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darkpokeball
February 13th, 2011, 11:23 AM
At first, I was not too fond of the names, and thought it was fake. When it started getting farther, Anime and this thread, I began to worry. It was real. Sure, most have gotten used to the names, but even if it's fine now that all of us are settled with it, how the heck is Pokemon going to name Generation 6 if they went as low to name Gen 5 Black and White?

*What do you think of the names?
*What are they going to title Gen 6?

And has anyone else noticed B & W is the only one that includes a "Black" skinned character whatsoever (Aloe.) Brock was tan, Iris is tan, etc.

Guy
February 13th, 2011, 11:45 AM
Far from it actually. Black and White are reboots of all the games before them. So, it only makes sense for them to go back to their old roots and title the games according to color like they first did with Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow. Even so, I believe a lot of fans anticipated a Black and White version many times before. As far as Generation VI goes, it all depends on what they decide to focus those games on. They can pick back up with the gems and stones, continue with colors, or try something new; you never can tell.

It's true, Black and White are the first to introduce Black characters such as Aloe. However, take into consideration that these games are not based upon any area in Japan, but New York. To find a Black person in Japan is unlikely compared to finding one in New York.

Chiar
February 13th, 2011, 11:48 AM
What? Black and White are great, simplistic names. I think they're much better than Diamond, Pearl and Platinum, actually...

Meduza
February 13th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Purrloin? What is "loin" even in there?

Liepard? Makes me think of Leotards.

Basically, these are the worst generation names yet.

ISA56 2.0
February 13th, 2011, 12:15 PM
I'm rather fond of the new names, actually. Black and White just feel.......right somehow. As for the 6th Gen games, let's leave that for later, shall we?:D

skyluigi2
February 13th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Don't worry. They'll think of something for Gen 6.

Kaori
February 13th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Just a quick notice for those who might get confused with the thread topic, this discussion won't be to discuss the English names in the games, but to give your opinion on the titles of Gen V itself; Black and White.

Raichu1988
February 13th, 2011, 12:25 PM
I actually don't mind the Black & White titles for these games. They seem simple, yes, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them. I don't think it means they're running out of ideas, I think they intended to name it Black & White and keep it simple since it's a reboot. As for Gen 6, I don't know how they'll title those games but that's okay. I'll worry about it then. ;D

Haowakeorden
February 13th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Sure, most have gotten used to the names, but even if it's fine now that all of us are settled with it, how the heck is Pokemon going to name Generation 6 if they went as low to name Gen 5 Black and White?
Just like all the previous games, there's a meaning behind why these games are called "Black and White". Read a little about the storyline, maybe take a look at the version differences, and you might understand why.

Kenshin5
February 13th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Purrloin? What is "loin" even in there?

Liepard? Makes me think of Leotards.

Basically, these are the worst generation names yet.
I wouldn't be too quick to judge. Most of the names have something allude to either its origin, habits, or personality. Purloin means too steal, and if you and and extra R it is Purrloin which they are probably in implying with the typing and moves like Snatch that it is a pokemon that steals objects.

I have personally never had problems with the names but the designs of the pokemon.

What do you think of the names?
Like I said earlier they is usually a rhyme to reason why the pokemon is named what it is. So I am not going to knock a poke because of its name but its overall appearance, abilities, moveset and so forth.

What are they going to title Gen 6?
Too far ahead when we are trying to focus on the now which is Black and White. But anyways the generic rock, stone, color.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 13th, 2011, 12:30 PM
I like the titles Black and White they are simple and I'm hoping the third version's title is as simple as those two to keep with the simple names of this gen :)
As for gen VI...well they still tons of Metals and Stones, trust me I know a lot of stones GF has yet to use...Amethyst,Garnet, Peridot, Zircon, Obsidian, and Aquamarine to name a few...

Kenshin5
February 13th, 2011, 12:36 PM
As for the game titles I love them. They got the Yin and Yang aspect with Reshiram and Zekrom I thought was brilliant imo. And Black and White indicate base colors, as if we are going back too the basics. Which is why people often say this is a reboot.

"When it started getting farther, Anime and this thread, I began to worry."
Just wondering exactly what you mean by this sentence?

solarowl
February 13th, 2011, 12:47 PM
Black and White... frankly, I was expecting these names for a long time. A simple way to get a name for a few games. I'm not disappointed, actually. Even though, the names are just the simple colors, I believe they could represent many things. For example, in this game it refers to Yin and Yang. It could be the struggle between evil and good, and many other things. I think the names partly make people (at least me) think about what those names could mean with many possibilities.

For Gen VI and other Gens, I want something other than crystals, gems, and colors. Sure, i's breaking their pattern. But that's what we need. Change.

darkpokeball
February 13th, 2011, 03:15 PM
As for the game titles I love them. They got the Yin and Yang aspect with Reshiram and Zekrom I thought was brilliant imo. And Black and White indicate base colors, as if we are going back too the basics. Which is why people often say this is a reboot.

