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January 25th, 2011, 08:25 PM
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Code Geass

Welcome to PC's official fan club for Code Geass!

For those of you unfamiliar with the series:


Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion (コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュ, Kōdo Giasu: Hangyaku no Rurūshu? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)), often referred to as simply Code Geass, is a Japanese anime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime) series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_program) created by Sunrise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_%28company%29), directed by Gorō Taniguchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor%C5%8D_Taniguchi), and written by Ichirō Ōkouchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichir%C5%8D_%C5%8Ckouchi), with original character designs by Clamp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamp_%28manga_artists%29).

Code Geass first ran in Japan on MBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainichi_Broadcasting_System) from October 5, 2006, to July 28, 2007. Its sequel series, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 (コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュR2, Kōdo Giasu Hangyaku no Rurūshu Āru Tsū? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)), ran on MBS and TBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Broadcasting_System) from April 6, 2008 to September 28, 2008.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-moonphase-nt-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-tbs-move-2) Both seasons have won several awards at the Tokyo International Anime Fair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_International_Anime_Fair),[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-fair-3) Animage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animage) Anime Grand Prix, and Animation Kobe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animation_Kobe) event.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-kobe-4)


Plot


The series is set after Japan's conquest by the Holy Britannian Empire on August 10, 2010 a.t.b., with their powerful new robot weapons, the Knightmare Frames (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knightmare_Frame), stripping Japan and its citizens of all rights and freedoms and renaming the country Area 11. The titular Lelouch vi Britannia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelouch_vi_Britannia) is an intellectual Britannian prince who was sent as hostage, along with his sister Nunnally, by his father, Emperor Charles zi Britannia, after his mother was murdered, and has vowed to destroy Britannia. He gains an ability through the mysterious power of the Geass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#Geass), becoming the leader of the resistance movement to fulfill his two wishes: to seek revenge for his mother and to construct a world in which his beloved sister Nunnally can live happily.




Setting


Code Geass is set in an alternate universe where three superpowers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpower), the Holy Britannian Empire, the Chinese Federation, and the Euro Universe have divided the world between them (with the exception of an independent Australia) and maintain a tentative balance for the first part of the series. The balance shifts in the second season as the E.U. has much of its territory conquered by Britannia while Lelouch engineers a revolution in the Chinese Federation and creates a new alliance of countries, the United Federation of Nations, reducing the number of superpowers to two.


Holy Britannian Empire


The Holy Britannian Empire (神聖ブリタニア帝国, Shinsei Buritania Teikoku? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)) is an imperial monarchy and the most prominent superpower within the world of Code Geass, controlling over one-third of the world at the start of the series, based in North America with Pendragon, located in Texas near the Gulf Coast, as its capital. Britannian society is an aristocracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristocracy) run according to a caricature of Social Darwinism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism), with a hierarchy of competing nobles at the top and the peoples of conquered territories (referred to either by their area number or as "Numbers") living in poverty or as unequal Honorary Britannians.

During season one, the Britannian Empire controls the entire Western Hemisphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere) (both American continents), New Zealand, and recently conquered Japan, as well as the recently conquered "Area 18"[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-5) in the Middle East (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East) region. During season two, Britannia successfully conquers about half of the rival "Euro Universe" superpower; taking over France, Spain, the western half of Africa, and Russia.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-R2_Episode_02-6)

The series' history diverges with Julius Caesar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar)'s invasion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar%27s_invasions_of_Britain), when a Celtic "super-king" is elected (similar to the Arverni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arverni) chieftain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_chief) Vercingetorix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vercingetorix)), who successfully resisted the invasion and began the Britannian imperial line of absolute monarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_monarchy) (referred to in the establishment of the Britannian calendar era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_era), "Ascension Throne Britannia" (a.t.b) or the Imperial Calendar in the English dub, fifty five years earlier than the Gregorian calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar)).

Japan


Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) is the source of over 70% of the world's supply of the high energy mineral sakuradite. Britannia conquered it to gain control over that mineral. Japan was renamed Area 11 under Britannian rule. Through his alter-ego, Zero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelouch_Lamperouge#Zero), Lelouch attempts to restore Japan's independence as the "United States of Japan", as a step in his quest to overthrow Britannia.

Chinese Federation


The Chinese Federation (中華連邦, Chūka Renpō? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)) is an imperial monarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire) that spans the Asian and Pacific (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific) regions, including Central (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia), South (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia), East (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asia), and Southeast Asia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia), with Sakhalin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin) and the Korean Peninsula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Peninsula) and is the most populous (and poverty-stricken)... of the three superpowers.

Its political structure and organization appears to resemble the former Empire of China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China#Imperial_era), with the Emperor regarded as a living divinity and holding absolute political power, though under Empress Tianzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Code_Geass_characters#Tianzi), it has been reduced to a figurehead for the advisory "High Eunuchs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuch_%28court_official%29#China)" (大宦官, Dai Kangan? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)) (similar to the feudal era Emperors of Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_of_Japan)). The Vermilion Forbidden City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_City) (朱禁城, Shu Kinjō? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)) is the seat of the Chinese Emperor and the government of the Federation is a large palace situated in the capital city of Luoyang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luoyang).

In the first season, the Chinese Federation attempts unsuccessfully to invade Japan on the pretext of "liberation" using exiled former Japanese officials. The resistance movement in India lends Zero's Black Knights their lead weapons designer, Rakshata, in hopes that an independent Japan will in return aide them in gaining independence from China. In the second season, a Chinese consulate is established with the agreement of the local Britannian authorities and negotiations are held by Eunuch Gao Hai to the end of obtaining a solid Chinese foothold within the colony. After the Black Knights are exiled from Japan, they are granted control of Horai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horai) Island (蓬萊島? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)), a fictional artificial land mass built off the coast of China to generate electricity through tidal activity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_power). The Black Knights destabilize and overthrow the government, returning control to the Empress. Shortly after, the Federation collapses and its former member states are incorporated into the new United Federation of Nations.

