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Esper
April 20th, 2011, 11:10 PM
Yeah, it seems like a good time to start a new thread. I'm sort of out of my rut now and have been working on some new things that I haven't shown around yet. Feedback on anything here, even the old stuff, would be great. Anything you want to say or ask, really, would be welcome. Except requests. Use vms or something else if you're going to do that. Oh, and no, you can't use anything here. Sorry. :(


[css-div="font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; border-bottom: 1px dotted #555555; width: 80%; color: black;"]new and new-ish stuff:[/css-div]

This is my new pixel passion and the bulk of what I've been working on lately: VS sprites! They're all mostly completely new or revamped from earlier attempts. I'm working up the nerve to try some with more depth and perspective.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54704

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54705

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54706


Next are a bunch of mismatched things. Mostly just playing around and trying new things out. The Surskit retype is scratched. The bunny-looking thing is a fusion. The cake is a lie.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54711http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54712

The green bricks were made with the help of a tutorial I found somewhere on pixiv, btw.

I've got a couple of sprites in the Communitydex, but these are the ones I like the most. The ocelot was specified to be a steel-type, but I wasn't thinking about that when I made it, hence the recolor.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54713

And now rounding it out with some work showing the official pokes.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=52421 http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54714 http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54717 http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54715 http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=50772


[css-div="font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; border-bottom: 1px dotted #555555; width: 80%; color: black;"]some of my older work:[/css-div]

I wanted to show off some samples of old work I've done. Most of this I haven't changed since I made it however long ago, except the pink bug which I've cleaned up some more.

Gen III sized sprites. The backsprites are based from other people's designs.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54708http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54709

And some Gen IV sized ones. First three were made by request from someone's drawings.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54707http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54710

And that's it for now.

Peeky Chew
April 21st, 2011, 03:06 AM
I think I've seen most of that before, apart from the VS. Sprites, and it's all still good. The VS. Sprites are really good though, almost better than the Pokémon sprites at the bottom. Most of them look straight out of the games. There are, however, a couple problems with some. They all have black outlines, except for the fourth one. The other problem is the second to last, where the glove looks a little 2d.

The 100 Mega Shock
April 21st, 2011, 03:29 AM
Black outlines is HG/SS VS shot style, bro.

pako
April 21st, 2011, 04:14 AM
WOW!
Amazing VS sprites :)

Impo
April 21st, 2011, 04:21 AM
...I'm in love with all your pixels, Scarf :D !

Superjub
April 21st, 2011, 06:28 AM
The guy with the glove looks like he is going to give me a prostate exam. D:
In all seriousness, they look great Scarf. And I notice some of the older work is from Sienna. :) The VS Sprites look nice, although the guy with the white stripe through his hair's mouth looks a bit of. I don't know, the expression is a bit wierd. Apart from that, they look great. And I'm only pointing out small things because your work is so great. :P

NurseBarbra
April 21st, 2011, 07:14 AM
These are very nice scarf.... not that I would expect anyless...
Also, am I the only one who thinks the guy with the glove in the VS sprites looks.... wrong?... (In a medical profession way, not a sprite way.)

Chesu
April 21st, 2011, 08:48 AM
Hey, leave the poor gloved guy alone. Prostate health is very important.

Wow, Scarf, everything is looking great! The eye colors on some of the vs sprites are a bit too light/bright though, it makes them look... Well, spooky. That aside, it's incredible how good you've gotten; your design sense and ability to transfer it to pixels is just uncanny. I remember the original version on that sea cucumber, from around when you first joined PC... Has it really been two years? Wow.

Rossay
April 21st, 2011, 08:54 AM
As always, AMAZING. That's all I can say. The VS Sprites are simply beautiful. Well done Scarf :D

Superjub
April 21st, 2011, 09:51 AM
Hey, leave the poor gloved guy alone. Prostate health is very important.

