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Livewire
January 19th, 2011, 03:19 PM
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The Dark Knight Rises



As some of you know, the third and final film in Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy is titled The Dark Knight Rises, due to be released July 20th, 2012, and it will detail the super hero's continued fight against crime, which has been complicated further by the events of The Dark Knight. Recently, the director Nolan announced two recent casting additions, Tom Hardy (Inception) as the muscle bound brute Bane, and Anne Hathaway (The Devil Wears Prada) as the infamous Catwoman. The tentative cast is as follows:



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More information here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/roles-of-anne-hathaway-and-tom-hardy-revealed-in-dark-knight-rises/

Thoughts?

Kenshin5
January 19th, 2011, 04:44 PM
Anne Hathaway as Cat Woman interesting... I guess they aren't going with any Tim Burton roots like having Penguin included )=. I am sad this is a trilogy since it left out villains list Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Poison Ivy. If they make Batman Beyond after this I I would be happy though.

Livewire
January 19th, 2011, 05:38 PM
Anne Hathaway as Cat Woman interesting... I guess they aren't going with any Tim Burton roots like having Penguin included )=. I am sad this is a trilogy since it left out villains list Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Poison Ivy. If they make Batman Beyond after this I I would be happy though.

Well, it's reputed to being a trilogy, Nolan hasn'r made any official notive about it. Remember Pirates of the Caribbean was only supposed to be a triology too, and they made a fourth installment, so you never know. I'd love more, personally.

I agree. I really hope at some point we see Poison Ivy, Freeze or the Penguin. :/

Now making Batman Beyond would be very interesting. The unknowing son of Bruce Wayne? I'd have to see a perspective list of actors first to see who would be a good match.

Cooker
January 19th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Oh I think Anne as Catway is purrfect [not funny 9_9]! She's young and farily seductive, and I had heard like last summer that Rachel Weisz was supposed to have the part [0_0] so knowing that Anne got it is a relief.

TRIFORCE89
January 19th, 2011, 10:15 PM
I haven't seen much of Nolan's work (I keep meaning to see Memento. I hear it's a masterpiece), but I love reading what he says during interviews and such. I have much respect for the man. He has an impeccable understanding of the art of film-making. He and his whole team that he surrounds himself with. And beautiful cinematography (yay for this film being 100% IMAX!!)

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are two of my favourite films. Back when the title was first announced, I was disappointed. And I still am. It's goofy. The Empire Strikes Back is a terrific film. Much like The Dark Knight it was darker than it's predecessor and had a cliff-hanger ended and left audiences wanting more. But they didn't called Return of the Jedi "The Empire Strikes Back Some More".

I was really hoping that Harley Quinn would be a character. A transition from the Joker (don't show him, for obvious reasons, but maybe have unused audio from the last film to create interview sessions between him and Dr. Quinzel behind closed doors at Arkham).

Catwoman, I think is a boring character. However, Nolan sure has balls to use the character after that Halle Berry disaster-of-a-film. I know it won't be anything like that interpretation (or Burton's, which is my main complaint. Burton already used the character. I know it's separate continuities, but I only wanted the Joker to carry over - he's a constant), but I don't think the bad taste has left audiences mouths yet (for the three of you who actually saw that movie XD).

Hathaway can play dark though. So, I am intrigued. Hardy as Bane, is also interesting. I'm confident they're going to play up Bane's intellect over his brawn (and lose the mask please). And... Catwoman isn't really a villain. Just an anti-hero, sorta. And she'll probably be Bruce's new love interest.

Personally, I think a combination of Bane and Hugo Strange as the villains could work well.


And Live_Wire466, it is the end of a trilogy, yes. Nolan is done with the series after and walking away. Similarly, much of the cast probably won't return without Nolan. WB could probably continue this continuity if they wanted, but it would be different sans-Nolan. Nolan and co. have said they writing it as an ending to their trilogy.

Guy
January 20th, 2011, 03:01 PM
I was surprised when I read Anne Hathaway would play the role as Catwoman. Not saying I don't like her, because I do, but she never popped into my head as the type to play Catwoman's role. Still, I think she can pull it off pretty well; I'm intrigued myself to see her play the part. Truth be told though, seeing as Catwoman's appearance was never heard of until recently I'm feeling it won't be as big of a part like Hardy will take on in the movie.

Livewire
January 20th, 2011, 04:16 PM
I haven't seen much of Nolan's work (I keep meaning to see Memento. I hear it's a masterpiece), but I love reading what he says during interviews and such. I have much respect for the man. He has an impeccable understanding of the art of film-making. He and his whole team that he surrounds himself with. And beautiful cinematography (yay for this film being 100% IMAX!!)

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are two of my favourite films. Back when the title was first announced, I was disappointed. And I still am. It's goofy. The Empire Strikes Back is a terrific film. Much like The Dark Knight it was darker than it's predecessor and had a cliff-hanger ended and left audiences wanting more. But they didn't called Return of the Jedi "The Empire Strikes Back Some More".

I was really hoping that Harley Quinn would be a character. A transition from the Joker (don't show him, for obvious reasons, but maybe have unused audio from the last film to create interview sessions between him and Dr. Quinzel behind closed doors at Arkham).

Catwoman, I think is a boring character. However, Nolan sure has balls to use the character after that Halle Berry disaster-of-a-film. I know it won't be anything like that interpretation (or Burton's, which is my main complaint. Burton already used the character. I know it's separate continuities, but I only wanted the Joker to carry over - he's a constant), but I don't think the bad taste has left audiences mouths yet (for the three of you who actually saw that movie XD).

Hathaway can play dark though. So, I am intrigued. Hardy as Bane, is also interesting. I'm confident they're going to play up Bane's intellect over his brawn (and lose the mask please). And... Catwoman isn't really a villain. Just an anti-hero, sorta. And she'll probably be Bruce's new love interest.

Personally, I think a combination of Bane and Hugo Strange as the villains could work well.


And Live_Wire466, it is the end of a trilogy, yes. Nolan is done with the series after and walking away. Similarly, much of the cast probably won't return without Nolan. WB could probably continue this continuity if they wanted, but it would be different sans-Nolan. Nolan and co. have said they writing it as an ending to their trilogy.

Memento is amazing, you won't be disappointed. XD

I agree as well. The tilte is pretty goofy, but Nolan know what he's doing. Same thing with the Hathaway cast, I don't see her as Catwoman, but then again, lots of people said Heath Ledger wouldn't be a good Joker either, and we all know how that worked out. I think he'll have everything squared away nicely.

Ahh, that's what I was thinking. Oh well, 3 amazing films will do nicely. :)

JP
January 20th, 2011, 07:35 PM
I very much like the two being casted as those characters. I can't wait to see how the story plays out. Talia Al Ghul is also rumored to be in the film, and boy do I hope Eva Green takes that spot. She'd be perfect for the role!

TRIFORCE89
January 20th, 2011, 08:45 PM
Memento is amazing, you won't be disappointed. XD

I agree as well. The tilte is pretty goofy, but Nolan know what he's doing. Same thing with the Hathaway cast, I don't see her as Catwoman, but then again, lots of people said Heath Ledger wouldn't be a good Joker either, and we all know how that worked out. I think he'll have everything squared away nicely.

Ahh, that's what I was thinking. Oh well, 3 amazing films will do nicely. :)
I'm confident Hathaway will make a great Selina. Nolan seems to have a knack for casting people to portray characters you wouldn't normally think of seeing them in. Like with Robin Williams in uhh... what was it... Insomnia?

duabrown
January 24th, 2011, 07:55 AM
Batman The Dark Knight, and two of my favorite movies. At that time the title is the first announced, I am very disappointed. And I still feel. This is stupid. The Empire Strikes Back is a great movie. The Dark Knight is dark like than its predecessor, there is a cliff hanger ending, the audience something more to say leave. But they did not counter the so-called return to the Imperial Jedi more.

Livewire
January 24th, 2011, 08:57 AM
I'm confident Hathaway will make a great Selina. Nolan seems to have a knack for casting people to portray characters you wouldn't normally think of seeing them in. Like with Robin Williams in uhh... what was it... Insomnia?

That's true too. Now I just wish the movie would get here sooner, summer 2012 is still pretty far off yet.

TRIFORCE89
February 1st, 2011, 06:37 PM
"I read the script 2 weeks ago, and he’s done it. Plain and simple — he’s done it. It’s a phenomenal script. He’s still in the process of cutting it back because it’s a very long script right now, but it’s really phenomenal. And he actually had me go back and wanted me to watch, in IMAX, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight again. When I watched those I had read the script for The Dark Knight Rises and was like, 'dude, it is a perfect trilogy.' I think that was his intent, to work off those two pictures — and they are very different pictures. And it’s funny, we all had different opinions about which picture we like better."
~Nolan's cinematogropher Wally Pfister

I feel very relieved.