Euro Universe


The Euro Universe (ユーロ・ユニバース, Yūro Yunibāsu? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)), or E.U., is a democratic union encompassing all of Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) (including Great Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain)), Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa), and Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia), which has been long in conflict with Britannia. In the second season, Schneizel leads the Britannian forces against the E.U., successfully conquering almost half of their territory, including Portugal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal), Spain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain), France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France), half of Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa), and the whole of Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-s2ep10-7) Following this, former member nations Italy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy), Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria), and Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland) (among others) join the forty-seven founding nations of the United Federation of Nations, leaving only Great Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain), Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland), Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany), The Netherlands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Netherlands), Belgium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium), Norway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway), Denmark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark), Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden), Finland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland), Ukraine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine), Belarus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus) and an area of Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa) near the Congo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_%28region%29).

United Federation of Nations


Following the collapse of the E.U. and the uprising in the Chinese Federation, most of the remaining territories not under Britannian control join forces and form the United Federation of Nations, a new coalition used by Lelouch to counter the Empire's advance as the sole other superpower. The U.F.N. flag is a white dove with three circles merging at the point where the wings and body meet, over a yellow background.



The U.F.N. is composed of forty-seven countries spread across parts of Central and Eastern Europe, Eastern Africa, and the majority of the Asian continent. Decisions in the U.F.N. are determined by a two-thirds majority vote by the leaders of each country, with the population of each country determining their voting percentage. The individual armies of the member nations are abolished and replaced by a new supranational military force under the Black Knights' control.




Rules
1. Standard forum-wide PC rules and Other Clubs rules apply
2. Use spoilers for newer content, if applicable
3. No disrespectful or inappropriate posting and/or behavior


Member List
1. Livewire466
2. Otherworld9)
3. Regeneration
4. Rasencero
5. -Lapras-
6. Hiinotama
7. Bay Alexson
8. Jack O' Neil



Discussion Point
For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

Who is your favorite character and why?

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?







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Otherworld9)
January 26th, 2011, 07:33 PM
A Code Geass Club at last. May I join?
-Otherworld9)
-I started watching Code Geass not long ago on Netflix....so I believe I stopped in Code geass R2, so I know I am way behind now....and I don't feel like skipping part one and two of R2 to 3, or else I wouldn't get anything.
-Sorry, I'll finish the series soon to post my opinion! :)

Regeneration
January 27th, 2011, 02:10 AM
I'm joining in right away!~

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?
I was really puzzled by Lelouch's actions towards the end of R2. From what I could understand of it, his actions were completely unjustified. Even if he wanted Suzaku to be Zero in the end, what was all that mindless slaughter for?

RASENCERO
January 27th, 2011, 07:55 AM
Awesome!
It has been quite a while since I saw it though.
Like two years ago. I don't remember everything exactly. :P
Btw, there was supposed to be a new Code Geass (R3?) anime project around this time. With a new story or something. Does someone know anything about it?

Also, there are several manga of CG, with some being an alternate world.
(Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, Suzaku of the Counterattack, Nightmare of Nunnally, Tales of an Alternate Shogunate)

"In late 2009, Bandai announced a new project greenlit for 2010. It is going to involve the simultaneous release of multiple products. A manga, titled Code Geass: Renya of Darkness (コードギアス 漆黒の連夜 Kōdo Giasu: Shikkoku no Renya?), is the first product announced. The story takes place in the same official Code Geass history as the anime, but in a different era. The title character, Renya, is a 17-year-old boy with a mechanical left arm and shuriken throwing stars as his weapons of choice. The story begins when Renya encounters a mysterious, perpetually young witch named "Reifū C.C." C.C. has appeared in Japan's historical Edo era to seek a new partner for a covenant. Meanwhile, a mysterious man, with a striking resemblance to the character Lelouch of the original anime, also appears with unknown intentions. Director Goro Taniguchi is scripting the story, which is meant to be another part of the official Code Geass history. It began publication in the May issue of Shōnen Ace."

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?
His actions led to a better world and I quite liked how the overall ended. But for such a smart guy, Lelouch could have still made it work without him having to die. Maybe he sought redemption by his own death and leaving the world as his legacy.

Weeaboo Name
January 27th, 2011, 08:09 AM
Joins, reallt loved both series.

I'm a fan of the anti-hero so i'm totally on Lulu's side. Chaotic good> Lawful good.

ナギ
January 27th, 2011, 08:42 AM
ee, a CG fanclub! i am in.
if you don't mind.

i've to say it's been quite a while since i saw it, and i saw it in a marathon with friends (both seasons, yes. not on the same day tho.)
... so i dont remember it toooo well. XD;

but as for the discussion..

LULU'S EFFORT: WORTH IT?
i've to say i found it genius. i did NOT see it coming, what he had planned out, until the last few minutes when Suzaku showed up as Zero. it was sheer genius. XD;
he wanted to unite the world.. and he completely succeeded.

and i really don't think he intended on killing those people.. but after the initial plan failed (what with Eufie's killing intent..) Zero had no choice but to become the bad guy i think .

Weeaboo Name
January 27th, 2011, 09:02 AM
I thought the stadium scene was brilliant, when I saw the eye contact I was actually in shock.

http://otakuism.animeblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlcsnap-200998.jpg

This sort of scene was the only thing R2 was missing (it got moved to a prime time spot i believe)

Bay Alexison
January 27th, 2011, 09:27 AM
Oh, a Code Geass Club? Count me in! :3 I watched the whole anime series a couple years ago, but I kinda fell off from the fandom so I might forget a few things here and there. I have friends from an IRC that still talks about Code Geass, so I'm getting interested again. And yeah, I'm wondering about R3 too. XD;

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?
I think it's justified. To me, Lelouch knows this has to happen and he has to be hated in order for this "Zero Requiem" to work. Oddly enough, Lelouch and Suzaku talking about the Zero Requiem at the end is my favorite part of the series, haha.

