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King Gumball
February 5th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Discuss about the Elite Four of Unova here. What did you think of their Pokemon, designs, types and their E4 tower? What did you think of the champion/ Who is your favourite? How hard were they? What are their re match teams like?

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/38/VSShikimi.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:VSShikimi.png)Shikimi, E4 1. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4f/Spr_5b_563.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_563.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/ee/Spr_5b_593_f.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_593_f.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f6/Spr_5b_623.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_623.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e7/Spr_5b_609.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_609.png)
Rematch:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4f/Spr_5b_563.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_563.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/ee/Spr_5b_593_f.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_593_f.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f6/Spr_5b_623.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_623.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e7/Spr_5b_609.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_609.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d5/Spr_5b_478.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_478.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/89/Spr_5b_426.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_426.png)
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e1/VSGiima.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:VSGiima.png)Giima, E4 2. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c8/Spr_5b_560.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_560.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c8/Spr_5b_553.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_553.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d8/Spr_5b_510.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_510.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5e/Spr_5b_625.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_625.png)
Rematch:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c8/Spr_5b_560.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_560.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c8/Spr_5b_553.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_553.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d8/Spr_5b_510.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_510.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5e/Spr_5b_625.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_625.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b0/Spr_5b_319.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_319.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e3/Spr_5b_452.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_452.png)
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/09/VSCaitlin.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:VSCaitlin.png)Caitlyn, E4 3. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/63/579.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:579.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/39/Spr_5b_561.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_561.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/1b/Spr_5b_518.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_518.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e6/Spr_5b_576.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_576.png)
Rematch:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/63/579.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:579.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/39/Spr_5b_561.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_561.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/1b/Spr_5b_518.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_518.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e6/Spr_5b_576.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_576.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c8/Spr_5b_437.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_437.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/be/Spr_5b_376.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_376.png)

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e2/VSRenbu.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:VSRenbu.png)Renbu, E4 4. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/91/Spr_5b_538.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_538.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/ca/Spr_5b_539.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_539.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/06/Spr_5b_534.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_534.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/8a/620.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:620.png)
Rematch:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/91/Spr_5b_538.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_538.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/ca/Spr_5b_539.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_539.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/06/Spr_5b_534.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_534.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/8a/620.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:620.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/af/Spr_5b_454_m.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_454_m.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/75/Spr_4d_286.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_4d_286.png)
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/fb/VSAdeku.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:VSAdeku.png)Adeku, CHAMPION. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/20/Spr_5b_617.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_617.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4f/Spr_5b_626.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_626.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3a/Spr_5b_621.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_621.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/df/Spr_5b_584.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_584.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/08/Spr_5b_589.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_589.png)http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/18/Spr_5b_637.png (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_637.png)

NejiForce
February 5th, 2011, 01:27 AM
I loved the battle against Giima it was just great because I had not many Types ehich were good or bad against him it was a fair and difficult battle
(The Elite this time was best ever more powerful better types and the cool Battlegrounds)

PlatinumDude
February 5th, 2011, 02:48 AM
I like Caitlin because she made a comeback from Pt/HG/SS. I also like Giima because he has cool Pokemon.

GlitchCity
February 5th, 2011, 10:46 AM
I really dont think I cant take Adeku serious as a champion........with that battle theme of his.
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Im going to be all giddy when Im battle him lol

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 5th, 2011, 10:55 AM
I really dont think I cant take Adeku serious as a champion........with that battle theme of his.
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Im going to be all giddy when Im battle him lol
Haha I can't take him seriously either...his theme sounds so cheery compared to Blue,Lance/Red,Steven/Wallance, and Cynthia's themes...
Also his team doesn't seem like a team a champion would have...the only pokemon that really matches is the Fire/Bug moth...

Manila Luzon
February 5th, 2011, 10:57 AM
Idk why but I really Giimas' design and type, but I dislike the fact he's wearing Heels lmao :(

Renbu makes my blood boil >:( His ninja meercat thing kept beating me;__;

metalflygon08
February 5th, 2011, 03:05 PM
Renbu should've gotten scrafty, it seems more Renbuish, but there isn't enough dark types for giima then.

bobandbill
February 5th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Adeku reminded me a fair lot of Dakim from the game Pokemon Colosseum when I first saw him, and then a friend pointed out that he seemed to have a similar face to Professor Oak. Now I find the combination hard to unsee. XD

Caitlyn did strike me as an odd choice - I don't dislike her but she seemed to be pretty insignificant in the BF in HGSS/Pt in the first place, and I don't recall her being 'sleepy' all the time there?

Personally I would have also preferred their teams to have stuck to 5 Pokemon the first time around - 4 just seems to be making it a touch to easy, or leastways to me it did. They sure have snazzy rooms though, and the idea that you can battle them in any order you want is certainly interesting - wonder how many people go for the ones they have a type advantage over first, or if they leave them for last?

