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Dizzy
September 8th, 2003, 05:26 PM
Have you ever seen a pokemon that looks nothing like its predescessor or doesnt resemble it in anyway

Thats what this thread is for ^^

Phanphy evolving into something huge would make more sense ^^

this is part of My incorrect collection ^^ copyrighted by Dizzy

Timbjerr
September 8th, 2003, 05:29 PM
Classic example:

Remoraid-->Octillary

Frostweaver
September 8th, 2003, 05:42 PM
remoraid one is a classic...

Phanpy evolving into Donphan looks right to me. Donphan is pretty big too. Plus you can tell they're both elephants...

Dizzy
September 8th, 2003, 05:57 PM
heres what i thought evolved into what

Remoraid > Mantine

yea but donphan might be an elephant but it looks rather short and stumpy to resemble such a creature

Timbjerr
September 8th, 2003, 05:59 PM
another one is:

Poliwhirl-->Politoed

They look nothing alike, Politoed just looks like the odd one out of that particular evolution line...

Dizzy
September 8th, 2003, 06:08 PM
yep thats another one ............

Heres one ............. but u might not agree

Horsea > Kingdra , it resembles horsea more with the single back fin
Horsea > Seadra , it looks more like a complex evolution

Frostweaver
September 8th, 2003, 06:12 PM
yep thats another one ............

Heres one ............. but u might not agree

Horsea > Kingdra , it resembles horsea more with the single back fin
Horsea > Seadra , it looks more like a complex evolution

indeed... i do not agree with you (again)...

Magikarp and Gyarados. How can ppl forget this one?

Dizzy
September 8th, 2003, 06:16 PM
Magikarp ................... that thing

same thing with Feebas

Iveechan
September 9th, 2003, 12:49 AM
I think Poliwhirl into Politoed make perfect sense... tadpole into frog, plus 'toed has a bit of the belly swirl and the shiny eyes.

Here's one: Tyrogue into either Hitmonlee or Hitmontop. Even though 'rogue has a few of the characteristics of them, seeing him evolve into a kicking potato or a break dancing beast with Pikachu eyes seems weird. Tyrogue looks the most like Hitmonchan.

Whismur to Loudred. Whoa o.O

Jason
September 9th, 2003, 01:07 AM
Haha...
Dragonair - Dragonite
Theres another one I cant **** remember...

Dizzy
September 9th, 2003, 10:28 AM
torchic to combusken ...................

Pezz
September 9th, 2003, 11:20 AM
Torchic to Combusken makes sense to me, even though Combusken has to be one of the ugliest Pokemon in existence.

I agree with Remoraid into Octillery as well. Although I I understand why Phanpy evolved into Donphan, I wish they would have made a different elephant type. I don't like Donphan too much, but I love Phanpy.

I also agree with Dragonair into Dragonite, although it sorta makes sense, there's not much resemblence.

Erm yeah, how do Poliwhirl into Politoed not make sense?

StellarWind
September 9th, 2003, 10:24 PM
Poliwhirl = Tadpole.
Politoed = Frog.
Tadpole -> Frog.

Does that explain it? :P

Phanpy = Small Elephant.
Donphan = Larger Elephant.

Simple upgrade evolution, stick a cut car tire on its back and you get Donphan. The end.

Anyway, here's a few:

Grovyle into Sceptile. Whilst Sceptile would make sense as an evolution of Treecko (It is after all really just a Treeckosaurus Rex), it makes utterly no sense when put immediately after the sleek, somewhat-dragonish Grovyle.

Dragonair into Dragonite. AGH. How can something as graceful as Dragonair can evolve into that winged Barney recolor?

Octillery and Remoraid don't make sense either. I don't think that Octillery is a 'true' octopus, but rather a fish that has taken the form of an Octopod. A fish simply cannot turn into a Mollusk.

And as Ivee mentioned, The cuteish Tyrogue into the mutant Kicking Spud of a Hitmonlee or the Beyblade Wannabe Hitmontop.

But the craziest thing ever to grace Pokemon is Clamperl. Uh, explain to me how can a Pearl (the real Pokemon is the Pearl, NOT the clam) can evolve into an Eel? or a Lamprey/Hagfish/Just-Whatever-The-Hades-Gorebyss-Is-Supposed-To-Be?

Frostweaver
September 9th, 2003, 10:35 PM
i think the shell is part of the body (just not the vital part the pearl would be... like the relationship between a snail and its shell)

The dragonair/dragonite and the remoraid/octillery are old examples... i won't really talk about them. I personally find the Treecko line ok... they all look related to me.

