used second.

Miss Doronjo
October 21st, 2011, 07:47 AM
I guess to answer my own question:

Alexei from Tales of Vesperia because you won't believe how cheap he is using all his MA's. He's frustratingly hard, but that what makes him cool to fight against in Hard Mode. xD

And omg Yggdrasil -- I lost to him in Mania mode not once, not twice, not thrice, but...BUT A BUNCH OF TIMES.

Anyway, side question:
Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in the Tales Game?

~Ryukaa
October 21st, 2011, 01:35 PM
Which Symphonia Character did you had the most fun fighting against?
The Lloyd and Kratos fight was definitely my favourite in the game. I love, love, loooove one on one fights in any game. Especially dramatic fights. So yeah. xD;
That fight was awesome.

Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in Symphonia?
...Sheena. /cowers away
I was getting used to the game, and I never blocked back then! xDD;;
I don't think I used any artes, either.

Sora
October 21st, 2011, 06:32 PM
Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in the Tales Game?
Symphonia: Does the Dragon Nest count? That boss always gives me trouble. D; But other than that, I suppose it would have to be the bosses that are in the Book (which i can never bother to remember the name of. don't even try to make me remember; by the next day or hour it'll be 'The Book' again).
Abyss: I'm not too sure tbqh. It's been forever since I played the game. I guess just for the sake of it it's Nebilim. I'll try to think of a storyline character that is always difficult for me later.

ソラ
October 22nd, 2011, 11:21 AM
Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in the Tales Game?
It's in Tales of Graces F, Facing Lambda's Body. :| I cant win at all, I need this title to win, and I dont have it.
In ToTA. My hardest was probably the final boss battle with Van. :|
In ToX I gotta say Gaius.
In ToS..SO FAR Sheena. But I beat her after I lost the first time.

U.Flame
October 22nd, 2011, 10:32 PM
My hardest fight was Abyssion from Symphonia. I had a fairly easy time against Nebilim since the Abyss battle system allows freerun, FOF, and Mystic Arte awesomeness compaired to Symphonia.

Sora
October 28th, 2011, 03:36 PM
Hi guys I'm just going to drop these images that were on #ova_tos' twitter this morning!

The Two Box Arts (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSUWBox1.jpg)
Collector's Edition Stuff (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSUWCE1.jpg)
Exphere Edition Stuff (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSUWEE1.jpg)
Back of DVD Cases (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Mew20/434970873.jpg)
Booklet Stuff (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSUW1Stuff.jpg)
More Booklet Stuff (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSUWCEBook1.jpg)
Soundtrack CD List (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSSoundList.jpg)
All the DVD boxsets up to United Worlds (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Mew20/434976407.jpg)

Then we have these boxsets:
Tales of Phantasia The Animation: Eternal Edition & Tales of Symphonia the Animation: Duology Edition (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Mew20/434978605.jpg)
Back of Tales of Phantasia DVD Case and Boxart Cover to Sylvarant Edition of Symphonia (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Mew20/434988099.jpg)
DVD Case Art to Sylvarant Edition of the Duology Edition (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Mew20/434987264.jpg)
More Phantasia and Symphonia (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Mew20/434985054.jpg)

Yes. I squeed and cried this morning.

~Ryukaa
October 31st, 2011, 10:50 AM
It's times like these when I wish they localized these DVDs.
I mean-- God! They love absolutely brilliant! xD;
It would be pretty awesome to have Colette sticking out on my shelf. xDDDD;;

Also, a screenshot from one of the two United World episodes! (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/KratKidLloyd.jpg) Courtesy of Tara. :D
The upcoming episodes look absolutely mind blowing. I just hope they don't cram too much into the episodes. I mean, I'd like it! But it would also backfire.
...I don't know anymore. ;A;

Sora
November 1st, 2011, 12:43 PM
HI GUYS MORE STUFF. no i don't care that you guys aren't replying. i'm posting these anyways.

Everything is from the official site, so if you want to check it out, just look it up.

New image showing the two boxsets (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/1ToSUW1.png)
Image for the Duo-DVD Boxset (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/1ToSDuo.png)
Collector's Edition Boxset (http://ova-tos.com/images/product/DVD_02_CE_01.jpg)
Exphere Edition Boxset (http://ova-tos.com/images/product/DVD_02_EE_01.jpg)

aaaand, now have these time little screenshots for the next episode.
http://ova-tos.com/images/story/s01/h4_a.jpg http://ova-tos.com/images/story/s01/h4_b.jpg http://ova-tos.com/images/story/s01/h4_c.jpg http://ova-tos.com/images/story/s01/h4_d.jpg http://ova-tos.com/images/story/s01/h4_e.jpg

That second one just... eeeeeeeee. ;A; The fourth one tooooooo.

Miss Doronjo
November 1st, 2011, 12:49 PM
Those look nice~! :3

I wonder who Genis is holding or...skaing hands with. xD
/actually I could guess~!

Sora
November 1st, 2011, 07:15 PM
It's really easy to figure out, seeing the background of the image, and the purple bracelet you see in the corner of the image. xD;

Edit: CD Cover for the Tales of Version of Misono/Me's Honto Uso Single (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/hontouso3.jpg)
It's so pretty, omggggg. I want it so bad.

U.Flame
November 6th, 2011, 05:35 AM
Anyone notice the lesbian in Abyss's Baticul Port? Is there any way to acttually see her? The camera covers her on purpose doesn't it? She looks like a...whatsitcalled...the water people in Legendia.

Sora
November 7th, 2011, 02:28 PM
... I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. It doesn't help that I haven't played the game in such a long time, and with the PS2 breaking on me I don't think I'll be playing the game for a while.

So instead have another screenshot of what's going to be in the opening of the next ToS Opening! (http://twitpic.com/7bqad8/full) <333333333333333333

U.Flame
November 7th, 2011, 05:33 PM
She's to the right of Batical Port, next to the fence thing. The camera always changes when you get near so you can never actually see her. I'm actually a little surprised yet glad that Tales would have a homosexual in one of the games. Then again Jay from Legendia seems suspicious. ;)

Sora
November 7th, 2011, 05:50 PM
Again, I'm not going to be able to play the game for a while because PS2 basically broke, but why are you considering her a homosexual if all you can do is see her.

I haven't played much of Legendia, so I can't really say much when it comes to Jay. I like Jay though, from what I've seen of him.

/is just awaiting the next episode of Tales of Symphonia okay

U.Flame
November 7th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Again, I'm not going to be able to play the game for a while because PS2 basically broke, but why are you considering her a homosexual if all you can do is see her.

I haven't played much of Legendia, so I can't really say much when it comes to Jay. I like Jay though, from what I've seen of him.

/is just awaiting the next episode of Tales of Symphonia okay


Actually you've got it backwards. You CAN'T see her. She always obsesses about General Ceceil's beauty and safety like a stalker.

Sora
November 8th, 2011, 07:40 AM
Okay, if you can't even see her, then what's the proof? Can you speak to her or anything? That's what I'm getting at actually, I'm assuming that you might be able to speak to her if you say she speaks about Cecille's beauty, but...

Eh, whatever. I can't check for myself, so regardless I can't see for myself to see if she's really there or anything (which is what I like to do to prove Easter Egg type things). Instead I'm going to plop down these screenshots from the upcoming Omake, because it's what I do care about:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/Roidooo.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/Zerosuuu.jpg
So Zelos getting beat up is part of the Omake, and not part of the actual episode. That makes me feel so much better.

U.Flame
November 8th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Yes I go by her dialogue. About Symphonia: Good, I'd hate to see Zelos's pretty face ruined. :'(

ソラ
November 11th, 2011, 10:23 AM
Well I stopped playing Symphonia, cause that little voice in my head says to finish Xillia. Which I did, with like 7000+ Grade :D I feel I accomplished alot in Xillia. :3

Also, this month Europe gets Tales of the Abyss for the first time :D Yay for them!

Imma start to play Symphonia again :3. I also wanted to change my theme back to my favorite Tales Character. Oh SOPHIE~CHAWWWN!!!!!!!<3 (did a little one piece reference there :3)

[EDIT] - I found this at the Tales Facebook Fan Page not my picture haha. Looks like Namco gave us the date finally for Abyss 3D, never really said it on a website, they kind of just gave it to us on the back of a Instruction manual. lol. So 2.14.2012...Valentines day haha wow.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/384829_287988407907567_100000892312173_872350_847753766_n.jpg

Sora
November 21st, 2011, 09:50 AM
p5Xg9yB8Bx0

I'll comment on this Opening for United World when I can comment on it in clean, coherent sentences that doesn't consist of spazzing, 'he's so cute', spazzing, 'omgomgomg', and well... spazzing.

CAN'T WAIT THOUGH. HNNNNNNG.

U.Flame
November 23rd, 2011, 09:35 PM
So the United World is one final episode?

Sora
November 23rd, 2011, 09:40 PM
No. It's two episodes. Yeah, don't ask me why it's called 'The United World Episode' if there's going to be two of 'em. I'm not sure either.

U.Flame
November 23rd, 2011, 10:11 PM
Awesome. Is there a release date for the episodes? Or are they already out?

Sora
November 24th, 2011, 08:44 AM
The first of the two was released November 23rd. I watched it last night and to put it simply: IT WAS GLORIOUS. omg. Just... amazing.

The next and last episode will be sometime in 2012, but they haven't given a release date for it yet.

ソラ
November 24th, 2011, 11:12 AM
Hm, Can't wait till I beat ToS to watch it all of the OVA, and the other stuff. c:
I've been busy like hell :| I mostly gonna play it today to get farther, I'll work on my paper on Friday or Sunday night. Also, I hear an Xillia Anime is gonna happen, Idk if any news happened after i heard it, thats just what i heard. If any anime, I want there to be a Graces anime the most c:.

U.Flame
November 30th, 2011, 04:39 PM
ARGH! My frustratingly long post didn't post! Basically I'm getting Tales of Innocence thanks to DS homebrew and an english patch from the same geniuses who translated PS1 Phantasia. :)

~Ryukaa
December 6th, 2011, 12:34 PM
Argh. Vaaan.
WHY DID I WASTE ALL MY LIFE BOTTLES BEFORE FIGHTING YOU.
I realised how tough life can be without Life Bottles. DDD:

Sora
December 9th, 2011, 05:04 AM
Oh god. It's been yeeeears since I faced Van, so I'm not sure how difficult he was for me to beat, ahaha.

Anyways, I'm still in the Symphonia mood, but I have a feeling that I'm going to be getting Vesperia really soon, and if the 360 works, I'll start playing that. Since we only have one controller, I also have a feeling it's going to take me a while to beat, ahaa... /too used to playing with others when it comes to Tales of Games.

~Ryukaa
December 9th, 2011, 05:29 AM
Oh, I didn't know you had a 360! xD;
I'M WILLING TO PLAY WITH YOU TARA. :DDD
From... a distance.
...Without an xBox. D:

Miss Doronjo
December 9th, 2011, 05:36 AM
I'd soo play with you in Vesperia caaaause I know Vesperia like the back of my own hand~~ <3

Sora
December 9th, 2011, 05:51 AM
Like me with Symphonia! Sadly, I think we only have one 360 Controller, but then of course, you could just bring along your own controller, aha!

But yeah. I already have a feeling that nostalgia with the many memories I have with Symphonia and not being able to play Vesperia with others is going to hinder it from me liking it more than Symphonia. Just call me a little stick in the mud~

U.Flame
December 9th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Damn Japan! Why isn't the PS3 version of Vesperia released in America? I have the PS3 and not an XBox! It's perfect! The more Tales games that are kept in Japan, the more I think I should give up waiting and just learn Japanese...too bad it's not that easy.

Also, Abyss is almost out for the 3DS! Yay! It's gonna suck starting a new game after playing almost 600 hours on PS2 Abyss. But I think it'll be worth it! are there any major changes like artes, enemies, or anything? Or is the main difference the screen and controls?

ソラ
December 9th, 2011, 12:55 PM
Total hype zone for us NA Tales fan.
Today, Rich Bantegui (http://twitter.com/#!/Filthierich), gave out a trailer for Tales of Graces: F
it has voices for some characters, like Asbel, Sophie, Hubert, and some battle voices gotta listen tho, since i have hard of hearing i cant hear it too well. But anyways, it also has a release date at the end of the trailer, which Im happy with, its only a month after Tales of the Abyss date
ToA3D Date: Feb. 14, 2012.
Tales of Graces F: March 13, 2012.

Now i bring to you Graces F trailer :) ENJOY


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~Ryukaa
December 9th, 2011, 02:44 PM
Damn Japan! Why isn't the PS3 version of Vesperia released in America? I have the PS3 and not an XBox! It's perfect! The more Tales games that are kept in Japan, the more I think I should give up waiting and just learn Japanese...too bad it's not that easy.

Also, Abyss is almost out for the 3DS! Yay! It's gonna suck starting a new game after playing almost 600 hours on PS2 Abyss. But I think it'll be worth it! are there any major changes like artes, enemies, or anything? Or is the main difference the screen and controls?