As for the deaths, I think some of them are unintentional too, but even some well thought out plans will leave unexpected results. That's all I'm going to say on that. XD

And Lapras, oh dang that stadium scene. Very intense stuff there. ;_;

Livewire
January 27th, 2011, 12:42 PM
I'm joining in right away!~

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?
I was really puzzled by Lelouch's actions towards the end of R2. From what I could understand of it, his actions were completely unjustified. Even if he wanted Suzaku to be Zero in the end, what was all that mindless slaughter for?



I think it was justified, because Lelouch knowingly sacrificed himself, as atonement for what he did, and to bring about his vision of a better world. Yeah, lots of people died, but that's warfare. It's not pretty. Plus, his world was so engulfed by warfare, hatred, and bloodshed (mostly from Britannia) that answering violence with violence was really the only option in order to change things. Like, the old "fight fire with fire" euphemism applies very well here.

Otherworld9)
January 27th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Awesome!
It has been quite a while since I saw it though.
Like two years ago. I don't remember everything exactly. :P
Btw, there was supposed to be a new Code Geass (R3?) anime project around this time. With a new story or something. Does someone know anything about it?

Also, there are several manga of CG, with some being an alternate world.
(Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, Suzaku of the Counterattack, Nightmare of Nunnally, Tales of an Alternate Shogunate)

I believe I remember seeing such a thing, but it is kind of blurry since it was way back somewhere around 2009, or maybe the beginning of 2010....I can't seem to make it out of plain memory. I do remember them mentioning Code Geass though....

Livewire
January 27th, 2011, 06:09 PM
I believe I remember seeing such a thing, but it is kind of blurry since it was way back somewhere around 2009, or maybe the beginning of 2010....I can't seem to make it out of plain memory. I do remember them mentioning Code Geass though....

You should re-watch it then. :D I found that I missed some things the first time through, and after watching it again I noticed more details and picked up on other things I missed the first time around. ;)

Shanghai Alice
January 27th, 2011, 06:37 PM
A Code Geass club?
http://cdimg1.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/09282008/d/9/4/9/d9491b5b7d8470_full.jpg

Livewire
January 27th, 2011, 07:37 PM
I thought the stadium scene was brilliant, when I saw the eye contact I was actually in shock.

http://otakuism.animeblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlcsnap-200998.jpg

This sort of scene was the only thing R2 was missing (it got moved to a prime time spot i believe)

That was a pretty intense part of the anime, no doubt there. Right up there with the Human Transmutation scene in FMA, in my opinion.

Shanghai Alice
January 27th, 2011, 08:27 PM
I laughed my head off at Euphemia. It was hilarious, for some reason.

Anyway. Geass was... amazing. It had the right mix of sheer absurdity, sheer awesomeness, and... sheer win at life in general.

Weeaboo Name
January 27th, 2011, 09:40 PM
Anime needs more moe massacres. ^_^

Livewire
January 27th, 2011, 09:49 PM
I laughed my head off at Euphemia. It was hilarious, for some reason.

Anyway. Geass was... amazing. It had the right mix of sheer absurdity, sheer awesomeness, and... sheer win at life in general.

Not to mention gratuitous fanservice.. i.e, Kallen Kozuki. ;)

I find that Suzaku supplies a lot of the absurdity, because evidently Physics doesn't apply for him.

Regeneration
January 28th, 2011, 02:18 AM
I think it was justified, because Lelouch knowingly sacrificed himself, as atonement for what he did, and to bring about his vision of a better world. Yeah, lots of people died, but that's warfare. It's not pretty. Plus, his world was so engulfed by warfare, hatred, and bloodshed (mostly from Britannia) that answering violence with violence was really the only option in order to change things. Like, the old "fight fire with fire" euphemism applies very well here.

I'll still be disagreeing with that. Violence is not the answer to violence. One thing I'd like to point out here is that Lelouch often used his Geass to order people to kill themselves or others, while he could have simply used Geass to ask them not to interfere in whatever he wanted to do. When non-violence is an option, using brute force is completely inhumane and unjustified.

Otherworld9)
January 28th, 2011, 03:54 AM
I'll still be disagreeing with that. Violence is not the answer to violence. One thing I'd like to point out here is that Lelouch often used his Geass to order people to kill themselves or others, while he could have simply used Geass to ask them not to interfere in whatever he wanted to do. When non-violence is an option, using brute force is completely inhumane and unjustified.

I agree in that he could've instead ordered them to not infere or some of the sort, but sometimes violence is necessary. Like people say, fight fire with fire, unless you have water. XD The Britannia wouldn't have responded to his peaceful tactics, so he used violent tactics to turn everything the way he wanted it to be, a world better than the one before.

Satoshi Ookami
January 28th, 2011, 05:53 AM
CG Fan Club?
I order you to sign me :D
As for the topic question:
I think they were... and Lelou did the right thing. I mean... he was able to make world peaceful... at least for some time =)

Livewire
January 28th, 2011, 10:06 PM
I'll still be disagreeing with that. Violence is not the answer to violence. One thing I'd like to point out here is that Lelouch often used his Geass to order people to kill themselves or others, while he could have simply used Geass to ask them not to interfere in whatever he wanted to do. When non-violence is an option, using brute force is completely inhumane and unjustified.

But had he gone down the non-violent route, then Britannia would have just had him killed anyways, and they would have conquered everything. In the world that was so indentured in violence and hatred, it was the only path to take. I think in Code Geass, it's asking to choose between evils, Britannia or Lelouch, and it makes the "which evil is greater" point early on, I think Lelouch specifically mentions that in the first few episodes.

Jack O'Neill
January 29th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Oh look, it's a Code Geass fanclub. Sign me up, I suppose.

As for the current discussion point:
Lelouch's actions up to his assumption of the Britannian throne were perfectly justifiable. Violence and deceit were his only options, and he made use of them.

