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King Gumball
November 19th, 2010, 04:18 PM
So there are some user bars for being a Mod/Admin, and being a PC supporter, and Event Organizer but how about userbars that change with post count? Kind of like what Serebii does. For users like me who dont have anything under their usernames, it looks so empty and blank, and having the post count userbars would encourage users to become more active and post around a bit more.

Ninja Caterpie
November 19th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Um yeah not really. It makes people with more posts look superior to those without (i have a better userbar!) when they've got nothing above them at all. Might not sound like a lot, but people are really immature.

The 100 Mega Shock
November 19th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Sounds more like it just encourages rampant non-content posting and internet popularity contests to me.

Aurafire
November 19th, 2010, 04:31 PM
I think I remember something like this being suggested already...Or maybe that was for the user titles. *shrug*

Anyway, a postcount userbar seems redundant when you can just look at someone's postcount in a thread on in their profile. And besides, postcount doesn't matter at all. You shouldn't need a userbar saying how many posts you have to feel encouraged to post around.

Alli
November 19th, 2010, 04:42 PM
A staff member/supporter has done something to earn their userbar. Just posting isn't really earning much of anything and therefore doesn't deserve its own bar.

Forever
November 19th, 2010, 04:45 PM
We could always get "member" userbars but that'd kinda have no point. But yeah, don't really like postcount userbars. For example, someone who is staff, a supporter and an event organiser with a lot of posts is gunna have... a really long userbar :(

King Gumball
November 19th, 2010, 07:25 PM
I dont mean that it says how many posts are on it. It just changes with post count. Or even just creating a selection of userbars would be fine.

Spinor
November 19th, 2010, 07:33 PM
No no no >__> Unlike the greedy noobs people at Serebii, postcount is a trivial matter here. Userbars are for the people who did something worthwhile, which is truly donating, being selected as staff, or hosting events during get-togethers. That's it. If you want rewards for having high post counts then the only thing you need to symbolize that is that number in your profile and blog permissions (5000+)

Besides, that'd make Admin-Supporters-Event Holders-Ridiculous Postcounters have 4 stacked userbars o_0' If Forever made it to 40,000, became an admin, and hosted 3 events she'd be freaking uber in this area XD

Stormbringer
November 19th, 2010, 07:36 PM
I dont mean that it says how many posts are on it. It just changes with post count. Or even just creating a selection of userbars would be fine.

In the context of what you mean, your user title (If left unchanged) basically does everything the userbar would do anyways.

countryemo
November 19th, 2010, 07:46 PM
So like
10 post = Boulder Badge member
25 post = Cascade Badge member?
so on so on..

Really rather pointless really, plus the real userbars
Staff/supporter/event show whos in "charge" of stuff, or yeah. if everyone had them itll be kinda messy. And well im done.

Eliminator Jr.
November 19th, 2010, 07:57 PM
I'm not a big fan of the idea. Userbars are there to show some sort of achievement. Post count is shown literally like 15 centimetres or so away from where userbars are, so all this is encouraging is some members making less meaningful posts to up their post count, and besides having a high number of posts speaks for itself that you're a regular in the community. You don't need a userbar to back that up.

Aquacorde
November 19th, 2010, 08:01 PM
I just feel like this would be way too much effort for such a little thing. :(
What increments of postcounts would we do, anyway? Every hundred? Thousand? Ten thousand? Combinations? How many would we have to make to match, say, Forever's postcount? Which is still increasing pretty fast since she's so active.
Just looking at it from a practical point of view... I don't thing it would be the best idea. :/

King Gumball
November 19th, 2010, 11:03 PM
No no no >__> Unlike the greedy noobs people at Serebii, postcount is a trivial matter here. Userbars are for the people who did something worthwhile, which is truly donating, being selected as staff, or hosting events during get-togethers. That's it. If you want rewards for having high post counts then the only thing you need to symbolize that is that number in your profile and blog permissions (5000+)

Besides, that'd make Admin-Supporters-Event Holders-Ridiculous Postcounters have 4 stacked userbars o_0' If Forever made it to 40,000, became an admin, and hosted 3 events she'd be freaking uber in this area XD


I see your point, but Forever wouldn't have one as she would have her own Moderater/PCtier bar. Same goes for Doners and event organisers. I just thought it would be worthwhile getting everyone's opinions on this :)

Pablo49
November 20th, 2010, 06:10 AM
I was on a gaming forum once, and it had a ranking system. Everytime you hit a set amount of posts you became a different popular video game character. For the a lot of people it became all about getting the next rank. I almost wish you couldn't even see post count at all on posts. The number of posts made means nothing. You can have a million posts and still be noobish or have five posts and be just as valuable as every other member. It isn't an accurate way to determine anything.

