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vaporeon7
November 21st, 2010, 10:15 PM
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Bored of playing easily through you game over and over again?
Well why not make it harder and more challenging.
In a nutshell you have to complete the game without any of the Pokemon on your team having any STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus or moves that are the same type as your Pokemon) moves. So no 1.5x extra power.
This challenge makes you think about Pokemon like Butterfree in Gen I when it had no STAB moves.

No STAB Challenge Rules

Put all posts that have anything to do with the fifth generations plot in spoilers.
No hacking Pokemon. (Missingno glitch included)
No trading unless it is for evolution that requires it. Egg trading is okay or just hatched Pokemon for Pokemon with Egg Moves.
Pokemon must not have any damaging moves that are the same type as itself.
If you catch a Pokemon with a STAB move delete it as soon as possible and do not use it in battle.
If you can't trade your Pokemon for evolution for whatever reason you may cheat for that Pokemon to evolve. (This is the only valid reason for cheating)
You may use an emulator, just don't cheat.
Your challenge is finished once you beat the Pokemon League in all games except Pokemon G/S/C and HG/SS where you have to beat Red.
You can always sign up and have fun.
No using legendary Pokemon as they have an unfair advantage.

Also Pokemon that change types like Castform are the type of there normal form in this case Normal and Hidden Power any Pokemon can use regardless of type. Struggle can be used on Normal Types as it's uncontrollable and it's more like an un-typed move anyway.
If you want an additional rule to make things harder then, no using any moves that are the same type as the Pokemon, damaging or not (Optional).
Challengers:
R/B/Y:

G/S/C:

R/S/E/FR/LG:

D/P/Pt/HG/SS:

B/W:


Also mention what game your participating and don't forget to update your progress. All champions will be put on the champions list.
Champions:
Vaporeon7 (Sapphire), Hoppip (Blue), Porygon Z (Fire Red)

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vaporeon7
November 23rd, 2010, 12:06 AM
What I've done:
I started my challenge on Pokemon Sapphire. I went through the start of the game and caught a Zigzagoon. I then kept going through the game meeting Wally and going through Petalburg Woods. I then continued on past Rustburo City and I caught a Whismur. I then trained up a bit and challenged Roxanne. I beat her... just. I then saved Peeko and then got my Pokenav. I am currently on Dewford Island.
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The Team:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/28/Spr_5b_263.png
Speedy (Zigzagoon) Lv15.
Moves: Tackle, Sand-Attack, Tail Whip, Headbutt. (I'll change the attacks ASAP).
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b9/Spr_5b_293.png
Scraps (Whismur) Lv15.
Moves: Pound, Uproar, Astonish, Howl. (I'll change these to).

.Kaiser
November 23rd, 2010, 08:13 AM
What do we do if we have a normal type and we lose PP and have to use struggle?

vaporeon7
November 23rd, 2010, 11:35 PM
What I've Done:
At Dewford Town I delivered Steven's Letter. Whismur later evolved and I then beat Brawly at the gym. I then went to Slateport City and Zigzagoon evolved. I then continued north and trained a bit and beat May and Wally. I then beat the Wattson. I am in Mauville City and about to head further north.
The Team:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/92/264.png
Speedy (Linoone) Lv30.
Moves: Theif, Sand-Attack, Mud Sport, Shock Wave.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a3/294.png
Scraps (Loudred) Lv33.
Moves: Supersonic, Flamethrower, Astonish, Howl.

vaporeon7
November 24th, 2010, 01:26 PM
What do we do if we have a normal type and we lose PP and have to use struggle?

You just resort to using Struggle as you can't do anything about it and because it functions more like a typeless move anyway. Also .Kaiser were you considering taking the challenge?

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vaporeon7
November 24th, 2010, 11:08 PM
What I've Done:
I headed north past the Fiery Path and continued on to Fallabour Town. I then kept going to Meteor Falls where I saw Team Aqua. I then went back down to Mt. Chimney and defeated Team Aqua. I then went down Jagged Pass to Lavaridge TOwn and defeated Flannery. I then went to the desert and caught a Trapinch. I then went back to Petalburg City and beat Norman. Loudred later evolved. I am in Mauville City about to go east.
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The Team:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/92/264.png
Speedy (Linoone) Lv36.
Moves: Surf, Dig, Hidden Power (Ghost), Thunderbolt.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d3/295.png
Scraps (Exploud) Lv40.
Moves: Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Astonish, Hidden Power (Rock).
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Sandy (Trapinch) Lv26.
Moves: Bite, Hidden Power (Grass), Faint Attack, Rock Tomb