Wow, Scarf, everything is looking great! The eye colors on some of the vs sprites are a bit too light/bright though, it makes them look... Well, spooky. That aside, it's incredible how good you've gotten; your design sense and ability to transfer it to pixels is just uncanny. I remember the original version on that sea cucumber, from around when you first joined PC... Has it really been two years? Wow.

I know, it just reminds me of that episode from Family Guy~ :P Honestly, I believe he is very well designed. :D

Adding onto my earlier post, you are very talented at VS Sprited. The anatomy, the design... everything, I'm kinda jealous. XD But seriously, they are great. :D

Blizzard-Prince
April 21st, 2011, 04:46 PM
Nice sprites, though I know saying those two words doesn't actually do anything to improve you, so...

CRITIQUE TIME~ <3

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54704
- The second sprite's hand closest to us is at an odd angle. Maybe try to rotate it a bit so that it's more similar to the further hand?

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54704
- The second Bianca's left arm (which means its to our right side) is a bit thinner compared to the other.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54713
- Is that a spark-plug tail? If it is, try lengthening the steel ends just a tiny bit. Lovin' your scratches~

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54711
- The cake is indeed a lie. D:

Esper
April 22nd, 2011, 03:36 PM
Thanks for the responses, everyone.

I think I've seen most of that before, apart from the VS. Sprites, and it's all still good. The VS. Sprites are really good though, almost better than the Pokémon sprites at the bottom. Most of them look straight out of the games. There are, however, a couple problems with some. They all have black outlines, except for the fourth one. The other problem is the second to last, where the glove looks a little 2d.
The fourth one I was experimenting with and had meant to use as a replacement for the more typically colored one I'd been using as an avatar for a while, but I never got around to it. D: I know it's not typical, but I wanted to try something different to make it "softer" looking by using my darkest color as something less than black. No good?

I don't see the 2D-ness, but I'll see if I can make it better anyway.

The guy with the glove looks like he is going to give me a prostate exam. D:
In all seriousness, they look great Scarf. And I notice some of the older work is from Sienna. :) The VS Sprites look nice, although the guy with the white stripe through his hair's mouth looks a bit of. I don't know, the expression is a bit wierd. Apart from that, they look great. And I'm only pointing out small things because your work is so great. :P
Cough, please. I'd intended for that sprite to be some kind of detective who collects clues and things, but it was plain looking so the hand needed something else and if you watch cop shows they use gloves, too, so... yeah. I know how it looks.

And that mouth, you're right. I wanted to pass it off as just an expression, but, well, I have to work hard to make sprites of people that don't have weird proportions and so on.

Hey, leave the poor gloved guy alone. Prostate health is very important.

Wow, Scarf, everything is looking great! The eye colors on some of the vs sprites are a bit too light/bright though, it makes them look... Well, spooky. That aside, it's incredible how good you've gotten; your design sense and ability to transfer it to pixels is just uncanny. I remember the original version on that sea cucumber, from around when you first joined PC... Has it really been two years? Wow.
Not quite two years yet. So which ones look spooky? I wanted the one on the bottom left to look like someone who'd stay up all night watching television. If you mean the bottom right one then that's because I never changed the light blue from the paint default color. You caught me. I'm a bit inconsistent on how I'm doing these VS sprites since I'm still looking for some consistent way of making them.

Nice sprites, though I know saying those two words doesn't actually do anything to improve you, so...

CRITIQUE TIME~ <3

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54704
- The second sprite's hand closest to us is at an odd angle. Maybe try to rotate it a bit so that it's more similar to the further hand?

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54704
- The second Bianca's left arm (which means its to our right side) is a bit thinner compared to the other.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54713
- Is that a spark-plug tail? If it is, try lengthening the steel ends just a tiny bit. Lovin' your scratches~

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54711
- The cake is indeed a lie. D:
Yes, the angle is a little off. I... can't quite get it to look right. How should I rotate it exactly?

For the arm: I didn't notice, but now I can't not see it. Will have to fix.

