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Forever
June 28th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Firstly, I posted this in OC, rather than OVP because I feel it could bring about broad discussion, if you disagree, by all means feel free to move it to OVP.

There's something about PC that is attractive to members, and is why this forum continually is growing in size. Many could agree that aesthetics-wise, this forum is waaay ahead of the other big ones, being Bulbapedia and Serebii. Some could say that the the ROM Hacks produced by people here are a reason why PC is popular, while others could say it's those reasons as well as a multitude of other ones, too. Along with that, generally the community is welcoming in nature (and with the various get togethers, you could say we have a community spirit). When new members join you generally hear "I've come from so and so because I heard this forum is better". It's funny too, most of the time you don't really see our members mention that they're leaving PC for another forum, while most of the time you always get people saying they came from either Bulbapedia or Serebii. I'm only mentioning those because they are generally the larger ones you hear of. Funnily enough, one has a Wiki to back up its popularity, and the other has a website. PC technically has neither (only saying technically, because PPN's site is technically PC's and yeaaah), so how come PC's up there with the big names?

What are your thoughts? What keeps the members "rolling in" - in a sense? I'd also like to ask another question - how could the community be improved? Actually, do you even think PC is successful? Do you feel it fails in comparison to the other forums? Also, what do you think keeps people here?

Also, it would help if you posted in general why you think it's successful, rather than why you specifically like it. And if you have a personal opinion of someone here being why you don't like it, we don't need to hear that.

Oh and:
[16:00:11] <Toujours> well it has to count for SOMETHING that PC is the first result when you google things like "best pokemon forum" lol

~Ryukaa
June 28th, 2011, 12:37 AM
Well, it's fun. I can bum around here and enjoy it. It's not really that tight, like some forums can be, and it really just feels natural and normal to just be here. Even with browsing around. Not to mention it's got some great people on it. What keeps the members rolling in is probably the ROM Hacks, lol.
I really don't know how it can be improved. I like it the way it is at the moment. It's lax, not excessively overcrowded, like some websites and forums can be, and yeah. o3o
It's definitely successful, and I hope it stays that way for a long time.
I think the people around here just like the place for being somewhere to communicate with others that enjoy similar interests, and to be able to express themselves at times. It doesn't need to change.
That's what I think.

Eliminator Jr.
June 28th, 2011, 04:16 AM
I'd say the two deciding factors were the activity and the professionalism/layout. I was looking for a Pokémon forum to join after a roleplay forum I was at began to fade activity-wise (as the other moderators reached the senior grades of high school they couldn't attend to all the RP threads), and found PokéCommunity via a Google search. The layout was great and it looked really professional, and it was extremely active which meant it was unlikely to die, so I joined. I left PC for about nine months, I can't remember exactly why but I think there just weren't any threads that I had an interest in posting in or hadn't already posted in left. A year later I re-registered as Eliminator Jr.

Sort of went off topic there - but the forum is active, which means that there's usually something new whenever I check. It's also set out really well (I don't like the anime/canon much so I only use skins without characters in it (like Generation2, which is what I've been using for the past year or so)), which was at first an incentive to join and is now an added bonus.

Hybrid Trainer
June 28th, 2011, 04:56 AM
Well wasn't PC the forum for a couple of websites? My PC history isn't all that good but if i'm correct then that would've brought a hell of a lot of members to here, which would then have boosted the rank in search engines which would then mean more members could join. It's a sort of snowball effect.
As for comparison to the other sites, Serebii and Bulbagarden, the main thing there is that they have a website. As good as that sounds that can be their downfall. i'm constantly on Bulbapedia but i've yet to go onto Bulbagarden forums, the same goes for Serebii. With PC its the forum or nothing. Not to mention PC have a nice feel to it. It's hard to explain but on S&B have very dark colour schemes which make me feel really uncomfortable and unwelcoming. PC is really warm and comfortable :3
As for the new members now its mostly because of word of mouth and the hacking section, hell even i joined for the hacking section xD It's kinda like come for the hacks, stay for the community sorta thing.

I personally stay here because of the people. The community here all have pretty much the same interests as me so i can pretty much talk to anyone ^-^ Also i've managed to build up an image that i like here.

