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Diamond1304
June 7th, 2011, 01:53 AM
So some people have been saying either Lady Gaga or Britney Spears will take over Madonna as the current Queen of Pop in modern-day media. Who do you think should deserve or might (as in, have a high chance) of becoming the new Queen of Pop?

I'm guessing maybe Britney Spears as she's quite alike to Madonna. Also, I don't really like Lady Gaga that much. :>

Post away!~

Sodom
June 7th, 2011, 06:00 AM
Lady Gaga, definitely. Despite the intense amount of controversy she creates, she has a following so overwhelmingly large that it makes Britney fans look like the Mickey Mouse Club. Besides, she's Lady Freakin' Gaga.

Britney doesn't really do much these days anyway, her songs don't generate much talk and most of us still have trouble getting the image out of our minds of her bald and beating up a car.

Esper
June 7th, 2011, 08:23 AM
Lady Gaga certainly has a Sarah Palin-esque quality about her, that is, she attracts attention for everything she does even if it's not really important, newsworthy, or interesting to most people. She has the most media attention. That makes her the the top pop star at the moment. Because what else can you objectively base it on?

Galukxy
June 7th, 2011, 08:29 AM
Lady Gaga. She has that kind of Madonna feel about her, especially in her song "Born this way", It reminded me of Madonna. I also find Gaga to be creative and very unique with how she expresses herself, so I think she deserves to be be the "Modern Queen of Pop" more than Britney Spears does.

Oryx
June 7th, 2011, 08:47 AM
I would say Britney Spears (don't kill me Gaga fans).

Lady Gaga's been popular for 3 years. Britney's been around over a decade, and there's still no one who doesn't know her name. Her latest album still had songs reaching number 1 on the charts. Part of being a queen is that you have to have lasting value, songs that are wildly popular year after year. One of the big reasons Madonna is so huge was that she shocked people and yet made great music for over 25 years. When you're in your 20s, it's easy to be popular (relatively). Not so easy in your 30s or 40s.

But then again, what do I know, I already dislike Lady Gaga for multiple reasons. xD;

Firework.
June 7th, 2011, 11:02 AM
I'd say Britney since she's been around longer, but Gaga can sing, writes her own music, and is just a walking piece of art.

Numbers
June 7th, 2011, 12:15 PM
I don't really care for either of them. (Although I did secretly have a listen to Lady Gaga's new album, it did make me feel a bit gay though) But I would have to say Lady Gaga. Everything the woman does creates attention. All her songs have millions of views on Youtube, a lot of the songs that were released as singles have HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of views on Youtube.
This woman could make a one song album of her farting, and guaranteed thousands of people would still buy it.
It's just insane the amount of popularity this woman has, especially for a woman who said early in her career that she didn't really want fame or attention, she was just in it for the music.

batmon
June 7th, 2011, 01:50 PM
I don't really care for either of them. (Although I did secretly have a listen to Lady Gaga's new album, it did make me feel a bit gay though) But I would have to say Lady Gaga. Everything the woman does creates attention. All her songs have millions of views on Youtube, a lot of the songs that were released as singles have HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of views on Youtube.
This woman could make a one song album of her farting, and guaranteed thousands of people would still buy it.
It's just insane the amount of popularity this woman has, especially for a woman who said early in her career that she didn't really want fame or attention, she was just in it for the music.
She sure did a 360 to that attitude by starting to wear meat dresses

Novalis
June 8th, 2011, 01:15 PM
I can see either one being the Modern Queen. The fanbase that they have managed to get is huge, and only growing.

Gold warehouse
June 8th, 2011, 01:27 PM
Beyonce

Nobody can ever top what Madonna did. Everything the pop stars are doing today are just doing what Madonna inspired them to do.

I think we're a long way off from having someone that deserves that title, but Gaga's closer to it than Britney. Anyway, people these days just use the term to refer to their favourite pop star, rather than someone who has clearly done something to deserve such a title; hence why people are saying Gaga doesn't deserve it simply because they don't like her.

♠Dawn Rayne♠
June 8th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Britney is forever and always the queen in my book. Femme Fatale is great! Brit is gonna keep making and selling tons of albums for many ages to come

Sodom
June 8th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Part of being a queen is that you have to have lasting value, songs that are wildly popular year after year.

I don't have a crystal ball, but I'm fairly sure Bad Romance will be around until the end of time lol, and this is just the beginning of her career.

She sure did a 360 to that attitude by starting to wear meat dresses

One meat dress. She wore one meat dress, and all of a sudden she's that lady who wears meat dresses :P


I truly believe Gaga will be around for quite a while. I'm sure Madonna had her detractors in her time, saying that she would never manage to top her previous album, however she has always managed to. I think people are starting to grow so accustomed to Gaga's over-the-top displays that they are beginning to write her off as one giant publicity stunt, but I don't think underestimating anyone who is willing to go as far as she goes is a smart idea.

Diamond1304
June 9th, 2011, 12:11 AM
I truly believe Gaga will be around for quite a while. I'm sure Madonna had her detractors in her time, saying that she would never manage to top her previous album, however she has always managed to. I think people are starting to grow so accustomed to Gaga's over-the-top displays that they are beginning to write her off as one giant publicity stunt, but I don't think underestimating anyone who is willing to go as far as she goes is a smart idea.

Well, I'm not really accustomed to her beginning to act totally of-the-hook, especially from the music videos of Judas and Born This Way. I mean there's a difference between outstanding and just plain freaky. She's like scaring kids out there with her ever-growing creepy designs. I'm not hating on her, I used to like her music. Her old ones like Poker Face, Paparazzi and Love Game but since the time of Telephone with an explicit video of her you-know-what, it just disgusted me to think why and how she just....changed into something very unexpected and uncalled for overnight... I mean I just wish for her to return back to being the Lady gaga I once knew...not someone from Gotham Asylum.

The reason why I'm thinking Britney will be crowned the next one, once Madonna decides to step out of the music industry and most likely spend time with her family, is because Britney Spears have been longer than Gaga and there was no one like her since 1998, and from then on, several people have been copying her formula.

And then we had that big hoohah between Christina Aguilera and Lady Gaga, so that one actually confuzzled me...and I am still confuzzled till today. x_x Also, let us open this discussion, how about Kesha, Avril Lavigne, Pink, Mariah Carey and Katy Perry? I'm sure there'll be some fans of those around here. I think I can safely say that Kesha is the queen of auto-tuned pop. XD

Sodom
June 9th, 2011, 12:52 AM
She's like scaring kids out there with her ever-growing creepy designs.

Ugh who cares, she's not a children's performer. Not everything has to be child-friendly lol. If kids are getting freaked out, parents can stop them watching her :P

Also, let us open this discussion, how about Kesha, Avril Lavigne, Pink, Mariah Carey and Katy Perry? I'm sure there'll be some fans of those around here. I think I can safely say that Kesha is the queen of auto-tuned pop. XD

I think Kesha is too trashy and Avril Lavigne is already trying too hard to remain relevant, and noone really thinks that much about her anymore. Mariah Carey was never that great or popular, was she? I mean, she's always been there, but never enough to be in my line of sight - but I can only speak for me.

Though I think Pink and Katy Perry are in with a fair shot.

Oryx
June 9th, 2011, 09:30 AM
Mariah Carey was never that great or popular, was she? I mean, she's always been there, but never enough to be in my line of sight - but I can only speak for me.

Um. She's one of the world's best selling artists. The second highest selling woman artist of all time, behind Madonna, and just above Celine Dion, and the world's best selling artist of the 90s. She's sold 200 million records while Lady Gaga has sold 15. Mariah Carey has been popular over 20 years now. She's won 17 World Music Awards, and I'm fairly certain Lady Gaga hasn't won any, although she does match her in terms of Grammy Awards.