Harley Quinn
February 1st, 2011, 08:28 PM
Considering I love Anne Hathaway in any way, shape or form I am excited for this. I wouldn't have pictured her in this role this was announced, but since it was, I can actually see her doing poor Selina Kyle some justice. Too bad Poison Ivy doesn't make an entrance though, because as much as I adore Uma Thurman, that movie...ugh.

This will be a very interesting movie for me.

Gold warehouse
February 5th, 2011, 04:33 AM
Two villains? Do not really want. It didn't work with Spider Man, although I didn't really like that trilogy to begin with anyway. It only worked in The Dark Knight because Two-Face was only introduced for a short role at the end, so I hope there's something similar this time and Nolan makes one of them the 'main' villain. Spider Man tried cramming two main villains into one film, and as a result I thought neither of them developed very much or presented a decent story. Interesting choice of villains as well, I wasn't really expecting either of those two to be chosen.

I really do hope Nolan will somehow make it work; if he manages to pull this off then he's confirmed for god-tier.

TRIFORCE89
February 5th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Catwoman isn't really a villain. She's not evil. Misunderstood and from time to time, she's Batman's love interest.

I think most of the of the time she'll just be Selina. Maybe a tiny bit of night prowler action as a semi-side kick since Nolan doesn't want to introduce Robin.

Maybe she'll just be a prostitute. Who knows

Livewire
February 5th, 2011, 09:20 PM
"I read the script 2 weeks ago, and he’s done it. Plain and simple — he’s done it. It’s a phenomenal script. He’s still in the process of cutting it back because it’s a very long script right now, but it’s really phenomenal. And he actually had me go back and wanted me to watch, in IMAX, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight again. When I watched those I had read the script for The Dark Knight Rises and was like, 'dude, it is a perfect trilogy.' I think that was his intent, to work off those two pictures — and they are very different pictures. And it’s funny, we all had different opinions about which picture we like better."
~Nolan's cinematogropher Wally Pfister

I feel very relieved.

I am very excite. :D

Watching The Dark Knight rn, actually.

Now based on that, and the cast, I think the only real piece left in the puzzle is the music. Both of the previous film's soundtracks are nothing short of genius- Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are amazing composers, and the dark, moody tone of the music really develops the film and makes everything work. If the score delivers as well, then this movie will be absolutely perfect for me.

TRIFORCE89
February 6th, 2011, 08:52 AM
I have nothing to base this claim on really, but the scores of both films come off to me as ZImmer's sound, but Howard's composition.

Zimmer can compose great stuff (see the score to The Lion King), but lately he and the rest of his Remote Control Productions / Media Ventures colleagues just have very cut-and-past derivative scores that could fit any of their movies.

Maybe it's Zimmer (he seems to do a lot of the talk and promo, not Howard) but, I don't know. I'd be surprised (not that I particularly like Howard either, mind you).

Either way, it works well in the film. And TDKR should be fairly similar. Nolan, after all, had originally considered just tracking in BB music into TDK

Calamity
February 6th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Considering the Dark Knight is one of my favourite films ever, I cant wait to see how they end this trilogy. The storyline will be pretty interesting to fit in with the Dark Knights cliffhanger XD Also I'd like to see how the two villians, well if you class catwomen as a villian fuse together in the storyline, cant wait! :D

TRIFORCE89
February 6th, 2011, 03:00 PM
My big question is if there will be any reference to the Joker at all. Obviously the film isn't going to play out as originally conceived. But, I think it has to be addressed at some point to tie up loose ends. Is he held up at Arkham now?

Livewire
February 9th, 2011, 09:46 PM
My big question is if there will be any reference to the Joker at all. Obviously the film isn't going to play out as originally conceived. But, I think it has to be addressed at some point to tie up loose ends. Is he held up at Arkham now?

See, I;m not sure what they'd do. They want to do right by heath, but the story needs the Joker's current whereabouts to be known. Using some computer and audio effects, they could take sound bytes of the Jokers voice to use later in the third film, if he's to be featured at all.

Going by the comic and the history of Batman, technically he should be in Arkham.

GlitchCity
February 12th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Anne Hathaway as Catwoman should be interesting to watch, there were also some rumors around Hollywood saying that Robin might be apart of this movie. If this is true, then I will love Fox forever. Robin rocks.

Kenshin5
February 12th, 2011, 03:12 PM
If this is a trilogy like was mentioned earlier, then I don't think it would be a good idea too introduce Robin during the last movie of the trilogy.

TRIFORCE89
February 12th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Between the development of BB and TDK, Nolan said he's not going to use Robin in his films. Not that he doesn't exist in his continuity, just that he's "in some cradle somewhere" as he put it.

Robin, I think, is doubtful.

Livewire
March 16th, 2011, 08:59 PM
Between the development of BB and TDK, Nolan said he's not going to use Robin in his films. Not that he doesn't exist in his continuity, just that he's "in some cradle somewhere" as he put it.

Robin, I think, is doubtful.

Kinda close to the revival. :/

I kind of had a feeling that we wouldn't see Robin in one of the Christopher Nolan films, which is fine by me. There are so many other possibilities in terms of enemies and friends that haven't been touched on yet.

DancingLeafHiddenPichu
March 16th, 2011, 11:23 PM
I would prefer no Robin in the Nolan continuity; the Batman he's setting up is still young and has just recently figured out the ropes of protecting an entire city. At this point, I don't think he would be a good enough mentor to take on a young ward. If the series was to go on for a while (I hope not, I'd rather them end it on a high note and not drag it out) like a decade or so, sure, I guess I could see that happening, but right now it's not what I feel the series needs.

Riku
March 17th, 2011, 09:25 AM
I'm surprised no one has made mention of Joseph Gordon-Levitt having been in talks to play some unnamed role in this film. I've been searching for awhile, but... can't seem to find any updates as to whether this was finalized or not.

As for the villains, I really am both pleased and somewhat disappointed. Having the feline-like femme fatale Selina Kyle in the movie was a very smart choice I think. After the death of Rachel, Bruce transitioned more into the role of Batman, I think. With her being in the film, I see Bruce finally, truly becoming Batman. In the first film, it was all new. Crazy young man becomes hero. The second, he deals with the repercussions of his choices in the first film and is faced with that issue of "Who am I?" as well as questioning whether or not he is capable of taking on the responsibilities be rashly forced upon himself. I've a feeling Kyle will be good for him, considering the history between the two characters in the series, and will be very influential in him taking what I feel are his final steps to truly embrace his mask.

Bane... Bane I feel is a very interesting choice simply because he, like Catwoman, is one of those characters that has shifted back and forth from villain to hero and back again so may times that the character resides in that gray area of morality that seems to be the theme of the Batman franchise right now. Considering it is Tom Hardy, I've a feeling that finally we will be seeing Bane's more innocent and intellectual sides. (Okay, I know he's not innocent, buuut... he isn't this mindless evil brute people seem to assosciate him with entirely. =/)

The flaw though that I see is that there is no TRULY villainous characters here. I don't know... Nolan has a knack for pulling this stuff off well, but.. I'd say a more villainous character is needed. Probably someone who sets Bane off on his rampancy or something. As someone already stated, I think that Hugo Strange would be absolutely perfect here. His knowledge as a Doctor, and his history of making genetically modified monsters out of people seems like something that would go well here. Plus, given Batman's current situation, it's not entirely unbelievable given his character to be attempting to aid Commissioner Gordon and the GPD in the capture of Batman while simultaneously influencing the criminal underworld. It could also put an interesting twist on the sense of right and wrong as well in that Bruce Wayne could see him as a good person and the others as villains, and have that point of view be shifted. It's not unlike Nolan to mess with a person's perceptions like that, so.... it's not completely impossible. Especially given the revelation of Levitt possibly being in the film and Gary Oldman's hinting of a possible 3rd villain that's been around for a loooong time in the Batman universe, it's not implausible.

Robin is not needed, in my personal opinion. This tale is about Bruce's rise to being a hero. Robin came in muuuuch later. it doesn't sit well with me at all.

Regardless, Nolan has given us two amazing Batman films so far and I don't doubt that the final in his trilogy will be the crowning jewel.

