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Kevin
October 3rd, 2011, 04:00 PM
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Don't be mislead by the banner; club is for discussion on all Square-Enix franchise!
Square-Enix ☆ Fan Club


Hi! The last fan club died... so I will make a new one to ensure the success of this long-lasting fan club. This is for all Square Enix fans, and anyone can join! As long as you follow the rules below, then that would be great. The primary discussion probably will be Kingdom Hearts and the like, but discussion on any game titles/series made by Square Enix may be discussed (such as Final Fantasy, TWEWY and Dragon Quest). I will do my best to be a good owner.


Rules
♦ Follow all of the PokeCommunity Rules and Other Club Rules.
♦ Try and not go off-topic, please. Stay on the current topic.
♦ Post spoilers in spoiler tags, if you feel as if you are spoiling something for others.
♦ Be kind to all of the members of this group, please.
♦ Anyone can start a new discussion topic; just make sure its relative.
♦ Be specific on what you're discussing not to confuse members (example: tell if you're talking about Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy).

Club Members
Owner
Destiny Demon

Co-Owner
Will find one soon enough (hopefully).

Members
KH Fan Bixran
コナンくん
Lightning
Stand Alone
Nakuzami
LordDarkrai
Chantelle
SeekerOfDarkness
EmeraldSerenade
SwiftSign
Ss4gogeta0
Team Fail
Cid
AshleyKetchum
Archer
CarefulWetPaint
Sakura Rain
ToriSora
Rokusasu
CoraCoraNekaku
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire
PokeGirlBel
Hayley
Kurui
Luck
mavy42
Dr.Kotov
TwilightSkye
Ariel Winter
JadeSkittles
~Ryukaa
Megaman3007
Bloo Milk C.
PokemonGamingForever
rainerman3
tigerkit300
myrrhman
foxyvulpixie
Psystar63

Discussion Topics
If you have a topic you want to discuss, feel free to just shoot the question out! Just make sure it's Square-Enix related, and everything's good. :) Although when joining, it'd be nice to answer this discussion topic. Not mandatory, though:
What's your favourite series by Square-Enix, and why?

KH Fan Bixran
October 5th, 2011, 04:00 AM
Ooo, I wanna join XD

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
kingdom hearts XD

Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Roxas(boss in kh2fm) lol

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
If they put it on the ps3, they better put it on the 360 as well

Ok, here is a good side topic I thought of:
What two keyblades would you dual weild?
for me, it would be xehanorts keyblade and master keeper(eraqus'), sort of an inversed Ok/Ob(oathkeeper/oblivion) feel lol

ソラ
October 5th, 2011, 09:31 AM
I'll Join, I joined the old one. I own a house key that is a Keyblade, and a Necklace that is a Keyblade that I wear everyday.

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Kingdom Hearts Series
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Sora
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
Playstation 3, or any other Playstation system.

Cherrim
October 5th, 2011, 09:44 AM
Don't mind me, just the chick who let the old one die. (Though I'm glad it's being remade... last thread was so big omg.) Joining!

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Kingdom Hearts is my favourite series in the world, so it's my favourite SE series.

Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
It's roughly a tie between Marluxia and Aqua. Though I adore so many of the characters that sometimes it's hard to pick a favourite. Those two always come out on top though. (I think technically Aqua might be my favourite but Mar's been my favourite since like 2006 so he gets bonus points for longevity.)

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
Anything but Wii, pretty much. <_<; I'd prefer PS3 since then there won't be multiple discs, I don't have to worry about regions, and it'll use the controller I'm most used to. Though by this point I'm more accustomed to the PSP anyway so I could probably adapt to any control scheme.

Kevin
October 5th, 2011, 12:14 PM
Great! I added the members onto the list.

What two Keyblades would you double wield?
Probably... Brightcrest and Ultima Weapon (BBS styled). They both look very nice in my opinion.

ソラ
October 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM
What two Keyblades would you double wield?
When im on Final Form, or Valor Form, or Master form I duel with these keyblades and I will always duel with these keys in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix.

Two Become One & Oblivion I like how it looks haha.

Cherrim
October 5th, 2011, 10:37 PM
Probably Kingdom Key Rambling Rose and Destiny's Embrace if I had to be realistic. I don't even like flowers but I seem to like really girly things lately. XD;

I would love to wield BBS's Ultima Weapon (since it's the prettiest one) and maybe Darker Than Dark (358/2 Days) since I always really liked its design. n_n;

Kevin
October 9th, 2011, 05:37 AM
BBS's Ultima Weapon is preety awesome. And yeah I only used Darker than Dark like, once. I really need to replay 358/2 Days; its story was pretty great. And is there a release date for KH3D yet? I haven't been paying attention much.

ソラ
October 9th, 2011, 03:04 PM
358/2 story is amazing but in missions NOT SO GREAT. annoying they are repetitive missions.

About 3DS the time frame date is around Spring of 2012. So sometime in April - Jun.

KH Fan Bixran
October 9th, 2011, 03:50 PM
BBS's Ultima Weapon is preety awesome. And yeah I only used Darker than Dark like, once. I really need to replay 358/2 Days; its story was pretty great. And is there a release date for KH3D yet? I haven't been paying attention much.

I think early 2012/mid 2012, need to look it up myself xD

ソラ
October 9th, 2011, 03:54 PM
it says at TGS SPRING 2012 >.>

so basically in Spring. but that is for Japan release.
American release might be around a few months after the release in Japan.

Kevin
October 10th, 2011, 05:32 AM
Well I still have to buy a 3DS first... But yeah that's like an entire year from now.

And yeah I hated 358/2 Days repetitive missions, it was annoying. Ugh, the worst boss was probably the Ruler of the Sky and Dustflier. I hated the Tailbunker family.

ソラ
October 10th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Yeah Next month I get money from my school, so imma save it up to get a 3DS and get a few other games besides KH3D, like Abyss 3D, LoZOT, and some other games. Also I might get a Vita next year tho Im not gonna get FFX HD remake for it, cause I got a PS3 for that, Just want it for some games like P4 (lol the games Im saying on here is like nothing to do with sqaure).

But any whoo I've been itching to play KHIIFM again but Ive been busy with other games. haha.

KH Fan Bixran
October 10th, 2011, 11:50 AM
Yeah Next month I get money from my school, so imma save it up to get a 3DS and get a few other games besides KH3D, like Abyss 3D, LoZOT, and some other games. Also I might get a Vita next year tho Im not gonna get FFX HD remake for it, cause I got a PS3 for that, Just want it for some games like P4 (lol the games Im saying on here is like nothing to do with sqaure).

But any whoo I've been itching to play KHIIFM again but Ive been busy with other games. haha.

I wish I could play kh2fm...(cries to self)
anyway, my mom is going to wait till the price drops on the 3ds, then she will get me one lol

ソラ
October 11th, 2011, 11:55 AM
I wish I could play kh2fm...(cries to self)
anyway, my mom is going to wait till the price drops on the 3ds, then she will get me one lol

Lmao, the price did drop. It was at 250, then nintendo did something smart and realize they werent selling much in the 3ds department. so they cut it to 169.99 thats is a 80 dollar cut.

But you have time KH3D wont come out for a while.

Riku
October 11th, 2011, 12:51 PM
THE OLD ONE DIED? NUUUU! Joinage, pleeeeeease :3

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Gotta say Final Fantasy /totally obvious answer is obvious
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Hnnnng. This one is tough. But so far, I gotta say it's either Riku or Aqua. Riku because he's just.. well.. Riku. KH2 won me over for him. Aqua because.. well.. she's a strong female character that is still gentle. She's got some depth to her. And she's not useless. That one's a big plus.
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
I'm gonna get grilled so hard for this, but if I had the CHOICE, I'd like to see a multi-port of the game on PS3 and Xbox, simply because... well.. I can't afford a PS3 and there are few games out for it I want to play. If it DID go multi-port, though, it'd most likely be for the Wii 2... I mean... Wii U. But it's probably just gonna be a PS3 exclusive. Maybe Vita. So REALISTICALLY, if it WAS on something aside from the PS3, I'd choose the Vita as the safest bet.
What two Keyblades would you double wield?
Ya know... I realllllly like the Ultima Weapon Keyblade design from BbS. I think I'd probably choose that and Sleeping Lion from KH2.

Kevin
October 11th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Added!

And yeah I'm pretty satisfied with the current price drop. But if they drop it even more, no problem! The cheaper, the better. But I doubt that's gonna happen for about another year or so. It's a good thing KH3D won't be released for a while (although it at the same time sucks, I want to see the storyline and stuff).

KH Fan Bixran
October 13th, 2011, 06:45 PM
This should stir up QUITE the discussion:

What would you name the keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?

i saw on a discussion on some site that seemed to stick with the name "Demon's Gaze".
Discuss this as you please.

Kevin
October 16th, 2011, 06:18 AM
What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
Demon's Gaze sounds pretty cool, to me. Looking at it, I think of Death Reaper for some reason. Here's a picture for you guys to see:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110113192339/kingdomhearts/images/thumb/f/ff/Master_Xehanort%27s_Keyblade_KHBBS.png/250px-Master_Xehanort%27s_Keyblade_KHBBS.png
I've been thinking of some discussion questions myself. Here's one:

What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?

KH Fan Bixran
October 18th, 2011, 11:54 AM
What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
for me:
1) pocahontas,
2) toon town(who framed roger rabbit), &
3) princess and the frog

Also, SOUL EATER(lol jk), which leads to below \/

Here is something that popped in my head this morning:

Theory: Could Nomura have based Riku's blade, named Soul Eater, off of the actual scythe, of the same name, in an anime(of the SAME NAME XD)?

Pics:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYoXXzSOygKCR11HTJoLbfiN_FNnP6IJBteqDbjNWlSDlEC3te
http://www.cosplayhouse.com/images/D/Soul_Eater_Accessories_Maka_Albarn_Scythe_ver_01-2-03.jpg

ソラ
October 18th, 2011, 08:11 PM
Lilo's world Not deep space.
Toy Story's world
Brother Bear's world Wanna see Sora as a bear instead of a lion lmao.

Riku
October 18th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Disney Worlds I want to see:

Hmm...
1) Pocahontas
2) Toy Story
3) Monster's Inc.
4) Atlantis: The Lost Empire ohay, Leonard Nimoy returns in KH again
5) A Bug's Life
6) The Sword in the Stone We have Merlin and have had him since the original, c'mon

IF they could manage it, it'd be pretty sweet to get Howl's Moving Castle or Spirited Away or something from Studio Ghibli, but that's highly doubtful >:


MX's Keyblade:
If I could name it, I'd probably call it something in reference to an Eidolon. Or, rather, something along the lines of Tartarus or Fang of the Fallen or something. Idk.


To answer your question, Bixran, I'm pretty sure Riku's Soul Eater came long before Soul Eater the Manga's launch date. It'd be interesting though if inspiration was drawn from one for the other though... and SE DOES publish Soul Eater...


Here's a question that isn't KH related. I've sorta been going on a XIII binger lately, and was curious as to whether or not people want to actually play XIII-2 or not? I personally am looking forward to it. It seems like they're taking everything good about the first and improving on it while overhauling some of the things people complained about (too linear, not enough extras to be done, actually having DLC, a plot that doesn't have a 10 chapter long intro, etc) Plus, I just wanna see Noel really chew Snow out in full detail and see how much more BA Lightning has gotten.

KH Fan Bixran
October 20th, 2011, 09:48 AM
Disney Worlds I want to see:

Hmm...
1) Pocahontas
2) Toy Story
3) Monster's Inc.
4) Atlantis: The Lost Empire okay, Leonard Nimoy returns in KH again
5) A Bug's Life
6) The Sword in the Stone We have Merlin and have had him since the original, c'mon

IF they could manage it, it'd be pretty sweet to get Howl's Moving Castle or Spirited Away or something from Studio Ghibli, but that's highly doubtful >:


MX's Keyblade:
If I could name it, I'd probably call it something in reference to an Eidolon. Or, rather, something along the lines of Tartarus or Fang of the Fallen or something. Idk.


To answer your question, Bixran, I'm pretty sure Riku's Soul Eater came long before Soul Eater the Manga's launch date. It'd be interesting though if inspiration was drawn from one for the other though... and SE DOES publish Soul Eater...


Here's a question that isn't KH related. I've sorta been going on a XIII binger lately, and was curious as to whether or not people want to actually play XIII-2 or not? I personally am looking forward to it. It seems like they're taking everything good about the first and improving on it while overhauling some of the things people complained about (too linear, not enough extras to be done, actually having DLC, a plot that doesn't have a 10 chapter long intro, etc) Plus, I just wanna see Noel really chew Snow out in full detail and see how much more BA Lightning has gotten.

Funny thing, Koji Taguchi of SE actually worked on the anime(info from Soul eater wikia XD), which now makes me curious if he ever worked, even for only a little bit, on a kingdom hearts game.

Kevin
October 21st, 2011, 06:01 PM
What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
Definitely the Pocahontas world. They can build an interesting story with that movie. I can already imagine the boss... And Toy Story could be one of those extra miscellaneous worlds who have a Heartless as a boss or something.

Could Nomura have based Riku's blade, named Soul Eater, off of the actual scythe, of the same name, in an anime(of the SAME NAME XD)?
They do look alike, but I doubt it was made by intention. But nice inference. :P

And yeah... an obvious question I don't think I even covered yet:
What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?

KH Fan Bixran
October 23rd, 2011, 05:32 AM
What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?

If I had to pick: Birth by Sleep(playing it right now xD)
I mean, nomura was thinking right when he made this; to me, It revolutionized kh gaming.

But, thats just me XD!

KH Fan Bixran
October 25th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Ok, sort of a in-game question, but i don't know where else to ask:

What moves are good for terra when doing the mirage arena?

Current Setup:
Lvl: 54
Commands
Ars Solum lv6
Meteor lv6
Quake lv1
and x2 Curaga lv4
Keyblade
Chaos Keeper
Shotlock
Ultima Cannon
Finish Command
Explosion(Demolition SUCKS when enemy far away TT~TT)

And that is about it xD. any help would be appreciated.

Oops, almost forgot: Arena Level is 29(have to collect at least 2222 more medals XD)

Plz & thx!

EDIT: lol first post of new page LMAO

KH Fan Bixran
November 3rd, 2011, 12:11 PM
This literally JUST popped into my head now:

If you could play as any kh villan(or, in some cases, ally dudes), who would it be?
For me, I would play as Vanitas Sentiment, but take his helmet off and color the hair white. However I would most likely NOT use the Dark ball thing he does(too cheap)

So, what about yall?

Nakuzami
November 10th, 2011, 07:08 PM
Eh, well, I guess I'll join. I do love Square Enix, even if I haven't actually played millions of games by them. <3
On a random note: The picture used for the banner also happens to be my background on my Xbox profile~

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?

That would have to be Kingdom Hearts. I haven't played much Final Fantasy(Mainly just Dirge of Cerberus, I have the Advent Children movie, and I have XIII... but it's pretty poor in the gameplay department in my opinion, so I'm not very motivated to play it)... and there's no other series by Square Enix that I've played, but I do have the Fullmetal Alchemist game, and I literally just got The World Ends With You from GameFly today, so...

Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?

Erm... let's see...
Axel is amazing for many reasons...
Zexion... oh gawd, he's epic. I wanted to go for him as Halloween, but that'll be next year hopefully. <3
Roxas is pretty cool too...
Mickey is amazing when it comes to Kingdom Hearts...
Riku is completely epic, whereas Sora is a bit... annoying at times.

Agh, rather than just saying something about each character, I'll go with Axel. Zexion would be second, but only because I haven't finished Riku's story in Chain of Memories yet, so I haven't seen the last of Zexion. ;3

But... Neku from TWEWY is to be in Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance... maybe once I see that? ;>

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?

Xbox 360. My only reason being that I don't have a PS3 yet, and I don't really feel like going out to buy one. I also don't have a PSP, so I've never experianced Birth By Sleep ;~;

What two Keyblades would you double wield?

I dunno, Ultima Weapon and Oblivion? I haven't played Kingdom Hearts in a little while, so I guess I'll go with those two...

Or, I could be slightly more original/boring and say the Kingdom Key and the Kingdom Key D.

What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?

Well... I'm not completely sure. At the moment I can't really think of many Disney things to introduce... I might get back to this question once I'm fully awake and can think clearer...

What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?

That's probably be Kingdom Hearts II. I liked the first one, but Kingdom Hearts II is just better in my opinion, and the only other KH games I've played besides the first two are Re: Chain of Memories, and a bit of 358/2 Days.

Kevin
November 23rd, 2011, 06:14 PM
Aha I was busy for a while, but first post updated. Welcome to the club, Nakuzami!

If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
As said above, Vanitas is a top choice for me. He's pretty awesome. I'd also find it interesting to play as Maleficent... Maybe,

ソラ
November 25th, 2011, 01:10 AM
If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?

Vanitas is also my main choice. Idk if he is a Villain in KH, but he is as a optional boss and he is a villain tho, But Sephiroth.

LordDarkrai
November 26th, 2011, 12:49 PM
I like to join.

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Final Fantasy

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
PS3

What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
http://www.listal.com/list/kingdom-hearts-world-wishlist
This sums it up on my choices.

If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?

No Heart

ソラ
December 19th, 2011, 01:16 PM
TIME TO MAKE THIS CLUB ALLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIVEEEEE.
with more Kingdom Hearts News :)

The Jump Festa 2012 Trailer of Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance (KH3D) has been released to the Interweb.

v/Zlex8ja2eNI

Also Kingdom Hearts 3D has a full functional site opened in Japan. The game is set to release in March 2012 in Japan. NA hasnt gotten a date or an announcement.

Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance Site CLICK HERE (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/3d/)

At the website it has wallpaper and such

Kevin
December 19th, 2011, 01:44 PM
That was just... plain epic. Gahh I loved that. Now I totally need a 3DS!

Cherrim
December 19th, 2011, 07:55 PM
kldjfskfls

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i can't even use my words right now. oh my god. i need this in my life.

march can't come soon enough.

i had to avoid this all day. D: (Or rather, had no choice but to because I was out at doctor's appointments and waiting around all day.) Only just now got some peace and quiet to myself so I could watch it. And I just... I... omg.

Trailer impressions in no particular order:
Wtf Lea! That was awesome! I was really hoping he'd be in it again, not because i particularly like him, but because I think it would have been really out of character for him to not try to jump worlds asap to find Sora and help with whatever he could.

Also, was Sora at that beach in the Darkness or was that just Destiny Islands at night time? DDDD: I will be so sad if it was the World of Darkness and he missed Aqua by that much again.

TWEWY! guys i will die a million deaths of joy if Pi-Face is in this. Even if he's not... TWEWY! ♥♥♥

oh god tron world with riku. do not want.

The battle system looks weird. There's no separate attack button anymore? :s Looks like you use the same button to use commands from your deck AND to attack. I think? Unless you can only have 3 things in your deck and X/Y are to use the other two commands? But that doesn't make sense, they're more likely scroll buttons. Lmao what the hell are the controls?

._. lol the only movie I've actually seen that's represented in the game so far is Pinocchio.

march march march march march march march. i can't wait to import this.

ソラ
December 20th, 2011, 01:45 PM
kldjfskfls

lsd;jflsklfs

s;el;

ewipqprwkofm

i can't even use my words right now. oh my god. i need this in my life.

march can't come soon enough.

i had to avoid this all day. D: (Or rather, had no choice but to because I was out at doctor's appointments and waiting around all day.) Only just now got some peace and quiet to myself so I could watch it. And I just... I... omg.

Trailer impressions in no particular order:
Wtf Lea! That was awesome! I was really hoping he'd be in it again, not because i particularly like him, but because I think it would have been really out of character for him to not try to jump worlds asap to find Sora and help with whatever he could.

Also, was Sora at that beach in the Darkness or was that just Destiny Islands at night time? DDDD: I will be so sad if it was the World of Darkness and he missed Aqua by that much again.

TWEWY! guys i will die a million deaths of joy if Pi-Face is in this. Even if he's not... TWEWY! ♥♥♥

oh god tron world with riku. do not want.

The battle system looks weird. There's no separate attack button anymore? :s Looks like you use the same button to use commands from your deck AND to attack. I think? Unless you can only have 3 things in your deck and X/Y are to use the other two commands? But that doesn't make sense, they're more likely scroll buttons. Lmao what the hell are the controls?

._. lol the only movie I've actually seen that's represented in the game so far is Pinocchio.

march march march march march march march. i can't wait to import this.

Haha my exact reaction to KH3D Trailer. Like to add like 2 more things.

How there is Young Xehanort, and Vanitas speaking with Sora.

there is like 3 things i want to get in March including KH3D, and a Japanese 3DS.
the other thing isnt related to Square but it is a game haha.

EDIT: Looks like KH3D got a Localization announcement. tho this site is from EU, no NA yet
http://www.kingdomhearts3dgame.com/index.php < -- here is the site

Cherrim
December 20th, 2011, 01:52 PM
Yes, I was gonna say something about that too but I was too busy going "wait what?" to listen to what they were saying. Have to rewatch it again soon. 8D;

I'm definitely importing a 3DS for that, even if all my friends are judging me for it. I hope they come out with a KH 3DS like they did for all the other consoles. D: And I hope it's not kind of ugly like the Days DS was, haha. Regardless, that seems easier than importing a console and the game. (Though I guess if it's way too expensive I'll see about picking up an older model instead. u_u)

ソラ
December 20th, 2011, 08:06 PM
Well since the EU Website I saw. So I went to the NA site, and saw this announcement. haha

http://release.square-enix.com/na/2011/12/20_01.html

Cherrim
December 20th, 2011, 08:14 PM
I'm pretty surprised it was actually announced for a 2012 release in English countries. o_o I was expecting January '13, tbh.

ソラ
December 21st, 2011, 01:04 AM
I'm pretty surprised it was actually announced for a 2012 release in English countries. o_o I was expecting January '13, tbh.
Actually Square localize games fast.

BBS may took a while. But the other games were quick. except for KHReCoM tho, that wasnt really planned to be release outside Japan.

Chantelle
December 21st, 2011, 05:02 AM
What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Final Fantasy
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Jack Skellington
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
3DS and PS2
What two Keyblades would you double wield?
Decisive Pumpkin and Two become One
What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
Dragon's Eye
What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
Pocahontas, Snow White's and Radiator Springs
What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?
Kingdom Hearts II, I really enjoyed the Nightmare before christmas level as well as Arials World in this one.
If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
Axel and Demyx

Cherrim
December 21st, 2011, 01:57 PM
They aren't that fast. It seems to depend on the console. :s I guess it is usually a ~4 month turnaround but they seem to take a lot longer when there are a lot of cutscenes to voice. (Days and Re:Coded were really quick because there are so few voiced scenes--the majority of the cutscenes just needed to be translated.) The only very voiced game that didn't take forever was KH2 and I think they fast-tracked that because nothing else was in their release window and it was a main game rather than a side game. :/

Oh well, still importing even if there only ends up being a 3-4 month buffer between release and localization.

ソラ
December 27th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Well I got a N3DS for Xmas.
Just need an import N3DS, then Im set for both region games of KH. :3.
I wish Nintendo would let 3DS be region free. kind of lame that it is locked.

yeah KHBBS was full voiced.
Kh2 wasnt full voiced by it was a big game tho still.
and Im importing too, just need to save up the money to.

Kevin
December 28th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Same, I wish the 3DS was region free like the good ol' DS. :<
And I still need a 3DS... Haha...

What color did you get, コナンくん?

Oh and welcome to the club, Chantelle. ^^

ソラ
December 28th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Same, I wish the 3DS was region free like the good ol' DS. :<
And I still need a 3DS... Haha...

What color did you get, コナンくん?

Oh and welcome to the club, Chantelle. ^^
Yeah :/ it is nintendo's mistake for doing it. But it isnt gonna stop me from getting a Japanese one, to play KH3D, and other import games that I may like.

I got the Flame Red 3DS, with the Super Mario 3D Land bundle.
I wonder if there will be a KH3D Bundle in Japan, I'd get that :3

SeekerOfDarkness
December 28th, 2011, 04:40 PM
Hey, can I join?

What is your favorite series made by Square Enix? - Kingdom Hearts

Who is your favorite Kingdom Hearts character? - Gotta go with Zexion here, but Axel is a close second

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on? - Wii, since it's the only game console I own besides my DS, and I pray it doesn't come out for that

What two Keyblades would you double wield? - Oathkeeper and Oblivion. Classics.

What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself? - Another

What new Disney worlds do you hope are introduced in KH3D? - The world of Robin Hood

What is your favorite Kingdom Hearts game and why? - I go against the grain on this one: Re:Coded 358/2 Days

If you could play as any Kingdom Hearts villain (or in some cases, allies), who would it be? - Zexion

Also, I've got a question for discussion.
Inspired by a rumor I saw somewhere.
Do you think the characters from TWEWY (e.g. Neku, Shiki, Rhyme, etc.) will make appearances in KH3D?

I heard that they will, and I really hope they do. I'm playing TWEWY right now, and I'm loving every minute of it. So it would be awesome to see them in KH3D.

Kevin
December 29th, 2011, 04:11 PM
Haha if there was a limited edition KH-styled 3DS, I would totally buy that. ^^

And welcome to the club, SeekerOfDarkness. By the way, TWEWY characters are in KH3D, thankfully. ^^

Nakuzami
January 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
v/Zlex8ja2eNI


Oh. My. God.
That was pretty freaking epic. I can't wait for this game to come out! It's gonna be awesome to see the TWEWY characters, and Aqua, Terra, and Ven.
. . . This is so awesome . . . I just want to know what they plan to do, if anything, after the Xehanort saga. That would suck if KH III was the end of KH. :C Mostly just because I need more KH, lol.

I got a PSP and Birth By Sleep for Christmas, so . . . yeah, epic~

If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?

Hm . . . well, you can play as Org. XIII people in 358/2 Days, but I only got to play that while my sister borrowed it from a friend, so I didn't get that chance.
Well, seeing as you can play as Org. XIII, even if it is just in multiplayer mode, I'll just say Vanitas.

. . . Hmph, now I'm tempted to add Dream Eaters to the Kingdom Hearts role-play that I'm making. That could be fun . . . :3

KH Fan Bixran
January 19th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Haha if there was a limited edition KH-styled 3DS, I would totally buy that. ^^

And welcome to the club, SeekerOfDarkness. By the way, TWEWY characters are in KH3D, thankfully. ^^

actually, they do!!!
link to thread: http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?120636-Release-Date-Confirmed-Picture-of-KH3D-themed-3DS

wants to haves it!!!!

-RANDOM MERGING OF 2 POSTS-

As we all know(i think...xD), this is a widely argued topic.

Yesterday, however, this came to mind:
When Master Xehanort (old man) transferred his heart to terra, he left his old body behind. Now, for those who know how a nobody is created, what could this mean? Simple; The Mysterious Figure is old Master Xehanort's nobody!!!
Correct me if im wrong, but I find this to be a very solid theory.

SeekerOfDarkness
January 23rd, 2012, 06:24 PM
actually, they do!!!
link to thread: http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?120636-Release-Date-Confirmed-Picture-of-KH3D-themed-3DS

wants to haves it!!!!

-RANDOM MERGING OF 2 POSTS-

As we all know(i think...xD), this is a widely argued topic.

Yesterday, however, this came to mind:
When Master Xehanort (old man) transferred his heart to terra, he left his old body behind. Now, for those who know how a nobody is created, what could this mean? Simple; The Mysterious Figure is old Master Xehanort's nobody!!!
Correct me if im wrong, but I find this to be a very solid theory.

Well, I wouldn't say you're wrong, and actually, what I'm about to say probably supports your theory.

Xehanort did indeed have both a Nobody and a Heartless. The Heartless is my namesake, Ansem. The Nobody is Xemnas, which explains the similarities in his appearance to Xehanort. Both Xemnas and the Mysterious Figure wield etheral blades. Which is why I support your theory.

Kevin
January 29th, 2012, 07:07 PM
actually, they do!!!
link to thread: http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?120636-Release-Date-Confirmed-Picture-of-KH3D-themed-3DS

wants to haves it!!!!

-RANDOM MERGING OF 2 POSTS-

As we all know(i think...xD), this is a widely argued topic.

Yesterday, however, this came to mind:
When Master Xehanort (old man) transferred his heart to terra, he left his old body behind. Now, for those who know how a nobody is created, what could this mean? Simple; The Mysterious Figure is old Master Xehanort's nobody!!!
Correct me if im wrong, but I find this to be a very solid theory.Oh my gosh, I'll definitely buy that if/when it comes to the U.S.

And good theory, I would agree with that.

ソラ
January 30th, 2012, 12:15 PM
I'm debating weather or not I should pre-order the Japanese 3DS bundle, or Just buy a 3DS Japanese early cause I know I'll have that money in February, But Idk If I'll have the money for it in March. But I know I'll have the Money for Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. But I'll most likely have the 3DS by Feb, and not open it and wait till March 29th, or in April 1st - 2nd to open and play it.

I'm just so god damn excited. >.<

Looking forward to the scene one of my favorite scenes in the trailer in the game. Well 2 scenes. I'll be not heard of for like atleast a month or so when KH3D roles around >.<

LordDarkrai
February 4th, 2012, 04:10 AM
I excited for Dream Drop Distance and it helps that their's an Notre Dame and Fantasia worlds.

What does anyone think of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMDat9Xsz0Q&list=FLxwvk15eMjmvlEadqV4nnqw&index=163&feature=plpp_video

ソラ
February 4th, 2012, 01:26 PM
Yeah, I bought my Japanese 3DS the other day.
It is coming It should be here by Tuesday, But I wont be able to play anything on it other than my DS games on it. But Im getting early mainly do to the fact I have the money for the 3DS, so in March I'll get KH3D, I was gonna get the bundle but I knew I wouldnt have enough money for it all, so yeah.

But yeah Im very excited Im mostly excited for the KH3D Box art cover I love Square's Box arts they are so beautiful *o*

EmeraldSerenade
February 4th, 2012, 02:02 PM
I'd like to join this club c: I'm a HUGE fan of the Square Enix line of franchise...

Kevin
February 5th, 2012, 06:56 AM
But yeah Im very excited Im mostly excited for the KH3D Box art cover I love Square's Box arts they are so beautiful *o*I love the box art too. ^^

I'd like to join this club c: I'm a HUGE fan of the Square Enix line of franchise...Oh my we haven't talked in forever. Hit me up, would you? And accepted. C:

ソラ
February 6th, 2012, 03:18 PM
I love the box art too. ^^



Lol, yeah.

So I finally got my Japanese 3DS, now for the irritating wait for Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. Lol. God it's gonna be a LONNNNNG month for me. D:

EDIT: SPEAKING of Box Art

http://i.imgur.com/yzTwX.png

ANOTHER EDIT: New trailer, tho it been known no one has posted this, It is subtitled if you dont see it, press the Closed Caption symbol on the video.
v/BssrlR_rdFc

Kevin
March 4th, 2012, 03:01 PM
I wonder what Ursula's role in the game is, since all the Disney worlds are new.

Magic
March 5th, 2012, 04:53 PM
Oooh SE :3

I'm going to be awkward and change all the KH questions to FF since it's incredibly bias to them :P

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Final Fantasy

Who is your favourite FF character?
Vivi FFIX, Lulu FFX, Yuel FFXIII2 and many close joint 2nd.

What Ultimate Weapon would you wield?
Auron's Masamune

What FF world was your favourite to play?
I would say FFIX had a great world, more recently XII had a great, diverse and HUGE world ready to explore.

What is your favourite Final Fantasy game and why?
I think my favourite is a tie between IX (my first game) and X, for the characters and the beautiful ending.

If you could play as any Final Fantasy villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
XIII's Cid would have been a fun character to play :3

Ss4gogeta0
March 11th, 2012, 07:27 AM
What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Final Fantasy, Parasite Eve

Who is your favourite FF character?
Sabin FFVI, Locke FFVI, Auron FFX, Cecil FFIV, Kain FFIV, Sazh FFXIII, Snow FFXIII, Jecht FFX, Yuna FFX/X-2, Tellah FFIV

What Ultimate Weapon would you wield?
Ultima Weapon FFVI

What FF world was your favourite to play?
good question... I would have to choose between the Diverse landscapes in both FFXIII and FFX....

What is your favourite Final Fantasy game and why?
... just one? sorry but It is split between FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FFX, FFX-2, FFXIII, FFCC... The storylines are rich, and the characters get deep developing story archs

If you could play as any Final Fantasy villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
... Kefka... just Kefka...

KH Fan Bixran
March 17th, 2012, 10:20 AM
I've been playing TWEWY, and its making me want to make a team based on them lol.

Any suggestions?

Also:
Who is your favorite character from The World Ends With You, and why?
For me, id have to say sho minamimoto, just because he looks so epic, especially when he gets powered up later on.

Cherrim
March 18th, 2012, 11:46 AM
<3 Pi-Face, for sure. I love math (I am a math major) and I specialised in visual arts in high school so couple that with his massive ego (those are my favourite kinds of characters) and he's seriously just the perfect character for me. I'm always going back to this avatar/sig set because I like him so much. :'D

I really hope he makes some sort of appearance in KH 3D, though even if he doesn't, the fact that other TWEWY characters are there makes me happy because it means they can draw from that game for NPCs whenever they want from now on.

ソラ
March 18th, 2012, 12:00 PM
Who is your favorite character from The World Ends With You, and why?
For me, id have to say sho minamimoto, just because he looks so epic, especially when he gets powered up later on.
EDIT: I edited it. WOOPS I feel embarrassed I haven't played in so long.
Rhyme is my favorite, Idk why, she just is, I love her so much, when I heard she was in KH3D, I was bouncing up and down with joyness. <3

KH Fan Bixran
March 19th, 2012, 07:43 AM
Beat is my favorite, Idk why, she just is, I love her so much, when I heard she was in KH3D, I was bouncing up and down with joyness. <3

..Beat is a he...how did u get "she"?