The tail is supposed to be... I think it was a water cannon. Something like that. I don't even know what a spark plug looks like. xD


Thanks again for the comments.

Esper
May 10th, 2011, 11:01 AM
I worked a little on fixing that one mug shot.

http://oi54.tinypic.com/33y2b0m.jpg

And I'm working on some new things. This is a WIP.

http://i56.tinypic.com/91bhv6.png

And these were some quick sprites someone asked me to make. Designs aren't mind.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2u8dq1i.pnghttp://i53.tinypic.com/6oima1.pnghttp://i53.tinypic.com/15nltu0.pnghttp://i56.tinypic.com/4v5kq9.png

Esper
May 19th, 2011, 09:22 PM
More stuff.

Made some changes to one of the VS sprites.

http://i51.tinypic.com/zus55y.png

A background. I'm not sure if it's got enough detail or color. I don't normally work on anything this size so I'm generally note sure what would look best.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2eflqhh.jpg

Rossay
May 20th, 2011, 04:34 AM
More stuff.

Made some changes to one of the VS sprites.

http://i51.tinypic.com/zus55y.png

A background. I'm not sure if it's got enough detail or color. I don't normally work on anything this size so I'm generally note sure what would look best.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2eflqhh.jpg

Wowzers. That battle background looks amazing! Seriously.

GFA
May 20th, 2011, 11:04 AM
Loving the battle BG. For the VS sprite though ... His eyes is supposed to be closed, yes? I think it would look better if you lowered it on the face.

Esper
May 20th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Loving the battle BG. For the VS sprite though ... His eyes is supposed to be closed, yes? I think it would look better if you lowered it on the face.
Well, it's supposed to be a smarmy wink, but I'll try it.

http://i51.tinypic.com/zus55y.pnghttp://i51.tinypic.com/20atdae.png

A little better, maybe?

Here's another change.

http://i54.tinypic.com/204jrd.png

GFA
May 20th, 2011, 11:52 AM
I think that looks. But if you moved his eye, his eyebrow should be lowered a bit too. As for the new sprite, I like that you're going for an interesting pose, but her arm is bending far too early, it's looks like it's almost coming out of her shoulder.

Esper
May 20th, 2011, 12:55 PM
I think that looks. But if you moved his eye, his eyebrow should be lowered a bit too. As for the new sprite, I like that you're going for an interesting pose, but her arm is bending far too early, it's looks like it's almost coming out of her shoulder.
I was trying for the arm being bent more at the wrist rather than just straight out, but I see what you're saying. It doesn't look like that. I'll have to change. I just don't know how to get the effect I'm looking for.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2yobonr.png

This is more of the position I want, but something is still off about everything.

GFA
May 20th, 2011, 08:09 PM
The angle is certainly better. What are your size restrictions? Maybe you could move it a little farther from her body?

Rossay
May 21st, 2011, 12:32 AM
I was trying for the arm being bent more at the wrist rather than just straight out, but I see what you're saying. It doesn't look like that. I'll have to change. I just don't know how to get the effect I'm looking for.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2yobonr.png

This is more of the position I want, but something is still off about everything.

I think that it's the position of the palm that looks really unnatural. Just try standing like that, it's quite difficult to get your palm to to do that comfortably. It should probably be more horizontal.

Freak A
May 24th, 2011, 04:03 PM
okay not gonna comment on the mugshots cause well i dont really get the 5th gen mugshot style but all the other stuff seems pretty good specially loving the cake thingy it actually seems delicious or something yeah and that line is just beautiful i guess u have alot of potential and your practically very awesome. so umm keep spriting i liked it so much i guess i ended up writing a whole report.

Esper
May 24th, 2011, 08:33 PM
I guess I can live with being just awesome and not quite very awesome.