Mr Cat Dog
March 17th, 2011, 10:10 AM
I'm surprised no one has made mention of Joseph Gordon-Levitt having been in talks to play some unnamed role in this film. I've been searching for awhile, but... can't seem to find any updates as to whether this was finalized or not. I thought I was the only one who was wondering about Mr. Gordon-Levitt's place in this discussion. His role, as well as that of Marion Cotillard confirmed by Le Monde, seem to be up in the air - understandable considering Nolan himself hasn't commented upon the matter. The rumours that I've heard are that Ms. Cotillard is to play Talia al Ghul in some sort of 'finalization' of the plot started in Batman Begins, which sounds interesting to say the least. I'm not familiar in the slightly with the comics/graphic novels of which Batman originated, but it sounds on the surface that it's a good idea that Nolan is going to tie up some loose ends. It's unfortunate that with Heath Ledger's untimely demise, that plot will always go slightly unfulfilled due to Nolan's refusal to CGI him into TDKR a la Nancy Marchand in Season 3 of The Sopranos. Probably for the best, really.

TRIFORCE89
March 17th, 2011, 12:42 PM
I want Joker in some fashion. Just have a shot of him from the knees down (with a stand-in of course) sitting on his bed in Arkham. Use some unreleased audio from The Dark Knight. And I'm sure they could have something to tie up his plotline. Maybe even set up Harley.

I want Harley in this movie.

But, probably not going to happen. :(

I hope the Talia al Ghul rumour is false. The beauty of The Dark Knight is that it stood on its own (although, I think it fares much better if you've seen Begins first). But, to tie it all back to Ra's? Why? Because in Nolan-continuity he caused the economic downtown that then led to the murder of Bruce's parents. The average movie-goer is not going to remember that one line revelation from the first film.

That said though, I can see TDKR going a Knightfall route with aspects of Cataclysm/No Man's Land thrown in - in which case Talia would be encouraging Batman to return to Gotham (makes sense, he's in self-imposed exile). But Talia is just so.... "out there" and boring.

I agree with Stand Alone, I think Hugo Strange will be "the villain". But... really... what is it now then? Batman: Arkham City The Movie?

Riku
March 17th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Doesn't necessarily have to be Strange. Could also be one of the more intellectual characters like Mad Hatter or someone. Although, the ONLY real villain I could see fitting in with the current characters, ESPECIALLY Bane, is Strange.

Marion Cotillard? So a THIRD Inception cast member to probably be in TDKR? That's new news to me. Could she be playing the potential love interest role? Or perhaps it really is Selena who is the interest and Marion as the villain? Regardless, I reeeeally like the casting so far. I trust Nolan to know what he's doing. :3

TRIFORCE89
March 17th, 2011, 01:48 PM
I'd like to see Mad Hatter.

But, Nolan's films work even for non-Batfans. Everyone would just be thinking of Johnny Depp if Hatter were in.

Rainy Day
March 17th, 2011, 02:50 PM
I'm interested, though I'm not particularly impressed with the title. Always been a fan of Nolan's, so I'm hoping he'll keep up his streak of great movies.

Mr Cat Dog
March 17th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Marion Cotillard? So a THIRD Inception cast member to probably be in TDKR? That's new news to me. Could she be playing the potential love interest role? Or perhaps it really is Selena who is the interest and Marion as the villain? Regardless, I reeeeally like the casting so far. I trust Nolan to know what he's doing. :3Again, this is only a rumour, but reputable sites have said that Selina Kyle would be working with Batman in defeating some other enemy.

Although some reputable sights were convinced that Robin Williams and then Joseph Gordon-Levitt were going to be the Riddler! Can't trust everything you read.

fer
March 18th, 2011, 04:30 PM
I'm interested, though I'm not particularly impressed with the title. Always been a fan of Nolan's, so I'm hoping he'll keep up his streak of great movies.Same here, I'm hoping it will be just as good as the original Dark Knight. Christopher Nolan in my eyes always impresses but it seems he never gets much attention, I mean look at Inception what a brilliant masterpiece it was. In fact my eyes were nearly stunned after finishing that film. His past films were also pleasing, from my point of view anyways.

Mr Cat Dog
March 18th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Variety has confirmed Joseph Gordon-Levitt as 'locked' in place for some role in TDKR. The link is http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118034129 but you need to register to read it. It also mentions 'up-and-coming' actress Juno Temple in some unnamed supporting female role as well.

It's certainly all hotting up!

Livewire
March 18th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Variety has confirmed Joseph Gordon-Levitt as 'locked' in place for some role in TDKR. The link is http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118034129 but you need to register to read it. It also mentions 'up-and-coming' actress Juno Temple in some unnamed supporting female role as well.

It's certainly all hotting up!

Oh I'm about to do a backflip. That is awesome news.

Now I reeeaaalllly want to see this movie. It sounds amazing. :D

TRIFORCE89
March 19th, 2011, 04:28 AM
Temple looks like a Harley. Or a the very least a Dr. Quinzel

WriteThemWrong
March 19th, 2011, 12:49 PM
I'm really excite to see bane going against batman. He might not be as cerebral as Joker but bane affects batman's mentality in a whole new way. in the comic books, batman took a similar serum to the one bane takes so that he can become physically strong. but then batman realizes the serum is corrupting him, negatively influencing his detective skills and causing him to become addicted. it's stuff like that, on top of the no doubt awesome action and hand to hand combat sequences i'm looking forward to.

TRIFORCE89
March 19th, 2011, 03:08 PM
I'm really excite to see bane going against batman. He might not be as cerebral as Joker but bane affects batman's mentality in a whole new way. in the comic books, batman took a similar serum to the one bane takes so that he can become physically strong. but then batman realizes the serum is corrupting him, negatively influencing his detective skills and causing him to become addicted. it's stuff like that, on top of the no doubt awesome action and hand to hand combat sequences i'm looking forward to.
I've read Venom. I don't know if I like that idea in the Nolanverse. Too many villains and evil/addicted superhero... I fear Spider-Man 3ness

WriteThemWrong
March 19th, 2011, 03:34 PM
I've read Venom. I don't know if I like that idea in the Nolanverse. Too many villains and evil/addicted superhero... I fear Spider-Man 3ness
it's leaning towards that. every superhero goes through something like that when they're tempted and batman is the darkest so he seems like the one closest to the edge.

Mr Cat Dog
March 19th, 2011, 06:03 PM
Again, another Variety update reveals the nature of Joseph Gordon-Levitt's role; the link, which requires registration, is: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118034129.

Fitting with the continuity implied with the rumours of Marion Cotillard's character, Gordon-Levitt will play Alberto Falcone: 'The Holiday Killer'. Son of Carmine Falcone (played by Tom Wilkinson in Batman Begins), this at least shows there's going to be some sort of linkage between TDKR and BB. Although the Spider-Man 3-ness of all these villains does sort of worry me, as well as the reports that the script is waaaay too long. Still... at least it's something more concrete!

TRIFORCE89
March 19th, 2011, 06:18 PM
A long script doesn't bother me. I can sit through 12 hours of it if it's good. And it's Nolan, so it will be.

But! Alberto's presence doesn't have to indicate a heavy role or the Holiday Killer. The other mafia family member are represented in the other movies, but I don't consider them the lead villains.

I'm tempted to say maybe he's there because of a gang war between Falcone and Maroni now that Batman is out of the picture. Would provide a backdrop. It's what they wanted in TDK. It's why they enlisted the Joker's help. The mob suffered a major blow in the last film and will want to regain turf. But.... pretty sure Sal Maroni is dead and that he doesn't have a son.

So, there goes that theory.

Catwoman, if she ends up being Catwoman and not just Selina, I hope won't be a villain. But an ally.

TRIFORCE89
March 21st, 2011, 01:59 PM
Risking the double post, but oh well.

Correction to what we were talking about earlier. Levitt is in, but he's not playing Falcone - according to Entertainment Weekly.

Mr Cat Dog
March 21st, 2011, 06:18 PM
It's interesting which 'close source to the production' we're to believe: Variety's or EW's. Maybe they're both wrong and some Hollywood Reporter 'close source' is going to break with the exclusive news that he's playing the Riddler! Then the fanboys would just go UP in arms!

TRIFORCE89
March 22nd, 2011, 04:58 AM
I thought Nolan said Riddler won't be in it?

Anyway, why is it assumed these guys are all villains? Can't someone have a small part? Or be on the police force or something?

Mr Cat Dog
March 22nd, 2011, 05:13 AM
I thought Nolan said Riddler won't be in it?Yeah, I was just joking with the above comment. The resulting melee if that story did break in the way I described would probably just lead to the destruction of the Internet or something similar. The OUTRAGE!