Cherrim
March 19th, 2012, 08:00 AM
Maybe he meant Rhyme? :P

ソラ
March 19th, 2012, 10:37 AM
Maybe he meant Rhyme? :P
Whooooops.

I feel embarrassed, I haven't played Twewy in so long, that and I havent gotten any sleep in like 2 days. >.< Yes I meant Rhyme. Thank you for the correction. hehe my bad... >.>

KH Fan Bixran
March 20th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Crazy question:
What pokemon do you think fits each of the twewy characters?
Ex., pi-face=haxorus, neku=scrafty, beat=infernape (at least, imo lol)
what do yall think?

P.S., if any of yall use PO, what trainer sprite (number of sprite plz) would resemble Mr. Hanekoma?

Cherrim
March 23rd, 2012, 03:28 PM
I always associate Luxray with Sho since his noise form is a lion. :B And I can see Rhyme with Emolga or one of the Pikachu clones since they sort of match her noise form.

...apparently I can't separate people from their noise forms in this game, which makes sense because I can't really think of any Pokemon for people in the game who don't have one. 8D;

ソラ
March 28th, 2012, 02:21 PM
I'm not to well at comparing what Pokemon is similar to TWEWY characters.

Anywho, Happy 10th Anniversary to the Kingdom Hearts Series!

Tomorrow KH3D comes out in Japan.
I have no monies, so I will have to wait till I do :)

Cherrim
March 29th, 2012, 09:27 PM
Well, you've got the 3DS so the big payment's out of the way. :P My parents agreed to help out with my 3DS + KH preorder as my birthday gift this year so now I'm refreshing the shipping page waiting for my tracking #. xD; I do wish I could have gotten the special edition 3DS but ugggh $500 and it never even went up for preorder anyway. *sob*

Happy Birthday to KH though! I can't believe it's been around so long with no KH3. Mind you, I don't think I got into it until 2004 so it hasn't quite been a decade yet but... still. That's a very long time. @_@

ソラ
April 7th, 2012, 09:52 AM
Well, I bought Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. it's like 55 mins away from my town, and it says "Package not due for delivery". So I have to wait till Monday, or Tuesday to get it.

Also, speaking of KH3D. The NA release date is July 31st 2012, for the EU release I think August 3rd 2012. But July 31st is a DAY before my birthday, the timing couldnt be better :).

Cherrim
April 7th, 2012, 10:24 AM
dkjslkfs yay! You got it!

I'll have someone to talk to about it! <3

I'm not very far because I was high on painkillers all last week and playing in 3D made me really dizzy so I bet you'll beat it before me. XD

Team Fail
April 7th, 2012, 10:29 AM
I saw the intro to KH3D and it's really impressive. I plan to play the NDS ones before I try KH3D, though. I've heard lots of positive criticism on the games and I wouldn't mind trying it.

Not that I don't want to stop trying TWEWY, but I do have the right to play more than one game at a time.

ソラ
April 7th, 2012, 10:37 AM
dkjslkfs yay! You got it!

I'll have someone to talk to about it! <3

I'm not very far because I was high on painkillers all last week and playing in 3D made me really dizzy so I bet you'll beat it before me. XD

Ya! I hope I get it earlier. But Tuesday is fine. :) I might be busy on Tuesday, but I'll play it before I go out. haha.

Also you do have the option not to play in 3D right? LOL. I cant play a game, or watch a movie in 3D. haha.

Cherrim
April 7th, 2012, 11:06 AM
Yeah, but for most of the week I reeeally wanted to play in 3D. I eventually gave up on it. XD;

I'm probably fine to do it now but I think my body still associates any amount of 3D on the 3DS with "oh, I'm supposed to get a headache and make you dizzy now right?" so... I'm just gonna keep on avoiding it.

Cid
April 9th, 2012, 10:22 PM
I would like to join this club, if it's still alright. I love Square-Enix. <3

I'll answer some of the discussion topics, too (see under the spoiler tag). By the way, it's great that you guys already have copies of the Japanese KH:DDD (no, I'm not smiling, that's Dream Drop Distance for non-KH fans, although I think the colon before the D's can be omitted). Now I can hear from your experiences first-hand! :33

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
When I was a kid, I always adored the Mana series. One title that stands out would be Seiken Densetsu 3 (SE was just Squaresoft back then) which I played on an emulator (shh) after seeing my brother play it. :> I still remember the fond memories of playing that game, especially Kevin's werewolf (actually, "Beastman") bad-assery. It's probably the first game I cried on, but I don't really remember much of that time. :P I wish they'd make more games in this franchise that are as great as the classic titles, just so I can relish the nostalgia (hopefully they'd stick with the style) and greatness. Sadly, the last game that I've heard from this series would be Heroes of Mana for the DS, which was released five years ago.

Right now, Kingdom Hearts would be my favourite series. No words can explain how much I love that series and its characters. <3 Final Fantasy has been declining in quality in recent years, but it's still my second most favourite among SE's franchises (this explains my username-- and yeah, I know it's ironic that FF's just second on my list, given that Cid's originally from the FF series). Third would be The World Ends With You, because I enjoyed playing that game so much and made me crave for new FF's styled like it (come on, SE). Special mention to Chrono Trigger, which I recently discovered. (b'')b

Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Can it be the original trio, SoRiKai? Please? Oh well, I have to choose one, so I'll pick Sora. My interest in Sora went like an inverted bell curve, actually. If it weren't for the recent titles (and quickly replaying the first title, along with recently beating Kingdom Hearts: Re:Chain of Memories) then he wouldn't be my favourite. I just love his character, his style of fighting, his motivation, however much of a Gary Stu he might be.

[KH:DDD spoiler]
I particularly like how they finally make Sora know of Xion through Roxas' acknowledged memories. Or so it seems from that one TWTNW cutscene in the live streams. XD This just made my respect level for Sora rise highly.
Anyway, Sora's awesome. So he's my current favourite. Kairi and Naminé are close runner-ups. Special mention to these Organization XIII members: Roxas, Larxene, Saix, Axel and Xion (listed in decreasing appreciation).

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
I actually wish they'd make versions for XBOX 360 and PS3 along with the eventual console they're gonna make it in (probably PS4? I'm pretty sure KHIII will take about five more years or so), but that's all I can do: wish, and hope they somehow hear it. :(

What two Keyblades would you double wield?
I think if I have to dual-wield, I'll go with Way to Dawn and Two Become One, purely based on aesthetics. :3 I love Oathkeeper the most, though. XD

What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
To be honest, I'm not really creative with names. Ehh... How about Soul Splitter. ;D

What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
I think this is no longer a valid question unless they release a Final Mix version of it or they somehow become generous to the West and improve the North American version. On the other hand, I'd probably like to see worlds in KHIII based on The Jungle Book, The Princess and the Frog and Tangled, to name a few.

What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days. It was the first one I properly beat. And I loved every moment of it. :3
In addition, I wish they would make a Re:358/2 Days included in KHIII Final Mix, at the very least. I will buy that even if they only released it in Japanese. XD

If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
Since I've played Mission Mode of KH: 358/2 Days, I'd go with Vanitas. Wait, no, how about Xehanort? I want some back story from that guy! I mean, he's in every game yet we know nothing about his [geezer] life. It would be a nice change, too. They better include an option/campaign to play as him in KHIII.

Who is your favorite character from The World Ends With You, and why?
Hanekoma. That guy is truly awesome. Special mention to Minamimoto, Shiki, Rhyme, Joshua and Beat.

What Pokémon do you think fits each of the TWEWY characters?
Really, I have to enumerate one for each? Let's see, for the TWEWY characters on the top of my head, Alakazam for Hanekoma, Houndoom for Minamimoto, Mew for Shiki, Pachirisu for Rhyme and Absol for Beat.

[TWEWY spoiler]
Oh, and Arceus for Joshua. ;D
Additionally, I would like to contribute with a conversation topic.

What was your first KH/FF game and what were your thoughts about it?
First Kingdom Hearts game played would be Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories for the GBA, which I never finished on my first try and only actually beat this year. XD Discovering it was a fond memory, especially feeling all the charm brought by having my favourite Disney characters in the game. Admittedly, I mostly didn't get the story, haha. I eventually knew the story from the other games and the internet, though. Now that I think of it, it's probably why I beat it late. :P

First Final Fantasy game played would be Final Fantasy IV Advance on the GBA. I'm a bit late on the Final Fantasy bandwagon, but I really liked that game's story and some of the characters (particularly Kain and Rydia <3). I only started seriously liking it from playing Final Fantasy VI Advance, and after trying out Final Fantasy VII and X, I've been loving the series ever since. :3

I'll add this to the answer, too, since Dragon Quest is also owned by Square-Enix. I've only played one Dragon Quest game: Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride on the DS, and I'm, sadly, uninterested to continue. I wish I'd get motivated, though, especially with that sharp-looking art style reminiscent of Chrono Trigger (I know they both have Akira Toriyama behind the games so that explains it). Oh yeah, is anyone willing to recommend me a good Dragon Quest game?

I just realized how long that post was, so I'm placing a spoiler tag around some of it out of respect. Loving something this much really gets me talking, it seems. XD

ソラ
April 10th, 2012, 01:04 AM
So, I got KH3D on Monday afternoon, I didnt have much of a chance to play it but to beat the Tutorial boss, and beat the first world boss. I want to put this in spoilers tho. I SAW FREAKING RHYME, Its like 2 AM, when I saw her, I yelled saying "YESSS". Hahah being that late I probably woke my mom up cause I started to hear sounds hahaha. So far I really like the game. Im trying my hardest not to spoil anything but like i said Im not that far. :) But I love this game already!

Cid
April 12th, 2012, 04:45 AM
Chances are, my post asking to join this club was buried from last page in your view. So tl;dr that, I want to join because I love SE.
It's great you have it already, Conan. :)
I really want to prove those guys wrong, the ones bashing on KH3D and saying how disappointed they are of the game.

Probably the points (e.g. even more examples of the Kudzu Plot trope, much more than other games combined as exaggerated by someone from the internet; Nomura's taking Sakaguchi's advice way too far) they have would surface later on in the game, though, so I'll wait for you to keep playing and hear your thoughts about it. Not forcing you, though. In fact, I am very glad that you are loving the game.

Cherrim
April 12th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Everyone gets accepted. :D You don't have to wait for a reply~ (Is OP even around anymore?)

KH3D is a lot of fun, but it definitely does feel like a spinoff. Way moreso for me than BBS did, but maybe it's just the fact that we've had so many and even I'm getting tired of them. The game is definitely an improvement to the KH formula. Better graphics, faster/perfected battle system, exploration is a lot better, the minigames are (on the whole) a lot better than most entries... but there are some things that it's just doing oddly. And I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of those.

My only real complaints: maps are too big, cutscenes are... weird? Sometimes for the Disney world plots, they'll give you a cutscene and then prompt you for permission to show you another one instead of just putting them all together... and then you can watch these set up cutscenes from the help menu but those are the only ones with an in-menu theatre mode??? o_O And the drop system (what forces you to switch between Riku & Sora) is kind of annoying, especially since I don't entirely know how it works and for the first while it happens way too fast.

But on the whole, I'm having so much fun with it. @_@ I can't wait for my school term to be over tomorrow so I can just hide away and finish it, haha.

--

My first KH game was KH1, so at least with this series I started out at the beginning. It was my first RPG that wasn't Pokemon so I kind of fell in love with it. I've always really liked Disney and that was the main reason I wanted to try KH out. I'd rented a PS2 for a week and this was one of the games I got. I had to go out and buy my own memory card the moment I started it because I knew I was gonna be hooked. (And I ended up buying a copy of KH1 several months before I even got my PS2... haha.)

But my first FF game was FFX-2. XD; I mean, you'd think of all the series out there, picking a random FF game would be safe because I wouldn't need to know previous titles. (I know there's a 2 right in the title, but in my defence, I had no idea how the FF series worked and until then there had never been a direct sequel so...!) I rented X-2, initially, and I liked it enough to run out and buy X when I had to bring it back so I at least finished those games in order. :P

KH Fan Bixran
April 14th, 2012, 08:58 PM
Omg, i laughed so hard after i watched this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTAMo8kW9hQ&feature

If u look at the end, even yen sid is going "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!"

Cid
April 16th, 2012, 06:47 PM
I'm accepted yay. :D

@Lightning: I can imagine how KH3D might feel like a spin-off after all the experimental systems the fandom has gone through since KHII, which is ironic, given that Sora and Riku star in it (but Chain of Memories was sort of a spin-off). Great to hear that the battle system has improved. Although one of the main selling points of the game, in my opinion, is how huge the worlds are, leading to platforming and exploration that I've missed for so long (returned largely in Re:Coded but yeah).

From that however, I'm not sure if they went a bit overboard with the huge worlds. I'm not liking the thought of having to pace through vast horizontal ground and battling Dream Eaters every step. And that Drop system sounds as if it's better gone than having it interrupt important battles or your own drive to see how a particular plot point is solved in a character's perspective. I hope they have a more complete Theater Mode when you finish the game, just the thought of missing cutscenes in something like that makes no sense.

Your school term's recently over, Lightning? That's great, you've got more time for yourself. :)

--

I'm slightly jealous that you started with the first KH. :P Although I have only played Chain of Memories and 358/2 Days before it, (completed the latter as my first finished KH game) it's still great to finish the first game in the series before the others, because then you'd get what Nomura intends to show you with the sequels. Especially with a series like Kingdom Hearts.

Interesting to hear you started with X-2. Even more interesting is it was good enough for you to play more of the series. I couldn't bring myself to finish the game, not because of the quality or gameplay (both are pretty good) but the notion of having only three characters with the plot focusing on just one main playable character didn't sound like a great premise. Thankfully, it does even out with the class-changing system ("Dresspheres") a la FFV, and with that, I'll probably try finishing it soon.

Omg, i laughed so hard after i watched this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTAMo8kW9hQ&feature

If u look at the end, even yen sid is going "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!"
I'll just tell people that it's a scene from KH3D's (very long) ending.
I laughed a little when I saw that scene for the first time, too.
[KH3D spoiler]
However, I am not particularly happy with Lea getting a Keyblade. It makes sense if they're going into another Keyblade War for KHIII, but it doesn't when you revive someone seemingly dead then give him a Keyblade on the same game, just because the fans loved him that much. Besides, I like him better with chakrams. I really hope things turn out better for Lea, since he is in for a lot of strong emotions from the fandom by getting a Keyblade. Just like Kairi from KHII. And speaking of Kairi, has anyone seen the Secret Ending yet?

Cherrim
April 17th, 2012, 08:43 AM
I'm accepted yay. :D

@Lightning: I can imagine how KH3D might feel like a spin-off after all the experimental systems the fandom has gone through since KHII, which is ironic, given that Sora and Riku star in it (but Chain of Memories was sort of a spin-off). Great to hear that the battle system has improved. Although one of the main selling points of the game, in my opinion, is how huge the worlds are, leading to platforming and exploration that I've missed for so long (returned largely in Re:Coded but yeah).
Yeah, if there's anyone in the fandom who has never really minded spinoffs, it's me. @_@ Chain of Memories was my favourite KH game before BBS came along, I was more excited for Days than anything because I really liked the Organization, and BBS is... well, my favourite game of all time now. XD; Re:Coded even gets a little bit of a pass from me because it's not THAT bad a game when I remember it was originally entirely a cell phone game. I just thought it was horribly implemented and the fact that I'd seen grainy footage of the only important part (the end) long before the remake was even announced made it not worth it for me. :P But 3D... well, it feels fine and it looks even better than BBS did so graphically. It's just got a lot of the disjointed world feel that BBS suffered from because they split up the protagonists. So you have to skip around through characters to get the whole story and since they literally pull you out of one character and throw you into another at (somewhat) random, it's hard to consider it on the same level as KH1 or 2.
From that however, I'm not sure if they went a bit overboard with the huge worlds. I'm not liking the thought of having to pace through vast horizontal ground and battling Dream Eaters every step. And that Drop system sounds as if it's better gone than having it interrupt important battles or your own drive to see how a particular plot point is solved in a character's perspective. I hope they have a more complete Theater Mode when you finish the game, just the thought of missing cutscenes in something like that makes no sense.
The worlds aren't necessarily large horizontally--actually what makes the game both great and easy to get lost in is how expansive the worlds are in, no pun or anything intended, a three-dimensional way. Because of the Free Flow Action system, you can pretty much infinitely wall jump if you're good at it (and it's not hard). So they have a lot of ledges and rooftops and areas that you can't access without FFA and it's really easy to miss a lot of them. But it's nice because you can do all of this from the moment you're dropped (pun intended!) into the action. So once you're in an area, you can get ANYWHERE in it by climbing up the walls, sliding over pipes to new buildings, etc. When my end-game stats came up, I'd already capped my wall jump FFA as my most-used technique at 999 uses, haha.

The drop system was very silly by the end of the game. XD; I was playing as Riku and was nearly out of time, so I went ahead and dropped into Sora. I played as him for a while and when I ran out of time, it switched me back to Riku. I took THREE STEPS and because I wasn't supposed to move on with him yet (Sora had to catch up), it plot-dropped me back into Sora. Like... why even bother with the drop gauge at that point? ;_;

[KH3D spoiler]
However, I am not particularly happy with Lea getting a Keyblade. It makes sense if they're going into another Keyblade War for KHIII, but it doesn't when you revive someone seemingly dead then give him a Keyblade on the same game, just because the fans loved him that much. Besides, I like him better with chakrams. I really hope things turn out better for Lea, since he is in for a lot of strong emotions from the fandom by getting a Keyblade. Just like Kairi from KHII. And speaking of Kairi, has anyone seen the Secret Ending yet?
Finished the game last night, despite a lot of glitches during the boss fights. I'm glad I didn't click the original spoiler before that. XD;

Spoilers for 3D Ending
I've had a lot of time to come to terms with Lea getting a keyblade because in one of the earlier trailers, they pretty much outright implied it. (Same with halfway through the game--they take the audio out when Lea comes right out and says he wants to train with one, but it's pretty obvious why he's standing in Yen Sid's office.) I think the only surprise from Yen Sid, at least, was that Lea could all of a sudden summon the keyblade since it sounded like he hadn't been able to manage it yet. (And of course he summons a cool one instead of the basic Kingdom Key that is all Sora/Roxas/Xion could ever naturally manage. XD)

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it kind of makes sense that they're giving away keyblades like prizes on an Oprah show. ("Look under your seats everyone... you're all taking home a BRAND NEW KEYBLAAAAADE!!!") After the events of BBS, as far as everyone knew, there were only two keyblade wielders alive in the world--Mickey and Yen Sid. TAV were missing, Master Eraqus was gone, Master Xehanort was missing, and even Mickey was only an apprentice at that point. I'm pretty sure the Xehanort Reports (or something) in BBS implied that even during the events of BBS, there was an abnormally low number of keyblade users still around. With Sora being able to bring so many people closer together, they probably see him as sort of a gateway to getting more keyblade wielders that will work toward the light. So I think we'll probably end up seeing a few more users pop up around Sora before the story is through. That way, if anything does happen to one, two, or a group of them, the weapon's lineage doesn't totally die out.

I'm still a little lost on some plot points in the game. x_X My "dream" vocabulary in Japanese is apparently HORRIBLE and oftentimes all I had was my phone to decipher some kanji so I didn't even bother. I want to go back to some of the more important scenes that I didn't totally understand and translate them properly so I know wtf is going on... but I'm still probably going to be relying on the Ultimania release in a few weeks for the interviews that usually explain everything anyway. (My "hearts" vocab is still top-knotch though: in one of the ending scenes, they stopped talking about dreams entirely and started talking about hearts like they usually do in this series and I didn't have to pause to look something up even once. XD)

Railgun
April 17th, 2012, 10:36 AM
Wanting to join. I have played Crystal Bearers,KH games and also FF 13 and as a matter of fact I just got FF 13-2 in the mail today. so I have played a few Square games :) Right now trying to beat Vanitas in BBS

KH Fan Bixran
April 17th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Wanting to join. I have played Crystal Bearers,KH games and also FF 13 and as a matter of fact I just got FF 13-2 in the mail today. so I have played a few Square games :) Right now trying to beat Vanitas in BBS

Which vanitas fight? One of aqua's, or one of ven's?

Also, my friends refuse to give me a straight answer to this: [kh3d spoiler]
Who would win between Young Xehanort(aka mf from bbs) and Sephiroth?

Also(again xD), i know that riku will get dark aura as a command! Look up chaosaura on youtube, and find either the final boss fight or young xehanort fight. It is epic!

Railgun
April 17th, 2012, 12:30 PM
Which vanitas fight? One of aqua's, or one of ven's?

Also, my friends refuse to give me a straight answer to this: [kh3d spoiler]
Who would win between Young Xehanort(aka mf from bbs) and Sephiroth?

Also(again xD), i know that riku will get dark aura as a command! Look up chaosaura on youtube, and find either the final boss fight or young xehanort fight. It is epic!

Oh my bad Ven's fight. I got to the last battle where you have dark attacks.

ソラ
April 17th, 2012, 01:08 PM
Which vanitas fight? One of aqua's, or one of ven's?

Also, my friends refuse to give me a straight answer to this: [kh3d spoiler]
Who would win between Young Xehanort(aka mf from bbs) and Sephiroth?

Also(again xD), i know that riku will get dark aura as a command! Look up chaosaura on youtube, and find either the final boss fight or young xehanort fight. It is epic!

I hope you know, I didnt know who MF was in BBS, would like it if you use SPOILER TAGS please?

Im at the end, just doing some training some of the bosses are mean ):

Cherrim
April 17th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Hope you don't mind I edited posts to add the spoiler tag. As far as those go, that's kind of a huge one. :s Please use the tag! (You're lucky I beat it last night and wasn't spoilt!)

As for the question itself, I think there's no argument. xD;
Sephiroth has no chance when MF/YX can turn back time in the middle of a battle. :( As far as fights go, I fought KH2's Sephiroth very easy compared to YX.

Oh my bad Ven's fight. I got to the last battle where you have dark attacks.
The first time I did that fight, I won entirely with Thunder Roll. Every time after that, I found it impossible to do the fight with anything but Dodge Roll since his attacks would hit me all the time. (Thunder Roll, while doing damage, doesn't have the invincibility frames that Dodge Roll has.) I think I just spammed Tornado and lock shots in my LV 1 run. :s

KH Fan Bixran
April 21st, 2012, 04:23 PM
i wanna make a PO team themed around KH3D (at least, what ive seen of it lol), but i just cant seem to find good ones to fit the characters. for those that have played kh3d, could yall help me out here?

also, OU pokes, if able

characters i wanna try to fit into team(list will exceed 6):
Sora(duh)
Riku(even more duh xD)
Axel/Lea(fire type needed lol)
mickey(fast poke)
Braig(really not sure xp)
Mstr/Yng Xehanort(maybe lol)
Vanitas(gotta think abut him)
Ansem SoD/Xemnas(like i said, maybe)
Isa(heavy hitter, though not sure lol)

heh heh, longer list than i wanted (but at least im sure to have 6 pokes lol)

got a feeling you guys will be able to help more with this that the twewy team i wanted a while back xD

Archer
April 21st, 2012, 05:14 PM
also, OU pokes, if able

characters i wanna try to fit into team(list will exceed 6):
Sora(duh)
Riku Lucario
Axel/Lea Infernape
mickey Cinccino
Braig Absol
Mstr/Yng Xehanort Alakazam
Vanitas Zoroark
Ansem SoD/Xemnas(like i said, maybe)
Isa(heavy hitter, though not sure lol)

I don't know about all OU, but here's a few ideas. :D If you don't mind a few NU/UUs. Edits above in bold. ^^

Back to other Squeenix discussion, I'm playing through FFX at the moment. I was most of the way through ages ago, until my memory card died, so I didn't bother starting over. This time, I'm emulating my own disc (PCSX2) on my PC so I can a. Render the game at 1920x1440, which is a massive improvement over the PS2's 640x480, and b. backup the memory card continuously with Dropbox.

I was younger when I first played it, so going through now with so much more understanding makes it such a great game. I love turn-based battle systems, so it's going to be difficult to move to another FF game after this. (Obviously FFX-2 is next, then I might do FFXII, which went down with the same memory card)

Kevin
April 22nd, 2012, 12:03 PM
(Is OP even around anymore?)YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS whew sorry I've been buried with schoolwork, but I'll be more active in the summer (hopefully).

Anyways yeah everyone's accepted and I added your names in the top post; if I accidentally skipped you then just tell me.

Omg, i laughed so hard after i watched this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTAMo8kW9hQ&feature

If u look at the end, even yen sid is going "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!"Bahaha I love how everyone is like: "Whatttttttttt?"

And yeah post spoilers tags (that's one of the rules--although it's not like anyone really reads rules these days but it's common sense hehe).

I can't wait for August, or whenever KH3D comes out. I've been spoiling myself this whole time (though it's not like I really care, haha). ;___;

Cid
April 26th, 2012, 04:23 AM
Yeah, if there's anyone in the fandom who has never really minded spinoffs, it's me. @_@ Chain of Memories was my favourite KH game before BBS came along, I was more excited for Days than anything because I really liked the Organization, and BBS is... well, my favourite game of all time now. XD; Re:Coded even gets a little bit of a pass from me because it's not THAT bad a game when I remember it was originally entirely a cell phone game. I just thought it was horribly implemented and the fact that I'd seen grainy footage of the only important part (the end) long before the remake was even announced made it not worth it for me. :P But 3D... well, it feels fine and it looks even better than BBS did so graphically. It's just got a lot of the disjointed world feel that BBS suffered from because they split up the protagonists. So you have to skip around through characters to get the whole story and since they literally pull you out of one character and throw you into another at (somewhat) random, it's hard to consider it on the same level as KH1 or 2.
I actually don't mind the spinoffs myself. I think the KH production team doesn't have that much time to keep churning out "non-spinoffs" in the likes of KH and KHII, but I'm sure they're still giving everything they've got with the games outside the consoles like how you expect SE would. Regarding these spinoffs, I'm a fan of CoM more than BBS from my brother's influence. We never really liked BBS's disjointed narrative, nor the flat worlds, but I do secretly love Ventus and Aqua behind my bro's back, haha. I enjoyed Re:Coded because it was KH, and the gameplay just sucked me in and made me not care about how shallow the story and characters are in that specific game. Hearing that KH3D looks even better than BBS is wonderful. But that disjointed feel, sure, part of me's thinking "Oh no, not again," but Sora and Riku's presence might be enough to redeem that. I actually wonder how KH3D or even BBS would play if you can only use Sora in KH3D (or Riku, seems his role is sliiightly bigger that Sora, it's up to you guys to decide) and only Aqua in BBS. Could they have fleshed out the narratives that way, maybe make the character exclusive cutscenes watchable by the player intermittently in the main character's story?

The worlds aren't necessarily large horizontally--actually what makes the game both great and easy to get lost in is how expansive the worlds are in, no pun or anything intended, a three-dimensional way. Because of the Free Flow Action system, you can pretty much infinitely wall jump if you're good at it (and it's not hard). So they have a lot of ledges and rooftops and areas that you can't access without FFA and it's really easy to miss a lot of them. But it's nice because you can do all of this from the moment you're dropped (pun intended!) into the action. So once you're in an area, you can get ANYWHERE in it by climbing up the walls, sliding over pipes to new buildings, etc. When my end-game stats came up, I'd already capped my wall jump FFA as my most-used technique at 999 uses, haha.
I see. That sounds grand and exciting to me, and the very first KH3D trailer might have influenced this direction they went with. I cannot wait to indulge myself in Free Flow, although the premise still sounds too genuine and unfamiliar. Oh well, I think I'll still enjoy it, especially because you mentioned the expansive worlds. Sounds cool.

The drop system was very silly by the end of the game. XD; I was playing as Riku and was nearly out of time, so I went ahead and dropped into Sora. I played as him for a while and when I ran out of time, it switched me back to Riku. I took THREE STEPS and because I wasn't supposed to move on with him yet (Sora had to catch up), it plot-dropped me back into Sora. Like... why even bother with the drop gauge at that point? ;_;
Haha, that must have been awkward. The game should at least know when you're close to plot-drops, but I can't imagine how they can do something like that. I guess introducing a system like that can occasionally bring awkward situations.

Finished the game last night, despite a lot of glitches during the boss fights. I'm glad I didn't click the original spoiler before that. XD;

Spoilers for 3D Ending
I've had a lot of time to come to terms with Lea getting a keyblade because in one of the earlier trailers, they pretty much outright implied it. (Same with halfway through the game--they take the audio out when Lea comes right out and says he wants to train with one, but it's pretty obvious why he's standing in Yen Sid's office.) I think the only surprise from Yen Sid, at least, was that Lea could all of a sudden summon the keyblade since it sounded like he hadn't been able to manage it yet. (And of course he summons a cool one instead of the basic Kingdom Key that is all Sora/Roxas/Xion could ever naturally manage. XD)

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it kind of makes sense that they're giving away keyblades like prizes on an Oprah show. ("Look under your seats everyone... you're all taking home a BRAND NEW KEYBLAAAAADE!!!") After the events of BBS, as far as everyone knew, there were only two keyblade wielders alive in the world--Mickey and Yen Sid. TAV were missing, Master Eraqus was gone, Master Xehanort was missing, and even Mickey was only an apprentice at that point. I'm pretty sure the Xehanort Reports (or something) in BBS implied that even during the events of BBS, there was an abnormally low number of keyblade users still around. With Sora being able to bring so many people closer together, they probably see him as sort of a gateway to getting more keyblade wielders that will work toward the light. So I think we'll probably end up seeing a few more users pop up around Sora before the story is through. That way, if anything does happen to one, two, or a group of them, the weapon's lineage doesn't totally die out.
Glitches! Whoa. But you finished the game already. That's pretty awesome.
[KH3D spoilers]
I never really assumed this from the early trailers. I guess it actually surprised me that Lea wasn't just trying to look for Roxas/Sora again, and that he wants to be a Keyblade master himself. I did notice Yen Sid's surprise, and I have seen a subbed video of it indicating that Axel hasn't really summoned his until that exact moment. At least I like how the Keyblade looks somewhat.

Haha, that Oprah comparison has been made around the fanbase for quite some time, and it still cracks me up. I guess the whole influx of Keyblades does make sense in some way, but I'm one of those fans who are still trying to cope with the concept of having dozens of Keyblade wielders. Makes the Keyblade less special by every released game. I don't think the Keyblade wielders will be eliminated at their current number anytime soon, especially with the villain wielding his own. Moreover, there are at least two accounts of Keyblade wielders popping up with the skill that didn't need the Keyblade inheritance ceremony, Sora being one I think, so at least that can avoid the possibility of its lineage dying out.

I'm still a little lost on some plot points in the game. x_X My "dream" vocabulary in Japanese is apparently HORRIBLE and oftentimes all I had was my phone to decipher some kanji so I didn't even bother. I want to go back to some of the more important scenes that I didn't totally understand and translate them properly so I know wtf is going on... but I'm still probably going to be relying on the Ultimania release in a few weeks for the interviews that usually explain everything anyway. (My "hearts" vocab is still top-knotch though: in one of the ending scenes, they stopped talking about dreams entirely and started talking about hearts like they usually do in this series and I didn't have to pause to look something up even once. XD)
Interesting to hear you have reserved vocabularies for the KH terms that pop-up on games you order in Japanese, haha. Even more awesome that you can understand the vocabulary regarding hearts like that. The Ultimania's contents that explain all this plot that gets more twists every game make me want to get this one, too (the only Ultimania we have was the 358/2 Days one), but I'll probably only settle with the online translations when they surface eventually. It's hard to get copies of it, after all. The first thing I'll read would probably be the usual Nomura interview that talks about the future of the series.

Also, my friends refuse to give me a straight answer to this: [kh3d spoiler]
Who would win between Young Xehanort(aka mf from bbs) and Sephiroth?

Also(again xD), i know that riku will get dark aura as a command! Look up chaosaura on youtube, and find either the final boss fight or young xehanort fight. It is epic!
[KH3D spoilers]
Judging from MF's BBS appearance and Sephiroth's KHII appearance, I say MF takes the cake. That guy was freakin' hard, granted since I was using sluggish Terra against him, but still. Sephiroth was much easier, besides Lightning mentioned MF's time-bending powers. That would beat Sephiroth enough on its own.
And Riku getting Dark Aura was pretty much a given. I expected as much. Cool command to have, that's for sure.

The first time I did that fight, I won entirely with Thunder Roll. Every time after that, I found it impossible to do the fight with anything but Dodge Roll since his attacks would hit me all the time. (Thunder Roll, while doing damage, doesn't have the invincibility frames that Dodge Roll has.) I think I just spammed Tornado and lock shots in my LV 1 run. :s
I only fought with Terra on that one, my other characters' saves were corrupted. And my only commands were Thunder Surge and Curaga, since the whole fight begs for invulnerability, healing and luck. Tons of luck for Terra. Oh yeah, that LV 1 run you mentioned that includes secret bosses sounds unbelievable! Whoa.

i wanna make a PO team themed around KH3D (at least, what ive seen of it lol), but i just cant seem to find good ones to fit the characters. for those that have played kh3d, could yall help me out here?
I'm not sure a PO team based on the KH series sounds fun, although an in-game challenge a la Nuzlocke wouldn't be half-bad. Why not try that? I'll just throw in the first OU Pokémon that pops in my head for each of the first six characters you mentioned. Sora, Jolteon; Riku, Gliscor; Axel, Volcarona; Mickey, Reuniclus; Braig, Skarmory; Master Xehanort, Gengar. There you go, a complete party that I didn't check for compatibility whatsoever, haha.

