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Pika'chu500
June 2nd, 2011, 07:40 PM
Well hello!
I made this thread to show you all my dex. It is not finish and so I will update it whenever I make a new sprite. I have made all the sprites except for Lizleaf, which was done by my good friend, Lilfurman,
I can also take sprite requests. If I do accept your request, please be patient.
Alanto Region Dex
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/AlantoNewdex.png
Alanto Region Dex
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/AlantoNewdex.png

Chesu
June 2nd, 2011, 09:55 PM
Your sprites aren't bad overall, but there are a few problem areas. Mostly, it's the faces; Pokemon generally have easy-to-recognize faces that people can instantly identify.

Shrice and Shrat could both use a bit of reworking. Shrat's body has great linework, but the same can't be said about Shrice. It also lacks an adequate palette; the background hind leg is the same shade as the fore one, which makes it visually confusing unless you look closely. Shrat is fine, but with the purple head/thorax, black hind, and pink tail, it brings Grumpig to mind. I like the wiry whiskers, they're very rat-like, but you shouldn't try to make your designs too similar to normal animals.

The shape of Pupky's head, combined with the design of its eyes, make it look a bit too close to Yooterii. I'm sure it's unintentional, but I can't help but see it. Neither it nor its evolution are very interesting to look at. That's not a disparagement, I'm just trying to help you improve them. They could use some more interesting detail... coloration, markings, maybe a wing-shaped design on the side. Just something to break up the monotony of white on pale, unsaturated brown. Nidition has a problem similar to Pupky, in that it reminds me of Froslass with a dash of Latias. Again, it's not your fault, but you should do your best to avoid designs similar to existing Pokemon.

The biggest faceless offenders are Algle and Alque, and they seem to be in a different, more simple style... arguably too simple. Are they old, compared to the other sprites? In any case, they could use some shading and palette revisions. I really like Alame's design though; if you made the body and smoke(?) look more like they belong together and added a bit more interesting detail (anything that will make it look less like a big red expance), you'd really have something.

While I'm mostly known as a spriter, my biggest concern with your designs is actually the names. Shrice, yeah, I guess, but Shrat sounds harsh and somewhat naughty. I imagine Liquail is a contraction of Light and Quail, but you have to admit that you can't help but think liquid when you see liq. Alternatives might be Elequail, Sparquail, Dynamiquail, or Jaquail.

I'm just going to openly be mean here: I don't like the Maggaby line names. Maggaby is a maggot, sure, but it's too close to Magby. Teefly is better, and doesn't really need to be changed, but I think using "teen" is kind of... Well, lame. Especially when you take into consideration that it's preceded by the word "baby" and succeeded by the word "adult". Adulfly isn't a very pleasant name any way you look at it. Now, I know I'm coming down hard with these three, but it's only because of how great the designs are! They should have names that are befitting of the sprites.

I know that this is a pixel art board, and I shouldn't be critiquing the names so much, but... Pupky? I can only assume Puppy+Sky, and it's cute-sounding, but most people won't see the "sky" in there. Pupsky would be better, but it's far too obvious. For that matter, the word puppy is overused in fakemon. Of course, as I said it IS a cute name, and there's nothing strictly wrong with it. Its evolution, however, confuses me. Banal? It's nice that it's not just AnimalNameTypeSynonym (I think?), but why Banal?

Overall, I like your sprites, and think you're off to a great start (even if my criticism seemed a little harsh). You should probably ditch your current numbering system, though; if you feel the need to fill all the spots, a sense of "I can't do this" will set in pretty quickly. It may be best to just make the creatures that you feel like making, and worry about the Pokedex later.

Also, isn't the Anoleaf line from Pokemon Tanzanite? Were you a spriter for them?

Pika'chu500
June 4th, 2011, 07:41 PM
Your sprites aren't bad overall, but there are a few problem areas. Mostly, it's the faces; Pokemon generally have easy-to-recognize faces that people can instantly identify.
I know which Pokemon you mean. I'll explain those later.

