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Alternative
February 15th, 2011, 07:30 AM
As you either have or haven't played the game, you must have at least heard of some of the amazing things that they've put into the game, and then maybe some of the not so fantastic things they've put into the game. Your job here is that you're in charge of making the game better, but you only have three choices to make, and you have to make them. Simply put...

What would you add, edit and remove the the game: Pokémon Black/White?

Add: Secret Bases. They were amazing in 3rd generation, and somewhat enjoyable in D/P/Pt. I think with the enhanced Wifi capabilities they're using for these games that it would be a great addition for the wifi world, not to mention fun, with setting traps everywhere and whatnot. :D

Edit: This one I'm not too sure on, but maybe Tepig, or at least it's evolutions' typing. Sure I love Tepig and all, but for christ's sake (no offense to christians) it's another fire/fighting type Pokemon! I wouldn't care if it were a pure fire type, but not another Fire/Fighting type at the least.

Remove: Rotation battles. I see no point in them, and that they're only for Wifi? I mean what is a rotation battle? You rotate your Pokemon around so you know when to fight? I just don't see the point in such blasphemy and it's a dumb idea.



Discuss.

One more thing:
"Remember, the pros/cons of the games go in the pros and cons thread." - Forever

Chiar
February 15th, 2011, 07:38 AM
Add: VS Seeker. *cries* I loved it. Why have they removed it? I'll be OK even without level gain of trainers.
Edit: I don't know if it counts, but number of Ice-types. Is it hard to just add around 6-7 Pokemon in the game?
We only got Cubchoo family, Cryogonal, Vanillite family and Kyurem...
Remove: Pokemon Musicals. They're annoying and useless. *Misses Pokéathlon*

JP
February 15th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Add: Rematches of the gym leaders and random NPC trainers. Very disappointed that you can't do that. I understand that they would want to keep some of these features for a third game... but come on, with a generation that is all about originality, they could have added at least this to the games and thought up of more interesting and new features for the third game.

Edit: Not too sure about this one either. At first I would have agreed on the removal of Tepig's Fighting type, but I've grown quite use to it now and I can't say it bothers me too much. Maybe edit the other two starters so that they also have secondary typings? Kind of odd that they don't.

Remove: Nothing really. All the features that are in the game are either needed or interesting enough to keep. :P

Azure
February 15th, 2011, 10:32 AM
Add: VS Seeker! ~ Although, the Tabunne factor is good :)
Edit: Some Pokémon designs!
Remove: .... ..... Don't know!

Bluerang1
February 15th, 2011, 10:48 AM
Add: VS Seeker! I can't imagine life without you :(

Edit: Pokabu's evo's typing -__-

Remove: Nothing, nothing needs removal I think.

Khrysta
February 15th, 2011, 10:50 AM
Add: Nothing. Everything that was removed was done so for a reason. Most obvious one, not enough people liked it.

Edit: Nothing. There isn't anything wrong with anything in the game.

Remove: Nothing. Again. Nothing wrong with anything.

mzmingle
February 15th, 2011, 11:15 AM
Add: VS Seeker/Pokeradar
Edit: Zorua & Zoroark's sprites
Remove: Nothing.

metalflygon08
February 15th, 2011, 11:31 AM
As much hate as Emboar get's, he's the most useful starter with the widest movepool.

Snivy's line get's only Grass, Poison, and Normal attacks via level up, and only Normal and Grass do damage.
Oshawott only get's Normal, Bug, Water, Fighting attacks via level up.
Tepig only get's Normal, Fighting, Fire, Poison, Dark, and Rock via level up

Add-VS seeker
Edit-Animations for pokemon not using their HGSS sprites (the ones from gen 1-2)
Remove-Nothing

Esper
February 15th, 2011, 12:09 PM
I can't think of anything that really bothers me that I would want removed, but I wish these games could have included the pokemon following your character like in HG/SS. That was a big hit with people. Rematches with gym leaders is also an obvious feature the games could have had since they're sort of expected now and do add something more to the games.

Erufuun
February 15th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Add: POKEMON FOLLOWING YOU AGAIN. ;; What was cuter than that?! It was wonderful in HG/SS, I was so disappointed when they removed it. :(
Edit: Starter typings. May sound like a very old complaint, but still. Do not like the Fire/Fighting again, It should of been Oshawott's family with the extra fighting typing. And Snivy should have been given a secondary type, Dragon would have been awesome!
Remove: I agree, nothing is really that bad enough to remove. :3 Everything seems fine as it is~

metalflygon08
February 15th, 2011, 12:17 PM
I can't think of anything that really bothers me that I would want removed, but I wish these games could have included the pokemon following your character like in HG/SS. That was a big hit with people. Rematches with gym leaders is also an obvious feature the games could have had but they're sort of expected in the 3rd game now and do add something more to the games.


fixed, everygame set with rematches adds gym rematches to the 3rd game, it's not standard, only HGSS added them becuase there would be no 3rd game.

