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Captain Fabio
August 31st, 2011, 11:27 PM
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I NEVER WILL...

This has always been an interesting phrase that I have heard on this community. 'Never have drank and I never will...' is an example, no I am not referring to one person on the forum, a lot of people say it.

I have always wondered, how do you know that you will never do what you say? Granted, if it is something in the extreme, then I understand, but normal, everyday things like alcoholic drinks, people say they have never touched them and will never touch them. Not to be condescending, but most people saying that are way under the drinking age anyway. I am not having a rant, I am just interested as to why people say it.

More importantly, let's not stray from the original question and not get drawn to one type of example.
So, if you have said the 'Never will...' phrase, how do you know?[css-div="clear:right"][/css-div]

Truality
September 1st, 2011, 01:47 AM
Yeah, I've used that phrase whenever I'm asked if I smoke. Unless someone drugs me and forces me to, I won't smoke. Nope, I've set a principle in my life, and a part of it is to 'never smoke'. It disgusts me. I wouldn't even try to know how it tastes.

Therefore I'm confident in this phrase, about this matter. I've survived until my 20th year without any temptation to smoke, what makes you think I won't keep it up?

PlatinumDude
September 1st, 2011, 02:11 AM
I know when to say "I never will" when I don't really want to do something (like learning a new language).

CrazyShooter
September 1st, 2011, 02:34 AM
When I am asked by Derry "Will you ever stop being so annoying?" this is my answer "Never have stopped, never will". Everyone who knows me knows that that is the correct answer to Derry's question.

mondays suck
September 1st, 2011, 03:50 AM
Pretty much like Truality, this is my opinion on smoking. As a child, long before I knew about the health and monetary consequences, I decided that I hate the smell and am never going to smoke. Not even my former love interest could get me to change that opinion, all she achieved when she and some others decided to smoke at her birthday party slightly over 1½ years ago was to disgust me. This might or not be one of the reasons why we never became more than just friends and eventually even stopped being that and by now haven't talked at all for over half a year, but it was worth it. So, now, with 19, I still am the radical non-smoker I always wanted to be as a child. Nice to know I achieved at least that in life.

Can't think of another occassion I used the phrase. Maybe drugs. Unlike tobacco, they do have something fascinating about them, so I'm not sure if I would be as stubborn if I'd have the opportunity to try them. I better should, though.

Katholic Nun
September 1st, 2011, 04:15 AM
omg Fabio, this is totally about me isn't it?

I'm going to stick to the alcohol example because I was one of the people in those threads that said I will never drink - however I've been legally allowed to drink for nearly three years.

The simple answer to your question is: I don't know. I have no idea what the future holds, I don't have psychic powers and my crystal ball has gone missing. But what I do know is that I don't drink and I have my reasons for that, and I don't have any intention to drink in the future. So while it is possible that one day I'll wake up with a hankering to try beer or whiskey, I'm fairly confident in saying that I'll never drink. It's just not something I'm interested in.

Ephemeral Euphoria
September 1st, 2011, 04:19 AM
I did a little bit of smoking and drinking back when I was younger but I absolutely hated the stuff at the time.

As for other stuff though, well I can't make any promises since I don't know what my future holds.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
September 1st, 2011, 05:32 AM
I use it when I'm asked if I've ever smoked, done drugs, had a pet, or owned any type of small import car. Because I'm confident that I will do none of the above. The pet thing is out of the question because of my awful allergies to them, and the small import car is a no because I just don't roll that way.

Kevin
September 1st, 2011, 06:31 AM
If asked about drugs/alcohol, I know I will never because I never get tempted, and I never fall for other people's tricks. Plus I myself never want to do that stuff anyway.

Ctrl.Alt.Geak
September 1st, 2011, 06:32 AM
My friends used to always say that they would never drink, only one of them has stuck to her word.
As for me, the one thing I have always said I will never do is have kids. I might sound like a jerk, but I just cant stand kids at all.

Esper
September 1st, 2011, 07:34 AM
When someone says "I will never _______" they don't literally mean it will never happen. What they mean is that it is something that goes against something fundamental to their views and their image of themselves at that moment, and that they wish it would never happen. It's a kind of reinforcing mantra, a kind of positive reinforcement.