Shrice and Shrat could both use a bit of reworking. Shrat's body has great linework, but the same can't be said about Shrice. It also lacks an adequate palette; the background hind leg is the same shade as the fore one, which makes it visually confusing unless you look closely. Shrat is fine, but with the purple head/thorax, black hind, and pink tail, it brings Grumpig to mind. I like the wiry whiskers, they're very rat-like, but you shouldn't try to make your designs too similar to normal animals.
Well, the thing is... I like to re-do my sprites when I'm finish with the whole dex. I never liked how Shrice turned out and some other Fakemon and they will get re-done until I'm content. I'm a fan of the first Gen so I like to keep my designs simple and back to their roots.

The shape of Pupky's head, combined with the design of its eyes, make it look a bit too close to Yooterii. I'm sure it's unintentional, but I can't help but see it. Neither it nor its evolution are very interesting to look at. That's not a disparagement, I'm just trying to help you improve them. They could use some more interesting detail... coloration, markings, maybe a wing-shaped design on the side. Just something to break up the monotony of white on pale, unsaturated brown. Nidition has a problem similar to Pupky, in that it reminds me of Froslass with a dash of Latias. Again, it's not your fault, but you should do your best to avoid designs similar to existing Pokemon.
Pupky is intentional. I love Lillipup and so, I wanted a Pokemon that looks like him. Nidition however was made way before Froslass came to public view. Oh and the Pupky line is not finish yet; It still has a super awesome evolution coming.

The biggest faceless offenders are Algle and Alque, and they seem to be in a different, more simple style... arguably too simple. Are they old, compared to the other sprites? In any case, they could use some shading and palette revisions. I really like Alame's design though; if you made the body and smoke(?) look more like they belong together and added a bit more interesting detail (anything that will make it look less like a big red expance), you'd really have something.
You are correct, my 3 aliens are pretty old sprites. They have very wierd eyes since their aliens and I wanted a feel like they didn't belong.

While I'm mostly known as a spriter, my biggest concern with your designs is actually the names. Shrice, yeah, I guess, but Shrat sounds harsh and somewhat naughty. I imagine Liquail is a contraction of Light and Quail, but you have to admit that you can't help but think liquid when you see liq. Alternatives might be Elequail, Sparquail, Dynamiquail, or Jaquail.
I suck with names, however I was actually going for a nasty name in Shrat... naughty is close :D. I like Jaquail!

I'm just going to openly be mean here: I don't like the Maggaby line names. Maggaby is a maggot, sure, but it's too close to Magby. Teefly is better, and doesn't really need to be changed, but I think using "teen" is kind of... Well, lame. Especially when you take into consideration that it's preceded by the word "baby" and succeeded by the word "adult". Adulfly isn't a very pleasant name any way you look at it. Now, I know I'm coming down hard with these three, but it's only because of how great the designs are! They should have names that are befitting of the sprites.
I'll think of some better names...

I know that this is a pixel art board, and I shouldn't be critiquing the names so much, but... Pupky? I can only assume Puppy+Sky, and it's cute-sounding, but most people won't see the "sky" in there. Pupsky would be better, but it's far too obvious. For that matter, the word puppy is overused in fakemon. Of course, as I said it IS a cute name, and there's nothing strictly wrong with it. Its evolution, however, confuses me. Banal? It's nice that it's not just AnimalNameTypeSynonym (I think?), but why Banal?
Barial is the name(Bark+Aerial). Sorry its hard to see the names.

Overall, I like your sprites, and think you're off to a great start (even if my criticism seemed a little harsh). You should probably ditch your current numbering system, though; if you feel the need to fill all the spots, a sense of "I can't do this" will set in pretty quickly. It may be best to just make the creatures that you feel like making, and worry about the Pokedex later.
I already have all the fakemons drawn and in order and in several sheets of paper. I just need to sprite them.

Also, isn't the Anoleaf line from Pokemon Tanzanite? Were you a spriter for them?
I thought no one remembered my old game. I was the founder of the game.


Comments in bold and thank you very much for taking your time to help me. I belive you and me will be great friends.
I also updated the dex with Airanine!