Back to other Squeenix discussion, I'm playing through FFX at the moment. I was most of the way through ages ago, until my memory card died, so I didn't bother starting over. This time, I'm emulating my own disc (PCSX2) on my PC so I can a. Render the game at 1920x1440, which is a massive improvement over the PS2's 640x480, and b. backup the memory card continuously with Dropbox.

I was younger when I first played it, so going through now with so much more understanding makes it such a great game. I love turn-based battle systems, so it's going to be difficult to move to another FF game after this. (Obviously FFX-2 is next, then I might do FFXII, which went down with the same memory card)
That's cool, I wonder how that could change the experience of playing FFX. I agree, I enjoyed the turn-based battle system of FFX and how much it strengthened the gameplay. FFX-2 also has a good battle system (Active Time Battle, like FFIV to FFIX, although the Dresspheres are more akin to FFV), but I still can't bring myself to finish it.

I can't wait for August, or whenever KH3D comes out. I've been spoiling myself this whole time (though it's not like I really care, haha). ;___;
I also cannot wait for August (July 31 NA release but yeah) and I have similarly spoiled myself, too. I don't mind it this time, I still left a lot of things to discover that can still make me want to play it badly anyway.

Cherrim
April 26th, 2012, 06:01 AM
sdkfsls so much to talk about. i love you. :D [apologies for the sheer length of this post, lmfao]
We never really liked BBS's disjointed narrative, nor the flat worlds, but I do secretly love Ventus and Aqua behind my bro's back, haha. I enjoyed Re:Coded because it was KH, and the gameplay just sucked me in and made me not care about how shallow the story and characters are in that specific game. Hearing that KH3D looks even better than BBS is wonderful. But that disjointed feel, sure, part of me's thinking "Oh no, not again," but Sora and Riku's presence might be enough to redeem that. I actually wonder how KH3D or even BBS would play if you can only use Sora in KH3D (or Riku, seems his role is sliiightly bigger that Sora, it's up to you guys to decide) and only Aqua in BBS. Could they have fleshed out the narratives that way, maybe make the character exclusive cutscenes watchable by the player intermittently in the main character's story?
I didn't really mind the disjointedness in BBS. But I also zoomed through the game REALLY quick almost every time I played it. (I think my longest playthrough was my level 1 one, which was the 4th or 5th time I played it, and it only took me a few weeks, I think.) I think if you play it quickly, since the worlds are so short, each character finishes their story with enough time for you to remember what they did by the time you get to the same worlds with the next. Also, I know a lot of people who played all three at once, so they'd complete a world and then go do the same world with the other two. Each character's story was certainly more engaging that COM's though, I thought. Sora's plot was always interesting but perhaps because I hate Riku and disliked most of the Organization in the basement, I never ever like playing Riku's side of COM and the first few worlds of it, anyway, are horribly empty. BBS was a step in the right direction when handling extra protagonists, at the very least. I liked that you could choose the order you wanted to play the characters in and none of them felt like an afterthought like Riku always did to me in COM, but I agree that playing the whole story through when it's supposed to be intertwined was kind of awkward. :( At least with COM, aside from Vexen and then the very end, there was pretty much no overlap between Riku and Sora's stories so it didn't really matter if you played Riku's side two years later the day before KH2 came out because you'd been horribly underlevelled when you got to Marluxia in Sora's side and it took that long to beat him so you barely remembered what happened with Sora. Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything. Gosh.

What could have been interesting--and I kind of want to sit down all day and think about how the plot would have veered off course if it had happened--is if they'd had the BBS trio go everywhere together. It would have solved too many problems and made them somewhat invincible though, I think, so plot-wise it just wouldn't work. (Ven would never have gotten into trouble on his own, Terra would have had the babysitter he needed, and Aqua would have been able to smack the boys when they started making the problems that she always ended up fixing at the end.) If they'd stuck together, you could've just picked which one you wanted to play as and the others would be handled as party members like Donald or Goofy. That would've been awesome! But... way too overpowering. XD; They were hax enough together in the Mirage Arena or even in the Radiant Garden boss. They also lagged the game too much so I guess another part of it was system restraints. :P I think it was handled fairly well, though, when you consider it's a handheld game.

Really, the only thing I liked more about how 3D handled two protagonists at once was that they shared all their commands and pets. The first thing I always have to do in BBS when I play it is do some command board grinding so I get an awesome set of commands early on. And then I have to do it for the other two when I play as them and it takes FOREVER. ;_; But there wasn't any of that in this game. When I found air slide, both of them had air slide. When I got high jump, they shared it. There are some things that are Riku-only or Sora-only (like their payback attacks out of guarding/getting hit and some commands--like Riku uses some attacks with darkness and Sora gets some Ven exclusives) but for the most part, anything you find can be used by both. It made the two of them play almost identically which was a little boring (I actually kind of liked how BBS nearly forced me to abandon magic as Terra because he was SO BAD AT IT and that's all I do in the games, usually [not that it worked too well because I distinctly remember using lots of magic with Terra anyway]).

Oh dear, I got started talking about BBS again. ._.; I love that game too much for my own good.

I see. That sounds grand and exciting to me, and the very first KH3D trailer might have influenced this direction they went with. I cannot wait to indulge myself in Free Flow, although the premise still sounds too genuine and unfamiliar. Oh well, I think I'll still enjoy it, especially because you mentioned the expansive worlds. Sounds cool.

Haha, that must have been awkward. The game should at least know when you're close to plot-drops, but I can't imagine how they can do something like that. I guess introducing a system like that can occasionally bring awkward situations.
Yeah, the expansive worlds are nice but the maps are just too big! One part I mentioned was all the treasure chests--there's sooo many to find and if you don't meticulously check your journal each time you get to a new section of a world to make sure you've gotten all of them, it's SO annoying to go back and try to find what you missed. D: It was easy enough if I did collection while making my way through the plot of each world but I didn't start doing that until more than halfway through the game, really, so I'm still missing chests with Sora. T_T; Also if you go through a big section of a room and then die in a hallway on the way to the next one, you still have to do everything over so that's pretty annoying too. XD;

And yes, the plot-drops were awkward, but I'm pretty sure there were really only two or three of them in the entire game, so I can't reeeeally complain. I wish they'd used them a bit more so the one I mentioned wasn't so abrupt and unexpected, though. Or they could have used them a bit earlier on when I finished Riku's story a world ahead of Sora's and it wouldn't let me progress to the second half of the game until Sora had caught up. x_X; So every time it would drop me back into Riku, I'd have NOTHING to do so I went to collect the treasure chests I'd forgotten about.
Glitches! Whoa. But you finished the game already. That's pretty awesome.
[KH3D spoilers]
I never really assumed this from the early trailers. I guess it actually surprised me that Lea wasn't just trying to look for Roxas/Sora again, and that he wants to be a Keyblade master himself. I did notice Yen Sid's surprise, and I have seen a subbed video of it indicating that Axel hasn't really summoned his until that exact moment. At least I like how the Keyblade looks somewhat.

Haha, that Oprah comparison has been made around the fanbase for quite some time, and it still cracks me up. I guess the whole influx of Keyblades does make sense in some way, but I'm one of those fans who are still trying to cope with the concept of having dozens of Keyblade wielders. Makes the Keyblade less special by every released game. I don't think the Keyblade wielders will be eliminated at their current number anytime soon, especially with the villain wielding his own. Moreover, there are at least two accounts of Keyblade wielders popping up with the skill that didn't need the Keyblade inheritance ceremony, Sora being one I think, so at least that can avoid the possibility of its lineage dying out.
I pretty much assumed it just because he was standing in Yen Sid's office and I think he said something really open ended that included the word "training"? I can't remember at this point, anymore. I just know that since that first long trailer came out for KH3D last year, I've known Lea would become a Keyblade apprentice. :x His keyblade is nicer than the previous keyblades associated with him. It's not as tacky looking as Bond of Flame and not nearly as lame as the keyblade you get based on his "weapons" in BBS with Ven. XD; It's pretty! But it'll still take lots of getting used to over his chakrams. It'd be cool if he used both in battle, though. (I'm kind of hoping he'll get his own spinoff game to show his training because the chances of other Organization members being the people he meets along the way are pretty high and I would just die of excitement if Marluxia showed up. n____n Axel's popular enough to drive sales for a game so... so hopefully this could be a thing one day?)

I'm not bothered by the amount of keyblades. I mean, they've been hinting at multiples since the first game when Mickey had his own in his brief appearance in the Darkness, right? In fact, Riku and Sora fighting over the one keyblade confuses me so much now because I'm so used to there being multiples. Especially since Sora? Yeah... he can't actually use the Keyblade naturally. Riku can use it because Terra passed it on to him. I think Kairi can use it because Aqua accidentally passed it on to her. No clue how/why Lea gets his (I guess maybe from Roxas or Xion?? Or from getting hit by a keyblade too many times! *shot*). But Sora only has his because Ven is in his heart. I think Xemnas implies at the end of KH3D that they were worried about using Sora as a vessel because he can't use a Keyblade as naturally as Roxas could. Or something like that? All I know is Sora looks confused, then hurt, then decides that even if he can only use the Keyblade because of his ~friends~, that's okay. It's really cheesy. XD;

Actually, I'm tossing this out of the spoiler because I'm confused and hoping someone can refresh my memory: why did the Keyblade switch between Riku and Sora in KH1? At the time, it seemed like it was because there could only be one Keyblade at a time so it had to choose between them and it preferred Sora's light over Riku's darkness but... was that really the case? Even if the Keyblade *did* prefer darkness and stopped working for Riku, why would that affect Sora's? The same sort of thing happened with Roxas and Xion but I always assumed that was more because Xion couldn't naturally use the Keyblade. (And now I feel the need to go check on when we first actually *see* her using it. Isn't it not until she picks up Roxas's? Is that when the ability to use it was passed on to her, even if only accidentally?)
Interesting to hear you have reserved vocabularies for the KH terms that pop-up on games you order in Japanese, haha. Even more awesome that you can understand the vocabulary regarding hearts like that. The Ultimania's contents that explain all this plot that gets more twists every game make me want to get this one, too (the only Ultimania we have was the 358/2 Days one), but I'll probably only settle with the online translations when they surface eventually. It's hard to get copies of it, after all. The first thing I'll read would probably be the usual Nomura interview that talks about the future of the series.
I've studied Japanese since I was 11 and the only words I knew were pretty much related to Yu-Gi-Oh since that was my obsession in my early teen years. Then I studied it in a classroom setting in high school for a few years. Since grade 11 though, the only way I've really kept up with my Japanese is playing import games. I've imported every KH game since KH2:FM (with the exception of Re:Coded... thank god xD) and after playing through them all, even if the FMs are in English, you reeeally start to get a feel for the vocabulary that usually happens. I remember having no problems understanding any of Days (although I never bothered with the journals which, iirc, actually revealed a fair bit of backstory). In BBS, the only thing that confused me was the χ-blade because they were saying "Keyblade" to my ears but all I could make out in the subs were xblade and it would bewilder me so much every time it came up. XD So yeah, overall, most of my Japanese vocabulary is actually tied to KH. I'm finally taking classes again in university starting May so it'll be interesting to see if I'm any good at the language academically, despite being pretty good (imo) at understanding fandom-y things on my own. :x

I'm soooo excited for the Ultimania to come out. xD My birthday present from my parents was help paying for my 3DS and KH3D and my brother said he'd get me the Ultimania for it when it came out. So it was a very KH birthday, hahaha. I mostly want it to help with completion because when it comes to some sections of the journal, I am *completely lost* with how to do it. So I've put the game down until then. I'd also really like to read the interviews, too, because I have a lot more questions about this game than I did about most of the others and the interviews in the Ultimanias are usually brilliant for clearing things up. (I also want the 3D one because it's the only one, aside from the one for the original KH, that I don't own.)
[KH3D spoilers]
Judging from MF's BBS appearance and Sephiroth's KHII appearance, I say MF takes the cake. That guy was freakin' hard, granted since I was using sluggish Terra against him, but still. Sephiroth was much easier, besides Lightning mentioned MF's time-bending powers. That would beat Sephiroth enough on its own.
Omg you used Terra against him? You poor, poor thing. ;_; I've had to fight MF with Terra twice and I hated it both times. He's SO BAD AT DODGING which is essentially what you need to be doing 100% of the time in that fight. I'm pretty sure he was a good 10-15 levels higher than Aqua was when I beat MF with her just to offset his bad dodges. XD; As a trade-off, he did a lot more damage since my strategy is usually to just spam a blitz/surge attack (I forget which term is the English one), but ugggh trying to dodge the laser attack or whatever? Almost impossible. Ugh! XD;
I only fought with Terra on that one, my other characters' saves were corrupted. And my only commands were Thunder Surge and Curaga, since the whole fight begs for invulnerability, healing and luck. Tons of luck for Terra. Oh yeah, that LV 1 run you mentioned that includes secret bosses sounds unbelievable! Whoa.
I think I was talking about Ven's final boss fight, not the extra fight. Curaga's bad for that fight! Every time you heal, he heals... so you have to use potions. :P My LV1 run never really included any secret bosses. I think I might have done VS on my Aqua file but I'm pretty sure MF is literally impossible at LV1 since after he's halfway, he heals every time you get a critical hit in. At LV1, I assume each hit you deal him is normally 1 damage so if he healed every time you crit hit, it would just be impossible to get him all the way down. :( Also the fight would take like three hours, haha. The bosses after MF in Final Mix are pretty ridiculous too so I made a new file with Aqua that wasn't level 1 when I took those on. (I did do all *plot* at LV1, so that extra boss in the World of Darkness with her was still part of my challenge. That was so exhilarating, to fight a boss I'd never fought before at that difficulty. I went back like a year later with a save from my not-level-1 file and the boss just wasn't as fun since it died too quickly. XD;
That's cool, I wonder how that could change the experience of playing FFX. I agree, I enjoyed the turn-based battle system of FFX and how much it strengthened the gameplay. FFX-2 also has a good battle system (Active Time Battle, like FFIV to FFIX, although the Dresspheres are more akin to FFV), but I still can't bring myself to finish it.
I never liked the turn-based system in FFX all that much. It might be because, aside from Pokemon, almost all the games I play are fairly action-based. All the Final Fantasies I like at least have the ATB to make things more dynamic, Kingdom Hearts is as much action as it is role-playing, and Tales of is realtime. Those are all my favourite kinds of RPGs so going back to play FFX just seems... difficult. I do remember enjoying it when I started playing it again last year but my disc is scratched so I couldn't get very far anyway. ;~;
Back to other Squeenix discussion, I'm playing through FFX at the moment. I was most of the way through ages ago, until my memory card died, so I didn't bother starting over. This time, I'm emulating my own disc (PCSX2) on my PC so I can a. Render the game at 1920x1440, which is a massive improvement over the PS2's 640x480, and b. backup the memory card continuously with Dropbox.
That's such a good idea. It must be absolutely gorgeous! I remember emulating a bit of KH Re:COM once so I could take a screenshot of something pretty early on and it was really pretty. I totally forgot about it until now, but I think next FF I replay will get that same treatment. :D
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS whew sorry I've been buried with schoolwork, but I'll be more active in the summer (hopefully).
You liiiiive. <3 Welcome back, haha.
I can't wait for August, or whenever KH3D comes out. I've been spoiling myself this whole time (though it's not like I really care, haha). ;___;
I also cannot wait for August (July 31 NA release but yeah) and I have similarly spoiled myself, too. I don't mind it this time, I still left a lot of things to discover that can still make me want to play it badly anyway.
The battle system and controls are worth it even if you know the whole plot already. *u* The game itself is so much fun!

Archer
April 26th, 2012, 07:09 AM
That's such a good idea. It must be absolutely gorgeous! I remember emulating a bit of KH Re:COM once so I could take a screenshot of something pretty early on and it was really pretty. I totally forgot about it until now, but I think next FF I replay will get that same treatment. :D

Yeah, I grabbed a few screenshots, I think. Not that many, though. There's a few things that stand out. Large areas, such as the Calm Lands, are clear and crisp to the horizon, not a blurry green mess. Finer details, such as the textures on certain fiends and characters are surprising. Other textures show how bland they are, so you win some you lose some. :P

Even things like a cat in a tent in Besaid. The amount of detail on the face of something you would normally barely be able to make out is brilliant.

I did the same thing with KH2 (I ripped my own discs, before anyone asks). In a way, the simpler "cartoon" textures were better on KH2, because it all scaled so well at that res. Although you can't use any Antialiasing, which is quite evident at higher resolutions. If you have a decent PC, it's strongly recommended. Might try Final Mix at some stage. :P

Cherrim
April 26th, 2012, 09:36 AM
Yeah, I grabbed a few screenshots, I think. Not that many, though. There's a few things that stand out. Large areas, such as the Calm Lands, are clear and crisp to the horizon, not a blurry green mess. Finer details, such as the textures on certain fiends and characters are surprising. Other textures show how bland they are, so you win some you lose some. :P

Even things like a cat in a tent in Besaid. The amount of detail on the face of something you would normally barely be able to make out is brilliant.

I did the same thing with KH2 (I ripped my own discs, before anyone asks). In a way, the simpler "cartoon" textures were better on KH2, because it all scaled so well at that res. Although you can't use any Antialiasing, which is quite evident at higher resolutions. If you have a decent PC, it's strongly recommended. Might try Final Mix at some stage. :P
Yeah, when I've emulated N64, I found anything polygon-based looked amazing but things like background/setting textures didn't hold up so well. I probably wouldn't play at too high a resolution to avoid that somewhat, but the rest of the graphics usually make up for it. HUDs are also kind of disappointing sometimes. XD; If text/icons on the battle screen and whatnot are pre-rendered and stored as small images, they usually look horrible blown up and it's always so obvious next to everything else.

I'm pretty sure I just used my own disc drive when I was playing Re:COM. :3 I wouldn't be adverse to just downloading the games I already own though. Too lazy to figure out how to rip them properly. n_n

Cid
April 28th, 2012, 12:38 AM
In bold.
sdkfsls so much to talk about. i love you. :D [apologies for the sheer length of this post, lmfao]

I didn't really mind the disjointedness in BBS. But I also zoomed through the game REALLY quick almost every time I played it. (I think my longest playthrough was my level 1 one, which was the 4th or 5th time I played it, and it only took me a few weeks, I think.) I think if you play it quickly, since the worlds are so short, each character finishes their story with enough time for you to remember what they did by the time you get to the same worlds with the next. Also, I know a lot of people who played all three at once, so they'd complete a world and then go do the same world with the other two. Each character's story was certainly more engaging that COM's though, I thought. Sora's plot was always interesting but perhaps because I hate Riku and disliked most of the Organization in the basement, I never ever like playing Riku's side of COM and the first few worlds of it, anyway, are horribly empty. BBS was a step in the right direction when handling extra protagonists, at the very least. I liked that you could choose the order you wanted to play the characters in and none of them felt like an afterthought like Riku always did to me in COM, but I agree that playing the whole story through when it's supposed to be intertwined was kind of awkward. :( At least with COM, aside from Vexen and then the very end, there was pretty much no overlap between Riku and Sora's stories so it didn't really matter if you played Riku's side two years later the day before KH2 came out because you'd been horribly underlevelled when you got to Marluxia in Sora's side and it took that long to beat him so you barely remembered what happened with Sora. Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything. Gosh.
I never really stopped myself from disliking BBS's disjointedness, so I think it's my fault that I didn't enjoy it as much as COM. Even though the latter wasn't even as rich in plot during Reverse/Rebirth like you said. Anyway, I found it annoying how much story they could have placed in BBS, COM or even 358/2 Days, and couldn't due to hardware constraints, thus making the game really short and almost empty. I believe there is just so much potential in new settings and characters, and they could have fleshed out the main trio's close friendship to make people care enough when they all fell apart in their respective games. That applies to both BBS and 358/2 Days, since COM didn't have much of a main trio. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those fans who felt really bad for their sad ends. Anyway, I never tried playing all three at once in a way that I imagine KH3D took it. That's true, you don't really need to play Sora's before Riku's. I wonder why they didn't offer the option to play as Riku from the get-go, except his side does not hold as much juice, plot-wise and gameplay-wise. But yeah, I actually played Reverse/Rebirth almost a year after I finished Sora's story in Re:COM, although I did play both sides in COM almost continuously.

What could have been interesting--and I kind of want to sit down all day and think about how the plot would have veered off course if it had happened--is if they'd had the BBS trio go everywhere together. It would have solved too many problems and made them somewhat invincible though, I think, so plot-wise it just wouldn't work. (Ven would never have gotten into trouble on his own, Terra would have had the babysitter he needed, and Aqua would have been able to smack the boys when they started making the problems that she always ended up fixing at the end.) If they'd stuck together, you could've just picked which one you wanted to play as and the others would be handled as party members like Donald or Goofy. That would've been awesome! But... way too overpowering. XD; They were hax enough together in the Mirage Arena or even in the Radiant Garden boss. They also lagged the game too much so I guess another part of it was system restraints. :P I think it was handled fairly well, though, when you consider it's a handheld game.
I can't believe they never did a game like that. For some reason, Nomura's original KH characters always end up being partnered to the Disney characters (358/2 Days was one exception). With the scenario you mentioned, I think that would have been wonderful to play, but truly it would completely change the plot. Terra, Ventus and Aqua were always meant to all disappear from the various worlds before the first game, just like Xion before KHII (that's what happens when you introduce important characters in prequels and midquels) so yeah it would be hard to work around unless you make the villains more formidable. And you're right, if it were at least on the PS2 then it could have been plausible, but for the PSP, no. It would have still been an enjoyable experience, a cakewalk if they didn't change the external difficulty. But yeah, those few moments in the game that had them all together in arms were really cool. I really wonder if Nomura could possibly pull off something that awesome as a central mechanic of the game, of course, without being bothered by the plot.

Really, the only thing I liked more about how 3D handled two protagonists at once was that they shared all their commands and pets. The first thing I always have to do in BBS when I play it is do some command board grinding so I get an awesome set of commands early on. And then I have to do it for the other two when I play as them and it takes FOREVER. ;_; But there wasn't any of that in this game. When I found air slide, both of them had air slide. When I got high jump, they shared it. There are some things that are Riku-only or Sora-only (like their payback attacks out of guarding/getting hit and some commands--like Riku uses some attacks with darkness and Sora gets some Ven exclusives) but for the most part, anything you find can be used by both. It made the two of them play almost identically which was a little boring (I actually kind of liked how BBS nearly forced me to abandon magic as Terra because he was SO BAD AT IT and that's all I do in the games, usually [not that it worked too well because I distinctly remember using lots of magic with Terra anyway]).

Oh dear, I got started talking about BBS again. ._.; I love that game too much for my own good.

Interesting, so 3D actually combined Sora and Riku's arsenal into one. I haven't actually thought much about the Dream Eaters/Spirits, I wonder how they actually feel like as partners. Yeah, I remember grinding in command board for Terra, even though I only discovered its use extremely late (after my main Ventus save file got corrupted). It is pretty frustrating, especially when one NPC I fight with for each board always ends up mindlessly sabotaging my efforts. I remember how anticlimactic fighting Ventus and Aqua was in the last huge board shaped like that BBS symbol, I think, because they kept the bad AI they had from the first board, haha. Anyway, I don't think the lack of variation between them will bug me that much, I'll probably be more annoyed if they actually had extremely diverse gameplay styles given the Drop system.

Haha, there really isn't much to hate.

Yeah, the expansive worlds are nice but the maps are just too big! One part I mentioned was all the treasure chests--there's sooo many to find and if you don't meticulously check your journal each time you get to a new section of a world to make sure you've gotten all of them, it's SO annoying to go back and try to find what you missed. D: It was easy enough if I did collection while making my way through the plot of each world but I didn't start doing that until more than halfway through the game, really, so I'm still missing chests with Sora. T_T; Also if you go through a big section of a room and then die in a hallway on the way to the next one, you still have to do everything over so that's pretty annoying too. XD;
I'd take that challenge actually. I oddly enjoyed completing the treasure chests indicated in the journal in KHII so I'll probably be obsessive with the exploration here. Unless the plot runs dry as a side effect. But yeah, I would imagine someone like me to not even bother in that situation, not understanding the Japanese names for the items, haha. Now that you mention the possibility of dying in the middle of those huge rooms, the old small segmented rooms will be missed.

And yes, the plot-drops were awkward, but I'm pretty sure there were really only two or three of them in the entire game, so I can't reeeeally complain. I wish they'd used them a bit more so the one I mentioned wasn't so abrupt and unexpected, though. Or they could have used them a bit earlier on when I finished Riku's story a world ahead of Sora's and it wouldn't let me progress to the second half of the game until Sora had caught up. x_X; So every time it would drop me back into Riku, I'd have NOTHING to do so I went to collect the treasure chests I'd forgotten about.
Yeah, I wonder if they just discarded the actual Drop gauge and simply strategically placed the plot-drops often enough to not be too abrupt or unexpected. Could that have changed the experience? Oh yeah, you mentioned having nothing to do for a character at times. I thought they had an option to Drop immediately on the player's whim.

I pretty much assumed it just because he was standing in Yen Sid's office and I think he said something really open ended that included the word "training"? I can't remember at this point, anymore. I just know that since that first long trailer came out for KH3D last year, I've known Lea would become a Keyblade apprentice. :x His keyblade is nicer than the previous keyblades associated with him. It's not as tacky looking as Bond of Flame and not nearly as lame as the keyblade you get based on his "weapons" in BBS with Ven. XD; It's pretty! But it'll still take lots of getting used to over his chakrams. It'd be cool if he used both in battle, though. (I'm kind of hoping he'll get his own spinoff game to show his training because the chances of other Organization members being the people he meets along the way are pretty high and I would just die of excitement if Marluxia showed up. n____n Axel's popular enough to drive sales for a game so... so hopefully this could be a thing one day?)

I'm not bothered by the amount of keyblades. I mean, they've been hinting at multiples since the first game when Mickey had his own in his brief appearance in the Darkness, right? In fact, Riku and Sora fighting over the one keyblade confuses me so much now because I'm so used to there being multiples. Especially since Sora? Yeah... he can't actually use the Keyblade naturally. Riku can use it because Terra passed it on to him. I think Kairi can use it because Aqua accidentally passed it on to her. No clue how/why Lea gets his (I guess maybe from Roxas or Xion?? Or from getting hit by a keyblade too many times! *shot*). But Sora only has his because Ven is in his heart. I think Xemnas implies at the end of KH3D that they were worried about using Sora as a vessel because he can't use a Keyblade as naturally as Roxas could. Or something like that? All I know is Sora looks confused, then hurt, then decides that even if he can only use the Keyblade because of his ~friends~, that's okay. It's really cheesy. XD;
I see. I didn't understand the dialogue for Japanese trailers, haha, so that explains it. If I had known, then I wouldn't be this shocked. Now that you mention it, Lea's Keyblade does look way better than Frolic Flame and Bond of Flame. And yeah, adapting into a Keyblade from an existing weapon that already requires two hands would be something. Both in battle? An awesome idea! And I'd definitely buy that spinoff game when it's released, I want Larxene and Marluxia, hahaha.

I guess, but I always thought Mickey's made sense because it was simply a palette change from Sora's and it sounded reasonable for the all-powerful Keyblade to have a counterpart in Mickey's hands, Sora being based off the mouse after all. It does seem confusing how Riku and Sora fought over the Keyblade, but I think the specific Ven-like points in Sora during the first game actually gave him enough merits to claim the Keyblade from Riku's hands. I'm not particularly sure if Sora got his because of Ven but you're probably right with Riku and Kairi. Lea, sadly, didn't get the Keyblade from Roxas or Xion if you ask me (although getting hit by a Keyblade too many times being the cause is a funny thought). He probably inherited it from Yen Sid or King Mickey, with Mickey getting his from Yen Sid, too, or from his adventures in the Realm of Darkness. Oh yeah, I'll randomly ask, is BBSv2 a game under development or something? I think they could do a lot of explaining with it judging from the BBSFM clip. Lastly, I spoiled myself enough to know what you were talking about with Xemnas and Sora, but it's honestly pretty depressing to see the main character in that position. At least he's getting some character development there, and I wish they continue this with the next games chronologically.

Actually, I'm tossing this out of the spoiler because I'm confused and hoping someone can refresh my memory: why did the Keyblade switch between Riku and Sora in KH1? At the time, it seemed like it was because there could only be one Keyblade at a time so it had to choose between them and it preferred Sora's light over Riku's darkness but... was that really the case? Even if the Keyblade *did* prefer darkness and stopped working for Riku, why would that affect Sora's? The same sort of thing happened with Roxas and Xion but I always assumed that was more because Xion couldn't naturally use the Keyblade. (And now I feel the need to go check on when we first actually *see* her using it. Isn't it not until she picks up Roxas's? Is that when the ability to use it was passed on to her, even if only accidentally?)
I think it had something to do with both of them not having actual Keyblades of their own yet. They simply had the ability to hold the Keyblade in their hands (with Ventus inside Sora and Terra's ceremony performed onto Riku), and the one they kept tossing around which Sora eventually continued using was probably the Realm of Light's main Keyblade (if King Mickey's is the main one from the Realm of Darkness). This probably means that no one actually owns it, it's neither Sora's nor Riku's and has its own entity (and the latter gets his actual own Keyblade later on). Maybe the χ-blade containing two Keyblades that appear just like it wasn't a coincidence. Anyway, during the destruction of Destiny Islands, that specific Keyblade probably went with Sora after sensing danger because Riku's heart was out of reach and Sora's was at least strong enough back then. Or maybe it's something else, I don't know. However, when Sora entered Hollow Bastion, this Keyblade finding an actual Keyblade wielder's heart (Riku went through the inheritance ceremony after all) that acknowledged this fact (it probably was only then that Riku remembered) initially swayed it onto Riku's hands. And then, Sora getting a Ven-like characteristic when he thought of his friends strengthened his heart, (Kairi's and Ven's inside him too) as a Keyblade wielder, enough to nab it back from Riku. It's something I've been thinking hard about, too, and it's a great example of Nomura's own Kudzu Plot.

I've studied Japanese since I was 11 and the only words I knew were pretty much related to Yu-Gi-Oh since that was my obsession in my early teen years. Then I studied it in a classroom setting in high school for a few years. Since grade 11 though, the only way I've really kept up with my Japanese is playing import games. I've imported every KH game since KH2:FM (with the exception of Re:Coded... thank god xD) and after playing through them all, even if the FMs are in English, you reeeally start to get a feel for the vocabulary that usually happens. I remember having no problems understanding any of Days (although I never bothered with the journals which, iirc, actually revealed a fair bit of backstory). In BBS, the only thing that confused me was the χ-blade because they were saying "Keyblade" to my ears but all I could make out in the subs were xblade and it would bewilder me so much every time it came up. XD So yeah, overall, most of my Japanese vocabulary is actually tied to KH. I'm finally taking classes again in university starting May so it'll be interesting to see if I'm any good at the language academically, despite being pretty good (imo) at understanding fandom-y things on my own. :x
That's so cool. It must be amazingly helpful to have that background in fandoms like this. I'm still deciding if I'll continue studying Japanese, since I've got more opportunities to than most of my peers. Again, that skill must be pretty handy in keeping up with the franchise, even something as confusing as KH. But yeah, even I got a little confused with the whole χ-blade thing playing in English, so it must be bewildering to encounter it first in Japanese haha. And if you're going to take classes soon then more power to you. You'll probably find it easy with that background.

I'm soooo excited for the Ultimania to come out. xD My birthday present from my parents was help paying for my 3DS and KH3D and my brother said he'd get me the Ultimania for it when it came out. So it was a very KH birthday, hahaha. I mostly want it to help with completion because when it comes to some sections of the journal, I am *completely lost* with how to do it. So I've put the game down until then. I'd also really like to read the interviews, too, because I have a lot more questions about this game than I did about most of the others and the interviews in the Ultimanias are usually brilliant for clearing things up. (I also want the 3D one because it's the only one, aside from the one for the original KH, that I don't own.)
I wish I had a KH birthday, haha. And since you mentioned how hard it is to explore and complete it all then the Ultimania will be a great help. I hope the interviews don't just tease on the future of the games, and explain clearly all the confusion they set-up in the recent title. And I am absolutely envious that you'll eventually have every Ultimania bar the original KH.

Omg you used Terra against him? You poor, poor thing. ;_; I've had to fight MF with Terra twice and I hated it both times. He's SO BAD AT DODGING which is essentially what you need to be doing 100% of the time in that fight. I'm pretty sure he was a good 10-15 levels higher than Aqua was when I beat MF with her just to offset his bad dodges. XD; As a trade-off, he did a lot more damage since my strategy is usually to just spam a blitz/surge attack (I forget which term is the English one), but ugggh trying to dodge the laser attack or whatever? Almost impossible. Ugh! XD;
I did, actually. And that was my major gripe, his sluggish ground dashes. Even Aqua can do better with her cartwheels, sigh, unbelievable. And the surge attack is the English term, I think, but yeah I remember now that I used plenty of Thunder Surges, Potions (can't remember if I used Potions or Hi-/Mega-ones, and I incorrectly mentioned Curaga) and Renewal Block. I think I also mixed in a Shotlock (Bio Barrage, I think?) but I don't know if that was during my winning run. I know what you're talking about with the instant death laser attack (looks a lot like Collision Magnet) that completely overwhelms both Once More and Second Chance, ugh, when I see MF jumping up and preparing the glowing whip/laser/Collision Magnet I dash away like crazy. I also hate the mini-tornadoes akin to Marluxia in Re:COM that blast away my commands, man that was frustrating. No Name was worth it, at least. It still looks awesome.