Gerri Shin
November 20th, 2010, 08:49 AM
So like
10 post = Boulder Badge member
25 post = Cascade Badge member?
so on so on..

Really rather pointless really, plus the real userbars
Staff/supporter/event show whos in "charge" of stuff, or yeah. if everyone had them itll be kinda messy. And well im done.

I had implemented an Idea like this on another forum I had helped Administrate, however instead of userbars cluttering up the postbits, I tied it into the Award system (the equivalent of the Emblems here) that way you were automatically awarded a new badge based upon the number of posts, but in order to see it you would have to visit the person's profile.

Platinum Lucario
November 20th, 2010, 10:46 AM
So there are some user bars for being a Mod/Admin, and being a PC supporter, and Event Organizer but how about userbars that change with post count? Kind of like what Serebii does. For users like me who dont have anything under their usernames, it looks so empty and blank, and having the post count userbars would encourage users to become more active and post around a bit more.

Userbars for members?! Are you seriously kidding me? xD

Not to be mean or anything, but should we really follow the exact same things as what Serebii's Pokémon Place forums do? We honestly... shouldn't be following the exact same things as what SPPf is doing, like having a userbar that changes every time you get to a certain number of posts in your post count. To be honest, this isn't really a good idea, because this could totally ruin the charm of what PC is like today. I would more prefer if members really didn't have userbars... because that really gives you that basic feel and that you're just a regular member. ;)

Having a userbar... really wouldn't make you feel like you're a normal member anymore... it would totally make you think "this userbar would show how much I've got in my post count". And honestly... this would make PC more of an identical twin forum to SPPf, this is why we have to be different from other forums. And really... does post counts really have to matter? This is why here at PC... we don't want to worry about our post count or anything like that.

So yeah, it's just something that we do not want to have. :x

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
November 20th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Yeah, let's not do this. It's only going to trigger more SPAM, clutter everything up, and remind me of that place called Serebii that I hope never to return to. And trying t implement a code to handle it is likely going to put even more strain on the servers.

Mew~
November 20th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Honestly like everyone else has said, this isn't needed and is just kinda a thing people can show off, without earning it.

There is the usertitle thing, im pretty sure it changes the more posts you have. Most people haven't noticed it because more poeple like custom usertitles...

Gardenia101
November 20th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Well, you get a blog after you get so many posts (5,000, I think), so I think that is probably enough regarding post count.

Noah Ridgewood
November 21st, 2010, 02:41 PM
So like
10 post = Boulder Badge member
25 post = Cascade Badge member?
so on so on..

Really rather pointless really, plus the real userbars
Staff/supporter/event show whos in "charge" of stuff, or yeah. if everyone had them itll be kinda messy. And well im done.
I actually wouldn't mind that, to be honest. When I read the original idea, I thought of a badge like staff and supporters have, but using actual badges from the series would really tie in and make PokéCommunity more Poké-like, in my opinion. But, I do have to agree that some users here would abuse that since they'd probably work up to want a specific badge enough to spam to get it. If members were a little more controlling of themselves and didn't spam to get to a specific post count, then I would agree to this completely. Then there's the fact that we have a DCC full of spam posts...

I don't see anything wrong with members caring about their post count, though. I do think it's a pretty stupid thing to worry about since there's so much more important things in the world that you should be spending your worry on, but that's their prerogative and to some people, post count does matter. So that argument ("it'll make it look like we actually care about our post count when we don't!!!"), to me at least, doesn't hold up very well.

The 100 Mega Shock
November 21st, 2010, 03:53 PM
only if i get to make an alt called Gary Oak who has ten badges.

Hiidoran
November 21st, 2010, 04:03 PM
As Nick said, I wouldn't be against little badges somewhere on the post bit or in your profile somewhere. In fact, that sounds like a pretty cute idea. Basing it solely on post count seems a little unfair though. I mean, what about the people who spend most of their time over in Pokémon Trivia? Do they not deserve these badges just as much as any other active member of PC? D:

As for the userbars for anyone other than Supporters/Staff/Event Organizers (Thought we were to disable those once the Get-Together's were over...? XD), I can't say I agree with that. :x It's a neat little system Sppf has, but I really don't think it would transition well over here.