Clamperl doesn't make sense at all... even after it's holding a scale or a tooth it won't evolve into something like that... i should have thought about that one but i suppose Clamperl just slipped out of my mind.

Gr8Person62
September 10th, 2003, 11:59 PM
I think the whole concept of the existance of the pokmon "Luvdisc" is stupid? What the heck is that little turd?

Frostweaver
September 11th, 2003, 11:37 PM
um... luvdisc is based on a heart shape? (The RS Pinball picture shows you a better view of Luvdisc)

it's another filler Pokemon that's completely useless... it isn't even useful in efg moves and breeding chains too

Iveechan
September 12th, 2003, 02:41 AM
Its only use is stealing heart scales off of it. Man, why does RS have so many water Pokemon anyway? Atleast make them have cool type combos like steel and ghost.

StellarWind
September 12th, 2003, 02:42 AM
Luvdisc is based on a certain disc-shaped fish, I think. Whatever it is, its pure evil, pure pointless, and shouldn't have existed.

Haruka
September 12th, 2003, 11:48 AM
Nah... Whats more evil... hmmmm. I really don't know.. I know whats the most useless pokemon. ODDISH!

Dizzy
September 12th, 2003, 12:31 PM
bellsprout is also useless .

i dont see why they have weed pokemon

Frostweaver
September 12th, 2003, 03:02 PM
That's because Oddish and Bellsprout both evolve into a fairly powerful Pokemon. Bellosum was a pretty fair tank (not as good as Curselax of course -_- ) while Vileplume got the highest sp.att only next to Sunflora, but can last a few more turns more than Sunflora too. Victreebel in GSC is the grass type physical attacker, with swords dance and sludge bomb at its side... and the powders too...

Kairi
September 12th, 2003, 03:16 PM
Vileplume is also one of the few AromaTherapy users obtainable at the moment.

RBY had a lot of "useless" Pokmon due to Mewtwo.

Frostweaver
September 12th, 2003, 03:30 PM
but then again, Color Advance may balance things out... who knows?

Roselia who is completely defenseless at physical attacks is the only other Pokemon with aromatherapy... or is there someone else too who can learn it naturally?

Timbjerr
September 12th, 2003, 03:40 PM
this is officially off-topic...

I still think poliwhirl --> politoed is completely pointless...why have a fairly useless parish songer when you can have a far more powerful mind reader?

Frostweaver
September 12th, 2003, 03:47 PM
k i'll just get carried away too for a sec on my free wind ^_^

Politoed is supposed leaning towards sp.att, while Poliwrath is like the physical attacker.

Kairi
September 12th, 2003, 03:50 PM
I do that all the time, really... ^_^;;

Umm...well I think most evolutions are fine, I just don't like baby Pokmon. If they want to add moves to a Pokmon's repertoire, then just add 'em. No need for babies.

Frostweaver
September 12th, 2003, 03:56 PM
aren't you a mod Kairi? you're suppose to be a good role model for all members, not to join us in our crazy acts you know XD :laugh:

The only baby Pokemon that is more useful is probably Tyrogue... at least it starts a more interesting method of evolution...

Rift
September 12th, 2003, 06:54 PM
I think its really stupid to have a fish evolve into a octopus O_o anyway, i think that Syther and Scizor arnt exactly twins! i mean its body is totally shaped differnt adn it has claws not syths!

Frostweaver
September 13th, 2003, 05:53 PM
well scyther and scizor are a lot better than gyarados, milotic, octillery and etc... they look "right" to me to be in the same evolution line.

Iveechan
September 13th, 2003, 10:14 PM
I think it's weird how Scyther goes from having this cute, fanged, dinosaur face to this weird face that has a tiny mouth o.O

now i need to contribute

uh...

ok, they don't evolve, but doesn't Miltank make an odd female Tauros? Tauros is all strong and animalish looking, and Miltank is this pink, bipedal cartoony cow... with a ball at the end of its tail. Atleast the other Pokemon with sex differences (the nido and the fireflies) actually look like the same species. The steers have almost nothing in common.

Dizzy
September 15th, 2003, 10:48 AM
Hey I like Milotic ^^ , its a dancer type ..... well its not , but it is graceful

Iveechan
September 15th, 2003, 12:00 PM
Erm... what does liking Milotic have to do with the topic? Or are you saying you like that Feebas evolves into it?

Dizzy
September 16th, 2003, 11:37 AM
I am saying I like Milotic , I hate Feebas , and Magikarp , They are worthless .......... even the pokedex says so !

Anyways , Ninetales is the best pokemon it should be either ghost , or since its decieving maybe a dark type ..... Seadra should be part poison if it has a poison-point.