King Gumball
February 15th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Add- Gym rematches ;--; I have said why many times now... And I would have also liked a bit more surf!

Edit- Crimigans body. So. Out. Of. Proportion.

Remove- ...... Nothing I guess ^.^

bobandbill
February 15th, 2011, 03:08 PM
I'd add rematches with trainers via the Vs Seeker and gym leaders too personally for obvious reasons - it takes out some of the fun, having that gone imo. Even GSC/HGSS had a rematch system via the phone - why not B/W? On top of that I do miss the Pokemon Following You feature - I quite enjoyed that and I was a bit disappointed to see that left out.

Along with that - adding in more side stuff like the Safari Zone and the Game Corner, or something as cool as the Pokeathlon/contests even!

Editing... typing has already been mentioned so I won't beat that horse. I would edit the fact that the game played out pretty linearly though - it felt too much of a case of 'go to this town, beat that gym, go to the next town...' with little other choice besides exploring around or in which town you could take on. Also the way some battles could have been double battles but were instead single could have been changed - too often you'd encounter a moment in which two (or more) people take you on (particularly when Plasma were concerned)... and they take you on one at a time.

Removing? Musicals in favour of something better - it was really a pretty lame add-on. After the first time it doesn't offer much imho.

PlatinumDude
February 15th, 2011, 04:10 PM
Add: Pokeathlon and Vs. Seeker. I miss them already, and the latter is a good way to grind. The former is more fun.

Edit: The evolutionary levels of some Pokemon.

Remove: Pokemon Musicals. The Pokeathlon was so much better.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 15th, 2011, 04:19 PM
Add: Gym leader rematches, Luvdisc to actually have had an evolution...
Edit: the Sprites they can be better graphically
Remove:...nothing really...

metalflygon08
February 15th, 2011, 05:59 PM
Add: Gym leader rematches, Luvdisc to actually have had an evolution...
Edit: the Sprites they can be better graphically
Remove:...nothing really...


I don't think you can have your edit and animations, since the lack of major shading helps keep the animations from looking bad.

TehPsychicTypeMaster
February 15th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Add: Vs. Seeker. I missed it in HG/SS, and in B/W. It was so helpful in level griding.

Edit: Starter's secondary typings.

Remove: Rotational Battles. I just don't see the point of them.

Jak
February 15th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Add: Follow me feature<3
Edit: Rematch system...right now there is none. :(
Remove: Musicals. D;

Pink Typholsion
February 15th, 2011, 06:39 PM
Add: more dive spots, I loved diving in 3rd Gen!

Edit: The Starters, Serpior should be Grass/Psychic, Samurott should've been Water/Fighting, Emboar should've been Fire/Dark (plus a redesign), and make the desert more challenging

Remove: Genosect, I hate it! >:O

Rawrinism
February 15th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Judging by the fact I've seen most spoilers, I would say to add in an option to purchase new clothing for your character. Such as department stores that sells shoes, pants, hats, etc. Plus ways to edit your facial features; such as eyes, mouth, etc. I think that they should edit is to tweak the gym leader's number of Pokemon. I mean 3 Pokemon for an eighth gym leader?! I would ask them to remove nothing. :p

インフェルノの津波
February 15th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Add: Everything you guys said and Seals.

Edit: Entire Plot, make it even darker.

Remove: Bianca and make it Bel :)

King Gumball
February 15th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Add: Follow me feature<3
Edit: Rematch system...right now there is none. :(
Remove: Musicals. D;

Oh yeah, there are no re-matches )));;;; That wasn't very smart, not adding any rematches. The E4 just isn't enough, I dont want to battle them over, and over, and over.

So yeah I would want a re match system added in. And not phone calls, that was just annoying. VS seeker would be good.

Also the follow me feature would be really cool added. I want to see the gen 5 pokes walk around ;__;

Maybe the musicals could be edited in some way to make them more enjoyable? I haven't played yet so I wouldn't know what to add... Maybe battles in the musical, like the battles in the Poke contests in the Anime?

SinisterEternity
February 15th, 2011, 10:33 PM
Add : Travelling to other regions by plane. We saw planes so why wouldn't we be able to fly a plane and go to Sinnoh, for example ? < Minor add because we could totally fly using a flying pokémon. xD Else, I'd like the VS Seeker and Gym Leader rematch to be BACK. So you could choose whether you want to battle Poddo, Dento or Koon then.

Edit : The supposed 3v3 battles. ._. And make it real 3v3 fights instead of 1v1 of 3 rotating battles...And the TM prices. XD

Remove : I dunno. xD

PokéSwimmer
February 16th, 2011, 06:46 PM
I haven't played the game yet, but, from the information that I know:

Add: Gym Leader Rematches, VS Seeker, 3rd Gen style Secret Bases, more TMs, Pokémon Following you, the Pokéwalker (or a similar device), and a "Time Capsule" feature (like in Gen II) which allows you to trade with Gen IV.

Edit: The English names, they were kind of terrible this time around. Ability to use fishing rods pre-E4.