"When it started getting farther, Anime and this thread, I began to worry."
Just wondering exactly what you mean by this sentence?
I began to worry that they were going through with B & W. At first, I hated those names. I'm used to them and don't mind them as much as I used to, but I do think that pokemon was desperate at this point.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 13th, 2011, 03:31 PM
I don't think they were desperate as they have dozens of names they could have picked from...but then Again DPP were the Ultimate hardness, Ultimate smoothness and Ultimate precious metal...so they had to go down from there...

Horizon
February 13th, 2011, 03:35 PM
It's not really downhill though, as a poster earlier on in the thread has said, they didn't name the versions Black and White for the sake of it. There is reasoning behind it.

~Wind~
February 13th, 2011, 03:37 PM
I think that Black and White indicate that they are going further than reboot, as they are shades, lower down than primary colours. Black absorbs all colours, White reflects them.

Forever
February 13th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Red, Blue and Yellow (or Green) were the first three/four games. All of them in generation one, all of them starting off Pokemon. After them, besides in remakes, no other colours for names have been used, until now. B/W is considered to be a restart, so it makes sense that they go back to their naming routes. Plus, Ying and Yang suits the games perfectly, so really it makes sense. I don't think the next generation will have names of colours anyway and instead follow the pattern of G/S/C, repeating the past all over again. Just watch!

PlatinumDude
February 13th, 2011, 04:54 PM
Black and White are actually GameFreak's way to let Pokemon go back to their original roots (naming games after colors). Like some people said earlier, there's a reason why they're called "Black and White."

Mato
February 13th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Black and White, to me, seem most tradition for a Pokemon game. Taking consideration in Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow, it puzzles me why it wasn't thought up sooner. Colors to... gems, then right back to colors again? What next? I think after Gen V, I won't want to see anymore Pokemon or regions being made.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 13th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Red, Blue and Yellow (or Green) were the first three/four games. All of them in generation one, all of them starting off Pokemon. After them, besides in remakes, no other colours for names have been used, until now. B/W is considered to be a restart, so it makes sense that they go back to their naming routes. Plus, Ying and Yang suits the games perfectly, so really it makes sense. I don't think the next generation will have names of colours anyway and instead follow the pattern of G/S/C, repeating the past all over again. Just watch!
I think so too ;)
Oh yeah some consider Gold and Silver colors too so maybe the games of next gen could be Colors/Metals too like Cobalt ;)...but then again all the games (except DP) can be considered colors just different shades...

King Gumball
February 13th, 2011, 10:02 PM
The theme to B/W is ying and yang isn't it? And the Ying and Yang are represented by Reshiram and Zekrom, and like we have seen before, the colour of the title is named after the mascot. Like Pearl for Palkia and Green for Venasaur and Sapphire for Kyogre wtc. So the theme of the name makes sense and the fact that the mascots are the colours of the title, black and white, makes sense also. I love the name!

Khrysta
February 13th, 2011, 10:25 PM
But Black and White aren't colors. They are the two ends of the color spectrum, but are not colors themselves. Black is the Absence of Color while White is the over abundance of all the color mixed.

(I know that is primarily used for light, but without light we wouldn't have color to begin with.)

Red and Green were the first colors released, later on Blue came into the picture. (odd relation seeing how Red, Green, and Blue are the three colors that our eyes pick up the easiest and use to merge into other colors {TV Screen Colors} while Yellow was an English replacement for the third for the first series, although technically the Fourth for Generation 1. Yellow, Red, and Blue are also Primaries.

Gen 2 is Precious Metal, but at the same time, Colors as well as Gold and Silver are colors. Crystal being a Gem stone.

Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald. Start of the new coding for Pokemon which caused a rift to form between the Generations 1 and 2 and all the future Generations to follow. Also Gem stones whose colors are Red, Blue, and Green (First Generation Irony?)

Diamond and Pearl are precious stones, while Platinum goes back into Metal. *reversal of Generation 2*

Now Black, absence of color and White, all colors combined. Though not technically colors themselves.

Really running out of names was never a concept as they basically recycled ideas since Gen 3. Black and White are a new step forward that broke away from the repeated cycle.


As for possible of Gen 6. We are still 5 years too early for that to even be considered. (Is guessing at ample time as since Gen 3, it took about a year or so for a third to appear and then two or so for the revamps, then another Year+ for a new generation to appear.)

I believe that Game Freak did state they were making an off brand for the Wii to compliment the new Black and White titles. Plus we still have side series to wait for such as a new Pokemon Mystery Dungeon or even Pokemon Ranger. Who knows we may even get a brand new side series altogether.

Petilil
February 13th, 2011, 10:57 PM
I thought the names Black and White were nice. I dunno, I just enjoy the two colors (I'm not calling them some scientific name, sorry).