Also Raichu should be a fighter , i dont know why but it looks like one , it alsolooks like it would make a good ground type ...... but thats my opinion.

Lanceiscool
October 28th, 2003, 06:13 AM
Zubat->Golbat->Crobat. Their Bodies change completly. Little mouth to huge mouth to tooth dominated mouth.

Also Gastly->Haunter. Where do those hands come from?

Dizzy
October 28th, 2003, 01:06 PM
Evolution Metamorphasis , Thing of a Butterfly
Many legs > no legs > two - six legs

Frostweaver
October 28th, 2003, 03:01 PM
plus really... they're just gas. They should be able to form themselves into any shape they desire (like how Haunter stretched his hands out so far away from its "body" in Morty's gym episode)

Lanceiscool
October 29th, 2003, 06:53 AM
plus really... they're just gas. They should be able to form themselves into any shape they desire (like how Haunter stretched his hands out so far away from its "body" in Morty's gym episode)

Ahhhh... point taken. But how about Trapinch->Vibrava? THAT MAKES NO SENSE!

Rift
October 29th, 2003, 02:17 PM
well, in a way i think Trapinch is like a bug and when it evolves it sprouts wings and flies! okay that was stupid huh! ^_^;

Frostweaver
October 29th, 2003, 06:01 PM
Trapinch is suppose to be an antlion... while a dragonfly is suppose to evolve from Naiads (just so happens to have the same name as a nymph... but don't get the fearie and the insect mixed up please)

(picture of naiad: http://insectzoo.msstate.edu/Images/7812832b.jpg )

Trapinch and a naiad doesn't look alike at all to me... an antlion doesn't transform into a dragonfly you know... -_-

^^NICK^^ v.2.0
November 2nd, 2003, 02:17 PM
I think Pikachu and Pidgeot look nothing alike! O wait...@_@

Groudon
November 3rd, 2003, 05:54 AM
All I can say is I think Dizzy has some sort of problem watching a Pokemon's evo line, so what if Kingdra loses 2 limbs after evolving? So do bugs that start from a grub-like stage (Butterflies, beetles ect) the lose like 15 legs. It doesn't effect it in any know way does it? I didn't think so =\.

Remoraid and Mantine look nothing alike and have nothing in common iether than being water types and fish.

I think the point of Luvdisc is to maybe have it evolving into something in a further game like Syther did.

Allstories
November 3rd, 2003, 12:02 PM
I thought it was odd that Phanphy evolved into Donphan simply because of our expectations after we saw the first screenshots of it. I mean, after everyone saw them, they all thought "Hey, this thing is huge!" only to find that it's only about two feet tall.

jynx
November 3rd, 2003, 12:10 PM
Dragonair-->Dragonite
They...look nothing alike...

Smoochum-->Jynx
Erm..they should add something uglier than Smoochum in the middle.

Pichu-->Pikachu-->Raichu
Notice, that both Pichu and Raichu have round hands and feet, whilst Pikachu has sharp fingers.

Frostweaver
November 3rd, 2003, 03:04 PM
not really on topic... but seems like the Pokemon World has no difference between fresh water and salt water. Remoraid is a fresh water fish, but how do we find Remoraids sticking on Mantines for rides without swimming into salt water... Mantine lives in the sea we're certain of that. Remoraid lives in the river (fresh water). So how does these two even see each other is a mystery. How the Remoraids can survive the dramatic difference between fresh and salt water just to hitch a ride from Mantine is even a greater mystery...

bna_li
November 4th, 2003, 04:35 AM
yep thats another one ............

Heres one ............. but u might not agree

Horsea > Kingdra , it resembles horsea more with the single back fin
Horsea > Seadra , it looks more like a complex evolution
Where do you get a Horsea? (sorry if this is abit off topic but I didnt know where to post it)

Arcanine
November 4th, 2003, 06:00 AM
Where do you get a Horsea? (sorry if this is abit off topic but I didnt know where to post it)
It would help if you told what game you want it in. And you can post in here (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=821) if you want it in R/S.

jynx
November 4th, 2003, 11:14 AM
not really on topic... but seems like the Pokemon World has no difference between fresh water and salt water. Remoraid is a fresh water fish, but how do we find Remoraids sticking on Mantines for rides without swimming into salt water... Mantine lives in the sea we're certain of that. Remoraid lives in the river (fresh water). So how does these two even see each other is a mystery. How the Remoraids can survive the dramatic difference between fresh and salt water just to hitch a ride from Mantine is even a greater mystery...
What exactly a Remoraid is?

