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shenanigans
August 31st, 2011, 05:56 AM
Imagine you've been made a moderator in your preferred PokéCommunity section, or elsewhere on the internet. How would you go about doing your job? Would you be a very harsh mod or mainly stick to verbal warnings? Would you try to change the way certain aspects of your section (or the community as a whole) works? How quick would you be to infract members for breaking the rules? Would you be very formal and business-like or relaxed and friendly?

For existing moderators, answer these with respect to how you moderate now.

Forever
August 31st, 2011, 06:09 AM
It really depends on what the issue is. Harsh let's see, I try to lock threads -nicely- that belong in Quick Questions and I know the answer to, and as for threads that belong in other sections I need to link to I try to be nice then too lol. BUT. When it comes to character bypass which happens surprisingly a lot in B/W, because it's intentional bypass (spacing to bypass) I infract for that, since the people know what they're doing. Same goes for if people partially censor the really bad words. As for spam I only infract if it's constant and adbots I kill off as soon as I get to them. Most of the time I just delete posts and leave it really, or if it's a thread; make a post suggesting what direction the topic should go and edit the thread title accordingly. But really, formal/business, idk. In infractions I'm really formal as I noticed but overall I try to come off as friendly, soo. Aaand I think that's all I deal with in B/W?

As for changing the way my section works, yeah I've done that a few times by the limiting discussion threads etc with Kaori back in March.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 31st, 2011, 06:24 AM
I would go about in the middle route as in friendly but not too friendly then I wouldn't be doing my job and I'll be taken advantage of.
Things I'll change...I would add more disscussion on subjects if it allowed.
As for the infractions, it would depend on what they did, if it seemed like they spammed on purpose I'll be quick to delete the post and give them a warning, second time infaction, fourth time ban...

Kevin
August 31st, 2011, 06:42 AM
Hm... I'd probably be a straight-forward moderator. Not rude, but still serious about the job. Let's say a thread gets locked by me... I'd probably just say "Don't revive month-old threads. *Locked*" and hope that doesn't look mean or anything.

And for visitor messages and stuff I'll still be friendly (well at least as I am right now) so yeah...

As for infractions and the like I'd probably stick with warnings... I wouldn't want to abuse power but if it's too major I'll be forced to infract someone.

So I guess I'd be friendly but still serious at the same time... That could work, right? XD

Shiny Celebi
August 31st, 2011, 07:19 AM
If I was a moderator I would try to be fair. I would want to be a friendly mod that is eager to help the other members with whatever they need and the same with the other staff. If I didnt know the answer to a question someone asked Id find out. Id take my job seriously, maintaining my section and contribute to the discussion in the threads with the other members too. I wouldnt be heavy on the infractions, trying to warn rather then infract and only when I felt it was absolutely nessesary. Id try to be formal too when I must.

Gold warehouse
August 31st, 2011, 09:58 AM
I'd be super lax; strict rules annoy me, all it does is limit how fun it is. This is meant to be a place to relax, not write a serious essay all the time. Imo, only thing that warrants an infraction is being straight up rude or posting constant spam/BS.

Oryx
August 31st, 2011, 10:05 AM
Yeah, I don't think I'd be a rough mod. I'd probably give 3 warnings at least to a single person about a continual problem before infracting them, just because things happen, sometimes people forget rules. I know I've broken rules accidentally in the past myself.

I feel like I post enough around the site, and I still would as a mod, that I don't think anyone would see me as "Mod Toujours", more like "Toujours (who happens to be a mod)", so I would definitely come off as friendly imo. Except for in OC because I'm opinionated

Guy
August 31st, 2011, 10:13 AM
Normally I tend to be very lax when handling any sort of issue on here, whether it be locking a thread, moving it, and so on; I'm very lean too. I don't infract for everything and it's normally not the first thing I go about doing when I have to handle someone's error. I usually talk with them first, and then if they continue I go with an infraction. Only if they're deliberately causing trouble will I give them a yellow warning or infraction depending on how bad the situation is and how many times they've done it before.

