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Ice Car
September 5th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Hope this doesn't cause a flame war. Let's try to make this a little mature, and I will prematurely say that you should leave Caps Lock and your anger at the door before posting or entering this thread.

Personally, I tend to hate all stereotypes, but ones I really hate are that "Men are supposed to be manly" and that Asians (Yes, I am one...) are incredibly skilled and smart compared to anyone else.

The first one, I'm sure most of us have heard. Men are "supposed to carry the family/support the family no matter what". Men are "supposed to not act like a "girl"", whatever definition that may be for each person.

Men aren't supposed to do anything remotely girly, as people will regard you as gay or not a man at all. This seriously ****ing pisses me off. Why do we all have to be a trash talking, physically strong, asshat to be, and I quote, "a man".

Moving on, the Asian stereotype to most would come off as a positive stereotype, which it is, but it really annoys the crap out of me, more so than any other stereotypes. I hear it all the time. If someone shows incredible skills of any sort, it never fails that people will make a remark about the person being Asian. People think that because I'm Asian I have the answer to all your problems, know the meaning of life, and can do anything in the world in a few seconds.

I hate it. I just really hate it. To be fair though, technically I'm Asian and am two years ahead of my own peers in intelligence, so it could reinforce the very stereotype I hate. I'm years ahead in maturity, in terms of worrying about the future, planning for it, and actually giving a **** about my grades because of the impact it will have later rather than in the present.

-Jared-
September 5th, 2011, 11:38 AM
One stereotype I don't like is that a lot of people seem to think that most, if not all, Christians are exclusive pricks who make people feel inferior until they decide to believe the same way as you, and then when that happens, suddenly become your best friend.

I am a Christian, and that is not my MO. Personally, I believe in God and Jesus, and that's that. You can believe what you want, and it doesn't bother me. We can still be friends, we can still hang out, and I will not try to force my religion upon you. If I did that, it would likely ruin the relationship, and I don't want that. ;-;

So yeah, that;s one stereotype I don't like. :<

Gold warehouse
September 5th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Every single one of them are stupid

Patatas Fritas
September 5th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Stereotypes are just wrong full stop.

I really don't like the "Men are manly" stereotype, because everyone's different and you can't generalise a group of people because they're not all going to act like that. I really don't like the "Gay men are so girly" stereotype either because I know gay men that are manly and straight men that aren't and everything inbetween, and I also don't like the stereotype that women stay home and do the cooking and cleaning while the men are the providers. I also REALLY DON'T LIKE people who stereotype the English as uptight snobs who drink tea, live in the dark ages and have rotten teeth. We don't. I would know. I hate tea. And my house is very bright. And also I have nice teeth D: Well, nice teeth as in they're not rotting but that's not the point :x

We should all just stop stereotyping.

Kevin
September 5th, 2011, 11:49 AM
I hate how some people say Asians have small ~, because it isn't true (I'm Asian so yeah).

And same about Asians being super smart although I am but still.

I wish people never made up these stereotypes, and just forget about it.

Freedom Fighter N
September 5th, 2011, 12:08 PM
Ha, that's the best Asians can do? I doubt they have as much conspiracies about as Jews have. Never heard of Asians controlling the world.

And the so hated stereotypes/generalisations are just a blown out of proportions truth. Well, most of them are.

"Men are supposed to act like XYZ" is not a stereotype. It's how society shapes men.

Ephemeral Euphoria
September 5th, 2011, 12:11 PM
I hate the generalization that long haired white dudes like me are automatically considered to be pot smoking retards fresh out of prison upon being looked at. We're not all like that people, well at least not me anyways but still.

Ice Car
September 5th, 2011, 12:20 PM
"Men are supposed to act like XYZ" is not a stereotype. It's how society shapes men.

Actually, it's more like:

"Men are manly".

Men can't act like women, in any way or form. I hate this.

Truality
September 5th, 2011, 02:45 PM
I only hate stereotypes based on appearance. You can't say "hey that guy's wearing a long coat, what a show-off. What? people who wear long coats are show-offs!" in front of me and get away with it.