God, I hate to be the bringer of bad news. :(
I recently beat it, and it's apparently exactly the same as the PS2 version, but without multiplayer. Honestly, I enjoyed it. But that's probably because it was my first time playing.

AND NEW GRACES TRAILER YES

ソラ
December 9th, 2011, 05:15 PM
I know right? God March 13, 2012 Finally Namco gave us something we can look forward to instead of "2012 Q1". Judging from the trailer they actually might have vocals in the opening since that is the english version of "Mamoritai ~White Wishes~" BoA did a Japanese version and English version, she has it on her special edition CD and the ToG Singles CD on it, So Hoping i do like the English version of the song as well as I love the Japanese.

Also

Bryce Papenbrook does Asbel Lhant (adult)
Kate Higgins does Asbel Lhant (Child)
Cassandra Morris does Sophie.

Im happy with the voices so far. We did hear a bit of Hubert who might be the voice actor of Neiji (i think I spelt that right) of Naruto. idk I couldnt hear it too well.

At first people thought Asbel was voiced by Scott Menville who does Lloyd from ToS, but alot of people who love Scott, says "No, thats not him at all" and I guess they were right.

But over all. Looks solid in the game release, I can't wait i love the voices. :) especially Sophie's voices <3 in Japanese and English :D

U.Flame
December 10th, 2011, 06:14 PM
You know what? I've decided. I already have 600 hours of my life poured into PS2 Abyss and Graces is going to be released in America so, I'm going to cancel my 3DS Abyss reservation and pre-order Graces F! I think it's a good idea, I want Abyss portable and 3D but I already have my life's data on PS2 Abyss plus I know the story too well. I haven't played Graces and TRUE remakes are worth it. Plus it's been years since I've played a new Tales game that wasn't Japanese or a spin-off.

Wansen
December 11th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Heya! Wondering if I may please join.
And I think thats a good idea U_Flame.

Miss Doronjo
December 11th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Yup, I've added you in~!

Okay, I realized I haven't asked this, but:

What's your least favorite Tales of Character?

Wansen
December 11th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Hmmmm hard question to answear I suppose...the Mayor of Iselia from Tales of Symphonia and that guy who wore the green capey thing and was old with purple hair I forgot his name. But I don't like him either. From Abyss I don't like Synch so far, he's just bland to me(but I havn't gotten very far in the game so i don't know a lot but still...) but I like his design.

U.Flame
December 12th, 2011, 12:33 PM
i love Sync! My least favorite is...I don't know. Anise and Mimi Baker really get on my nerves sometimes but I don't hate them. Who do you hate Miss Doronjo?

Oh I know! Largo. I feel bad that the love of his life commited suicide but if he has no problem trying to kill his own daughter, something is seriously wrong with him.

Sora
December 12th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Sync! Sync's my favorite god general, soyeah. <3 The ugly guy with the green clothing and purple hair is Rodyle. I hate him very much so. </3

Who's your least favorite Tales of Character?
Tales of Symphonia:
Remiel - I hate this guy. SO much. sooo much. It just annoys the hell out of me, and I've had wonderful times going 'TO KILL REMIEL' whenever Colette says 'Looks like it's time' with my friend and my sister. Such wonderful times!

Kvar - oh hey look! this bastard! yeah i hate him as well. i always, always have Kratos with me when going to beat him. no exceptions. at all.

Rodyle - And the green clothing purple haired guy that Wansen mentioned! I hate his guts as well!

Tales of the Abyss
Moooooooohs - I. hate. this. guy. so. much. That is all!

And now you guys wonder why I love Symphonia when I hate several enemies. Well, that's just the case! I enjoy having enemies that I loathe, because they're so much fun to kill. Abyss' enemies on the other hand... i love most of them and thus i'm just going 'AUGH' when it's time to face them, and that's no fun!

Also, yay Graces F. I would be more excited if I had the console to play it on. But alas I don't and I'm not expecting on getting one for a long time yet. Maybe I can buy it and play it on my cousin's PS3, but idk. I'm waiting for something that I absolutely cannot live without before getting a new console.

Miss Doronjo
December 12th, 2011, 12:46 PM
Who do I hate?

Well, I also hate Mohs.
Like really. I think everyone hates this guy. After what he did in Abyss, its impossible not to hate him. At least imo.

Well in other games, like Vesperia, I hated Alexei 'cause he's a bastard. :( Also he's really, really cheap to fight. Dx Like really. Every 20 seconds, I guarantee you he'll activate his OVL and follow up with a MA.

Symphonia? Well, Marta..kinda, but, after a while, even she's tolerable. :B
I never really hated anyone from Symphonia. xD

Sora
December 12th, 2011, 12:53 PM
ohyeahsymphonia2forgotaboutthat.

I'm not too fond of Marta either. She... becomes tolerable after a while, but eh. I much prefer Emil, and even more so Ratatosk!Emil. Even then though, the only two new characters from ToS2 that I really liked and enjoyed were Alice and Decus. They were lovely, even if Decus was a douche and disguised as Lloyd to attacked Palmacosta... it's not like Lloyd was really in character that game anyways.

ソラ
December 12th, 2011, 01:06 PM
My least favorite character Hmmmm.

Tales of Graces F: Emurade (I think thats how you spell her name) (I dont want to spoiler her at all so Im just saying I hate her thats all).

Tales of The Abyss: Mohs I do hate him, he is annoying :|

Tales of Xillia: I dont hate anyone that i can remember.

Tales of Symphonia: I havent got far enough to hate anyone yet.

Also, Yeah ToGF Im still hyped about it, I cant stop thinking of who the voices >.<. Just hope my Ps3 doesnt break between now and then, cause Imma play the crap out of it when i get the English release :x

Wansen
December 12th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Wow, I need to hurry up and get through Tales of the Abyss. Since it seems like Synch will become a better character? maybe. I just have a feeling that, (putting it in spoilers just because...)
he might be Fon Master Ion
BUT that just might be me. e-e I hope I'm wrong because I've guessed who he is. I'll probably look either really dumb or smart now. Yay. Now if I'm right I can be all YEAAAAAH I GUESSED RIGHT.


Why did you have to remind me of Remiel BinaryPeaches WHY! UGH I forgot about him but UGH. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I hate him too. I hate him.

~Ryukaa
December 12th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Ahaha, Remiel. He was a douche. A huge one. I mean, poor Colette. Geez. D:
Definitely my most hated character in Symphonia.

In Abyss? Hmm. The only one I hated was Mohs. I mean, frick.
The way he treated Ion and the replicas. Ugh, he pissed me off. <_>;
That's actually a spoiler, for those wondering. xD;

I can't wait for Graces f. I never thought I'd get a PS3 until at least 2013, but I suddenly have one. So... yeah, okay. xDDD;;
Graces f looks marvelous, though. I'm looking forward to it completely.

darklord18
December 13th, 2011, 09:19 PM
Remiel and that rod wielder guy who lloyd and kratos kill together, do i need to say why, that guy kill lloyd mother and kratos wife. (if I remember right even kratos say he kill her and not desien or whatever they call, if you heard that you can not like this guy.) Remiel i just pain hate at the moment i first saw him. i thought he was cool till he said he was her father and I was like. "ok this guy is not telling the full story." but unlike kratos who I thought was just a random sell sword I knew this guy wiould one day betray us.

Zelos. out of all ToS cast I HATE zelos. and no it not cause he betray you it cause of his girl firts and worst is why he dose it.


and no I don't hate mithos or emil since I can understand their view points.

ToP, I hate arch. pretty much the same reason as zelos she just bad personallity.

ToV you can cause who, it Raven, same reason as zelos.


and I want to ask.

What your least like villian?

i least like one? umm hate to be ToS2 decus. he not as bad as zelos is with personaity and i do like his boss fight i just not a fan of his peronaity.

Wansen
December 13th, 2011, 10:01 PM
TALES OF INNOCENCE.
Just wow. Privy Council. Just...so cliche. EVIL COUNCIL IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING WANTS TO BECOME GOD/ALLPOWERFULL etc. okay...and Oswald was a weak villian and was just like the Privy Council in goals. Though he was sorta alright because he did this one thing which was cool.
He got Hasta to kill the Privy Council. HAH. I thought that was awesome. I hated them.
YUP.

Sora
December 14th, 2011, 06:35 AM
Zelos. out of all ToS cast I HATE zelos. and no it not cause he betray you it cause of his girl firts and worst is why he dose it.

auuuuugh. i hate it... hate it when people hate zelos because he's a 'pervert' and he flirts with girls. because most of the time that's all they know about Zelos, and that's all they see. It sounds like you might know of Zelos' history, and if you do I can sort of respect your opinion. But in my opinion, Zelos' reasoning for what he does and why he does it is totally acceptable. Zelos is a much more deeper character than what you see, and I absolutely hate it when people dislike him because 'oh he's a pervert' since that's mostly just a facade.

</rant>

~Ryukaa
December 14th, 2011, 09:37 AM
Honestly, I think him being a pervert added to his character in a positive way. xD;
As Tara said, he's actualy quite a deep character under the surface. After beating Tales of Symphonia, I loved all of the party members; Zelos included.
His flirts aren't really serious. Well, not completely. xDD;;
That's how I saw them, anyway. xD;

Aaaand, Tales of Innocence. I really need to get around to beating that. I really want to, but the dungeons are so tedious, it's not even funny. <_>;

Miss Doronjo
December 14th, 2011, 10:38 AM
Zelos is an awful lot like Raven from Vesperia~
In fact, they also played similar roles (in the spoiler):

Ladies man, Betrayed the group, Came back to help, has a deeper side to them, etc.

U.Flame
December 14th, 2011, 11:57 AM
auuuuugh. i hate it... hate it when people hate zelos because he's a 'pervert' and he flirts with girls. because most of the time that's all they know about Zelos, and that's all they see. It sounds like you might know of Zelos' history, and if you do I can sort of respect your opinion. But in my opinion, Zelos' reasoning for what he does and why he does it is totally acceptable. Zelos is a much more deeper character than what you see, and I absolutely hate it when people dislike him because 'oh he's a pervert' since that's mostly just a facade.

</rant>
Yaaay Zelos love! I love his inner and outer personality! He's one of the only people who never doubted Lloyd in Syphonia 2, and his flirtiness always results in hilarity. Also Viva Tales of made the right decision making him and Jade the hosts. Best duo EVER!

And what about Arche? No defense for her? I love her too! She gave up her body for Rhea, encourages Chester by teasing him, and her personality is just so fun! Plus she's cute. :3

By the way, is Innocence fun? I'm still waiting for my R4 (DS homebrew) and Innocence with an english patch to arrive in the mail.

ソラ
December 14th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Tales of Graces F got a NA Boxart cover.

http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ToGF-US-Box-Art-Full-600x701.jpg

I personally like it, since it is the Original Japanese art for the PS3 ToGf, also I hope it is reversible like the Japanese version is :O

U.Flame
December 17th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Anyone with a hacked PSP, I highly recommend the wallpaper changer plug in. Now every time I start my PSP, I see another one of my favorite Tales pictures as my wallpaper! :)

I've been playing Radiant Mythology 2 again, it never ends! I want to play Radiant Mythology 3 (even though Regal is excluded AGAIN) but I can't get the damn thing to work. Even if I did I'd still need a menu translation and I don' know if that even exists yet. Is it as much as an improvement as 2 was?

darklord18
December 21st, 2011, 04:51 AM
RM 3 dones't really need a tranlation patch i haven't finish the game (i got ToP X halfway through playing RM3.)

but I also playing TotA 3ds and have to say this is sorta better than grace f cause it on a handheld and isn't either in japan only or badly translated. I respect people who like grace f but to me abyss is more wroth the money for those who couldn't get the ps2 version.

a topic

what are the most tragic moments in tales games

ソラ
December 21st, 2011, 04:50 PM
RM 3 dones't really need a tranlation patch i haven't finish the game (i got ToP X halfway through playing RM3.)

but I also playing TotA 3ds and have to say this is sorta better than grace f cause it on a handheld and isn't either in japan only or badly translated. I respect people who like grace f but to me abyss is more wroth the money for those who couldn't get the ps2 version.

a topic

what are the most tragic moments in tales games
No offense to your opinion. and I agree to it partly.
Those who havent play TotA, those who never picked up the PS2 version in America, pick the 3D up first mainly due cause its great title.
But if you have picked it up, you can pick it up first hence it is releasing first before ToGf. But Dont pass up ToGf its an incredible game, Its my favorite of the series I love Abyss I picked up the ps2 version and will be picking up the 3D version too, but Graces is on my top list, tho imma get Abyss 3D first since it releases before it. Plus, Graces and Abyss release is a month apart in america. and in Eu get it in the summer for ToGf :O

But this is no offense to Abyss players at all, I like Graces F more, but Abyss is right next to it in my list it really is :D

Wansen
December 21st, 2011, 09:08 PM
Tragic moments in Tales games?
Obviously character deaths and I don't feel like going into details.
ToI great offender of this. I will just list names.
Chitose, Gardiel(?) Ricardo's Brother ACTUALLY HIS LIFE IS A TRADEGY (not Ricardo's his brother, Asura and Inanna!Asura
YUP lots of people DIIIIIE and I'm sad though Tales of Innocence pissed me off that I really didn't care a lot...though I always cared about Ricardo -v-;

Cherrim
December 21st, 2011, 11:04 PM
Wow, I'm very surprised with that ToGf boxart. Usually they go with the cel-shaded anime-style art over watercolour. o_O

Honestly, none of the Tales games I've played have been that sad. The end of Abyss breaks my heart a little, but only because I got so attached to the characters. But I haven't played that many games, either, so that might be part of it.