I'm not really formal though. If you look at most of my locks I sometimes tend to play around or am just really nice when closing a thread. Deleting posts I try to make fun when I can by sometimes giving a witty reason, but still making the reason clear enough to understand. I might only be a bit formal when I'm talking over something serious with someone and I want them to know I'm not joking, but other than that, I'm just very lax.

I see my role on PC as a privilege and benefit of enhanced enjoyment on the forum. I don't try to look at it as some sort of job or else what's the fun in that?

As for how I would take charge of my forum, well, let's just say I've always been a hands on person and I'm always looking for ways of improvement. When I was modding the HG/SS forum with bobandbill and I, together we worked on revamping all the stickies. As for the discussion there, there's not a lot of you can do to change it other than make sure everyone and everything stays in line. However, when I was put to mod Pokémon Anime, I'd like to say I was part of some major changes that took place in that forum.

Noah Ridgewood
August 31st, 2011, 10:49 AM
I think I'm very formal, and that gives me the impression that I'm strict. In most cases, I'm not in any way strict, especially when compared to other staff members. I'm very lax, very understanding, and I try my best to make sure that I'm approachable and relatable when dealing with issues.

When I deal with issues like spamming (unless it's excessive) and bypassing the censor (unless it's disrespecting someone), I tend to delete the problem most of the time and leave. I rarely infract people these days. In the past, when I was first made a mod, I would look for a reason to do something mod-like, mainly because I was modding an inactive forum and wanted something to do. Over time, I started doing that less and less. These days, if you get an infraction for me, it's justified. In fact, to put that in perspective, the only times I tend to infract people is if they're being disrespectful or they're trolling someone. Out of all the infractions, those are the only ones I care about.

I also do my best to be an outlet of sorts. If someone sends me something that needs attention, I'll give it attention. If I can't do anything, I'll forward it to the proper people. If someone reports misconduct to me, I'll look into it and discuss it with the appropriate people.

The 100 Mega Shock
August 31st, 2011, 10:51 AM
Delete every single post and ban all the users.

Miss Doronjo
August 31st, 2011, 11:05 AM
When modding, I'm more laid back than strict about it; when locking threads; I try to be as nice as I can about it as well as give them future advice on where to post threads such as the one I've locked, etc. I dunno; sometimes I feel I'm just a little too judgmental, which I'm honestly trying to grasp on each person's side of the story. I guess its because I feel I'm not very comfortable bieng a mod yet, but fine; I want people to know if there's anything that's wrong with the way I mod, or if I'm being unfair, just tell me; I promise I won't bite. :3

Arcanine
August 31st, 2011, 01:15 PM
When someone gets an infraction from me (and that's very rare) it depends on a few factors.
~ Have they been warned before? If so then I'll likely give an infraction because after that warning (doesn't matter if it's breaking the character limit) they should have read the PC rules. If they care enough then they should have taken the time to read the rules.
~ Have they been here awhile or have a good number of posts? If so then again I'll give an infraction. Because you can't claim ignorance to the rules if you've been here for 6 months, or have high number of posts. You're going to tell me that you didn't take the time to read the PC rules or read the forum rules? I can sort of understand if it's a forum they never go to and it's their first time posting in there... but still if you're breaking a main forum rule and you've been here for awhile... you'll get an infraction from me.

As for locking vs deleting... I'll lock a thread and keep it there as an example for other members. Also if a thread/post is deleted the member might ask what happened to their thread/post and will repost the thread/post (since I don't do much Mod work, nor do I delete I don't know how often this comes up).


Over the years I've went from being easy on the members, then harsh, then easy, harsh, and so on. Now I guess I'm sort of in the middle and I really don't care if someone gets mad at me because they got an infraction when they haven't gotten a single warning. I do what I see is right and if it's that big a deal or that big a prob then one of the SAs will come along and overrule me and I'm ok with that as well.

Ephemeral Euphoria
August 31st, 2011, 01:20 PM
If I was a mod I'd do my best to be understanding of the community and their respective problems at the time when it came to the forums but also to look at the whole picture and be able to decide if anyone was in the wrong or not without a bias getting in the way of my judgment at the time.

Basically, fair enough to take into account what the situation may be at the time but unshakable for the most part when it came to my final verdict on a respective matter.