vaporeon7
November 29th, 2010, 02:18 AM
What I've Done: I went east and then North to the Weather Institute. I defeated Team Aqua and received a Castform and beat May. Trapinch then evolved. I then continued on and caught an Absol. I then defeated Winona. I kept on going to Mt. Pyre and defeated Team Aqua there. I then went to Lilycove City where I defeated May for the last time. I then defeated Team Aqua. I then went to Mosdeep City and then caught a Staryu. I then beat Tate and Liza. Staryu then evolved and I am currently in Mosdeep City.
The Team: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/92/264.png
Speedy (Linoone) Lv40.
Moves: Surf, Dig, Hidden Power (Ghost), Thunderbolt.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d3/295.png
Scraps (Exploud) Lv41.
Moves: Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Astonish, Hidden Power (Rock).
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0d/329.png
Sandy (Vibrava) Lv35.
Moves: Crunch, Giga Drain, Fly, Rock Tomb.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/94/351.png
Forecast (Castform) Lv36.
Moves: Ice Beam, Solarbeam, Thunder, Flamethrower.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/30/359.png
Slasher (Absol) Lv35.
Moves: Quick Attack, Hidden Power (Poison), Aerial Ace, Swords Dance.
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Staruss (Starmie) Lv29.
Moves: Rapid Spin, Recover, Camouflage, Swift.

vaporeon7
December 7th, 2010, 01:33 AM
What I've Done: I went underwater to Team Aqua's Lair where I defeated them for the last time. I then went to Sootopolis City where I caught Kyorge and got my last badge. I then went through Victory Road and then trained my Pokemon and Vibrava evolved. I then challenged the Pokemon League and won. I've now finished my No STAB Challenge.
My Team: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/92/264.png
Speedy (Linoone) Lv50.
Moves: Surf, Dig, Hidden Power (Ghost), Thunderbolt.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d3/295.png
Scraps (Exploud) Lv48.
Moves: Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Earthquake, Hidden Power (Rock).
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/16/330.png
Sandy (Flygon) Lv46.
Moves: Crunch, Giga Drain, Fly, Rock Tomb.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/94/351.png
Forecast (Castform) Lv49.
Moves: Ice Beam, Solarbeam, Thunder, Flamethrower.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/30/359.png
Slasher (Absol) Lv46.
Moves: Iron Tail, Shadow Ball, Aerial Ace, Swords Dance.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d2/121.png
Staruss (Starmie) Lv47.
Moves: Blizzard, Recover, Thunderbolt, Confuse Ray.

Hoppip
December 7th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Can we use Hidden Power if it is the same as the Pokemon's type that uses it.

vaporeon7
December 8th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Yes, that and Struggle are the only STAB moves allowed.

Hoppip
December 9th, 2010, 03:24 AM
Ok, I'll start a challenge on Blue.

First Update: I started the game with Charmander and did the begining things.
I then caught a Caterpie in Viridian Forest and evolved it into Metapod and then into Butterfree.
I then beat my Rival.
After advancing through Viridian Forest I reached Pewter City and beat Brock.
Charmander then evolved.
I went through Mt. Moon and reached Cerulean City.
I beat my Rival and helped Bill. I then beat Misty and headed south and caught a Meowth.
I am now in Vermillion City!
The Team:
Meowth Lv19, Charmeleon Lv24 and Butterfree Lv25.

Porygon Z
December 9th, 2010, 07:47 AM
Hmm... Well, I can give it a try!

Username: Porygon Z
Game: Fire Red

Hoppip
December 9th, 2010, 04:58 PM
I went on the SS. Anne and defeated everyone there.
I beat Lt. Surge.
I then went to and through Dark Cave to Lavender Town.
I got to Celedon City and got a Dratini from the Game Corner.
I beat the Fighting Dojo.
I also defeated Team Rocket.
Charmeleon and Meowth evolved.
I then beat Erika. I am currently in Celedon City.
The Team:
Charizard Lv36, Butterfree Lv31, Persian Lv29, Dratini Lv25.

