how to breed double-edge to slowpoke?

[pseudovector]

Hi,

I want to make a curselax that knows earthquake, double-edge, curse, and rest.
I have a marowak that knows earthquake and double-edge. I want to breed the marowak with a slowpoke, so the new slowpoke knows curse, earthquake, and double-edge, then breed the slowpoke with a snorlax. The problem is that when I hatch the egg, the new slowpoke knows curse, earthquake, tackle, and yawn, but no double-edge. Double-edge is a learned move in FR/LG for slowpoke, but I thought I could still breed learned moves.

What's the trick to breeding earthquake and double-edge to a slowpoke? I have tried this breeding in kanto and hoenn with the same results in both regions.

[Composer of Requiems]

Maybe you can teach it after it hatches? You don't have to have it at LV5...

[Xilion_Sword90]

Hmmm...

Maybe Slowpoke erased Double-Edge for Yawn before hatching?

Maybe breed another one?

I'm sure of nothing...

[pseudovector]

Maybe you can teach it after it hatches? You don't have to have it at LV5...

I already taught double-edge to someone else. The only way I can get my slowpoke to learn it now, is by breeding (I thought).

[Shuckle]

This is an easy one. Allow me to explain. In order for you to get DE to Slowpoke, you must first breed the marowak with DE to a slowpoke that already has DE. It is fairly simple =O

[pseudovector]

This is an easy one. Allow me to explain. In order for you to get DE to Slowpoke, you must first breed the marowak with DE to a slowpoke that already has DE. It is fairly simple =O

But this means that if I already taught double-edge to a pokemon which is not a slowpoke, then it cannot be bred to any slowpokes at all. So by your explanation the only way to breed DE to slowpokes is to first teach a slowpoke the move from the appropriate in-game person. If you let someone else learn DE first, then you can't have slowpokes that learn DE.

Is this right?

[Shuckle]

No. In order for a poke to start with a move they level up to learn, both parents must know the move.

[pseudovector]

No. In order for a poke to start with a move they level up to learn, both parents must know the move.

But they do not level up to learn it. It is a "learned move" only for slowpoke. Meaning that is taught by one of the in-game people (by someone near the end of victory road I believe).

[Toothache]

Here's your problem - since Slowpoke can't learn Double-Edge at all, you can't breed it onto him. Slowbro and Slowking can learn Double-Edge, but since the lowest form cannot learn Double-Edge, it messed up the breeding chain.

There is a solution, albeit a long one.

First off, breed the Marowak with Double-Edge with Rhyhorn. Then breed Rhyhorn with Torkoal, to learn both Double-Edge and Curse. Now, breed with another Rhyhorn (since you can't breed mother and child together) to get Rhyhorn with both Double-Edge and Curse, and level up to learn Earthquake. Finally, breed that with Snorlax to get all 3 moves on Snorlax, and he learns Rest naturally.

[pseudovector]

Here's your problem - since Slowpoke can't learn Double-Edge at all, you can't breed it onto him. Slowbro and Slowking can learn Double-Edge, but since the lowest form cannot learn Double-Edge, it messed up the breeding chain.

Thanks for the breeding chain you offered. I will try it and let everyone know if it works.

According to my pokedex in the nintendo official guide for FR/LG, slowpoke can learn double-edge. It's marked as LM (learned move). Maybe it's a typo. And this may only work in Kanto, since slowpoke has a symbol indicating it learns different moves in the different regions. I hatched this slowpoke egg in Hoenn and tried this breeding in Kanto and Hoenn. Maybe I need to have a slowpoke raised in Kanto for this to work?

If you would, please let me know where you got your info about slowpoke not learning double edge.

[Toothache]

According to my source (NetBattle Pokedex), Slowpoke cannot learn Double-Edge, and Slowbro and Slowking can only learn the move via Move Tutor. If you are using the Prima guide for Fire Red/Leaf Green, there are a lot of errors with that guide so I'd recommend against using it.

[pseudovector]

If you are using the Prima guide for Fire Red/Leaf Green, there are a lot of errors with that guide so I'd recommend against using it.

I'm using the official Nintendo player's guide for FR/LG, published by Nintendo Power. Pokedex at serebii.net also says slowpoke can learn double-edge via move tutor. Maybe you can't breed the move tutor taught moves. I thought you could. I was hoping someone could clarify the rules for sure.

I tried hatching a slowpoke egg in Kanto then breeding with earthquake/double-edge marowak and it didn't work. I'll try the torkoal chain in sapphire now. Breeding in FR/LG sucks anyway, since there is no mach bike. I find doing bike road, fly, bike road, fly... a pain.