Mr Cat Dog
August 31st, 2011, 01:38 PM
As much as other mods have said that they're lax, I could definitely give them a run for their money. It's mainly because C&M is one of the more relaxed forums, and a hard-line stance on everything would just make people resent posting in there. In terms of infracting people, I've only given three out (and only one of those being a red card): you have to be reeeeeeeeeeeally annoying to get something out of me. Normally I'll send a PM outlining areas of improvement, but sometimes I won't do that.

When I do have to do something, like lock or move a thread, I'm quite formal, however. For the most part, I'll explain the error and maybe offer a solution (like posting it in a different forum, checking the rules etc) so that members won't make the same mistake again. A little bit of wit might seep through, but it's becoming an increasing rarity, unfortunately.

TheEvilDookie
August 31st, 2011, 01:42 PM
I would treat it as any other responsibility. That is to say leading with a firm yet gentle hand if you know what I mean. No, I'm not making a dirty joke. e_e

Nox Masque
August 31st, 2011, 01:44 PM
I've been told that in regards to controlling things, I'm organised and efficient- as well as harsh, Nazi-like and very unforgiving. So I suppose I'd make an overall bad mod because if I were, I think half of the community would end up banned within a week... I'd have a lot of fun, however.

Truality
August 31st, 2011, 01:57 PM
I have an immeasurable amount of patience, and currently being a global mod on a very large site, I know it makes a very good plus. However, I like to keep a good mix of humor and helping tendency in my responces. On PC, a section I'd love to mod is Pixel Art, and I would try my best to reorganize some things about it and bring more attention to that section. In fact, I'll try to do this as I am now via suggestions

I wouldn't be completely strict, but not lax as wax either. Especially when I'd see a member breaking the rules while it's obvious that they are aware of their actions and enjoying it at the same time. In other words, I like to have a balanced set of actions. After all, moderating can be both fun and hard on the one having it, as well. Oh, and one more thing; personally, I try to spend more a lot more time online on the site where I mod-naturally-than when I just browse it as a normal member.

jvpski3
August 31st, 2011, 02:01 PM
YEAH, not harsh. Cheerful :) I am a veteran moderator, SO CLOSE to a admin.

Crimson5M
August 31st, 2011, 02:42 PM
First couple of times, I'd just delete the post, or lock the thread, and tell the user what they did wrong. If it happens a third time, I would warn them that if they carry on, they would have an infraction coming their way. If they carry on...well, yeah. I'm honestly not a very strict person, and I believe that people should be given another chance, until it just goes to far that they're really just asking for trouble. Small things like character limit bypass and generic, SPAMmy replies aren't worth an infraction straight off the bat; especially if they're a new member. So yeah I'ma nice guy, blah blah, vote me for president.

Alli
August 31st, 2011, 03:31 PM
Higher staff would never mod me. I'd be so terrible. But if I were a mod of say, General Pokemon Gaming Discussions, I'd probably be pretty lax, till things got crazy. Infractions wouldn't come too often, unless it was for major or repetitive offenses. It'd probably piss me off if the same rules were constantly getting broken, or if people were posting threads in the wrong section, so then I'd post announcements that would, of course, get ignored. As for changing things, I think it's run pretty well right now thanks to that one guy that's modding it right now (I forgot his username, but his theme is hot). Also, formal is just not my style, unless absolutely necessary, which I'm sure would be a rare case in its own. But that's all I gotta say about if I was a mod...

Xyrin
August 31st, 2011, 03:32 PM
I would totally be lax. What I do on my forum. All you need to do is PM a guy and say "Hey. You broke a rule and here's how you fix it" unless it's something like disrespect or trolling. Then you infract or warn them. No need to infract for everything.

Sammi
August 31st, 2011, 03:35 PM
Uh, I'm another one of those people who's really relaxed. Hell, even when I'm yelling at people I feel so informal about it. (When I'm not making myself look stupid anyway. XD) I don't really want to come off as some strict person, because tbh that's not really what I am. The last thing I want is for members to go "omg that forum's modded by a real meanie and I never want to post there."