As for the black characters, it's about bloody time they included them. But like Hiiro said, since Unova is based on New York and not a region in Japan, it's more plausible since there ain't gunna be a bunch of black people walkin' down the streets of Tokyo.

Rawrinism
February 13th, 2011, 11:13 PM
I find the titles [Black and White] fitting :D, but the annoying thing is, immature kids are gonna shout out 'RACIST' and random crap like that. :\

Petilil
February 13th, 2011, 11:16 PM
I find the titles [Black and White] fitting :D, but the annoying thing is, immature kids are gonna shout out 'RACIST' and random crap like that. :\

To be honest, I think that phase has diminished. When the names Black and White were first announced, that's essentially all people said. I haven't seen any crap about that in months. So I don't expect it to be too big of an issue anymore. But it's very immature, I agree.

Haza
February 14th, 2011, 12:05 AM
No, I like the names actually and I had predicted these titles actually for Gen V. For Gen VI I'm thinking of Jade & Amber...

vaporeon7
February 14th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Some Pokemon names like Sawk (Sock) annoy me.
I quite like Black and White though. It seems simple.
Next generation will be Amethyst and Garnet.

Pwnyta Jockey
February 14th, 2011, 01:17 AM
No.

There are worse names to choose. Like I had posted on GameFAQ's:

Pokemon Con Version & Pokemon Per Version & Pokemon Intro Version

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE
February 14th, 2011, 09:58 AM
I like the simplicity of Black and White, because it heightens the Yin and Yang theme they have going on :)

zakalak
February 14th, 2011, 02:47 PM
Black and White... frankly, I was expecting these names for a long time. A simple way to get a name for a few games.

This. I wouldn't be surprised if they named their ultra good reboot (Ex: Crystal, Emerald), Pokemon Gray. Frankly, I wouldn't be too mad.

It's better than Pokemon: Ancient Days. Frankly, it's simplicity is good. They also have other colors, Ex: Peach, Turquoise, Purple, Fuchsia, Etc...

Kaori
February 14th, 2011, 04:45 PM
I like the simplicity of Black and White, because it heightens the Yin and Yang theme they have going on :)

Agreed. Not only that but in the region, there is Black City and White Forest as a game exclusive that's in response to the names. A town/city hasn't been named after the titles of the games nor an exclusive before, so the simplicity of Black and White allows there to be such in the games, and I like that about it.

Sure they've gone back a route for the names, but it's not half bad really imo.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 14th, 2011, 04:53 PM
Agreed. Not only that but in the region, there is Black City and White Forest as a game exclusive that's in response to the names. A town/city hasn't been named after the titles of the games nor an exclusive before, so the simplicity of Black and White allows there to be such in the games, and I like that about it.

Sure they've gone back a route for the names, but it's not half bad really imo.
I don't think the names had anything to do with those places...GF could have made a Emerald Tower if they wanted but didn't...
Though they are simple and nice and go back to Gen I's roots similar to how Gen III went back by having stones that share the same colors with the games ex: Red (Ruby), Green (Emerald) and Blue (Sapphire) :) only BW introduced new Colors (well shades to be correct but some consider them colors...)

Zorua
February 14th, 2011, 06:52 PM
I really don't think anyone is running out of ideas per se. I mean, as plain-as-day as the names sound, they actually have a nice ring to them once you consider the elements in the games and the games themselves. Once you start making that connection with the game's content to it's title, you realize that it's title has a lot more meaning to it than just a mere color, y'know? n__n;

And I don't know exactly what Gen VI would be titled, it could go any way at this point. .__. I don't know if they're going to back to colors, or going to metals/minerals, or anything like that. At this point, absolutely nothing really comes to mind on what the next generation's title would be. D:

The Red Chain
February 15th, 2011, 08:12 AM
At first, I thought the same thing. I thought, "Wow, they are really out of ideas.". But, as time passed on I began to love the names. I mean, if you wanna say they ran out of ideas for names, we can go back to the Red/Green/Blue/Yellow era. Pretty much the same deal. The ideas for the colors came from the mascots mainly, just as it did with Black and White. The difference is that Black and White have the extra significance to Yin and Yang, while RGBY did not really have a relationship like that.

That alone gives them some creativity points in my eyes. :3

marxj
February 15th, 2011, 12:45 PM
I don't mind the names "Black & White", also having played through the games, I like some of the Pokemon better than some of those in Gen 3 and 4.

Another thing IMO, is that while the English names for the Pokemon are not the greatest, the Japanese names still have appeal :)

olih
February 15th, 2011, 03:57 PM
I love Black and White, but the names sound like Game Freak ran out of ideas. It's really hard to get used to them. Which makes me fear for the future (Gen 6)...

InfernoHo-Oh
February 15th, 2011, 03:59 PM
I actually really love the names. Black and White... yin and yang... I love yinyang, so Black and White are my fave Pokemon games~
Really awesome names.

I don't think they have run out of names. There are tons of colours and gems and other things they can name the versions after.