Stellar
November 21st, 2010, 05:11 PM
I don't like the idea. :/ It wouldn't be worth the trouble. People should be rewarded based on the quality of their posts, not the quantity of them. Besides, I'm pretty sure there are a handful of emblems that serve this purpose, and unlike userbars they're not an ever-present mark of superiority. It's bad enough that post counts are left visible, but in that case they do more good than harm.

インフェルノの津波
November 21st, 2010, 06:07 PM
Hmm...unlike some of you, I am going to think about it...

Ah, got it.

It's a bad idea.

Do you know why Serebii lags? It's all the crap they have on it. Those userbars hurt the site more than you think, unlike PC has only Moderator and Supporter bars. Our site lags less, and has very little problems.

But adding this would make everything worse. People would post less-constructive posts, just to brag how many they've got.

All in all, I think it should be an emblem. Maybe Posting Machine or something if you have 5,000+?

Noah Ridgewood
November 21st, 2010, 07:00 PM
Hmm...unlike some of you, I am going to think about it...

Ah, got it.

It's a bad idea.

Do you know why Serebii lags? It's all the crap they have on it. Those userbars hurt the site more than you think, unlike PC has only Moderator and Supporter bars. Our site lags less, and has very little problems.
You clearly don't know what effects lagging as much as you think you do, especially since you're saying they have a lot of images on it. Last I checked, we're a lot more image-oriented here at PC than Serebii is. And if you actually read the thread, you'd know that many other members also said no to this for similar reasons than us. Just because you have a different opinion on something doesn't mean that someone doesn't think it through. I suggest you think things through more in your posts before you assume someone who agrees with an idea you find is stupid didn't think something through. That's disrespectful, rude, and ignorant. I should hope I don't see anymore posts like this of yours among the community and this is just a "I had a bad day" kind of thing...

Gardenia101
November 21st, 2010, 07:04 PM
Hmm...unlike some of you, I am going to think about it...

Ah, got it.

It's a bad idea.

Do you know why Serebii lags? It's all the crap they have on it. Those userbars hurt the site more than you think, unlike PC has only Moderator and Supporter bars. Our site lags less, and has very little problems.

But adding this would make everything worse. People would post less-constructive posts, just to brag how many they've got.

All in all, I think it should be an emblem. Maybe Posting Machine or something if you have 5,000+?
Yes, because we don't have 50 billion database errors already.

And posting machine? Sounds way too much like something an adbot or something would be called. We don't want people to be "Posting Machines". No, no, NO.

Forever
November 21st, 2010, 07:19 PM
I do like the idea of a 5000+ postcount emblem, though that never actually went ahead due to reasons either idk or idr. If the idea ~was~ allowed or something one of us could easily make an emblem for it and get it uploaded, so idk the stance on that.

Cassino
November 21st, 2010, 07:34 PM
Actually, one's default usertitle changes depending on postcount (a feature that has been around here longer than the bars). I can't find a list but the highest one is Poké-Perfecto. You can get the default usertitle to appear by trying to enter nothing in the text field.
(My usertitle contains a zero-width space (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200b/index.htm), if you're wondering.)

The way this site is run, if anything I think an emblem per thousand posts would be most appropriate.

インフェルノの津波
November 21st, 2010, 10:46 PM
You clearly don't know what effects lagging as much as you think you do, especially since you're saying they have a lot of images on it. Last I checked, we're a lot more image-oriented here at PC than Serebii is. And if you actually read the thread, you'd know that many other members also said no to this for similar reasons than us. Just because you have a different opinion on something doesn't mean that someone doesn't think it through. I suggest you think things through more in your posts before you assume someone who agrees with an idea you find is stupid didn't think something through. That's disrespectful, rude, and ignorant. I should hope I don't see anymore posts like this of yours among the community and this is just a "I had a bad day" kind of thing...

Patchisou, I go on PC because I'm bored, and have some fun. Yes, I know some of my posts or ideas don't make sense, but don't chastise me like I'm some ignorant kid. I'm still learning things about life, and I have a learning disorder. I respect your input, but you're coming off a bit too harsh for my tastes. And no, I don't have bad days.

But I still think this is a bad idea. Like I said, less-constructive posts, therefore Moderators would have to delete even more posts. Not to mention it'll just get plain annoying to some users and Grammar Nazis.