Anyway, why is it assumed these guys are all villains? Can't someone have a small part? Or be on the police force or something?The rumours seem to be circling around Selina Kyle/Catwoman not really being a villain, but those ones are unclear at best. The Juno Temple role is being sorta confirmed as simply a 'smart girl on the street helping Batman' type dealy, so the only 'confirmed' villain at this point is Hardy as Bane... (unless he ends up helping Batman as well in some SHOCKING TWIST!)

TRIFORCE89
March 22nd, 2011, 04:37 PM
But Selina will be Catwoman, pretty sure. Hathaway seems to be under that impression at least.

But again, that doesn't have to imply villain. Catwoman was around since the beginning. Maybe in this movie she'll just be called "The Cat" again. Anti-hero, not villain. Kinda Robin Hood like and filling in while Batman's away.

Also... just for fun... how about the angle of Selina being Falcone's daughter?

WriteThemWrong
March 22nd, 2011, 04:57 PM
i wonder if they casted anne hathaway to attract the female audience?

i'm way more interested in catwoman than selina just like how i'm way more interested in batman than bruce wayne.

Mr Cat Dog
March 22nd, 2011, 05:12 PM
Anti-hero sounds on the money for Ms. Hathaway, from what I've heard (hey, I might have my own 'close source to the production!) Allows her to fulfil both sides of the Catwoman persona. She could just be some sort of 're-imagining' of the character to allow her to fight alongside Batman in some form or another. The Robin Hood analogy is definitely a one to consider! It also lessens the perceived over-villainous traits all the rumours seem to be suggesting thus far.

As for Hathaway's casting: while I don't think more women will come flocking to TDKR for the chance to see Princess Mia alongside the Dark Knight, it certainly doesn't hurt to have an actress perceived to be very likeable as Hathaway (especially after the Oscar debacle where she came out relatively unscathed in comparison to Franco). However, I imagine men will come out in droves to get a chance to see her in a Catwoman outfit - if indeed it is required as part of the role!

WriteThemWrong
March 22nd, 2011, 05:37 PM
However, I imagine men will come out in droves to get a chance to see her in a Catwoman outfit - if indeed it is required as part of the role!
and how did that turn out in the last catwoman movie? halle berry while sexy in a catwoman outfit, made a lame movie.

i want more than a pretty girl, someone tough and interesting, devious even, like catwoman. that's it: lindsay lohan!

Mr Cat Dog
March 23rd, 2011, 02:34 PM
The failure of Catwoman shouldn't all be placed on Berry's shoulders: it was a rotten film on all levels from direction, writing, cinematography, special effects you name it! But despite the catastrophic word of mouth that preceded it, it did as well as it did ($82 million at the worldwide box office - not enough to recoup its production costs, but nothing to sneeze at either) probably due to male fantasies about Berry in that suit.

I can only assume that with the phenomenally good reputation Nolan's previous two films have achieved in giving extraordinary buzz to TDKR, Hathaway-as-Catwoman won't be perceived as simply Catwoman 2. At least I hope not.

Livewire
March 23rd, 2011, 02:45 PM
I'm liking the idea of Levitt being the younger Falcone, just like the article mentioned. Nolan has a thing for the realistic villains, and Alberto Falcone is a perfect antithesis to Batman and what Gotham's dark knight represents.

Maelstromk
March 24th, 2011, 03:15 AM
I'm very interested in the fact that Nolan (as far as we know atm) have chosen characters that have already seen screen time. Bane needs redemption, I won't deny it, but we already had one VERY good Cat-women. (I have not seen the Hally Berry movie, so I can only draw on speculation that it was terrible). Granted, Nolan has done wonders. I never would of though that Jack Nickelson's adaptation of the Joker could be beat (although I still somewhat adore the Animated Joker voiced by Mark Hamill), but I was proven wrong. It would be kind of interesting to see a character that just hasn't had screen time yet. Although if the Holiday Killer rumors are true, does that mean Calendar Man may also make an apperence?

Riku
March 24th, 2011, 05:22 AM
Apparently Entertainment Weekly is contradicting the Variety article saying Gordon-Levitt is not going to be playing Falcone. So we're back to square one for him: WHO IS HE? T^T

However, there have been rumors and confirmation about some of them that plot details have been leaked to the web. Anyone else hear of these plot leaks?

Livewire
March 25th, 2011, 09:16 PM
Apparently Entertainment Weekly is contradicting the Variety article saying Gordon-Levitt is not going to be playing Falcone. So we're back to square one for him: WHO IS HE? T^T

However, there have been rumors and confirmation about some of them that plot details have been leaked to the web. Anyone else hear of these plot leaks?

Awww man. D:

Hmm, I'd love to hear them. I'm dying to see this movie pretty much.

WriteThemWrong
March 26th, 2011, 04:16 PM
if the plot was leaked i wouldn't want to read it anyways. i'm pretty sure i'm going to go see it when it comes out so why would i want to ruin it for myself?

Mr Cat Dog
March 26th, 2011, 04:57 PM
If a plot had been leaked, the fanboys would have known about it by now and either denounced it as a fake or thrust it into the spotlight for the world to look upon. If anyone can remember, how many plot details were known about The Dark Knight at around this time before production, as I imagine Nolan will probably release a similar amount to that film?

TRIFORCE89
March 28th, 2011, 05:13 AM
Read something interesting from Gary Oldman.

This might not be Nolan's final Batflick. Oldman doesn't necessarily take Nolan at this word anyway. He says he doesn't know if Nolan really means it or if he using it to gain some weight in future negotiations.

Like, "let me film this movie that I want now, and I'll give you Batman later". He did this after Batman Begins and The Dark Knight and we got the Prestige and Inception. With BB and TDK he said he's not sure he'd return. And then he took a little break to film something else. And then he came back.

So, Oldman's not sure. And apparently Bale and the rest of the cast want to know though because they don't want to return without Nolan.

At the very least, we know it's the end of a trilogy according to Nolan and Pfister

DancingLeafHiddenPichu
March 28th, 2011, 09:05 AM
I hope he continues to do the Batman movies. He's given us the most consistently great Batman movies... actually, consistently great comic-based movies in general... in the history of Hollywood. I hope he continues to. But if he's no longer passionate about the projects, he should leave it to one who is.

Mr Cat Dog
March 28th, 2011, 09:53 AM
I don't know if I would even want another set of Batman movies, at least straight away that is. Warner Brothers would ideally want Batman films coming out of their ears if the box-office could be achieved without any form of diminishing returns, but fans may grow tiresome if the current Nolan legacy gets tainted by a new version on the scale of Batman & Robin. Although the current reboot culture going on in the industry - combined with flagging box office receipts that isn't a sequel or anything based on a known quantity - means another Batman film may happen after TDKR, with or without Nolan. Lord knows I don't want this to turn the way of Superman, Spider-Man or poor, poor Hulk (3 TIMES! THREE!).

However, I'm doubtful at this stage as to whether Nolan is being serious. In interviews up until now, he had always been cautious on the possibility of doing a third film at all (didn't he say something like 'name a film trilogy where the third is the best' or something along those lines?). Maybe the plan was always to do two, and WB simply bankrolled Inception to make sure he came back for a third one? As a filmmaker as well, I don't know if he'd want to be tied down to a franchise for as long as he has been - Nolan was hired to work on BB in January 2003, so it'll be nearly 10 years by the time Nolan's through with just these three.

All I'll say is that I'm sceptical at best.

WriteThemWrong
March 28th, 2011, 09:57 AM
I thought Nolan made it clear, these Batman movies would be a trilogy, or at least his role in them. I could go for more Batman movies, but I'm not a fan of Christian Bale so if the do make more I seriously hope they cast someone else, like how they did it in Spider-man.

Still waiting on a Justice League movie...

RokinsimeConspiracy
March 28th, 2011, 10:03 AM
should make joseph gordon levitt new joker, his resemblance to heath ledger is ridiculous

TRIFORCE89
March 28th, 2011, 01:59 PM
In interviews up until now, he had always been cautious on the possibility of doing a third film at all (didn't he say something like 'name a film trilogy where the third is the best' or something along those lines?). Maybe the plan was always to do two, and WB simply bankrolled Inception to make sure he came back for a third one?
I don't think that's true. In the early days of development on The Dark Knight, it was envisioned as a two-parter.

The first film would focus on the Joker, the second film would be the Joker's trial and the birth of Two-Face. In the end, they cut out the trial and merged the two films together.

Nolan, based on the interviews I read, "agreed" to do TDK because he wanted to film the Joker and had wanted to work with Ledger for some time. He liked the interpretation that Ledger pitched to him, and, well... there you go.

So, really Nolan only want to do one film? Just Batman Begins? I don't know. I think it's more... "movie magic" speak and fable. I think Nolan knows he can use the franchise for leverage in negotiations - as he has twice.