I think I was talking about Ven's final boss fight, not the extra fight. Curaga's bad for that fight! Every time you heal, he heals... so you have to use potions. :P My LV1 run never really included any secret bosses. I think I might have done VS on my Aqua file but I'm pretty sure MF is literally impossible at LV1 since after he's halfway, he heals every time you get a critical hit in. At LV1, I assume each hit you deal him is normally 1 damage so if he healed every time you crit hit, it would just be impossible to get him all the way down. :( Also the fight would take like three hours, haha. The bosses after MF in Final Mix are pretty ridiculous too so I made a new file with Aqua that wasn't level 1 when I took those on. (I did do all *plot* at LV1, so that extra boss in the World of Darkness with her was still part of my challenge. That was so exhilarating, to fight a boss I'd never fought before at that difficulty. I went back like a year later with a save from my not-level-1 file and the boss just wasn't as fun since it died too quickly. XD;
I see. I found Ven's final boss fight really difficult on my first try, maybe because the buttons and the analog stick weren't at their best shape and I was too busy listening to the final boss's VA. But I got the hang of it. And you're right, MF during a LV1 run would be close to impossible, hahaha. Final Mix bosses, huh. I could imagine how it would be fun to take on them like that (it's already pretty hardcore), but I probably wouldn't beat them without dying a lot of times, lol.

I never liked the turn-based system in FFX all that much. It might be because, aside from Pokemon, almost all the games I play are fairly action-based. All the Final Fantasies I like at least have the ATB to make things more dynamic, Kingdom Hearts is as much action as it is role-playing, and Tales of is realtime. Those are all my favourite kinds of RPGs so going back to play FFX just seems... difficult. I do remember enjoying it when I started playing it again last year but my disc is scratched so I couldn't get very far anyway. ;~;
I see. That's too bad, I actually enjoy turn-based battle systems when they're pulled off well, but I guess it really isn't for everyone. I actually like the Tales series because it was so much like the Summon Night: Swordcraft Story games in gameplay, and I have a fair share of fandoms including Kingdom Hearts that I enjoy for being action-based, too. Darn those scratched discs, reminds me of my unplayable Okami disc.

The battle system and controls are worth it even if you know the whole plot already. *u* The game itself is so much fun!
Man, I can't wait for more updates. I want more English KH3D now, haha.

Yeah, I grabbed a few screenshots, I think. Not that many, though. There's a few things that stand out. Large areas, such as the Calm Lands, are clear and crisp to the horizon, not a blurry green mess. Finer details, such as the textures on certain fiends and characters are surprising. Other textures show how bland they are, so you win some you lose some. :P

Even things like a cat in a tent in Besaid. The amount of detail on the face of something you would normally barely be able to make out is brilliant.

I did the same thing with KH2 (I ripped my own discs, before anyone asks). In a way, the simpler "cartoon" textures were better on KH2, because it all scaled so well at that res. Although you can't use any Antialiasing, which is quite evident at higher resolutions. If you have a decent PC, it's strongly recommended. Might try Final Mix at some stage. :P
Yeah, when I've emulated N64, I found anything polygon-based looked amazing but things like background/setting textures didn't hold up so well. I probably wouldn't play at too high a resolution to avoid that somewhat, but the rest of the graphics usually make up for it. HUDs are also kind of disappointing sometimes. XD; If text/icons on the battle screen and whatnot are pre-rendered and stored as small images, they usually look horrible blown up and it's always so obvious next to everything else.
We never had powerful hardware capable of emulating consoles like that but I can imagine how awesome that must be. I have watched a few videos of KHII being emulated in the PCSX2 and it looks lovely. It's getting harder to convince myself that graphics aren't everything, hahaha. Also, I have tried emulating N64 but I frankly never really knew the difference graphically. For one thing, I never had my own N64, and my eyes don't pay attention to detail as much as I'd like them to. I do notice odd discrepancies with textures like you guys mentioned, though, more so in comparison videos than when I'm playing.

Cherrim
April 28th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Guys, I'm a little disappointed in the first monster name translations from KH3D. :(

Frog Chef -> Chef Kyroo
Ghost Clown -> Jestabocky
Koumori Bat -> Komory Bat
Wondernyan -> Meow Wow
Blazing Lobster -> Char Clobster
Denden Cargot -> Escarglow
Mimi Bunny -> Me Me Bunny
Ganmi Fukurou -> Peepsta Hoo

I like the ones that they actually translated, mostly, but the ones where they kept the names just seems lazy. And if they could keep the name for Komory Bat, why couldn't they keep Wondernyan's name? ;_; It sounds so much cuter than Meow Wow, haha. (Sorry, I just have a lot of feels about Wondernyan.)
I never really stopped myself from disliking BBS's disjointedness, so I think it's my fault that I didn't enjoy it as much as COM. Even though the latter wasn't even as rich in plot during Reverse/Rebirth like you said. Anyway, I found it annoying how much story they could have placed in BBS, COM or even 358/2 Days, and couldn't due to hardware constraints, thus making the game really short and almost empty. I believe there is just so much potential in new settings and characters, and they could have fleshed out the main trio's close friendship to make people care enough when they all fell apart in their respective games. That applies to both BBS and 358/2 Days, since COM didn't have much of a main trio. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those fans who felt really bad for their sad ends. Anyway, I never tried playing all three at once in a way that I imagine KH3D took it. That's true, you don't really need to play Sora's before Riku's. I wonder why they didn't offer the option to play as Riku from the get-go, except his side does not hold as much juice, plot-wise and gameplay-wise. But yeah, I actually played Reverse/Rebirth almost a year after I finished Sora's story in Re:COM, although I did play both sides in COM almost continuously.
Riku's starts a little bit after Sora's (and of course, continues on after Sora goes to sleep), I think, so I guess they wanted it to be in chronological order. I do agree that the games needed more ways to feel closer to the main characters. I got so attached to the trio in BBS just from playing the game so many times. But their more touching "together" moments are in the tutorial which is skippable so it can be hard to bring yourself to care a lot when they're split up. With Days... all the bonding was usually just done in a silent cutscene because of the way the game played (by letting you do non-plot missions for random days). I also don't consider the Org trio to be on such a high level as the other trios. :( I think it's because Axel and Xion didn't really seem to be friends until pretty late in the game and Axel always just sort of... seemed to put up with Xion because Roxas really liked her. And then everyone forgets Xion anyway so. ;~; It's not a great "trio", really.
Interesting, so 3D actually combined Sora and Riku's arsenal into one. I haven't actually thought much about the Dream Eaters/Spirits, I wonder how they actually feel like as partners. Yeah, I remember grinding in command board for Terra, even though I only discovered its use extremely late (after my main Ventus save file got corrupted). It is pretty frustrating, especially when one NPC I fight with for each board always ends up mindlessly sabotaging my efforts. I remember how anticlimactic fighting Ventus and Aqua was in the last huge board shaped like that BBS symbol, I think, because they kept the bad AI they had from the first board, haha. Anyway, I don't think the lack of variation between them will bug me that much, I'll probably be more annoyed if they actually had extremely diverse gameplay styles given the Drop system.
The Dream Eaters play a lot like your party members from the first game, with the added bonus of special attacks once their dream gauge fills up. (Their gauge is essentially like the command gauge in BBS--like when Riku's monsters max it out, he can use one of them to go into a an elemental drive form. Sora gets limit breaks with them. :P) They work as normal members of the party otherwise. They're pretty great. (And adorable. <3) As for Sora and Riku themselves, Riku's like a cross between Terra and Ven and Sora's between Aqua and Ven. So they average out pretty well. :P

Hahaha omg the AI in Command Board. XD I loved stupid!Ven and stupid!Terra. On the Secret board, Ven would always play so badly. He'd go all the way out to the farthest colour-space, go back to the start, and then remember he didn't get the colour-space right next to the farthest one and go all the way back. And then there's Terra:
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I'd take that challenge actually. I oddly enjoyed completing the treasure chests indicated in the journal in KHII so I'll probably be obsessive with the exploration here. Unless the plot runs dry as a side effect. But yeah, I would imagine someone like me to not even bother in that situation, not understanding the Japanese names for the items, haha. Now that you mention the possibility of dying in the middle of those huge rooms, the old small segmented rooms will be missed.
Some of the big rooms are done really well--like Traverse Town, it always feels appropriate because you have this huge space and they've got rooftops and roads and stairs and buildings and all that stuff to keep you looking around. Notre Dame is pretty good for that too. But then there are places like the Pinocchio world (especially with Riku) where they give you a huge expanse and all that's really is this big empty floor and maybe some platforms higher up that you can't even see. :/ Those ones are just boring and depressing to explore, haha.
Yeah, I wonder if they just discarded the actual Drop gauge and simply strategically placed the plot-drops often enough to not be too abrupt or unexpected. Could that have changed the experience? Oh yeah, you mentioned having nothing to do for a character at times. I thought they had an option to Drop immediately on the player's whim.
Yeah, you can drop whenever you want, but you won't collect drop points for it and you spend the points between each drop to power up the next character. I usually liked having some of the buffs on (even if I never noticed their effects). :x It also counts the number of times you've dropped and I didn't want it to be ridiculously high for no reason because I'm weird and it would bother me. XD; But I think I would have preferred having specific drop places. (Like, you can drop wherever you want but you'd be forced to drop at the end of the world you just completed or something like that.)

It doesn't help that I never figured out exactly what causes the Drop Gauge to speed up or slow down. :(
I see. I didn't understand the dialogue for Japanese trailers, haha, so that explains it. If I had known, then I wouldn't be this shocked. Now that you mention it, Lea's Keyblade does look way better than Frolic Flame and Bond of Flame. And yeah, adapting into a Keyblade from an existing weapon that already requires two hands would be something. Both in battle? An awesome idea! And I'd definitely buy that spinoff game when it's released, I want Larxene and Marluxia, hahaha.

I guess, but I always thought Mickey's made sense because it was simply a palette change from Sora's and it sounded reasonable for the all-powerful Keyblade to have a counterpart in Mickey's hands, Sora being based off the mouse after all. It does seem confusing how Riku and Sora fought over the Keyblade, but I think the specific Ven-like points in Sora during the first game actually gave him enough merits to claim the Keyblade from Riku's hands. I'm not particularly sure if Sora got his because of Ven but you're probably right with Riku and Kairi. Lea, sadly, didn't get the Keyblade from Roxas or Xion if you ask me (although getting hit by a Keyblade too many times being the cause is a funny thought). He probably inherited it from Yen Sid or King Mickey, with Mickey getting his from Yen Sid, too, or from his adventures in the Realm of Darkness. Oh yeah, I'll randomly ask, is BBSv2 a game under development or something? I think they could do a lot of explaining with it judging from the BBSFM clip. Lastly, I spoiled myself enough to know what you were talking about with Xemnas and Sora, but it's honestly pretty depressing to see the main character in that position. At least he's getting some character development there, and I wish they continue this with the next games chronologically.
I'm pretty sure there were subs for most of the trailers but I remember not liking one of them because they didn't translate something the way I would have. (I thought it stood out because they translated Roxas imitating Axel's catchphrase as the actual catchphrase when really, he gets the verb tense wrong so he was saying something more like "Have you memorized it?" XD) But yes, a spinoff with Lea would be amazing. ;~; And ohmygod I'd die of happy if Marluxia and Larxene came back in it... and die of even more happy if they were not at all pleased with him and became minor villains or something. XD; This needs to happen!

Lea probably did get his keyblade from Mickey or Yen Sid; possibly the former because he saves Queen Minnie immediately before they bring him back to talk to Yen Sid about it, so it would make sense. (Especially if Mickey did it before talking to Yen Sid about it since he tends to make those kinds of decisions on his own. XD)

We haven't heard anything about BBSv2 yet! It's so disappointing. :( I think all I remember hearing was that 3D was supposed to be the last spinoff before KH3. Either they meant it was the last new one to be announced (meaning BBS2 was still okay) or they scrapped BBS2. They've never answered any questions about it (since no Ultimania came out for BBSFM) and it's like the secret ending of BBSFM never happened. But Nomura did say that he wants to make a game that details what happened when Riku and Mickey were in the Realm of Darkness after KH1, so maybe they'll make it an episodic game where you control different people and go through their time there? I'd be okay with anything, honestly, so long as I get my Aqua back. ;~;
I think it had something to do with both of them not having actual Keyblades of their own yet. They simply had the ability to hold the Keyblade in their hands (with Ventus inside Sora and Terra's ceremony performed onto Riku), and the one they kept tossing around which Sora eventually continued using was probably the Realm of Light's main Keyblade (if King Mickey's is the main one from the Realm of Darkness). This probably means that no one actually owns it, it's neither Sora's nor Riku's and has its own entity (and the latter gets his actual own Keyblade later on). Maybe the χ-blade containing two Keyblades that appear just like it wasn't a coincidence. Anyway, during the destruction of Destiny Islands, that specific Keyblade probably went with Sora after sensing danger because Riku's heart was out of reach and Sora's was at least strong enough back then. Or maybe it's something else, I don't know. However, when Sora entered Hollow Bastion, this Keyblade finding an actual Keyblade wielder's heart (Riku went through the inheritance ceremony after all) that acknowledged this fact (it probably was only then that Riku remembered) initially swayed it onto Riku's hands. And then, Sora getting a Ven-like characteristic when he thought of his friends strengthened his heart, (Kairi's and Ven's inside him too) as a Keyblade wielder, enough to nab it back from Riku. It's something I've been thinking hard about, too, and it's a great example of Nomura's own Kudzu Plot.
Okay, that... I think that makes a lot of sense. I'd completely forgotten that the Realm of Light had its own keyblade or something like that. XD I somehow never remember that worlds and places have hearts of their own and whatnot. I think you're probably right.

KH3D also implies that if someone opens their heart too much to darkness, they can lose the ability to use the keyblade. (I think it's supposed to be why Ansem and Xemnas couldn't use the keyblade.) That's probably why Riku lost it for a while, too.
That's so cool. It must be amazingly helpful to have that background in fandoms like this. I'm still deciding if I'll continue studying Japanese, since I've got more opportunities to than most of my peers. Again, that skill must be pretty handy in keeping up with the franchise, even something as confusing as KH. But yeah, even I got a little confused with the whole χ-blade thing playing in English, so it must be bewildering to encounter it first in Japanese haha. And if you're going to take classes soon then more power to you. You'll probably find it easy with that background.
If you like the language, you should keep up with it. :3 Japanese is a lot more fun for me to study than, say, French, since it's easier to practise with it. All I have to do is watch anime/dramas without subs, play import games, or read manga without translations to practise. It's just as easy to find material for French here but not nearly as fun. :P
I wish I had a KH birthday, haha. And since you mentioned how hard it is to explore and complete it all then the Ultimania will be a great help. I hope the interviews don't just tease on the future of the games, and explain clearly all the confusion they set-up in the recent title. And I am absolutely envious that you'll eventually have every Ultimania bar the original KH.
I lied. I was price checking the new one at different sites and realized I don't have the Re:Coded Ultimania. I... I will not be getting it because I still pretend that game doesn't exist. XD;
I did, actually. And that was my major gripe, his sluggish ground dashes. Even Aqua can do better with her cartwheels, sigh, unbelievable. And the surge attack is the English term, I think, but yeah I remember now that I used plenty of Thunder Surges, Potions (can't remember if I used Potions or Hi-/Mega-ones, and I incorrectly mentioned Curaga) and Renewal Block. I think I also mixed in a Shotlock (Bio Barrage, I think?) but I don't know if that was during my winning run. I know what you're talking about with the instant death laser attack (looks a lot like Collision Magnet) that completely overwhelms both Once More and Second Chance, ugh, when I see MF jumping up and preparing the glowing whip/laser/Collision Magnet I dash away like crazy. I also hate the mini-tornadoes akin to Marluxia in Re:COM that blast away my commands, man that was frustrating. No Name was worth it, at least. It still looks awesome.
The command-scattering attack never bothered me that much because I already spend most of the fight just dodging around, so dodging into the commands to pick them back up was never much of a strategy change, but I hate when my cure commands are the last ones to show up. XD; The laser one was the worst no matter who you're using, though. Anything that goes beyond both Once More & Second Chance are cheap hax moves. >:O

But yes, No Name was worth it. n_n It was easily my favourite keyblade in BBS before Crown Unlimit in FM. I think it might only have to do with how difficult it is to obtain, though, which is the reason I like Crown Unlimit, at least. XD
I see. I found Ven's final boss fight really difficult on my first try, maybe because the buttons and the analog stick weren't at their best shape and I was too busy listening to the final boss's VA. But I got the hang of it. And you're right, MF during a LV1 run would be close to impossible, hahaha. Final Mix bosses, huh. I could imagine how it would be fun to take on them like that (it's already pretty hardcore), but I probably wouldn't beat them without dying a lot of times, lol.
The first time I beat Ven's final boss, I'd just rolled around using Thunder Roll and damaged him that way, and then accidentally beat him when you're floating around and the ground has broken away. I had no idea what I did and didn't think it was supposed to be hard. Then when I played the game again in English, I could not beat him. XD; The Thunder Roll strategy didn't work for me so I had to beat him legit... and then I had NO IDEA how to do the ending part. It wasn't until like a year after I originally played the game that someone pointed out that you had to fill your command gauge and use the finisher on him that I realized how it worked. Ooops!

CarefulWetPaint
April 28th, 2012, 03:51 PM
Oh I have to join.

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Kingdom Hearts for sure, such a fantastic series!
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
This is a really tough one, but I have always liked King Mickey and Riku (Especially when he goes good)
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
BE ON XBOX 360 OR I WILL CRY!!
What two Keyblades would you double wield?
Oh does it have two be Keyblades in the game?Or can I make up my own? (Ill answer this later) What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
(I haven't played the game its in! Oh noes!) But looking at a picture I'd probably call it Gauntlet, or Gallos. Diablo could probably even work.
What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
Ugh Disney >.> I only know what's been done in I and II sooo I don't wanna name any worlds already used >.> I think it would be cool if they used some more Final Fantasy worlds though.
What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?
Has to be I and II tied. They are both amazing and I loved them both. The story line, the combat (A square enix game with real combat... YAY!) The graphics, voice acting, just everything was great! Plus they were the only two I could play :(
If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
Sephiroth, my god. That'd be amazing!

Also I love how all these questions are about Kingdom hearts when its a Square Enix Club.
So I'd like to bring up Final Fantasy Advent Children. Did anyone watch or like this? I thought it was amazing!

And I would reply to Lightnings post but theres to much in that for me to handle atm >.>
But I will agree some of those name translations are horrible.

Sakura Rain
April 30th, 2012, 06:38 PM
asdfjkl I must join had no idea the other one died, bless it.

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
KINGDOM HEARTSSSSSS and Final Fantasy a little I guess

Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
VENTUS. I have so many feels about Ven asdfjkl he's adorable and naive and adorable and he has no idea what's going on for the majority of BbS BUT HE'S ADORABLE OKAY

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?

Erm...PS3 I guess? I dunno, it'll most likely be on the 360 or the PS3 and I don't have either yet so idk

What two keyblades would you double wield?
Wayward Wind and Lost Memory. why no this has nothing to do with my Ven obsession why do you ask

What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
Most likely Diablo or something like that. Something really really dark. or perhaps Xanatos Gambit. yay for references nobody will get. -spins-

What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
I already know all the new Disney worlds in KH3D because I am horrible and spoiled myself for it :/

What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?
BIRTH BY SLEEP BECAUSE VEN it was the first game in the series where I really felt connected to the characters. sorry sora fans but I don't like him all that much. He's sort of...too happy. All of the time. Except in Dream Drop Distance. ;_____; And it was heartbreaking and spectacular at the same time.

If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?

As far as allies go...erm, does Zack count? 'cause he's awesome and all. Also, obligatory SEPHIROTH. but I wouldn't want to play as Xemnas for reasons. I don't even play as him in Days...for reasons. OHGOD TERRA ;___________;

and holy crap Lightning that is quite the wall of text 0_0

Cid
May 1st, 2012, 06:42 AM
Hooray, more people! Welcome, WetPaint and Sakura! :D

And just making sure, I put some updates on the Nomura interview in the KH3D Ultimania under spoiler tags, haha.

[KH3D Ultimania spoiler]
Turns out the Ultimania has pretty disappointing news on the status of the next few titles in the series, specifically how they don't have any plans for BBSV2 at the moment. I don't know but dissapointment is generally what I'm getting from it. I expected astoundingly happy news, or at least more news, haha.

There's an interview with Tetsuya Nomura in the KH3D Ultimania that went on sale today! From the interview:
They don't have any plans for BBSV2 right now, trust your imagination with the Secret Message, there's no plans for an FM for this title, the mystery KH project is stopped because they did KH3D, please look forward to whether the 7 lights are those 7 people, lots of things have already started happening for a new title in the KH series, and he thinks they will be able to make some kind of announcement in a relatively short time.

There you go! In the interview there's also 'impressions upon seeing the 3DS, the way we brought in free flow action, the title 3D, choosing which worlds to use, about the new black-coated people in Organisation XIII' etc. I also really really recommend 'Ask Mr Tetsu everything! Scenario Mysteries' for Nomura's detailed commentary! KH3D's Ultimania is pretty big, very much worth reading, go and buy it for sure!

Also, some KH3D spoilers from the Ultimania which explain spoiler-filled parts of the game:
- In order to travel through time, "first" you need to give up of your form (body). When the man in the brown coat executed it, all the others got the same ability. But, except for YMX, not all of them came by traveling through time.
- Both Ansem SoD and Xemnas exist alongside Master Xehanort, after being defeated and giving birth to their old human form, in the Space-Time of KH3D.

Guys, I'm a little disappointed in the first monster name translations from KH3D. :(

Frog Chef -> Chef Kyroo
Ghost Clown -> Jestabocky
Koumori Bat -> Komory Bat
Wondernyan -> Meow Wow
Blazing Lobster -> Char Clobster
Denden Cargot -> Escarglow
Mimi Bunny -> Me Me Bunny
Ganmi Fukurou -> Peepsta Hoo

I like the ones that they actually translated, mostly, but the ones where they kept the names just seems lazy. And if they could keep the name for Komory Bat, why couldn't they keep Wondernyan's name? ;_; It sounds so much cuter than Meow Wow, haha. (Sorry, I just have a lot of feels about Wondernyan.)
I wasn't expecting them to nail the translations, but yeah some of it is pretty disappointing. And the word mimi means ears in Japanese, right? Why would they translate the bunny into Me Me Bunny, then? Oh wait, Buneary already exists. But yeah, Wondernyan sounded much better. Kinda like how a perfectly good sounding name like Yorterrie became a meh sounding Lillipup in B/W.[/off-topic]

Riku's starts a little bit after Sora's (and of course, continues on after Sora goes to sleep), I think, so I guess they wanted it to be in chronological order. I do agree that the games needed more ways to feel closer to the main characters. I got so attached to the trio in BBS just from playing the game so many times. But their more touching "together" moments are in the tutorial which is skippable so it can be hard to bring yourself to care a lot when they're split up. With Days... all the bonding was usually just done in a silent cutscene because of the way the game played (by letting you do non-plot missions for random days). I also don't consider the Org trio to be on such a high level as the other trios. :( I think it's because Axel and Xion didn't really seem to be friends until pretty late in the game and Axel always just sort of... seemed to put up with Xion because Roxas really liked her. And then everyone forgets Xion anyway so. ;~; It's not a great "trio", really.
I didn't consider that point. The lack of intersection within the stories apart from them actually being in a same room kinda sounded like it could work but I guess Sora's really does go first. Yeah, with the skippable tutorial as an example, I really found BBS lacking in scenes where the main trio shows how close they are supposed to be. There aren't too many flashbacks either, I mean, they didn't even bother making younger models for them, unless the flashbacks aren't really in the distant past. I find that last assumption hard to believe. And I haven't really thought much of the flaws of the Days trio. You mention some great arguments, and I think the odd approach they went with the three may be explained by the greater plot and characterization intervention of people other than Nomura in his Days staff, more than the other games, I think.

The Dream Eaters play a lot like your party members from the first game, with the added bonus of special attacks once their dream gauge fills up. (Their gauge is essentially like the command gauge in BBS--like when Riku's monsters max it out, he can use one of them to go into a an elemental drive form. Sora gets limit breaks with them. :P) They work as normal members of the party otherwise. They're pretty great. (And adorable. <3) As for Sora and Riku themselves, Riku's like a cross between Terra and Ven and Sora's between Aqua and Ven. So they average out pretty well. :P

Hahaha omg the AI in Command Board. XD I loved stupid!Ven and stupid!Terra. On the Secret board, Ven would always play so badly. He'd go all the way out to the farthest colour-space, go back to the start, and then remember he didn't get the colour-space right next to the farthest one and go all the way back. And then there's Terra:
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Interesting. I haven't warmed up to how the Dream Eaters look just yet but I think I'll enjoy playing alongside the critters. At least that sort of diversifies the experience for Sora and Riku. I like that. And without regarding the fact that I still need to warm up a bit towards the Dream Eaters, they are cute. And yeah, they played so badly I can't even believe I was playing one of the hard to unlock boards. XD I've experienced a few Command Board games like that picture, haha. I thoroughly enjoyed them.

Some of the big rooms are done really well--like Traverse Town, it always feels appropriate because you have this huge space and they've got rooftops and roads and stairs and buildings and all that stuff to keep you looking around. Notre Dame is pretty good for that too. But then there are places like the Pinocchio world (especially with Riku) where they give you a huge expanse and all that's really is this big empty floor and maybe some platforms higher up that you can't even see. :/ Those ones are just boring and depressing to explore, haha.
Well, if Riku's inside Monstro or something then that's sort of explainable, I think. At least there are good rooms. I'll just enjoy those and not bother with the empty ones, I guess.

Yeah, you can drop whenever you want, but you won't collect drop points for it and you spend the points between each drop to power up the next character. I usually liked having some of the buffs on (even if I never noticed their effects). :x It also counts the number of times you've dropped and I didn't want it to be ridiculously high for no reason because I'm weird and it would bother me. XD; But I think I would have preferred having specific drop places. (Like, you can drop wherever you want but you'd be forced to drop at the end of the world you just completed or something like that.)

It doesn't help that I never figured out exactly what causes the Drop Gauge to speed up or slow down. :(
Ah, that mechanic. I can see now why you make the most out of each post-drop then. Hahaha, that's really weird. That last bit was what I was thinking, but I don't know how it will work if there's still a drop gauge counting on its own.

I'm pretty sure there were subs for most of the trailers but I remember not liking one of them because they didn't translate something the way I would have. (I thought it stood out because they translated Roxas imitating Axel's catchphrase as the actual catchphrase when really, he gets the verb tense wrong so he was saying something more like "Have you memorized it?" XD) But yes, a spinoff with Lea would be amazing. ;~; And ohmygod I'd die of happy if Marluxia and Larxene came back in it... and die of even more happy if they were not at all pleased with him and became minor villains or something. XD; This needs to happen!

Lea probably did get his keyblade from Mickey or Yen Sid; possibly the former because he saves Queen Minnie immediately before they bring him back to talk to Yen Sid about it, so it would make sense. (Especially if Mickey did it before talking to Yen Sid about it since he tends to make those kinds of decisions on his own. XD)

We haven't heard anything about BBSv2 yet! It's so disappointing. :( I think all I remember hearing was that 3D was supposed to be the last spinoff before KH3. Either they meant it was the last new one to be announced (meaning BBS2 was still okay) or they scrapped BBS2. They've never answered any questions about it (since no Ultimania came out for BBSFM) and it's like the secret ending of BBSFM never happened. But Nomura did say that he wants to make a game that details what happened when Riku and Mickey were in the Realm of Darkness after KH1, so maybe they'll make it an episodic game where you control different people and go through their time there? I'd be okay with anything, honestly, so long as I get my Aqua back. ;~;
I guess even with subs, I'm completely clueless. XD And that's pretty interesting! I wonder if they actually intended Roxas to get the imitation wrong? Yes it would, oh I love the idea. It would be so awesome if they did become minor villains, then again how did the other revived Organization XIII members act in KH3D? Of course, bar a few who were seen in The World That Never Was.

Yep, that would make sense. It would be so like Mickey from BBS, too. Although it's odd they wouldn't show a cutscene like that in the game, unless they really wanted people to be completely surprised with Lea's sudden Keyblade.

KH3D Ultimania mentions BBSV2 actually. Specifically its lack of being thereof. :( Yes, an episodic game would be nice. And that's the vibe I'm getting from the secret ending, too, with the tons of parallel characters shown in succession. I would want to play Riku, Mickey and Aqua, too!

Okay, that... I think that makes a lot of sense. I'd completely forgotten that the Realm of Light had its own keyblade or something like that. XD I somehow never remember that worlds and places have hearts of their own and whatnot. I think you're probably right.

KH3D also implies that if someone opens their heart too much to darkness, they can lose the ability to use the keyblade. (I think it's supposed to be why Ansem and Xemnas couldn't use the keyblade.) That's probably why Riku lost it for a while, too.
The concept hasn't really stuck with me either. XD

Oh right. How can Master Xehanort still use it, though? But yeah, that makes perfect sense for Riku.

If you like the language, you should keep up with it. :3 Japanese is a lot more fun for me to study than, say, French, since it's easier to practise with it. All I have to do is watch anime/dramas without subs, play import games, or read manga without translations to practise. It's just as easy to find material for French here but not nearly as fun. :P

I lied. I was price checking the new one at different sites and realized I don't have the Re:Coded Ultimania. I... I will not be getting it because I still pretend that game doesn't exist. XD;
This is actually the second time I've been thinking of learning more of the language solely due to PC, and this time around I think I will keep up with it. That's true, it's hard to find applications with something else especially where we live, and with that something like French would be light years away from being as fun to learn and practice as Japanese, haha.

The command-scattering attack never bothered me that much because I already spend most of the fight just dodging around, so dodging into the commands to pick them back up was never much of a strategy change, but I hate when my cure commands are the last ones to show up. XD; The laser one was the worst no matter who you're using, though. Anything that goes beyond both Once More & Second Chance are cheap hax moves. >:O

But yes, No Name was worth it. n_n It was easily my favourite keyblade in BBS before Crown Unlimit in FM. I think it might only have to do with how difficult it is to obtain, though, which is the reason I like Crown Unlimit, at least. XD
That was a huge gripe, I always got the cure command blown away and not restored right when needed it. And that's so true, I absolutely hate boss moves like that. I can't remember if they did something like that with the past games or this is a new thing they did, frustratingly so.

Yeah, I had nothing else more prize-worthy to collect until FM, hahaha. But I know the feeling of liking a prize more from the more difficult conditions they are retrieved from.

The first time I beat Ven's final boss, I'd just rolled around using Thunder Roll and damaged him that way, and then accidentally beat him when you're floating around and the ground has broken away. I had no idea what I did and didn't think it was supposed to be hard. Then when I played the game again in English, I could not beat him. XD; The Thunder Roll strategy didn't work for me so I had to beat him legit... and then I had NO IDEA how to do the ending part. It wasn't until like a year after I originally played the game that someone pointed out that you had to fill your command gauge and use the finisher on him that I realized how it worked. Ooops!
That's a funny story, even funnier because my brother actually had the same problem when he was trying out Ven's story for last (he went Aqua -> Terra -> Ven, I went the complete opposite) and asked me how it really worked like that. He was just spamming the commands available without building up the command gauge enough. I remember I actually luckily got my command gauge full on my first try just because I enjoyed clashing the attacks, which was coincidentally how you were supposed to fill it, hahaha.

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Phew. You guys up for a discussion topic that anyone can participate in?
I'm out of ideas.

Cherrim
May 1st, 2012, 08:57 AM
Also I love how all these questions are about Kingdom hearts when its a Square Enix Club.
So I'd like to bring up Final Fantasy Advent Children. Did anyone watch or like this? I thought it was amazing!
Well, I think this used to be mainly the KH fanclub until the FF ones and whatnot kept dying out and we'd talk about FF inevitably in the KH one so we decided to merge them. I think? But if you have any topics from other series to bring up, anything Square-Enix is game. :D

I haven't seen Advent Children in a while but I remember really liking it. It was gorgeous, which was about all I found to like about it originally, but the Blu-Ray release which had added scenes (it might have gotten a subtitle after the name but I forget) made the whole movie make so much more sense and I really liked that version.
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
VENTUS. I have so many feels about Ven asdfjkl he's adorable and naive and adorable and he has no idea what's going on for the majority of BbS BUT HE'S ADORABLE OKAY
Veeeen. <3 I named my pet fish after him, hahaha.

Ven is hilarious because the first half of the game is spent going all "OMG I HAVE TO FIND MY FRIENDS WHERE IS TERRA" and then Radiant Garden happens and he gets mad at Aqua for babysitting Terra and from then on, his goal shifts to "I NEED NEW FRIENDS" and instead of asking everyone if they've seen his friends, he starts trying to make new ones instead. XD And his whole "hi my name is ventus but you can call me ven" spiel to everyone he makes friends with is funny too... especially since I always imagine that after he gets mad at Aqua in RG, he runs away yelling "YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMOOOORE" and from then on in Aqua's story, instead of calling him Ven when she's thinking about him, she uses the name Ventus. Aww. xD;

I have a lot of feels about Ven (and the whole trio, really) too. T_T

aaaand cue wall of text
[KH3D Ultimania spoiler]
Turns out the Ultimania has pretty disappointing news on the status of the next few titles in the series, specifically how they don't have any plans for BBSV2 at the moment. I don't know but dissapointment is generally what I'm getting from it. I expected astoundingly happy news, or at least more news, haha.