Mariah Carey isn't a "omg shock you look I'm in the spotlight look at me look at me" kind of artist. If that's the kind of artists you listen to, then you haven't heard much of her music because she just makes music. Her demographic is above the people obsessed with Lady Gaga, to an older audience who isn't looking for shock value in their music. You don't hear about her because she's not out there shaving her head, wearing ridiculous outfits for attention, etc. Even her sequel Christmas album, the kind of thing very little people care about, was in the top 5 on the charts when it was released.

Mariah Carey has more of a running at the Queen of Pop than Katy Perry and Pink combined. They're both just blips on the radar compared to her.

Esper
June 9th, 2011, 10:03 AM
Mariah Carey has more of a running at the Queen of Pop than Katy Perry and Pink combined. They're both just blips on the radar compared to her.
I assumed that the title of Queen of Pop was implicitly for artists who were blips because pop is the genre that's always changing.

But I agree with your assessment of Mariah Carey. She's not popular with the Gaga crowd, but she probably has more fans out there even if many of them are in their 30s, 40s and so on.

Oryx
June 9th, 2011, 10:17 AM
I assumed that the title of Queen of Pop was implicitly for artists who were blips because pop is the genre that's always changing.


I see it more as an artist that evolves with the times, that's what sets the Queen apart from other pop stars. She's popular when her music comes out, and popular years from now, and her new music changes with modern tastes in pop.

Diamond1304
June 9th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Ugh who cares, she's not a children's performer. Not everything has to be child-friendly lol. If kids are getting freaked out, parents can stop them watching her :P

Well, you've no idea how large the range of Monsters there are. Parents stop them, then her fanbase goes down. And you know parents that are real concerned, will tell other parents and soon the whole neighbourhood avoids Gaga music.



Um. She's one of the world's best selling artists. The second highest selling woman artist of all time, behind Madonna, and just above Celine Dion, and the world's best selling artist of the 90s. She's sold 200 million records while Lady Gaga has sold 15. Mariah Carey has been popular over 20 years now. She's won 17 World Music Awards, and I'm fairly certain Lady Gaga hasn't won any, although she does match her in terms of Grammy Awards.

Mariah Carey isn't a "omg shock you look I'm in the spotlight look at me look at me" kind of artist. If that's the kind of artists you listen to, then you haven't heard much of her music because she just makes music. Her demographic is above the people obsessed with Lady Gaga, to an older audience who isn't looking for shock value in their music. You don't hear about her because she's not out there shaving her head, wearing ridiculous outfits for attention, etc. Even her sequel Christmas album, the kind of thing very little people care about, was in the top 5 on the charts when it was released.

Mariah Carey has more of a running at the Queen of Pop than Katy Perry and Pink combined. They're both just blips on the radar compared to her.

This, I like! /is a MC fanatic

I dislike how people says her songs are shallow. How dare they, I'll skewer them! XD

Also, according to Wikipedia (which isn't trustworthy), Lady Gaga wrote her piano ballad at the age of 13. But that doesn't mean anything when she doesn't use that talent in her music. All her songs are created by electronic music and I have yet to hear anything traditional from the instruments in them. Also, it is said that she was inspired by earlier pop artists i.e. Madonna, Whitney Houston AND Britney Spears. So, they say Gaga will be become queen, but IMO, a queen inspired by someone else, surely that someone should be queen. I mean, that's just common sense, right?

I assumed that the title of Queen of Pop was implicitly for artists who were blips because pop is the genre that's always changing.

Agreed, with Toujours. But pop rarely stands far away from its original.

Cooker
June 9th, 2011, 07:06 PM
To me, Gaga is the Queen of Pop. Her songs have vastly differing yet always empowering meanings other than the extremely overkilled love and dancing songs that are too frequent today, thanks to artists like Britney Spears. She uses multiple instruments and musical techniques though rarely sinking to autotune. The passion that she laces into her performances gets me every time. I honestly can't compare her to Madonna as Madonna was way before my time and I've yet to familiarize myself with her, but as for the current Queen of Pop, Gaga's got all the ingredients.

All her songs are created by electronic music and I have yet to hear anything traditional from the instruments in them.

Have you ever heard Speechless, Living on the Radio or You and I? Acoustic Poker Face or Paparazzi? Born This Way Acapella? She can play almost any of her songs acoustically at just a piano. Hit up Youtube if you'd like to be amazed.

LittleHope
June 9th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Lady Gaga shall always sit on the throne of fame! Her voice makes me go Gaga! She will one day take over the world and sit next to the spirit of Micheal Jackson.

Diamond1304
June 9th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Have you ever heard Speechless, Living on the Radio or You and I? Acoustic Poker Face or Paparazzi? Born This Way Acapella? She can play almost any of her songs acoustically at just a piano. Hit up Youtube if you'd like to be amazed.

I'm just focusing on the originals, not the whatever versions she can come up with, since obviously people would rather (pay and) listen to the original versions first. What I meant was, even though she can play them on piano, she doesn't always do so, which is why I say she shouldn't get in with all those weird electronic music and just do everything (maybe not everything, but just don't let it go to waste, ya?) with piano.

"a marriage of electronic music with major [...] metal or rock 'n' roll, pop, anthemic style melodies with really sledge-hammering dance beats"- On the album, Born This Way.

Cooker
June 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM
I'm just focusing on the originals, not the whatever versions she can come up with, since obviously people would rather (pay and) listen to the original versions first. What I meant was, even though she can play them on piano, she doesn't always do so, which is why I say she shouldn't get in with all those weird electronic music and just do everything (maybe not everything, but just don't let it go to waste, ya?) with piano.
I don't know about that first statement, people pay $100+ to see her sing them live and only $15 for the digital version... And the first songs I listed are all still on the piano on the studio versions as well. But I don't see why her live performances can't contribute to her enormous Pop status? They greatly buffer it if anything, since she's got the talk behind her walk, though the same can't be said for Britney who neither sings live or ever touches a piano. Britney also makes that "weird electronic music" though she has to mask her voice behind autotune. I really don't see any arguement of how Britney's Pop career ousts Gaga's when Gaga outclasses her in every category.

Zorua
June 9th, 2011, 08:03 PM
I really don't see any arguement of how Britney's Pop career ousts Gaga's when Gaga outclasses her in every category.Hold on there. I know this is just your opinion, but just saying that I kinda disagree. I would love to see Gaga be popular for a good decade or two, or see if anyone still remembers her the way that people still remember Britney. Sure, most people would agree that Britney's old songs and how she was back then was probably more "likable" in a sense compared to what she is now. I'm just saying that there's absolutely nothing wrong with how Britney sings(at least to me), and honestly, I used to be a Gaga fan myself, but I just..grew away from her.

Gaga didn't impress me anymore. When I listen to old Madonna songs like Frozen(or even Celebration), it makes me think that really, she can't truly be dethroned by any means, and to me, the only person that could come close to her status is Britney, and maybe Mariah Carey as going by what Toujours said. I haven't seen Lady Gaga make a song with Madonna, so I really can't say how the two would really fare or even how they're even alike to each other in any way whatsoever.

If anything, Britney Spears would come closer to "Pop Queen" if anything else, if she sticks around for the next couple of years or the next decade or so. Lady Gaga gained her status because she just came out not so long ago, and making hit songs sell like cookies. But who can guarantee that Lady Gaga would still make hit songs a couple of years from now(or even 15 or 20)?