Question about RM3: does it make you stop and do quests with people you haven't levelled as often as RM2 does? I'm playing that now and I'll do maybe 3-4 quests and then get stuck doing a quest that replaces my party and they're always level ~6 who want to go kill the things that my main party (~40) normally takes out. >:( It's so frustrating because I really have no desire to use those people and even when it's only a pair of them, they refuse to let me bring one of my other party members too and auggggh. It's really ruining my desire to finish the game and will definitely affect my resolve to play the next one. D:

darklord18
December 22nd, 2011, 03:46 AM
No offense to your opinion. and I agree to it partly.
Those who havent play TotA, those who never picked up the PS2 version in America, pick the 3D up first mainly due cause its great title.
But if you have picked it up, you can pick it up first hence it is releasing first before ToGf. But Dont pass up ToGf its an incredible game, Its my favorite of the series I love Abyss I picked up the ps2 version and will be picking up the 3D version too, but Graces is on my top list, tho imma get Abyss 3D first since it releases before it. Plus, Graces and Abyss release is a month apart in america. and in Eu get it in the summer for ToGf :O

But this is no offense to Abyss players at all, I like Graces F more, but Abyss is right next to it in my list it really is :D

No offense taken but for me Grace F is trying to be to more flashy with hi ogui, something my eyes won't take. (Star wars force unleash 2 is the same) but I get it if it come out in australia (I import TotA since no shop sell it even though it pass the release date) but even if you play Abyss the 3ds version fix most of the bugs and problem like the hi ogui spell lock bug I think I have yet to try but I been pass area that had bugs and problem and they haven't glitch on me.

like you said Grace f is a momth later but if you can get abyss/able to play 3ds abyss it well worth the time to spend a few playthrough on plus it on a handheld so it great for those time your going out.

Downside it not multplayer.

though um can someone tell me what costume are in Xilla (including DLC.)

U.Flame
December 22nd, 2011, 11:22 AM
RM 3 dones't really need a tranlation patch i haven't finish the game (i got ToP X halfway through playing RM3.)

but I also playing TotA 3ds and have to say this is sorta better than grace f cause it on a handheld and isn't either in japan only or badly translated. I respect people who like grace f but to me abyss is more wroth the money for those who couldn't get the ps2 version.

a topic

what are the most tragic moments in tales games

I'm not saying Abyss isn't good, in fact, in my opinion it's the best damn Tales game ever made! I'm just saying the 3DS version isn't worth the money if you already own the PS2 version. So I'm getting Graces!

Tragic Tales moment? Arietta's entire life. We killed everything she ever loved and let her die miserable. I know it has to happen but sometimes I think the party are bastards for doing that.

I'm having a problem in Radiant Mythology 2. I've done 92% of the missions. I've done every available mission Chat provides and I've spoken to everyone and I think I've done everyone's missions. So what's the 8% I'm missing? No one has anything else for me.

Cherrim
December 22nd, 2011, 01:32 PM
I found Arietta too annoying to be tragic, to be honest. Though I do think the nicest thing the party could have done for her (and a lot of people) would have been to let Jade kill her when he first had the chance. <_<

thedestinedblade
December 22nd, 2011, 02:53 PM
what are the most tragic moments in tales games

I'd say Leon's whole story through out ToD/ToD2. Kinda feel bad that Stahn was killed off too.

A particular moment doesn't come to mind though. Grune disappearing in Legendia maybe? lol

darklord18
December 23rd, 2011, 04:52 AM
I found Arietta too annoying to be tragic, to be honest. Though I do think the nicest thing the party could have done for her (and a lot of people) would have been to let Jade kill her when he first had the chance. <_<

frankly I know 70% of abyss story way before getting abyss on 3ds and i starting to find myself strange

I don't luke (same as I don't hate emil.)
I love fighting all the god general (not including dist.)
I find Dist a complete idiot and can't laugh at him unless it Jade being Jade on him.
I find all god general past tragic in some way.

My tragic moments well i jsut list them in types since I be writing a whole 2 pages.

3 character tragic past.
tales game do this just right, there no overkill nor not explain, and there always a few character who past just make me cry, like Mithos, when i buy a new tales game i never expect to see a character that i just feel like crying for.

2 fighting against NPC.

yeah this one is mainly ToS were there two fights were your force to kill two NPC. if you can guss who then i don't really need to say why just cause I feel the pain the group and lloyd feel.

1 Team mates death.

yeah you been grinding your favorite character, getting alot of skill best weapon and out of no were you have to fight him and kill them, Only to find that they had a reason to or were force into it, even though I hate zelos I amit I cry for his death since it was forshadow and I didn't expect him to really die, and even if you see your most hated character die, you just got to be sad when you find out they did it cause of something like marina for Leon or Selo for zelos (sorry for spelling) and in some case I feel sorry for them. Like when you find out that the person Leon die for never like him and was only following order, ouch.

what i trying to say is even my hate character I just feel sorry for when I find out they had a good reason to betray you.

U.Flame
December 27th, 2011, 05:20 PM
My Wii is revived and I'm playing Symphonia 2 again! The story is decent but I'm in love with the battle system! It's so flexible, huge, and just plain enhanced from Abyss, it's beautiful! Plus the additional four shortcuts make for an awesome moveset. I just really wish 1st player could play as the Symphonian characters, and that they would level up...But I'm happy with stuffing my party with monsters!

Anyone want to share their proud monsters? My favorites are Orion, Jormungandr, and of course, Kitty Kat.

darklord18
December 27th, 2011, 06:16 PM
my are my two Two sword dancers, and kitty cat

ソラ
December 27th, 2011, 09:53 PM
I got my N3DS. Now I have to wait atleast a month and some odd days till Abyss 3D comes out.
Imma re-play Abyss on the ps2 soon, I have a file already for it, just need to play it.

But yeah Abyss is my 2nd favorite.
I love all them, except for Dist and Mohs. Dist annoys me so much.
But I do love it when Jade is Jade on him.

U.Flame
December 29th, 2011, 07:43 PM
I feel kind of sorry for Dist. Poor guy is such a loner. But he is a selfish bastard. I still wonder what horrible 3-second torture did Jade do to him that got an immediate confession and fear?

darklord18
December 30th, 2011, 12:42 AM
I got my N3DS. Now I have to wait atleast a month and some odd days till Abyss 3D comes out.
Imma re-play Abyss on the ps2 soon, I have a file already for it, just need to play it.

But yeah Abyss is my 2nd favorite.
I love all them, except for Dist and Mohs. Dist annoys me so much.
But I do love it when Jade is Jade on him.

ok I going to ask how do you level up a steal FCS since I going to try to steal the C Core from neiblien (spelling wrong) boss when i can.

also were the best garb, EXP farming spots after killing Van the first time.

U.Flame
December 30th, 2011, 11:06 AM
I mapped out a floor in Gladsheim and it looks EXACTLY like a swastika! Coincidense or hidden massage?

Wansen
December 31st, 2011, 01:13 PM
Hidden messeage/reference depending on what type of place it is or a Coincidence if the people/people in power that are there arn't like nazi's at all or don't have anything nazi/faschist about them.

U.Flame
January 1st, 2012, 03:13 PM
It's a little confusing. Gladsheim's rooms are supposed to be randomized, but when I mapped one out, the swastika design was really clear. Gladsheim does have some other weird stuff going on. (such as Alpha, Omega, and other symbols on the giant enemies) So I wouldn't be too surprised if this room is really supposed to look like a swastika. I just don't know if it's the Nazi swastika or the good fortune swastika, I know there's a difference. I'll post a picture of my map when I find it.

Wansen
January 1st, 2012, 04:54 PM
Yeah the one on the angle is a swatika and the one thats a cube is the good one. XD;
But that's pretty funky. What game is it from?

Sora
January 3rd, 2012, 06:22 PM
I feel kind of sorry for Dist. Poor guy is such a loner. But he is a selfish bastard. I still wonder what horrible 3-second torture did Jade do to him that got an immediate confession and fear?
I can't really feel sorry for Dist. In fact I just laugh at him and such. Doesn't help that he's a tenacious cockroach and [spoiler under this, though i think most if not all here have played abyss]. I feel more sorry for Jade for having to put up with him, haha. Not saying that I dislike Dist or anything though, before any of ya'll get that idea.

Speaking of Abyss though, Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Legendia were both of Famitsu's 'Top 20 Tear-Jerkers'. I think that what the list was. I'm too lazy to find the source, but you can check it out yourself if you look it up I'm sure.

darklord18
January 4th, 2012, 03:57 AM
ok I got a glitch in Tales of the abyss 3ds

I got all six weapon to fight the secret boss, i know there no scene to trigger the event battle but i been to the area but the thing is it doesn't trigger i press a on the graph and nothing.

Is there a scene that trigger the event?

Kura
January 4th, 2012, 05:42 PM
Totally getting Tales of the Abyss for 3DS..

@_@ Also.. totally cosplaying either Anise or Tear.. but I don't know which one. I'm thinking Anise because I look shorter (I'm 5' tall) and younger, instead of womanly.. even though I am 22 ._.

Sora
January 4th, 2012, 05:47 PM
I can't really help you darklord, since it's been forever since I played Abyss, and thus don't remember what exactly you need to do for Nebilim.

Pics if you cosplay, Kura! I would totally love to see you in an Anise cosplay (Or a Tear one if you choose Tear instead, but I like Anise more than Tear, soooo...~)! My first cosplay was originally going to be Sync from Abyss, but instead I went for Mithos from Symphonia. Never regretted my decision. ♥ I love my Mithos cosplay soooo much. The boots, the clothing, and even the wig now that the bangs are styled the way they're supposed to be finally. Hoping they'll continue to stay styled the way I want them until the next Convention.

Kura
January 4th, 2012, 10:01 PM
@_@ LOL I changed my mind already.. I'm going to be armour-Lightning from FFXIII-2.. I needed a bigger challenge..

Hmm..
I might actually do both cosplays (lightning and anise) .. but this will involve more monies >____>...

>_> Why am I so torn?!

I'll have to see what people who know me IRL think I would suit more. I kind of want to try armour though..
If I can get a Tales group going I will be Anise.. otherwise I am doing Lightning because it's more epic.

darklord18
January 5th, 2012, 12:54 AM
is the secret boss in TotA a 2nd playthrough boss?

anyway also what the grade reward from beating the final boss on hard?

and a topic.

what the funniest thing you done in a battle

missing a emeny with a hi ogui not once, not two, but three times, frist was guy soaring light spear, yeah i didn't know it knock back was so far. next was luke with gaurdian field, and tear cause jade spell kill the emeny.

still got the grade reward lol

edited here another one

Just use tear 2nd hi ogui (having a a clear file and my first playthrough and this is on my first playthrough) and jsut as I use the add on hi ogui the end dies and it lock the game up for a few seconds lol.

Miss Doronjo
January 13th, 2012, 06:03 AM
So I believe ToS for 3DS is coming to North America next month...any other thoughts?

ソラ
January 13th, 2012, 10:20 AM
So I believe ToS for 3DS is coming to North America next month...any other thoughts?
It's not ToS, it is Tales of the Abyss that is going on the 3DS next month :|.

Sora
January 13th, 2012, 11:47 AM
Knowing Shawn, I'm preeeetty sure that was just a typo, Mattie. Otherwise you would have seen a post from be jumping and squeeing for joy.

Anyways, I'm probably not going to get it. I can't seem to play Tales of games alone, and I don't have a 3DS regardless.

U.Flame
January 18th, 2012, 05:25 PM
I don't know if I've said this before, but I really want to say that I love all of you guys for being fans of the Tales series. It is truly one of the greatest series I know yet I don't know ANYONE outsidethe internet who has even heard of it! The place I least expected love for this series is here on Pokecommunity. Pokecommunity is already heaven for hackers and general Pokemon fans, and the people are not judgmental at all about sexuality. Having a club of my favorite series here just makes me feel SO loved! I can't even think of the right words to dedcribe my joy and fulfilment here at Pokecommunity because of you guys! Thank you for being fans of the Tales series, it makes me so happy. I wish people around me would know about the series, it isn't as loved and popular as it shiuld be. But in here it is. I love all of you people!

Now to bring up actual conversation. Brawl hacking has just reached a new level of amazing: Tales characters in Brawl! I'll post a link when the site is back. (It's currently on strike to protest SOPA.)