The Red Chain
February 5th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Actually, I like the cheeriness in Adeku's theme a lot. :3
It really suits his upbeat attitude and that silly smirk he has on his Versus sprite.

Since I haven't yet beaten the E4 [ I don't want to finish Whiteeee ;~; ], I can't give my thoughts on the battles or their teams yet since I refuse to open the spoilers.
But by looks I really like Adeku and Shikimi, they both look stunning. <3

MrGriszell
February 5th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Haha I can't take him seriously either...his theme sounds so cheery compared to Blue,Lance/Red,Steven/Wallance, and Cynthia's themes...
Also his team doesn't seem like a team a champion would have...the only pokemon that really matches is the Fire/Bug moth...

Ill have to disagree with you on that one. I think since he is older he knows not to flaunt his power. I imagine his personality is like jiraiya from naruto

MysticFlygon
February 5th, 2011, 05:00 PM
I like Adeku's theme and it does seem to highly fit his personality. As for the E4, I think their theme is slightly better than the Hoenn E4's but we'll see if that is still the case in the RSE remakes. Also, I like Shikimi's design; one of the better and more unique ones so far.

Erufuun
February 5th, 2011, 05:19 PM
I love Giima the best~ <333 (Haven't really played the Elite four, so I dunno how any of them are yet.)
He looks like a cross between Saturn and Koga, FRAKING awesome! XD

And isn't Caitlyn the lady from the Battle Castle? XD That is so cool! :3 That's a first, they reused a character! Aside from Koga being in the Elite four in Gen II.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 5th, 2011, 05:21 PM
I wish they told us how Caitlin made it to Unova from Sinnoh though...or maybe she's a native who moved to Sinnoh and then moved back to Unova...

Erufuun
February 5th, 2011, 05:25 PM
I wish they told us how Caitlin made it to Unova from Sinnoh though...or maybe she's a native who moved to Sinnoh and then moved back to Unova...

Hey, maybe there are some Easter eggs in the game no one has found yet..... Or a question better answer for the third game! :D
Hmmm, I think it would be more likely she started small in the Sinnoh Frontier, then moved to Unova to be in the League.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 5th, 2011, 05:31 PM
I like Adeku's theme and it does seem to highly fit his personality. As for the E4, I think their theme is slightly better than the Hoenn E4's but we'll see if that is still the case in the RSE remakes. Also, I like Shikimi's design; one of the better and more unique ones so far.
I haven't heard the Unova E4 theme but if it is better than Hoenn's than this E4 has to have an Epic theme as Hoenn's was pretty epic.
Adeku's theme kind of remind me of one of Hoenn's songs for some reason...

Gulpin
February 5th, 2011, 07:13 PM
I love how you can battle them in any order :D A cool new feature I think. I started with the hardest and worked my way down, just to knock out the hardest when my Pokemon where at full ability. Also, my favorite is probably Cailtyn, I'm just not much a fan of the other designs and her room was pretty neat :D

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 5th, 2011, 07:20 PM
I like the idea of battling them in what order you want too :) I'm probably going to start with the hardest too unless he's too hard to beat...

Theab95
February 5th, 2011, 08:25 PM
Caitlin had the best room design and she is the hardest, Giima didn't have a zoroark
which is disappointing.

Tropical Sunlight
February 6th, 2011, 12:11 AM
I love how you can battle them in any order :D A cool new feature I think. I started with the hardest and worked my way down, just to knock out the hardest when my Pokemon where at full ability. Also, my favorite is probably Cailtyn, I'm just not much a fan of the other designs and her room was pretty neat :D
Caitlin's room was the best for me too. And the fact that she just woke up when I came to battle her XD

RulerArceus
February 6th, 2011, 02:15 AM
I love Adeku's theme!It fits him.Look at his smile.It makes me get that kindof felling hes saying Hey,kid!wanna battle? yet he still understands your'e going to be a tough opponent.
My favourite of the E4 is Adeku.If he doesn't count, then Giima because of Scrafty.
Peace,
¬RulerArceus

TehPsychicTypeMaster
February 6th, 2011, 09:38 AM
I love Giima out of all the E4 in Isshu/Unova, even though his team is a bit disappointing and quite easy to challenge. I love his room design it looks so ominous with all of the candlelit backdrop, looks like dracula in the making.

For Adeku, I think he's the worse Champion so far. His teams is mostly Bug types with can be clearly wiped easily, his design looks like someone from DBZ. Even Steven Stone, Gary, Cythnia, and Lance had much better designs.