Most people are referring to Britney as old or something. I don't care if it has anything to do with how long she's been in the industry, or even her age. She's 29. Lady Gaga is 25. If anything, it's kinda redundant to call any of them old, knowing their ages. It's anyone's opinion whether or not Britney could dance(I personally think she can, but to each their own), or whether she could sing, but its not right if anyone says that she doesn't have talent, even if that is an opinion, that comes across as more biased than anything else I've ever heard(and most if it can't be helped, which I guess is understandable, but still)

Lady Gaga and Britney each have their own individual talents.They have a quality about them that makes them both shine to their fans. Britney's veteran status in the industry should not even come close to driving anyone away from her and moving onto Gaga just because she's old, or whatever the case may be(a general statement, before anyone jumps on me for this). Lady Gaga's mannerisms and fashion sense sometimes may be generally displeasing to most audiences as it is kinda explicit(depending on who you are, I suppose), but that shouldn't give a reason for the most devout fans of her from day one to move on from her in the first place(but it happens. People have moved on from Gaga to Britney and vice-versa).

Sure, I may sound like I'm contradicting myself. I'm an ex-gaga fan, I admit it, which probably makes you think that my words most likely mean nothing. From my perspective, I just got tired of her music. I'm not as fond of her songs as I still am with Britney, because I've been listening to Britney for such a long time. Getting into something like Lady Gaga's music was okay for me for a while, but in the end, it never really worked out for me, and I slowly drifted away from it, unfortunately.

It would be nice if there wasn't any bashing between both artists, but I guess that can't be helped as usual because most people are so devout and dedicated to their favourite pop artists, but I guess nothing is wrong with that, but there is kinda a line before the wrongs things are said and people get pissed and things get more personal than just shaving heads and meatdresses.

Just my two cents out there.

Diamond1304
June 9th, 2011, 09:10 PM
I don't know about that first statement, people pay $100+ to see her sing them live and only $15 for the digital version... And the first songs I listed are all still on the piano on the studio versions as well. But I don't see why her live performances can't contribute to her enormous Pop status?

I didn't say her live performances don't contribute anything...... 0.o

Oh I meant the originals, you know those originals...I don't know how to explain a word...original? XD

Let's see, cost of stage productions+ cost of traveling+cost of rental+cost of electricity usage from equipment= the price of a ticket, in this case, $100. Digital version only amounts to the value of the albums that's based on how good it is and what platform it's being sold at i.e. iTunes etc. :)

They greatly buffer it if anything, since she's got the talk behind her walk, though the same can't be said for Britney who neither sings live or ever touches a piano. Britney also makes that "weird electronic music" though she has to mask her voice behind autotune. I really don't see any arguement of how Britney's Pop career ousts Gaga's when Gaga outclasses her in every category.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Britney has sung live in 2009's "The Circus starring Britney Spears" and has 6 tours. Plus, you need not have to play the piano to be successful in live, you can play the guitar for instance. :D

Like Twilight Sky, I was an ex-Gaga fan, but since the time of Telephone, she just didn't give off the glow Lady Gaga had while Poker Face, Paparazzi, Dirty Money etc. And I liked both Britney and Steffani, so don't come and bash me for being biased, in the end, it's all opinions.

Oh and I have to thank Twilight Sky for expressing what I was thinking in a more eloquent manner. I'm not very good with all the terminology, you know, yeah... XD

Sodom
June 10th, 2011, 05:12 AM
Um. She's one of the world's best selling artists. The second highest selling woman artist of all time, behind Madonna, and just above Celine Dion, and the world's best selling artist of the 90s. She's sold 200 million records while Lady Gaga has sold 15. Mariah Carey has been popular over 20 years now. She's won 17 World Music Awards, and I'm fairly certain Lady Gaga hasn't won any, although she does match her in terms of Grammy Awards.

Mariah Carey isn't a "omg shock you look I'm in the spotlight look at me look at me" kind of artist. If that's the kind of artists you listen to, then you haven't heard much of her music because she just makes music. Her demographic is above the people obsessed with Lady Gaga, to an older audience who isn't looking for shock value in their music. You don't hear about her because she's not out there shaving her head, wearing ridiculous outfits for attention, etc. Even her sequel Christmas album, the kind of thing very little people care about, was in the top 5 on the charts when it was released.

Mariah Carey has more of a running at the Queen of Pop than Katy Perry and Pink combined. They're both just blips on the radar compared to her.

Well there you go lol - I've just never known Mariah Carey to be taken that seriously. The only things I've really heard about her are when people make fun of "Glitter"...

Mr Cat Dog
June 12th, 2011, 07:10 AM
Mariah would definitely have been called the Queen of Pop in the 90s, but I'm not sure if she still holds that title in the 10s (or whatever this new-fangled decade is called). Glitter certainly did a number on her reputation and although she rebounded recently, she's definitely not what she once was.

Gun to head, I'd probably say the Queens of pop were a combination of Beyonce and Lady Gaga. I don't think one of them individually is at the same level of prominence as Madonna, but together they're a force to be reckoned with. (I like, but don't love 'Telephone', but the media frenzy when it happened was almost unreal!) It also seems like they can co-exist without cannibalising each other, which is probably good for the music industry.

Haza
June 17th, 2011, 04:25 AM
Beyoncé is the modern Queen of Pop! The woman has the respect, accolades, and most importantly the talent to prove it. Like the King, Bey is a force that can not be messed with on a stage. She has proven herself as a song writer, mostly in her days in the biggest girl group of all time, Destiny's Child. She has sold well over 100 million records in her 15 year career, she continues to reign supreme even in areas of entertainment and business beyond music. She's had #1 fragrances, movies, & DVD's. All of this before the age of 30 and her work ethic won't allow for her to rest just yet. Beyoncé has made so much history at such a young age, and not one of her peers measures up to her, and they have all admitted to being inspired by her in some way or form. To EVER consider Britney for Queen over this woman... just reconsider your entire life please. Lady GaGa is well on her way but Beyoncé is holding down the throne.

Azonic
June 18th, 2011, 11:04 AM
Beyonce and Britney cannot touch Gaga.

First off, Beyonce isn't even pop-ish is she? She's like R&B anyways. A queen should be revolutionary, and the best thing we have is Gaga. She completely revolutionized the portrayal of female artists with her outfits. Without her, recent stars like Katy, Nicki, and Ke$ha would be a lot more toned down. She popularized an eccentric avant garde art style with mainstream music fans. She was the centerpiece for the electronic/dance music revolution in mainstream pop, and is undeniably THE biggest name in pop music at the moment. She clearly has raised the standard extremely high for other pop acts to be successful.

The only thing she needs to prove now is her longevity, but at the rate she's going, it's unlikely that she'll be slowing down soon. Her releases are more anticipated than ever, and she's always experimenting with new sounds and themes.

Beyonce is a big name with longevity and a lot of talent, but her overall work has had a tiny impact on pop music. She's just a pretty face that scores that hit once in a while in the background, like Katy Perry. Nothing impactful or too meaningful. Plus, Beyonce is disqualified from queen of pop position automatically because of the utter crap release called 4. Ms. Run the World does not even run the songwriting business at all.

Britney has like, 0 talent and gets her success handed to her. definitely not the queen of pop material.

I think the next best contender is Katy or Rihanna. They both have proven they can consistently crank out hits. Katy is well on her way to a Hot 100 #1 for a fifth single off Teenage Dream, which is incredible for a late album single. Rihanna's singles don't come off quite as strong, but still become consistent hits enough. And she has proven her longevity.

Haza
June 18th, 2011, 11:25 PM
Like the King, I feel like the Queen should be able to survive on their talent alone. GaGa is very talented but no one would check for her if she was not so over the top. And Beyonce is more respected and talked about in the industry and by her peers than any other Pop act out right now... and Beyonce does crossover music. Michael Jackson was not strictly a Pop artist. His last album Invincible had very many R&B cuts.