So like with me. I say things like "I will never smoke" and "I will never get drunk" because I don't want to do these things and if I didn't try to take a firm stance I think my ability to resist temptation wouldn't be as strong and I'd loose respect for myself.

Sammi
September 1st, 2011, 12:12 PM
To be honest, these days there aren't many things I'll say I'll never do. As I've gotten older, I've realized that my opinions change, and some things I vowed to never do, I've eventually done. Like at one point in time I said I'd never get drunk and now I love to do it when opportunity arises. -_-;

Right now, the only thing I want to stick to is that I'll never smoke. But that's because I know if I start I'll never stop. We all die, but the health consequences of smoking are pretty bad and I'd like to avoid them.

Brendino
September 1st, 2011, 12:28 PM
The only two things that I know for a fact I will never do is smoke or give birth, the first is just because I can't even breathe when I go around people that do, so I wouldn't even think about doing it myself. The second is because, well, I'm a male (doesn't mean I won't have kids in the future, though). I've also said in the past that I'll never drink, but in all honesty, if I do than I do, but if I don't, I'm not going feel like I'm missing out.

Sweet Candace
September 1st, 2011, 12:31 PM
I will never smoke, I just hate it. Although I'm fine with my grandfather and my other relatives who smoke, I just don't want to throw my life away because of it.

shenanigans
September 1st, 2011, 02:37 PM
I absolutely hate it when people say "never have, never will" because yeah you can't tell if it's going to be true or not. A couple of years ago I'd have said "I will never touch any form of drug, not even marijuana" but that didn't work out so well and tbh I can't imagine anything else working either. You can't tell the future, and you can't tell your future self. Saying "I will never" is just saying "I hope I don't" or "I don't think I want to" but trying to make yourself sound more spur srs.

Mr. X
September 1st, 2011, 03:05 PM
I never going to smoke tobacco.

I'd say that i'd never smoke at all, but I smoke a joint once a year. And yes, their is a story behind this.

Tomandgreen
September 1st, 2011, 03:43 PM
It's an expression meaning I hope I never will, and it's a promise to ones self to make sure you don't do the thing you don't ever want to do. Like I never will smoke, or do drugs. Not only do I hope those are true, but they currently are, and being 17, I think I can stick to it!

Saryka
September 1st, 2011, 04:01 PM
I try to be careful with the phrase "never have and never will" because I never really know if I actually mean it. For example, there was a time where I would say I had never drank alcohol and never will, but I definitely do now so I'm kind of going back on what I said then. There's never any way for me to know if I'll actually never do something.

Gold warehouse
September 1st, 2011, 04:13 PM
I've never used this phrase, because I already know I am open to trying everything and anything

(within reason okay. I'm not going to behead myself)

Actually now I think about it, I'd probably say I'd never try heroin. True, I can't predict the future, but I already know of plenty of drugs to try that aren't as destructive so I don't see why I'd ever resort to heroin. Same principle can be applied to other situations to

2Cool4Mewtwo
September 1st, 2011, 05:21 PM
There are a lot of things that apply to this category of "I never will do this..."

Examples: Drunk driving (let alone drinking - but not 100% sure on that one), being the richest guy in the world, or some other things that's so far-fetched to imagine at this point in time, obviously. (For example, visiting Saturn or something like that).

Naruto Uzumaki
September 2nd, 2011, 03:28 PM
I'm pretty confident that I'll never smoke or do drugs. I'll stand by my 'I never have, never will...' phrase for those two things.

Mariah Carey
September 2nd, 2011, 03:43 PM
I only say "I never will" or "never have, never will" when I'm joking about something, because the reality is, I don't know that I will never do a certain thing, such as do drugs or kill someone. I'll do all I can to avoid using drugs (heroin/cocaine etc) but there may be a time in my life where there is a temptation to use them, and I may give in.
I just don't know.

Arago
September 6th, 2011, 03:51 AM
I'll never smoke a cigarette. I know that because I have health conditions that could probably kill me if I tried, plus I'd rather not tarnish my lungs with something so foul. I'm also highly against the tobacco industry, so I'd be supporting something I'm against if I were to smoke one.

Mr Cat Dog
September 6th, 2011, 07:24 AM
I fall in line with Scarf's viewpoint on this issue. I've done stuff that I originally said I 'never would', I might do stuff in the future that I've said I 'never would' but I don't really intend to... if that makes sense. People change, situations differ, who knows what's going to happen in the future?