Sora
January 19th, 2012, 05:26 AM
I know several people who knows the Tales of Series, (or at least Tales of Symphonia), some of them which is my doing. For one, my best friend and Sister both know and love the game, and we've had suuuuuch great times playing it. Then there's a friend of mine who I lent my game to (what Tara lent her game? yeah, she did, but because she wasn't really playing it at the time), and another friend who I got to play Symphonia after I got her to play Abyss. Now she's a bigger Tales of Fan than me, ahaha.

There's also a few other people who know of the game, like someone who my best friend's brother told to (later on he learned who I was and blamed it all on me that he wasted a summer, haha), as well as someone in College. Yup, I'm lucky in the Symphonia regard. I just wish to be more lucky when the next convention comes around. I would love to see more than a Sheena at one.

Oooo. While you can't post the link yet, do you think you can tell us which characters?

U.Flame
January 20th, 2012, 10:29 AM
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=33921.0

So far these are the characters I've found:
Lloyd: He's part of the above project. 90% complete and 100% epic! He has his own moveset and is so far, one of the best Tales hacks I've seen!

Luke: A model hack of Link. he looks exactly like Luke but has Link's moveset. At first I wondered why since Luke wouldn't normally have bombs, arrows, and boomerangs. But then I realized they're both left-handed.

Colette: A texture hack of Peach. She looks exactly like Colette. (but with Peach's hair) She has Colette's moveset but instead of pans, tennis rackets, and golf clubs, Colette use a pow hammer, chakram, and a spiked, black chakram.

Zelos: A model hack of Marth. He has the moveset of Marth, which is nice since they both fight with swords in an elegant manner.

Nightmare Goddess
January 21st, 2012, 02:49 PM
A Tales Series club? I have to join.

Some information about myself:

Favorite Tales Games: Eternia, Legendia, and Symphonia.
Favorite Tales Characters: Zelos Wilder, Alice (though you knew that from looking at my avatar and signature), Jade Curtiss, Norma Beatty, Decus, Dist the Rose (or is it Reaper? :D), Keele Zeibel, Meredy, and Moses Sandor.
Favorite Tales Ships: Alice x Decus, Zelos x Colette, Sheena x Lloyd, Stella x Senel, Norma x Grune, and Meredy x Keele.
Favorite Characters to Play as: Zelos, Guy, Senel, Jay, Sheena, Rutee, and Leon.
Favorite Artes: Bloody Rose, Swallow Storm, Demon's Lance, Revive, Nurse, A Season in Hell, Decus Trombe, and Decus Lawine.
Favorite Hi-Ougi's: Decus' Sturm und Drang ("ALICE-CHAN!!!"), Zelos' Shining Bind, and Leon's Majin Rengokusatsu.

ソラ
February 1st, 2012, 11:50 PM
Amazon been irritating ;-;

ToGF still says Dec 31st 2012, when the release date is already known for weeks.
But Tales of the Abyss the 3DS version has been changed to it's correct release date, but it says "Get it on the release date delivery" But never had that on the option. So that $0.99 shipping turned to $9.99 1 Day shipping ;-;. But it's okay.

But 13 more days till Tota 3D :)

U.Flame
February 17th, 2012, 11:55 AM
I have more Tales characters in Brawl! Richter was recently released, so combine that with Emil, Palmacoasta, and The Wilderness of Sadness, and you've got an epic battle! I'll post pics when I can. ^_^

Miss Doronjo
February 17th, 2012, 12:01 PM
So, has anyone got the ToA game for 3Ds?

I'm playing it right now.

U.Flame
February 17th, 2012, 12:21 PM
I wish. I'm using my money to pre-order Graces. I already have PS2 Abyss anyways. Any notable differences for Abyss? (Besides the 3D and controls)

Sora
February 17th, 2012, 02:27 PM
I heard that its basically the same, among other things but I'm not one to talk. I didn't get it for the 3DS and to be quite honest I don't think I will for reasons I've stated before. If I had a ps3 I would get graces, but I suppose the best I could do is possibly get the game anyways and maybe play it in my cousin's ps3 or something.

On another note, its been said that one or two other tales of games will eventually be on the PlayStation vita. I would show details, but I'm on my phone. However, I will say that the reason another tales of game will be remade for the vita (like innocence) is because of a message that showed at the end of the game on the vital. Yup.

ソラ
February 17th, 2012, 06:28 PM
So, has anyone got the ToA game for 3Ds?

I'm playing it right now.
Yeah, I got it:) I was playing earlier. Taking a break.

And Gamestop and Ebgames are getting the Pre-order bonus for Graces F. Amazon, Best Buy, etc are not getting the preorder, only Gamestop and Ebagames. It comes with costumes, and XMB style theme for the PS3. I miss this pre-order bonus in the Japanese version ;-;, So I'll make it up by pre-ordering it at Gamestop, which I did already. :)

@UFlame, the biggest difference is the loading time. The Graphics got changed a bit to fit the 3DS it looks, they fix the glitches (I heard, idk what the glitches are, I just heard all or most of it got fixed), but everything besides that seem the same.

Sora
February 18th, 2012, 08:36 PM
noooooo not my overworld glitch

The only glitch that I really remember in Abyss was one in which you can travel anywhere on the world by walking. I used that glitch to get some items from Keterburg at the beginning of the game on one of my files, because I tranferred my Gald, aha.

Yeah. I still don't know about Graces. Don't have a PS3, soo. I'm just going to stick with Symphonia, which is the only game I can play, other than DoTNW but chances are if I play it it'll be to just play around with the old cast. =u=

U.Flame
February 19th, 2012, 12:59 PM
Gamestop and Ebgames are getting the Pre-order bonus for Graces F. Amazon, Best Buy, etc are not getting the preorder, only Gamestop and Ebagames. It comes with costumes, and XMB style theme for the PS3. I miss this pre-order bonus in the Japanese version ;-;, So I'll make it up by pre-ordering it at Gamestop, which I did already. :)


YES! YEEEEEEES! I've ALWAYS wanted special costumes and in-game pre order bonuses! Thank you Gamestop!

Have the costumes been revealed yet? I hope they're Tales cameos like PS3 Vesperia!

ソラ
February 19th, 2012, 02:30 PM
YES! YEEEEEEES! I've ALWAYS wanted special costumes and in-game pre order bonuses! Thank you Gamestop!

Have the costumes been revealed yet? I hope they're Tales cameos like PS3 Vesperia!

Yes this is what Tales Series Official Facebook Fanpage (http://www.facebook.com/tales/posts/229633620461579) said

Pre-order Tales of Graces f at any U.S. GameStop or Canadian EB Games to receive an exclusive Tales of Destiny DLC costume pack when you pick up your copy of the game on March 13th.

Along with the Tales of Destiny costume pack, players will also receive a free Tales of Graces f XMB theme with “graceful” icons and dynamic wallpaper. The Tales of Destiny DLC costume pack pre-order bonus is exclusive to GameStop and EB Games, and will not be available for future download.

Check out some of the links right here :

US: http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/games/tales-of-graces-f/92854#bonusFeatures

CN: http://www.ebgames.ca/ps3/games/tales-of-graces-f-with-bonus/310027

Here is Screenshots of the Pre-order costumes

http://i.imgur.com/hsTVq.png
http://i.imgur.com/qJbBf.png
http://i.imgur.com/7dSVO.png

Joshawott
March 1st, 2012, 12:26 PM
I recently got Tales of the Abyss for the 3DS and am absolutely loving it! May I please join?

U.Flame
March 1st, 2012, 12:34 PM
March is here! Two more weeks until Graces f! Yay, Destiny costumes!

ソラ
March 6th, 2012, 06:34 PM
Okay. I found the best Tales of Graces F Screenshot evar.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/417174_3575977046404_1482420138_3869691_1933526876_n.jpg

Tales Series (http://www.facebook.com/tales) has a lot of English screenshots up if you want to look. They also have on their facebook character app it has all the infos and some screenshots of their character for Tales of Graces F :). Yay in 7 days it releases :)

darklord18
March 7th, 2012, 05:05 AM
i import Tales of the hero and can't wait. (one reason i want it cause leon, Luke, Lloyd, RUbia, yuri and flynn are fully playable and well it the type of game that i think would keep me playing till Grace F come to australia. so dose anyone know if it will come to australia if so do we get the pre order?

which character would you like to cosplay as and why?

well for me Luke short hair would be me, since yeah i like luke as one of my favorite character (sorry leon/judas.)

ソラ
March 7th, 2012, 02:03 PM
I don't if this is a glitch at all, or anything on Tota3D. But it was weird I was facing Sync on the tartarus, and Guy was going to use his mystic arte, and somehow Sync stopped it with one of his artes, and after that Sync wouldnt make a single move, when we attack he would block occasionally, I couldnt get into my items, cause Guy died when he was gonna use his mystic arte, but Sync stopped him and killed him, and I couldnt go in overdrive either. O_O, it was weird I won, but he didnt even try to attack not once after he stopped Guy's Mystic arte :O.

Also 6 more days till Graces f :)

Sora
March 7th, 2012, 04:13 PM
That definitely sounds like a bug/glitch to me. I've never had that happen to me on my PS2 version, and as far as I know they didn't really change much. At least not anything that would cause a glitch like that. But idk. At least you won!

ソラ
March 8th, 2012, 01:12 PM
Yeah, I think it was a cool bug/glitch :).

Also, Some people got Graces F early. I gotta say the Voices sound amazing imo. No dual audio, a few people are mad but I dont care, Im happy it is getting brought over here. Also FlitheRich, and some dude name Ted did a voice Commentary co-op walkthrough of a promotion video for Tales fan on Namco's youtube page for fans. Here it is the video

v/1HBDmRC5NA4

Joshawott
March 8th, 2012, 03:06 PM
Alright, new topic:

Who is the sexiest girl in the Tales series? :D

darklord18
March 8th, 2012, 11:59 PM
On another note, its been said that one or two other tales of games will eventually be on the PlayStation vita. I would show details, but I'm on my phone. However, I will say that the reason another tales of game will be remade for the vita (like innocence) is because of a message that showed at the end of the game on the vital. Yup.

not only that there were pic/secret artwork from a scene in ToI R showing the stuff from ToH and ToT so yeah there might be a much need remake for tempest which i happy to get a vita for if tempest remake dose happen but for now we can only hope.

also another topic if Hearts or tempest do get remake what are some thing you want them to add/remove or change?

Sora
March 9th, 2012, 11:39 AM
I don't think anyone had really played Tempest or Hearts here so I don't think anyone can answer the question aha.

As for "sexiest" girl... I don't really know. I don't really think of that when looking at the female characters. Most I think of it 'Awww how cute' if the character is cute. As for 'sexy' though that's another story.

ソラ
March 9th, 2012, 12:05 PM
Hm. Well for me as for sexiest Girl. I cant choose between Sophie, Pascal, Milla, or Tear :o

But I will might say Sophie. :3 Im just like inlove with her~

also 4 more days till ToGf:)

parallelzero
March 9th, 2012, 11:44 PM
not only that there were pic/secret artwork from a scene in ToI R showing the stuff from ToH and ToT so yeah there might be a much need remake for tempest which i happy to get a vita for if tempest remake dose happen but for now we can only hope.

also another topic if Hearts or tempest do get remake what are some thing you want them to add/remove or change?

It'd just be nice seeing Hearts and Tempest done up right with more modern battle systems. If they redo Hearts, though, I can see them just redoing the sprites akin to what they did for Destiny and changing the 2D battle system to something more fluid, while still 2D.

I'm expecting my Graces f to come in on Tuesday, so I hope the mail doesn't slow it down. >.>

Kano Shuuya
March 9th, 2012, 11:51 PM
I'll probably forget to post here unless I see the topic title on the main page when someone posts in it, but hi, I wanna join anyway. 8D;

Also, I'm so tempted to get a PS3 just to play Graces, no one has any idea.


Who is the sexiest girl in the Tales series? :D

Sheena says Hello.

Miss Doronjo
March 10th, 2012, 05:49 AM
I added you in; and just so you guys know, I'm totally going to revamp the front page soon so it looks ~ prettier~ .

Anyway, I'm excited for ToGf myself; those costumes are awesomeeee *_* Though first I too, need a PS3, haha... But I'm seriously going to get one just for that game. :x

Anyway, the sexiest girl?
I dunno, Sheena? Xilla? (Arietta, hehe) I haven't thought of it myself. @___@

Netto Azure
March 10th, 2012, 04:29 PM
Was bored, might as well join this club.

Or not hehe.

Sora
March 12th, 2012, 05:54 PM
I added you in; and just so you guys know, I'm totally going to revamp the front page soon so it looks ~ prettier~ .
You better keep Symphonia on that front page. :c Or else I'll cry.

I might buy Graces f eventually and see about playing it on my cousin's PS3 or something. But as for right now I don't have the system nor the money. =w=;

ソラ
March 12th, 2012, 06:20 PM
A launch trailer of Graces F came up today.

v/d9ZKKC72_Vc

Tomorrow is the day <3. Mine shipped already all I have to do is wait :)

parallelzero
March 12th, 2012, 10:58 PM
My copy should show up sometime before lunch tomorrow since it shipped yesterday morning. <3 But then I'm stuck with a conundrum: use the default costumes or the ones I got for pre-ordering.

darklord18
March 12th, 2012, 11:03 PM
i just got Tales of the hero and I love it.

to bad grace isn't release in australia yet

Netto Azure
March 12th, 2012, 11:07 PM
Egad, I am not one to own Home Consoles so it's going to be a while until I do start playing ToG. :U

Or I could Emulate it somehow.