Also, some KH3D spoilers from the Ultimania which explain spoiler-filled parts of the game:
- In order to travel through time, "first" you need to give up of your form (body). When the man in the brown coat executed it, all the others got the same ability. But, except for YMX, not all of them came by traveling through time.
- Both Ansem SoD and Xemnas exist alongside Master Xehanort, after being defeated and giving birth to their old human form, in the Space-Time of KH3D.
I WAS SO SAD WHEN I SAW THE BBS2 NEWS. NOOOOO. Do they realize I would have bought a Vita for it or whatever they wanted to put it on? I feel like I need to write them and tell them this. (And then point out that I'll buy it in Japanese and then English and then the Final Mix, too, since Vita isn't region locked.) ;__; I'm so sad now. They say all the story is there and everything, but they just aren't going to be making a game with it? I wish they'd be more straightforward with their answers. If they're outright saying "no" over a game they already hinted at well over a year ago, they should be allowed to tell us whether they're just saving that plot for KH3 or what. I must admit, I'm not really interested in "side story" stuff (sorry Aqua dearest, but you're side story right now)/ in my main games. This is stuff that needs to be resolved before anything new happens and it makes me sad that they're either going to cram it into a cutscene in KH3 or just ignore it altogether. :( Aww.

I... think I managed to gleam that from the game when I went through the cutscenes again. /pats self on back

Though honestly I'm still so shaky on the details of how time travel works. It seems so gimmicky. I wish they'd come up with a different mechanic to explain the Xehanorts. :(
I wasn't expecting them to nail the translations, but yeah some of it is pretty disappointing. And the word mimi means ears in Japanese, right? Why would they translate the bunny into Me Me Bunny, then? Oh wait, Buneary already exists. But yeah, Wondernyan sounded much better. Kinda like how a perfectly good sounding name like Yorterrie became a meh sounding Lillipup in B/W.[/off-topic]
...yeah, this is a lot like Yorterrie. XD; I mean, with NyanCat and all, a lot of people understand that Nyan is associated with cats anyway, so they could've gotten away with it. Moreso than Me Me Bunny, anyway. :| I'd be okay with Meow Wow if they'd translated/localized all of them but they obviously didn't try for all of them.
Interesting. I haven't warmed up to how the Dream Eaters look just yet but I think I'll enjoy playing alongside the critters. At least that sort of diversifies the experience for Sora and Riku. I like that. And without regarding the fact that I still need to warm up a bit towards the Dream Eaters, they are cute. And yeah, they played so badly I can't even believe I was playing one of the hard to unlock boards. XD I've experienced a few Command Board games like that picture, haha. I thoroughly enjoyed them.
The Dream Eaters look kind of out of place with Riku but they fit in 100% with Sora. Especially the small, fat, round ones. (Wondernyan is so completely Sora, it's perfect.) I usually gave Riku the big, cool-looking ones ot make up for the fact that I named them all really stupid things. (All of my Wondernyans are a variant of "RIKU SUX" because that's always the first thing I name a gummi ship or card deck when I'm playing as Sora and Wondernyan was my first monster. xD)
Well, if Riku's inside Monstro or something then that's sort of explainable, I think. At least there are good rooms. I'll just enjoy those and not bother with the empty ones, I guess.
Even in CoM and KH1, Monstro was varied. Big wide open spaces with no real ledges are weird no matter what the level is. :(
I guess even with subs, I'm completely clueless. XD And that's pretty interesting! I wonder if they actually intended Roxas to get the imitation wrong? Yes it would, oh I love the idea. It would be so awesome if they did become minor villains, then again how did the other revived Organization XIII members act in KH3D? Of course, bar a few who were seen in The World That Never Was.

Yep, that would make sense. It would be so like Mickey from BBS, too. Although it's odd they wouldn't show a cutscene like that in the game, unless they really wanted people to be completely surprised with Lea's sudden Keyblade.

KH3D Ultimania mentions BBSV2 actually. Specifically its lack of being thereof. :( Yes, an episodic game would be nice. And that's the vibe I'm getting from the secret ending, too, with the tons of parallel characters shown in succession. I would want to play Riku, Mickey and Aqua, too!
I have no idea. It's such an iconic phrase in the game that I can't imagine they'd have Roxas get it wrong accidentally. But it also didn't seem like it was necessary to change it up, so I feel that it has to be Roxas mixing it up, haha.

The other revived members didn't really have much of a role in 3D. We only see them when Lea wakes up on the floor of Radiant Garden. (It's interesting: he's wearing the Org jacket but the rest of them are all wearing their uniforms from RG--was Lea already wearing the jacket when his heart was released back when he became a Nobody?) Not everyone wakes up at the same time and I think we only end up talking to Lexaeus and Zexion whom I think were mostly just trying to figure out what happened and started straightening up Ansem's study lol. I'll need to go back and watch those scenes again but Lea got out of there before anything interesting (like Even waking up XD) could happen. Even Zexion didn't act badly toward Lea though, so maybe they wouldn't all necessarily be bitter toward Lea for causing the death of like half of them. :P
Oh right. How can Master Xehanort still use it, though? But yeah, that makes perfect sense for Riku.
I think MX has tempered the darkness inside him so well that it doesn't actually affect his heart. You can sort of see a difference between the way MX handles darkness and the way Terra and Riku did. With the latter two, they weren't 100% sure that they wanted to turn to the darkness. They were both more tricked into the darkness than seeking it out themselves. Even when Riku DID turn to the darkness on purpose to gain power, his form changed to KH1!Ansem so it's like he couldn't deal with accepting the darkness as he was. But I bet MX never had that problem. I'm pretty sure he was told to stay away from the darkness when he was trained but he quickly tossed that advice away and never looked back. Darkness just doesn't seem to harm him so it follows that it probably wouldn't be able to take away his ability to use the keyblade. He knows who he is and what he does so the darkness has less of an effect on him. Or something like that.
[quote]That was a huge gripe, I always got the cure command blown away and not restored right when needed it. And that's so true, I absolutely hate boss moves like that. I can't remember if they did something like that with the past games or this is a new thing they did, frustratingly so.
I don't think there was a boss who did anything like that in Re:Coded and there wasn't one (that I've found) in 3D, so I guess it's just Marluxia and MF. The other games don't use a battle system that attaches battle action to cards/commands that could be lost, so it wouldn't work there.
That's a funny story, even funnier because my brother actually had the same problem when he was trying out Ven's story for last (he went Aqua -> Terra -> Ven, I went the complete opposite) and asked me how it really worked like that. He was just spamming the commands available without building up the command gauge enough. I remember I actually luckily got my command gauge full on my first try just because I enjoyed clashing the attacks, which was coincidentally how you were supposed to fill it, hahaha.
Yyyup that's exactly what happened for me. Though now I wonder if the order you guys did your stories in is partially what took away some of the character enjoyment? I don't think I know anyone who didn't do the story order as Terra->Ven->Aqua (which was the way Nomura said was probably easiest to understand or something waaaay back before it was released). I still agree that TAV needed more time to show what they were like as friends together before the events of BBS, but maybe playing the game in a certain order makes it clearer, since I never had much of a problem accepting their friendship to be as close (if not closer) than the other trios. :O

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Mm, new discussion, new discussion... maybe...

Of the Square-Enix games you've played, which one had the best battle system (and/or gameplay)? The worst? Bonus question: if you could combine gameplay of different games, what would the perfect mix be?

I'll answer this after some other people have so it doesn't get lost in my walls of text. xD

Sakura Rain
May 1st, 2012, 01:45 PM
Veeeen. <3 I named my pet fish after him, hahaha.

Ven is hilarious because the first half of the game is spent going all "OMG I HAVE TO FIND MY FRIENDS WHERE IS TERRA" and then Radiant Garden happens and he gets mad at Aqua for babysitting Terra and from then on, his goal shifts to "I NEED NEW FRIENDS" and instead of asking everyone if they've seen his friends, he starts trying to make new ones instead. XD And his whole "hi my name is ventus but you can call me ven" spiel to everyone he makes friends with is funny too... especially since I always imagine that after he gets mad at Aqua in RG, he runs away yelling "YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMOOOORE" and from then on in Aqua's story, instead of calling him Ven when she's thinking about him, she uses the name Ventus. Aww. xD;

I have a lot of feels about Ven (and the whole trio, really) too. T_T

MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DROWN IT T_T I was a little bit peeved at Ven after Radiant Garden. I mean, Aqua was just following orders and trying to help and he's all "OMG AQUA YOU'RE AWFUL" I mean I just felt a little bad for Aqua is all. asdfkjl NO I still love Ven he just acted a bit like a child in that one particular scene ;____; omg I can just picture him saying that to Aqua. With his puppy dog eyes. and the glare asdfjkl and then in Disney Town he's all like "Wish I had someone looking out for me" and I was like ASDFJKL YOU ARE BREAKING MY HEART VEN

I love how he introduces himself exactly like that every time he meets someone new. Every time. well he probably didn't introduce himself to master xehanort like that but who cares about MX anyway he is a prick of the highest order and not vanitas either but he is also a prick of the highest order

Of the Square-Enix games you've played, which one had the best battle system (and/or gameplay)? The worst? Bonus question: if you could combine gameplay of different games, what would the perfect mix be?

...are you guys going to kill me if I say Birth by Sleep? Because that was the best battle system ever and not just for KH either. and I dunno about Dream Drop Distance but it's looking to have a good system as well. And worst battle system/gameplay... erm...toss-up between Re:coded and Days. I do in fact play other Square-Enix games. I just play KH the most XD um um um BIRTH BY SLEEP AND DREAM DROP DISTANCE. someone who's not a KH retard needs to answer this question lol

Kevin
May 1st, 2012, 03:34 PM
So many long posts. o:

Guys, I'm a little disappointed in the first monster name translations from KH3D. :(

Frog Chef -> Chef Kyroo
Ghost Clown -> Jestabocky
Koumori Bat -> Komory Bat
Wondernyan -> Meow Wow
Blazing Lobster -> Char Clobster
Denden Cargot -> Escarglow
Mimi Bunny -> Me Me Bunny
Ganmi Fukurou -> Peepsta HooThe English name actually amuse me. Haha, my favourites are Meow Wow and Me Me Bunny.

Oh I have to join.
asdfjkl I must join had no idea the other one died, bless it.Welcome to the club, CarefulWetPaint and Sakura Rain! Added to first post. :)

CarefulWetPaint
May 1st, 2012, 04:14 PM
So kingdom hearts 3d is on the 3DS Looks like I wont be playing it then >.>

Has the Final Fantasy MMO been released yet? If so is anyone playing it?
If not does anyone plan to play it?

ソラ
May 1st, 2012, 09:10 PM
So, I beat KH3D some time last week or 2 weeks ago, I dont remember which I just beat it. I've been playing KH2FM, and im planning to play KHRe:CoM again as well. But I some how can't play KH1FM, mainly due to the fact I played KH1/FM so many times it lost it taste for me for a while, so it may take a while before me wanting to play it again, but its not like i dislike it, I LOVE IT ALOT, but played it SOOOOO MANY TIMES haha. After I re-beat KH3D on Critical, Imma re-play BBSFM tho. :)

KH3D on Critical kind of scares me. KH3D on Proud kicked my booty alot. Hahah Im sure I will beat it well. :)

Sakura Rain
May 2nd, 2012, 10:13 PM
So, I beat KH3D some time last week or 2 weeks ago, I dont remember which I just beat it. I've been playing KH2FM, and im planning to play KHRe:CoM again as well. But I some how can't play KH1FM, mainly due to the fact I played KH1/FM so many times it lost it taste for me for a while, so it may take a while before me wanting to play it again, but its not like i dislike it, I LOVE IT ALOT, but played it SOOOOO MANY TIMES haha. After I re-beat KH3D on Critical, Imma re-play BBSFM tho. :)

KH3D on Critical kind of scares me. KH3D on Proud kicked my booty alot. Hahah Im sure I will beat it well. :)

Lucky. I don't have either of the Final Mixes. or BbSFM, which makes me incredibly sad, as BbS is my favorite game in the franchise ;____;

So how's KH3D on Critical? I heard that Young Master Xehanort was really tough no matter what difficulty you were playing on...Rewinding time back to the start of the fight? ARE YOU SERIOUS. Does he really do that, or is my information mistaken because I will seriously die a thousand deaths ;____; I reaaaaaally want to fight Sora in Ven's armor because reasons. VEN IS THE SWEETEST THING EVER HE WAS PROTECTING SORA LIKE SORA PROTECTED HIM D'AWWWWW even though it kind of didn't work because Sora still got possessed by darkness I guess? Low quality cutscenes are the devil.

ソラ
May 3rd, 2012, 09:47 AM
Lucky. I don't have either of the Final Mixes. or BbSFM, which makes me incredibly sad, as BbS is my favorite game in the franchise ;____;

So how's KH3D on Critical? I heard that Young Master Xehanortwas really tough no matter what difficulty you were playing on... I haven't started Critical yet, I will after KH2FM, and The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past. plus he wasnt hard on Proud.

Rewinding time back to the start of the fight? ARE YOU SERIOUS. Does he really do that, or is my information mistaken because I will seriously die a thousand deaths ;____;
Well, rewinding time back isnt that bad, since he only has 2 bars of life when does, he has like 4 - 5 bars in the real fight, rewinding back 2 bars, he does step up his game a bit tho, but it isnt hard.


I reaaaaaally want to fight Sora in Ven's armor
He was a bit hard for me, at first but now he is easy :)

because reasonsVEN IS THE SWEETEST THING EVER HE WAS PROTECTING SORA LIKE SORA PROTECTED HIM D'AWWWWW even though it kind of didn't work because Sora still got possessed by darkness I guess? Low quality cutscenes are the devil.
what I think is that Ven was protecting Sora, or Ven and Sora got possessed not sure, I gotta see it in english

Sakura Rain
May 3rd, 2012, 02:40 PM
Well, rewinding time back isnt that bad, since he only has 2 bars of life when does, he has like 4 - 5 bars in the real fight, rewinding back 2 bars, he does step up his game a bit tho, but it isnt hard.

WELP. That's quite different than what I was hearing. But that is muuuuuch better than 4-5 bars seriously D;

what I think is that Ven was protecting Sora, or Ven and Sora got possessed not sure, I gotta see it in english

I think Ven's armor sort of 'stalled' the darkness, if you will. You saw what Sora's Station of Awakening looked like, all infested with darkness and such. So the armor got possessed instead of Sora, but Sora was still in the armor but the armor clearly fought using Ven's style of fighting but it used Kingdom Key but it used it backhand gaaaaaah D;

Cherrim
May 3rd, 2012, 04:03 PM
Has the Final Fantasy MMO been released yet? If so is anyone playing it?
If not does anyone plan to play it?
14 is out on PC and has been for about a year, if that's what you mean. (I think they cancelled the PS3 version...) I've never played a Final Fantasy MMO since I just never get into that genre and I don't want to pay for something I would probably never play. I've heard 14 wasn't very good, though, hence the console cancellation. :s
KH3D on Critical kind of scares me. KH3D on Proud kicked my booty alot. Hahah Im sure I will beat it well. :)
I'm annoyed that you had to play through the whole game to get critical. :/ I usually don't find crit any harder than proud mode so I would have been okay with doing it from the start. I mean, I guess I'll do my crit playthrough when everyone here is starting the English game (I don't have an English 3DS so I won't be buying it) but I'd still rather have done it from the start.
Lucky. I don't have either of the Final Mixes. or BbSFM, which makes me incredibly sad, as BbS is my favorite game in the franchise ;____;
Get iiiit. Cutscenes are all in English and you really only need to learn katakana to play because the menus are all transliterated English words anyway. 8D It's seriously my favourite game ever.
I reaaaaaally want to fight Sora in Ven's armor because reasons. VEN IS THE SWEETEST THING EVER HE WAS PROTECTING SORA LIKE SORA PROTECTED HIM D'AWWWWW even though it kind of didn't work because Sora still got possessed by darkness I guess? Low quality cutscenes are the devil.
When that scene first started I was kind of pissed off because: A) I didn't know it was Sora and I thought Ven had become corrupted and evil in Sora's heart which would never happen so I was mad, and B) it seemed soooo out of place and I'd thought the game was over already and honestly, the whole diving into Sora's dreams part seemed so tacked on and unnecessary.

But.

OMG VEN. ;_____; I just about died when I realized what he did. And then him, Xion and Roxas asking Riku questions to test him to make sure he was a good friend to Sora or whatever the heck happened there. AWW. AWWWW. My new headcanon is that Ven is totally the babysitter in Sora's heart. xD; He helps along all the new arrivals and takes care of Sora whenever he's sleeping on the job and skldjfls.

ven

/gives him all of the hugs in the world omg ;_;
Well, rewinding time back isnt that bad, since he only has 2 bars of life when does, he has like 4 - 5 bars in the real fight, rewinding back 2 bars, he does step up his game a bit tho, but it isnt hard.
Honestly, I think the worst part of that fight was the fact that I could never deal enough damage to that thing he retreats into before rewinding time. x_X I don't even know how I managed it the time I beat him, since it just went so much better than every other attempt. But that was seriously the only part I had problems on and I still don't know why. ;_;

ToriSora
May 3rd, 2012, 07:55 PM
What is your favorite series made by Square-Enix?
Kingdom Hearts
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Axel he is hot in more ways then one.
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
Wii U I just think with the controller it would work well.




On a side note I hope they port TWEWY to the Wii U. Keep the character models from DDD and it would be awesome.

Talking about DDD I have been playing it so far and I'm in love with it. Such a fun game.

Cherrim
May 4th, 2012, 02:01 PM
._. I have no plans to get a Wii U as of now, so I'm kind of hoping nothing ends up on it, hahaha. If it gets KH or TWEWY, though, I'm screwed since it'll also definitely be region-locked. XD :( TWEWY is probably just as good a fit for the Wii U as it is on the 3DS and it's already on the 3DS in some capacity so maybe they will bump it up. I think you're right, it would work well with the control scheme, from what I've heard about it.

Sakura Rain
May 4th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Get iiiit. Cutscenes are all in English and you really only need to learn katakana to play because the menus are all transliterated English words anyway. 8D It's seriously my favourite game ever.

Perhaps when I'm not so strapped for cash. Still gotta get 3D when it comes out in english. asdfjkl I want to play it -dies

When that scene first started I was kind of pissed off because: A) I didn't know it was Sora and I thought Ven had become corrupted and evil in Sora's heart which would never happen so I was mad, and B) it seemed soooo out of place and I'd thought the game was over already and honestly, the whole diving into Sora's dreams part seemed so tacked on and unnecessary.

But.

OMG VEN. ;_____; I just about died when I realized what he did. And then him, Xion and Roxas asking Riku questions to test him to make sure he was a good friend to Sora or whatever the heck happened there. AWW. AWWWW. My new headcanon is that Ven is totally the babysitter in Sora's heart. xD; He helps along all the new arrivals and takes care of Sora whenever he's sleeping on the job and skldjfls.

ven

/gives him all of the hugs in the world omg ;_;



Well, I suppose it was necessary or Sora would've ended up like Ven. All comatose and such and we don't want that. It was heartbreaking enough when it was Ven ohgod bbs y u one big cryfest ;___; and I saw his armor and I was like "HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO VEN NOMURA I AM DISAPPOINT."

-fangirl mode:on-
When Sora fell into darkness or whatever I was like "OMG SORA WAKE UP RIGHT THIS INSTANT YOUNG MAN I AM DISAPPOINT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING, FALLING ASLEEP IN FRONT OF YOUNG MASTER XEHANORT HE IS A PRICK OF THE HIGHEST ORDER AND WILL MOST LIKELY MURDER YOU IN YOUR SLEEP"

and then the little light popped out of nowhere and I was like "wtf is that" and then THEN it idk enveloped Sora or whatever and then it was VEN'S ARMOR and I was like "SK:LJDFSD:LFJSDGLHFLKSJDGKSDLFJSALFSDJGLGHSD VENTUS YOU SWEETHEART YOU ARE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER IN ANY FANDOM EVER" and I think Ven's question in Sora's heart or whatever is "What's most important to you?" WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD'VE ASKED BECAUSE HE IS THAT ADORABLE just asdfjkl I NEED A VEN PLUSHIE /wall of text

AL;KFJ;SLDKFJS;LDFJSLKFJSDGLHDSKFSJ CAN I USE THAT AS MY HEADCANON AS WELL BECAUSE THAT IS ADORABLE

btw lightning I'm seriously not trying to stalk you it just so happens that we like a lot of the same stuff and we both write walls of text about VEN i'm so sorry ;___;

CarefulWetPaint
May 4th, 2012, 06:20 PM
btw lightning I'm seriously not trying to stalk you it just so happens that we like a lot of the same stuff and we both write walls of text about VEN i'm so sorry ;___;


-cough- stalker -cough-

All this discussion has made me want to buy a new kingdom hearts game >.> I havent played any but 1 & 2 on the PS2.

What ending did you guys get in KH1? I remember getting an ending where it was a cut scene with Riku possibly looking for Sora iirc which i probably dont. I also got one where that didnt come up??
While on this was there different endings to KH2?? I only finished it once..

Do you guys suggest I pick it up chronological to get the fantastic experience you all seem to be having with it and i keep spoiling myself with because it sounds so fantastic and I loved 1 and 2 sooo much!
Or should I just get a certain one and go with that one?

Cherrim
May 4th, 2012, 06:31 PM
Perhaps when I'm not so strapped for cash. Still gotta get 3D when it comes out in english. asdfjkl I want to play it -dies
Well, if/when you have a chance, it's worth it. 8D So much fun.
Well, I suppose it was necessary or Sora would've ended up like Ven. All comatose and such and we don't want that. It was heartbreaking enough when it was Ven ohgod bbs y u one big cryfest ;___; and I saw his armor and I was like "HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO VEN NOMURA I AM DISAPPOINT."

-fangirl mode:on-
When Sora fell into darkness or whatever I was like "OMG SORA WAKE UP RIGHT THIS INSTANT YOUNG MAN I AM DISAPPOINT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING, FALLING ASLEEP IN FRONT OF YOUNG MASTER XEHANORT HE IS A PRICK OF THE HIGHEST ORDER AND WILL MOST LIKELY MURDER YOU YOUR SLEEP"

and then the little light popped out of nowhere and I was like "wtf is that" and then THEN it idk enveloped Sora or whatever and then it was VEN'S ARMOR and I was like "SK:LJDFSD:LFJSDGLHFLKSJDGKSDLFJSALFSDJGLGHSD VENTUS YOU SWEETHEART YOU ARE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER IN ANY FANDOM EVER" and I think Ven's question in Sora's heart or whatever is "What's most important to you?" WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD'VE ASKED BECAUSE HE IS THAT ADORABLE just asdfjkl I NEED A VEN PLUSHIE /wall of text
YEP THAT WAS ME TOO. I could not think of a single reason why Ven would've turned evil, especially in Sora's heart. And then I started panicking thinking that Vanitas (who I think also has a room in the Sora's Heart Hotel?) could have corrupted him or something. And then I got annoyed again that they were just pushing something like that to the end of the game with no explanation. (If that were the case, it would've made a cool extra boss or something, I remember thinking.)

Hahaha, after Riku goes through the questions and then meets DiZ on the beach or whatever, they laugh at the fact that Sora is always sleeping. And then of course I think I made the connection for the first time that Sora sleeps almost as much as through a lot just like Ven does. I... I'm not sure why I never noticed before, especially since COM is my favourite game after KH2. XD; So of course, now I wonder if Namine ever found Ven while she was rearranging Sora's heart while he slept. She's so all-knowing by the time KH2 comes around, it wouldn't surprise me. They would be adorable friends. .__.

I think that was Ven's question. And iirc, you have to answer "My friends" in order to get the secret ending. AWW. ;~; I just picked the sappiest answers for everyone without looking up a guide or anything and it all worked out.

[/just doesn't even turn fangirl mode off, don't mind me]
AL;KFJ;SLDKFJS;LDFJSLKFJSDGLHDSKFSJ CAN I USE THAT AS MY HEADCANON AS WELL BECAUSE THAT IS ADORABLE
b-babysitter!ven
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What ending did you guys get in KH1? I remember getting an ending where it was a cut scene with Riku possibly looking for Sora iirc which i probably dont. I also got one where that didnt come up??
While on this was there different endings to KH2?? I only finished it once..
There is only one ending to each of the game, but depending on how much of the game you completed (or what difficulty you played on), you can get extra cutscenes tacked on. The extra cutscenes for both games are:
In KH1, you see Riku fighting Roxas (though you can't tell it's Roxas) during a countdown from 13. I think. It's been a while. XD;

In KH2, you see a brief preview of Birth by Sleep. Terra, Aqua and Ven are standing (armoured) in the Keyblade Graveyard. I think Master Xehanort and Vanitas are in it, too. (It's okay if you have no clue who any of these people are... you aren't supposed to at this point. XD)

In KH2FM, for doing total completion, you get pretty much the trailer for Birth by Sleep, which takes place immediately after the scene in the original KH2 secret ending.
Do you guys suggest I pick it up chronological to get the fantastic experience you all seem to be having with it and i keep spoiling myself with because it sounds so fantastic and I loved 1 and 2 sooo much!
Or should I just get a certain one and go with that one?
Well, if you're going chronological order, Birth by Sleep (PSP) is the prequel to the whole series. And honestly, I think it's the best game in the series. It's definitely the best gameplay-wise (at least before KH3D), though it may just be my obsession with the game that leads me to say it's the best overall. XD;

Otherwise, the chronological next in the series is Chain of Memories. There's the GBA version and a prettied-up PS2 version. It uses a card-battle system so it's not the fandom favourite at all, but it's my second-favourite anyway. Next (takes place between KH1 and KH2, tells Roxas's story) is 358/2 Days. It's fun if you like the Organization but it doesn't really explain anything and it's not very essential to the story. Gameplay is the same as KH2 except toned down to fit the DS's controls. It's still quite playable though. I'd avoid Re:Coded because nothing of importance happens in it until the final cutscene and it was a horrible game (again, might be a little bias on my part but I did not enjoy it).

So yeah, I'd go with BBS and then Days, if you can. :D

CarefulWetPaint
May 4th, 2012, 07:11 PM
God I have trouble splitting up quotes is there an easy quick way to do it?

Thats what I meant by different endings meant more cut scenes >.<. I think thats awesome how they do that in the game.

358/2 Was the one that I did look at before KH2 But i was like ugh this blows and just didnt finish it /didnt care enough. But I guess I'll give it another go..

:O PSP :'( I dont have a PSP how else could I play this.. >.> But I will definitely try my best to play BBS because of your love for it! Its inspiring!

Do all the games have the extra cut scenes if you finish the game more completely??

Wouldnt and Advent Children type movie for Kingdom Hearts be awesome or what!

Sakura Rain
May 4th, 2012, 07:15 PM
-cough- stalker -cough-


;___________________;


Well, if/when you have a chance, it's worth it. 8D So much fun.

Argh I am totally wound up for it now MUST. PLAY. FINAL. EPISODE. or whatever the FM only part with Aqua is called.

YEP THAT WAS ME TOO. I could not think of a single reason why Ven would've turned evil, especially in Sora's heart. And then I started panicking thinking that Vanitas (who I think also has a room in the Sora's Heart Hotel?) could have corrupted him or something. And then I got annoyed again that they were just pushing something like that to the end of the game with no explanation. (If that were the case, it would've made a cool extra boss or something, I remember thinking.)

Hahaha, after Riku goes through the questions and then meets DiZ on the beach or whatever, they laugh at the fact that Sora is always sleeping. And then of course I think I made the connection for the first time that Sora sleeps almost as much as through a lot just like Ven does. I... I'm not sure why I never noticed before, especially since COM is my favourite game after KH2. XD; So of course, now I wonder if Namine ever found Ven while she was rearranging Sora's heart while he slept. She's so all-knowing by the time KH2 comes around, it wouldn't surprise me. They would be adorable friends. .__.

I think that was Ven's question. And iirc, you have to answer "My friends" in order to get the secret ending. AWW. ;~; I just picked the sappiest answers for everyone without looking up a guide or anything and it all worked out.

[/just doesn't even turn fangirl mode off, don't mind me]

b-babysitter!ven
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omg if you can believe this I didn't even think of Vanitas. BUT IF IT WAS VANITAS I WOULD HAVE MURDERED HIM AND THEN HE WOULD BE DEAD.asdfjkl I HATE VANITAS HE IS A PRICK OF THE HIGHEST ORDER And yeah I think he's in there somewhere but he's probably too scared of the awesomeness that is ventus to try anything XD I can totally see ProtectiveBigBrother!Ven murdering Vanitas over Sora XD HE IS FANTASTIC OKAY ven i mean not vanitas I hate Vanitas

And omg he does sleep a lot. I loved how they were both laughing about it omg it helped my heartbreak over sora seriously he got screwed over so badly in this game poor dear ;_; and then at the end of the game they showed ven at castle oblivion AND HE SMILED OR TWITCHED OR SOMETHING AT THE END and I was like kkl;jaslkdfjasd;lj young man you need to wake up this instant and i actually ship venxnamine does this make me a bad person ;_; and D'AWWWW OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED ANSWER FOR VEN. HE IS JUST TOO CUTE FOR LIFE ASDFJKL

MY FANGIRL METER JUST HIT THE CEILING. omg did you draw that asdfjkl

@CarefulWetPaint KH and KHII only had one ending I think. Definitely go chronological if you can. It makes a looooot more sense that way. I actually started with KHII so I was a little confused lol. Think of the poor people who started with Days. -shudder- And yes, avoid Re:coded like the plague. It's easily the worst entry in the series. I only got it because I wanted to have the whole series don't judge me

ToriSora
May 4th, 2012, 07:21 PM
KH3D has the best soundtrack. OMG its is wonderful for the ears.

Cherrim
May 4th, 2012, 07:57 PM
God I have trouble splitting up quotes is there an easy quick way to do it?
I usually just add in the quote tags manually, which really sucks. x_X; It's also fine to just reply to the whole post split by paragraphs though. I've just been so used to splitting them up to keep spoilers separate in this thread over the last week that it's become habit. :'D
358/2 Was the one that I did look at before KH2 But i was like ugh this blows and just didnt finish it /didnt care enough. But I guess I'll give it another go..

:O PSP :'( I dont have a PSP how else could I play this.. >.> But I will definitely try my best to play BBS because of your love for it! Its inspiring!
Yeah, it's not a very good game if you're looking for an epic like KH1 and KH2. It's pretty good as a handheld game--the gameplay is very suited to picking it up during a bus ride and doing a mission or two--but unless you really like the Organization (and I did), it's kind of ehh.

I've never been told that my love for BBS is inspiring but I'll definitely take it as a compliment. :D
Do all the games have the extra cut scenes if you finish the game more completely??
I think most of them do, yeah. Usually it's fine to beat them on the hardest difficulty if you aren't one for completion. And if not, there's always Youtube. (I used Youtube for the secret ending of Re:Coded because there was no way I was doing completion in that game. I haven't turned it on since the night I beat it, haha.)
Wouldnt and Advent Children type movie for Kingdom Hearts be awesome or what!
yes omg. ;~; It's not like they aren't ~partnered with Disney who is known for animated films~ or anything. :P Maaaan that would be so awesome.
Argh I am totally wound up for it now MUST. PLAY. FINAL. EPISODE. or whatever the FM only part with Aqua is called.
Yup, I think that was the name! And it was so awesome. A bit empty but the boss fight at the end was awesome. As was the secret ending that ended up being a lie square enix WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME ;__;
omg if you can believe this I didn't even think of Vanitas. BUT IF IT WAS VANITAS I WOULD HAVE MURDERED HIM AND THEN HE WOULD BE DEAD.asdfjkl I HATE VANITAS HE IS A PRICK OF THE HIGHEST ORDER And yeah I think he's in there somewhere but he's probably too scared of the awesomeness that is ventus to try anything XD I can totally see ProtectiveBigBrother!Ven murdering Vanitas over Sora XD HE IS FANTASTIC OKAY ven i mean not vanitas I hate Vanitas

And omg he does sleep a lot. I loved how they were both laughing about it omg it helped my heartbreak over sora seriously he got screwed over so badly in this game poor dear ;_; and then at the end of the game they showed ven at castle oblivion AND HE SMILED OR TWITCHED OR SOMETHING AT THE END and I was like kkl;jaslkdfjasd;lj young man you need to wake up this instant and i actually ship venxnamine does this make me a bad person ;_; and D'AWWWW OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED ANSWER FOR VEN. HE IS JUST TOO CUTE FOR LIFE ASDFJKL
Aww, man, I feel bad because every post I'm just like "WELL IN MY HEAD CANON..." but seriously I spend my days just thinking about all this stuff so I have a lot of head canon. But anyway! In my head canon, Sora hears all the voices in his head and all Vanitas ever manages to do are silly things like yelling out random numbers while Sora's trying to do a math test or flipping the Command Board whenever the people-in-Sora's-heart try to play it. Because they totally do that in their spare time. Since they probably, you know, have a lot of it. Ven would teach them how to play. And since he's absolutely horrible at it, no one would actually know how to play so I guess the board-flipping would kind of backfire on Vanitas anyway. He merged part of his heart with Sora. Sora. So he can't be that evil anymore. :P

Haha, DiZ creeps me out so I was amused when Riku made the joke and then switched to "DDDD:" when DiZ started laughing too. Maaan I think I dislike him almost as much as MX. ;_;' But omg Sora is such a trooper. He realizes he spent his entire Mark of Mastery exam asleep, doesn't become a Keyblade Master after everything he's done, and still gets more excited about Riku getting the title than Riku was. ;~; And I pretty much died when Riku wakes up from diving into Sora's heart and Sora's having a tea party without him. And Lea was being really creepy and sitting on the chair doing nothing but watching Riku sleep. And he was sitting on it backwards so it's not like he could even really have turned around as Riku woke up--he had nowhere else to look without sitting really awkwardly! :| Creeper!