Hoppip
December 11th, 2010, 07:38 AM
I went to Lavender Town and beat Team Rocket there.
Dratini evolved.
Caught a Snorlax.
Went and got Surf and then beat Koga.
Surfed to Cinnabar Island and caught a Muk.
Went back to Saffron City and saved the Silph. Co.
Beat Sabrina.
Went to Cinnabar Island and found the Key.
Beat Blaine.
I am currently on Cinnabar Island.
The Team:
Charizard Lv43, Persian Lv41, Butterfree Lv42, Snorlax Lv43, Dragonair Lv43, Muk Lv41.

Hoppip
December 12th, 2010, 01:41 AM
I went to Viridian City.
I beat Giovanni.
I trained my Pokemon.
I beat my rival.
I went to and through Victory Road.
I trained my Pokemon some more.
Dragonair evolved.
I challenged the Pokemon League.
I won!
The Team:
Charizard: Lv51, Slash, Fissure, Submission, Dragon Rage.
Persian: Lv50, Bubblebeam, Thunderbolt, Toxic, Rest.
Snorlax: Lv51, Amnesia, Ice Beam, Earthquake, Surf.
Dragonite: Lv56, Hyper Beam, Blizzard, Thunder Wave, Surf.
Butterfree: Lv50, Stun Spore, Sleep Powder, Psychic, Mega Drain.
Muk: Lv50, Thunder, Fire Blast, Body Slam, Explosion.
That concludes my challenge.

Porygon Z
December 12th, 2010, 06:59 AM
First update.

Now in Silph Co.

Name: Haru.
Badges: 5.
Pokèdex: 34 (getting for now to 40, Amulet Coin).
Time: 8 hours and something.

Charizard Lv. 42 - Mega Punch, Rock Slide, Metal Claw, Dig.
Vaporeon Lv. 43 - Toxic, Ice Beam, Quick Attack, Haze.
Gengar Lv. 43 - Hypnosis, Dream Eater, Thunderbolt, Strength.
Machamp Lv. 43 - Flamethrower, Mega Kick, Rock Tomb, Rest.

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EDIT: Now in First Island, training.

Name: Haru.
Badges: 8.
Pokèdex: 49 (getting to 60 for Aftergame).
Time: 13: 45.

Charizard Lv. 49 - Mega Punch, Rock Slide, Steel Wing, Earthquake.
Vaporeon Lv. 51 - Toxic, Ice Beam, Quick Attack, Haze.
Gengar Lv. 50 - Hypnosis, Dream Eater, Thunderbolt, Strength.
Machamp Lv. 49 - Flamethrower, Mega Kick, Rock Tomb, Rest.
Electabuzz Lv. 46 - Psychic, Brick Break, Iron Tail, Double Team.
Snorlax Lv. 47 - Shadow Ball, Surf, Sunny Day, Solarbeam.

No screens. Maybe the Hall of Fame one.

vaporeon7
December 13th, 2010, 08:55 PM
Just so everyone is clear Normal types DO receive STAB from normal type moves.

Porygon Z
December 14th, 2010, 05:32 AM
Just so everyone is clear Normal types DO receive STAB from normal type moves.

And following from that, Normal types are the best choice for this challenge :D

Update time.


Name: Haru.
Badges: 8.
Pokèdex: 62.
Time: 16: 18.

Training a bit for the strongest E4.

Charizard Lv. 62 - Mega Punch, Rock Slide, Steel Wing, Earthquake.
Vaporeon Lv. 62 - Toxic, Ice Beam, Dig, Haze.
Gengar Lv. 63 - Hypnosis, Dream Eater, Thunderbolt, Facade.
Machamp Lv. 63 - Flamethrower, Mega Kick, Rock Tomb, Body Slam.
Electabuzz Lv. 61 - Psychic, Brick Break, Iron Tail, Protect.
Snorlax Lv. 61 - Shadow Ball, Surf, Rain Dance, Thunder.

EDIT: Challenge complete.

Charizard Lv. 66 - Mega Punch, Rock Slide, Steel Wing, Earthquake.
Vaporeon Lv. 65 - Toxic, Ice Beam, Dig, Haze.
Gengar Lv. 66 - Hypnosis, Dream Eater, Thunderbolt, Facade.
Machamp Lv. 65 - Flamethrower, Mega Kick, Rock Tomb, Body Slam.
Electabuzz Lv. 66 - Psychic, Brick Break, Iron Tail, Protect.
Snorlax Lv. 66 - Shadow Ball, Surf, Rain Dance, Thunder.

vaporeon7
December 17th, 2010, 07:03 PM
Congratulations on finishing your challenge.