Sora
March 12th, 2012, 11:16 PM
Didn't you just go against emulating Symphonia and now you say you might emulate Graces? :c I see how it is.

Symphonia has some news but with the Graces hype going around and no one caring about Symphonia 'cept me we should have a topic for Graces!

If you've played Graces f, who was the character you used the most? If you haven't played but seen the characters/will be playing it etc etc what character do you think you'll be using the most?

Netto Azure
March 12th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Didn't you just go against emulating Symphonia and now you say you might emulate Graces? :c I see how it is.


It's mostly a Controller problem when I thought about it. My Laptop could probably handle it I think...

Miss Doronjo
March 13th, 2012, 04:37 AM
If you've played Graces f, who was the character you used the most? If you haven't played but seen the characters/will be playing it etc etc what character do you think you'll be using the most?

I've always played as the lead male character in each Tales game, even Luke fon Fabre > Guy, so most likely I'll be using Asbel. Maybe Hubert as well ,cause' he looks cool to use.

ソラ
March 13th, 2012, 09:05 AM
If you've played Graces f, who was the character you used the most? If you haven't played but seen the characters/will be playing it etc etc what character do you think you'll be using the most?

Sophie or Asbel.

as Ive said before im in love with Sophie haha.

also I got my game right when i woke up it felt amazing :3 Its installing the game data atm.

I took a picture of my collection I was too lazy to edit it to make it smaller on the picture but ehh
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/422923_392877007408004_100000571240366_1396381_1154414279_n.jpg

Miss Doronjo
March 13th, 2012, 09:46 AM
Tales of Xilla... ;w;

I saw the battle system for that game, and it's amazing. @3@

ソラ
March 13th, 2012, 09:53 AM
Tales of Xilla... ;w;

I saw the battle system for that game, and it's amazing. @3@

In my opinion Graces has a better battle system. But that just my opinion.

Miss Doronjo
March 13th, 2012, 10:00 AM
ToGf has no TP, right? So you're allowed to use artes over, and over again without consequence?

ソラ
March 13th, 2012, 10:28 AM
ToGf has no TP, right? So you're allowed to use artes over, and over again without consequence?

Yeah no tp. But it does have a bit of a down side the CC system when the CC runs out you cant do much combos so to build it up you wait or press and hold Square to build it up faster.

institutions
March 13th, 2012, 10:35 AM
I'd like to join buuuuuut...
The only Tales games i've finished are Symphonia and Vesperia :/
I'm playing through Abyss right now on 3DS, though :3

I'm limited in which games I can play because I don't have any working Playstation consoles. I just have an Xbox 360 that I rarely use, a Wii, a Gamecube, and a 3DS :S

Cherrim
March 13th, 2012, 11:20 AM
So long as you are a fan of any aspect of the Tales franchise, you are welcome here. :P

Guys, I get to pick up ToGf this week. :'D I originally wasn't going to get it anywhere near launch (since I still need to save up for other things ;_;) but my brother's birthday is on Thursday and he told me he wants that as his gift. We're living together in the summer so I do have to wait until May to play it but eeee he gave me an excuse to go buy it, haha. I'm excited!

Sora
March 13th, 2012, 11:29 AM
I'd like to join buuuuuut...
The only Tales games i've finished are Symphonia and Vesperia :/
I'm playing through Abyss right now on 3DS, though :3

I'm limited in which games I can play because I don't have any working Playstation consoles. I just have an Xbox 360 that I rarely use, a Wii, a Gamecube, and a 3DS :S
You're like meeeee. c'here. ♥

I myself have only beaten Abyss and the two Symphonia games. I've tried playing Legendia and Phantasia but I got stuck in Phantasia and stopped playing. As for Legendia I just couldn't get into it; it didn't help that it wasn't multiplayer. ;x So I'm the stubborn mule who seems to only care about Symphonia with a bit on Abyss on the side aha. Only a bit though because I prefer Symphonia to Abyss and I didn't get the 3DS version of Abyss so I'm all 'ehh' about it.

institutions
March 13th, 2012, 04:08 PM
You probably aren't missing out on much without the 3DS Abyss if you beat the PS2 one.
The 3D in the game isn't even that good, so I just play it in 2D D:
It's actually easier to focus on the characters in 2D. In 3D they have weird jagged-y edges.

Should really get back to playing Abyss. I kind of put it on hiatus when the Minecraft server I play on got updated, and after I got Animal Crossing City Folk :/

Symphonia was the best Gamecube game! :3 Did soooo many playthroughs.
Whenever I have to name towns or worlds in games/stories, I always steal from Symphonia and use Iselia, Sylvarant, and a few others :S


I'm almost tempted to purchase a PS3 just to play the numerous Tales games...
Plus Uncharted 1/2/3.

Sora
March 14th, 2012, 06:09 AM
Nah. I'm not missing out on anything but being able to play Abyss again. But the 3DS isn't multiplayer so my sister would have to just sit and watch rather than just play and I prefer it when we both play Tales of Games. I heard they fixed some glitches and other such things but in general the PS2 version is better. But hey, as long as more people get into the game this way.

Symphonia is my favorite game ever and basically my bible. ♥ I've done numerous playthroughs and I've actually been meaning to do another and hope it doesn't corrupt on me sob.

ソラ
March 14th, 2012, 10:16 AM
I find the 3DS version of Abyss better, faster loading times fixed up glitches, the only downside is the sound is a bit low even on max, well for me that is, than again i am 80% deaf, but i can hear the voices fine. But this is all my opinion, I still love the Ps2 version as well :)

Also, Graces F Im enjoying the voices, a bit off with the name changes for some items, but hey not every game gonna translate a perfect english from Japanese so they need to change somethings. Thought I didnt get the preorder from Gamestop cause they didnt take my money, so I had to order from amazon, but I got the preorder from a friend he let me use his PSN account so YAY :)

Kano Shuuya
March 14th, 2012, 11:10 AM
I like the 3DS version of Abyss better, as well. I never got too far on the PS2 version, because I'm not one of those people that can easily sit there in one spot for hours and comfortably get too far in a game. It's easier for me to just be able to pick up my 3DS, wherever I happen to be, and kill things on Abyss. xD Also, the 3D for it is fine in my opinion, not as good as games that were overall made for that system, but good enough.

Also, yes, it does load faster. I was glad. xD

As for Graces, I don't have the right system. If I wanted to play it, I'd probably have to risk using an emulator, and ew. Just ew. Don't even think a PS3 emulator exists, or that'd be my guess, that's how much I know about them. xD The graphics look so pretty, though. I might eventually watch LPs, or clips on Youtube.

thedestinedblade
March 14th, 2012, 02:33 PM
Just got my copy of Graces F. I'll play a bit of it later tonight. Hopefully I enjoy it more than Vesperia at the very least.

ソラ
March 17th, 2012, 06:50 PM
Mann, I love this game in english, So much information I missed, though I guessed right about some of the story from where im up to, I haven't beaten it yet, Idk how close, but Im like 24 hours in the game haha. I love the voice acting soo much, the skits make me lol, Pascal and Sophie are like the best characters imo. lol

thedestinedblade
March 17th, 2012, 10:24 PM
How can you not love Pascal and her awesome victory quotes? :laugh:

md8sbSjCaNM

Anyways, I've been playing quite a bit lately. Was getting owned by the boss at the bottom of the Glacier Ruins so I decided to explore and doing some sidequests. Luckily I came upon Asbel's Yuri outfit, lol.

ソラ
March 17th, 2012, 10:52 PM
How can you not love Pascal and her awesome victory quotes? :laugh:

md8sbSjCaNM

Anyways, I've been playing quite a bit lately. Was getting owned by the boss at the bottom of the Glacier Ruins so I decided to explore and doing some sidequests. Luckily I came upon Asbel's Yuri outfit, lol.

Right I love her especially in Skits :).

I just got the Yuri outfit, im a late bloomer on the carta cards, Im more focus on the story haha. Cheria's Rita outfit is gonna be a pain, I tried to get it multiple times in the JPN version, made me want to throw the controller at the COMP you play against haha. Its good to practice the Carta game like vs :). I need to collect i think 20 to get Sophie's Patty Outfit, 30 is the mark where you can try to get Cheria's Rita's out fit.

But im falling in love with sophie again <3

thedestinedblade
March 18th, 2012, 09:34 AM
Do you happen to know how to get some of the other costumes?

parallelzero
March 18th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Royal crablettes... Royal crablettes... Royal Crablettes...

Yeah, the boss in the ice ruins is a pain in the ass. I had to drop the difficulty down just because I was getting fed up with it. Seemed no matter how much I grind, I was having no luck. Might have been my party though, since I was using Asbel, Cheria, Sophie and Pascal.

What I like about Asbel's Yuri costume is that they use the Alexei battle theme from Vesperia for normal battles. That song is badass. The battle themes from Destiny and Destiny 2 that occur with the pre-order costumes are nice too, and certainly help in areas with bad battle themes. *coughStrahtacough*

thedestinedblade
March 18th, 2012, 10:54 AM
lol, I wasn't even aware you could drop the difficulty. I think I went with the same party but had Malik instead of Cheria (just for the in-battle cutscene)

Regret not pre-ordering it; I really like Sophie's Rutee costume. :/

I think the only problem I have with the game so far is that soundtrack is on the bland side. I know Sakuraba doesn't like to change things up, but come on... Everything else has been great. The voice acting has been pretty top notch too.

ソラ
March 18th, 2012, 11:39 AM
Do you happen to know how to get some of the other costumes?

Yes I know how to get all of the in game costumes.
But the in game ones can be obtained in the PSN right now for 1.99 each.
Except for the ToV Cameo costumes from the Carta game. But the ones on the PSN atm you can get them for free. I can give you a guide for it, but its the translated one for the Japanese version, but it still can help, some of the translated city name, and item might be a tad difference, but it can help you.

https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARRHUgO6_FEhZGpjNDV4Nl81Z3d2NW52Yzk
here you go. it isnt a walkthrough guide its more of a side quest/item getting type guide

thedestinedblade
March 18th, 2012, 08:14 PM
Thanks, the guide helped quite a bit. I'm trying to collect those cards, but it's annoying finding the ones on the field since it appears to being completely random whether or not they'll show up.

It is great though not having to worry about saving TP for upcoming boss fights. You can pretty much go all out in every battle. :D

Zeroblivion
March 19th, 2012, 01:50 AM
Can I join?
I'm a Tales of the Abyss and Symphonia fan myself.
I watch some Tales of animes too. And of course, the games, where it all began.

ソラ
March 19th, 2012, 02:16 AM
Thanks, the guide helped quite a bit. I'm trying to collect those cards, but it's annoying finding the ones on the field since it appears to being completely random whether or not they'll show up.

It is great though not having to worry about saving TP for upcoming boss fights. You can pretty much go all out in every battle. :D

Yeah, the CC system is awesome. it does have somewhat of a downside, but I like it over the old tales system, even tho I love the older tales battle system. :)
Im trying to get Chaos, and Evil atm, I was too lazy to in the beginning but now Im just grinding to get them, that and for Gald, need to upgrade shops, since they fixed my favorite glitch in the game D: *goes back to JPN version to do the glitch for pure happiness D:* hahah.

thedestinedblade
March 19th, 2012, 08:33 AM
How much of a change is Xillia's battle system from Graces?

ソラ
March 19th, 2012, 10:28 AM
How much of a change is Xillia's battle system from Graces?
Xillia's battle system is similar to old tales games, it has the free run, TP is back. I think the only good thing about the system is the Link artes, and Link Mystic artes. Thats about it.
Graces is one of the best battle systems in Tales imo.

U.Flame
March 19th, 2012, 11:06 AM
Aww, I feel left out. Even though I have my pre-ordered copy of Graces, my sister left the PS3 at my grandma's. So, at the moment, I'm occupied with Symphonia. I found out the person who voiced Presea is voicing Twilight Sparkle! ^_^

Cherrim
March 19th, 2012, 08:06 PM
:P Tara Strong voices tooons of characters. She's in like... everything. And she's awesome.

But you're just as left out as me. xD; I own Graces too, technically, since I got it for my brother for his birthday, but I can't play it until the summer when we're living together since he has it now.

Kano Shuuya
March 19th, 2012, 09:00 PM
Tara Strong is one the best things about the voice acting world.

I believe she was also Raven in Teen Titans, and Timmy in Fairly Odd Parents..

