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Thomas
April 12th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Similar to the Donation and Rules shortcut on the main community forum...I was thinking there could be a similar shortcut link to Daily Chit-Chat thread under the Other Chat forum.

Patchisou Yutohru
April 12th, 2011, 12:30 PM
I'd assume if we did that for one forum, we'd have to do that for all of them. Like having the claims threads in Pokémon General, Japanese Entertainment and Culture & Media displayed like that too, for example. I was actually thinking about that a few days ago.

Thomas
April 12th, 2011, 12:34 PM
Well, not necessarily...I just think that DCC in OC is arguably the most visited/posted out of those types of threads. I mean, it's posted in so frequently that we have to change threads every few months or so.

Lily
April 12th, 2011, 02:14 PM
Why don't you just bookmark it? =O

Thomas
April 12th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Well, that is an option, but I just mean, it is one of those threads that has survived years and years here at PC, and its basically a PokeCommunity institution. Something that should be given a place on the front page of the site.

Zet
April 12th, 2011, 02:34 PM
Just use greasemonkey to make it appear forever.

Went
April 13th, 2011, 03:25 AM
The only problem I see is that it would have to be updated whenever we changed the thread, but otherwise I don't see a problem... other than it would be the only thread like that in the whole forum, other than official community info, and it would definitely look strange.

Cherrim
April 13th, 2011, 10:06 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with it, to be honest. :s It's definitely one of the biggest, most successful threads we have so linking to it wouldn't be that strange.

Thomas
April 13th, 2011, 10:08 AM
The only problem I see is that it would have to be updated whenever we changed the thread, but otherwise I don't see a problem... other than it would be the only thread like that in the whole forum, other than official community info, and it would definitely look strange.That would be an issue but we don't change the thread every week or anything like that...maybe once ever like 4 or 5 months? So doing that would be a big issue.

marz
April 13th, 2011, 11:30 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with it, to be honest. :s It's definitely one of the biggest, most successful threads we have so linking to it wouldn't be that strange.

The Black/White forum is booming with activity daily, why don't we direct link to that forum too? A Quick Trade Thread shortcut could be really useful.

If we're going off the notion of 'what part of the forum is more active?' I wouldn't rank the DCC too far up on that list.

Here's some food for thought

What we should do is have the userbar customizable in the control panel. We can customize our direct links, maybe up to 5 or 10, and we can link to anywhere on the site we want. A thread, a forum, a blog, a profile, anywhere.

Vader
April 13th, 2011, 12:37 PM
I'd personally have no problem with it, It might boost activity some more. And, the DCC is recycled once every three months, so changing it ( the shortcut) 4 times in an entire year isn't that bad.

Patchisou Yutohru
April 13th, 2011, 12:43 PM
I'd argue there are more active threads in Other Trivia if activity alone is a reason for slapping a link in the forum description.

I've always considered the DCC to be one of the main threads in the individual forum, yes, but if we're going to put it as a quick link in the board description, I'd much rather do that for each forum than just do that for one for the reason of it being one of the main threads for the forum. Something unique. I'm sure each forum has their own thread equivalent of importance to the DCC. But having quick links in the board description for all the forums seems very unappealing to me, aesthetically, and something I'd reserve for threads like rules and other more important things.

I'd prefer an option as Alex suggested.

Thomas
April 13th, 2011, 12:47 PM
The Black/White forum is booming with activity daily, why don't we direct link to that forum too? A Quick Trade Thread shortcut could be really useful.

If we're going off the notion of 'what part of the forum is more active?' I wouldn't rank the DCC too far up on that list.

Here's some food for thought

What we should do is have the userbar customizable in the control panel. We can customize our direct links, maybe up to 5 or 10, and we can link to anywhere on the site we want. A thread, a forum, a blog, a profile, anywhere.I mostly suggested DCC because it's been a mainstay at PC since the old days. It's been around forever (which Black and White hasn't) and a having it here on the front page would not only make it easy access for everyone, but the thread should be memorialized on the front page.

I'd personally have no problem with it, It might boost activity some more. And, the DCC is recycled once every three months, so changing it ( the shortcut) 4 times in an entire year isn't that bad. That would definitely help with activity...and changing it four times a year isn't bad at all. That is barely any maintenance to it.

EDIT:

@Patchisou Yutohru (http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=86968): I agree that links in EVERY forum would be ridiculously unappealing. But the reason I suggested DCC, like I said before, is because of its activeness AND longevity to the site...no other thread besides various calming/pairing threads cant have that claim.

donavannj
April 13th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I would not like to see this just because it's only one extra click to go from the forum index to Other Chat and then into the DCC. That and several other forum sections would start clamoring for their own shortcuts and the index would eventually to the point where the index is just a cluttered mess of links, if the staff gave into every demand for a shortcut.

More than anything, I'd think Other Chat could use a shortcut in it's description to Other Voting Polls because every once in a while there seems to be a rash of people who confuse the two.

Link
April 13th, 2011, 01:07 PM
Mhmm, I'd say it's probably best left alone, that's what sticky threads are for. But I wouldn't object as there's pro's to this too, but staff would need to be subjective in what kind of threads get this treatment, possibly just for those kind of threads that have been around forever and have been so active such as the DCC. If it does go through, I wouldn't like to see it done for ever section, the index could do without being too crowded, in my opinion.