Livewire
March 28th, 2011, 06:49 PM
should make joseph gordon levitt new joker, his resemblance to heath ledger is ridiculous

To be honest, I think they could pull it off. But I know they won't because of heath's memory and the Joker's role is mostly done, as he's probably interred in Arkham as of now in the Nolan Batman universe.

WriteThemWrong
March 28th, 2011, 07:03 PM
Heath Ledger was an amazing Joker. He captured the deviousness and the maniacal nature of the Joker, had great line reads, subtle nuances, and when he made that pencil disappear I laughed for days. It would be hard for anyone to top that, he did a really great job, but I hope Joker isn't off limits in future Batman movies because of what happened to Ledger.

Arkham isn't exactly the most secured place, villains constantly get out of there. I think I read a comic once where Ivy and Riddler terrorize Batman and the city from inside Arkham. This talk about Arkham is reminding me of Hugo Strange.

Mr Cat Dog
March 29th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Ugh. The series hasn't even ended yet and Warner Bros. is already picking at its corpse: http://www.avclub.com/articles/new-warner-bros-president-prepping-justice-league,53799/

No, no, no, no, no!

TRIFORCE89
March 29th, 2011, 05:40 PM
Ugh. The series hasn't even ended yet and Warner Bros. is already picking at its corpse: http://www.avclub.com/articles/new-warner-bros-president-prepping-justice-league,53799/

No, no, no, no, no!

Ugh. Why would he be producing? Burton kinda had a reason in that he was ousted, but Nolan's series is done. He also said Bats and Supes won't be on screen together with his involvement

Livewire
March 29th, 2011, 07:21 PM
Ugh. The series hasn't even ended yet and Warner Bros. is already picking at its corpse: http://www.avclub.com/articles/new-warner-bros-president-prepping-justice-league,53799/

No, no, no, no, no!

I certainly hope that doesn't happen. :/ I'd like the idea of a Justice league, but like the article says, I hope they leave the "re-invention" part out of it.

Has anyone heard any further developments on who Gordon Levitt will be playing?

JP
March 29th, 2011, 07:28 PM
I can't possibly understand why Nolan would want to return and produce the thing. I remember reading an article with him saying that after he's done with The Dark Knight Rises, that he would leave the Batman scene. It's clear Warner Bros wants him involved simply because of his name. I just can't see what he can bring to the table in terms of rebooting considering he did a reboot not too long ago, the two would just conflict way too much. I just can't see anything good out of this deal.

I can understand Warner Bros wanting to make a reboot so that the audience gets familiarized with the new face of the caped crusader... but I can't help getting the feeling that Hollywood is going to destroy the Batman franchise... again, even with Nolan's involvement.

Livewire
March 30th, 2011, 07:24 AM
I can't possibly understand why Nolan would want to return and produce the thing. I remember reading an article with him saying that after he's done with The Dark Knight Rises, that he would leave the Batman scene. It's clear Warner Bros wants him involved simply because of his name. I just can't see what he can bring to the table in terms of rebooting considering he did a reboot not too long ago, the two would just conflict way too much. I just can't see anything good out of this deal.

I can understand Warner Bros wanting to make a reboot so that the audience gets familiarized with the new face of the caped crusader... but I can't help getting the feeling that Hollywood is going to destroy the Batman franchise... again, even with Nolan's involvement.

I think it's pretty clear that WB just sees dollar signs in this, judging by bringing on Nolan for some added star power. I really hope it doesn't materialize. There is no need for a reboot, because reboot implies that they're trying to make up for some lackluster movies, and the Nolan Batman films are far from lackluster, they're amazing. :/

Mr Cat Dog
March 30th, 2011, 12:12 PM
I've been reading more reports about this, from the LA Times (http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/03/29/justice-league-the-movie-warner-chief-sets-sights-on-team-up-film-and-reinventing-batman/) and HitFix (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/rumors-persist-about-a-justice-league-in-2013-and-now-a-batman-reboot-as-well), and they present completely differing outlooks on the situation, one positive and one negative.

On the negative side, the LA Times seems convinced that a Justice League film is going to happen, and it's going to have Batman in it after talking to the new WB head honcho. It's this phrase that worries me: Robinov knows that the most bankable part of his superhero empire has been Nolan and his Gotham City films – the studio has yet to deliver a 21st century superhero blockbuster hit without Nolan in the director’s seat. Batman will continue to be a centerpiece property beyond next year’s “The Dark Knight Rises” and Nolan’s departure from the franchise. “We have the third Batman, but then we’ll have to reinvent Batman…Chris Nolan and [producing partner and wife] Emma Thomas will be producing it, so it will be a conversation with them about what the next phase is."

The bolding is my doing, but the second bolded statement is what worries me the most. WB doesn't have to reinvent Batman, unless it wants to seriously piss off its fans in pursuit of the almighty dollar (the same fans who, presumably, would be giving their dollars to WB to fund their pursuit of the almighty dollar... that's a lot of dollars!)

From the HitFix article, there's also the realisation that, without the Writers' Strike of 07 - oh! that feels like yesterday, yet here we are, nearly 4 years later - as well as the Australian government's decision not to implement a 40% tax break, we'd already have had a Justice League movie, with Armie Hammer as Batman. (ZOMG!) So, there's evidence that they've nearly done it before, why wouldn't they do it again?

However, on the positive side, HitFix seems to suggest that WB will have to wait on the success/failure of The Avengers before even greenlighting anything so substantially costly and potentially risky for a comic book franchise. Ergo, if it was to happen, it wouldn't appear until after 2013.

So... there's all this to chew on while we wait for Nolan to TELL US MORE ABOUT TDKR!

Livewire
March 30th, 2011, 01:54 PM
Back to the third film, I'm holding out hope that Heath/The Joker is still referenced or honored in some way. With the kind of audio and computer graphic rendering skills available, they could feasibly include him in a plot-tie up cameo of sorts, similar to the opening scenes of The Dark Knight, where Batman captured Scarecrow in a rather effortless scuffle, and then the main story of the film went on it's way without him.

TRIFORCE89
March 30th, 2011, 04:56 PM
I maintain that unused audio with a shot from his cell in Arkham from the knees down while sitting, would be a nice touch. Plus a Harley cameo

Livewire
April 2nd, 2011, 09:52 AM
I maintain that unused audio with a shot from his cell in Arkham from the knees down while sitting, would be a nice touch. Plus a Harley cameo

I agree. It would be easy to do, plus it doesn't step on any toes concerning Heath, and it makes the plot flow better & and ties up loose ends like the beginning of TDK did.

JP
April 3rd, 2011, 03:42 PM
I agree. It would be easy to do, plus it doesn't step on any toes concerning Heath, and it makes the plot flow better & and ties up loose ends like the beginning of TDK did.

I totally agree, this sounds like the perfect little thing to add. Though to be honest, any kind of small cameo would be greatly welcomed in my book. :D

TRIFORCE89
April 4th, 2011, 06:26 AM
I saw a guy on YouTube once who was performing Joker lines from Burton's movie and the Animated Series, but as Ledger's Joker. He did a pretty damn good job.

Maybe they could use him for voice over?

[/not really]

Livewire
April 4th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Bale said he would return if Nolan did.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-20) Aaron Eckhart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Eckhart) had expressed his enthusiasm to return for a sequel if asked, although he later stated Nolan verified that his character, Harvey Dent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Face), is dead.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-21) Nolan confirmed that the ensemble cast from the first two films will be returning.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-Boucher-14) Tom Hardy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hardy) has been cast as Bane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_%28comics%29) and Anne Hathaway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hathaway_%28actress%29) will be playing Selina Kyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catwoman).[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-22) Joseph Gordon-Levitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gordon-Levitt) has been cast in an unknown role,[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-variety3-18-23)[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-24) and Juno Temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Temple) has been cast in a role described as a "street-smart Gotham girl".[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#cite_note-25)


I wonder who Juno Temple is going to play, seeing as Catwoman is taken? Hmmm. But Morgan Freeman is back for the TDKR. The universe is back in balance. Whew.

TRIFORCE89
April 4th, 2011, 08:00 AM
I wonder who Juno Temple is going to play, seeing as Catwoman is taken? Hmmm. But Morgan Freeman is back for the TDKR. The universe is back in balance. Whew.
Since Selina is there.... my guess Temple is Holly. Small role.

Livewire
April 4th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Since Selina is there.... my guess Temple is Holly. Small role.

Now Holly is another incarnation of Catwoman, correct? Like a successor to the current Catwoman?