I'm an awfully forgiving person; I've never been the kind of person to give warnings/infractions unless they reaaaaally have it coming. I'd rather talk things over and try to get them to learn before jumping the gun and leaving something on their record. For the most part I usually just delete the offending post and hope they notice.

To be honest, I'm probably not helping change OVP for the better as much as I should. So far the biggest thing I've done is re-start Poll of the Week (and I took forever doing so...). I guess I also re-did rules but it wasn't that exciting. *shrugs* It's not that I don't want to; I care about OVP and don't like seeing it dead. It's just that I'm not good with ideas. D:

Seki
August 31st, 2011, 07:17 PM
I will be friendly to those who abide to the rules and harsh to those who don't abide to the rules.

Kenshin5
August 31st, 2011, 07:35 PM
Depends on the type of offensive, length they have been here, the forum the offensive occurred in.

Warning somebody for something that is minute just seems overboard. Too me before I do anything I would look at their user history. Do they have prior warnings or infractions, if they do then are they over the same thing that is in question at the moment. Then to proceed to either lock(pending the topic is dead or gets way off topic or delete the post and detail what they did wrong and what they can do to correct and build about that they messed up with).

I mean sure you could warn somebody for piddly things but that's not going to teach them to adjust their actions any more then it would if you just gave them a verbal warning telling them "You did this in violation of said rule, so refrain from repeating said action in the future" That's all it takes no warn no infraction. Now if it's blatant trolling, flaming, or flame baiting then that seems to be a different story.

As for how I would conduct myself seems pretty simple. Do the job set out. I would be there to essentially maintain order, so I would lay down the law in accordance to the rules. I would probably come off quite generic and robotic about it at times. Else where I try and make it as interpersonal as possible, because it is not my job to let emotion slur my ruling on a matter.

Like Machiavelli said "It's better to be loved then feared" so do you want to be a ruler that is loved or one that is feared? It seems like two extremes and most staff probably strive for a middle ground or at least I do. I wouldn't want to be a push over, but then again there is no reason to be a complete hardass to get the point across.

Kairi
August 31st, 2011, 07:47 PM
Locking threads is easy (although back in the day we were way too kneejerk with the power). Participating in your forum, finding the real issues, and reviving it (if need be) is so much harder and more abstract. But we need it! That's why they tend to hire for a forum based on activity in it. If you can think of a particular forum that has a distinct feel, chances are it has a pretty active mod.

I tried really hard to do that for every single forum on the site, and I got burned out pretty bad. Once you get to the smod+ status, your focus does need to shift away from individual forums. I'm still not convinced we need that many higher staff, though.

Melody
August 31st, 2011, 07:55 PM
If I were mod, I'd probably close/delete and politely VM once or twice first, depending on how new or experienced the user is. Then the warning shot and finally the big red.

Astinus
August 31st, 2011, 08:00 PM
I guess I could say that I'm a pretty relaxed moderator. I never hand out warnings/infractions, since I do employ a three-strike method, and people tend to get why their post was deleted (which is the biggest offense in FF&W, for posts that aren't constructive criticism). I'm very relaxed when it comes to doing anything else for mod work, since trying to be harsh stressed me out too much. So I just sit back and watch over things in my section and step in when need be, but I'm not really harsh.

I have changed FF&W in the time I've been modded. Merged it, changed the rules, got rid of old activities and threads, and got the new community of members in that section involved.

God
August 31st, 2011, 09:32 PM
damnit i was hoping this thread would be a showcase of LOOK AT ME I COULD BE A GOOD MOD ONE DAY JUST GIVE ME A CHANCE LOOK HOW GOOD I COULD BE

In my head, I'd think I was a super cool mad who upheld the sanctity of said forum and everyone loved me im the jesus of moderators etc but in reality, I'd definitely be biased and too lax on the rules. Even worse, I'd probably commit the unforgivable sin of locking threads without a funny anecdote oh mary please forgive me hail mary x1000.