Frostweaver
November 4th, 2003, 03:05 PM
Remoraid- name comes from the fish Remora + raid. It's a water pokemon that will evolve into Octillery. It is also commonly found sticking on Mantines hitching a ride from them.

http://pokelost.free.fr/bigbang/remoraid.gif

jynx
November 5th, 2003, 03:23 AM
How come I can't get one in my Crystal?

AzureFlygon
November 8th, 2003, 12:06 PM
How come I can't get one in my Crystal?

you can't get a remoraid in crystal, their one of the unobtainable Pokemon... I think (Haven't played crystal in a while)
On the topic however. One I noticed that seemed weird was Surskit to Masqurain? How did they come up with that one? I mean, Masqurain isn't even part water type and it has rain in it's name too! Unless that's from a species of bug its based on, but I don't think so.

Frostweaver
November 8th, 2003, 08:19 PM
Remoraid is unobtainable in Crystal. You must trade one from Gold or Silver to get it...

Surskit is a water strider. Masqurain is not really based on "rain" but "masqurade", meaning "to wear a costume" or "disguising costume." (this meaning applies to it by looking at the fake eyes on its wings). If its name means to pretend, then what it looks like now may not be its true appearance... (wonder why it doesn't have color change or transform...?) Plus Masqurain isn't a good water attack user anyway (or to be more precise, not good at anything...)

Dragon_Tamer
November 13th, 2003, 12:34 PM
I have never got Shroomish to Breloom.It goes from a little seed type thing into a mushroom thing.I believe that mushrooms dont sprout from seeds but spores

Frostweaver
November 13th, 2003, 04:37 PM
mushroom doesn't have seeds because it's not a plant. It's a fungi... they rely on spore.

If you do have a shroomish, don't evolve it until it learns spore. After that evolve shroomish immediately. Then you got the physical "plant" killer

jynx
November 14th, 2003, 10:50 AM
mushroom doesn't have seeds because it's not a plant. It's a fungi... they rely on spore.

If you do have a shroomish, don't evolve it until it learns spore. After that evolve shroomish immediately. Then you got the physical "plant" killer
But that is ALL~~~ the way to Level54!
Won't it effect the status?

Frostweaver
November 14th, 2003, 03:27 PM
it will not. Use this method (and this applies to ALL pokemon as well)

1) Pull out that pokemon that you want to train in the lowest lvl possible (do all breeding necessary)
2) Rare candy your way to lvl 100 without a single battle(choose when to evolve and what moves to keep). Now before you say this is stupid or cheap, read on first.
3) In Ruby/Sapphire, stats growth are calculated by EV. You get a hidden amount of EV for every opponent you battle. Every Pokemon gives a different amount of EV in different categories. For example, a Zigzagoon gives you EV +1 in speed, while a Spinda gives EV +1 in sp.att. 4 points of EV means +1 in stats for that category. However, you can only get up to 512 EV, meaning maximizing only 2 category out of HP, Attack, Defense, Sp.Attack, Sp.Def and Speed. So you must choose who to battle. Now that you're at lvl 100, even if you don't have any EV growth, you can still KO anyone. So choose which area of EV to improve on, and choose your opponents wisely. Train for hours until you get an effort ribbon (meaning that your EV has been maximized). Put it in the box like the classical GSC box trick to maximize stats. Voila...

jynx
November 15th, 2003, 09:47 AM
it will not. Use this method (and this applies to ALL pokemon as well)

1) Pull out that pokemon that you want to train in the lowest lvl possible (do all breeding necessary)
2) Rare candy your way to lvl 100 without a single battle(choose when to evolve and what moves to keep). Now before you say this is stupid or cheap, read on first.
3) In Ruby/Sapphire, stats growth are calculated by EV. You get a hidden amount of EV for every opponent you battle. Every Pokemon gives a different amount of EV in different categories. For example, a Zigzagoon gives you EV +1 in speed, while a Spinda gives EV +1 in sp.att. 4 points of EV means +1 in stats for that category. However, you can only get up to 512 EV, meaning maximizing only 2 category out of HP, Attack, Defense, Sp.Attack, Sp.Def and Speed. So you must choose who to battle. Now that you're at lvl 100, even if you don't have any EV growth, you can still KO anyone. So choose which area of EV to improve on, and choose your opponents wisely. Train for hours until you get an effort ribbon (meaning that your EV has been maximized). Put it in the box like the classical GSC box trick to maximize stats. Voila...
That's clever!
But where do you get all those rare candy?

Kairi
November 15th, 2003, 09:51 AM
You can have an army of Pokmon with Pickup, and they may find Rare Candies after battle.

jynx
November 15th, 2003, 10:41 AM
You can have an army of Pokmon with Pickup, and they may find Rare Candies after battle.
Oh I see!
That is a very good characteristic^^