And to say GaGa has changed the way Pop artists today dress is in a way true, but Pop artists have done risque and crazy clothing for years. GaGa may have brought it back but she didn't invent it. Beyonce has inspired more female pop acts than GaGa ever has or will... need receipts? Check Katy, Miley, & Rihanna's twitter history...

Check her credentials lol, even Lady GaGa knows who the queen is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvqTPGwbZ4&feature=related

Azonic
June 19th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Like the King, I feel like the Queen should be able to survive on their talent alone. GaGa is very talented but no one would check for her if she was not so over the top. And Beyonce is more respected and talked about in the industry and by her peers than any other Pop act out right now... and Beyonce does crossover music. Michael Jackson was not strictly a Pop artist. His last album Invincible had very many R&B cuts.

And to say GaGa has changed the way Pop artists today dress is in a way true, but Pop artists have done risque and crazy clothing for years. GaGa may have brought it back but she didn't invent it. Beyonce has inspired more female pop acts than GaGa ever has or will... need receipts? Check Katy, Miley, & Rihanna's twitter history...

Check her credentials lol, even Lady GaGa knows who the queen is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvqTPGwbZ4&feature=related

GURRRL I KNEW YOU WOULD REPLY TO THIS. haha

BUUUUT...

I believe an artists talent lies in the ability to think of and produce an image as well as carrying the image through music and performances. Over-the-topness is a part of her talent... being able to werk dat meat dress. And you don't need to invent over-the-topness to be the pop queen. She took it to a new level, arguably went further than Madonna did and popularized it with mainstream fans and musicians + made a revolution.

And please. Beyonce is not more talked about than Gaga right now. lol.

Beyonce has inspired other artists because she did reach success earlier, when other artists are younger, whereas Gaga's legacy started like 2-3 years ago. The next wave of popstars are sure to take inspiration from Gaga and her fearless attitude. By the way Katy Rihanna and Miley all take influence from gaga too. Especially Miley, who makes it incredibly obvious lul.

Haza
June 21st, 2011, 03:37 PM
GURRRL I KNEW YOU WOULD REPLY TO THIS. haha

BUUUUT...

I believe an artists talent lies in the ability to think of and produce an image as well as carrying the image through music and performances. Over-the-topness is a part of her talent... being able to werk dat meat dress. And you don't need to invent over-the-topness to be the pop queen. She took it to a new level, arguably went further than Madonna did and popularized it with mainstream fans and musicians + made a revolution.

And please. Beyonce is not more talked about than Gaga right now. lol.

Beyonce has inspired other artists because she did reach success earlier, when other artists are younger, whereas Gaga's legacy started like 2-3 years ago. The next wave of popstars are sure to take inspiration from Gaga and her fearless attitude. By the way Katy Rihanna and Miley all take influence from gaga too. Especially Miley, who makes it incredibly obvious lul.

More stars right now are talking about Beyonce's influence and inspiration, lol, but GaGa has made EVERYONE step their image up, and I won't lie, in a way, the sound of the music as well, but Beyonce has always been constant with her level of performance and videos. Over the top or not Beyonce's material will always be classic. Honestly, GaGa is my second favorite artist, and I know she'll soon be Queen but Beyonce has it for the time being. It's not just a popularity contest, but a level of respect among their music industry peers. GaGa is just a money machine right now.

Gilgαmesh
June 21st, 2011, 03:50 PM
Britney has like, 0 talent and gets her success handed to her. definitely not the queen of pop material.


And who exactly are you to judge Britney's talent? I don't see you making more money than she is, so honestly, I'm quite disappointed.

See, most Gaga fans have the huge tendency to put down Britney unnecessarily. She got her success "handed" to her? That is the lowest thing anyone could ever say, even for a Gaga fan.

I respect Gaga as much as I respect Britney, and they're both quite talented artists. I believe that personally, Britney has this in the bag, but that's my opinion. I understand it is also your opinion that Britney does not have any talent, but that's obvious blind bias and criticism right there just for the sake of putting Gaga on a higher throne than Britney.

Okay, I understand something else now. There are a lot of Gaga fans, and there are a lot of Britney fans. This much is very obvious, and each side is devout to believe that their favourite pop artist is destined to become queen for many reasons. Either they make too much money, their fame, how alike they are to Madonna, their influence on pop culture itself, whatever the case may be. But I would like to state one important point here:

Gaga has been in the business for barely half a decade now or so. Britney? As far as I know, -way- longer than Gaga, and has a much bigger influence, to be quite honest. I'm saying this from the most objective standpoint, and it does have some truth to it, because for as long as Britney has been in the industry, she has made all sorts of impacts with her music, even before Gaga's time.

And honestly, it's also saddening that the only insult someone can come up with about Britney is that incident while she's shaving her head or whatever. Yeah, you try being severely depressed and lose your mind and tell yourself that you're obviously not going to do something insane.

But hey, that won't happen, because we've never been in Britney's exact situation, but yet, we still insult her and put that incident out there like it's the worst thing she could possibly do. How low is that?

Britney does put a lot of effort into her music, and influences a lot more people than one would normally think. I could say the same about Gaga, too. They're both respected artists, it's just that I prefer the former more than the latter. My preference, I know, but the point of this post is basically to say that there's no reason to rip Britney apart and say that she has no talent compared to someone such as Mariah Carey(or even Beyonce) or even Gaga herself. That's just not right.

Just saying here.

Azonic
June 21st, 2011, 04:40 PM
And who exactly are you to judge Britney's talent? I don't see you making more money than she is, so honestly, I'm quite disappointed. OMG I HAVENT TALKED TO YOU IN FOREGERR!!

ok but

Seriously this is not a valid argument. You don't need talent to judge others' talent. Simon Cowell cannot sing like Christina Aguilera and his ass is on X Factor. Just sayin

See, most Gaga fans have the huge tendency to put down Britney unnecessarily. She got her success "handed" to her? That is the lowest thing anyone could ever say, even for a Gaga fan.

I respect Gaga as much as I respect Britney, and they're both quite talented artists. I believe that personally, Britney has this in the bag, but that's my opinion. I understand it is also your opinion that Britney does not have any talent, but that's obvious blind bias and criticism right there just for the sake of putting Gaga on a higher throne than Britney.It's my honest opinion. I really dont think she has much talent. :s I mean, she JUST started live singing again (with a fairly average voice). Her dancing has been lacking compared to her old days, very stiff. Her hits are written and handed to her. :s

She definitely had talent in her StarSearch days, but it just went downhill completely.

Okay, I understand something else now. There are a lot of Gaga fans, and there are a lot of Britney fans. This much is very obvious, and each side is devout to believe that their favourite pop artist is destined to become queen for many reasons. Either they make too much money, their fame, how alike they are to Madonna, their influence on pop culture itself, whatever the case may be. But I would like to state one important point here:

Gaga has been in the business for barely half a decade now or so. Britney? As far as I know, -way- longer than Gaga, and has a much bigger influence, to be quite honest. I'm saying this from the most objective standpoint, and it does have some truth to it, because for as long as Britney has been in the industry, she has made all sorts of impacts with her music, even before Gaga's time.Gaga's been in for three years only. IMO she's made an impact comparable to Britney's, if not greater. I mean, her impact reached beyond just the song into a branch of art and this whole gay rights movement thing. Impact is relative though I guess.

Yup she still needs to prove longevity.

Britney does put a lot of effort into her music, and influences a lot more people than one would normally think.
I don't see it. :s She just seems so... disinterested. And all she's credited for is the vocals, and I am just not buying that she puts effort into it. Her studio voice is very processed, so I just can't help but think of her as just a name to put a song under so the song sells.