PlatinumDude
September 1st, 2011, 02:14 AM
Depending on the situation, I'd be harsh to anyone who really breaks the rules. For example, one of my main sections is the Competitive Battling Center. If someone doesn't follow the right format for posting a team, then I close the thread and tell them to re-do it with the right format. If they can't, I'd move the thread to the in-game team section and re-open it.

mondays suck
September 1st, 2011, 03:58 AM
I'd probably be a relatively lax mod, who'd only close or move threads if they're completely, and I mean completely, out of place and only punish the worst kinds of offenses, like insults or severe spam. I don't know, I just like that kind of forum climate. I guess I could say I think that moderation is best used in moderation.

Drew
September 1st, 2011, 08:49 PM
Yeah, I don't think I'd be a rough mod. I'd probably give 3 warnings at least to a single person about a continual problem before infracting them, just because things happen, sometimes people forget rules. I know I've broken rules accidentally in the past myself.

Pretty much this.

That's more or less how I used to mod New Users / Welcome.

I had a 'three strikes' method if the rule they broke wasn't very severe. Also because I was dealing with newbies, and rarely do people read the rules once and never break any of them, most people have to learn from their mistakes. So I'd warn them up to three times, and then infract them if they still didn't get it. > >; If they blatantly seemed to ignore the rules, or their offense was bad enough, then they'd get a straight infraction.

Even though I'm not bound to NU/W anymore, it still use the same methods when dealing with users are newer to the community. If you're an olbie with 1,000+ posts, who should know the rules by now, then I just infract. :D /shot

Jack O'Neill
September 1st, 2011, 09:14 PM
Leaving aside the sheer absurdity of me being a moderator here, I would be harsh, but ultimately fair. There is no bias here. I do not look down on newbies, and I do not give special consideration to veterans or staff. As far as I'm concerned, they're all equally worthless. You break the rules, you get infracted. Simple as that.

The Corrupt Plague
September 2nd, 2011, 12:03 AM
There would be little to no chance of me ever becoming one unless somebody decided to pull a prank or something since I'm pretty low on the food chain. Still, if I ever did become one I would try to keep order without ruling with an iron fist. This means that I wouldn't be handing out infractions like candy and instead calmly tell them in a PM to knock it off. If the disruptive behavior persists, they get the infraction. Of course, I would make exceptions for spambots and kill them with fire.

Montgomery
September 2nd, 2011, 02:38 PM
I've known a number of moderators on different forums who, after being promoted to staff, promised to be flexible and lax. They did for a while, then they were rude, unforgiving and impatient, rendering the members calling them 'jerks'. This surreal authority changes a person.

My answer would be stick with rules and punish whoever breaks them. Simple as that.

Captain Hobo.
September 3rd, 2011, 10:53 AM
Well, I am on staff on other forums and I am pretty easy going:)

flight
September 3rd, 2011, 11:05 AM
I'd honestly be kind of a firm moderator. I'd hate being strict, if anything, so yeah, I'd actually be more relaxed at the same time. xD Probably way more relaxed then I should be. I would very rarely give out infractions unless it was a repeated offense and well...hardly give out warnings as well. If anything, verbal warnings work just as effectively before the actual yellow card is given out. :x

I also imagine myself closing threads and leaving a funny joke as my closing posts. :D; Humour is usually my thing and I go about trying my best to raise the mood when it comes to things, so yeah. n__n

Ayselipera
September 3rd, 2011, 11:25 AM
UMM. I think I was lax as a moderator. I usually just pointed out what was wrong about whatever they did and left it at that and only then gave out a warning if they kept doing it. I always felt like I was nice about it too, so sorry if anyone took what I said as mean because it wasn't!!!

Anywayyyy, idk sometimes I question why there are so many rules here or anywhere on the internet. I feel like the internet should be my passage way into doing whatever I feel like, but yet I'm faced with a bunch of rules here and there.

Yoshikko
September 3rd, 2011, 12:08 PM
It really depends, but overall I think I wouldn't really be that harsh. There are some situations though where being harsh is necessary, and I can be very strict, and in those cases it's definitely how I would act. But mostly, I'd try to be friendly, but still disciplined, because I think that making a mistake is okay, it just needs to be mentioned, but when someone is intentionally breaking the rules, it's a whole different story because then they are doing it for the sake of breaking a rule, and if all is well, they know the consequences.