But anyhoo, I'm so sad that I can't play Graces. I'm actually "watching" ToGf on Youtube, because that's the only way that I can see the story. I might not be able to play through the dungeons / fights which is half the fun, but oh well. ;;

Sora
March 19th, 2012, 09:17 PM
I might take up "watching" ToGf myself if I ever feel like it, but I'm not going to be able to play the game myself for a long while yet. Soooo, I'm doing what U_Flame is doing and occupying myself with Symphonia. Started a new file this past week and I'm hoping to finish it without it corrupting on me. ;w;

Cherrim
March 19th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Now I kinda want to start a file on Symphonia... except I started Legendia the other night and I'm hoping to force myself to get through it since I've never beaten it before.

But I seriously don't like any of the characters so far in Legendia and I find the battle system to be horrible. ;~;

Sora
March 19th, 2012, 09:26 PM
Join us Erica! Replay Symphonia! ♥

ugghhhh Legendia. I have the game and I tried to play it, but I never got far. I'm not a fan of any of the other characters either, and the battle system sucks. I also didn't like the fact that it wasn't multiplayer so my sister couldn't play it with me. So I quickly lost interest in it. Now even if I did want to play it I can't because we don't have a working PS2.

Cherrim
March 19th, 2012, 09:40 PM
Yeah, if it were multiplayer I think I'd like it better since then my roommates and I could all play together instead of me being stuck with the controller. Although I imagine they'd probably play for like half an hour and then leave me on my own since the battle system is so difficult after Symphonia or Abyss's. ;~; (I can deal with the 2D linear system in the handhelds but what were they thinking doing it that way right after Symphonia so heavily improved it? Ugggh!)

parallelzero
March 19th, 2012, 10:09 PM
I got all the way through Legendia. I honestly didn't find it THAT bad aside from Shirley's dub voice. Oh god, that dub voice. Then again, it was Mieu's VA too, so...

Cherrim
March 19th, 2012, 10:11 PM
Oh, yeah, I never even mentioned the voices.

The voice actors don't bug me but all of the recording sounds so shoddy. There's an echo on pretty much everything. :( And you can't change text speed but whenever you press X to show the rest of the text, it also skips the rest of the voiced line!

/whinewhinewhine

/needs to just steal ToG from her brother when she sees him this week, srsly

Zeroblivion
March 19th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Have you forgot to join me in?
I was gonna join the club.

Netto Azure
March 20th, 2012, 07:13 AM
Jeez, I am so tempted to just go down to Gamestop this Spring Break, buy a used Wii and get Symphonia and just do a No-Life through this spring break.

But then again I am saving this $500 for summer school so...
@~@

Sora
March 20th, 2012, 07:45 AM
Have you forgot to join me in?
I was gonna join the club.
Welcome to the club! I'm sure Shawn/Miss Doronjo will add you onto the first page when he gets the chance. For now just feel free to join in any of the discussions.

Jeez, I am so tempted to just go down to Gamestop this Spring Break, buy a used Wii and get Symphonia and just do a No-Life through this spring break.

But then again I am saving this $500 for summer school so...
@~@
If not a used Wii then you can possibly see about getting a used Gamecube (unless you're planning on getting more Wii games in the future after buying Symphonia).

But alas school comes first. D;

thedestinedblade
March 20th, 2012, 09:45 AM
Xillia's battle system is similar to old tales games, it has the free run, TP is back. I think the only good thing about the system is the Link artes, and Link Mystic artes. Thats about it.
Graces is one of the best battle systems in Tales imo.

I assume that depending how Graces f sells here will factor in whether or not they decided to localize Xillia. I'd like to play it if not for Milla alone. Though I hear the game was quite short and lacking a lot of extras (I believe one of the designer's mentioning the game was rushed) Maybe they're already planning an enhanced version or director's cut? Let's just hope they don't port it to the Wii U...

Sora
March 21st, 2012, 05:37 AM
Xillia has two sides of the story right? That could possibly explain how short it is. I'm a little disappointed hearing how little extras are; it's probably because a lot of it is DLC which I'm not too big a fan of. Right now, I'm just waiting to see what Namco will be (re)making next. But before that, I'm waiting for June 20th to come around... or at least a preview of what's coming out in June. ;w;

Miss Doronjo
March 21st, 2012, 05:46 AM
Have you forgot to join me in?
I was gonna join the club.

Welcome to the club; hope you have fun. :3


Okay, do you guys mind if I bring up a topic question?

If you can change one thing about any one of the Namco Tales of Games, what would it be?

institutions
March 21st, 2012, 08:31 AM
I don't know if this counts as one thing about any one of the games, but I wish each game was released on more than one console.
I need to buy a PS3 for Graces f and Xillia, and even then I won't be able to play any of the PS2 ones.

U.Flame
March 23rd, 2012, 11:29 AM
I would make Phantasia release on more than just the GBA in America. But I supporse the brilliant fan translatation of the PS1 version makes up for it. Instead, I think I would change some of the games (like Legendia and 3DS Abyss) to be multiplayer.

Cherrim
March 23rd, 2012, 03:26 PM
More spinoffs translated to English. ;~; This is seriously like the only series ever that I actually like every spinoff I've played. The Tales characters just lend themselves so well to inane conversations and while my Japanese is good enough that I can usually follow plot in video games no problem, I definitely appreciate the Tales translations more than the originals because I can get all the nuances of conversation (ie: I can actually understand how and why Jade is making fun of people instead of just knowing that he is XD).

U.Flame
March 29th, 2012, 03:53 AM
Tales of the Abyss for the 3DS is amazing! Completely worth the multiple trips to many GameStops just to find one! Unlike other PS2 games I've seen ported to the 3DS, Abyss is a direct, virtually unedited port! The menus, features, the everything! It's just like the PS2 version! I also noticed bug fixes too (no more Asch glitch...) and also a strange bit of Engrish.

I haven't played the PS2 version in a while so correct me if I'm wrong. I remember when someone learns a new arte or AD skill when leveling up, it says "New Skill". The 3DS version says "New Skill Get". Also when the Overlimit bar is full, it says"Overlimit". The 3DS version says "Overlimits". Weird.

Netto Azure
March 29th, 2012, 09:17 AM
I haven't played the PS2 version in a while so correct me if I'm wrong. I remember when someone learns a new arte or AD skill when leveling up, it says "New Skill". The 3DS version says "New Skill Get". Also when the Overlimit bar is full, it says"Overlimit". The 3DS version says "Overlimits". Weird.

I didn't even notice that during my playthrough of the 3DS version lawlz.

Still the fast loading times more than makes up for any little Engrish quirks. o3o

U.Flame
March 29th, 2012, 10:56 AM
I don't mind a bit of Engrish, Abyss's awesomeness makes up for it. I just wonder how it happened. Why would they change it to that in the first place? Isn't it a port of the English PS2 version? Or is it a re-translation of the Japanese 3DS version?

thedestinedblade
March 29th, 2012, 04:28 PM
Speaking of Abyss, I plan on replaying it soon once I finish my current game (ToD2). Bought and finished the game back when it was originally released in '06, and haven't touched it since. Honestly don't remember much about the game itself aside from the open ending. :\

Cherrim
March 29th, 2012, 09:29 PM
Unlike other PS2 games I've seen ported to the 3DS, Abyss is a direct, virtually unedited port!
This actually makes me sad because I was really, really hoping they'd gather the voice cast together and voice the skits. :( I mean, it was a pipe dream but that would seriously have made me buy a 3DS just for that.

U.Flame
March 30th, 2012, 04:59 AM
This actually makes me sad because I was really, really hoping they'd gather the voice cast together and voice the skits. :( I mean, it was a pipe dream but that would seriously have made me buy a 3DS just for that.

True, but it's still much better than editing the crap out of it to the point where it's not even the same game anymore like Metal Gear Solid 3D.

institutions
March 30th, 2012, 07:28 AM
This actually makes me sad because I was really, really hoping they'd gather the voice cast together and voice the skits. :( I mean, it was a pipe dream but that would seriously have made me buy a 3DS just for that.

I never played the PS2 one, but I started playing this 3DS version after finishing Vesperia, and was a little disappointed that the skits weren't voiced D:

The only problem i've had with Abyss 3DS so far is the occasional jarring framerate drop.
Never happens in battle or in cutscenes though, only sometimes in the overworld map and rarely in certain town sections, so i'm fine with it.

thedestinedblade
March 30th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Despite disliking just about everything about ToS2, I was quite pleased they actually took the time to fully voice all the skits.

Wasn't Legendia the same? Though I think the skits were pretty few in number.

Cherrim
March 30th, 2012, 03:48 PM
The skits are voiced in Legendia, I guess, but they're also kind of awkward and half the cutscenes [that I have seen so far] were just in skit form anyway. o_O I also seem to remember hearing that nearly the entire second half of the game wasn't voiced at all?

thedestinedblade
March 30th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Nah, it's the only the epilogue arc that isn't voiced at all. Then again, after listening to Shirley's voice for so long some silence wasn't so bad. :\

I guess Namco just doesn't go all out in their localizations. Still not as bad as completely removing the skits in Destiny and Eternia though.

ZeroCracked
April 3rd, 2012, 07:31 PM
If you guys are still letting people join the club, I'm a tales fan as well and I'm interested.

U.Flame
April 7th, 2012, 10:06 PM
Yaaay. I finished Graces! (The main story anyway, I just started the next part)

The ending was beautiful, but it was the only Tales game that didn't make me cry. It lacked tragedy. I loved Asch, so his death made Abyss's story beautifully unforgetable. Then again, I haven't completely beat Graces, maybe tragedy lies ahead. Either way, I've yet to be dissapointed by Graces. I love it!

wardon561
April 8th, 2012, 02:19 PM
I like namco...pacman and dig-dug.....klacks, asteroids and sitch.

Joshawott
April 9th, 2012, 04:53 PM
I'm not sure exactly where to post this, but how do you guys get AI player to cast Mystic Artes? They don't do it very consistently...

U.Flame
April 11th, 2012, 06:48 AM
Depends on which game. Most should allow you to switch characters during battle. In that case, I switch to the ready person to activate it manually. That's why in Abyss, their stragety is to not use Overlimit, so I can activate it at the right time manually. Also, in Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2, (and possibly more) you can buy a Mystic Arte command so they use it automatically as soon as they are able to.

Cherrim
April 11th, 2012, 07:45 PM
Pretty sure in the strategy menu for most games, you can set when they'll use their overlimits. Usually you have a choice between "never" and "as soon as it's charged", I think. Possibly "low HP" as well.

It's usually best to just switch and do it manually, though. In most games, you can just press pause and then press the start button and it'll cycle through the party so you can control who you need. (This is also helpful for when your healers decide they want to be warriors.)

Sora
April 11th, 2012, 07:59 PM
AI rarely do the Mystic Artes on their own. Throughout my playing of Abyss I don't think I've ever really seen one launch their Mystic Arte. Maybe once or twice? Could be my fault because I may or may not have set it so their overlimit had to be activated manually but I find it easier to do so. That way I can hold off on using a Mystic Arte for when I really need/want to use it rather than 'BAM oh a random mystic arte from an AI'.

ZeroCracked
April 15th, 2012, 08:15 PM
For the most part though, only enemy AI such as bosses activate their MA's. Like some others said, it depends on the game. But for the four I've played, Symphonia, DotNW, Innocence, and Eternia (The latter two of which I'm not entirely sure even have MAs), no allied AI character activated a Mystic on their own.

Sora
April 15th, 2012, 08:53 PM
I... don't remember if Genis ever uses Indignation Judgement on his own. Maybe if he just happens to use Indignation while in Overlimit but it's usually not the case because he's generally already in a spell and by the time he starts another spell he's out of it. Colette on the other hand she had totally done Holy Judgement on her own once and it was hilarious and totally unexpected. Lloyd he can't do it. Ever.

Symphonia 2 is another thing entirely (and probably what you were talking about) but with the way you did Mystic Artes in that game I don't think it's possible.

U.Flame
April 16th, 2012, 03:30 AM
Speaking of Symphonia 2 and Colette, how do you activate her Mystic Arte? I've activated everyone's but hers. Is there a special requirement?

ZeroCracked
April 16th, 2012, 09:29 AM
I... don't remember if Genis ever uses Indignation Judgement on his own. Maybe if he just happens to use Indignation while in Overlimit but it's usually not the case because he's generally already in a spell and by the time he starts another spell he's out of it. Colette on the other hand she had totally done Holy Judgement on her own once and it was hilarious and totally unexpected. Lloyd he can't do it. Ever.

Symphonia 2 is another thing entirely (and probably what you were talking about) but with the way you did Mystic Artes in that game I don't think it's possible.

I think it's because of the button combo involved with Lloyd's MA in Symphonia. There's just no way he'd do that particular set of movements on his own right.

Yeah, I think so. But DotNW was a rushed game so I could see how they just put in that form of execution without developing it.

But do Eternia and Innocence have Mystic Artes in any form? I know Innocence R does, but I don't know about the DS version.

Speaking of Symphonia 2 and Colette, how do you activate her Mystic Arte? I've activated everyone's but hers. Is there a special requirement?

Make sure you have her "Special" skill on. Then just use a High Spell (I think Judgement worked for me) and just hold the B button when you activate it.