Humm96
June 5th, 2011, 05:25 AM
These are amasing! you are a skilled spriter indeed :) but on Alge the leaves on its head look a bit iffy, might want to fix them :)

Cyndaquil2607
June 5th, 2011, 05:31 AM
I agree with humm, you are very talented, but, the leaves on Agle's head might need more attention, and wasn'y linzleaf from pokémon tanzanite?

edit: yes he is, srry its just now that i read your reply to Chesu

Hooh
June 8th, 2011, 02:24 PM
NO WAI

You made and electric/flying quail named Shoquail....


I did too.

Cyber Gorilla
June 9th, 2011, 01:17 AM
nice work with your fakemons, although some of the sprites dont seem to match up with the same style as your other fakes, for instance zaquail & jaquail look far better then shoquail i would probably revamp shoquail, the same goes for shirice & teefly.

Pika'chu500
June 10th, 2011, 08:42 AM
NO WAI

You made and electric/flying quail named Shoquail....


I did too.
Well, my electric quail is not part flying.

nice work with your fakemons, although some of the sprites dont seem to match up with the same style as your other fakes, for instance zaquail & jaquail look far better then shoquail i would probably revamp shoquail, the same goes for shirice & teefly.

I will revamp most of my fakemon in due time.

Thank you everyone for the comments. They keep me going!
I have added 3 new fakemons: Ruwu, Sabble, and Salabble.

Pink Typholsion
June 12th, 2011, 07:28 PM
It's funny cause this whole line was stolen from an old project (Pokemon Tanzanite)...

http://i.imgur.com/gafzZ.png

Lizleaf = Anoleaf (http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/lilfur_man/GrassStarter.png)
Anoleaf = Arboliz (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/arboliz2.jpg)
Arboliz = Tokaero (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/18938198.jpg)

Link to the Pokedex is here (http://pokemon-tanzanite.webs.com/pokedex.htm).

countryemo
June 12th, 2011, 07:34 PM
It's funny cause this whole line was stolen from an old project (Pokemon Tanzanite)...

http://i.imgur.com/gafzZ.png

Lizleaf = Anoleaf (http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/lilfur_man/GrassStarter.png)
Anoleaf = Arboliz (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/arboliz2.jpg)
Arboliz = Tokaero (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/18938198.jpg)

Link to the Pokedex is here (http://pokemon-tanzanite.webs.com/pokedex.htm).

Few post up:
Commenter: Also, isn't the Anoleaf line from Pokemon Tanzanite? Were you a spriter for them?
Original Spriter: I thought no one remembered my old game. I was the founder of the game.
Shoquil looks..off

Chesu
June 12th, 2011, 08:09 PM
Actually, looking a little deeper into it, it seems that while Pika'chu500 WAS involved in Pokemon Tanzanite, (s)he didn't design those Pokemon or create the sprites of them. Unless I'm mistaken?

I think the problem with Shoquail is that the wings are a single small lightning bolt. Maybe they would look better if it was several lightning bolts stacked, or a big one that branches, or something. The toes and eyes are a little weird too, but the foot design seems intentional based on Zaquail, and I kind of like the eyes, they're unique.

Exile
June 12th, 2011, 08:42 PM
You're quite the pixel artist, I especially like the Lizleaf Line, it shows a ton of improvement. Shoquail looks nice too, but the legs that it's standing on seem a bit, awkwardly small? Not sure how to put it, but I'm sure you could make better ones. Good luck in the completion of your dex.

Pika'chu500
June 13th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Actually, looking a little deeper into it, it seems that while Pika'chu500 WAS involved in Pokemon Tanzanite, (s)he didn't design those Pokemon or create the sprites of them. Unless I'm mistaken?

I think the problem with Shoquail is that the wings are a single small lightning bolt. Maybe they would look better if it was several lightning bolts stacked, or a big one that branches, or something. The toes and eyes are a little weird too, but the foot design seems intentional based on Zaquail, and I kind of like the eyes, they're unique.
I did not design the Lizleaf line, missingno and lilfurman did; You can see their names in the credits section. I did sprite Anoleaf and Arboliz but not Lizleaf. Lizleaf was sprited by Lilfurman. I'm gonna re-design Shoquail a bit with these in mind.

You're quite the pixel artist, I especially like the Lizleaf Line, it shows a ton of improvement. Shoquail looks nice too, but the legs that it's standing on seem a bit, awkwardly small? Not sure how to put it, but I'm sure you could make better ones. Good luck in the completion of your dex.
Thank you, I will also try to change the legs while re-designing Shoquail.