Nationality stereotypes seem more like a way of distinguishing the nation, apart from the name, instead of stereotypes. I know thinking that way is bad, but I don't try to oppose it. Though I don't call someone 'oh, so you're Asian? are you short?' over the chat, for example. When it comes down to 1on1 conversations, ALL sterotypes should be erased. Because there are two people, unique in the world, talking.

shenanigans
September 5th, 2011, 02:51 PM
English stereotypes oh good God. A lot of people seem to have some odd impression that we are all characters from Harry Potter or something but with extra tea and scones? I can assure you that it's hard to be further from the truth there. What's produced in films and tourist areas lives up to the stereotype but everywhere else is more or less the opposite. I think some people would be really horrified by it, to be honest. =/

Others that I don't like? Hm. I see some odd associations between heavy music and the "emo" subculture which really is annoying since lots of people into heavy music actually despise this label. This subculture really tends to form more with certain subgenres than heavy music in general really, and even then that's a loose generalisation at best.

All Irish people are ginger drinkers! This is not true, as I am certainly not ginger.

deoxys121
September 5th, 2011, 03:24 PM
I'm a very strong and serious supporter of gay rights. Therefore, I hate stereotypes about homosexuals. Some of these:

"Gays are flamboyant." Some are, but most aren't.
"Gays are pedophiles." Again, totally not true.
"Gays are perverted and only want one-night stands, therefore they can't have long-term relationships." Ask all the married gay couples around America.
"Gays spread HIV/AIDS." No more than it's spread by heterosexuals.

Apologies if these are just a little bit over the top.

Ice Car
September 5th, 2011, 03:56 PM
I forgot one.

"Everyone who has been diagnosed with ADHD and/or Bipolar as a child does not have the disorder, and uses the two diagnosis' as an excuse for everything"

I get this a lot. Whenever I tell somebody that I have the two disorders and when I was diagnosed, they go ahead and tell me how they "know" that I don't have it and am using it as an excuse; that I really don't have it. I get really, really pissed when that happens. I've been taking meds for it for years, and not taking them has an extremely noticeable effect on me. I'm always quiet, shy, unsocial, but when I'm not, I'm always screwing around, not staying still, annoying everyone around me, and in general, being a jackass.

I would go on, but I don't want to waste my time trying to provide my own reasoning for why I know I do have it.

I hate people who do use their own diagnosis as an excuse, and even more so if it was falsely given. Way to annoy everyone around you, affect your future, and further the stereotype/generalization, making us all look like *******s.

Hassan_Abdillah
September 5th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Interesting tendency prevalent in this thread: stereotyping about stereotypes.

Ice Car
September 5th, 2011, 04:13 PM
Interesting tendency prevalent in this thread: stereotyping about stereotypes.

Exactly how was I doing this? And are you referring to stereotyping people who stereotype or the actual stereotypes themselves?

2Cool4Mewtwo
September 5th, 2011, 04:29 PM
I personally don't care about stereotypes themselves, but people who emphasize them are bit annoying. I mean, sterotypes don't even make half sense most of the time. Below are couple examples:

Gingers have no souls.
Asians can't drive.
Jews are mean and greedy.

poopnoodle
September 5th, 2011, 05:07 PM
you can thank aristotle for stereotypes. the way we organize ideas and things (people included) in our minds is a sufficient and necessary means of understanding the world. i don't think stereotypes are bad until they're used with hateful connotations. on a related note, stereotyping my customers gets me through the day. i always tell my coworkers that if the worst thing i do all day is be racist, i'm a pretty decent person.

Hassan_Abdillah
September 5th, 2011, 05:16 PM
Exactly how was I doing this? And are you referring to stereotyping people who stereotype or the actual stereotypes themselves?

Actual stereotypes themselves. I wasn't referring to you or anyone specifically, but I sensed the presence of such an air.