Remove: I'm not going to pass judgement until I actually play the game.

skyluigi2
February 17th, 2011, 01:55 PM
Add: SECRET BASES. NOW.
Edit: Some Pokemon designs/names.
Remove: Musicals.

Forever
March 15th, 2011, 02:02 AM
Add: Follow me feature.
Edit: Crimgan - give it a better design.
Remove: The sports dome. I don't know why, I just don't like either of the two domes cause they don't really add anything to the games imo.

Roughsponge
March 15th, 2011, 03:37 AM
Add: As many have said, the VS Seeker.

Edit: Nothing much really, maybe Tepig's secondary typing (it would be amazing if the fighting wasn't attached). And maybe less pixelated backsprites...

Remove: Musicals, but I'm not ever going to do them so it doesn't really bother me though.

Skapocalypse
March 15th, 2011, 04:17 AM
Add: Vs. Seeker

Edit: Heatmor's stats and movepool. He's a really cool pokemon, but he is out classed by almost every other fire type. D;

Remove: Musicals.... And Sturdy on Boldore! (Curse you Boldore!)

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
March 15th, 2011, 06:20 AM
Add: Vs. Seeker, Gym Leader rematches, secret bases, and trainer dress-ups. Those alone would address many of my concerns about the games.
Edit: Go back to the old way of earning Exp. Replace the old, tired Bicycle with something fresh like a Buick Lacrosse or Regal
Remove: Can't think of anything right now.

Sammuthegreat
March 15th, 2011, 09:06 AM
Add: Gym leader rematches, VS-Seeker, Pokeathlon, Follow Me feature, Battle Frontier, Game Corner (but NOT Voltorb Switch)

Edit: A bunch of typings (Beartic --> Ice/Fighting; the starter typings as mentioned above), a bunch of stats (Vanilluxe has a BST of 535. It is an ICE CREAM. Seriously), Musicals (make them worth doing, somehow - as it is they're the world's biggest waste of time), Poke Transfer (make it quicker and simpler), make it possible to trade before beating 1st Gym, make the level jump between beating E4 and post-game a bit less extreme (maybe have some intermediary trainers to cover the gap)

Remove: not much really. No point removing anything if it could just be improved instead.

I'm sure there's more... but there we go.

Eclaircise
March 15th, 2011, 09:21 AM
Add: Ability to go to all the previous gyms and obtain all the badges, and one of each starter like in SS/HG...you got one of three few starters. and obviously vs seeker and rematch of trainers and gym leaders. Follow feature[Turn it on and off]. Battle frontier..harder E4.

Edit: Designs/Names/Typings

Remove: Poke Musicals..annoying

Eurydice
March 15th, 2011, 09:27 AM
Add: Pokemon contests, secret bases, vs seeker
edit: tepig's evolution forms and type
remove: triple/rotation battles, pokemon musicals

solarowl
March 15th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Add: Vs. Seeker/Gym leader rematches, and Follow me feature.
Edit: Pokemon starter final evo typing.
Remove: Rotation battles. Triples were enough.

ggctuk
March 15th, 2011, 12:07 PM
ADD: Vs. Seeker or rematch call via Xtransciever, the option to allow the first Pokemon in your party to walk with you (IE it could be on the options for that Pokemon, STATS, SWITCH, ITEM, WALK, CANCEL), Old and Good rods, Pokewalker compatibility, secret bases, Game Corner (an arcade for international releases).

EDIT: Some events should automatically be in-game, IE once you get the National Pokedex, Shiny Suicune, Entei and Raikou are roaming, catching them allows you to encounter Zoroark.

REMOVE: Musicals

Maybe if they ever make the third version they should take these into consideration.

Phazon
March 15th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Add: VS Seeker. I know it's been said loads of times, but there's no good reason why they didn't put that in BW.

Edit: Gym Leaders needs to be harder. I consider Lenora the hardest, but she's still a pushover. About half of them just completely suck.

Remove: Musicals. Never gunna use them.

Lancelot-sama!
March 15th, 2011, 01:52 PM
Add: I would have liked a few more diving spots. It kind made me a bit sad that you could basically only dive for the Abyssal ruins, and I feel like the dive ball included in the game is pointless seeing as I haven't/can't really run into underwater wild pokemon. I would also like gym leader re-matches.
Edit:Pokemon musicals. I mean besides figuring out the right props & if you don't have a prop that can appeal the audience..... you sort of just sit there. The music is nice & it's cute but they should change it up to be as fun as the pokeathlon.
Remove:HM01. Trees to cut. I rage when I see trees that need to be cut. At least the rocks that are moved by strength STAY moved in their little holes, but noooooooo.

fire woven
March 15th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Add: Even more plot, that extends to after the Pokemon league, and does not require gym badges to continue, and I would like to see a dual region again, something I loved about HG/SS.

Edit: The really lazy names, I mean Boldore, really? I thought Timburr was clever, and Girdurr is nto too bad, but there are alot of lazy names.

Remove: like nothing, not too many major problems

Secret bases sort of exist in the dream world