Gilgαmesh
June 21st, 2011, 05:32 PM
OMG I HAVENT TALKED TO YOU IN FOREGERR!!

ok but

Seriously this is not a valid argument. You don't need talent to judge others' talent. Simon Cowell cannot sing like Christina Aguilera and his ass is on X Factor. Just sayin

Sorry about how I came off, but I'm just really upset here. Britney just doesn't get deserved to get put down like this. I bet she even gets put down by the media themselves, and it's just...kinda heartbreaking, y'know? People putting Gaga on a higher pedestal and not caring about whatever Britney's doing, after Britney is struggling and putting as much effort as she can into her songs and basically just doing what she loves best.

But society doesn't see that, unfortunately.

It's my honest opinion. I really dont think she has much talent. :s I mean, she JUST started live singing again (with a fairly average voice). Her dancing has been lacking compared to her old days, very stiff. Her hits are written and handed to her. :s

She definitely had talent in her StarSearch days, but it just went downhill completely.

Okay, if you want to see it -that- way, but if you want to see it from an objective point of view, without comparing Britney to her older days, I'd say she's still attempting to be as big of a hit as ever as she was back then. I mentioned in my post before, most Britney fans(even though that aren't Britney fans say the same) say that the way Brit was before is better than the way she is now, etc etc.

What those people don't realize, is -of course- everything is going to look prettier when it first comes out than twenty years after the same thing(I bet you a lot more people were into Gaga when she released "Just Dance" than something like "Born This Way"). I look at Britney not as a celebrity, but as a person. Sometimes I feel that she's very underappreciated, because people look more at her past than the present. You may disagree with me with this, but when she released Hold it against me and Till' the World Ends, Brit, to me, proved to the world that she's not even close to giving up, even if she's not what she used to be.

That's honestly what makes me look up to her so much. She doesn't do what she does for fame, or for money, or for anything like that. She does what she likes because it's what she loves doing the most.

Gaga's been in for three years only. IMO she's made an impact comparable to Britney's, if not greater. I mean, her impact reached beyond just the song into a branch of art and this whole gay rights movement thing. Impact is relative though I guess.

Yup she still needs to prove longevity.


I agree, the impact that Gaga made for being new to the industry is quite impressive, but you also have to see this from a different point of view. For Britney being in Pop for as long as she is, you'd expect that she would somehow "drop out" in other words, or probably get tired of it or something. But she has a lot of devout fans that want to continue listening to her music and believe and respect that(as I said), even though Britney wasn't the same as she was when she released, for example, "Oops, I did it again!", they would still see her as that marvelous and incredible pop icon that managed to last until this present day.

I don't see it. :s She just seems so... disinterested. And all she's credited for is the vocals, and I am just not buying that she puts effort into it. Her studio voice is very processed, so I just can't help but think of her as just a name to put a song under so the song sells.

She seems that way because that's how the media -portrays- her to be. I bet you 9 times out of ten she gets constant hate and crap from other people every single day, and I bet you that she's struggling with these recent songs coming out and whatnot just to get her life together. People can criticize what they want about her voice, but I can just as well criticize Gaga's voice and say a million things about it, so that argument is null because that's purely opinion-based, and it's not like we've actually been in their studios anyway to see them recording in person or something.

Basically, you can correct me, but from what I'm understanding, you're saying that Britney has "lost her touch", in other words. For me, and for many others, she hasn't, and she's been trying to prove that for the longest time, but a lot of people -just- don't see that, and it hurts, because most people have this narrow view that "Oh since Gaga just came out and only been in the industry for three years and made an impact just as much as britney did, she'll def outlast britney" and this "britney's old, etc" point of view.

It's not like that. It really isn't.

Diamond1304
June 22nd, 2011, 01:06 AM
Seriously this is not a valid argument. You don't need talent to judge others' talent. Simon Cowell cannot sing like Christina Aguilera and his ass is on X Factor. Just sayin

I would like to also throw my 2 cents here. In actual fact, talent can't be judged as an overall as some people may like a certain genre of music or a certain style while others don't. So then, we can't really say that Lady Gaga or Britney Spears don't have talent.

I feel that a queen should be the one that starts the whole everything about pop. And I believe that if it were to come down to a single person, it would be Britney, for me. Britney Spears spearheaded the rise of post-millennial teen pop and she became an international pop culture icon very fast into her career.

If anyone says Lady Gaga is better than Britney Spears in whatever way, let me remind you this. Britney Spears paved the way for all other singers in the following generations. So technically, without Britney Spears, we wouldn't have Stefani Germanotta. Not only does Spears have a major influence on other pop artistes, she has a fascinating legacy and people are inspired by her to be in the music industry.

Yes, Lady Gaga has been a trailblazer for modern culture, but has she really been devoted to her music to a massive extent that she inspired others to follow in her footsteps. Lady Gaga only expand music to make it more diverse, she didn't exactly created something a whole lot newer.

And also, the fact the people bring up about Britney's breakdown incident just irks me. It's not like she's the only celebrity to snap and just because she did insane things doesn't label her as a freak. If Britney Spears is a freak, then you might as well say that Lady Gaga deserves to be in an asylum since her songs are way crazier than what Britney did.

By the way Katy Rihanna and Miley all take influence from gaga too. Especially Miley, who makes it incredibly obvious lul.
First off, as a strong fan of Katy Perry, she is definitely not like Gaga. Katy Perry has her own dance style, which is quite obvious. And the fact that usually her fashion sense is humorous and colourful, meant to make people laugh about it and not to create much controversy. There's also quite a clear contrast between Katy and Gaga. Katy started off with gospel music before slowly detaching herself and going towards pop. In an interview with some magazine, she also said that she didn't really like the fact when Lady Gaga put a rosary in her mouth. Katy Perry clearly knows the line between sex and religion.

Miley Cyrus hasn't really showed much Gaga influence. Actually, she's reflecting more like Britney Spears as the 'good girl gone bad' which was what Britney pulled off and it seems to be working well. Miley also cited that her inspiration came from Britney Spears. If you have evidence that Miley Cyrus has been influenced by Lady Gaga, please tell me as I may not be correct in what I say but what I do know for a fact that Britney Spears was a source of inspiration for Miley. :3

Gold warehouse
June 22nd, 2011, 03:22 AM
Reading these posts makes it seem like pop wasn't around before the late 90s.

Britney Spears paved the way for all other singers in the following generations. So technically, without Britney Spears, we wouldn't have Stefani Germanotta.Seriously?

Britney's time of being a major icon has passed. Gaga's probably will too. Really only the future can tell; if Gaga somehow manages to remain as big as she is now for the next decade then maybe we can start calling her a queen of pop. It also depends on what criteria people have to meet. If it's all about the music, then nobody at the moment can claim the title. If it's about image and popularity then there's no way Britney can ever compare with Gaga right now. Britney was biggest before, Gaga's biggest now, Beyonce hasn't managed to get as much attention as either of them but has been relevant for a much longer period of time. They're all notable for their own reasons but none of them clearly shines above the rest. And I'm not a fan of any of them so I'm giving an unbiased opinion.

Nobody's reached the throne yet. I honestly don't think anyone does deserves it right now other than Madonna.

Nuke
June 22nd, 2011, 06:58 AM
Gaga has achieved a greater following in much less time.

No real contest for me, I would have probably forgot about Britney if it weren't for this forum.

IMO, Beyoncé is second rather than Britney but even she can't touch Gaga.