Consider this: sometimes stereotypes are formed out of people's concern for you. Your friend circle, for example, might feel there is a specific niche you are kind of "entitled to" i.e. if you assume that role, it will be healthy for you. There's a prevalent "stereotype" in our university that first year students of the same section shouldn't get into relationships with one another. Now this "stereotype" so to speak is extremely beneficial for a horde of reasons beyond the scope of this discussion. So sometimes, there might be a premise of wisdom underlying stereotypes.

Another case: men are social beings, they're not atoms as individualism assumes. They actively interact with the society, and are therefore entitled to certain social expectations as well. Sometimes these expectations are valid, sometimes they are off. A general example of such a "positive" stereotype would be "kids should accept responsibility" (the example is general. Fill in the blanks with what you deem to be positive). Now someone might say I was born to be a slacker, but still this society is being imposing on me. here the "stereotype" is positive, the person's response is not.

That example was kind of obvious, but the point is not the example. The point is sometimes we need to take social expectations into consideration as well before stereotyping stereotypes, so to speak. I have seen close friends of mine feel uncomfortable with this, while everyone would agree that the "stereotype" is perfectly plausible and it's his attitude that is troublesome. Hiccup's dad's stereotypes (How to Train your Dragon), on the other hand, were blameworthy. We need to find a balance somewhere.

And I'm sorry for any misunderstandings I might have caused.

Ice Car
September 5th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Actual stereotypes themselves. I wasn't referring to you or anyone specifically, but I sensed the presence of such an air.

Consider this: sometimes stereotypes are formed out of people's concern for you. Your friend circle, for example, might feel there is a specific niche you are kind of "entitled to" i.e. if you assume that role, it will be healthy for you. There's a prevalent "stereotype" in our university that first year students of the same section shouldn't get into relationships with one another. Now this "stereotype" so to speak is extremely beneficial for a horde of reasons beyond the scope of this discussion. So sometimes, there might be a premise of wisdom underlying stereotypes.

Another case: men are social beings, they're not atoms as individualism assumes. They actively interact with the society, and are therefore entitled to certain social expectations as well. Sometimes these expectations are valid, sometimes they are off. A general example of such a "positive" stereotype would be "kids should accept responsibility" (the example is general. Fill in the blanks with what you deem to be positive). Now someone might say I was born to be a slacker, but still this society is being imposing on me. here the "stereotype" is positive, the person's response is not.

That example was kind of obvious, but the point is not the example. The point is sometimes we need to take social expectations into consideration as well before stereotyping stereotypes, so to speak. I have seen close friends of mine feel uncomfortable with this, while everyone would agree that the "stereotype" is perfectly plausible and it's his attitude that is troublesome. Hiccup's dad's stereotypes (How to Train your Dragon), on the other hand, were blameworthy. We need to find a balance somewhere.

And I'm sorry for any misunderstandings I might have caused.

Okay, so I'm going to guess that the point you're making is that not all stereotypes are negative? That I can understand, and I personally don't agree with it (That all stereotypes are bad).

Hassan_Abdillah
September 5th, 2011, 05:26 PM
I had some other controversial stuff to say but restrained myself in the fear of flame wars.

EDIT: Let me say this much: I believe racial stereotypes and gender based stereotypes are not the same. To a certain extent gender-based stereotypes could be justified, while racial stereotypes could not. I don't want to go into details concerning this because

1. We might stray from topic
2. aforementioned fear of flame wars

2Cool4Mewtwo
September 5th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Honestly, if an Asian person couldn't drive, then how on earth did they get their license?

Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. (Not that other stereotypes do)

It really just sounds like people pulled it out from their arse and randomly started making generalizations.

Ctrl.Alt.Geak
September 5th, 2011, 06:16 PM
Like everyone else here, I too hate stereotypes, but some just frustreate me more than others:
1 - "Men are manly/feminnine men are gay". I dont think I need to explain this, plenty of people have voiced their dislike for this stereotype already.
2 - "Lesbians like sports". Of all the lesbians I know, I have not met one who enjoys sports (I dont actually know how popular this sterotype is these days but it is one that will always irritate me).
3 - "Guys know more about video-gaming than girls". After working in a video game store I have become very bitter to this particular stereotype. I didnt think people still believed this, but we get a lot of customers who are pretty vocal about it.

