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Cartz Ketchum
March 30th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Just wanted to say that I dont understand why you and the gym leader can use potions in gym battles, berrys i understand the pokemon hold them. Watching pokemon the potion works by spraying it on the pokemon, so what the game is saying is that the gym leader sprays his pokemon, nah thats wrong. Non of the gym battles on the series have it, and its rather annoying.

Any clarification why you can use potions in gym matches even thought they're supposed to be pokemon vs pokemon not who has the most potions.

Timbjerr
March 30th, 2011, 06:55 PM
What do you mean none of the gym leaders in the series used potions? Every gym leader in the series has had a stock of potions that they used just to annoy you. XD

momoa
March 30th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Making sure the gym leader's pokemon's health never gets in the red before you finish it off is a good way to prevent the leader from using his/her potions.

Cartz Ketchum
March 30th, 2011, 07:16 PM
in the series i ment the cartoon ;) and yeah I guess but it can be annoying yaknow I just dont think its fair no one should be allowed to use them makes it seem more real.

.EJ
March 30th, 2011, 07:23 PM
The series is based off the game.....

therefore the games are more credible when compared to the anime. Potion use is normal.

Alternative
March 30th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Just so you know, the games are complete different to the anime, and should never be the same, or try to be the same, especially in terms of Potions. Also iirc, Erica from the first series offers Ash a Paralysis Heal to use on his Bulbasaur, so they can keep battling.

The Nightmare
March 30th, 2011, 07:38 PM
In anime they don't use potions because gym leaders don't really care about healing their pokemon in the game sometimes they do but I don't really know why.

flamegod7
March 30th, 2011, 09:45 PM
Yes, it does seem a bit weird to "spray" your Pokémon with a Potion to recover their HP. Assuming that HP is the Pokémon's stamina, it seems a little more logical for a pokemon to drink something like Fresh Water to recover its health instead of being sprayed by a magical, HP recovering canister.

Alternative
March 30th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Yes, it does seem a bit weird to "spray" your Pokémon with a Potion to recover their HP. Assuming that HP is the Pokémon's stamina, it seems a little more logical for a pokemon to drink something like Fresh Water to recover its health instead of being sprayed by a magical, HP recovering canister.
Buy fresh water instead of a Super Potion then. :)
The whole point of spraying the Pokemon with a potion canister, is that your Pokemon are most likely going to suffer from bruises and burns when battling, so they'll take some time to recover, like everything does. The potion is like some sort of remedy which you place on these scars so that the healing process is much faster, and is fit to battle again.

Kenshin5
March 30th, 2011, 09:53 PM
3 Gyms into best Wishes Anime not a single gym leader has used a "Spray" during the middle of the battle. So potions are not used during gym matches in Anime. Potions in anime I usually used on wild pokemon, or if the team is no where near a pokemon center.

Forever
March 30th, 2011, 10:05 PM
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at - whether you're discussing if it's morally wrong to use potions on Pokemon or whether you think they should use it in the anime. Either way, this applies to more than just B/W anyway!

I'll send this off to Pokemon General for now (since it covers games/anime at the moment) - if it ends up being based around just the games, then Doronjo can take care of it. :D

GreenBeece
March 30th, 2011, 11:16 PM
I think that Gym Leaders have same rights when using potions/such because it's kinda like their job to test the players skills.

PlatinumDude
March 31st, 2011, 02:06 AM
The Gym Leaders choose not to use Potions in battle so that it wouldn't be fair to anyone who doesn't have healing items.

Blue
March 31st, 2011, 02:15 AM
It makes the game more tactical and difficult, otherwise it would be much easier to take out Gym Leaders.

ShinyMeowth
March 31st, 2011, 02:49 AM
It is a cheap and frustrating trick. Once I beat a Pokemon, it is beaten. Restoring it just exposes their lack of self-confidence. It is sad that such idiots got to be gym leaders.

Oryx
March 31st, 2011, 02:58 AM
It is a cheap and frustrating trick. Once I beat a Pokemon, it is beaten. Restoring it just exposes their lack of self-confidence. It is sad that such idiots got to be gym leaders.

I saw a catchphrase on PC once, it went "Never criticize efficiency". If it helps them try to win the battle, it doesn't matter how "cheap" it is, you lost. Also, at least they have a limited amount to use, while you have the ability to endlessly stock up as long as you have money.

Cartz Ketchum
March 31st, 2011, 03:08 AM
I just find it very annoying were, yeah people will say that the anime is tottally different to the game, well I dissagree the leaders are the same so why should they use different tactics on me then what they do in the cartoon.

To be perfectly honest I have almost thrown my DS across the room the amount of times I have worked a gym leaders pokemon down to one more attack to beat it and BOOM full hp again.

I just think a gym battle is an offical pokemon battle like I said before (i think) not who has the best potions.

The 100 Mega Shock
March 31st, 2011, 05:51 AM
Video game mechanics don't translate well into a cartoon, and the inverse also applies. Trying to convey someone using a healing item in-battle in a cartoon would look dumb so they don't do it.

Gym Leader battles are supposed to be far more challenging than the average trainer battle and the (more frequent) use of in-battle items also reflects this. There's only so many ways you can make an AI opponent more challenging when they have to stick to a type-themed team, and even in-battle potions are down via an extremely predictable AI condition.

Timbjerr
March 31st, 2011, 05:52 AM
In recent game, the gym leaders are usually limited to two uses of whatever potency potion they use, so it's not that big a deal. Just yesterday in my White version, Iris wasted both of hers on her Fraxure that I had toxic'd and was stalling out. XD