Azonic
June 22nd, 2011, 02:16 PM
I feel that a queen should be the one that starts the whole everything about pop. And I believe that if it were to come down to a single person, it would be Britney, for me. Britney Spears spearheaded the rise of post-millennial teen pop and she became an international pop culture icon very fast into her career.

If anyone says Lady Gaga is better than Britney Spears in whatever way, let me remind you this. Britney Spears paved the way for all other singers in the following generations. So technically, without Britney Spears, we wouldn't have Stefani Germanotta. Not only does Spears have a major influence on other pop artistes, she has a fascinating legacy and people are inspired by her to be in the music industry. Highly disagree. If anyone should be accredited with paving the way for future pop acts, it is Madonna. I don't really see Britney's influence in Gaga at all and with Gaga's outrage and controversy, she most definitely could have gained her fame without Britney. And anyways, Gaga has already created a great legacy and has influenced so many people in her short amount of time of being here.

Yes, Lady Gaga has been a trailblazer for modern culture, but has she really been devoted to her music to a massive extent that she inspired others to follow in her footsteps. Lady Gaga only expand music to make it more diverse, she didn't exactly created something a whole lot newer.

And also, the fact the people bring up about Britney's breakdown incident just irks me. It's not like she's the only celebrity to snap and just because she did insane things doesn't label her as a freak. If Britney Spears is a freak, then you might as well say that Lady Gaga deserves to be in an asylum since her songs are way crazier than what Britney did.Gaga's one of the hardest working stars out there. She barely ever stops touring. The Monster Ball was huge, just adding leg after leg. She's very devoted into making her music, and you can definitely see her influence even right now.

And no one slagged Britney on her breakdown here. :s But anyways I think craziness in songs is exactly what a popstar should be adding. The unexpected.


First off, as a strong fan of Katy Perry, she is definitely not like Gaga. Katy Perry has her own dance style, which is quite obvious. And the fact that usually her fashion sense is humorous and colourful, meant to make people laugh about it and not to create much controversy. There's also quite a clear contrast between Katy and Gaga. Katy started off with gospel music before slowly detaching herself and going towards pop. In an interview with some magazine, she also said that she didn't really like the fact when Lady Gaga put a rosary in her mouth. Katy Perry clearly knows the line between sex and religion.

Miley Cyrus hasn't really showed much Gaga influence. Actually, she's reflecting more like Britney Spears as the 'good girl gone bad' which was what Britney pulled off and it seems to be working well. Miley also cited that her inspiration came from Britney Spears. If you have evidence that Miley Cyrus has been influenced by Lady Gaga, please tell me as I may not be correct in what I say but what I do know for a fact that Britney Spears was a source of inspiration for Miley. :3Never said Katy was a copycat of Gaga, but we can't really deny that recent acts like her, Nicki, etc have taken influence from Gaga's style. Of course, Katy commits to weird fashion in her own style, but I still think it would be a lot more toned down had Gaga not come around. Oh and lol @ your point about the Alejandro video. She stated in the magazine that she was defending her tweet by saying it wasn't just about Alejandro but for something else (or something. I remember she evaded the Gaga shade at least). And anyways, in the issue of that interview she had a cross necklace dangling right in between her breasts so she has no room to talk haha. I don't think she's crossed a line with religion at all. She's pushing envelope at most.

And about Miley, you can argue this all you want, but to me she had Gaga written all over her Can't Be Tamed music video and her sudden adult transformation. And she hasn't shyed away from opening up about her huge Gaga fandom at all either. If I remember correctly, she was more excited to meet Gaga than the queen of England. Haha

Reading these posts makes it seem like pop wasn't around before the late 90s.

Seriously?

Britney's time of being a major icon has passed. Gaga's probably will too. Really only the future can tell; if Gaga somehow manages to remain as big as she is now for the next decade then maybe we can start calling her a queen of pop. It also depends on what criteria people have to meet. If it's all about the music, then nobody at the moment can claim the title. If it's about image and popularity then there's no way Britney can ever compare with Gaga right now. Britney was biggest before, Gaga's biggest now, Beyonce hasn't managed to get as much attention as either of them but has been relevant for a much longer period of time. They're all notable for their own reasons but none of them clearly shines above the rest. And I'm not a fan of any of them so I'm giving an unbiased opinion.

Nobody's reached the throne yet. I honestly don't think anyone does deserves it right now other than Madonna.

I can agree with most of this. However, Madonna certainly can't be called the modern queen of pop anymore, at least. lul

Haza
June 23rd, 2011, 01:11 AM
Lol, people are honestly saying Britney is the Queen? Britney is a robot with processed vocals, stiff choreography, and handlers. The Queen would not stall out before the age of 30... I'm sorry. I'd put Rihanna in the running before Britney! Lol, not really but almost. It's surely between Lady GaGa & Beyoncé. They are basically lapping it up in the throne. I still say Bey has the crown though, GaGa is popular yes, but she still hasn't gained the level of respect that Beyoncé has. Maybe after the Born This Way era is done she will have proven herself but as of now most people are only in it for the shock value, controversy, & outfits. Britney is NOT respected so therefore I disqualify her.

Gilgαmesh
June 23rd, 2011, 01:28 AM
Lol, people are honestly saying Britney is the Queen? Britney is a robot with processed vocals, stiff choreography, and handlers.

I didn't know you were her manager. Would you mind telling me how her voice is so robotic and artificial while somehow Gaga or even Beyonce's voice is somehow godly to you?


The Queen would not stall out before the age of 30... I'm sorry. I'd put Rihanna in the running before Britney! Lol, not really but almost.

Lady Gaga is 25. Britney is 29, and so is Beyonce. Would you mind explaining that age part again? Cause it's kinda irrelevant.

It's surely between Lady GaGa & Beyoncé. They are basically lapping it up in the throne. I still say Bey has the crown though, GaGa is popular yes, but she still hasn't gained the level of respect that Beyoncé has.


Beyonce, maybe. Lady Gaga, maybe. They need to produce more material and whatnot, etc.

Maybe after the Born This Way era is done she will have proven herself but as of now most people are only in it for the shock value, controversy, & outfits. Britney is NOT respected so therefore I disqualify her.

Not respected? Amongst who? You? I didn't know you were the judge on who makes Queen of Pop or not, Haza. I don't know why, but your entire post is nothing but blatant and immature hate on Britney, and this kind of behavior is exactly why most people are so blind to Britney's talents.

If you don't respect her, that's fine. Don't try to make it a generalization.


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On another note, I respect Beyonce as an artist, but this post is to show that there's no reason to put Britney down. You're putting Gaga and Beyonce on a way higher throne than someone who's been in the field for just almost twice as long as Gaga and I'm pretty sure she's been in the field longer than Beyonce, if anything else. You're just trying to use the "Britney's old" card, which will kinda never work, because as you can see, Madonna is pretty flipping old, but I bet she could still whip out stuff as good as she was back in the day. That's how talented she is, and how she managed to earn her spot.

Britney is in the lead because it is kinda much too early for Gaga, and Beyonce hasn't really caught the "spotlight" or much attention from that many fans, as much the focus is on Britney and what have you. If Britney continues to dish out amazing songs as always that will captivate her fans for the next decade or so if she remains, then it's already decided(like I said before. Britney most likely doesnt do this for the fame or whatnot. She does it because its what she loves). Even if Gaga decides to sell out amazing songs and whatnot, it's still respected for someone thats been in the industry for a long time, to STILL be in the field and produce amazing songs as always.

Diamond1304
June 23rd, 2011, 04:27 AM
Highly disagree. If anyone should be accredited with paving the way for future pop acts, it is Madonna. I don't really see Britney's influence in Gaga at all and with Gaga's outrage and controversy, she most definitely could have gained her fame without Britney. And anyways, Gaga has already created a great legacy and has influenced so many people in her short amount of time of being here.