The Zero Requiem, on the other hand, was just plain stupid. Lelouch focusing the world's hatred on himself and then committing suicide in the most over-the-top manner possible would have only secured complete peace for only a few months at the very most. Leave a massive power vacuum like he did, and people will try to fill it. Violently. Needless to say, there were better ways for Lelouch to secure the peace he so desired; apparently, just being a benevolent emperor wasn't good enough for him.

Of course, Lelouch wouldn't have had to go through with the Zero Requiem if the Black Knights hadn't been stupid enough to actually trust Schneizel. Nothing that happened after the nuking of the Tokyo Settlement really made any sense.

Regeneration
January 29th, 2011, 02:14 AM
But had he gone down the non-violent route, then Britannia would have just had him killed anyways, and they would have conquered everything. In the world that was so indentured in violence and hatred, it was the only path to take. I think in Code Geass, it's asking to choose between evils, Britannia or Lelouch, and it makes the "which evil is greater" point early on, I think Lelouch specifically mentions that in the first few episodes.
I'll buy that. xD

But Lelouch is a genius! We've seen his strategies in action in the battlefield, he couldn't have thought of anything better than to have the whole world hate him in the end?

Jack O'Neill
January 29th, 2011, 02:53 AM
But Lelouch is a genius! We've seen his strategies in action in the battlefield, he couldn't have thought of anything better than to have the whole world hate him in the end?
Lelouch was driven mad by Nunnally's supposed death and the betrayal of the Black Knights. It's pretty hard to think rationally when you've been punted far past the despair event horizon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DespairEventHorizon).

Of course, how the Black Knights betrayed Lelouch was just plain bad writing. Again, nothing that happened after the nuking of Tokyo really made any sense.

As for Lelouch's leadership abilities, he may be a tactical genius and an expert at reading people's motives, but his management skills are just plain horrible. The Black Knights' command structure was severely flawed in that it was too centralized; without Lelouch to micromanage their every move, the Black Knights ceased to be a cohesive fighting force.

Satoshi Ookami
January 30th, 2011, 12:38 AM
But Lelouch is a genius! We've seen his strategies in action in the battlefield, he couldn't have thought of anything better than to have the whole world hate him in the end?
Outcome is always decided by real-time tactic not strategy, isn't that right :D

RASENCERO
February 1st, 2011, 11:09 AM
Not necessarily. If you are able to understand all variables and calculate the effect of the factors which would have a significant influence on your strategy and adjust for the possibilities that might change the outcome, real-time tactics would do much. Realistically this isn't very probable, but Lelouch seems to have an superhuman skill to do so. (Without having serious mental problems, besides the whole "must massacre for world peace" part.)
:P

Livewire
February 1st, 2011, 06:55 PM
Lelouch was driven mad by Nunnally's supposed death and the betrayal of the Black Knights. It's pretty hard to think rationally when you've been punted far past the despair event horizon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DespairEventHorizon).

Of course, how the Black Knights betrayed Lelouch was just plain bad writing. Again, nothing that happened after the nuking of Tokyo really made any sense.

As for Lelouch's leadership abilities, he may be a tactical genius and an expert at reading people's motives, but his management skills are just plain horrible. The Black Knights' command structure was severely flawed in that it was too centralized; without Lelouch to micromanage their every move, the Black Knights ceased to be a cohesive fighting force.

Exactly. Without Zero, the Black Kights were rabble, despite having some other assets like Rakshata and Tohdoh. And even they would be almost useless without a puppet master to tell them how to move and act.

Jack O'Neill
February 1st, 2011, 07:21 PM
Exactly. Without Zero, the Black Kights were rabble, despite having some other assets like Rakshata and Tohdoh. And even they would be almost useless without a puppet master to tell them how to move and act.
Rakshata was definitely an invaluable asset to the Black Knights, but I still question Tohdoh's actual worth. If he was half as skilled a tactician as they said he was, he would have been able to salvage the first Black Rebellion in Lelouch's absence. The way I see it, he won at Itsukushima not by skill, but by a truly insane amount of luck.

Livewire
February 3rd, 2011, 09:30 AM
Rakshata was definitely an invaluable asset to the Black Knights, but I still question Tohdoh's actual worth. If he was half as skilled a tactician as they said he was, he would have been able to salvage the first Black Rebellion in Lelouch's absence. The way I see it, he won at Itsukushima not by skill, but by a truly insane amount of luck.

I do too, I do think however at the time Tohdoh had more military support from Kyoto, and overall, Japan at the time still possesed a degree of military power and unity, enough to potentially hold Brittania off, only for a little while. But I'm certain a fluke determined that battle, and it happened to favor the Japanese at the time.

Jack O'Neill
February 3rd, 2011, 05:17 PM
I do too, I do think however at the time Tohdoh had more military support from Kyoto, and overall, Japan at the time still possesed a degree of military power and unity, enough to potentially hold Brittania off, only for a little while. But I'm certain a fluke determined that battle, and it happened to favor the Japanese at the time.
When your opponents are stupid enough to actually use mecha despite knowing full well their weaknesses, you'd have to be truly incompetent to lose to the likes of them. The Miracle of Itsukushima really was a miracle.

The 35mm autocannons on the Type 89 IFV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Type_89_IFV) and Type 87 SPAAG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_87_self-propelled_anti-aircraft_gun) would be more than enough to mess up a Knightmare Frame in short order. Of course, the 120mm gun on the Type 90 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_90_Ky%C5%AB-maru) would be overkill against any Knightmare. Helicopters like the AH-1S Cobra and AH-64D Apache Longbow are the bane of tanks and other armored vehicles; why would they be less effective against Knightmares? Artillery pieces, be they towed like the FH-70 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FH-70) or self-propelled like the Type 99 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_99_155_mm_self-propelled_howitzer) and M270 MLRS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System), would pulverize Knightmares just as well as they would anything else. Hell, even infantry with Panzerfaust 3s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3), Carl Gustav recoilless rifles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_recoilless_rifle), and Type 01 LMATs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_01_LMAT) would utterly slaughter any Knightmare Frames on the ground; if confronted with Knightmare VTOLs or Float System-equipped Knightmares, all they need to do is get out a few Type 91 SAMs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_91_Surface-to-air_missile).