As for improvements i can't really say anything. A little less down time would maybe get people to join more but apart from that there is noting. This place is pretty perfect as it is.

Captain Hobo.
June 28th, 2011, 05:20 AM
I think all new member join because there is something for everyone here.

The are ROM hacks, Pokemon boards on EVERYTHING, or just chat. :P

That is just my idea.

Gold warehouse
June 28th, 2011, 07:08 AM
Because Pokémon is awesome and all the competitor forums suck. I personally just liked the forum skin at the time I found this place (Forever Standing).

shenanigans
June 28th, 2011, 07:18 AM
I expect it'd be the rom hacking section. As far as I know that's not something really common on other major forums and I see a lot of people going there.

Based on opinion that it is any better than other forums tho. Not that I don't think it is, in just saying.

I'd write a lot more but on my phone right now. Maybe I'll update this later.

Livewire
June 28th, 2011, 07:21 AM
If I recall correctly, PC's one of the oldest Pokemon Forums there is, and seeing as it's been around for so long, naturally, it would begin to garner a reputation for itself. The massive ROM hacking section also had something to do with it, I'm sure. The people here, the organization, and the way we do things as a community also led to success.

Exile
June 28th, 2011, 07:25 AM
As Live, said it has established itself as one of the premier Pokemon forums on the net, since it's been around for so long. Not only that, it promotes creativity, with sections like Rom Hacking, Game Dev, G&P and Pixel Art, the forum skins are far superior to most other forum, as well, which might help, a bit.

Sweet Candace
June 28th, 2011, 07:32 AM
I think the ROM Hacking section played a big part in the forum becoming so successful, honestly.

Esper
June 28th, 2011, 08:05 AM
It's hard to explain but on S&B have very dark colour schemes which make me feel really uncomfortable and unwelcoming. PC is really warm and comfortable :3
I think this was a big part of why I picked this forum. If I remember, it was Sinnoh Springs which was the theme I saw when I came here and it was quite professional looking, especially compared to the other forums, and felt kind of warm and welcoming.

I think PC is successful because it's good for the casual fan as well as the serious fan. I don't really know much about Bulbapedia and Serebii as far as their forums go, but I would guess that they aren't as casual or relaxed as this place is. And when you think about all the specialized forums then you can really expect casual fans to pick somewhere like PC.

Overlord Drakow
June 28th, 2011, 08:21 AM
I think this was a big part of why I picked this forum. If I remember, it was Sinnoh Springs which was the theme I saw when I came here and it was quite professional looking, especially compared to the other forums, and felt kind of warm and welcoming.

I think PC is successful because it's good for the casual fan as well as the serious fan. I don't really know much about Bulbapedia and Serebii as far as their forums go, but I would guess that they aren't as casual or relaxed as this place is. And when you think about all the specialized forums then you can really expect casual fans to pick somewhere like PC.

Darkness appeals to a lot of people too!

Pokecommunity constantly grows because of the wide range of appeal that is available to people. There's pretty much something for anyone and everyone here and that variety brings in a lot of different kinds of people. The community itself is nice and friendly too which only augments the attract to this forum.

PkMnTrainer Yellow
June 28th, 2011, 10:26 AM
Let's see...

Features, features, and more features.

Pokecommunity has a ton of features for a forum. It's also fairly generous with avatar and signature sizes.

Speaking of signatures. Most forums, even ones using the exact same software as Pokecommunity, restrict the life out of signatures. Most sites only allow BBcode, and BBcode is essentially a very restricted set of HTML commands. Pokecommunity on the other hand has CSS. CSS is extremely powerful compared to BBcode and delivers a huge range of visual possibilities that aren't available elsewhere.

Some other reasons...

We have a lot of skins to choose from.

The site is--even with the exception of some tasteless OC topics, reasonably child friendly!
That includes being reasonably smut free. (Though I seem to recall a time when this wasn't always the case.)

The mods have a sense of self control, which unfortunately cannot be said for certain other pokemon forums.

We have a wide variety of boards that allows us to come here and do other things besides simply discuss pokemon.