(it's been awhile since I followed the comics. XD)

TRIFORCE89
April 4th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Now Holly is another incarnation of Catwoman, correct? Like a successor to the current Catwoman?

(it's been awhile since I followed the comics. XD)
Friend of Selina's in the Year One era (which Nolan's films are heavily based off of). She was, like Selina, a.. uh.. sexual worker.

WriteThemWrong
April 4th, 2011, 09:02 PM
She was, like Selina, a.. uh.. sexual worker.
If there's one thing that has been missing from the Batman movies it is sex. And sex sells. So bring on the "R" rating Nolan. Maybe?

JP
April 5th, 2011, 06:34 AM
If there's one thing that has been missing from the Batman movies it is sex. And sex sells. So bring on the "R" rating Nolan. Maybe?

OOOOH, I WISH! I wish they would make it an R rated movie. Sadly, I don't think they'll be willing to do such a thing. This is going to be the last Nolan Batman movie, you'd think with that in mind they'll want to attract all the people they can into seeing it.

Mr Cat Dog
April 5th, 2011, 06:40 AM
OOOOH, I WISH! I wish they would make it an R rated movie. Sadly, I don't think they'll be willing to do such a thing. This is going to be the last Nolan Batman movie, you'd think with that in mind they'll want to attract all the people they can into seeing it.

Oh yeah! This is going to be PG-13 aaaaaall the way. Warner Brothers aren't going to sacrifice all the little kiddies (and their money, of course) just to put a little bit of hardcore Bat/Cat/Other? action going on. Considering they'll probably want to outdo their gross for The Dark Knight (which is very unlikely, but good on them for trying), WB'll want to have as wide an audience as possible come to see this.

Livewire
April 6th, 2011, 07:52 AM
Oh yeah! This is going to be PG-13 aaaaaall the way. Warner Brothers aren't going to sacrifice all the little kiddies (and their money, of course) just to put a little bit of hardcore Bat/Cat/Other? action going on. Considering they'll probably want to outdo their gross for The Dark Knight (which is very unlikely, but good on them for trying), WB'll want to have as wide an audience as possible come to see this.

Sigh. :/ The Dark Knight was PG-13, but still maintained an somewhat edgy feel (Aaron Eckhart's face, the Joker's antics were pretty intense at times. etc) But R-rated would feel more like Batman, and it would be more in line with the Batman persona.

WriteThemWrong
April 6th, 2011, 08:02 AM
I don't think anyone who took their kids to Batman Begins expected TDK to be so adult. It's not a movie you take your kids to on a weekend to see a good movie, not unless the kid is really into Batman, if they were the parent should be very proud of themselves. I'm not sure a lot of parents are going to take their kids to see the TDKR after seeing the adult material in the last one.

Mr Cat Dog
April 6th, 2011, 08:15 AM
In the UK, The Dark Knight nearly got a '15' certificate instead of a '12', but the BBFC - the British equivalent of the MPAA - said that while it was unusually violent for a '12'-rated film, the fact that it was a superhero doing all of this and not a regular person meant viewers would be able to see the artificiality of it... which feels like spurious reasoning, but there you go.

And now some actual NEWS. ZOMG! TDKR will be shot in Pittsburgh (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-dark-knight-rises-will-shoot-in-beautiful-down,54187/) instead of Chicago. Interesting choice, given the architecture of the city and its general decaying nature... the sort of things that allowed films like The Road and Night of the Living Dead to be shot there (and what happy and joyous films they were!) Tax breaks probably had a lot to do with it but... whatever. Them's the nature of the business.

TRIFORCE89
April 6th, 2011, 08:51 PM
I don't think anyone who took their kids to Batman Begins expected TDK to be so adult. It's not a movie you take your kids to on a weekend to see a good movie, not unless the kid is really into Batman, if they were the parent should be very proud of themselves. I'm not sure a lot of parents are going to take their kids to see the TDKR after seeing the adult material in the last one.
I think the Scarecrow scenes would have terrified kids in Batman Begins. XD

Also, I wouldn't look too much into the shooting location for any hints of the atmosphere of the film. Batman Begins had a significantly grittier, dirtier look to Gotham that The Dark Knight had. Both were shot in Chicago. Nolan and Wally can work magic when needed lol

JP
April 7th, 2011, 05:18 PM
I think the Scarecrow scenes would have terrified kids in Batman Begins. XD

Also, I wouldn't look too much into the shooting location for any hints of the atmosphere of the film. Batman Begins had a significantly grittier, dirtier look to Gotham that The Dark Knight had. Both were shot in Chicago. Nolan and Wally can work magic when needed lol

Wasn't a majority of Gotham done with CGI in Batman Begins? I remember hearing this. Probably why it had such a gritty and dark atmosphere, which is clearly absent in The Dark Knight. Though... I suppose this has really nothing to do with any of this lol.

Mr Cat Dog
April 8th, 2011, 11:52 AM
Wasn't a majority of Gotham done with CGI in Batman Begins? I remember hearing this. Probably why it had such a gritty and dark atmosphere, which is clearly absent in The Dark Knight. Though... I suppose this has really nothing to do with any of this lol.

Batman Begins: mostly Shepperton Studios in England, with bits of Chicago, England and Iceland (for the Ra's al Ghul stuff)
The Dark Knight: mostly Chicago, but some studio action as well as Hong Kong

EDIT: Josh Spence (aka the guy who was Armie Hammer's body double in The Social Network) to play a younger version of Ra's al Ghul; more 'sorta' confirmation of Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul: http://www.avclub.com/articles/actor-who-was-sort-of-in-the-social-network-cast-a,54341/

TRIFORCE89
April 8th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Ah, you beat me. Was about to post the Josh Pence news.

How do you have flashbacks from somebody who died? Maybe, he's the next iteration of Ra's - since he is eternal in the comics

Mr Cat Dog
April 9th, 2011, 01:37 PM
I guess if Talia is in, they could be flashbacks from when she was a child and around her daddy? Unless any other characters would have been around to see a young Ra's al Ghul? (I'm veeeeery unfamiliar with the Batman comics, so have no idea!)

TRIFORCE89
April 9th, 2011, 01:58 PM
The idea of a young Ra's just doesn't seem right, in terms of flashbacks. Because, it's have to be *aaaaaaaagggggeeeeeees* ago. He stops aging after a while and come back to life and so on.

Going by comic book canon.


So, I'm more inclined to think that in Nolan cannon, Ra's may be a persona (kinda why there was that decoy in BB). Who heads up the league at that time. And so we have a new Ra's

Livewire
April 11th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Batman Begins: mostly Shepperton Studios in England, with bits of Chicago, England and Iceland (for the Ra's al Ghul stuff)
The Dark Knight: mostly Chicago, but some studio action as well as Hong Kong

EDIT: Josh Spence (aka the guy who was Armie Hammer's body double in The Social Network) to play a younger version of Ra's al Ghul; more 'sorta' confirmation of Marion Cotillard as Talia al Ghul: http://www.avclub.com/articles/actor-who-was-sort-of-in-the-social-network-cast-a,54341/

Ohhh my gossssh.

That's interesting. I wonder how he'll (Nolan) tie all these villains together without making things seem like Spiderman III. :/

Mr Cat Dog
April 15th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Moar casting news and such: http://www.avclub.com/articles/nestor-carbonell-returns-for-the-dark-knight-rises,54671/

The mayor apparently wearing eye liner... was that an actual issue or has the article just blown it slightly out of proportion? o_O

JP
April 15th, 2011, 04:32 PM
Moar casting news and such: http://www.avclub.com/articles/nestor-carbonell-returns-for-the-dark-knight-rises,54671/

The mayor apparently wearing eye liner... was that an actual issue or has the article just blown it slightly out of proportion? o_O

I think they're just blowing it out of proportion. XD I don't ever remember hearing anyone talking about that haha. Honestly though... he does look like he's wearing eyeliner.

TRIFORCE89
April 16th, 2011, 05:34 AM
That's how his eyes actually are. He was also on Lost and people commented about his eyes. XD

Mr Cat Dog
April 19th, 2011, 09:53 AM
Cotillard and Gordon-Levitt have ASSIGNED ROLES, people!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2011/04/19/gordon-levitt_cotillard_confirmed_for_the_dark_knight_rises/

Cotillard will appear as Miranda Tate, a Wayne Enterprises board member eager to help a still-grieving Bruce Wayne resume his father’s philanthropic endeavors for Gotham.
Gordon-Levitt will play John Blake, a Gotham City beat cop assigned to special duty under the command of Commissioner Gordon.