Again, the Japanese Army as a whole must have been truly incompetent to lose against an opponent that uses mecha.

Poster
February 5th, 2011, 12:08 AM
Count me in, Gee-no. Took me long enough to come back here and spin you down. Will participate in discussion later.

Livewire
February 13th, 2011, 05:37 PM
Count me in, Gee-no. Took me long enough to come back here and spin you down. Will participate in discussion later.

Welcome to the club, suuuzacoo.

I actually have another discussion topic to add:

Favorite Knightmare Frame.

Mine would have to be this:


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YF1tNfQVN8w/S6Tl7RUT7SI/AAAAAAAAphA/bIy4EWf6j8c/s400/1.JPG
Tristan Divider

and secondly,

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp188/VillettaNu/My%20army/shinkirou.png (javascript:void(0);)
The Shinkiro

SinisterEternity
February 13th, 2011, 05:46 PM
I NEED to join that club !! >n<

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

I think it was justified, and worth in the end. Although, there sure are some people who died innocently, like when Euphemia -but it wasn't really Lelouch's fault- killed all the japanese people.

Who is your favorite character and why?

Hum...Lelouch, because I like his voice, style and Lelouch...yeah. xD
But I also like Suzaku, Gino and Lloyd, yeah. :D

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Lancelot, because I like its design and power :D

Like seriously...I didn't know there were a Code Geass FC !! ;A;

Livewire
February 18th, 2011, 05:17 PM
I NEED to join that club !! >n<

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

I think it was justified, and worth in the end. Although, there sure are some people who died innocently, like when Euphemia -but it wasn't really Lelouch's fault- killed all the japanese people.

Who is your favorite character and why?

Hum...Lelouch, because I like his voice, style and Lelouch...yeah. xD
But I also like Suzaku, Gino and Lloyd, yeah. :D

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Lancelot, because I like its design and power :D

Like seriously...I didn't know there were a Code Geass FC !! ;A;


Welcome aboard! :D Yes, I had been meaning to make this for quite some time.

Now, has anybody heard about R3, the supposed new season? I've heard some scattered ideas, but I haven't seen any concrete proof of its existence yet.

SinisterEternity
February 18th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Welcome aboard! :D Yes, I had been meaning to make this for quite some time.

Now, has anybody heard about R3, the supposed new season? I've heard some scattered ideas, but I haven't seen any concrete proof of its existence yet.

Great idea ! >u<b

And yeah, but this

http://img2.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/dfbc81e95bafca0174eb1b62fdc0d5831270279896_full.jpg

Prevented me from wanting to watch it. xD
So I personnaly don't think I am going to watch it. Ever.
Unless Lelouch is the main character again. xD

Satoshi Ookami
February 19th, 2011, 12:25 AM
Now, has anybody heard about R3, the supposed new season? I've heard some scattered ideas, but I haven't seen any concrete proof of its existence yet.
Yeah there are rumors... just like SE mentioned there won't be Lelouch as main char but some new dude with mechanical arm.
It's going to be 3 or more years after R2 =)
That's what I've seen.

Livewire
February 19th, 2011, 01:17 AM
Great idea ! >u<b

And yeah, but this

http://img2.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/dfbc81e95bafca0174eb1b62fdc0d5831270279896_full.jpg

Prevented me from wanting to watch it. xD
So I personnaly don't think I am going to watch it. Ever.
Unless Lelouch is the main character again. xD


That is absolutely hideous. It has to be be a fake, because that looks like trash someone just drew. :x

Jack O'Neill
February 19th, 2011, 01:34 AM
That's not a promotion for a third season, that's a promotion for the prequel manga Renya of Darkness, which began publication last year. Seriously, it's VERY old news. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-07/code-geass/shikkoku-no-renya-manga-to-launch-in-2010) Besides, the closest we're ever going to get to a third season is going to be that Akito of the Ruined Land (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced) side story. Again, that's also old news. Really, would it kill any of you to do some actual research before jumping the gun on speculation?

Weeaboo Name
February 19th, 2011, 01:38 AM
Renya of Darkness is decent, of course it's nowhere near the level of Lulu but it's got some potential.

RASENCERO
February 19th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Check this out:
http://daggernov087.deviantart.com/gallery/
Quite funny :P

Wasn't there supposed to be a OVA release anytime soon?
Myanimelist already give the option to put it in your to watch list.
Or is it the same?

Weeaboo Name
February 19th, 2011, 11:17 AM
This (http://myanimelist.net/anime/8888/Code_Geass_Gaiden:_Boukoku_no_Akito)? Looks fine, but it doesn't seem very exciting. I guess only time will tell though.

I lol'd at this one. ^_^
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/027/a/d/The_Power_of_the_King_by_DAGGERNOV087.jpg

SinisterEternity
February 19th, 2011, 09:17 PM
That's not a promotion for a third season, that's a promotion for the prequel manga Renya of Darkness, which began publication last year. Seriously, it's VERY old news. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-07/code-geass/shikkoku-no-renya-manga-to-launch-in-2010) Besides, the closest we're ever going to get to a third season is going to be that Akito of the Ruined Land (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced) side story. Again, that's also old news. Really, would it kill any of you to do some actual research before jumping the gun on speculation?

Well sorry, but I actually did research when Live posted about R3. And found many many rumors, all being quite confusing. I might just have visited the wrong sites, however, I still think R2 doesn't need a sequel. :C

FrostPheonix
February 20th, 2011, 02:04 AM
Hello, could I join? Finished Geass only abt two months ago.