But the MAs aren't all that useful in that game. I'd say in order of effectiveness Zelos' Shining Bind, Lloyd's Divine Justice, Emil's Devil's Hellfire, and Marta's Radiant Roar are the best. Zelos just because it's such a high damaging skill, Lloyd's because it's a harder hit in a smaller area, Emil's because it's easily used in a pinch, and Marta's for it's healing properties.

But Raine's MA Sacred Shine... Man that was utterly useless. It seriously does NOTHING. If I can't see a damage or healing counter it didn't do anything.

U.Flame
April 16th, 2012, 11:52 AM
I used the same thing as I did to activate everyone else's MA. "Special" was on, I used Judgment (and other moves) and held B (and all buttons possible) but still nothing!

Sora
April 16th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Yeah. That's precisely why the AI can't use Lloyd's Mystic Arte in the first game.

Really? Raine's actually does some damage iirc or at least does some healing properties. I remember using it quite a few times back when I was playing DOTNW. Maybe I might have been using it because it looked pretty, but I'm pretty sure it was doing something. My favorite from Symphonia 2 though was Genis'.

It shouuuuld be Judgement. If it's not Judgement then try Holy Song? In Symphonia you had to use Holy Song for the chance to activate Holy Judgement so it might work the same way in the sequel as well or something. I would have to turn on DOTNW to check myself but I can't do so right now because my sister is watching TV.

Cherrim
April 16th, 2012, 03:15 PM
I think Raine's might revive people who've been KO'd. :s I swear I remember using it from time to time and it being useful. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else though?

ZeroCracked
April 16th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Yeah. That's precisely why the AI can't use Lloyd's Mystic Arte in the first game.

Really? Raine's actually does some damage iirc or at least does some healing properties. I remember using it quite a few times back when I was playing DOTNW. Maybe I might have been using it because it looked pretty, but I'm pretty sure it was doing something. My favorite from Symphonia 2 though was Genis'.

It shouuuuld be Judgement. If it's not Judgement then try Holy Song? In Symphonia you had to use Holy Song for the chance to activate Holy Judgement so it might work the same way in the sequel as well or something. I would have to turn on DOTNW to check myself but I can't do so right now because my sister is watching TV.

Try watching the TP. Maybe it's that.

I think Raine's might revive people who've been KO'd. :s I swear I remember using it from time to time and it being useful. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else though?

Hm. Well next time I do a colosseum match I'll test that theory.

U.Flame
April 18th, 2012, 12:11 PM
i feel bad. I've beaten Abyss over 7 times already and I JUST found out something new about Jade. "It's just like my eyes. he's carving a fonic glyph in Mohs to gather fonons." So...Jade's eyes are special huh. That's why they're red?

Miss Doronjo
April 19th, 2012, 05:02 PM
http://www.talesunion.com/news/tales-of-xillia-trademark-also-shows-up-in-us--2048.html

^ There's a possibility that Tales of Xilla might be planned to be released in the U.S and the U.K next month, thanks to a seen trademark that showed up in Europe and the U.S.

Again, there's no guarantee, but, it's... a possibility. :3

Cherrim
April 19th, 2012, 07:33 PM
That's exciting about Xillia. I've heard both good and bad things about it but I do really wanna play it..... because it looks really pretty. 8D
i feel bad. I've beaten Abyss over 7 times already and I JUST found out something new about Jade. "It's just like my eyes. he's carving a fonic glyph in Mohs to gather fonons." So...Jade's eyes are special huh. That's why they're red?
Yeah, I can't remember what it's called but he did something to them when he was a kid so he can gather fonons faster for artes. It's also why he wears the glasses--they help regulate it so his eyes don't go out of control. He doesn't need them for vision because his vision's better than perfect. :P I think there are sidequests that mention it a few times.

ソラ
April 19th, 2012, 11:26 PM
http://www.talesunion.com/news/tales-of-xillia-trademark-also-shows-up-in-us--2048.html

^ There's a possibility that Tales of Xilla might be planned to be released in the U.S and the U.K next month, thanks to a seen trademark that showed up in Europe and the U.S.

Again, there's no guarantee, but, it's... a possibility. :3


Yeah, But all Tales games has Trade marks, doesnt mean it will happen. But you never know im not too excited Xillia isnt particular my favorite, its an "eh, alright" game imo.

U.Flame
April 20th, 2012, 06:57 AM
Aww. Mohs's voice is de-warped in the 3DS! It's just wrong for him to still sound human after he mutates. I wonder why they changed it? It was fitting for him to sound like a retarded demon.

Well, I beat Abyss again. (And cried again.)
Now I HAVE to learn more about the Big Bang and the Cantamination effect. I need to know what happened!

Miss Doronjo
May 5th, 2012, 02:58 PM
jsyk:

Machi Asobi Report:
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6184163.html
http://tokkurin.net/archives/50767173.html#more

-There will be an announcement at Tales of Festival
-There will be new 3DS, PSP, and Vita titles according to Yoshizumi.
-Yoshizumi said he wanted to remake TOS on the PSP, but it apparently exceeded the PSP's limitations too much, even moreso than TOA. (Which is probably why TOA's on the 3DS.)
-The Symphonia OVA has a different ending than the game; it's release date might be postponed.
-They were debating whether or not to make a sequel to Ratatosk(?!), it seems like they decided against it. (I am not kidding about this.)
-ufotable will be in charge of animation for the next game
-Konishi (the voice of Lloyd) asks Yoshizumi if they would consider remaking Symphonia for the WiiU, to which Yoshizumi responds with a "Huh?".
-Yoshizumi says they are considering the WiiU for future Tales.

Joshawott
May 5th, 2012, 04:27 PM
So, what's everybody's favourite Mystic Arte? Mine would have to be Jade Curtiss'. It's so fitting for him, and the dialogue prior to the attack... is so epic.

Sora
May 5th, 2012, 10:04 PM
jsyk:

Machi Asobi Report:
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6184163.html
http://tokkurin.net/archives/50767173.html#more

-There will be an announcement at Tales of Festival
-There will be new 3DS, PSP, and Vita titles according to Yoshizumi.
-Yoshizumi said he wanted to remake TOS on the PSP, but it apparently exceeded the PSP's limitations too much, even moreso than TOA. (Which is probably why TOA's on the 3DS.)
-The Symphonia OVA has a different ending than the game; it's release date might be postponed.
-They were debating whether or not to make a sequel to Ratatosk(?!), it seems like they decided against it. (I am not kidding about this.)
-ufotable will be in charge of animation for the next game
-Konishi (the voice of Lloyd) asks Yoshizumi if they would consider remaking Symphonia for the WiiU, to which Yoshizumi responds with a "Huh?".
-Yoshizumi says they are considering the WiiU for future Tales.
Here's a slightly different translation than the translation above:

-They hint at some announcements of new games, particularly at the days of the Tales of Festival
-Yoshizumi asks if they have a PSP, 3DS, and/or Vita and which one of them would they like to see new games announced for. The audience was overwhemingly in support of the PSP and there was little for the 3DS.
-They wanted to remake ToS for the PSP, but the game is bigger and more difficult to port than ToA is/was.
-He's currently in an argument with the scenario writer about not making a sequel to Ratatosk.
-The conclusion of the ToS OVA is different from the game's, so he wonders if they should post pone its release.
-He would like for Ufotable to also handle the next Tales game.
-Considering the Wii U.I don't want a sequel for Ratatosk I want a prequel gimme gimme gimme. ;w;

Also I still want remake of Symphonia. I personally wouldn't mind for it on the WiiU because console > portable for Tales of Games (IMO because I play them with my sister) or any other console system really since well... seems like Symphonia is too much for portables. ♥

I'm also interested in the OVA ending. Either something to take care of the take that the OVA is Tabatha-less or something more dramatic. Hmm.

/yes only cares about Symphonia. What's new.

... In other news there's a Promotional Poster for the ToS OVA under a bridge. I'm too lazy to get the link and everything but it amuses me greatly.

voltianqueen
May 6th, 2012, 02:34 AM
^Yes prequel yes. I liked Ratatosk, but it wasn't really my favorite... I feel like it would've been better off longer and as its own game instead of part of Symphonia.

...

Symphonia is also my favorite. Weird because a few days ago I was telling my sister how much fun I'd be having with a remake of it xD

Miss Doronjo
May 6th, 2012, 04:06 AM
Mmm, if they make a sequel or prequel, I'm just wondering about their voice actors~

U.Flame
May 6th, 2012, 05:26 AM
Is the WiiU the only remake option for Symphonia? Can't the 3DS handle it? How about the PS3?

Sora
May 6th, 2012, 08:39 AM
Mnn... if they do a prequel the voice actors wouldn't be big of a problem? Compared to nine characters+ characters for Symphonia there is only four that would have had voices before (Noishe doesn't count he just whines. You can do much with whining ahaha) and Martel barely said anything so you might as well say three? Sequel on the other hand... I don't want to think about it.

Symphonia's tenth anniversary is next year. I'm pretty sure they'll think of something for Symphonia by then. It could be why they're thinking on postponing the last episode? I'm not sure. If ToS would have been more difficult to port than Abyss though that could be one of the reasons and will be my reason. screw 'better battle system = the whole game is better' reason. why they ported Abyss. If Symphonia really is that big then I PS3 would probably be the best current option.

Symphonia is my favorite as well... but I think that's obvious aha..

Cherrim
May 6th, 2012, 08:42 AM
Pretty sure the Vita is a lot more powerful than the 3DS, so if the Vita can't do it, it would have to be on a full-blown console.

I don't know what the specs are for the Wii U, so while I'd like to say that they could possbily put a remake on Wii U -and- one of the other consoles, it's possible they'd have to dull down the game to make it fit for the Wii. (Unless the Wii U will be powerful enough to actually be a next-gen console instead of fitting it better in this gen?) I don't think PS3 would get it because unless they've already started the remake by now, it would end up coming out at the very end of the PS3's life before the next one, I think, and that's not good for sales. I don't think I'd want a remake of Symphonia, though. I think it still holds up well-enough on its own. The only thing I'd want to fix, honestly, is the loading times in the PS2 version and then it would be perfect. :(

Oh man I would love a prequel to ToS though, since I imagine they'd almost have to set it up for Mithos's original plot. Kratos! Martel! <3

Miss Doronjo
May 6th, 2012, 11:15 AM
I was only concerned with the voices because I've heard that people really, really didn't like the voices in tos2, since their 'nostalgic kick' from the original members of the symphonian crew were shot from that. Given how wildly popular ToS was the first time around, I don't see them having a hard time paying extra to get Menville back for a ToSR, given how popular it's basically guaranteed to be.

And I know it seems weird to some, but I feel Lloyd's voice is a big deal. It's such an iconic voice; very distinct and recognizable. I can deal with them replacing him in RM and ToS:KoR given they're just spinoffs, but if they ever return to the original Symphonia ... Menville best be in it.

As for the remake, it depends on the specifics of Nintendo's involvement, I suppose. But, if Symphonia on Sony would be an impossibility for North America, ... I'm pretty certain NB would do a SymphoniaR on a Nintendo console. Symphonia is their one worldwide hit; they're not dum enough to ignore the mass, worldwide potential a remake would have.

Which is why I think/hope a SymphoniaR would be WiiU/PS3, simultaneous. PS3 in Japan to assay any enhanced porting fears, and WiiU worldwide to facilitate re-using of translating/possible rights issues with Nintendo.

Cherrim
May 6th, 2012, 11:44 AM
I thought the issue with getting some of the VAs back was to do with unions, not how much they had to pay. :( I know Menville still does incidental work in games (I saw his name scroll by under "additional voices" in Final Fantasy XIII-2 last night) so I can't imagine the issue with hiring him is just money.

I'm not sure Symphonia sold well enough overseas for them to bother even thinking about the people in NA/EU when they make it, though. Whether it's because they don't give them the publicity they need or just the tastes of English consumers, the Tales series does not sell well here. It does okay, but not well. If they'll get more people to buy it in Japan by putting it on a certain console rather than trying to pick something that everyone worldwide would like, they're gonna go with the Japan option.

Tales fans in English are pretty hardcore with their love for the series, but I think it's just a drop in the ocean to the Japanese dev teams. It's nice if they can get their work out there and localized in other places but it's not really on the forefront of any of their minds, I assume.

Miss Doronjo
May 6th, 2012, 12:00 PM
I thought Symphonia did pretty well here, actually... I think it was around 120,000 copies sold in the 2nd week I think?

Well, I mean, I understand the point about the Tales series having a small audience... in fact, that's part of the reason why the PS3 version of Vesperia never made it here I think.

Cherrim
May 6th, 2012, 12:15 PM
Did a quick google search and aside from the overall sales worldwide and the stat you mentioned, I can't find anything on its sales. Not much on the sequel either. :( All I can find are data on the Japanese sales which don't help much. I know ToS did well here (sold about half of what it did in Japan, as far as I can guess, which is good considering its sheer lack of advertisement), but the other Tales games pretty much bombed. So I really don't see them considering the NA/EU fan base in their development cycles unless they know it'll benefit the Japanese fans too. Though, I guess if there were one part of the franchise they would do it on, it would be ToS.