[pseudovector]

First off, breed the Marowak with Double-Edge with Rhyhorn. Then breed Rhyhorn with Torkoal, to learn both Double-Edge and Curse. Now, breed with another Rhyhorn (since you can't breed mother and child together) to get Rhyhorn with both Double-Edge and Curse, and level up to learn Earthquake. Finally, breed that with Snorlax to get all 3 moves on Snorlax, and he learns Rest naturally.

Didn't work. The hatched rhyhorn knows earthquake, but not double-edge.

[Deaths Jaws]

ill experiment with what ive got atm for you and let you know if it can be done...but i thenk you will have to skip slowpoke and just use Torkoal and marowak and rhyhorn an possibly one more move...then again passing 3 moves onto a baby usually gets one dropped of for some reason in my experiance...like with my salamence breeding chain.

Jaws....

[pseudovector]

ill experiment with what ive got atm for you and let you know if it can be done...but i thenk you will have to skip slowpoke and just use Torkoal and marowak and rhyhorn an possibly one more move...then again passing 3 moves onto a baby usually gets one dropped of for some reason in my experiance...like with my salamence breeding chain.

Jaws....

Thanks. Let me know if you can get this to work. I have given up for now and just bred my aron which knows double-edge and earthquake, with a slowpoke. The slowpoke only got earthquake. I then bred that to a snorlax and the baby snorlax knows curse and earthquake (no double-edge though :\ )

It sucks if you can not breed the LM moves, but that may be the case.

[Toothache]

It may be a lot easier to get Double-Edge onto Torkoal from Jigglypuff, since they learn the move naturally:

Chain stage 1:
Jigglypuff -> Pichu - Pichu with Double-Edge
Evolve to Pikachu

Chain stage 2:
Pikachu -> Torkoal - Torkoal with Double-Edge
Level up Torkoal to learn Curse

Chain stage 3:
Torkoal -> Rhyhorn - Rhyhorn with Double-Edge and Curse
Level up Rhyhorn to learn Earthquake

Chain stage 4:
Rhyhorn -> Snorlax - Snorlax with Double-Edge, Curse and Earthquake
Level up Snorlax to learn Rest

[pseudovector]

It may be a lot easier to get Double-Edge onto Torkoal from Jigglypuff, since they learn the move naturally:

Chain stage 1:
Jigglypuff -> Pichu - Pichu with Double-Edge
Evolve to Pikachu

Chain stage 2:
Pikachu -> Torkoal - Torkoal with Double-Edge
Level up Torkoal to learn Curse

Chain stage 3:
Torkoal -> Rhyhorn - Rhyhorn with Double-Edge and Curse
Level up Rhyhorn to learn Earthquake

Chain stage 4:
Rhyhorn -> Snorlax - Snorlax with Double-Edge, Curse and Earthquake
Level up Snorlax to learn Rest

I don't think it will work. I tried breeding my marowak that knows double-edge and earthquake with a rhyhorn. The baby rhyhorn hatched with earthquake but not double-edge. According to my pokedex, double-edge is a learned moved (i.e. via FR/LG teacher). This is the same situation for slowpoke. I can not breed double-edge to either of them.

[Toothache]

Well, that is a problem. Hhm, I was under the impression you can breed Move Tutor moves the same way you can breed TMs, although it would seem that is not the case. I'll do some further research and I'll see what I can come up with.

[Deaths Jaws]

hehe...the great breeder has come unstuck :)

nah just kidding :)

Jaws...

[Drayano]

You can't breed Move Tutor moves, period. I did an experiment a while ago trying to hatch a Paras with a Male Ledyba w/Subby, but nothing came up. And no, I didn't save, I'm not wasting Substitute o.o

[Toothache]

I did a little experimenting of my own, came up with the same results. Unfortunately, unless the Pokemon can learn a move by egg move or TM, it cannot learn the move by breeding. No breeding of Move Tutor moves. Which sucks for a lot of moves until Emerald comes out, since a lot of the Move Tutor moves can be gained multiple times (including a few new ones like Ice Punch/Fire Punch/Thunderpunch).

[pseudovector]

Unfortunately, unless the Pokemon can learn a move by egg move or TM, it cannot learn the move by breeding. No breeding of Move Tutor moves.

I agree it sucks. I am kind of surprised by this. I guess I will do curselax with curse, rest, body slam/psychic/hyper beam (can't make up my mind), and earthquake. I need to buy a used LG so I get all the goodies off it and move them off to FR and start again...

Thanks for all your help.