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

NO. I hate what lelouch did. He had the power of the Holy Brittanian military, the whole world, and then he has to say the only way for peace is suicide. I think the slaughter over the Damacles was justified, because that idiot schniezel would have nuked the world anyway. And so, I think that Lelouch did ok decisions before he was emperor of all, and later he was stupid and did suicide (technically).

Who is your favorite character and why?
my favorite character is.... Loyd. That guy is just funny.

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
I liked the frame Lelouch used (gawain?) best, mostly because of the hadron cannon.

Btw, I saw that you people were discussing R3. It is coming out. Confirmation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1bXfsT6mQ
I think its set in Europe. A group of Japanese soldiers are going in and have only a 10% success rate or something. Some more videos:
Japanese, dunno what it says...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4Fake opening, but looks really good.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgrzZU3o_g

Livewire
February 20th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Hello, could I join? Finished Geass only abt two months ago.

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

NO. I hate what lelouch did. He had the power of the Holy Brittanian military, the whole world, and then he has to say the only way for peace is suicide. I think the slaughter over the Damacles was justified, because that idiot schniezel would have nuked the world anyway. And so, I think that Lelouch did ok decisions before he was emperor of all, and later he was stupid and did suicide (technically).

Who is your favorite character and why?
my favorite character is.... Loyd. That guy is just funny.

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
I liked the frame Lelouch used (gawain?) best, mostly because of the hadron cannon.

Btw, I saw that you people were discussing R3. It is coming out. Confirmation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1bXfsT6mQ
I think its set in Europe. A group of Japanese soldiers are going in and have only a 10% success rate or something. Some more videos:
Japanese, dunno what it says...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4Fake opening, but looks really good.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgrzZU3o_g

OH.

MY.

GOD.


I do sincerely hope all of that is true. That sounds amazing, to be honest. I still would like confirmation first. /goes to dig around

RASENCERO
February 23rd, 2011, 02:50 PM
A bit late but:
Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Guren S.E.I.T.E.N. Eight Elements (Guren Seiten Hakkyokushiki lit. Crimson Lotus Heavenly Eight Extremities Type)
I mean, its awesome.
Wiki on Guren (http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Guren_S.E.I.T.E.N._Eight_Elements)

Jack O'Neill
February 23rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
If any of you grots bothered to read my earlier rant about the incompetence of the Japanese Army in Code Geass, it should be readily apparent that I don't like Knightmare Frames very much. If you're going to apply all these technological advances (Yggdrasil Drives, Blaze Luminous and Radiant Wave shields, VARIS rifles, hadron guns, et cetera) to mere mecha, why not also apply them to tanks and aircraft as well?

RASENCERO
February 24th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Yes, I did read that and do not entirely agree with it. Its true that "conventional" machines can damage quite a bit on KF, but keeping the fictional part in mind, Brittania would not replace tanks and choppers with KF if they were so easily to destroy. Not to mention that Brittania already conquered a good part of the world and was on the winning hand in the battle with the rest (I think, it been a while back since I saw it).
You said: "If you're going to apply all these technological advances (Yggdrasil Drives, Blaze Luminous and Radiant Wave shields, VARIS rifles, hadron guns, et cetera) to mere mecha, why not also apply them to tanks and aircraft as well?"
They current KF were either successors of the conventional machines or were simply better in order for KF to replace them. That is usually how it works. Furthermore, the KF are way more versatile, agile, powerful and only need one man to pilot.
If I am not mistaken, the KF came to be after researching airplane escape pods. They wanted to give escape pods legs to get a way quickly after ejecting and after that even arm them and such. For some reason it appeared to be effective enough.

Satoshi Ookami
February 24th, 2011, 06:33 AM
Favorite Knighmare?
Shinkiro. It's knightmare of king. It has absolute defense and it can pwn everything with Hadron Cannon.

Livewire
March 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Favorite Knighmare?
Shinkiro. It's knightmare of king. It has absolute defense and it can pwn everything with Hadron Cannon.

Shinkiro is one of the best designed Knightmares as well. It just looks really cool with the black/gold color scheme, and in japanese it means 'Mirage'. Pretty cool. ^o^

RASENCERO
March 5th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Agreed, If I had a list of KF it would be definitely be in the top 5.

Jack O'Neill
March 6th, 2011, 12:33 PM
The Shinkiro may look aesthetically pleasing, but it's horribly flawed as an actual combat weapon. The Absolute Defense Territory system is unnecessarily complex to operate and cannot stand up to sustained attacks. The Zero Beam, while certainly a powerful weapon, requires that the shield be dropped before it can be used and needs an extremely fragile prism in order to be useful at long range. Without the Zero Beam, the Shinkiro is woefully underarmed, with only a pair of wrist-mounted light hadron guns for its backup armament; it has absolutely no way to defend itself against close-range attacks, as ultimately demonstrated when the Tristan Divider chopped it up into tiny pieces.

ナギ
March 9th, 2011, 02:31 PM
in conclusion, Jack here would kick Lulu's ass any day.

seriously tho, i might not have analyzed every situation and all warfare machinery, but with your.. um, rebuttals it seems the entire anime was bull anyway .
while i thought it was all quite clever. well, of course KFs and the like aren't exactly what you'd call realistic, but you can't disagree they're all some kind of awesome. XD;

sigh. can't argue with you though.
need to rewatch first, do my share of research XD;

Livewire
March 9th, 2011, 03:31 PM
in conclusion, Jack here would kick Lulu's ass any day.

seriously tho, i might not have analyzed every situation and all warfare machinery, but with your.. um, rebuttals it seems the entire anime was bull anyway .
while i thought it was all quite clever. well, of course KFs and the like aren't exactly what you'd call realistic, but you can't disagree they're all some kind of awesome. XD;

sigh. can't argue with you though.
need to rewatch first, do my share of research XD;

Ignore him, much like everyone else does.