People who want to be in communities at all usually prefer the bigger ones, so leader's advantage.

Also, Pokemon in and of itself. After having surfed the internet for way too long, I've noticed that Pokemon is absurdly popular among social net goers. Like, think of what you consider some extremely popular game besides pokemon. Now go try and find a forum for it. Now compare it to Pokecommunity. I'm willing to bet right here and now that Pokecommunity is the biggest forum dedicated to a single game series on the entire internet.

Speed
June 28th, 2011, 11:31 AM
Because of the variety of people here, and that there's so many different things to discuss on the forum.

Kenshin5
June 28th, 2011, 11:52 AM
It's a compilation of things for me. PC is on the top or 1st pages of many search engines, the site has been around so time establishing an already huge following, it is active I can go to every forum and see that it is highly to moderately active that is more then you can say about most forums where they have specific sub forums that go days upon days without posts, it has a plethora of skins/styles the users can choose from, it has plenty of features even for none Supporters, the community as a whole people see how the members and Staff conduct themselves and see that it is a community they want to be apart of, ROM Hacking this is honestly the biggest forum on the forums I see over a hundred users/guests browsing those forums alone on top of that I see many people in New Users forum that come here for ROM Hacking or something related to it.

The Prince of Sweet Sorrow
June 28th, 2011, 12:28 PM
I think it has to do with the age. Back when PC was made, there weren't so many Pokemon forums, and its name simplicity helped more and more people join.. so, someone with good judgment picked the best members to be mods...

if you get what I'm saying? It's just a hunch..

Mizan de la Plume Kuro
June 28th, 2011, 04:25 PM
It's kinda like come for the hacks, stay for the community sorta thing.
This put it more succinctly than I ever could.
My personal opinion is that PC somehow made a name for itself with ROM hacking, which, in itself, is a fairly big community online. After a while, the hackers who were linked to PC when studying the tools of the trade would inevitably explore other areas of the site, which, I don't need to say, were all equally amazing. You're sure to find your niche if you stick around long enough. As for me, I came here through ROM hacking, but when I got bored, I moved over to the F&W community, which is friendly, albeit not the most active one out there, sadly enough.

Sodom
June 28th, 2011, 04:41 PM
As for comparison to the other sites, Serebii and Bulbagarden, the main thing there is that they have a website. As good as that sounds that can be their downfall. i'm constantly on Bulbapedia but i've yet to go onto Bulbagarden forums, the same goes for Serebii. With PC its the forum or nothing. Not to mention PC have a nice feel to it. It's hard to explain but on S&B have very dark colour schemes which make me feel really uncomfortable and unwelcoming. PC is really warm and comfortable :3

I'd second this too. The PokeCommunity is more of an actual community than any of those other sites combined, whereas a lot of other places are just very down-to-business and don't care much for the actual people in the place.

As for the colour schemes, I'd definitely agree with that. I went on Serebii a few times (never joined) and found the constant green kind of ugly and off-putting. I haven't spent enough time there to judge accurately, but from what I've seen it seems like it's really just a forum and nothing more.

Amaruuk
June 28th, 2011, 04:44 PM
[css-span="font-family: "Tahoma"; font-size: 11px; color: #4b373d;"]As has been said to death already, I feel PC's success comes a lot from the warmth of the community. Here are people who are kind, fun, and memorable. It's also so very broad in many ways - the different boards, especially. I think this year I've finally stopped really caring about Pokemon, and yet here I am - still keeping tabs on the art/pixel art scene as well as contributing my thoughts to OVP and OC.

I think one of PC's strengths is not just to gain members, but to keep them for a very long time. I will have spent 7 years here myself come October. I also like that PC is ever-evolving. It grows with you. New features, new activities, new people; PC is alive with forward momentum. :3[/css-span]

twocows
June 28th, 2011, 06:18 PM
Obviously it's because people just can't get enough of me.

Yeah, you all know you love it.

FreakyLocz14
June 28th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Well, the fact that we are the first thing listed when one Googles "Pokemon Forum" helps.