I kind of started shipping Ven/Namine the moment I realized it was possible that she met him or even found him in Castle Oblivion. I have this mental image that won't go away of her finding the room he's in and going there every day during the events of COM when she was getting abused and forced to do things and like. Using him as a diary to talk through it. Even if he can't reply. Aww. ;_; (god there i go with my head canon again aaaugh.) But seriously, they'd be so cute. D:
MY FANGIRL METER JUST HIT THE CEILING. omg did you draw that asdfjkl

@CarefulWetPaint KH and KHII only had one ending I think. Definitely go chronological if you can. It makes a looooot more sense that way. I actually started with KHII so I was a little confused lol. Think of the poor people who started with Days. -shudder- And yes, avoid Re:coded like the plague. It's easily the worst entry in the series. I only got it because I wanted to have the whole series don't judge me
Yeah. 8D; I sat down after I beat KH3D expecting to draw something epic that appropriately got across how cool the final bosses and stuff were and ended up with that. Close enough, right?

And I can totally relate with the Re:Coded thing. I mean, I got it because I expected it to be decent... but I very nearly considered buying that DS game bundle that came out in Japan when 3DS did because it came with pretty art cards and I would've gotten a Japanese copy of Re:Coded. (That and COM are the only games I don't own in both English and Japanese.) Luckily, my roommates told me how dumb that was considering how out of my way I go to discourage people from playing it and I didn't. xD;;
KH3D has the best soundtrack. OMG its is wonderful for the ears.
Agreeed. I'm not a huge fan of the Dearly Beloved (I don't think anything will top BBS's for sheer beauty, for me) but I do know they had to do something different with it and Yoko Shimomura succeeded. But the last tracks on the OST? I love them so much. Especially the final boss fights, hhhnnng. They're amazing.

One thing I wasn't a huuuge fan of, though, was the Calling mix. D: Calling was my favourite song from TWEWY and I think it's kind of weird as a slower song like it is in KH3D. It was still okay but just not really my thing, which was kind of disappointing since I usually love remixes.

ToriSora
May 4th, 2012, 08:27 PM
One thing I wasn't a huuuge fan of, though, was the Calling mix. D: Calling was my favourite song from TWEWY and I think it's kind of weird as a slower song like it is in KH3D. It was still okay but just not really my thing, which was kind of disappointing since I usually love remixes.

I agree. The original version was the best.

Cherrim
May 4th, 2012, 08:39 PM
I agree. The original version was the best.
I also found the remixes to be really distracting in KH. Part of it was probably that I hadn't heard them before they showed up in the game, but they used them as BGM for the cutscenes. :s So I'd be sitting there trying to translate everything and I'd miss out on the pronunciation of some words and have to look up the kanji instead because all I could hear were the lyrics to the BGM instead. So that... kind of sucked. XD; I did really like the Twister mix though.

Sakura Rain
May 4th, 2012, 08:45 PM
Yup, I think that was the name! And it was so awesome. A bit empty but the boss fight at the end was awesome. As was the secret ending that ended up being a lie square enix WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME ;__;

ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW. MY RAGE IT SHALL SCORCH THE EARTH ASDFKJL

Aww, man, I feel bad because every post I'm just like "WELL IN MY HEAD CANON..." but seriously I spend my days just thinking about all this stuff so I have a lot of head canon. But anyway! In my head canon, Sora hears all the voices in his head and all Vanitas ever manages to do are silly things like yelling out random numbers while Sora's trying to do a math test or flipping the Command Board whenever the people-in-Sora's-heart try to play it. Because they totally do that in their spare time. Since they probably, you know, have a lot of it. Ven would teach them how to play. And since he's absolutely horrible at it, no one would actually know how to play so I guess the board-flipping would kind of backfire on Vanitas anyway. He merged part of his heart with Sora. Sora. So he can't be that evil anymore. :P

...I think your headcanon is the best headcanon XD omg I can just see poor Ven getting all flustered trying to explain the Command Board to everyone and they're just like "DOES. NOT. COMPUTE." and vanitas seriously freaks me out a little bit he was a ven stalker and really really psycho. Dunno how ven's darkness was so vast that it made him but gah. The entire thing confuses me ;_;

Haha, DiZ creeps me out so I was amused when Riku made the joke and then switched to "DDDD:" when DiZ started laughing too. Maaan I think I dislike him almost as much as MX. ;_;' But omg Sora is such a trooper. He realizes he spent his entire Mark of Mastery exam asleep, doesn't become a Keyblade Master after everything he's done, and still gets more excited about Riku getting the title than Riku was. ;~; And I pretty much died when Riku wakes up from diving into Sora's heart and Sora's having a tea party without him. And Lea was being really creepy and sitting on the chair doing nothing but watching Riku sleep. And he was sitting on it backwards so it's not like he could even really have turned around as Riku woke up--he had nowhere else to look without sitting really awkwardly! :| Creeper!

DiZ isn't my favorite character either. Like he was really really mean to Roxas and Namine even though nami isn't really my favorite character either but i ship her with ven because THAT IS CUTE In KHII he was all OMG YOU DON'T EXIST and I was like "really 'cause i just played the longest prologue ever as someone who according to you doesn't exist you idiot" omg I just felt so bad for Sora omg. When YMX put him to sleep or whatever he did i was like NO NO YOU STOP THAT RIGHT THIS INSTANT and jesus. I thought it was kind of cute that Sora called out for Riku right before he fell unconscious. Oh Sora, you're just providing fuel for the fangirls, sweetie. it was really cute though omg and omg I was so proud of him for taking it so well and being so happy for Riku. and Riku was all 0_0 he really couldn't believe it the sweetheart XD MASTER RIKU <3 Creeper!Lea is the only Lea, lol. Remember he was all creeper-ry to Ven in BbS XD

I kind of started shipping Ven/Namine the moment I realized it was possible that she met him or even found him in Castle Oblivion. I have this mental image that won't go away of her finding the room he's in and going there every day during the events of COM when she was getting abused and forced to do things and like. Using him as a diary to talk through it. Even if he can't reply. Aww. ;_; (god there i go with my head canon again aaaugh.) But seriously, they'd be so cute. D:

As previously mentioned, your headcanon is the best headcanon. I read a fanfic like that once, only Ven could talk to her through her mind or somesuch, and she didn't actually get into the room, and she only met him once, and asdfjkl VENXNAMI OTP


Yeah. 8D; I sat down after I beat KH3D expecting to draw something epic that appropriately got across how cool the final bosses and stuff were and ended up with that. Close enough, right?

That is fantastic. Because all we care about is the Ventus. Omg you should draw a picture of Ven'sArmor!Sora vs Riku if you're looking for something to get across how cool the final bosses are. I've heard people going on about how cool YMX is and how much of a letdown Ven'sArmor!Sora is and I'm like "IT'S VEN. DENIED!" besides the vids I saw of the battle made it look epic and awesome and asdfjkl. THE ARMOR FIGHTS WITH VEN'S STYLE ASDFJKL I SWEAR I SAW AIR FLAIR AND FEVER PITCH IN THERE SOMEWHERE

And I can totally relate with the Re:Coded thing. I mean, I got it because I expected it to be decent... but I very nearly considered buying that DS game bundle that came out in Japan when 3DS did because it came with pretty art cards and I would've gotten a Japanese copy of Re:Coded. (That and COM are the only games I don't own in both English and Japanese.) Luckily, my roommates told me how dumb that was considering how out of my way I go to discourage people from playing it and I didn't. xD;;


I, on the other hand, already knew it was crap and only got it because I wanted the complete series. i have no life D; Like, the existence of Dream Drop Distance completely spoils Re:coded's secret ending. It also spoils the ending of BbS but that is an excellent game so it doesn't really matter :D

NOTHING WILL EVER TOP DEARLY BELOVED BBS VERSION. IT IS THE UNSURPASSED AND UNSURPASSABLE PINNACLE OF KH MUSIC I love the final boss theme of 3D though. It needed more Sora's theme though. And more Ven's theme. XD

/wall of text

ToriSora
May 5th, 2012, 02:53 AM
I wonder if FF Versus will have a release date announced at E3. I'm guessing 2021 XD TBH with how things are going I would not be shocked.... It was announced in 2006 right?

Cherrim
May 5th, 2012, 08:52 AM
ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW. MY RAGE IT SHALL SCORCH THE EARTH ASDFKJL
Uh-huh. ;_; They said so in the KH3D Ultimania interview. Worst part is they said they have the story all there and everything, they just... aren't doing it?? So I guess it'll be tossed in as random cutscenes through KH3 or something instead, I dunno. I am disappointed.
...I think your headcanon is the best headcanon XD omg I can just see poor Ven getting all flustered trying to explain the Command Board to everyone and they're just like "DOES. NOT. COMPUTE." and vanitas seriously freaks me out a little bit he was a ven stalker and really really psycho. Dunno how ven's darkness was so vast that it made him but gah. The entire thing confuses me ;_;
Thank you~ xD; I imagine they'd just make up rules as they went along when Ven wouldn't remember something, to the CB they play is probably waaaay different from the one we play in BBS.

I think Vanitas's darkness is so massive because the abuse MX put Ven through before he split them. :( I haven't played Ven's story as much as the others but while he was "training", wasn't he pretty much mauled by Neoshadows at some point? I imagine all his training was like that and it would probably be really hard to not turn to the darkness with MX yelling at you to do it the whole time. So after the split, the natural darkness he had plus whatever had accumulated during the training, plus any darkness that might creep in from MX when he split them was probably more than enough to make Vanitas (who probably got further training in the dark arts from then on ). I might be all wrong if I have any of the initial details wrong though, which is possible. xD;
DiZ isn't my favorite character either. Like he was really really mean to Roxas and Namine even though nami isn't really my favorite character either but i ship her with ven because THAT IS CUTE In KHII he was all OMG YOU DON'T EXIST and I was like "really 'cause i just played the longest prologue ever as someone who according to you doesn't exist you idiot" omg I just felt so bad for Sora omg. When YMX put him to sleep or whatever he did i was like NO NO YOU STOP THAT RIGHT THIS INSTANT and jesus. I thought it was kind of cute that Sora called out for Riku right before he fell unconscious. Oh Sora, you're just providing fuel for the fangirls, sweetie. it was really cute though omg and omg I was so proud of him for taking it so well and being so happy for Riku. and Riku was all 0_0 he really couldn't believe it the sweetheart XD [I]MASTER RIKU <3 Creeper!Lea is the only Lea, lol. Remember he was all creeper-ry to Ven in BbS XD
He was horrible to Namine. I mean, she gets out of Marluxia's grasp and you think "oh, everything's going to be okay now" and then DiZ is just as bad. ;_; She's doing her best to fix Sora and he's bossing her around, telling her how much she doesn't matter, and telling her to go faster. I mean, I'm kind of a hypocrite because Marluxia's my favourite so I never had a problem with his abuse (well, not that I didn't have a problem, I just... like it as part of his character I DON'T KNOW) but at least she had someone to save her there. ;~; But there, Namine and Riku both knew that they needed DiZ's protection while they fixed Sora or the Organization would probably cause problems so there was nothing they could do and alkdjs. Poor Namine. I didn't like her as much in KH2 because she became so all-knowing which was kind of annoying (since she also never tells anyone anything 8|) and I hated that they tried to make everyone ship Roxas/Namine for pretty much no reason at all (I still don't understand it). On the whole, I really like her though. I like pretty much everyone. Except Riku. Although even that changed sliiightly after 3D.

Oh man, I kind of feel like KH3D is practically just one big Riku/Sora fanfic. Which sucks because I've never shipped them. XD; As soon as Riku wakes up at the end after saving Sora, Sora tackle-hugs him and pretty much doesn't let go until Yen Sid calls them over to announce the results of the Mastery exam. 8| Then the sheer trust between them in pretty much every scene where they have to talk/think about one another... yeah. It's gonna make a loooooot of fangirls happy.

You're right though, Lea's always been a creeper. xD; It shouldn't have surprised me.
As previously mentioned, your headcanon is the best headcanon. I read a fanfic like that once, only Ven could talk to her through her mind or somesuch, and she didn't actually get into the room, and she only met him once, and asdfjkl VENXNAMI OTP
I am thinking that this fanfic needs to be linked to me asap. :( It's funny, 'cause the first few times I'd come across all the Ven/Namine fanart on Tumblr, my roommate and I were just like "WTF". Then a few days later I got that image of her talking to him in C.O. or whatever and my roommate was so ashamed of me when I had to admit that I shipped it. XD; I mean, not that he was surprised because I ship everything but I usually have a reason slightly better than "I imagined them in the same room." Usually.
That is fantastic. Because all we care about is the Ventus. Omg you should draw a picture of Ven'sArmor!Sora vs Riku if you're looking for something to get across how cool the final bosses are. I've heard people going on about how cool YMX is and how much of a letdown Ven'sArmor!Sora is and I'm like "IT'S VEN. DENIED!" besides the vids I saw of the battle made it look epic and awesome and asdfjkl. THE ARMOR FIGHTS WITH VEN'S STYLE ASDFJKL I SWEAR I SAW AIR FLAIR AND FEVER PITCH IN THERE SOMEWHERE
Also true!

Maaan I suck at action images but that is one of the things I wanted to draw. n_n Honestly, the Armour fight was kind of a let down because it was super easy. (Sora sucks at fighting backhand, I guess. XD) I think it took me two tries whereas YMX took like 15. I liked the YMX one more since I fought MF sooo many times in BBS and got so familiar with the music T because Terra SUCKS at dodging so I probably spent like 6 hours listening to that BGM trying to beat him with Terra and hearing that remixed, finding out who MF was, and fighting a harder version of him was exhilarating and few things have matched that feeling for me in the KH series.

Plus, as I said, the whole time I was fighting the Armour I was just pissed off because it felt so tacked-on and I knew they were gonna have to give me one damn good reason Ven had turned evil in Sora's heart. But it wasn't a bad fight at all. He definitely uses Ven's attacks and while I never used Ven a whole lot in BBS compared to the others (Terra I had to use more because he sucks and I did completion on Normal for him, so I had to play through again and Aqua's my favourite so I have like a million files for her 8D), I still recognized his attacks instantly. So it was really cool fighting him like that. It felt a lot like the end of Terra's story in BBS after MX takes over his body and you fight him as Terra's Armour. It felt more like fighting Terra than MX because he was using Terra's fighting style, shot locks, command finishers, etc. That's kind of what this is like. (So now I'm just waiting for a dark!Aqua fight somehow. Although the premise of that sounds really depressing, like she finally gave into the darkness or something, so now maybe I don't want it. XD)

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Ven'sArmor!Sora used shotlocks too. :D That was pretty exciting, I'm not gonna lie.
I, on the other hand, already knew it was crap and only got it because I wanted the complete series. i have no life D; Like, the existence of Dream Drop Distance completely spoils Re:coded's secret ending. It also spoils the ending of BbS but that is an excellent game so it doesn't really matter :D
Well, I still can't fault you there. People have asked me why I don't just sell my copy of Re:Coded if I hate it so much--since I could've gotten a decent price for it back when it first came out--and I looked at them like they were insane. Have an incomplete KH collection? Are they crazy? (I am now coming to the realization though that if I don't buy 3DS in English--despite not even having an English 3DS--I won't own all the games in English. x_o DILEMMA. Maybe I should buy it and play it on my roommate's 3DS when he's done with the game.)

Also the ending of BBS is mostly spoilt by its trailer, so that can't be much of a complaint. (I mean, we don't get details but just from the trailer and the fact that it's a prequel and we've never seen the characters before kind of confirmed that nothing good came of the ending. ;~;)
NOTHING WILL EVER TOP DEARLY BELOVED BBS VERSION. IT IS THE UNSURPASSED AND UNSURPASSABLE PINNACLE OF KH MUSIC I love the final boss theme of 3D though. It needed more Sora's theme though. And more Ven's theme. XD

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The Dearly Beloveds get steadily better until BBS. KH1's is very simple, COM adds a few more notes in, KH2 improves it again, Re:COM was another improvement, and then I thought nothing could top Days' version and then BBS was like "OH YEAH? HAVE SOME VIOLINS" and I died. ;~; I love it so, so much. So I was really excited for Re:Coded's version of it expecting the trend to continue and it was just like "nope, have a boring one". O-oh. Okay. But 3DS's is probably my second favourite just because it's something new and it's still very pretty.

It's hard for me to pick a favourite boss fight music from 3D. I like all of them so much. ;~;
Xemnas's new one is great, even Ansem's brings something new to the theme which has been in like every KH since the first one. xD; YMX's is probably my favourite if I had to pick one but I also really love Armor!Sora's because of all the themes it ties into the Dive to Heart music.
I wonder if FF Versus will have a release date announced at E3. I'm guessing 2021 XD TBH with how things are going I would not be shocked.... It was announced in 2006 right?
...yuuup. 8| I doubt they'll have a release date at E3 but I'm hoping we'll get one at Tokyo Game Show in September. :( I think the only S-E game that's ever gotten a release date/window at E3 that didn't already have one in Japan was FF14 and that... didn't go so well. XD;

God, I really want it to get a release date, though. I'm so tired of waiting that I'm not even excited for the game anymore. :(

Cid
May 5th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Whoa I missed a lot after leaving for four days, hahaha. You guys make this FC really bustling.

@Ultimania
Gah, I hate this decision they made so much, too. I mean, why even bother with a Final Mix and a Secret Ending (which is totally the point of the Final Mix, aside from more BBS goodness) if you're not going to take it seriously? I really wish Nomura was just kidding with his wry laughs and all. D:

@Ven trying to explain the Command Board
That's really funny to visualize, hahaha. Yeah I never had the impression that Ven was good at it judging from the adorably dumb AI.
I always thought Master Xehanort put a little of himself into Ven's darkness, but who knows, maybe Ven had a really dark past. If MX deed put his seed in Vanitas (Oh God that sounds so wrong) then maybe we'll be seeing him as one of the thirteen darknesses or something. Why does MX remind me so much of Voldemort?
I think Vanitas's darkness is so massive because the abuse MX put Ven through before he split them. :( I haven't played Ven's story as much as the others but while he was "training", wasn't he pretty much mauled by Neoshadows at some point? I imagine all his training was like that and it would probably be really hard to not turn to the darkness with MX yelling at you to do it the whole time. So after the split, the natural darkness he had plus whatever had accumulated during the training, plus any darkness that might creep in from MX when he split them was probably more than enough to make Vanitas (who probably got further training in the dark arts from then on [I shouldn't have used the phrase "dark arts", now I'm considering harry potter AUs augh]). I might be all wrong if I have any of the initial details wrong though, which is possible. xD;
Or this one, I think this is a more correct explanation. XD

@DiZ, Nami, Lea etc.
Yeah I hated DiZ after what he did to Roxas and Namine. I thought he was awesome in CoM but yeah, KHII ruined him. Namine was really one of my favourite characters, she arguably had more development than Kairi. But yeah, I did find it off when she started being this ghostly presence for Roxas and everyone else in KHII.
Goodness, I just watched that scene Sakura described now and I just wanted to get Sora out of there, gah. And the ending was really awkward but funny all the same. I wish they gave Kairi more of a role in the game, though! D: But yeah, in the ending Sora was still really happy-go-lucky which was odd, but I loved how he appeared when he looked into the distance as he set-off on his own, like he was all grown up like never before or something. And whoa, I just realized how creepy Lea was in that scene.

@Ven x Nami
Lightning's headcanon is pretty darn awesome, haha. And I'd be okay with a Ven x Namine ship because the poor girl seems to have no chance to be with Sora (even though she obviously likes Sora more than she's supposed to judging CoM, yes Namine from KHII is not valid because it doesn't feel right when she's all sweet with Roxas at all), and it would make good history of her finding out about Ventus, Terra and Aqua.
She knew from the Re:Coded ending remember? I don't think it's just DiZ ordering her to tell Sora as her Data self, I think she actually heard about it from Ven in CO.

@KH3D Final Boss
I don't understand why the final boss was exactly a letdown when that fight was a complete 180 degree reversal of the Sora vs Riku fight except Ven's fighting style is used but! Sora's still in the armor isn't he? I guess it is Ven. It did look really awesome and epic, not disappointing at all. And Lightning describes it as really awesome.

@Re:Coded and KH soundtrack
I thought Re:Coded was decent for its well-designed gameplay. Just not on-par with the rest of the series. But yeah, that's true the secret ending is basically useless now. And BBS really is a great game, I absolutely loved its Dearly Beloved too (I just listen to it randomly and just feel all dreamy and in the KH mood). Yeah, btw Sakura if you're looking for a final boss theme with the stuff you wanted more in the spoiler, look no further than the soundtrack for Ven's final boss in BBS. Some awesome music right there.

I wonder if FF Versus will have a release date announced at E3. I'm guessing 2021 XD TBH with how things are going I would not be shocked.... It was announced in 2006 right?
I actually want them to just announce either that game or KHIII already since it's taking such a long time for them to release even just a glimpse of the game. And yes it was announced alongside FFXIII, and that makes me wonder, aren't the Osaka teams making FF Versus XIII and KHIII one and the same?

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I actually tried multiple quotes but the post had more quotes than my replies so I made it the way it is now instead. XD

ToriSora
May 5th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Watch KH3D Final Mix come out next year XD

Cid
May 5th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Well, they did mention this in the KH3D Ultimania (Nomura interview):

-- KH3D FM?

Nomura: Maybe in a few years, but no plans for it right now. The Osaka team is really busy.

That might signify good news for Versus XIII fans if they're the same team making the game. Work is being done in the game, possibly just in time for E3 2012! Good news for KHIII fans, too, since we'll see the comparable quality that KHIII will be if it's ever released in the same console. I want HD KHIII. :D

Sakura Rain
May 5th, 2012, 08:20 PM
Uh-huh. ;_; They said so in the KH3D Ultimania interview. Worst part is they said they have the story all there and everything, they just... aren't doing it?? So I guess it'll be tossed in as random cutscenes through KH3 or something instead, I dunno. I am disappointed.

THIS MAKES ME ANGRY. ANNNNNNNGRY. I MEAN ASDFJKL WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AN ENDING THAT EPIC AND THEN GO "LOLNOBBSVOLUME2FORYOU" graaaaaah.

Thank you~ xD; I imagine they'd just make up rules as they went along when Ven wouldn't remember something, to the CB they play is probably waaaay different from the one we play in BBS.

Gaaaah I'm still getting mental images of Flustered!Ven and it is killing my heart KILLING IT I SAY -dies-

I think Vanitas's darkness is so massive because the abuse MX put Ven through before he split them. :( I haven't played Ven's story as much as the others but while he was "training", wasn't he pretty much mauled by Neoshadows at some point? I imagine all his training was like that and it would probably be really hard to not turn to the darkness with MX yelling at you to do it the whole time. So after the split, the natural darkness he had plus whatever had accumulated during the training, plus any darkness that might creep in from MX when he split them was probably more than enough to make Vanitas (who probably got further training in the dark arts from then on [I shouldn't have used the phrase "dark arts", now I'm considering harry potter AUs augh]). I might be all wrong if I have any of the initial details wrong though, which is possible. xD;

How dare you yell at Ven, MX I will break your nose and arms and ribs and whatever else occurs to me. And yeah, he wouldn't fight the Neoshadows and they all jumped on him and knocked him out and this is when the cutscene we discussed earlier takes place (Creation of Vanitas, blank-eyes Ven) and ICK OLD MAN DARKNESS SDLFKSDFJL. and now I'm sort of wondering if Vanitas is going to be one of the new Nortys, asdfjkl. I don't see how this could happen unless Vanitas is somehow separated from Ven, though.ohgod you shouldn't have DON'T MIX THE TWO TOGETHER IT ONLY COMPLICATES MATTERS

He was horrible to Namine. I mean, she gets out of Marluxia's grasp and you think "oh, everything's going to be okay now" and then DiZ is just as bad. ;_; She's doing her best to fix Sora and he's bossing her around, telling her how much she doesn't matter, and telling her to go faster. I mean, I'm kind of a hypocrite because Marluxia's my favourite so I never had a problem with his abuse (well, not that I didn't have a problem, I just... like it as part of his character I DON'T KNOW) but at least she had someone to save her there. ;~; But there, Namine and Riku both knew that they needed DiZ's protection while they fixed Sora or the Organization would probably cause problems so there was nothing they could do and alkdjs. Poor Namine. I didn't like her as much in KH2 because she became so all-knowing which was kind of annoying (since she also never tells anyone anything 8|) and I hated that they tried to make everyone ship Roxas/Namine for pretty much no reason at all (I still don't understand it). On the whole, I really like her though. I like pretty much everyone. Except Riku. Although even that changed sliiightly after 3D.

Ohgod he was. I was going "CHILD ABUSE! CHILD ABUSE! CALL CHILDREN'S SERVICES PLEASE" but yeah. Marluxia sort of did the same thing but he's a bad guy I guess it is part of his character to be sadistic and mean and yeah so it's amazing that someone who is apparently a "good guy" would treat someone like that. jesus. Diz I am disappoint. and wasn't Data-Namine all-knowing as well? Like she knew about Xion and the BbS trio, didn't she? I like Riku, except in KHI, for obvious reasons. He's angsty in CoM/Days all the way up to the end of KHII but I think he really improved in Dream Drop Distance so I was proud of him okay

Oh man, I kind of feel like KH3D is practically just one big Riku/Sora fanfic. Which sucks because I've never shipped them. XD; As soon as Riku wakes up at the end after saving Sora, Sora tackle-hugs him and pretty much doesn't let go until Yen Sid calls them over to announce the results of the Mastery exam. 8| Then the sheer trust between them in pretty much every scene where they have to talk/think about one another... yeah. It's gonna make a loooooot of fangirls happy.

You're right though, Lea's always been a creeper. xD; It shouldn't have surprised me.

I often call both KH3D and Re:coded "Soriku: The Game". Because they both really are lol. And that hug that hug I was loling so hard and then there was the part where Riku was trying to wake Sora up and he grabbed his hand and Sora heard Riku in his dream and I was like "I CAN HEAR THE CRIES OF THE FANGIRLS" and I sort of started shipping them after KH3D please don't judge me I COULDN'T HELP IT XD;

Yep, creeper is Lea's default state of being XD

I am thinking that this fanfic needs to be linked to me asap. :( It's funny, 'cause the first few times I'd come across all the Ven/Namine fanart on Tumblr, my roommate and I were just like "WTF". Then a few days later I got that image of her talking to him in C.O. or whatever and my roommate was so ashamed of me when I had to admit that I shipped it. XD; I mean, not that he was surprised because I ship everything but I usually have a reason slightly better than "I imagined them in the same room." Usually.


Here you go, dear~ (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5865098/1/Whispers_of_the_Heart) I really really like it, it's fluffy and it makes my heart go doki doki so it's legit XD and now I'm off to Tumblr to FIND ALL THE VEN/NAMI FANART WHEEEEE~ don't worry hun I ship everything too as of KH3D lol

Also true!

Maaan I suck at action images but that is one of the things I wanted to draw. n_n Honestly, the Armour fight was kind of a let down because it was super easy. (Sora sucks at fighting backhand, I guess. XD) I think it took me two tries whereas YMX took like 15. I liked the YMX one more since I fought MF sooo many times in BBS and got so familiar with the music T because Terra SUCKS at dodging so I probably spent like 6 hours listening to that BGM trying to beat him with Terra and hearing that remixed, finding out who MF was, and fighting a harder version of him was exhilarating and few things have matched that feeling for me in the KH series.

Plus, as I said, the whole time I was fighting the Armour I was just pissed off because it felt so tacked-on and I knew they were gonna have to give me one damn good reason Ven had turned evil in Sora's heart. But it wasn't a bad fight at all. He definitely uses Ven's attacks and while I never used Ven a whole lot in BBS compared to the others (Terra I had to use more because he sucks and I did completion on Normal for him, so I had to play through again and Aqua's my favourite so I have like a million files for her 8D), I still recognized his attacks instantly. So it was really cool fighting him like that. It felt a lot like the end of Terra's story in BBS after MX takes over his body and you fight him as Terra's Armour. It felt more like fighting Terra than MX because he was using Terra's fighting style, shot locks, command finishers, etc. That's kind of what this is like. (So now I'm just waiting for a dark!Aqua fight somehow. Although the premise of that sounds really depressing, like she finally gave into the darkness or something, so now maybe I don't want it. XD)

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Ven'sArmor!Sora used shotlocks too. :D That was pretty exciting, I'm not gonna lie.

Well, considering my INTENSE HATRED for anything Xehanort-related and my love and feels for Ven, I would probably like Ven'sArmor!Sora more, entirely because it's Ven's armor XD. On the other hand, though, DAT DARK IMPETUS REMIX. WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS MY LOVE FOR THOSE STRINGS asdfjkl. and I suppose they didn't want to put two tough bosses right in a row, so they toned down Ven'sArmor!Sora a bit (lol poor Sora doesn't know how to fight backhand XD) So since Ven is obviously my favorite and I have over 9000 files for him, I will definitely recognize his attacks? Because as I've previously mentioned, low quality cutscenes are the devil and I really couldn't see what he was doing D8 NOOOOOOO AQUA WILL NEVER GIVE IN TO DARKNESS. Maybe a possessed!Aqua fight? Aquanort? XEHANORTTTTTTTTT D:<

Well, I still can't fault you there. People have asked me why I don't just sell my copy of Re:Coded if I hate it so much--since I could've gotten a decent price for it back when it first came out--and I looked at them like they were insane. Have an incomplete KH collection? Are they crazy? (I am now coming to the realization though that if I don't buy 3DS in English--despite not even having an English 3DS--I won't own all the games in English. x_o DILEMMA. Maybe I should buy it and play it on my roommate's 3DS when he's done with the game.)

Yesssss this is entirely me. MUST HAVE COMPLETE COLLECTION. (...I am going to assume getting an english 3DS is out of the question? in that case yeah I would just borrow it from someone else. Butbut then you won't own it for yourself and asdfjkl THAT CAN'T HAPPEN DX)


Also the ending of BBS is mostly spoilt by its trailer, so that can't be much of a complaint. (I mean, we don't get details but just from the trailer and the fact that it's a prequel and we've never seen the characters before kind of confirmed that nothing good came of the ending. ;~;)

BbS was one gigantic cry/rage/bawl-fest. This is the complete and undeniable truth. ;__________________;

The Dearly Beloveds get steadily better until BBS. KH1's is very simple, COM adds a few more notes in, KH2 improves it again, Re:COM was another improvement, and then I thought nothing could top Days' version and then BBS was like "OH YEAH? HAVE SOME VIOLINS" and I died. ;~; I love it so, so much. So I was really excited for Re:Coded's version of it expecting the trend to continue and it was just like "nope, have a boring one". O-oh. Okay. But 3DS's is probably my second favourite just because it's something new and it's still very pretty.

I think Re:coded's is supposed to resemble KHI's. For some reason. Even though it's set long after KHI. It just reminded me of KHI's okay ;_; and yeah the BbS version and Days version and 3D version are all the best but BbS is the super best asdfjkl

It's hard for me to pick a favourite boss fight music from 3D. I like all of them so much. ;~;
Xemnas's new one is great, even Ansem's brings something new to the theme which has been in like every KH since the first one. xD; YMX's is probably my favourite if I had to pick one but I also really love Armor!Sora's because of all the themes it ties into the Dive to Heart music.

Xemnas' is fantastic, and the boss music from the Tron:Legacy world is spectacular but all of them need moar Ven's Theme or at least Ven'sArmor!Sora does because I mean come on humor the Ven fangirl just a bit please ;_;


Whoa I missed a lot after leaving for four days, hahaha. You guys make this FC really bustling.

most of mine and Lightning's posts are Ven fangirling, pay us no mind dear XD

Goodness, I just watched that scene Sakura described now and I just wanted to get Sora out of there, gah. And the ending was really awkward but funny all the same. I wish they gave Kairi more of a role in the game, though! D: But yeah, in the ending Sora was still really happy-go-lucky which was odd, but I loved how he appeared when he looked into the distance as he set-off on his own, like he was all grown up like never before or something. And whoa, I just realized how creepy Lea was in that scene.


ohgod i know right? YMX is every bit as creepy as MX, kljfslkfj. I was hoping Riku or Mickey would come swooping in out of nowhere to save the day but no. YMX just goes "Goodnight, Sora." And I was like LKSDJ:FSDLFJSDLKGHSDLKFJSDLK XEHANORTTTTTTTTTTT and I think the secret ending had Kairi in it she apparently is going to be training to use the keyblade under Master Yen Sid! apparently. who knows if nomura will go through with it, lol. I REPEAT: Creeper!Lea is the only Lea. XD

Watch KH3D Final Mix come out next year XD

I would lol forever

/mygodwalloftext

CarefulWetPaint
May 6th, 2012, 02:35 AM
So much massive wall of text.

To many spoilers Im going to play these games now so cant just spoil myself with you two fangirling!

Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?

Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??