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/codegeass/geass-r2/rza-10js.jpghttp://www.mahq.net/mecha/codegeass/geass-r2/rza-1a.jpg

I actually have come to love the Percival and the Galahad designs. Percivals' design and weaponry are very fitting of Lord Bradley, being the sick masochistic sociopath he is. I expected a bit more of Bismark, given his Geass, to be honest. But then again, I blame the production crew for Suzaku's gross 'power creep'. He annihilated half of the Knights of the Round, easily, including Bismark. :/

Jack O'Neill
March 9th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Ignore him, much like everyone else does.

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/codegeass/geass-r2/rza-10js.jpghttp://www.mahq.net/mecha/codegeass/geass-r2/rza-1a.jpg

I actually have come to love the Percival and the Galahad designs. Percivals' design and weaponry are very fitting of Lord Bradley, being the sick masochistic sociopath he is. I expected a bit more of Bismark, given his Geass, to be honest. But then again, I blame the production crew for Suzaku's gross 'power creep'. He annihilated half of the Knights of the Round, easily, including Bismark. :/
The Percival's design actually amuses me considerably, considering that its primary weapon is an energy drill. In that respect, it's basically the closest thing in the Code Geass universe to Gurren Lagann. Also, don't you mean "sadistic"? Luciano Bradley loves to dish out the pain, but he doesn't particularly like being on the receiving end of it, judging from his panicked reactions when Kallen thoroughly kicked his ass.

As for the Galahad, they basically took the Gawain, gutted it of all the equipment that made it a worthwhile combat unit (the Druid System, the dual hadron cannons, and the Gefjun Disturber), and slapped on an impractically large sword. No wonder Bismarck got his ass handed to him by Suzaku; not even a Geass that gives him precognition could make up for an underarmed and outdated Knightmare. Also, the tropes you're looking for are actually Can't Catch Up (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitleb55q7pd7k3nf), Lensman Arms Race (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LensmanArmsRace), and Villain Decay (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainDecay); Power Creep (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerCreep) explicitly applies only to video game weapons.

While I'm at it, at least you and I can agree that the Knights of the Round who weren't Suzaku, Anya, or Luciano all got shafted something fierce. Gino Weinberg, Bismarck Waldstein, Monica Kruszewski, and Dorothea Ernst are the poster people for wasted character potential in the entire franchise; Monica and Dorothea in particular got the shortest end of the stick, seeing as they didn't even get custom Knightmares. Poor Nonnette Enneagram didn't even get to appear in the anime apart from a single cameo, though she was a rather important character in one of the video games.

Livewire
March 10th, 2011, 02:06 PM
The Percival's design actually amuses me considerably, considering that its primary weapon is an energy drill. In that respect, it's basically the closest thing in the Code Geass universe to Gurren Lagann. Also, don't you mean "sadistic"? Luciano Bradley loves to dish out the pain, but he doesn't particularly like being on the receiving end of it, judging from his panicked reactions when Kallen thoroughly kicked his ass.

As for the Galahad, they basically took the Gawain, gutted it of all the equipment that made it a worthwhile combat unit (the Druid System, the dual hadron cannons, and the Gefjun Disturber), and slapped on an impractically large sword. No wonder Bismarck got his ass handed to him by Suzaku; not even a Geass that gives him precognition could make up for an underarmed and outdated Knightmare. Also, the tropes you're looking for are actually Can't Catch Up (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitleb55q7pd7k3nf), Lensman Arms Race (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LensmanArmsRace), and Villain Decay (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainDecay); Power Creep (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerCreep) explicitly applies only to video game weapons.

While I'm at it, at least you and I can agree that the Knights of the Round who weren't Suzaku, Anya, or Luciano all got shafted something fierce. Gino Weinberg, Bismarck Waldstein, Monica Kruszewski, and Dorothea Ernst are the poster people for wasted character potential in the entire franchise; Monica and Dorothea in particular got the shortest end of the stick, seeing as they didn't even get custom Knightmares. Poor Nonnette Enneagram didn't even get to appear in the anime apart from a single cameo, though she was a rather important character in one of the video games.

The elite soldiers of the empire, well, aren't that elite. I agree, I wish more detail was assigned to the Knights you mentioned. While Gino is my favorite, I think the female knights in particular deserved a bit more air time, (Along with a less lobotomized Anya) and I would have liked to have seen an encounter between either Monica, Nonnette and Dorethea with the illustrious Ms. Kallen Kozuki.

Jack O'Neill
March 11th, 2011, 12:24 PM
The elite soldiers of the empire, well, aren't that elite. I agree, I wish more detail was assigned to the Knights you mentioned. While Gino is my favorite, I think the female knights in particular deserved a bit more air time, (Along with a less lobotomized Anya) and I would have liked to have seen an encounter between either Monica, Nonnette and Dorethea with the illustrious Ms. Kallen Kozuki.
To be honest, I both hate and pity Gino. I hate him because I think he's a complete and utter twit, and I pity him because the writers never gave him the positive character development he so desperately needed. As for Anya, I also agree that it wouldn't have hurt to have made her even slightly less brain-dead. A four-on-one fight with Anya, Monica, Dorothea, and Nonnette versus Kallen would have truly been a crowning moment of awesome, but knowing just how utterly overpowered the Guren SEITEN is, it probably would have had the same outcome as the Guren SEITEN's debut against the Valkryie Squadron during the Second Battle of Tokyo.

Come to mention it, there's another set of utterly wasted characters right there. I find myself agreeing with the comments on this pic at Danbooru (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/295911/); Marika Soresi and Liliana Vergamon definitely needed just as much love and attention as Monica, Dorothea, and Nonnette.

Rainy Day
March 15th, 2011, 06:52 PM
Code Geass is ungodly awesome. I'll be joining.

As for the discussions points:

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?
Some of his actions were, others weren't. That's one of the things I find most interesting about him as a character. He's very complex, and isn't a straightforward evil or good type.

Who is your favorite character and why?
Lelouch and C.C. are both incredibly complex. The others aren't particularly interesting, 'cept maybe Suzaku and Schneizel.