Ninja Caterpie
June 29th, 2011, 02:18 AM
I think, actually, that PokeCommunity holds one of (if not THE) largest english ROM Hacking community on the internet. That's pretty impressive.

Also, PC has so much... stuff. I mean, just look at the sections! There's so much stuff, and everything has so much activity apart from Tabletop Games. It has everything and more, most of it not even necessarily Pokemon-related. I mean, once you leave your home section where you first start, there's so much content here you're pretty much stuck forever.

Vrai
June 29th, 2011, 03:22 AM
I think that you could probably compress it all into the community in general, forum skins, and the availability of sections like ROM Hacking and Game Development that those other forums just don't have. We've got a lot of unique things like a not-awful forum design (more or less the reason why I never joined Serebii), wonderful people & community for the most part, and just ROM Hacking in general - very few other forums would run such a section. PC is basically the authority on PKMN ROM Hacking, just because it's the place where mostly everyone who does it gathers.

Careful With That Axe, Pichu!
June 29th, 2011, 04:32 AM
I believe PC's success lies on the fact that we actually are a community. We're not just another message board; there is a lot of depth and variety of discussion here. People actually make efforts to welcome and know each other, talk with each other and make bonds outside of the forum. PC organizes a lot of events to keep people going from the Get Togethers to lesser ideas such as competitions (Poet of the Week, Review Contests, etc.) many of which we can attribute to the staff. For one I know that what makes a staff member great is his/her adhesion and preoccupation for the well-being of the community.

Also, PC is very big on hacks, and also serves as a meeting point for fellow Pokémon players. People can get really good strategic advice and help on the games here, meet people who they can battle with and trade Pokémon, and share other Pokémon interests like fan-fiction.

Pokémon aside, it's also a great place to showcase talent and to talk about anything in general.

So yeah, there are a LOT of reasons for the success of the PokéCommunity. :P

Stash
June 29th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Well, the fact that we are the first thing listed when one Googles "Pokemon Forum" helps.

This.

And.

Also, this has to be the most well-moderated, accurately and carefully mitigated and troll-free entertainment forum out there. You cannot really compare the juvenile and immature users in certain forums to the users in this site, and I've only really logged in here a handful of times. Adding to that, forums and sub-forums such as the Emulation section which attracts a plethora of users somehow, making PokeCommunity THE most prominent ROM hacking community on the Internet.

At least that's what I have seen so far.

A Pixy
June 29th, 2011, 12:40 PM
The hacking community, more specifically Shiny Gold.

Not to mention it's just a super cool forum.

Azure Rathalδs
June 29th, 2011, 12:50 PM
It's pretty much a combination of all of the other Pokemon forums, plus it also has a huge hacking community. It's also the most eye-catching that the eye murdering blacks of Serribi.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
July 4th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Every time I come on this Forum and look into the Emulating and Game Developer's section, it always has the most amount of people so that could be a main reason why PokeCommunity is so successful. Another reason why PC can be successful is because of the Trading Corner and the Battling corner as well because many people now sign up on this website for those features too.


:t354:TG

G.U.Y.
July 4th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Well, the staff not being a bunch of trolls like SPPF was a huge factor in me joining.

RHIOneAlbum
July 4th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Most staff are nice
I think a big thing is when the old ROM hacking communities like M3I died a few years ago then came here. Thats really the biggest factor as around 1/3 of PC is affiliated in some way with ROM hacking. And a lot of the older communities died around the same time, and so, viola, you get PC as the king of Pokemon hacking and one of the big three forums for Pokemon
Along with serebi and bulba

LightOfTruth
July 5th, 2011, 01:13 PM
1. Get-Togethers
2. Rom Hacking
3. Good Staff
4. Forum on the latest game
5. The Extras

NatureKeeper
July 10th, 2011, 04:45 AM
Manipulation has quit being a mod.

It has the largest community for Pokémon, so more and more people join. If people started going to another website, PC will be dead, and no more people will join.

moments.
July 10th, 2011, 05:26 AM
For me, and definitely for a lot of the people out there, it has a lot of variety. Obviously, I'd assume nearly everybody who joins, does so because they are interested in Pokemon. But I think the variety is what maintains the numbers high, even as demographics move on from Pokemon.