Sora
May 6th, 2012, 11:54 PM
Pretty sure the Vita is a lot more powerful than the 3DS, so if the Vita can't do it, it would have to be on a full-blown console.

I don't know what the specs are for the Wii U, so while I'd like to say that they could possbily put a remake on Wii U -and- one of the other consoles, it's possible they'd have to dull down the game to make it fit for the Wii. (Unless the Wii U will be powerful enough to actually be a next-gen console instead of fitting it better in this gen?) I don't think PS3 would get it because unless they've already started the remake by now, it would end up coming out at the very end of the PS3's life before the next one, I think, and that's not good for sales. I don't think I'd want a remake of Symphonia, though. I think it still holds up well-enough on its own. The only thing I'd want to fix, honestly, is the loading times in the PS2 version and then it would be perfect. :(

Oh man I would love a prequel to ToS though, since I imagine they'd almost have to set it up for Mithos's original plot. Kratos! Martel! <3

If Symphonia ever gets remade (as in remade and not just ported to another console/system) UFOtable or get out. I think they've done a marvelous job overall with the OVA and so I wouldn't mind them being the ones who make the graphics for a remade!Symphonia. I wouldn't be surprised if they remade Symphonia and upgraded the battle system but if they do I would love for them to keep the EX Gems and not use... whatever they have for Tales of Games (AD Skills and what not). But honestly I wouldn't mind them just fixing the loading issues from the PS2 version and porting it to another console. There's a reason why I continue to play that game after all. And if they can add things into the game with the original graphics in tact then I would be all for that as well.

And pffft. Where's the love for Yuan? I can see some problems that they would have to consider when making the game (depressing ending anyone? as well as a lot of one-on-one battles if they want to stick to canon and Mithos facing the Summon Spirits by himself) but regardless I would love to know their history. So much.

/too lazy to comment on everything else hurr.

Cherrim
May 7th, 2012, 08:50 AM
I don't think they'd drastically alter the battle system or anything, even for a remake over a port. I'm pretty sure they didn't really change anything but graphics and maybe add in some extra areas/functions in all the other Tales remakes but I've also never played any of them so I dunno. XD;

That's the problem! There isn't much love for Yuan! :( He needs to be featured in another game to fix this.

smile!
May 17th, 2012, 06:56 PM
I restarted Eternia :P Been training like crazy, and now I'm getting Sylph. ^.^ I swear, it's so hard to get a Thrust level up so I've been abusing Megasonic Thrust like crazy. >.>

Anyone else here plays Eternia/Destiny II?

Cherrim
May 17th, 2012, 09:37 PM
I borrowed parallelzero's copy of the PSP version last year. I liked it. The characters were fun but I wasn't a fan of the battle system so for the last 1/5th of the game I did all my grinding on Auto. *ashamed* I never did get the hang of the summon spirits in that game.

I loved Meredy though. n_n

Sora
May 18th, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sadly, I haven't. I watched the majority of the OVA (which isn't even near like the game) but other than that I haven't been able to play it. I don't really like playing on ROMs aaand I don't have a PSP either.

At this rate I'm forever going to have only played Symphonia (1&2), Abyss, and part of Phantasia and Legendia.

Joshawott
May 18th, 2012, 02:56 PM
As of right now I only have a 3DS and a Wii, so the only game in the series that really interests me is Tales of the Abyss (I need to play Symphonia before it's sequel). For a while now I've been considering buying a PlayStation 3 to play a few of its games, but mostly to play many of the great PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 games I missed growing up (Metal Gear Solid, Shadow of the Colossus, etc.) Thing is, I was always quite skeptical as I don't have easy access to money, merely because I promised myself I'll never work in the fast food industry. Then I seen the English trailer for Graces f, which led me to get a simple paper route. Hundreds of amazing games, here I come!

smile!
May 18th, 2012, 06:08 PM
I borrowed parallelzero's copy of the PSP version last year. I liked it. The characters were fun but I wasn't a fan of the battle system so for the last 1/5th of the game I did all my grinding on Auto. *ashamed* I never did get the hang of the summon spirits in that game.

I loved Meredy though. n_n

Ahaha. Aren't all the battle systems in the Tales series the same? idrk though, cause I only played Eternia and Phantasia.. I did play Destiny but never finished it, since I didn't quite like the skill system.

Summon spirits in Eternia can't be summoned directly.. Yeah, I guess that's its difference with the other series?

Meredy 8D Hweel!

Sadly, I haven't. I watched the majority of the OVA (which isn't even near like the game) but other than that I haven't been able to play it. I don't really like playing on ROMs aaand I don't have a PSP either.

At this rate I'm forever going to have only played Symphonia (1&2), Abyss, and part of Phantasia and Legendia.

Yeah. I *tried* watching the Eternia OVA but I don't think I even finished one episode. XD I did finish watching the Phantasia OVA though.

Cherrim
May 21st, 2012, 10:48 AM
Ahaha. Aren't all the battle systems in the Tales series the same? idrk though, cause I only played Eternia and Phantasia.. I did play Destiny but never finished it, since I didn't quite like the skill system.

Summon spirits in Eternia can't be summoned directly.. Yeah, I guess that's its difference with the other series?

Meredy 8D Hweel!
I don't like the 2D systems. I started with Symphonia which, while you still run in a 2D line, has you in a 3D battle space. Same with the ones after it (except Legendia), which also include free run so you can use the 3D space effectively. I find the 2D systems really constraining and I'm bad at them since I never got used to them first. :P So I just sucked at Eternia's.
Yeah. I *tried* watching the Eternia OVA but I don't think I even finished one episode. XD I did finish watching the Phantasia OVA though.
I think I'm the opposite, although I stopped Phantasia's because I hadn't played the game. I only sat through Eternia's because I liked the characters well enough. <_< It wasn't very good as a standalone anime at all.

smile!
May 21st, 2012, 02:46 PM
I don't like the 2D systems. I started with Symphonia which, while you still run in a 2D line, has you in a 3D battle space. Same with the ones after it (except Legendia), which also include free run so you can use the 3D space effectively. I find the 2D systems really constraining and I'm bad at them since I never got used to them first. :P So I just sucked at Eternia's.

I think I'm the opposite, although I stopped Phantasia's because I hadn't played the game. I only sat through Eternia's because I liked the characters well enough. <_< It wasn't very good as a standalone anime at all.

Ah, I see. No wonder. I've only played Eternia and Phantasia (well, and Destiny, but never finished it) and all of them use a 2D plane so I find nothing wrong with that XD

Haha, really? I finished Phantasia because it was only 4 episodes. Eternia had what, 20+ I think.

Aaaand for the game itself, I actually abused Spiral Attack and Neo Tempest Swarm so much that now my Thrust levels are going up faster than Slash. o.o

Cherrim
May 21st, 2012, 02:49 PM
Mm, no, I think Eternia just had an OVA and was like... 5 episodes long? It was an extra story that takes place near the end of the game but is never referenced in the game itself. Maybe you're thinking of Tales of the Abyss's anime? If I'm not wrong, it's the only one with more than 20 episodes. :P

smile!
May 21st, 2012, 03:42 PM
Mm, no, I think Eternia just had an OVA and was like... 5 episodes long? It was an extra story that takes place near the end of the game but is never referenced in the game itself. Maybe you're thinking of Tales of the Abyss's anime? If I'm not wrong, it's the only one with more than 20 episodes. :P

Waitwhatnowhenwho?

Ahem. I mean, I saw the whole episode list one. It was definitely more than 5. XD

Wiki says it's got 13 episodes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Eternia:_The_Animation)

Okay maybe not 20+ but still :P
Are the OVAs and anime two different things? XD

Sora
May 21st, 2012, 03:50 PM
Yeah. Eternia has thirteen. I got to about... episode ten I think but I never finished it.

Anyways, have a commercial guys!

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Cherrim
May 21st, 2012, 03:52 PM
Omg you're right. :( But... but nothing happened in it so I assumed it was only ~5, haha. Whoops!

I like the art from the new Tales but I sure wish they'd give us more teasers than just that.

Sora
May 23rd, 2012, 07:52 AM
Point taken. It was just shenanigans happening on an island if I remember correctly.

Same. Well, they'll be telling us the title during the Tales of Festival beginning on June (June 3rd or something?) so I guess we'll have to wait until then. I won't be surprised if something leaks before that day though. I'm also hoping that they say something about the next Symphonia OVA episode as well during the Tales of Festival if not sooner.

thedestinedblade
May 23rd, 2012, 10:01 AM
lol, not much of a teaser. They do work fast though, don't they? Xillia was barely released in September and already a new game is being developed. Kinda figured they do an enhance version before working on something new. Oh well, let's just hope it's on a console I currently own.

Cherrim
May 23rd, 2012, 10:12 AM
They release a new flagship title once every year or two though, don't they? This one may not even be released this year if they're only starting to tease it now. Xillia was just released last year, yeah, but it was first teasted in summer 2010. So we'll probably see the next one in 2013.

I'm a little torn on the idea of an enhanced version of Xillia. I mean, I don't care either way if it gets one but the only time they've really done re-releases so close to the original release is when they're porting the game. There's no way Xillia will be released on 360 and that's really the only valid port it could get in this generation. But despite that, it was also unfinished when it was released--they said that a lot of things (including characters!) ended up on the cutting room floor so they wouldn't have to delay the game. Everyone I know who's played it seems to like it well enough but most of them agree that it doesn't seem as polished as it could be. So I do sort of expect them to release a polished version. Maybe they'll wait until the Wii U has been released and port it to that with all the additions? *shrug*

The reveal of the next Tales game on the website is set to coincide with Tales Festival this year, so hopefully any trailer or information they show for it will be publicly available too instead of taking place behind closed doors-only like previous years. :3

U.Flame
May 26th, 2012, 04:30 AM
I think they mentioned an important quote about the new game. Something along the lines of "Are you willing to destroy the world to save one girl's life?" Personally, I think this sounds a lot like Symphonia.

Cherrim
May 26th, 2012, 09:48 AM
And Vesperia and Abyss if they'd chosen to focus more on Tear and...

XD; It's not a very original line, especially in a JRPG.

Apparently the X in "TALES OF NEXT" on the web page has been flashing the same purple as the Xillia logo. So I think we're getting Xillia 2. :s

Sora
May 26th, 2012, 09:53 AM
Is that what they're going to do? Hnnn... Well I'm still hoping that they do something for Symphonia next year then. But.. eh. I haven't played Xillia so I can't have much of an opinion of whether I can be excited for a Xillia 2 or not. :x

So I'll be excited about this instead! 8D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/ToSUWPack2CE.jpg

I reaaaallly wished I had the money to buy this episode. ;;

Netto Azure
May 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jeez. The wait is killing meh. But sadly it's going to be Kratos Route isn't it? ;______;

That's what the Bonus Disk said...But isn't Colette Route Canon? DDDDDD:

Zelos. ;_______________;

Cherrim
May 26th, 2012, 03:32 PM
Honestly, I'm very behind on the ToS anime (I never finished the Tethe'alla arc) so I don't even know what details confirm the route they're taking but... has it been stated anywhere that they're explicitly following one route or another? Unlike the game where it would have been ridiculous to have 9 party members at all time (with two being virtually identical), the anime won't really be confined by game mechanics. They could pretty much just follow the Colette route and have Kratos rejoin the main group anyway, couldn't they? :s

They can't really mess too much with canon unless they want to make ToS2 take place on an entirely different timeline since Zelos is still a main character in it.

Netto Azure
May 26th, 2012, 03:36 PM
That's what I was thinking. Because Zelos is still in TOTA2...

But look at this:

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You guys played the actual game so not much of a spoiler but pretty much just showing what route they're probably using.

Edit: LOL It's a parody of Detective Conan. XD

Sora
May 26th, 2012, 05:12 PM
I don't see why they would parody the route they are going to use. But if they kill off Zelos I would at least like to see some backstory and Seles. But until we see the episode and see what happens I would still like to think that it's up in the air. 'Sides, they could always do what the manga did. Also, if they were going to kill off the character I would imagine that the boxart would be of that character and his sister not Mithos and Martel. Buuuut that's just my opinion. Zelos is much more popular in Japan after all (took number one spot in the popularity poll).

As for the ending they've already said that the ending will be different than the games. Though I'm not sure if they mean slightly as if to make up for Tabatha not being in the OVA or something more drastic.

But, I want my Kharlan Heroes, and that boxart and camera pic of Mithos and Martel (too lazy to go get it BUT THERE WAS ONE) is making it pretty certain that there will be more Kharlan Hero in the OVA which will make this girl one happy fangirl.

As for the Omake I still find it hilarious when Yuan says 'There is only one truth' when I'm used to Mithos' VA (who voices Conan from Detective Conan) saying it all the time haha.

U.Flame
May 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Apparently the X in "TALES OF NEXT" on the web page has been flashing the same purple as the Xillia logo. So I think we're getting Xillia 2. :s

No, they already dismissed that possibility. They said it will also take place in a more modern setting.