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Shinkirou. Always been a fan of the "type-really-fast-to-win" mechas.

Livewire
March 15th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Code Geass is ungodly awesome. I'll be joining.

As for the discussions points:

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?
Some of his actions were, others weren't. That's one of the things I find most interesting about him as a character. He's very complex, and isn't a straightforward evil or good type.

Who is your favorite character and why?
Lelouch and C.C. are both incredibly complex. The others aren't particularly interesting, 'cept maybe Suzaku and Schneizel.

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Shinkirou. Always been a fan of the "type-really-fast-to-win" mechas.



Hi! welcome!

As far as I see it, Lelouch is fighting evil with evil. Yes, he killed many people, and spilled blood wherever he went. He also rid the world of the Britanian Empire and all the evil they did to the world. So it's up to individual interpretation.

Cresselia
March 16th, 2011, 02:04 PM
Hello there, I would love to join! I watched Code Geass when it first aired in Japan, and it will always be on my top 10 anime list.

Who is your favorite character and why?

In the first season, it was definitely Suzaku. I liked his fighting style, and thought his whole dedication to protecting Euphie was admirable. In the second season though, Kallen gradually became my favorite. I love how loyal she is, and she had some pretty awesome scenes in the last few episodes.

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?

Lancelot Frontier, because it had the best design and color scheme, IMO. ;D I enjoy seeing most of C.C.'s mechs, because though they are sometimes inferior, they are very unique and still put up a good fight.

And just for old times:

http://i51.tinypic.com/wrc2dx.jpg

EPIC SUBTITLES!!!

Jack O'Neill
March 18th, 2011, 12:31 PM
And just for old times:

http://i51.tinypic.com/wrc2dx.jpg

EPIC SUBTITLES!!!
While we're on the topic of idiosyncratic subtitles and motivational posters:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8182/kallendz5.jpg

Also, even though we haven't seemed to forget what this show is really about, we still need this reminder every now and then:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/AnimeMan127/Code%20Geass/633548452896383015-codegeassitsasho.jpg

Livewire
March 23rd, 2011, 07:35 AM
<3 @ The Valkyrie squadron


I'll just drop these here.


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0908/bodystairs-code-geass-anime-death-note-facepalm-bodystairs-demotivational-poster-1250743921.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/209/codegeass5.jpg

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbk5oxR9cX1qerx9fo1_500.jpg

Jack O'Neill
March 25th, 2011, 12:43 PM
<3 @ The Valkyrie squadron


I'll just drop these here.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/209/codegeass5.jpg
About time you noticed what I had to say about the Valkyrie Squadron. Looks like there's yet another thing we can agree on with regards to this series.

Also, you need the extended version of the Coke meme:
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k444/Lord_Nur/GeassSoda4.jpg

Livewire
April 6th, 2011, 08:26 AM
Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?

Lancelot Frontier, because it had the best design and color scheme, IMO. ;D I enjoy seeing most of C.C.'s mechs, because though they are sometimes inferior, they are very unique and still put up a good fight.

EPIC SUBTITLES!!!

Nothing will ever be as intimidating as an immortal babe in a hot pink death machine. XD

Jack O'Neill
April 6th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Regarding aesthetics, I preferred C.C.'s personalized Akatsuki Command Model Zikisan over the Lancelot Frontier.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091211215052/codegeass/images/e/e7/Type-05-jikisan-cc-air-cannon.jpghttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100511220136/codegeass/images/1/19/Z-01_Frontier.png

Compare, contrast. The Lancelot Frontier may be a more capable combat unit on paper (for what little that was worth when C.C. fought Kallen and the Guren SEITEN), but it's just so insufferably gaudy. At least they fixed a glaring problem with the original Lancelot (not like C.C. would have really needed the ejection capsule anyway, but still) and added some other stuff like the Percival's rocket launcher/shield.

RASENCERO
May 4th, 2011, 08:45 AM
New Random Topic:
Knightmare Frame Vs. Gundam

Livewire
May 4th, 2011, 10:38 AM
New Random Topic:
Knightmare Frame Vs. Gundam

I love me some Gundam, but I'd rather have a Knightmare frame for a multitude of reasons. Gundam Hell Scythe Custom Vs. Mordred would be a pretty interesting fight. Sandrock vs. Galahad. Hmmm.

Jack O'Neill
May 4th, 2011, 05:11 PM
The typical Gundam is at least four times the size of a standard Knightmare Frame and possesses weapons and durability far in excess of even the most advanced KMFs. Even a grunt unit like a Zaku II, GM, Leo, GINN, Windam, Flag, or Tieren would be more than a match for any Knightmare Frame. Only advantage I can see for the Knightmares is their small size, which makes them harder to target and allows them to hide in places where the Gundams can't get to them; even so, they'll still get pasted with a single shot, and the majority of Knightmare Frame weapons won't do more than scratch the paint on the Gundams.

By the way, Gundam Heavyarms would be a far more appropriate matchup against the Mordred, seeing as they're both heavy artillery mecha. Sandrock versus Galahad would be rather unfair, seeing as Sandrock possesses ranged weaponry (even if it's just two head-mounted Gatling guns in the Kai variant); Epyon would be a far more appropriate foe, as it and Galahad are both melee-only.

Of course, if all you want is a curbstomp, just bring out the RX-93, the F91, the Strike Freedom, and the 00 Raiser and call it a day. Not even Suzaku's "live on" command will allow him to weasel his way out of the asskicking he'll receive.

FrostPheonix
May 24th, 2011, 11:58 AM
You have to remember, the people of Gundam have reached the space age. The people of geass have not. Therefore, if the people in geass had the time to research more, and kept on going in their state of constant warfare, they could probably beat up gundam frames by the time they reach the space exploration time.

Of course, if Gundam isnt space age, my argument is dead. They are in outerspace, right? Several videos show them in space...