For example, I came here for Pokemon, and whilst here I discovered graphics and tags and whatnot and began to do that. Nowadays, I literally am ONLY here for the Graphics and Photography section. Did it no exist, as is the case with a majority of Pokemon forums, I would have left here long ago.

So the age and everything is what gets people to join, but the variety, for my money is why we all stay.

The Nightmare
July 10th, 2011, 07:53 PM
I think it might be the look of the forums that attract members to join and also rom hacks you can download to try them out.

Alinthea
July 11th, 2011, 02:57 AM
I think the good thing is that there isn't only one aspect of PC that people like, there are a couple.

For me, I stay for the people and my board, but there are other things that I like to do every so often.

wcdaily
July 11th, 2011, 09:32 PM
PC was built to be a community, the other sites were built to be more. That's the key difference and I like it that way.

stella
July 16th, 2011, 11:05 AM
While Serebii was the first place I joined in 2004, when my interest in Pokemon started dwindling, there weren't any other places there I felt I could post at. Now I'm back into Pokemon but that place is way too restricting (no custom avatars, no hacks that make forum things easier, etc). The whole atmosphere of the place is not as friendly as this forum.

I registered here in 2007 but didn't post much. I actually like this place better than Serebii. One big thing being the skins, but also because I can talk about things other than Pokemon 24/7. That was a big turn off for Serebii. I even find the ROM hacking boards interesting because it allows people to be creative and achieve something. I have never seen so many creative threads in my life. xD I'm registered at Bulbagarden too and I also like that place better than Serebii. PokéCommunity seems to cater to all age groups and Bulba seems to be for a lot of older fans. That's just the vibe I get from it.

Nuke
July 16th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Originally, I just joined probably because it was the first pokemon forum that came up.

I think a lot of people stick around because of the intelligent discussions and the generally nice community in the off-topic sections though. My last pokemon related post was probably months ago but I'm still here.

Melody
July 16th, 2011, 09:08 PM
Well, PC itself is great for all of the above reasons enumerated in previous posts.

A few of those are:
1. Great webmaster/mistress(s/es). Seriously, Steve knows what he's doing. So does Jake, Andy, Audy, Jess and the rest of the admins.
2. Staff listens. While they may SEEM like a cliquey bunch (and they really aren't like that if you bother to try to understand them), they do try their hardest to listen to the wants and needs of the members. New blood is recruited into the staff on a regular basis. They even pay heed to cranky old members like me, when I'm not taking the cranky vet thing over the top. You don't have to be an admin or a mod to change things around here. You just have to be loud enough. :3
3. Welcoming. You can't find a more welcoming place on the internet. It's so well moderated, policed and integrated as a community that there's room for everyone, no matter how big or small your ego is. :P
4. Features. Many, many forums are excruciatingly miserly with features. PC isn't, and it goes above and beyond even the base forum software code to provide more enjoyment and entertainment to it's users.
5. Maturity. PC isn't just for kids. PC grows up with you, it evolves with you, it even accommodates adult discussion without losing it's "Kid-friendly" atmosphere these days. It is still haven to even the oldest of members, who may still have lives but can find time to visit. It's so wonderful that you WANT to make time for it, even as an adult.
6. Variety. PC isn't hidebound, nor does it require you to talk about only Pokemon. It accommodates a wide range of topics from a-z excluding explicit ones. That makes for a civilized discussion usually and works well.


In short, PC just works. It rivals Facebook without being Facebook. It is original, diverse and generally is like a huge mall, there isn't anything you CAN'T find in it. XD

Masqueraine
July 16th, 2011, 09:11 PM
i dunno, the other major pokemon sites seem to have more posts and users on daily. i think people on pc are inclined to say pc is better because of pride and the fact that pc seems to function as peoples lives while the other pokemon forums are just pokemon forums.

Hikamaru
July 16th, 2011, 09:29 PM
When I got banned from Bulbagarden, I had to find a new home for my Pokemon forum life so I came across PokeCommunity and they are the best cos they are customizable, unique and a large database of users.

Plus there's friend requesting, which reminds me of Facebook.