Ausaudriel
September 3rd, 2011, 02:04 PM
Imagine you've been made a moderator in your preferred PokéCommunity section, or elsewhere on the internet. How would you go about doing your job? Would you be a very harsh mod or mainly stick to verbal warnings? Would you try to change the way certain aspects of your section (or the community as a whole) works? How quick would you be to infract members for breaking the rules? Would you be very formal and business-like or relaxed and friendly?

For existing moderators, answer these with respect to how you moderate now.
I'm probably one of the most lenient on PC, I'd say. I very VERY rarely give out warnings/yellow cards, let alone actual infractions. Typically if someone breaks the rules I'll just edit/delete the post and then send them a PM or a VM explaining what they did wrong. I find they're usually more receptive to that kind of hand-holding than just throwing an infraction at them--a lot of times that'll scare them into not wanting to participate on the forums anymore.

As for rules/inner workings, when I modded Other Voting Polls I originally kept Sammi's rules in tact. They'd been primarily the same for as long as the section existed and I wanted to get a better feel for the section before I changed anything. After I'd modded for a couple of months I went and modified the rules a bit, and added stuff about knowing the difference between an OC and and OVP threads. I'm pretty sure some of what I've written is still in the stickies. 8) Ironically Sammi now mods it again haha.

-Jared-
September 3rd, 2011, 04:35 PM
I probably would be pretty lenient. Mainly, if I saw an issue, I would contact the person responsible, and respectfully explain to them what they did wrong. If they responded respectfully, than I would let them off without any punishment, because they would probably seem repentant.

If they were disrespectful however, I would keep an eye on them, but I wouldn't immediately infract them for subsequent incidents. I would still try to reason with them, but after a while, I would probably infract them for incessant rule breaking. But I would definitely give plenty of chances.

RetroRoller
September 3rd, 2011, 06:50 PM
If I was a moderator, I would be friendly when inducing punishments like infractions, but if there is a user who has been around on PC for a while, and should have the knowledge not to... say... revive month old threads, I would just bluntly tell them not to revive month old threads. Obviously, repeated offenses would spark my meaner side and I would INFRACT THEM INTO NEXT WEEK! Just kidding, but repeat offenses are always annoying, you know what I'm talking about, right guys?

I would also not take kindly to backchat or disrespect. I would obviously handle someone calling me 'gay' or 'homo' on PC with strictness, but because I am actually a homosexual, seeing 'gay' used in that way does annoy me, but you gotta keep your cool and treat it like any other mod would, right? :)

Stormbringer
September 3rd, 2011, 07:04 PM
I feel I'd be more lenient if Other Chat wasn't a trollpit when I inherited it last December. I tend to be strict. As far as I'm concerned, the rules should provide you everything you need and they suffice as a warning.

moments.
September 3rd, 2011, 11:00 PM
Were I mod of Graphics and Photography my home, and given that it isn't a massively active forum so I don't need to rushing around deleting posts, locking threads and stuff, I'd take my time and be sort of explain everything. None of those, "not enough words/examples. Locked." I'd try and give the person some insight into what they did wrong and how they can fix it.

Then again, me being me, and me being a neat freak / formal layout person, I'd probably come off as strict and stuff, when I would never slap around infractions for anything. But yeah, formal, but friendly I guess. :D

Blue Nocturne
September 4th, 2011, 07:17 AM
I'd probably be quite strict and I wouldn't be surprised if I come off as rude. However, I'd imagine that I'd be awfully informal about it all, mixing telling people they've been infracted with little tidbits about my cats Luke and Amelia.

aRedMoon
September 7th, 2011, 11:47 PM
I was the best mod EVER. Haha.

I'm a much more "Live and let live" type of mod, where I might close or move something, but I'm never really harsh about it. It's like, geez, people make mistakes too.

Some of the mods now make me sad cuz they don't care about the realness :'\

Pokemon Trainer Touko
September 8th, 2011, 12:11 AM
I'd be pretty lax and laid back and will probably be un-modded the next day 'cause I'm far too lazy to be a moderator. ='D

LightOfTruth
September 8th, 2011, 09:38 AM
If I was a moderator I would approve or deny threads in Hack Showcase and Progressing Hacks :)