It's funny cause this whole line was stolen from an old project (Pokemon Tanzanite)...

http://i.imgur.com/gafzZ.png

Lizleaf = Anoleaf (http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/lilfur_man/GrassStarter.png)
Anoleaf = Arboliz (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/arboliz2.jpg)
Arboliz = Tokaero (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg109/pikachu500/18938198.jpg)

Link to the Pokedex is here (http://pokemon-tanzanite.webs.com/pokedex.htm).
I explained they are indeed from there and that they are not stolen. I sprited Anoleaf and Arboliz and told my old team mates I'm using them in my dex. Lizleaf is the only sprite I did not make, It was made by Lilfurman.

Btw I updated the dex with 4 new Fakemons.

pankakes123
June 13th, 2011, 02:30 PM
The electric kangaroo is boss!

Pika'chu500
June 15th, 2011, 08:23 PM
Indeed, Kangtric is awesome!
I updated the dex with 5 new Fakemons.
Mungle sprite was done by Kami-Sama-Sensei
Foreskey sprite was done by HellopeopleoftheUS

Logiedan
June 16th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Anoleaf's left arm looks a little off to me. It might be because of the straight lines you have used for it's body, making it look flat when the lines should curve(?) But regardless, the whole line is a major improvement.

XxxGoblinKingxxX
July 3rd, 2011, 05:09 PM
love these! i cant wait to see the starters!

Humm96
July 4th, 2011, 03:34 AM
Hmm, Phain? it looks different to the one drawn for Pokemon tanzanite, and you've changed the name from Torchain :( http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4262/gh3se8.jpg

That was my faveroute one!

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
July 4th, 2011, 03:39 PM
I love how you do your fake dex (by putting the symbols and stuff) but I dont want to sound like a broken record with the things you can do better. But I do love how you did your coloring and shading on your fakemon


:t354:TG

PokeDarby
July 8th, 2011, 03:21 AM
They look good except for algle, that ones a bit plain..

Somni
July 10th, 2011, 08:00 PM
Adulfly and the Lizleaf families are cool looking! I think you need to work on your anti-aliasing though.

Kubone
July 13th, 2011, 11:57 AM
I really like arboliz, you're really talented with fakemon. Keep doing what you do!

MonsterMMORPG
July 17th, 2011, 12:57 PM
I think those are pretty good sprites. Keep doing more :)

legendarypokemon
August 2nd, 2011, 07:59 AM
These are pretty good. I am good at fuzes and recolors but suck at scratch

Pika'chu500
September 3rd, 2011, 08:22 AM
Well, I'm back at spriting again. Here are the revamps/redesign of the Alien Trio.
http://i54.tinypic.com/15yzmo2.png
Alame, Alque, Algle

Pika'chu500
September 16th, 2011, 09:28 PM
I have updated the first post with new sprites and dex format.

Lord Varion
October 5th, 2011, 06:40 AM
These are reallu good!
Don't give up on this PokéDex ;3

PokeHumanManectric
October 5th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Is it just me, or does the alien trio have the same shape as the Unova starters?

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
October 10th, 2011, 09:26 PM
For the green Alien (possibly a Grass type), the legs could be done a bit better so it doesn't look like leg sticks because in reality it doesn't look like those legs can suit the body. I like the first one.


:t354:TG

Truality
October 11th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Even though these sprites are great and your design concepts are fresh, I get the feeling I'm seeing parts of original pokemon in them, leading me to think these aren't scratch at all.

For example, #040 has a body very similar to stunfisk, pretty sure I've seen #001's face somewhere else before, and generally eyes and facial traits of most of your fakes remind me of canon pokemon. No offense or anything, since you didn't say they're scratched in the first place. Chesu's first reply also confirmed my suspicions, where you said you'd explain but you never did.

Skizzieren
October 11th, 2011, 02:18 PM
These sprites are great for the most part, but some of them don't look like they were made by the same person because they're not as good, in my opinion. For example, #62-64 are really bland and have weird palettes compared to most of your other great sprites. Anyway, keep up the good work!