Cid
May 6th, 2012, 03:20 AM
most of mine and Lightning's posts are Ven fangirling, pay us no mind dear XD

ohgod i know right? YMX is every bit as creepy as MX, kljfslkfj. I was hoping Riku or Mickey would come swooping in out of nowhere to save the day but no. YMX just goes "Goodnight, Sora." And I was like LKSDJ:FSDLFJSDLKGHSDLKFJSDLK XEHANORTTTTTTTTTTT and I think the secret ending had Kairi in it she apparently is going to be training to use the keyblade under Master Yen Sid! apparently. who knows if nomura will go through with it, lol. I REPEAT: Creeper!Lea is the only Lea. XD
Heh I don't mind that much. I've posted a fair share of walls of text myself.
So yeah, just continue on fangirling, this is the SE Fan Club after all.
They act as pretty interesting reads, too.

Both MX incarnations are creepy in their own ways, Geezernort from being a geezer and messing with young childrens' heads, and YMX from all that time travel and mindblowing illusions. Yeah I was expecting someone to show up and save him, too, but at least Ven attempted to save him before he completely fell into darkness. Yes, that secret ending actually gave me hope for Kairi even though I was convinced back then that giving her a Keyblade was a weird idea. But I'm okay with it now. Creeper Lea, haha. And you'd think he already had enough from being with Roxas and Xion during Days.

So much massive wall of text.

To many spoilers Im going to play these games now so cant just spoil myself with you two fangirling!

Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?

Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??
It'd be really great if you finally get to play the games, haha.

A Kingdom Hearts movie a la Advent Children would actually be pretty awesome, but as far as chances go, there's only a slim chance of it actually happening. Sure Disney helping out Square-Enix would be a plus but it's going to be quite a high-budget movie, getting together all these stars to voice a full hour-length movie would prove to be quite a daunting task for them. I don't think KH has enough of an audience for their standards, either. I wish they'd still think of turning this idea into a reality though! It would just change my life.

CarefulWetPaint
May 6th, 2012, 03:26 AM
It'd be really great if you finally get to play the games, haha.

A Kingdom Hearts movie a la Advent Children would actually be pretty awesome, but as far as chances go, there's only a slim chance of it actually happening. Sure Disney helping out Square-Enix would be a plus but it's going to be quite a high-budget movie, getting together all these stars to voice a full hour-length movie would prove to be quite a daunting task for them. I don't think KH has enough of an audience for their standards, either. I wish they'd still think of turning this idea into a reality though! It would just change my life.

Im getting around to it! I just gotta find me a PSP or a way to play PSP games >.>

Ugh all the spoilers make me want to read them but i dont want to ruin the games anymore then i have!

1 hour please it would have to be at least 2 xD. Kingdom hearts Advent Children style would be amazing! And I really don't think it'd cost all THAT much in all honesty..
Im also sure it'd make a bunch of money with people buying it! Probably even fairly profitable I'd say. I'd buy it for sure.

Cid
May 6th, 2012, 04:21 AM
Im getting around to it! I just gotta find me a PSP or a way to play PSP games >.>

Ugh all the spoilers make me want to read them but i dont want to ruin the games anymore then i have!

1 hour please it would have to be at least 2 xD. Kingdom hearts Advent Children style would be amazing! And I really don't think it'd cost all THAT much in all honesty..
Im also sure it'd make a bunch of money with people buying it! Probably even fairly profitable I'd say. I'd buy it for sure.

Ah, that's hard. For the most part, getting the system was the most difficult part of playing the series. I had to help my brother save up money so we could both play. So much worth it, though.

Hey, don't worry. I'll try to lessen the spoilers and the tags of the same name from now on. I apologize for being part of filling the posts with them, though, but you'd expect it to be hard to get away from spoilers in a fan club.

Yeah, I actually meant to say full hours-length movie but it sounded weird. Hahaha. But yes it would be nothing short of spectacular, and they better make the numbered games on par with FFXIII in the graphics department. They have well-known English voice actors for the job. Not to mention the pay for each and every person on the team who would render all the cutscenes, the technology and equipment they'll need, the right marketing, the money they'll give the higher-ups from both Disney and SE, and a huge wad of cash for Nomura.

I actually don't know how movies like that can be made profitable. I'm thinking Advent Children did it but the huge fanbase played a large role on that. I must include here that I'll definitely buy the KH movie if it ever gets made, too. Or watch it if it airs in theaters.

Rokusasu
May 6th, 2012, 06:42 AM
I JOIN PLZ????

I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for

Cherrim
May 6th, 2012, 11:07 AM
I'm gonna start marking my spoilers with what's spoilered since they aren't even all KH3D spoilers by this point so there are some parts of conversation that other people can jump into as well.

Also... KH is kind of taking over the general S-E thread and I feel like that must be alienating people. :( It's mainly just that 3D is out and we're speculating but it's not like other S-E games haven't been coming out too. Is this tolerable for everyone or should we maybe be looking at splitting up the club back into FF and KH separately? /flinging idea

@Ultimania
Gah, I hate this decision they made so much, too. I mean, why even bother with a Final Mix and a Secret Ending (which is totally the point of the Final Mix, aside from more BBS goodness) if you're not going to take it seriously? I really wish Nomura was just kidding with his wry laughs and all. D:
The laughs are always what get me, haha. ;_; I know it's just to make it loose and not so serious sounding but it also sounds like he's just brushing it off, aww.
I always thought Master Xehanort put a little of himself into Ven's darkness, but who knows, maybe Ven had a really dark past. If MX deed put his seed in Vanitas (Oh God that sounds so wrong) then maybe we'll be seeing him as one of the thirteen darknesses or something. Why does MX remind me so much of Voldemort?
spoilers for: KH3D
I'm pretty sure Vanitas will be one of the 13 Darknesses somehow. I mean, he pretty much literally is darkness and I can't see MX passing him up. Who knows, maybe we'll find out that MK managed to extract Vanitas from Sora (assuming Vanitas became a part of him too? I was under the assumption he did) while Sora was asleep in his grasp so he could show up again.

And he reminds you of Voldemort because YMX almost literally splits off his soul every time he does that time travel thing and there are like 20 versions of him right now that just won't die. XD;
@DiZ, Nami, Lea etc.
Yeah I hated DiZ after what he did to Roxas and Namine. I thought he was awesome in CoM but yeah, KHII ruined him. Namine was really one of my favourite characters, she arguably had more development than Kairi. But yeah, I did find it off when she started being this ghostly presence for Roxas and everyone else in KHII.
Goodness, I just watched that scene Sakura described now and I just wanted to get Sora out of there, gah. And the ending was really awkward but funny all the same. I wish they gave Kairi more of a role in the game, though! D: But yeah, in the ending Sora was still really happy-go-lucky which was odd, but I loved how he appeared when he looked into the distance as he set-off on his own, like he was all grown up like never before or something. And whoa, I just realized how creepy Lea was in that scene.
Namine just had more to do in the games than Kairi, so she got more development by default. :( It kinda sucks since I like Kairi a lot too but
spoilers for: KH3D
Hopefully she'll get something to do in KH3! Now that I think about it, maybe they only tossed her in as a Keyblade Wielder so that they could use her as the tutorial or something. XD; Still okay with it!

Yeah, Lea's creepy very nearly overpowered Sora's weirdness in that scene. @_@ It's a really strange ending, lmao. I would hate to wake up to that! Poor Riku.
@Ven x Nami
Lightning's headcanon is pretty darn awesome, haha. And I'd be okay with a Ven x Namine ship because the poor girl seems to have no chance to be with Sora (even though she obviously likes Sora more than she's supposed to judging CoM, yes Namine from KHII is not valid because it doesn't feel right when she's all sweet with Roxas at all), and it would make good history of her finding out about Ventus, Terra and Aqua.
She knew from the Re:Coded ending remember? I don't think it's just DiZ ordering her to tell Sora as her Data self, I think she actually heard about it from Ven in CO.
I would've been fine with Roxas/Namine if they'd done something with them in Days. They had the chance to make it so they met somehow and it would help explain why they suddenly decide to be friends at the end of KH2 and it'd explain their connection but they didn't do that so they had no connection which is why it was disappointing. :(

spoilers for: re:coded, BBS
This is true! I know she had to have found something about TAV locked away in Sora's heart. It would be kind of adorable if she found out from Ven. Although, if that's the case, how'd she know about Terra and Aqua? o_O; Their fates were decied after Ven fell asleep, mostly. Ven might have some idea that Aqua saved him and set him to rest in what became C.O. but it was after she left him that she found Terranort and fell into the Darkness trying to save him. Hmm.

She supposedly has power over people who are close to Sora, too, so maybe the original trio counted with that? She was able to erase the memory/idea of Sora from mostly everyone's head until Sora came back, right? Maybe that extended to absolutely everyone who'd come in contact with him. I think Aqua considered passing on the Keyblade to Sora for a moment until she realized that Terra had already done that to Riku so maybe that left enough of an impression that Namine had access to her heart/memories and could piece things together from there? But then you'd think she (and DiZ?) would have tried to get that message across in a better way than just hacking extra data into Jiminy's paper-journal. (Square-Enix, I don't think diaries work the way you think they work.) Instead they left a cryptic message on the last page that explains nothing and the true meaning was only found after making data!Sora play through a crappy game. >:O

Then again, BBS just added all sorts of plotholes-that-when-you-thing-about-them-makes-everyone-seem-like-a-jerk. 'Cause Mickey and Yen Sid would've known all about TAV too, and they never said a thing about them to Sora/Riku, lmao. ;_;
@KH3D Final Boss
I don't understand why the final boss was exactly a letdown when that fight was a complete 180 degree reversal of the Sora vs Riku fight except Ven's fighting style is used but! Sora's still in the armor isn't he? I guess it is Ven. It did look really awesome and epic, not disappointing at all. And Lightning describes it as really awesome.
spoilers for: 3DS. like. massive spoilers. all the end-game bosses. XD
It's hard to describe until you play it.

As with most KH games, once you hit the last world, everything starts going crazy and plot lines you didn't even know were a thing start wrapping up and the inevitable "WTF IS GOING ON???" begins. Sora wanders through the City That Never Was and has to take on Xemnas. Right after the fight, they drop him off to sleep "for good" and it's all up to Riku. Riku starts off in the Castle That Never Was and fights his way up it and takes on Ansem, only to find out that he was in Sora's dream the whole time. (I think this was how that part went?) From there, he wakes up back in the City That Never Was an has to make his way to the Castle again. Once he gets there, Sora's about to be turned into a mindless puppet of darkness. Riku has to put an end to YMX before MX can revive and do the deed. There, you get the awesome YMX/MF fight with time travel and series throwbacks and it's just epic. The scene after it has all the epic that a closing scene in KH should, too. Sora's about to die, Lea shows up and saves the day, and it's Riku and Mickey and Lea and Donald and Goofy against the bad guys and you're sitting there going "WOW THIS IS A REALLY SATISFYING ENDING". The YMX fight is pretty tough and frustrating (as was the Ansem fight for me, haha, my Riku was so underlevelled ;_;) so now you're just glad it's over so you can watch the ending go by.

...and then it's not over. You get out of there and Sora's still sleeping. So Riku has to dive into him to wake him up and... wait. W-why are we fighting Ven? Why is he controlled by darkness? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN TO HIM? NO. BAD. BAD SERIES. The fight isn't too difficult but it's not exactly a walk in the park either. :( It just felt very out of place. I look back on it now and like the idea of it, and I feel it was appropriate story-wise and all, but gameplay-wise it was kind of anti-climatic and tacked on. So that's where all the complaints come from, I think. It just... after the epicness of the fights up to this point, it sort of made all of them lose a bit of importance just because there were so many. Or something.
@Re:Coded and KH soundtrack
I thought Re:Coded was decent for its well-designed gameplay. Just not on-par with the rest of the series. But yeah, that's true the secret ending is basically useless now. And BBS really is a great game, I absolutely loved its Dearly Beloved too (I just listen to it randomly and just feel all dreamy and in the KH mood). Yeah, btw Sakura if you're looking for a final boss theme with the stuff you wanted more in the spoiler, look no further than the soundtrack for Ven's final boss in BBS. Some awesome music right there.


I actually want them to just announce either that game or KHIII already since it's taking such a long time for them to release even just a glimpse of the game. And yes it was announced alongside FFXIII, and that makes me wonder, aren't the Osaka teams making FF Versus XIII and KHIII one and the same?
Really? I... I didn't think Re:Coded had good gameplay at all. XD; They took the command system from BBS so I went in expecting great things but it didn't port very well to the DS and I found the controls difficult and I just... I dunno. I wasn't very good at it, and I just chalked it up to bad controls/gameplay because I'm never not good at a KH game. But I also pretty much advised all my friends to not bother with the game unless they "needed" to play it, so I don't really know anyone who could confirm my assumption. XD; That game made me so worried about KH3D because it uses the command system too but they made it all better for 3D.

But yeah, you are literally the only person I know who actually liked (and not just "tolerated" Re:Coded). XD;

I think the Osaka team is the BBS team which did 3D and is probably working on other stuff. They've renamed all the teams since they started work on FF13VS so I don't even know what's up anymore, but I know whichever team previously worked on KH is working exclusively on VS now. So one would think they'd be the same team.

I think Osaka might be mostly handheld games? Honestly, though, if they'd just get a freakin' move on with KH and let the Osaka team handle the numbered sequel, I'd be absolutely okay with it. >:|
I actually tried multiple quotes but the post had more quotes than my replies so I made it the way it is now instead. XD
It actually might've been easier to read that way but I already started with quotes so... /continues D8
Watch KH3D Final Mix come out next year XD
This would not surprise me at all. They also said they weren't making a BBSFM. It came out one year later.

Gaaaah I'm still getting mental images of Flustered!Ven and it is killing my heart KILLING IT I SAY -dies-
"Ven, I thought you were supposed to get all the colours before going back to start. You're missing green though..."
"Uhhhh there's this... special rule, where if you go Red, Blue and Yellow in that order, you don't have to go get Green. You just get... uhhhh... less points. Yeah."

spoilers for: uhh... Days and BBS
...and since everyone in Sora's heart is gullible as heck, they would all nod, think it made lots of sense, and that would be the new rule.
How dare you yell at Ven, MX I will break your nose and arms and ribs and whatever else occurs to me. And yeah, he wouldn't fight the Neoshadows and they all jumped on him and knocked him out and this is when the cutscene we discussed earlier takes place (Creation of Vanitas, blank-eyes Ven) and ICK OLD MAN DARKNESS SDLFKSDFJL. and now I'm sort of wondering if Vanitas is going to be one of the new Nortys, asdfjkl. I don't see how this could happen unless Vanitas is somehow separated from Ven, though.ohgod you shouldn't have DON'T MIX THE TWO TOGETHER IT ONLY COMPLICATES MATTERS
spoilers for: BBS
Don't forget that he also took off Ven's shirt around the time of blank-eyes Ven when he went to go dump him in Destiny Islands! :D I... I still never did figure out why that was necessary. (And I often forget about it because if you select a new game and skip the tutorial, I think it skips that scene too. Nooothing can top the sheer confusion when I started up the game for the first time and suddenly there was an Organization member with a shirtless dead-looking Roxas in DI. It was so WTF-worthy.)
Ohgod he was. I was going "CHILD ABUSE! CHILD ABUSE! CALL CHILDREN'S SERVICES PLEASE" but yeah. Marluxia sort of did the same thing but he's a bad guy I guess it is part of his character to be sadistic and mean and yeah so it's amazing that someone who is apparently a "good guy" would treat someone like that. jesus. Diz I am disappoint. and wasn't Data-Namine all-knowing as well? Like she knew about Xion and the BbS trio, didn't she? I like Riku, except in KHI, for obvious reasons. He's angsty in CoM/Days all the way up to the end of KHII but I think he really improved in Dream Drop Distance so I was proud of him okay
Marluxia had no heart and I'm of the opinion he didn't try very hard to get it back or pretend he did have one or anything like that. So when he was using Namine, he didn't feel bad or good about it, he just used her like a tool because she was the easiest way to get what he wanted. That's not okay, but DiZ had a heart and feelings and would have had to look at Namine every time he gave her orders and go "oh wow, I am abusing this girl who looks younger than 14; but if I remind myself she has no heart, it's TOTALLY OKAY." So I think that makes it a lot worse. (Honestly, in my last post, I think I completely forgot about the fact that Marluxia had no heart when I was trying to justify why I didn't mind his actions but hated DiZ's. Wooow. /fail XD)

spoilers for: KH3D
I mean, to be fair, 3D kind of steps all over the original definition of a Nobody so they kind of built up hearts in the end anyway but I still feel like Marluxia never bothered making connections to people and doing the whole "caring" thing to get one.

Anyway! Yeah I hated Riku in KH1, didn't like him in COM (probably for his horrible gameplay--MAKE YOUR OWN DECK, CHILD, STOP USING RANDOM CARDS), and thought he was an idiot in KH2. As a rule, I really do not like angsty characters, so he's always just bugged me. I... I warmed up to him a lot in KH3D, though. :( He wasn't angsty and he was legitimately making up for his mistakes and he succeeded and went above and beyond in capability and...

...>_<; By the end of it, I think I didn't mind him much at all. I mean, he'll still probably never be anywhere near my favourite characters list, but I got a lot of development at the end of KH2 to now and he's become a lot more likeable. (Guys this is kind of a big step for me, to admit that I don't hate Riku anymore. Wow.)
I often call both KH3D and Re:coded "Soriku: The Game". Because they both really are lol. And that hug that hug I was loling so hard and then there was the part where Riku was trying to wake Sora up and he grabbed his hand and Sora heard Riku in his dream and I was like "I CAN HEAR THE CRIES OF THE FANGIRLS" and I sort of started shipping them after KH3D please don't judge me I COULDN'T HELP IT XD;

Yep, creeper is Lea's default state of being XD
spoilers for: KH3D
Y-yeah. I can see that. (Although omg I don't even remember Riku in Re:Coded LMAO. I was listing the games I disliked him in above and went "wait, wasn't he in Re:Coded? But I only remember Sora. Oh well.") Pretty much any time something happened in either Sora or Riku's worlds during the game that affected the other person's version, they'd get all dreamy-eyed and look up toward the heavens with trust and joy and friendship in their eyes and I was just like "omg stop that please". XD; I didn't come out of the game shipping it, but I guess coming out of the game not hating Riku was a big enough step for me! Maybe by the next one. :P
Here you go, dear~ (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5865098/1/Whispers_of_the_Heart) I really really like it, it's fluffy and it makes my heart go doki doki so it's legit XD and now I'm off to Tumblr to FIND ALL THE VEN/NAMI FANART WHEEEEE~ don't worry hun I ship everything too as of KH3D lol
"No you're not! Everyone's a somebody. His tone turned indignant, as if he was insulted by how little she thought of herself." OH MY GOD. ;_; HE WOULD. HE WOULD BE LIKE IN TEARS AND THEN THINK SOMEONE ELSE WAS SAD AND JUMP TO COMFORT THEM. dying. i definitely ship this now. so hard. (And then later "Call me Ven!"... that's our wifi password in this house hahaha. XD;)
Well, considering my INTENSE HATRED for anything Xehanort-related and my love and feels for Ven, I would probably like Ven'sArmor!Sora more, entirely because it's Ven's armor XD. On the other hand, though, DAT DARK IMPETUS REMIX. WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS MY LOVE FOR THOSE STRINGS asdfjkl. and I suppose they didn't want to put two tough bosses right in a row, so they toned down Ven'sArmor!Sora a bit (lol poor Sora doesn't know how to fight backhand XD) So since Ven is obviously my favorite and I have over 9000 files for him, I will definitely recognize his attacks? Because as I've previously mentioned, low quality cutscenes are the devil and I really couldn't see what he was doing D8 NOOOOOOO AQUA WILL NEVER GIVE IN TO DARKNESS. Maybe a possessed!Aqua fight? Aquanort? XEHANORTTTTTTTTT D:<

spoilers for: KH3D, BBS
You will definitely recognize his attacks, I think. XD; If I could pick them out here and there with minimal Ven playtime, you will be able to.

To be fair, she considered it for a moment until Terra and Ven were somehow like "NOPE, TACKY FRIENDSHIP GESTURE" with their keyblades. XD; I think I'd be equally sad with a posessed!Aqua though. Maybe MX will make use of her armour which should still be in the Chamber of Repose? It's obvious by now that the Keyblade Armour definitely retains a fair bit of the fighting patterns of the people who used it, even if they aren't there. (Terra's Armour was still able to fight Sora in KH2FM, presumably, long after Terranort disappeared from the area.) So if it could be reanimated, it could definitely show up as a boss fight or something. I kind of want this to happen now. :D That would be so fun.
Yesssss this is entirely me. MUST HAVE COMPLETE COLLECTION. (...I am going to assume getting an english 3DS is out of the question? in that case yeah I would just borrow it from someone else. Butbut then you won't own it for yourself and asdfjkl THAT CAN'T HAPPEN DX)
...well. The Japanese one was like $300. x_X; I don't think I can justify getting an English one at all this year. I also don't mind just playing the Japanese version of KH3D. I can always pick up the English one sometime way down the road when it's on sale and my roommates are long done with the 3DS. I'm really hoping what little interactivity there is in 3D works between JP and English this time, but I somewhat doubt that since Days and BBS never played nice together between languages. ;_;' So I guess I'd be missing out on that sort of thing if I don't buy my own console but... not any time soon.
Xemnas' is fantastic, and the boss music from the Tron:Legacy world is spectacular but all of them need moar Ven's Theme or at least Ven'sArmor!Sora does because I mean come on humor the Ven fangirl just a bit please ;_;
spoilers for: KH3D
Omg, I'd forgotten about the boss music from Tron. Seriously, I set down the 3DS when the Sora vs Tron fight started and just listened to it and I've only done that a few times in the series. (I did it again later in the game during the normal battle music of TWTNW. Maaan Deep Dive is AWESOME. *u* It mixes up all the Organization themes with the original Deep Drive track. It's probably my second-favourite song on the OST after the Impetus remixes.
So much massive wall of text.

To many spoilers Im going to play these games now so cant just spoil myself with you two fangirling!
Sorry 'bout that. 8D I usually contain myself. (God I'm like halfway through this post and it's taken me an hour or more to write. We should probably slow down a bit. XD)

H-hopefully the spoilers are fairly well contained. Looks like we've started tossing anything important after KH2 in spoiler tags so hopefully that should do it? :D
Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?

Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??
I'm pretty sure this has come up in an interview before, now that I think about it. The consensus might have been that Nomura was somewhat interested but Disney didn't seem overly interested? :( I should see if I can look this up. I'd like it if only because it's more canon for me to absorb, but I think I'd also feel a bit gypped if there were awesome fight scenes in it or something and I couldn't be doing them myself. XD;
Heh I don't mind that much. I've posted a fair share of walls of text myself.
So yeah, just continue on fangirling, this is the SE Fan Club after all.
They act as pretty interesting reads, too.
I like the walls of text! It's so much fun to discuss this kind of thing and my roommates are gone for the summer and my brother hasn't played anything after KH2 so I need somewhere to vent my theories and speculation. 83

I'm glad. I've been a little worried that I'm just rambling and everyone's rolling their eyes and putting up with me because red-name, lmfao. 8(
Both MX incarnations are creepy in their own ways, Geezernort from being a geezer and messing with young childrens' heads, and YMX from all that time travel and mindblowing illusions. Yeah I was expecting someone to show up and save him, too, but at least Ven attempted to save him before he completely fell into darkness. Yes, that secret ending actually gave me hope for Kairi even though I was convinced back then that giving her a Keyblade was a weird idea. But I'm okay with it now. Creeper Lea, haha. And you'd think he already had enough from being with Roxas and Xion during Days.
spoilers for: KH3D, Days
At the point where Sora's in danger, I don't think anyone but Riku even knew where he was, really. YMX & Co kept everything so under wraps until the very end that I was a little impressed that Mickey and everyone even managed to show up in time for anything at all.

Lea will never be satisfied until he has creeped all the children Keyblade users. Ven will wake up from his slumber--BAM. Lea, standing over him. Aqua will find her way out of the darkness--BAM. Lea, standing in the corner & watching her. ALWAYS.
A Kingdom Hearts movie a la Advent Children would actually be pretty awesome, but as far as chances go, there's only a slim chance of it actually happening. Sure Disney helping out Square-Enix would be a plus but it's going to be quite a high-budget movie, getting together all these stars to voice a full hour-length movie would prove to be quite a daunting task for them. I don't think KH has enough of an audience for their standards, either. I wish they'd still think of turning this idea into a reality though! It would just change my life.
I don't think voice actors would really be difficult to get. Disney is kind of ace at that, honestly. Most of the people they hire (I say most because WTF Terra and Aqua's voices in English ) are pretty well known in the industry or they've been doing acting and voice acting for Disney for ages in some way. :B If you think about it, pulling together all the voices from the cutscenes throughout a game give you something like 6 hours, so an hour or two would be nothing. XD;

I think the difficult part would be coming up with a release that didn't make the Disney execs nervous. I heard the reason Mickey was only in one or two scenes in KH1 was because they didn't want the game to be a cash crab that only wanted to use Mickey's fame to get people to play it. (Mickey wasn't allowed to be used in TV commercials for it or anything for that reason, either.) But games are fairly different from films/DVDs. :x Disney makes a lot of lame spinoffs in the direct-to-DVD market and making something KH-based would probably have some Disney characters in it meaning random parents would probably buy it just seeing the characters and the Disney logo so... they'd have to be a lot more careful with how it was presented than they would be for a game. I think.
Ah, that's hard. For the most part, getting the system was the most difficult part of playing the series. I had to help my brother save up money so we could both play. So much worth it, though.
I got my PSP a few years before BBS came out, so I could play Crisis Core, but the main reason I got one in advance was for BBS. If BBS had never come out, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the PSP. (I have quite a few friends who bought their PSPs just for BBS and haven't touched them since. XD)
Yeah, I actually meant to say full [I]hours-length movie but it sounded weird. Hahaha. But yes it would be nothing short of spectacular, and they better make the numbered games on par with FFXIII in the graphics department. They have well-known English voice actors for the job. Not to mention the pay for each and every person on the team who would render all the cutscenes, the technology and equipment they'll need, the right marketing, the money they'll give the higher-ups from both Disney and SE, and a huge wad of cash for Nomura.
Well, honestly, KH3D already looks really amazing. o.o Seriously, the characters in the Tron world were so realistic. The nice thing about KH's inherent cartoon-y style is that it's fairly easy to make it look good on any platform because they can go with stylized worlds over realism which is what the FFs have turned towards. So I feel like any future projects they do won't really be hindered by graphics or anything like that. It'll look good even if it ends up on a less powerful console.
I JOIN PLZ????

I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for
HI I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN FOREVER WELCOME BACK :D

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oh my god that took so long to write. /collapses on couch ;_;

Sakura Rain
May 6th, 2012, 06:21 PM
I JOIN PLZ????

I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY ONEE-CHAN

Gonna steal your idea, Lightning. because Roku-nee will kill me dead if I spoil anything for her ;;

So much massive wall of text.
To many spoilers Im going to play these games now so cant just spoil myself with you two fangirling!


Walls of text are fantastic okay and sorry hun. VEN IS JUST OUR FAVORITE, OKAY

Sakura/everyone what would you (guys) think of a Kingdom Hearts movie?

Lightning already agreed it would be amazing but you are the other fangirl. Also do you (guys) think its got a good possibility of happening considering the disney partnering of KH??

um my only condition for a KH movie is it has to have Ven in it. And I think whoever would do the movie would have to pay sooooo muchhhhh moneeeeey omg to Disney for the use of their characters. So it'd have to be one of the bigger studios. So if they have the money and put Ven in it I say AWESOME~

Heh I don't mind that much. I've posted a fair share of walls of text myself.
So yeah, just continue on fangirling, this is the SE Fan Club after all.
They act as pretty interesting reads, too.

erm I think we've turned it into the "Ven is Awesome" fanclub ;;

Both MX incarnations are creepy in their own ways, Geezernort from being a geezer and messing with young childrens' heads, and YMX from all that time travel and mindblowing illusions. Yeah I was expecting someone to show up and save him, too, but at least Ven attempted to save him before he completely fell into darkness. Yes, that secret ending actually gave me hope for Kairi even though I was convinced back then that giving her a Keyblade was a weird idea. But I'm okay with it now. Creeper Lea, haha. And you'd think he already had enough from being with Roxas and Xion during Days.

spoilers for: KH3D and days i guess:
ohgod I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT THAT HE WAS GOING TO MURDER SORA, OKAY even though this game is half-Disney and as such it would never happen BUT STILL. and yesyes VEN YOU ARE TOO SWEET. erm so if Ven hadn't gave Sora his armor what exactly would've happened because I am imagining horrible things omg. And as for the Kairi thing, I was convinced that it was a one-time deal but then I saw the keyblade in bbs and I was like "nooooope." And Leaaaaaaaaa. He's used to carrying/watching unconscious kids, lol.

"Ven, I thought you were supposed to get all the colours before going back to start. You're missing green though..."
"Uhhhh there's this... special rule, where if you go Red, Blue and Yellow in that order, you don't have to go get Green. You just get... uhhhh... less points. Yeah."

VEN YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ASDFJKL didn't your master teach you not to lie? Oh of course he didn't 'cause he's a BIG STUPID

spoilers for: BBS

Don't forget that he also took off Ven's shirt around the time of blank-eyes Ven when he went to go dump him in Destiny Islands! :D I... I still never did figure out why that was necessary. (And I often forget about it because if you select a new game and skip the tutorial, I think it skips that scene too. Nooothing can top the sheer confusion when I started up the game for the first time and suddenly there was an Organization member with a shirtless dead-looking Roxas in DI. It was so WTF-worthy.)

spoilers for: BbS, of course

WAS THAT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY MX. JESUS. WHY EXACTLY DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN UNDERAGE BOY'S SHIRT OFF? WAS IT TO MAXIMIZE YOUR CREEPINESS? it does skip that and I'm grateful for it because blank-eyes Ven and MX together give me all kinds of RAGE OMG

Marluxia had no heart and I'm of the opinion he didn't try very hard to get it back or pretend he did have one or anything like that. So when he was using Namine, he didn't feel bad or good about it, he just used her like a tool because she was the easiest way to get what he wanted. That's not okay, but DiZ had a heart and feelings and would have had to look at Namine every time he gave her orders and go "oh wow, I am abusing this girl who looks younger than 14; but if I remind myself she has no heart, it's TOTALLY OKAY." So I think that makes it a lot worse. (Honestly, in my last post, I think I completely forgot about the fact that Marluxia had no heart when I was trying to justify why I didn't mind his actions but hated DiZ's. Wooow. /fail XD)

Omg i know. He acted pretty much like a Nobody and in fact the first time I played KHII do I have to spoiler-tag KHII stuff? I don't think so so I won't I thought he was one. and then at the end of the game he's ansem and I was like "butbutbut YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON ;___;" hun you just love dat flower scythe don't you XD

spoilers for: KH3D

Y-yeah. I can see that. (Although omg I don't even remember Riku in Re:Coded LMAO. I was listing the games I disliked him in above and went "wait, wasn't he in Re:Coded? But I only remember Sora. Oh well.") Pretty much any time something happened in either Sora or Riku's worlds during the game that affected the other person's version, they'd get all dreamy-eyed and look up toward the heavens with trust and joy and friendship in their eyes and I was just like "omg stop that please". XD; I didn't come out of the game shipping it, but I guess coming out of the game not hating Riku was a big enough step for me! Maybe by the next one. :P

spoilers for: KH3D, re:coded

He was in fact in re:coded as I was watching my best friend play it last night but idk the journal took riku's form so idk if it actually counts as riku. And yeah like the last half of re:coded turns soriku lol. omg i was like "BOYS. STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR I AM GOING TO SHIP YOU" but they didn't so I did D; KH3D is definitely Riku's best game, imo. At least he's not whiny anymore. butbutbut I sort of loved him even when he was whiny don't judge me D; He's MASTER RIKU <3

"No you're not! Everyone's a somebody. His tone turned indignant, as if he was insulted by how little she thought of herself." OH MY GOD. ;_; HE WOULD. HE WOULD BE LIKE IN TEARS AND THEN THINK SOMEONE ELSE WAS SAD AND JUMP TO COMFORT THEM. dying. i definitely ship this now. so hard. (And then later "Call me Ven!"... that's our wifi password in this house hahaha. XD;)

omg i know this fanfic has a completely in character and heartbreakingly adorable Ven and that makes me so happy omg. HE HATES IT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAD BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST. omg i was dying too the first time I read it i was like "a;klgjdslfjdslhglsdkfjhskldgjfd;lg YOU SWEETHEART" VenxNami 3rd OTP behind Soriku and Akuroku I CAN'T HELP IT THEY BOTH MAKE ME HAVE ALL THE FEELINGS and this is saying something, as I don't like namine too much outside of shipping her with Ven omg

spoilers for: KH3D, BBS

You will definitely recognize his attacks, I think. XD; If I could pick them out here and there with minimal Ven playtime, you will be able to.