JP
April 19th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Nooooo, I really wanted to see Cotillard as Talia Al Ghul. :(

TRIFORCE89
April 19th, 2011, 02:37 PM
I'm relieved lol Did not want Talia in it.

The character wanting a philanthropic Bruce reminds be of Dr. Leslie a little

Livewire
April 21st, 2011, 02:07 PM
I would have liked Cotillard as Talia. She's gorgeous, but I always imagined Talai a bit younger of a character, like mid/late 20's.

But I'm quite happy with the roles they received. This is shaping up to be one hell of a movie.

TheUltimateSacrifice
April 23rd, 2011, 08:13 PM
Film of the decade. Hands down.

Livewire
May 3rd, 2011, 07:38 PM
Regardless, expect the movie to feature at least some scenes outside of Gotham. Nolan has reportedly scouted locations in Asia, suggesting a return to the League of Assassins perhaps...? New Orleans has also been named as a possible location. Scouting in Romania is probably due to the need for a new Batcave set. Definitely expect Batman to make use of the rebuilt Wayne Manor and Batcave in this sequel, as well as the inevitable new suit and other gadgets cooked up by Lucius Fox.

Evidently there was filming in Asia somewhere, leading the brass at IGN to believe that The league of Shadows, or more specifically, Raz, will be have a prominent role in TDKR. Hmmm.

Hydreigon
May 9th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned explicitly though, but I was looking over material for TDKR and found this:

"The Dark Knight Rises (http://www.movieweb.com/movie/the-dark-knight-rises) (aka MAGNUS REX & FOX HILLS GREEN) - Mid June, 2011 - India & London, UK & New York, NY & Pittsburgh, PA; STORY: As Batman deals with his new status as a wanted vigilante, Dr. Hugo Strange, a villainous psychiatrist, concocts a plan to destroy him and become the new Batman. (Posted: June 17, 2010. Revised: April 14, 2011)"Strange wants to become the new Batman? I know that as Bane, that was his MO, but I wonder how exactly Nolan will pull that off.

Oh and, Here's the Lazarus Pits, from the filming in India.
http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHOcMYrRgKhISU_1_m.jpg

TRIFORCE89
May 11th, 2011, 07:47 PM
The whole idea of a Lazarus Pit is just so goofy in Nolan-canon. I refuse to believe it until I see the movie

Mr Cat Dog
May 20th, 2011, 08:10 AM
http://www.avclub.com/articles/heres-your-first-look-at-bane-in-the-dark-knight-r,56378/

Nice little look at Tom Hardy as Bane. Can't be bothered to do the website-Twitter-challenge thingy, so it's nice that people have just gone ahead and cheated! Yay!

Riku
May 20th, 2011, 11:57 AM
He looks a tad like Hannibal Lecter. Not gonna lie. Just on steroids :x

Also: just read that it's confirmed that Gordon-Levitt plays some kind of cop.

Livewire
June 7th, 2011, 08:46 AM
http://www.reelzchannel.com/movie-news/10556/the-dark-knight-rises-videos-viral-goodness-or-elaborate-hoaxes/

Evidently the viral campaign for the TDKR has started! The videoes show mayhem and destruction in Gotham, as well as a faint chant of "Bane" in the '419' video. Thoughts?

Mr Cat Dog
June 16th, 2011, 08:53 AM
Spoilery spoilery spoilery spoilers, everyone! (http://www.avclub.com/articles/actor-films-spoilery-scene-for-the-dark-knight-ris,57661/)

Livewire
June 16th, 2011, 09:50 AM
Spoilery spoilery spoilery spoilers, everyone! (http://www.avclub.com/articles/actor-films-spoilery-scene-for-the-dark-knight-ris,57661/)

That's interesting! I had a feeling Liam would be in TDKR somehow. But I wonder if it's Ras in that sense- it could very well be just a flashback. Although, I think they could make realistic Lazarus pits, or a medical procedure reminiscent of it.

TRIFORCE89
June 16th, 2011, 06:23 PM
The more I read the more upset I become because it doesn't seem like it would mesh with Nolan's established universe. He's great at fantasy grounded in reality, so I'm also very interested to how he pulls it off. But drug-induced super-human strength and resurrection may be pushing it.

Livewire
June 17th, 2011, 07:56 AM
The more I read the more upset I become because it doesn't seem like it would mesh with Nolan's established universe. He's great at fantasy grounded in reality, so I'm also very interested to how he pulls it off. But drug-induced super-human strength and resurrection may be pushing it.

It does't have to be resurrection in that sense- a "Lazurus Pit" could be something like a Hyperbaric chamber, or the process itself could even be made around Stem cells or gene therapy, maybe not real resurrection in the sense that Ras would rise from the grave, but maybe a medical procedure that turns back the clock and heals on a cellular level. It's still a strech though, It'll be interesting to see how they do this.

Mr Cat Dog
July 11th, 2011, 02:28 PM
Phew! Was worried I was going to have to create a new thread for this. I think Livey/Triffy would have killed me for that!

Anyhoo, it's heavily (http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/the-dark-knight-rises-trailer-to-premire-before/223781) rumoured (http://www.hitfix.com/articles/report-the-dark-knight-rises-teaser-trailer-arriving-with-harry-potter) that the first trailer for TKDR will premiere after HP 7.5. Make of that what you will.

Livewire
July 11th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Phew! Was worried I was going to have to create a new thread for this. I think Livey/Triffy would have killed me for that!

Anyhoo, it's heavily (http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/the-dark-knight-rises-trailer-to-premire-before/223781) rumoured (http://www.hitfix.com/articles/report-the-dark-knight-rises-teaser-trailer-arriving-with-harry-potter) that the first trailer for TKDR will premiere after HP 7.5. Make of that what you will.

I'd be saddd. ;;

I've heard that rumor as well, and I hope to God it's true. That would be amazing, but what would it consist of? It'll probably just be a short teaser, + epic music and the Batman logo. Not that I'm complaining. XDD

TRIFORCE89
July 11th, 2011, 03:46 PM
It's confirmed. At least in Canada, specifically Alberta....

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx

Livewire
July 12th, 2011, 06:26 PM
BAM. The first look at the first poster of the Dark Knight Rises!

http://www.comicsbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-Poster-570x842.jpg

TRIFORCE89
July 13th, 2011, 03:37 AM
Based on the poster, I call... this movie being based-on/inspired the Cataclysm storyline in the comics. Earthquake in Gotham.

With liberties of course. Like how BB was loosely based on Year One, or TDK on The Man Who Laughs and The Long Halloween.

Interestingly, should this movie actually be based on Cataclysm... the upcoming Arkham City games seems to take inspiration from No Man's Land, which is the follow-up to Cataclysm.

Nuke
July 13th, 2011, 11:38 AM
I think having Bane and Catwoman as the villains will ruin the serious, dark theme set up in the last two films.

It would be the same for many of the other 'fun' batman villains.

I wouldn't mind if they were just secondary villains and Scarecrow was the main villain (I mean after brief appearances in the first two they must have been building for something).

JP
July 15th, 2011, 04:22 AM
So did anyone see the teaser trailer? I'm dying to see it but I don't want to check the bad online quality ones. ;-;

Livewire
July 17th, 2011, 09:09 PM
So did anyone see the teaser trailer? I'm dying to see it but I don't want to check the bad online quality ones. ;-;

Now remember it's a teaser, but It was pretty awesome. Literally the epitome of a good teaser - just barely enough so you know that it's Batman, but pretty mum on the major details & characters.

Kenshin5
July 17th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Christian Bale looks like srs biz with dim push ups. I saw the teaser at Harry Potter, I definitely got the continued "dark" feeling that this trilogy has. And was it me or was he going to box Bane? Cause I doubt that will end too well.

Mr Cat Dog
July 18th, 2011, 04:20 AM
I know it's not an official thingy, but I just had to post this when I saw it for the first time:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohmdde7oi1qhzdcmo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1311040911&Signature=yRLUw9vqgph3mVkhm5ehdciGUnA%3D

JP
July 18th, 2011, 01:55 PM
Now remember it's a teaser, but It was pretty awesome. Literally the epitome of a good teaser - just barely enough so you know that it's Batman, but pretty mum on the major details & characters.

Yeah I know haha, I ended up going to see HP the following day. It teased me and it got me hyped, for sure. I can't wait to see that fight between Bats and Bane!

Gold warehouse
July 18th, 2011, 02:30 PM
I saw the teaser today before HP came on. Despite it being just a teaser it did bring up a lot of anticipation for this film. And the music hgfgdgdfhhng. If they make this one as good as The Dark Knight it could go down as one of the greatest film trilogies.