Newbie 2.0
February 6th, 2011, 09:47 AM
I really like this new Elite Four. Dark type guy looks cool.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE
February 6th, 2011, 11:49 AM
I like Renbu and Giima, and I think Shikimi looks pretty cool too.

metalflygon08
February 7th, 2011, 08:24 AM
Caitlen has some backstory, the reason she didn't battle in 4th gen, her psychic powers were not yet under her control, and she would lose herself in the heat of the battle and injure the opponent, years later, she gained control, and allowed herself to battle again, and worked her way to the e4.

Porygon Z
February 7th, 2011, 08:34 AM
If I don't go wrong, in this gen's E4 there is an order where a type is super-effective against one other.
So, Dark is super-effective on Ghost-type, Ghost-type on Psychic-type, Psychic-type on Fight-type, Fight-type on Dark-type.

DarkNecroWolf
February 7th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Honestly, I thought they were pretty lame, and not even close to a challange, thats just my opinion.

MrGriszell
February 11th, 2011, 12:09 AM
I wanted to make a thread about my favorite person in the pokemon games.....Adeku. No since the english games yet to come out we only know bits a pieces about him. I read some stuff about him and i must say he seems to be the deepest pokemon champion we have ever had. What are your guys thought about him? Did you find any info about him maybe the rest of us missed? please tell

Forever
February 11th, 2011, 12:26 AM
Adeku is apart of the Elite Four, so it really only fits in this thread. Plus people were already discussing him here, including yourself. :(

If there's anything "significant" about him, it belongs here.

MrGriszell
February 11th, 2011, 12:29 AM
Adeku is apart of the Elite Four, so it really only fits in this thread. Plus people were already discussing him here, including yourself. :(

If there's anything "significant" about him, it belongs here.


Hmmm i guess it does make sense to put him but you made me think, is it really fair to group the champion of the region with the eliet four? I figure they work hard to pretty much own them in a battle right? lol

Comokanu
February 11th, 2011, 11:22 AM
Caitlin had the best room design and she is the hardest, Giima didn't have a zoroark
which is disappointing.

That's because N used a Zoroark.

Caitlin was pretty funny too. It's nice to see some old friends(haven't played Platinum in a while).

trevman727
February 12th, 2011, 01:16 PM
I've never fought them yet, but Adeku seems like it's gonna be an epic battle.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 12th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Adeku should have been a Bug type trainer...after all half of his team is already made out of bug types...might as well have given him three more...

Fushigidane-Chan
February 12th, 2011, 03:37 PM
I love Caitlin and Adeku, design-wise. Renbu's pretty cool, I just can't stand the eye color. The rest... meh.

Their rematch teams are excellent, for the most part, but they're vastly underleveled the first time you battle them, and I hate the fact the E4 only have four Pokemon the first time around. They were pretty nerfed in comparison to post E4s.

Haowakeorden
February 12th, 2011, 06:24 PM
One thing that stands out a lot for me, unrelated to anyone in the Elite Four in particular, is that the Elite Four levels aren't outrageously higher than you could reasonably train to in Victory Road. It's good because it doesn't interrupt the flow of the game as much as it did in R/B.

MrGriszell
February 13th, 2011, 08:19 PM
Ok i was looking thru some translations of the game and it seems that the champion has the power to tell everybody in the region what to do, what do you guys think about that?

Mato
February 13th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Giima appeals to me the most. I like his design and his Dark Pokemon. Two of his Pokemon, I want in B/W.

metalflygon08
February 14th, 2011, 11:51 AM
That's because N used a Zoroark.

Caitlin was pretty funny too. It's nice to see some old friends(haven't played Platinum in a while).


That didn't stop N and Ghetis from practically copying the entire e4 and Champion.

The only different Pokemon are Carracosta, Archeops, Klinklang, Zoroak, Seismitoad, Hydreigon. 6 out of 12 Pokemon, so giving Giima a Zoroak wouldn't have been an isshu.

Remarkable
February 14th, 2011, 08:57 PM
I like Caithlin and Shauntal out of the the elite four.Battling them is one of the best part in the league for me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 14th, 2011, 09:18 PM
I'm hoping that the Unova E4 provide me as much of a Challenge as the Hoenn E4 did years ago...though their teams don't seem too strong :/

MrGriszell
February 14th, 2011, 10:21 PM
I'm hoping that the Unova E4 provide me as much of a Challenge as the Hoenn E4 did years ago...though their teams don't seem too strong :/

They wont the first time. But then again i have high expectation of my pokemon, i train 4 of them for each one to take on a eliet four member and all there pokemon by them selves , so i could just be tooo strong when i get to them

Ravecat
February 15th, 2011, 12:13 AM
Well the rematches having level 70-80 Pokémon they should be a challenge.

I wouldn't like it if the first round was impossible without immense grinding, because to me it would detract from the flow of the game and story. Being able to go back and then fight them at much higher levels is a great way of doing it.