I was trying to fix the anatomy on that previous sprite, but, ugh, hard. I gave up for the moment to work on other things, that is, more VS sprites.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2ijqo04.png http://i51.tinypic.com/2ltr5a9.png http://i54.tinypic.com/2ypkzmo.png

Anatomy is still difficult, but I don't see anything terribly wrong with these in that respect.

I also have this background. WIP. Not sure what else to do with it.

http://i53.tinypic.com/166m5gg.png

Lornami
May 25th, 2011, 11:17 AM
Careful on your perspective. (You do know, liner perspective, correct?) The right sidewalk area seems to be in a different plane position than the left.
It would be best if you picked one horizon/eye line and altered the angles accordingly.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/Rachae_Bossier_Art/scarfperspective.png

Esper
May 25th, 2011, 03:49 PM
I'm amazed you could see that. Is it that noticeable?

I'm vaguely aware of the idea, but obviously not enough to put it into practice. Thanks for pointing it out.

Lornami
May 25th, 2011, 05:14 PM
I'm amazed you could see that. Is it that noticeable?

I'm vaguely aware of the idea, but obviously not enough to put it into practice. Thanks for pointing it out.

Naw, it's not terribly noticeable I don't think, it's just art college foundations being smooshed in my head.

You might want to read up on it. It's really useful in conveying space, it just takes some practice.

ADD: Just to try and illustrate the importance of perspective I have an overlay or your original on the bottom and another overlay with all angles meeting on the left or right vanishing point on the horizon line on the top.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/Rachae_Bossier_Art/scarfoverlaypng.png

I know it only looks very slight to most people, but do you see how the path closest to us (bottom right) opens up more and appears closer, while the path farthest from us (upper left) shortens more and appears farther? This really pushes the illusion of depth, and helps us read the space better.

Peeky Chew
May 31st, 2011, 02:22 AM
I noticed it, but I don't know if people who don't do pixel art would.

Oops, didn't notice Lornami's second post xD

Lornami
June 1st, 2011, 08:43 AM
I noticed it, but I don't know if people who don't do pixel art would.


Perceptive problems can be seen by any person, because perspective is how we see the world. While Scarf's is "close enough" not to find any problems so easily, even a normal person can feel that the space is not quite right because they know inherently that there are contradictions. If they can see the difference in that image up there, their brain already knows the problems even if they were not consciously aware of them while viewing the original image. It's our brains having trouble reading the space, it's just general art education teaches us to identify these problems and how to fix them.

tnguye3
June 1st, 2011, 10:07 AM
I really love your sprites, especially the VS sprites and your parrotfish fakemon.
The lineart and shading is incredible, and the palettes compliment each other really well.
I can't see anything wrong.
However the VS sprite in the middle, red hair guy:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=4339&pictureid=54705
his arm doing the thumbs up - his forearm is too short compared to his other arm and to your other vs sprites.

Esper
June 1st, 2011, 02:36 PM
his arm doing the thumbs up - his forearm is too short compared to his other arm and to your other vs sprites.
Good eye. I'll admit again that anatomy is hard for me so I have trouble seeing things like that (and a harder time trying to fix them).

Anyway, I hope this looks more properly perspective'd.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2e2iipw.png

Logiedan
June 1st, 2011, 04:54 PM
The shadow from the building seems like it isn't properly perspective'd.

zein
July 1st, 2011, 07:33 AM
Hey! you are really talented in this, i see you on Deviantart too, all your works are nice! keep doing it.

Plumpyfoof
July 2nd, 2011, 02:20 AM
They're really impressive, well done.

Somni
July 10th, 2011, 08:02 PM
nice! you have some nice designs there. I especially like your sense of color, very bright and jubilant.

MonsterMMORPG
July 17th, 2011, 01:03 PM
I think amazing sprites are there :) keep doing

Pr4da
July 29th, 2011, 10:18 AM
Your sprites are very beautiful =D .

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
July 29th, 2011, 06:26 PM
your sprites are simply amazing, the coloring and everything. Great job! Im loving the Surskit one.

:t354:TG