TRIFORCE89
July 18th, 2011, 03:44 PM
I couldn't really make out the dialogue during the teaser, so I'm not all that hyped up :C

The Hatter
July 18th, 2011, 04:10 PM
I can't wait for this movie! Tom Hardy looks great as Bane. Although Bane isn't my favorite Batman villain, he certainly is one of the more realistic ones. I hope that Tom can pull it off, his body just doesn't seem Bane-like to me s: I am hoping that Ra's al Ghul is the secondary villain, because he is my favorite villain, other than Joker and Harley Quinn. Maybe we'll get some sort of Talia? That would be epic.

Also, I'm kind of confused about Gordon and Bruce. Does Gordon know Bruce is Batman? Because it seemed like Bruce is the one talking to Gordon, and he isn't using his "Batman" voice.

I couldn't really make out the dialogue during the teaser, so I'm not all that hyped up :C

It was Gordon saying that evil has returned, and the Batman needs to rise again to stop it.

Livewire
July 18th, 2011, 04:27 PM
I can't wait for this movie! Tom Hardy looks great as Bane. Although Bane isn't my favorite Batman villain, he certainly is one of the more realistic ones. I hope that Tom can pull it off, his body just doesn't seem Bane-like to me s: I am hoping that Ra's al Ghul is the secondary villain, because he is my favorite villain, other than Joker and Harley Quinn. Maybe we'll get some sort of Talia? That would be epic.

Also, I'm kind of confused about Gordon and Bruce. Does Gordon know Bruce is Batman? Because it seemed like Bruce is the one talking to Gordon, and he isn't using his "Batman" voice.



It was Gordon saying that evil has returned, and the Batman needs to rise again to stop it.

That's the impression that I got - Gordon must have either figured it out or Bruce physically told him.

If Gordon dies I will be pissed.

The Hatter
July 18th, 2011, 04:40 PM
That's the impression that I got - Gordon must have either figured it out or Bruce physically told him.

If Gordon dies I will be pissed.

I highly doubt that Nolan will kill him off. Nolan said himself that he liked Gordon more than Bruce.

Plus they kind of already did the whole "Death of Gordon" thing.

Livewire
July 18th, 2011, 05:29 PM
I highly doubt that Nolan will kill him off. Nolan said himself that he liked Gordon more than Bruce.

Plus they kind of already did the whole "Death of Gordon" thing.


Ehh, true. If he were to die, it would have been in TDK. I don't think everybody will make it out unscathed in TDKR, though. :/

Ayselipera
July 19th, 2011, 07:07 AM
The trailer looks really good, but there is still one problem... I didn't like the Dark Knight. Which gets me mad because I want to like it and I've seen it multiple times already, but I just cannot get into it. This is coming from a true Batman fan from childhood too! Either way I'm probably going to see this one anyways and just hope that by seeing it, it will somehow piece them altogether and make me like them all.

THANKFULLY Maggie Gyllenhaal was killed in the last movie (could not stand her) so hopefully I'll be able to get into this movie more. Plus Anne Hathaway is such a sweetie! I can't not like anything she's in.

TRIFORCE89
July 19th, 2011, 01:11 PM
The trailer looks really good, but there is still one problem... I didn't like the Dark Knight. Which gets me mad because I want to like it and I've seen it multiple times already, but I just cannot get into it. This is coming from a true Batman fan from childhood too! Either way I'm probably going to see this one anyways and just hope that by seeing it, it will somehow piece them altogether and make me like them all.

THANKFULLY Maggie Gyllenhaal was killed in the last movie (could not stand her) so hopefully I'll be able to get into this movie more. Plus Anne Hathaway is such a sweetie! I can't not like anything she's in.
Did you like Batman Begins? Maggie wasn't in it

Livewire
July 24th, 2011, 01:43 PM
The trailer looks really good, but there is still one problem... I didn't like the Dark Knight. Which gets me mad because I want to like it and I've seen it multiple times already, but I just cannot get into it. This is coming from a true Batman fan from childhood too! Either way I'm probably going to see this one anyways and just hope that by seeing it, it will somehow piece them altogether and make me like them all.

THANKFULLY Maggie Gyllenhaal was killed in the last movie (could not stand her) so hopefully I'll be able to get into this movie more. Plus Anne Hathaway is such a sweetie! I can't not like anything she's in.

I never liked Maggie Gyllenhaal either, the one flaw I found in TDK. :/ Then again, Katie Holmes never struck me as being a good Rachael Dawes either. Hathaway should have been in the Trilogy from the begininng, imo.

JP
August 5th, 2011, 09:18 AM
Guessing most of you might have seen this, but a picture of Anne Hathaway as Catwoman has been released, might be a spoiler!

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/118/1186306/first-look-anne-hathaway-as-catwoman-20110805051456359.jpg

:D

TRIFORCE89
August 5th, 2011, 03:01 PM
Well, that's not what I was expecting. She needs some sort of disguise for her head. Her cover is blown

Guy
August 5th, 2011, 04:05 PM
I heard that that's not her actual disguise, or if it is, it's not complete? Don't take my word for it though, I could be wrong.

When I first saw the image this morning on Yahoo!, my initial thought was that it didn't look very Catwoman-like. It just seemed pretty plain except for the high tech goggles. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing her play out the role of Selina.

I can't say Nolan doesn't know what he's doing.

JP
August 6th, 2011, 12:30 PM
I rather like it, but yeah I've also heard that this may be some sort of "transition" costume before Selina Kyle truly becomes Catwoman. I can't wait to see how she turns out in the role though, I think she'll do good.

Livewire
August 8th, 2011, 09:16 PM
I rather like it, but yeah I've also heard that this may be some sort of "transition" costume before Selina Kyle truly becomes Catwoman. I can't wait to see how she turns out in the role though, I think she'll do good.

Remember in BB when Bruce ambushed Lt. Gordon in his office with a stapler? He had a similar rudimentary costume then, and busted out the batsuit when he took down Falcone. Hopefully, it'll be something like that.

TRIFORCE89
August 10th, 2011, 05:51 PM
I'd rather she just stay as vigilante Selina or just The Cat and not full-on Catwoman.

Anyway, saw a photo of Marion Cotillard in costume. Looks very Ra's reminiscent. I know she's officially "Miranda Tate", but somehow I think this will end up being a Talia al Ghul role.

An interesting rumour I heard is that Nolan's going to try and cram a reference to each of the big villains in this movie and some of them you'd see. You just wouldn't notice it. Like how Zasz had that came in Batman Begins. He's there, but you don't notice he's there unless you freeze frame it. Maybe somewhere in the background we'll see a sign that reads "Iceberg Lounge" and what not.

Livewire
August 22nd, 2011, 06:51 AM
I'd rather she just stay as vigilante Selina or just The Cat and not full-on Catwoman.

Anyway, saw a photo of Marion Cotillard in costume. Looks very Ra's reminiscent. I know she's officially "Miranda Tate", but somehow I think this will end up being a Talia al Ghul role.

An interesting rumour I heard is that Nolan's going to try and cram a reference to each of the big villains in this movie and some of them you'd see. You just wouldn't notice it. Like how Zasz had that came in Batman Begins. He's there, but you don't notice he's there unless you freeze frame it. Maybe somewhere in the background we'll see a sign that reads "Iceberg Lounge" and what not.

Wasn't Talia romantically involved with Bruce at one point? That could explain why she'd be on the board.

And, the description given for Miranda Tate is that she wants Bruce to continue his philanthropic efforts for Gotham, which is somewhat similar to the economics plan Raz used in BB begins - it's all about the money. Hmmm.

Shining Raichu
August 24th, 2011, 07:42 PM
I know nothing about Batman - my first exposure to anything Batman whatsoever was The Dark Knight - but I am incredibly psyched for this movie based on Anne Hathaway alone! If she does better in the role of Catwoman than Halle Berry did (and that wouldn't be too difficult) then knowing how Hollywood milks things, perhaps she'll get her own spinoff Catwoman movie.

Livewire
September 12th, 2011, 04:30 PM
http://batman-news.com/2011/09/08/marion-cotillard-comments-on-the-dark-knight-rises-role-says-shes-not-from-the-comics/

Marion Cotillard evidedently confirms that she is not Talia Al Ghul. ;_; Sadness.

TRIFORCE89
September 13th, 2011, 04:43 PM
I'm happy about that. It always irked me as unnecessary.

Livewire
September 14th, 2011, 11:24 AM
I'm happy about that. It always irked me as unnecessary.

I would have liked to see Talia just because her inclusion would point to the movie being based off some of the best parts of the comic, the Knightfall story arc IIRC.

It seems like an awfully small part for a big actor, though.