Oh well it's your own opinion if you agree or not but well I used to be a monster fan and I know for a fact that Lady Gaga listed Britney Spears as one of her influences. You may not see the influence, but that doesn't mean you have a right to say Britney didn't influence Gaga.

And no one slagged Britney on her breakdown here. :s But anyways I think craziness in songs is exactly what a popstar should be adding. The unexpected.And I didn't say it was in this discussion. ;D Yup I concur with you that craziness is now the new normal and I live somewhat by that phrase. XD

Never said Katy was a copycat of Gaga, but we can't really deny that recent acts like her, Nicki, etc have taken influence from Gaga's style. Of course, Katy commits to weird fashion in her own style, but I still think it would be a lot more toned down had Gaga not come around. Oh and lol @ your point about the Alejandro video. She stated in the magazine that she was defending her tweet by saying it wasn't just about Alejandro but for something else (or something. I remember she evaded the Gaga shade at least). And anyways, in the issue of that interview she had a cross necklace dangling right in between her breasts so she has no room to talk haha. I don't think she's crossed a line with religion at all. She's pushing envelope at most. Yes of course, the fashion trend which I admitted Gaga can be commended for that. And as for the rosary thing, when I wrote that post, I wasn't thinking about the music video. I just used that quote from K.P. to paint out the contrasts. :3

And about Miley, you can argue this all you want, but to me she had Gaga written all over her Can't Be Tamed music video and her sudden adult transformation. And she hasn't shyed away from opening up about her huge Gaga fandom at all either. If I remember correctly, she was more excited to meet Gaga than the queen of England. HahaActually, I -can- because it has been known. Can't Be Tamed is like a pretty much broaden version of Party in the USA, the latter was inspired by Spears. Miley Cyrus has already cited inspiration from Britney Spears, but I have yet to read the words 'Lady Gaga' in the list of names. Gaga wasn't the adult transformation, she didn't even start as a teenager like Britney so obviously your link is irrelevant here. And that comparison between Lady Gaga and the Queen of England, if I may say so, is quite biased. Obviously, even I would rather meet Miss Stefani than a queen who isn't trendy. Why not compare Britney Spears with Lady Gaga and ask which one Miley would rather meet?

Lol, people are honestly saying Britney is the Queen? Britney is a robot with processed vocals, stiff choreography, and handlers.
Lol, and you're just a person hiding behind an avatar and flaming popstars with processed words, stiff thinking and nothing.

Nuke
June 23rd, 2011, 07:10 AM
If I remember correctly, she was more excited to meet Gaga than the queen of England. Haha


To be fair, I think a lot of people would be.

You're putting Gaga and Beyonce on a way higher throne than someone who's been in the field for just almost twice as long as Gaga and I'm pretty sure she's been in the field longer than Beyonce, if anything else. Y

I'd say Britney being around twice as long is a bad thing. More time to make an influence yet less influence made.

I think Gaga's following will continue to gradually grow from now on and Britney will possibly soon fade to obscurity.

Azonic
June 23rd, 2011, 08:17 AM
Oh well it's your own opinion if you agree or not but well I used to be a monster fan and I know for a fact that Lady Gaga listed Britney Spears as one of her influences. You may not see the influence, but that doesn't mean you have a right to say Britney didn't influence Gaga.
Don't recall. But that still doesn't mean Britney paved the way to the other modern popstars.

Actually, I -can- because it has been known. Can't Be Tamed is like a pretty much broaden version of Party in the USA, the latter was inspired by Spears. Miley Cyrus has already cited inspiration from Britney Spears, but I have yet to read the words 'Lady Gaga' in the list of names. Gaga wasn't the adult transformation, she didn't even start as a teenager like Britney so obviously your link is irrelevant here.Miley stated in an MTV interview, I think, that Can't Be Tamed (album) had a more techno feel and a Lady Gaga influence.

Party In The USA? Written by Jessie J not Miley. And as for the Britney song was on lyric, didn't she later change that lyric to "And the Gaga song was on" in her live performance while doing the Bad Romance dance? :)

And no you don't have to undergo a teenage-adult transformation to inspire others to go through. Miley was a teen Disney singer, and IMO she saw Gaga as an adult artist. Said, "That's cool, I think I should try something like that," turned into a bird, and shot Can't Be Tamed. theres no way to verify that's what she said, but she's really giving off that impression.

I didn't know you were her manager. Would you mind telling me how her voice is so robotic and artificial while somehow Gaga or even Beyonce's voice is somehow godly to you?IMO, I really would respect Gaga's and Beyonce's voice a lot more. In Britney's studio recordings, her voice sounds pretty processed. You can hear a lot of layers and a weird equilization effect to bring out the breathiness of her voice (If I said my heart was ...). The autotune is pretty obvious and her voice doesn't demonstrate the upper range of support that a good singer would. Beyonce has obviously proven her vocal capabiities, and Gaga has definitely been putting up very good demonstrations of her voice (especially the acoustic Edge of Glory videos). Britney is just starting to sing live, and she can't deliver the same vocal-heavy performances like Bey or Gaga. Her backing track is still left very loud.

Edit: ok so apparently Britney recorded vocals to sound live, but really are prerecorded. nevermiiind.

Haza
June 24th, 2011, 01:19 AM
Britney stans are delusional... I never said anything hateful, I love her music. She just isn't Queen material. She doesn't have the passion that a Queen should have, and if you do your research, many celebrities have praised both Bey and GaGa for their incredible work ethics. Never Britney. It's obvious that Britney doesn't care as much anymore... *see her Femme Fatale Tour*, any fan of Britney that is NOT delusional will admit that the passion is just no longer there, and this is what I meant when I said that the Queen would not stall out before the age of 30.

Diamond1304
June 24th, 2011, 03:36 AM
Britney stans are delusional... I never said anything hateful, I love her music. She just isn't Queen material. She doesn't have the passion that a Queen should have, and if you do your research, many celebrities have praised both Bey and GaGa for their incredible work ethics. Never Britney. It's obvious that Britney doesn't care as much anymore... *see her Femme Fatale Tour*, any fan of Britney that is NOT delusional will admit that the passion is just no longer there, and this is what I meant when I said that the Queen would not stall out before the age of 30.
Nothing hateful?? Hahahaha.... You say I'm delusional, well your no better. It takes one to know one. At least I'm not biased like you all. I used to be a Lady Gaga fan just that her recent hits didn't really appeal to me like before. Oh and before I forget, it's fans, not stans. /shrugs

You know, this discussion is getting real biased, so I'm not gonna reply to anything biased from now on. You guys are all so quick to criticize other artistes but always deny anything against Gaga. Yeah, so what if Femme Fatale isn't as great as Britney's earlier hits. Y'all obviously forgot that she just recovered from a breakdown. You think its so easy to bounce back up especially in a demanding industry? Maybe wait till Lady Gaga has her own snaps, then you'll understand. Some of the arguments here are just baseless and usually are just discriminating.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and biased opinions. I just keep on seeing the latter.

Mr Cat Dog
June 24th, 2011, 04:41 AM
Oh my God, seriously? I don't want this turning into a flamefest like the ones that pop up in Other Chat - and on such a trivial topic as well - so just calm your jets before I start infracting people. Mmmkay?