Melody
November 21st, 2010, 11:59 PM
Grammar nazis can kiss my rump, I think this could work with one exception. Rather than including some clunky userbar, why not just make it an emblem you can ask for in the discussion thread for emblems? Besides, an emblem is a lot less lucrative to the barefoot n00bs. If you make such an accomplishment award that noticeable then the stupid n00bs will spam for it

King Gumball
November 22nd, 2010, 12:53 AM
I actually wouldn't mind that, to be honest. When I read the original idea, I thought of a badge like staff and supporters have, but using actual badges from the series would really tie in and make PokéCommunity more Poké-like, in my opinion. But, I do have to agree that some users here would abuse that since they'd probably work up to want a specific badge enough to spam to get it. If members were a little more controlling of themselves and didn't spam to get to a specific post count, then I would agree to this completely. Then there's the fact that we have a DCC full of spam posts...

I don't see anything wrong with members caring about their post count, though. I do think it's a pretty stupid thing to worry about since there's so much more important things in the world that you should be spending your worry on, but that's their prerogative and to some people, post count does matter. So that argument ("it'll make it look like we actually care about our post count when we don't!!!"), to me at least, doesn't hold up very well.


The idea of badges sounds cool. As I do see peoples point of it cause some spam and more work for the Admins and Mods, as the bars would be visible to look at on each post, and it may turn competitive. Where as if it hidden in a users profile then people would not be 'as' bothered to check and look, causing less competitiveness . But overall I dont really see any major problems that would be caused from my idea.

The idea of badge emblems every 500 posts would be really cool though, and that is one idea I would really love to come into play. They would be hard earnt ( People think that by posting, you are not earning anything, as read earlier in this thread), as for some users this is very time comsuming and would be available to the really active members that contribute a lot of their time to PC.

But I still think this is a bad idea. Like I said, less-constructive posts, therefore Moderators would have to delete even more posts. Not to mention it'll just get plain annoying to some users and Grammar Nazis.
Some extra hands would easily fix that.

Ivysaur
November 22nd, 2010, 01:34 AM
We once thought about making postcount badges and we even made a few but... they somehow were scrapped during the development of the emblem system. I'd be okay with reviving that idea, but I'm against this one.

As some people said, giving userbars to pretty much every member would clutter even more the postbits while being redundant (the usertitle already works like this if you don't customize it and the postcount is right next to it! and more up-to-date since people with 1245 posts will keep the 1000 userbar) and really useless to be honest (since the only worthy number is 5000 posts for the blog permissions).

I'd rather give emblems for that, as I said. An userbar for 5000 wouldn't be so horrible since it's already set as a goal and most people who get that number are already staff/supporters either way, but... not my cup of tea.

Team Fail
November 22nd, 2010, 02:25 AM
Actually, one's default usertitle changes depending on postcount (a feature that has been around here longer than the bars). I can't find a list but the highest one is Poké-Perfecto. You can get the default usertitle to appear by trying to enter nothing in the text field.
(My usertitle contains a zero-width space (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200b/index.htm), if you're wondering.)

The way this site is run, if anything I think an emblem per thousand posts would be most appropriate.
Yeah... No. If that were to happen, people like Forever would have 20 of them.

Germaniac
November 22nd, 2010, 04:50 AM
It will make people spamming to get more posts

ANARCHit3cht
November 22nd, 2010, 09:19 AM
I am all for something that will congratulate a member for posting a certain amount of times. I see absolutely nothing wrong with an emblem or postbit that shows this. Just so long as it isn't too clunky.

I am slightly worried about spam, however. It might pick up with a few more members, but there are some that already make spammy posts to reach a certain number.

So, in short, I am for this idea, or something akin to it.

King Gumball
November 22nd, 2010, 09:22 PM
Yeah... No. If that were to happen, people like Forever would have 20 of them.

Umm so? Per thousand posts sounds heaps cool. Remember there are 40 badges, so Forever would have only been half way there.

Or you could make a 'badge case' where all the badge emblems go, so that you wont have a large list down the page.

Hermione Granger
November 23rd, 2010, 06:33 AM
Umm so? Per thousand posts sounds heaps cool. Remember there are 40 badges, so Forever would have only been half way there.

Or you could make a 'badge case' where all the badge emblems go, so that you wont have a large list down the page.
We already have an emblem showcase. And post counts really don't matter anyway. Maybe an emblem for 5000 posts? But per thousand posts? No. But that's just my opinion. n__n