Xyrin
September 7th, 2011, 11:50 AM
I'm not ever going to do drugs. I have the will power to stay away from it. That's how I know, I know it's bad and I shouldn't do it so it's not hard to keep me away.

This is how it is on most stuff as well. I usually say "never have, never will" on something that I know is bad and leads to nothing good, such as drugs.

Centiflora X
September 9th, 2011, 08:48 AM
My willpower is good enough to make me keep promises to myself to never take drugs, smoke and drink alcohol. Gambling too, but that's more of "No way, it's (near) impossible to win" than "I won't do it".

Sammi
September 10th, 2011, 09:15 PM
This is two days late now. Day and a half. Whatever. Fail mod is fail regardless. :( But better late than never?

Congrats, this is Poll of the Week!

*stickies*

QuilavaKing
September 10th, 2011, 09:18 PM
I don't want to try it, so why would I? Simple as that.

Astinus
September 11th, 2011, 06:33 PM
There are some things that I've said I would never do but I have done. But I said I would never do those things when I was a misinformed sheltered child with an idealized view of the world. Once I actually learned a few things about life, those "never will I..." became "Okay, I will, and it's not so bad."

Still, there are things that I said I would never do and I know I will never do them. Like drinking alcoholic drinks, even though I'm nearly four years over the legal age limit where I live. But with that, I said I would never do it because it's "bad." Now I'll never do it because of health reasons and a few other personal reasons.

This really reminds me of a "bingo" I hear directed towards childfree people: "You'll change your mind about having children when you're older!" For some people who say that, there's never any limit to how old someone can be and still be firm in their decision. Like how old does someone have to be before they know for sure that they'll never do *insert thing here*?

Vrai
September 13th, 2011, 10:52 AM
When someone says "I will never _______" they don't literally mean it will never happen. What they mean is that it is something that goes against something fundamental to their views and their image of themselves at that moment, and that they wish it would never happen. It's a kind of reinforcing mantra, a kind of positive reinforcement.

So like with me. I say things like "I will never smoke" and "I will never get drunk" because I don't want to do these things and if I didn't try to take a firm stance I think my ability to resist temptation wouldn't be as strong and I'd loose respect for myself.
I really don't think I could put what I want to say any better than Scarf has already said it. Yeah, sure, I really have no idea if I will in the future or not because I don't know the future. But when I do say something along the lines of this, it's less of a "pssh I'll NEVER do a thing like that" but more like "I don't want to do that because I know the consequences and I'll try to do everything in my power to not do it". That's my perspective, anyway. I don't want to drink in college, so I won't. Will I end up drinking at some point? Maybe. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't want to, especially considering that my family has a history of alcohol problems.

I guess more or less I don't have a reason why I say things like that aside from the fact that I simply do not want to do them.

Kinarii
September 19th, 2011, 03:54 AM
[css-span="font-family: "Tahoma"; font-size: 11px; color: #4b373d;"]I can't say that there's anything I've ever said I'd "never do" and ended up doing, although I used to say I'll "never have children" and now I feel that I would like to have a family someday.

I still hold to the statements that I'll never smoke or do drugs. It's just not even in my personality to do things like that that don't make sense on any level, and I'm immune to peer pressure. I only do (or don't do) things if it's what I want. I can't say I will never drink, but I certainly don't see a reason for it for me personally. It's not like it's a mandatory life experience or anything. Also, for the record, I'm above the drinking age and am saying this.[/css-span]

Pokemon Trainer Touko
September 19th, 2011, 06:36 AM
I know that I'll never drink alcohol and take drugs or smoke because a) my mom will never let me b) they taste weird (I've never smoked or took drugs I'm just saying that alcohol tastes weird o.o) and c) I'm scared that I'd get addicted to them and end up dying in the streets or something.. :'D Idk but I just don't want to try any of them. :x

Alley Cat
September 22nd, 2011, 08:43 PM
I have never done anything harder than shrooms, and I NEVER will.

That's as far as I'm going, a bunch of bud, and some shrooms every once in a while.

The Sly Fox
September 23rd, 2011, 01:13 PM
I will never smoke. It disgusts me. Why do it anyway? You don't look cool if you do, your just killing your lungs and health. Me and smoking are never going to happen.