Diamond1304
June 24th, 2011, 04:47 AM
Oh my God, seriously? I don't want this turning into a flamefest like the ones that pop up in Other Chat - and on such a trivial topic as well - so just calm your jets before I start infracting people. Mmmkay?
Okay okay, sorry for the rant, I just didn't like how people keep on pointing out Britney Spear's flaws and harp on everything bad. I mean like, even I commend Lady Gaga's positive talents. It just put me off at that moment of time. >.<'

Nuke
June 24th, 2011, 07:02 AM
Nothing hateful?? Hahahaha.... You say I'm delusional, well your no better. It takes one to know one. At least I'm not biased like you all. I used to be a Lady Gaga fan just that her recent hits didn't really appeal to me like before. Oh and before I forget, it's fans, not stans. /shrugs

You know, this discussion is getting real biased, so I'm not gonna reply to anything biased from now on. You guys are all so quick to criticize other artistes but always deny anything against Gaga. Yeah, so what if Femme Fatale isn't as great as Britney's earlier hits. Y'all obviously forgot that she just recovered from a breakdown. You think its so easy to bounce back up especially in a demanding industry? Maybe wait till Lady Gaga has her own snaps, then you'll understand. Some of the arguments here are just baseless and usually are just discriminating.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and biased opinions. I just keep on seeing the latter.

Drifting slightly off topic but I'd like to clear this one up.

Based on the central character in the Eminem song of the same name, a "stan" is an overzealous maniacal fan for any celebrity or athlete.

I'd say Gaga has had a pretty rough past as well, she clearly hasn't had anything on the scale of Britney's breakdown but still.

Haza
June 26th, 2011, 06:34 AM
By the way, when I said Britney was not respected, I did not mean just by the fans. The industry does not really respect Britney as an artist. FYI, fans do not hand out the Grammys. There is a Grammy committee that is made up of other artists and industry officials. If they respected Britney and her music as an artist, she would have more than a single Grammy. GaGa has 5 already, and do I really have to mention the amount that Bey has accumulated? *coughs 16!* That's respect for you, bye.

Guy
June 29th, 2011, 12:14 PM
According to Rolling Stone, the modern (2009 - mid 2011) Queen of Pop would be Lady Gaga. This is based off of a compilation of album sales, digital tracks, number of official music video views on Youtube, airplay, Billboard Hot 100, social networking, touring, awards, and album reviews.

If you'd like to give it a read and see the rankings of other pop-related artists, check it out here (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/introducing-the-queen-of-pop-20110629?page=1).

A Pixy
June 29th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Lady Gaga as the Queen of Pop...

I have no qualms with this. She's unique and she'll be remembered long after she retires. As long as the person who's going to be held on the same platform as one of the most famous musicians/people of all time, she better not be a one-off fad. Which she isn't.

Haza
June 30th, 2011, 03:38 AM
According to Rolling Stone, the modern (2009 - mid 2011) Queen of Pop would be Lady Gaga. This is based off of a compilation of album sales, digital tracks, number of official music video views on Youtube, airplay, Billboard Hot 100, social networking, touring, awards, and album reviews.

If you'd like to give it a read and see the rankings of other pop-related artists, check it out here (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/introducing-the-queen-of-pop-20110629?page=1).

According to that ranking system the Queen of Pop trio would be between GaGa, Rihanna, and Taylor Swift... the title would not go based on what's HOT NOW, in my opinion. Michael and Madonna were not just HOT and popular. I still say that Bey & Britney are in the running regardless of the past 2 years, they are still up there with the new girls and slaying. They have longevity, and not just a short burst of popularity and hit singles.

Also, Bey & Britney, before recent months, had not released albums since 2008 only using numbers from those years is kind of unfair.

Nyokou
July 23rd, 2011, 03:54 PM
I guess longevity does have something to do with it but just because Britney and Beyonce have been around longer doesn't mean that they're the Queens of Pop. Pop is an ever-changing music genre itself so I have a hard time trying to understand whether Gaga, Beyonce or Britney even fit in it.

Beyonce is more like Queen of Pop-R&B. When you think of Beyonce... you don't necessarily think of pop music really. Most people would think R&B. But her music also incorporates some pop elements which makes it totally unique. And sure, Pop-R&B sounds weird but you'll get used to the idea.

Britney Spears is the Queen of Dance-Pop and Lady Gaga is the Queen of Electro-Pop.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. Cause I think Madonna will always be the original Queen of Pop.

Weeaboo Name
July 23rd, 2011, 04:13 PM
Don't particularly like her but if the title was to be passed on today it would be to Gaga, saying that i haven't listened to her since the song she did with Beyonce so I'm not the best person to ask.

LaureTheLoner
July 23rd, 2011, 04:27 PM
Sorry but it'd be Britney Spears there is no question

Maybe because i'm kind of older than some of you but she came out during the Boy Band era and was really the first in a while of female pop sings, Christina and everyone else came after.

OOps I did it again is probably her greatest album, and there wasn't a person around then who didn't know that song

Lady Gaga....

I loved her first album but really she's just too much anymore

Born this Way was bleh

Edge of Glory was stupid

Judas was okay, but not the best

When she came out it all seemed so original, but lately she doesn't even try and hide that she's copying off Madonna

Weeaboo Name
July 23rd, 2011, 04:35 PM
But has Britney Spears done anything good since 2003? She had a breakdown, dressed up as a flight attendant and.....yeah.

Lady Gaga
July 23rd, 2011, 04:45 PM
Britney used to be the Queen, but Gaga has slowly been taking over. The only thing, apparently to you guys, that she doesnt have to become the true Queen, is lasting value. Well, she has been around for three/four years, so you really cant judge her on that. Also, its debatable if Britney even has lasted. Yea, she's releasing new songs, but name some that are actually doing well on the charts or are actually good. It kinda went downhill for her after, well, you know what happened...

Meanwhile, Gaga's creativity in her clothing, music, and persona has garnered the most media attention, whether that be sales, headlines, fanbase, etc. She is the current Queen. Now we just have to wait and see if she lasts. Of course, with fans like me, she will. But it may turn up to be a Britney situation were only the hardcore fans really care. Its all up to time and the public even though they are getting sick of her as well. i dont get it, how can you hate somebody as good and pure as gaga (no over exaggerations here guys, shes a nice lady)...

Aside from the crossed-out parts, this is totally unbiased. And this is also coming from a person with the username Lady Gaga :P

G.U.Y.
July 23rd, 2011, 04:57 PM
Britney Spears is a great dancer. When she sings it's like nails on a chalkboard (although it has gotten a lot better over the years) and when you go to her concerts all she does is put the CD in and dance to it. A bit of an over-exaggeration but if you say Britney Spears doesn't lip sync you're a straight up ignorant fool!

The Queen of Pop needs to be a great dancer, a great singer (I know, it's hard to believe but that's kind of important), a good person, and needs to do more than just Pop music. The last one..I feel is very important. Diversity is key!

So..my vote goes to Ke$ha Lady Gaga. She has a fantastic voice (never lip syncs) and is a great dancer (although, sometimes when she's dancing and singing she sounds like Katy Perry on crack..it's hard to dance and sing.) She does more than pop music (You and I, Speechless, Brown Eyes most notably). She's a good person (very politically active especially towards gay issues.) She's unique and genuinely talented. You have to be a deaf moron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWtcRL03FVo) to not realize that she is talented. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_GMgkcc2KM)

Whether or not you like the music shouldn't be a factor.

LaureTheLoner
July 23rd, 2011, 07:04 PM
Britney's concerts always do awesome

All the albums, except Black Out, which came out during her crazy period, which I hate to be the "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" person, but I think she was entitled to all those break downs. She was married to an idiot and divorcing him, paparazzi being everywhere.

Oh she lips syncs but I don't mind it, because girl can dance. You go to her concert to see a show in my opinion.

Bad Romance really? How can you say that's Gaga's voice. IT reeks of electronics

but w/e everyone is auto tunned anymore

lol don't see anyone nominating Katy Perry