Thomas
April 13th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Also, I really think that this could really help new users as well that haven't explored the forums as much. Getting them involved in the DCC thread could be a great way to involve them in the community a lot quicker.

Kenshin5
April 13th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I don't see how a Shortcut to DCC would help new users much. It would seem more sensible to focus on the here and now with Black and White which new users primarily go to same with Wifi Trading, and do short cuts for Quick Questions and Quick Trade Thread which could possibly reduce some of the topics the mods have to lock in those sections. I don't see how it will help activity that much either, since most people that post in DCC have settled in, which new members mostly stay or contribute to discussion in pokemon related forums then gradually expand their horizons.

Cherrim
April 13th, 2011, 08:31 PM
Well, if we did it for the DCC, we would probably just implement it in most of the forums that had a really prominent thread like that. So for sure, I want to get the Quick Trade thread front and centre, and maybe the Simple Questions threads and whatnot. We won't just ignore other forums! :P

Zorua
April 14th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Also, I really think that this could really help new users as well that haven't explored the forums as much. Getting them involved in the DCC thread could be a great way to involve them in the community a lot quicker.

Assuming new users would actually want to post in the DCC in the first place. You're essentially pushing things into their faces that they wouldn't really want in their faces, and this could turn out to have a negative affect afterwards.While I agree that this idea has both it's pros and cons, I fear that the cons would eventually outnumber the pros. But hear me out here! I'm not being all "this idea sux ololol" I'm just saying that anything could really happen here, and I'm just having personal doubts about the idea as a whole.

But if you manage to make this idea work out in the end, then good job to you, sir! I just don't personally see it having any effect on the new users whatsoever. While it "may" increase activity in the DCC to some extent(may or may not actually, it's a chance you really have to take), I feel that in the end, it's something quite redundant and well...yeah, the point that I'm trying to establish here is that...in the end, it would have no significant effect on the new users whatsoever, as I'm pretty sure that if they really wanted to post in the DCC, they would have already.

So really, it kinda depends on how it's pulled off. It'd be pretty biased to leave it just for the DCC if threads like B/W and whatnot are really left out. I agree with Erica on the notion that every forum should have it's fair share of important threads displayed as shortcouts, but here's the issue that some of you probably haven't considered as of yet, and that I just really thought of:

Forum activity.

Okay, let me explain myself a bit here(I dunno whether I'm really embarrassing myself or not, but it's worth some two cents): Are you guys(the h-staff) going to implement important threads from every forum? I fear that, if that's going to be done, not only would it be really unnecessarily cluttered in a sense, but redundant as well, as there are some forums that really lack the activity needed to have some shortcuts displayed on the front page(meaning that nobody ever visits them, and having a shortcut really wouldn't change much).

So unless I'm misreading a post here and there, those are really my concerns. I'm pretty much on the fence when it comes to this idea, though. D:

Melody
April 14th, 2011, 01:44 AM
...I'm agreeing with the naysayers sadly.

I briefly thought of making a Greasemonkey script to implement such a thing, but Platypus doesn't support Firefox 4, nor does Greasefire or Firebug. That and I'd have to make sure it worked on all themes, ect, ect, ect...

For Firefox users: Tab utilities is a useful addon.

bobandbill
April 14th, 2011, 02:49 AM
TBH such an add-on would only be distracting (even if it was fro more than just the DC, or maybe arguably more so if so?) and unecessary as well (there's always thred subscriptions/bookmarks for browsers for threads people already like already, so...) But that's just me.

Thomas
April 20th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Well, I don't know about anyone else who was for this idea, but I'm still interested in making this happen. (didn't want this to get lost in the back pages of the forum).

Zorua
April 20th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Well, I don't know about anyone else who was for this idea, but I'm still interested in making this happen. (didn't want this to get lost in the back pages of the forum).

Well, think about it: What would be the actual benefits of having such a shortcut? I'm not bashing your idea or anything. What I'm doing is inquiring your intentions on this. I understand that you want to increase activity in the DCC, but that would mean that many other threads would want to have their shortcuts, too(especially certain BW threads). Until there is a certain method that would make it organized and whatnot, I just think it would be a complete mess of a bunch of unorganized, popular threads, one after another.

If you're interested in increasing activity for the DCC, why not link it in your signature(if you haven't already, I haven't paid attention yet)? It might sound a bit silly, but it's honestly the most convenient way to "increase" activity for a select thread or forum(you have moderators linking to their own forums in their signatures, I don't see how this suggestion would be any different than that).

If you can at least list some pros other than the "new users" argument(which I've argued against and said my points against already) and the "activity" part, then maybe it would be considered, but I just personally think it's a waste. .__.;

(I realize that I've said some things that have been repeated in some other posts, but it seems as if you skipped over them entirely)...

Patchisou Yutohru
April 20th, 2011, 03:10 PM
I'm against the idea of adding any quick links to any of the forums. It's either all or nothing for me, and putting them on all of them is a lot of work that I know I personally wouldn't want to do. Stickies serve the purpose of ease of navigation, reliability, importance, and at times activity. Throw in the fact that I personally think that more focus should be on intellectual* debates and discussions as opposed to a free for all thread.

*I'm not saying that the DCC is unintelligent.