PlatinumDude
September 6th, 2011, 12:42 AM
I really don't like the stereotype that all Asians are smart. I'm Asian, and I don't think I'm very smart.

Pokemon Trainer Touko
September 6th, 2011, 02:40 AM
List of stereotypes that I absolutely hate ::

- Asians are socially awkward and shy
- People that wear black are either goth or emo
- Those with straight A's must not have a social life
- Girls that wear short skirts are ****s
;w;

Charliezard
September 6th, 2011, 03:10 AM
I'm a very strong and serious supporter of gay rights. Therefore, I hate stereotypes about homosexuals. Some of these:

"Gays are flamboyant." Some are, but most aren't.
"Gays are pedophiles." Again, totally not true.
"Gays are perverted and only want one-night stands, therefore they can't have long-term relationships." Ask all the married gay couples around America.
"Gays spread HIV/AIDS." No more than it's spread by heterosexuals.

Apologies if these are just a little bit over the top.

I have never heard of those stereotypes as far as gays are concerned... Well, the flamboyant one I've heard but yeah... the others 0.0 They don't even make sense. But in all honesty, what's wrong with perversion and one night stands? As long as both (Or all) parties are aware and nobody is simply using someone by making them believe it's something more then that's fine, imo.

I find that a lot of stereotypes are there for a reason... As long as we accept that a large number of people can be completely different from whatever stereotype they seem to belong to then it's all good. Stereotypes can be something to joke about in certain company (As long as you're not excluding anyone with your joke). I can say to my black friend that he should be good at basketball because he's black. This wouldn't make any sense if the stereotype wasn't there and yet it's harmless.

The problem is people can and often do use stereotypes to form their impressions of people. Oh, I'll hire the asian man because he must be smarter! If we use stereotypes for a bit of fun and treat people as indivuals then there'd be no problems.

Patchisou Yutohru
September 6th, 2011, 03:41 AM
People (mainly online) seem to think I'm gay because I like listening to Lady Gaga (which is weird, because pop is a genre I listen to the least). That's an assumption I wish didn't exist, but I guess I can understand. I don't take it as an insult though, because it's usually gays that assume it. It can be flattering sometimes.

Akarui
September 6th, 2011, 09:18 AM
Basically any stereotype, they can all die to be honest. It's 2011, grow up.

Doppelgänger
September 6th, 2011, 12:49 PM
People (mainly online) seem to think I'm gay because I like listening to Lady Gaga (which is weird, because pop is a genre I listen to the least). That's an assumption I wish didn't exist, but I guess I can understand. I don't take it as an insult though, because it's usually gays that assume it. It can be flattering sometimes.


This has happened to me also!

Anyways, yeah. I hate stereotypes. Some are incredibly hurtful and stupid.

Esper
September 6th, 2011, 01:44 PM
One of my pet peeves (and one I'll admit I'm guilty of every now and then) is the one where someone says: "You don't know what it's like. You're not _____." Yes, more than likely the person hasn't had the exact same experience and in that sense there's some validity to using this phrase, but I think it creates more divisions than anything. I'd much rather someone said: "It's kind of like when..." and tries to help someone understand. Of course, often this comes up when someone is doing some other stereotyping in the first place and that's not cool either.

On a related note, I don't like the assumption that a person of one race or culture can't understand another person's.

Bluerang1
September 6th, 2011, 02:17 PM
You're tall, go play basketball.

Actually I don't fancy it, football looks more fun. But being black and skinny too, I look like a basketball person -_-

wcdaily
September 6th, 2011, 05:30 PM
The stereotype that all Americans are fat, lazy, jobless jerks who only eat fast food.

Cassino
September 7th, 2011, 08:36 AM
the way we organize ideas and things (people included) in our minds is a sufficient and necessary means of understanding the world.
This.

All that might really bother me is people unobservant enough of our world to find the capacity to despise stereotypes.
The people who aggressively propogate them is another matter, but the stereotypes themselves aren't any ill-doing, I think.