To be fair, she considered it for a moment until Terra and Ven were somehow like "NOPE, TACKY FRIENDSHIP GESTURE" with their keyblades. XD; I think I'd be equally sad with a posessed!Aqua though. Maybe MX will make use of her armour which should still be in the Chamber of Repose? It's obvious by now that the Keyblade Armour definitely retains a fair bit of the fighting patterns of the people who used it, even if they aren't there. (Terra's Armour was still able to fight Sora in KH2FM, presumably, long after Terranort disappeared from the area.) So if it could be reanimated, it could definitely show up as a boss fight or something. I kind of want this to happen now. :D That would be so fun.

spoilers for: KH3D, BbS

But you know I'm probably going to feel bad about beating him up. I felt bad about beating up Venitas and Vanitas was the one in control and I hate Vanitas but it was Ven's body but sdfkjlsd. I CAN'T RATIONALIZE MY THOUGHTS OKAY. If he can find her armor, perhaps. Wasn't Xemnas the only one who knew where the Chamber of Repose is? Though if MX is reformed, does that mean he got Ansem: SoD's and Xemnas's memories? Idk this is confusing. and apparently Nomura said that the Lingering Sentiment fight in KHII is non-canon. REALLY BECAUSE IF SORA REMEMBERED IT THAT MIGHT SOLVE A FEW PROBLEMS. I think Yen Sid and Mickey are still clueless about Terra's whereabouts, aren't they? though idk if either of them would recognize the armor since I'm fairly certain that Mickey never even met Terra D; AQUA'S ARMOR FIGHT I WANT THIS TO BECOME A THING

...well. The Japanese one was like $300. x_X; I don't think I can justify getting an English one at all this year. I also don't mind just playing the Japanese version of KH3D. I can always pick up the English one sometime way down the road when it's on sale and my roommates are long done with the 3DS. I'm really hoping what little interactivity there is in 3D works between JP and English this time, but I somewhat doubt that since Days and BBS never played nice together between languages. ;_;' So I guess I'd be missing out on that sort of thing if I don't buy my own console but... not any time soon.

I bet it won't though, since apparently PLAYING WITH PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES IS BAD. BAAAAAAAAAD. DX

spoilers for: KH3D


Omg, I'd forgotten about the boss music from Tron. Seriously, I set down the 3DS when the Sora vs Tron fight started and just listened to it and I've only done that a few times in the series. (I did it again later in the game during the normal battle music of TWTNW. Maaan Deep Dive is AWESOME. *u* It mixes up all the Organization themes with the original Deep Drive track. It's probably my second-favourite song on the OST after the Impetus remixes.

spoilers for: KH3D

It is in fact called "Rinzler Recompiled" and I thought it was epic and heartbreaking at the same time omg. Poor Sora. asdfjkl DEEP DIVE ASDFJKL SPECTACULAR. Of course, Ven'sArmor!Sora boss music is first for me, then YMX, then Ansem/Xemnas sort of tie for third, and then Rinzler Recompiled. THIS MUSIC IS SPECTACULAR

We should probably slow down a bit. XD

maybe? idk I don't want everyone mad at me since they can't complain at you because ~red name omg~ ;; i cannot contain my ven feeels~

JESUS THIS TOOK FOREVERRRRRRRRRRR. NEED PLACE TO DIE

CarefulWetPaint
May 6th, 2012, 06:27 PM
@Cid
Yeah its difficult I may just find a slightly less legal way to play it.. dont judge.

They could just tie it all into the next kingdom hearts (console) games and have it as a bonus for say a collectors editions with the movie also purchasable as a seperate item. I think that would make it profitable and worth while for them to do it!

@Rokususa
You dont need to ask permission to join into the discussion. Just say youre joining and jump right into it so youre adding to the conversation as well as joining xD. More in line with the rules of the forum this way
So welcome and please jump right it! (Just label any spoilers for me so I dont kill the games for myself!) :P

@lightning
I went to quote your post and nearly died. :O So much writing!

But the movie thing, WHERE IS THIS INTERVIEW! You must find and deliver it to usme! I would love so much to see KH in a movie for the fight scenes Advent Children Spoiler
Cloud vs Sephiroth in Advent Children Complete fight scene, MY GOD!!!!
with the kingdom hearts characters, I've seen some cut scenes of KH fight scenes and they look awesomeeeee!! (would insert the gif if I could be bothered finding it.)


Also thanks heaps for labeling the spoilers now so I know not to let my curiosity ruin the games for me!

@Sakura
-You just ninja'd me >.>-
I wish there was something I could comment on in your post but its all spoilers of what I can't look at >.> :(. Just yours and Lightnings fangirling is so cute, especially how much you two are in love with Ven.

Cherrim
May 6th, 2012, 07:50 PM
erm I think we've turned it into the "Ven is Awesome" fanclub ;;
You put this in smalltext as if it's something to be ashamed of! :(
ohgod I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT THAT HE WAS GOING TO MURDER SORA, OKAY even though this game is half-Disney and as such it would never happen BUT STILL. and yesyes VEN YOU ARE TOO SWEET. erm so if Ven hadn't gave Sora his armor what exactly would've happened because I am imagining horrible things omg. And as for the Kairi thing, I was convinced that it was a one-time deal but then I saw the keyblade in bbs and I was like "nooooope." And Leaaaaaaaaa. He's used to carrying/watching unconscious kids, lol.
spoiler: KH3D, BBS
I think Sora just would've not woken up but... what would happen to the people in his heart? :( Would they be dropped into Oblivion too? That's depressing. Omg, imagine Aqua coming back and fixing Terra and all that and going to get Ven together like she said they would and then Ven just never wakes up. My heart. It is breaking.

Lea + unconscious kids just sounds like the worst case of babysitting ever.
VEN YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ASDFJKL didn't your master teach you not to lie? Oh of course he didn't 'cause he's a BIG STUPID
Well, if he did teach him, Terra probably untaught him. XD Ven looks up to him so much, he'd probably just do whatever Terra does and I can see Terra making stuff like that up all the time when caught doing something wrong. Ven, nooo. ;_; If you need a role model, pick Aqua. You don't wanna be like Terra.
spoilers for: BbS, of course
WAS THAT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY MX. JESUS. WHY EXACTLY DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN UNDERAGE BOY'S SHIRT OFF? WAS IT TO MAXIMIZE YOUR CREEPINESS? it does skip that and I'm grateful for it because blank-eyes Ven and MX together give me all kinds of RAGE OMG
spoiler: BBS
It's still creepy but I sometimes feel like if Ven had been completely stripped, maybe it would've made more sense? Like, I don't know, maybe physical additions (clothes, accessories) to the body disappear when your heart/body is split into two. Or maybe it only works when you aren't wearing something. Or maybe it's stylistic effects like when magical girls transform. But just the shirt? wtf!
Omg i know. He acted pretty much like a Nobody and in fact the first time I played KHII do I have to spoiler-tag KHII stuff? I don't think so so I won't I thought he was one. and then at the end of the game he's ansem and I was like "butbutbut YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON ;___;" hun you just love dat flower scythe don't you XD
Right? In the end, he was kind of the most heartless of all because he did have one but he was either too much of a jerk to listen to it or he ignored his common sense on purpose. >:( I feel like if it's been 6 years since KH2 came out (omg it's been 6 years since KH2 came out), anyone who hasn't played it shouldn't be complaining about spoilers. I'm not marking them. XD

It's the pink. It's definitely the pink.
spoilers for: KH3D, re:coded
He was in fact in re:coded as I was watching my best friend play it last night but idk the journal took riku's form so idk if it actually counts as riku. And yeah like the last half of re:coded turns soriku lol. omg i was like "BOYS. STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR I AM GOING TO SHIP YOU" but they didn't so I did D; KH3D is definitely Riku's best game, imo. At least he's not whiny anymore. butbutbut I sort of loved him even when he was whiny don't judge me D; He's MASTER RIKU <3
OH RIGHT. I definitely remember now. I like how that's like, the main plot of the whole game, and I totally forgot it. XD;

Whiny/emo types just aren't really my thing. :( I've aaalways been a fan moreso of the Sora kinds of protagonists and characters moreso than the Rikus. But now that I don't hate Riku, I kind of want to go back and play some of the other games and maybe possibly feel ~sympathy~ for him instead of rolling my eyes and laughing at the fact that he has no friends.

Okay, no, I'll still laugh at the fact that he has no friends (http://a.yfrog.com/img736/6965/va9qt.jpg). [/easily amused]

look, no spoilers!
omg i know this fanfic has a completely in character and heartbreakingly adorable Ven and that makes me so happy omg. HE HATES IT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAD BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST. omg i was dying too the first time I read it i was like "a;klgjdslfjdslhglsdkfjhskldgjfd;lg YOU SWEETHEART" VenxNami 3rd OTP behind Soriku and Akuroku I CAN'T HELP IT THEY BOTH MAKE ME HAVE ALL THE FEELINGS and this is saying something, as I don't like namine too much outside of shipping her with Ven omg
I only feel strongly about like... 3 pairings in KH (and one is strongly negative) so Ven/Namine is already pretty high up. XD; Might just be a phase (god knows I go through enough pairing phases) but still! Man, if I wasn't too lazy to go find my tablet or paper, I would be drawing all of the fanart... but alas. XD;

I love Namine and I love the idea of her having a friend or anyone who doesn't just associate with her because they have to, because she has answers they need, or because of who she's connected to. ;~; And Ven would be all of those things!
spoilers for: KH3D, BbS
But you know I'm probably going to feel bad about beating him up. I felt bad about beating up Venitas and Vanitas was the one in control and I hate Vanitas but it was Ven's body but sdfkjlsd. I CAN'T RATIONALIZE MY THOUGHTS OKAY. If he can find her armor, perhaps. Wasn't Xemnas the only one who knew where the Chamber of Repose is? Though if MX is reformed, does that mean he got Ansem: SoD's and Xemnas's memories? Idk this is confusing. and apparently Nomura said that the Lingering Sentiment fight in KHII is non-canon. REALLY BECAUSE IF SORA REMEMBERED IT THAT MIGHT SOLVE A FEW PROBLEMS. I think Yen Sid and Mickey are still clueless about Terra's whereabouts, aren't they? though idk if either of them would recognize the armor since I'm fairly certain that Mickey never even met Terra D; AQUA'S ARMOR FIGHT I WANT THIS TO BECOME A THING
spoiler: BBS, 3DS
No, Xigbar/Braig also knew where the chamber was. He talks to Zexion about it in a flashback scene in KH2FM right after we see Xemnas walk excrutiatingly slowly toward the room during the frantic events going on in Radiant Garden above him oh my god Xemnas I don't want to skip this cutscene but you are insufferable HURRY UP heading to it. In KH3D, even though Xigbar/Braig/whatever has kind of been taken over by Xehanort to be one of the darkness people, he still seems to have enough of his conscious mind that if Xemnas doesn't remember where the room is, he probably does. And really, if they're just looking for empty shells anyway, they can't do much better than a freaking Keyblade Master's armour if it retains muscle memory or some sort of equivalent.

I have no idea what memories MX has now. :s The fact that Ansem and Xemnas are both there throw me off something fierce. He can't really be them reformed if they're both still around unless something weird is going on like with Kairi/Sora (how they kept their bodies despite creating Nobodies [even though isn't that the whole point of Nobodies, to be the shell after the heart is gone??]). Is he an MX that sort of time leapt like YMX does? I don't knoooow.

NOMURA ALSO SAID THERE WOULD BE A BBS2 WHEN HE MADE BBSFM SO I DON'T TRUST A WORD OUT OF THAT MAN'S MOUTH. /sob. I know he said that about the fight, but it doesn't feel out of place and I think it still works just fine in canon. I mean, yeah, it's weird that Sora would be transported to that place from Disney Castle's basement but even that could probably be rationalized. (ie, that's where Mickey was standing when he used that teleport-y bouncy object and Disney Castle just kind of remembers that the place was important?) Sora's memory is spotty at best, so I can totally see him just not even recognizing Terra's Armour if he saw it again and he sooo did not remember to tell Mickey about fighting it in the first place. XD; He probably finished the fight after years of attempts, if he is controlled by me and then said "Well that was weird!" and went back to flying around in his gummi ship. While Ven yells in his head "OMG THAT WAS TERRA NO GO BACK WHAT HAPPENED TERRAAAAA".

Also, Yen Sid totally knows what happened to Terra. I wouldn't believe him for a second if he said he didn't. Terra went to his castle for advice or something during BBS and they all knew where Terra was during the events of the final fights in BBS. They knew Terra was there and that MX became a looot younger so it's probably safe to assume that Yen Sid at least put 2 + 2 together. He's just a MASSIVE DOUCHEBAG FOR NOT TELLING ANYONE ABOUT IT AND RAISING FLAGS EARLIER. god. ;_;
spoilers for: KH3D
It is in fact called "Rinzler Recompiled" and I thought it was epic and heartbreaking at the same time omg. Poor Sora. asdfjkl DEEP DIVE ASDFJKL SPECTACULAR. Of course, Ven'sArmor!Sora boss music is first for me, then YMX, then Ansem/Xemnas sort of tie for third, and then Rinzler Recompiled. THIS MUSIC IS SPECTACULAR
spoiler: KH3D
I never remember new!Tron's name. I have nooo idea what happened in that world since I never saw the original TRON and never saw the sequel either. XD; So I just kind of wandered through it, got confused during the scene when Xemnas sloooowwwwwllllyyyy tries to teach Sora about copy/pasting (seriously), and then got to that fight and went "ooh, pretty!" and then humiliated Tron Rinzler with RIKU SUX wondernyan Meow Wow, whatever the heck it's called.

Although omg Sora's insistence that Rinzler was good aww. ;~; Tron's personality was adorable in KH2 and I so wanted him to be good again in 3D. (I think he saved Sora from something in the end and like reached out for him and AWWW. ;_; I had no idea wtf was going on and it was still sad.)
@Cid
Yeah its difficult I may just find a slightly less legal way to play it.. dont judge.
I-I don't think there's an emulator for PSP. (But if you can get your hands on a system, even to borrow, I'm pretty sure [hypothetically, of course! :P] that PSP games are really easy to download and play on a hacked console and it is reversible.)
They could just tie it all into the next kingdom hearts (console) games and have it as a bonus for say a collectors editions with the movie also purchasable as a seperate item. I think that would make it profitable and worth while for them to do it!
Honestly, they could probably just package all the cutscenes from the games on a blu-ray and sell it to me and I'd buy it, no questions. XD; No need for new content, lmao.
@lightning
I went to quote your post and nearly died. :O So much writing!

But the movie thing, WHERE IS THIS INTERVIEW! You must find and deliver it to usme! I would love so much to see KH in a movie for the fight scenes Advent Children Spoiler
Cloud vs Sephiroth in Advent Children Complete fight scene, MY GOD!!!!
with the kingdom hearts characters, I've seen some cut scenes of KH fight scenes and they look awesomeeeee!! (would insert the gif if I could be bothered finding it.)
I know, right? You might wanna avoid using the quote button on my posts though. Kind of a lot of spoilers you'd have to scroll past to delete. XD;

Well, one of the things I like about KH (especially 3D, since it's great for this) is that all those ridiculous battles you see in movies and cutscenes in other games are playable in KH. With reaction commands and the realtime action battle system, most things are actually doable. I think the only reason they ever put fights in cutscenes in KH is when they can't fit an actual fight in the game for time/space restraints. (For example, they ran out of time in KH2 and had to turn the fight against Roxas in TWTNW into a cutscene but they made it playable in KH2FM.) I shall look for the interview, though! I think it was in one of the earlier Ultimanias.

I would also want a KH movie for the music. Omg, the music in Advent Children was so awesome, I'd love KH to get the same treatment. *u*
@Sakura
-You just ninja'd me >.>-
I wish there was something I could comment on in your post but its all spoilers of what I can't look at >.> :(. Just yours and Lightnings fangirling is so cute, especially how much you two are in love with Ven.
veeeeeen ♥

Sakura Rain
May 6th, 2012, 09:30 PM
@Sakura
-You just ninja'd me >.>-
I wish there was something I could comment on in your post but its all spoilers of what I can't look at >.> . Just yours and Lightnings fangirling is so cute, especially how much you two are in love with Ven.


asdfjkl. I'm sorrrryyyyy omg. What games have you played? If you haven't played BbS then yeah my posts are ~full of spoilers omg~ and Ven is just fantastic okay. He's just so cute and he loves his friends so much and HE DOES A LOT OF STUFF THAT I CAN'T SPEAK OF RIGHT NOW ASDFJKL but I just love him and Lightning is apparently the only other Ven fangirl on this planet because everyone seems to hate him and gah.

You put this in smalltext as if it's something to be ashamed of! :(

No, no! I just don't want everyone else to get fed up with us, lol. but veeeeeeeeen. he deserves to be talked about more ;;

spoiler: KH3D, BBS
I think Sora just would've not woken up but... what would happen to the people in his heart? :( Would they be dropped into Oblivion too? That's depressing. Omg, imagine Aqua coming back and fixing Terra and all that and going to get Ven together like she said they would and then Ven just never wakes up. My heart. It is breaking.

Lea + unconscious kids just sounds like the worst case of babysitting ever.

spoiler: KH3D, BbS, Days
ASDFJKL NO MY BABIES D; Well Roxas and Ven anyway not the biggest fan of Xion D; but asdfjkl no no no no no NO that can never happen VEN MUST WAKE UP BECAUSE EVERYONE NEEDS HIM ;; now my heart is breaking too. I can't imagine what Aqua would do ;_____; well technically it was Axel that carted around unconscious Roxas at CO and then unconscious Xion but he totally has nothing on Ven's babysitter skills <3

Well, if he did teach him, Terra probably untaught him. XD Ven looks up to him so much, he'd probably just do whatever Terra does and I can see Terra making stuff like that up all the time when caught doing something wrong. Ven, nooo. ;_; If you need a role model, pick Aqua. You don't wanna be like Terra.

Man, you've got some Terra issues going on up in here. IT'S BROMANCE, OKAY. but yeah terra would make stuff up on the spot and Aqua KNOWS ALL THE THINGS and she has ALL THE LOGICS so go ask her how to play ven XD

spoiler: BBS
It's still creepy but I sometimes feel like if Ven had been completely stripped, maybe it would've made more sense? Like, I don't know, maybe physical additions (clothes, accessories) to the body disappear when your heart/body is split into two. Or maybe it only works when you aren't wearing something. Or maybe it's stylistic effects like when magical girls transform. But just the shirt? wtf!

spoiler:KH3D, BbS
Or maybe MX just likes shirtless and/or unconscious underage boys. IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND WITH HIM, AM I RIGHT. With the way YMX was like "DON'T TOUCH THE NEW VESSEL |:<" or perhaps it was catering to the fangirls who wanted to see Naked!Roxas!Ven. I'm going to guess the latter XD

Right? In the end, he was kind of the most heartless of all because he did have one but he was either too much of a jerk to listen to it or he ignored his common sense on purpose. >:( I feel like if it's been 6 years since KH2 came out (omg it's been 6 years since KH2 came out), anyone who hasn't played it shouldn't be complaining about spoilers. I'm not marking them. XD

It's the pink. It's definitely the pink.

I think he was blinded by his desire for revenge, and since he was banished or whatever from Radiant Garden by Nobodies, he just generalizes all Nobodies as EVIL. Which to be fair most of them are.especially Xigbar for reasons but Roxas and Namine weren't evil so wtf Diz :/ Good. omg seriously six years six asdfjkl KHIII WHERE ARE YOU D:

You know, Marluxia was originally supposed to be a woman. But then it would have been two women trying to oppose a male-dominated organization and getting crushed for it in the end. Unfortunate implications~

OH RIGHT. I definitely remember now. I like how that's like, the main plot of the whole game, and I totally forgot it. XD;

Whiny/emo types just aren't really my thing. :( I've aaalways been a fan moreso of the Sora kinds of protagonists and characters moreso than the Rikus. But now that I don't hate Riku, I kind of want to go back and play some of the other games and maybe possibly feel ~sympathy~ for him instead of rolling my eyes and laughing at the fact that he has no friends.

Okay, no, I'll still laugh at the fact that he has no friends (http://a.yfrog.com/img736/6965/va9qt.jpg). [/easily amused]


I tend to dislike both kinds of characters but nooooooo not in KH :/ Sora and Riku are both my babies and Ven too of course and Terra will be if he gets his head screwed on correctly in KHIII. poor dear no one likes him ): AWWWWWWWWWW POOR RIKU XD


look, no spoilers!

I only feel strongly about like... 3 pairings in KH (and one is strongly negative) so Ven/Namine is already pretty high up. XD; Might just be a phase (god knows I go through enough pairing phases) but still! Man, if I wasn't too lazy to go find my tablet or paper, I would be drawing all of the fanart... but alas. XD;

I love Namine and I love the idea of her having a friend or anyone who doesn't just associate with her because they have to, because she has answers they need, or because of who she's connected to. ;~; And Ven would be all of those things!

hun, go find your tablet and draw some ven/nami or more babysitter!ven BECAUSE IT IS SPECTACULAR
Because Ven would be friends with anyone who's not Xehanort or Vanitas. BECAUSE HE'S JUST SO AWESOME SDLKFJSL.

spoiler: BBS, 3DS
No, Xigbar/Braig also knew where the chamber was. He talks to Zexion about it in a flashback scene in KH2FM right after we see Xemnas walk excrutiatingly slowly toward the room during the frantic events going on in Radiant Garden above him oh my god Xemnas I don't want to skip this cutscene but you are insufferable HURRY UP heading to it. In KH3D, even though Xigbar/Braig/whatever has kind of been taken over by Xehanort to be one of the darkness people, he still seems to have enough of his conscious mind that if Xemnas doesn't remember where the room is, he probably does. And really, if they're just looking for empty shells anyway, they can't do much better than a freaking Keyblade Master's armour if it retains muscle memory or some sort of equivalent.

spoiler: BbS, 3DS
Oh yeah, forgot about that. I tend to zone out whenever Xigbar/Braig starts speaking because he is a prick of the highest order omg. and omg omg I watched that cutscene on youtube and I was like "Wtf why did I just watch Xemnas walk for four hours? Jesus." and forgot about that too. Idk why he would just let himself become a Xehanort. YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK YOUR LIFE STRATEGY, THERE. he made me rage a little bit when he said the bit about the "drowned goldfish" to Sora asdfjkl I was like "GET SOME NEW MATERIAL MAN, YOU'VE BEEN USING THAT FOR TEN YEARS |:<" and then he got all up in Sora's face and I was like "YOU BEST STEP OFF, SON." and gaaaah. 3DS is one big rage-fest.


spoiler: BBS, 3DS
I have no idea what memories MX has now. :s The fact that Ansem and Xemnas are both there throw me off something fierce. He can't really be them reformed if they're both still around unless something weird is going on like with Kairi/Sora (how they kept their bodies despite creating Nobodies [even though isn't that the whole point of Nobodies, to be the shell after the heart is gone??]). Is he an MX that sort of time leapt like YMX does? I don't knoooow.


spoiler: BbS, 3DS
Looked around on some other forums and general consensus is that this MX was pulled out of his timeline by YMX, before MX possessed Terra. Ansem and Xemnas were also pulled out of their timelines before they were destroyed by Sora/Riku. Now idk if this is the actual truth but it makes more sense than "LOL OLD!MASTER XEHANORT IS BACK WITH NO EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER", don't you think? and general consensus is also that all these Xehanorts were sent back to their timelines at the end of the game with no memory of what had happened. So that explains away the mass vanishing of the Xehanorts after Lea is a complete and utter boss and swoops in to save Sora.


spoiler:BBS
NOMURA ALSO SAID THERE WOULD BE A BBS2 WHEN HE MADE BBSFM SO I DON'T TRUST A WORD OUT OF THAT MAN'S MOUTH. /sob. I know he said that about the fight, but it doesn't feel out of place and I think it still works just fine in canon. I mean, yeah, it's weird that Sora would be transported to that place from Disney Castle's basement but even that could probably be rationalized. (ie, that's where Mickey was standing when he used that teleport-y bouncy object and Disney Castle just kind of remembers that the place was important?) Sora's memory is spotty at best, so I can totally see him just not even recognizing Terra's Armour if he saw it again and he sooo did not remember to tell Mickey about fighting it in the first place. XD; He probably finished the fight after years of attempts, if he is controlled by me and then said "Well that was weird!" and went back to flying around in his gummi ship. While Ven yells in his head "OMG THAT WAS TERRA NO GO
BACK WHAT HAPPENED TERRAAAAA".

spoiler:BbS
NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I think that man is a compulsive liar ;_; yeah I never saw anything wrong with it either. You just need to fill in a couple of blanks (ie, the Disney Castle thing) I mean really. Sora sweetie, when you are attacked by a strange creature of armor who confuses you for Riku and then Xehanort of all people, you need to tell someone knowledgeable about this. The Ven thing, though, I'm not sure if Ven was completely conscious at this point. Like he was probably close to being somewhat conscious, but he wasn't yet. lol really? The fight always looked hard but alas no KHIIFM for me so I wouldn't know from experience D; SPEAKING OF LINGERING SENTIMENT~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu_JzszPfa8&feature=related) this is seriously well-done and you need to watch it all the way through


spoiler:BBS
Also, Yen Sid totally knows what happened to Terra. I wouldn't believe him for a second if he said he didn't. Terra went to his castle for advice or something during BBS and they all knew where Terra was during the events of the final fights in BBS. They knew Terra was there and that MX became a looot younger so it's probably safe to assume that Yen Sid at least put 2 + 2 together. He's just a MASSIVE DOUCHEBAG FOR NOT TELLING ANYONE ABOUT IT AND RAISING FLAGS EARLIER. god. ;_;


spoiler:BbS
Omg seriously? You think so? Well, in that case YEN SID I AM DISAPPOINT. I mean how dare you do that Terra deserves to be saved like everyone else you big stupid. what is it with all these Keyblade Masters being big stupids. Except for Aqua of course <3

spoiler: KH3D
I never remember new!Tron's name. I have nooo idea what happened in that world since I never saw the original TRON and never saw the sequel either. XD; So I just kind of wandered through it, got confused during the scene when Xemnas sloooowwwwwllllyyyy tries to teach Sora about copy/pasting (seriously), and then got to that fight and went "ooh, pretty!" and then humiliated Tron Rinzler with RIKU SUX wondernyan Meow Wow, whatever the heck it's called. Although omg Sora's insistence that Rinzler was good aww. ;~; Tron's personality was adorable in KH2 and I so wanted him to be good again in 3D. (I think he saved Sora from something in the end and like reached out for him and AWWW. ;_; I had no idea wtf was going on and it was still sad.)

spoiler: KH3D

Well, I saw the sequel why no not because of Space Paranoids why do you ask and I already knew who Rinzler was and then it came out that the Grid was going to be in 3D and I was like "uh-oh. UH-OH." copy/pasting whaaaaaaaaaaaaat. I FELT SO BAD FOR SORA DURING THAT BOSS FIGHT OMG. THE POOR DEAR. meow wow what. is that what it's called in english are you serious and I think Sora was trying to grab TronRinzler's hand but he didn't and Tron fell but I'm not too clear on any part of the game other than the endgame because when it came out I was like "ENDGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEE" and yeah. >_<' but I think the Tron in KH3D is not the same Tron from KHII. I think the Grid is supposed to be a copy of Space Paranoids, so take heart from that? I think? god this game it's going to give me as many feels as BbS did asdfjkl.

jesus i hope everything is spoiler-tagged. There's too much of it DX

CarefulWetPaint
May 6th, 2012, 11:37 PM
Soo.. Many.. Spoiler tag.. You two should just spoiler tag the whole post thats just to eachother while you fangirl xD.

@Sakura I havent played BbS :S
So yeah I dont know who Ven is.. But you two seem in love with him big time. Cuties!

/moves away from KH.

Since I have brought up Advent Children and got some of you talking about it, would anyone be interested in a Final Fantasy 7 remake for the PS3, Xbox 360 etc..? Also would you want it to keep the turnbased (or whatever youd call it) combat system or adapt over a more kingdom hearts (actual decent combat system) over into the FF games?
Personally I'd get the remake and play it if it had KH style combat xD I think itd be fantastic!

Cherrim
May 7th, 2012, 03:47 PM
asdfjkl. I'm sorrrryyyyy omg. What games have you played? If you haven't played BbS then yeah my posts are ~full of spoilers omg~ and Ven is just fantastic okay. He's just so cute and he loves his friends so much and HE DOES A LOT OF STUFF THAT I CAN'T SPEAK OF RIGHT NOW ASDFJKL but I just love him and Lightning is apparently the only other Ven fangirl on this planet because everyone seems to hate him and gah.
HOW CAN ANYONE HATE VEN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. you must be mixing up "don't love to the sheer extent that we do" with "hate". *solemn nod*
No, no! I just don't want everyone else to get fed up with us, lol. but veeeeeeeeen. he deserves to be talked about more ;;
we could offer to take it to VMs but we already have and the VMs are almost as long as the posts too. how is this happening
spoiler: KH3D, BbS, Days
ASDFJKL NO MY BABIES D; Well Roxas and Ven anyway not the biggest fan of Xion D; but asdfjkl no no no no no NO that can never happen VEN MUST WAKE UP BECAUSE EVERYONE NEEDS HIM ;; now my heart is breaking too. I can't imagine what Aqua would do ;_____; well technically it was Axel that carted around unconscious Roxas at CO and then unconscious Xion but he totally has nothing on Ven's babysitter skills <3
spoilers: BBS, Days, 3D
I feel like there's another kid Axel has touched inappropriately had to deal w--oh right. He drags an unconscious Sora around in 3D, too. I knew someone was missing. XD God, Axel, you suck at this.
Man, you've got some Terra issues going on up in here. IT'S BROMANCE, OKAY. but yeah terra would make stuff up on the spot and Aqua KNOWS ALL THE THINGS and she has ALL THE LOGICS so go ask her how to play ven XD
TERRA IS JUST HILARIOUSLY BAD AT LIFE, OKAY. I find it difficult to take him seriously in the slightest.
spoiler:KH3D, BbS
Or maybe MX just likes shirtless and/or unconscious underage boys. IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND WITH HIM, AM I RIGHT. With the way YMX was like "DON'T TOUCH THE NEW VESSEL |:<" or perhaps it was catering to the fangirls who wanted to see Naked!Roxas!Ven. I'm going to guess the latter XD
spoilers: BBS
I suppose the better option is the latter but that didn't make it any less awkward to sit through. ;_; I felt like a pedo or something lmao.
I think he was blinded by his desire for revenge, and since he was banished or whatever from Radiant Garden by Nobodies, he just generalizes all Nobodies as EVIL. Which to be fair most of them are.especially Xigbar for reasons but Roxas and Namine weren't evil so wtf Diz :/ Good. omg seriously six years six asdfjkl KHIII WHERE ARE YOU D:

You know, Marluxia was originally supposed to be a woman. But then it would have been two women trying to oppose a male-dominated organization and getting crushed for it in the end. Unfortunate implications~
Most of the Nobodies weren't kids, either. (Namine looks the right age in KH2 but when DiZ met her, she totally looked 8. Who in their right mind suspects 8 year olds of being irreversibly evil?? Especially when you know what kind of background they came from before you met them!) >:( Even if Namine and Roxas WERE evil, dude, they were created from 14 year olds. They wouldn't know any better anyway!

haha i know. I don't think anyone is ever surprised to hear it. :( They didn't try very hard to mask that change, lmao.
I tend to dislike both kinds of characters but nooooooo not in KH :/ Sora and Riku are both my babies and Ven too of course and Terra will be if he gets his head screwed on correctly in KHIII. poor dear no one likes him ): AWWWWWWWWWW POOR RIKU XD
I've become so chill in fandoms over the years that it's really hard for me to dislike anyone. Even the characters whose personalities/actions I dislike, I usually like the idea of their character to some extent. (Except MX. Will never like MX.) And of course I'm that weird fangirl in the series who actually likes every single one of the girls oops. @_@; I'm just indifferent to everyone else lol.
hun, go find your tablet and draw some ven/nami or more babysitter!ven BECAUSE IT IS SPECTACULAR
Because Ven would be friends with anyone who's not Xehanort or Vanitas. BECAUSE HE'S JUST SO AWESOME SDLKFJSL.
:( Ven would probably try to be friends with them too, if they'd met under different circumstances. I mean, it wouldn't have lasted long. But still would have tried.

.......no arguments here. XD
spoiler: BbS, 3DS
Oh yeah, forgot about that. I tend to zone out whenever Xigbar/Braig starts speaking because he is a prick of the highest order omg. and omg omg I watched that cutscene on youtube and I was like "Wtf why did I just watch Xemnas walk for four hours? Jesus." and forgot about that too. Idk why he would just let himself become a Xehanort. YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK YOUR LIFE STRATEGY, THERE. he made me rage a little bit when he said the bit about the "drowned goldfish" to Sora asdfjkl I was like "GET SOME NEW MATERIAL MAN, YOU'VE BEEN USING THAT FOR TEN YEARS |:<" and then he got all up in Sora's face and I was like "YOU BEST STEP OFF, SON." and gaaaah. 3DS is one big rage-fest.
spoilers: 3DS
Xigbar takes too long to get to the point and I don't think anyone ever actually tells him anything to begin with so he doesn't know what he's talking about anyway. I think Zexion spends the whole scene telling him to go away. I cannot blame him. I am really curious to know what his motive for becoming a Xehanort is. And Isa, too. Were they tricked into it? And why tf does Braig follow MX in the first place? It's MX's fault that he lost his eye. I'd excommunicate anyone who got me into a situation like that. >:O
spoiler: BbS, 3DS
Looked around on some other forums and general consensus is that this MX was pulled out of his timeline by YMX, before MX possessed Terra. Ansem and Xemnas were also pulled out of their timelines before they were destroyed by Sora/Riku. Now idk if this is the actual truth but it makes more sense than "LOL OLD!MASTER XEHANORT IS BACK WITH NO EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER", don't you think? and general consensus is also that all these Xehanorts were sent back to their timelines at the end of the game with no memory of what had happened. So that explains away the mass vanishing of the Xehanorts after Lea is a complete and utter boss and swoops in to save Sora.
spoilers: 3DS
Oh. Wait, so then... (Y)MX has to go around collecting them all again? The hell? So what was the point of pulling Xemnas/Ansem out of their timelines anyway? Just to act as distractions for Riku and Sora while MX was compiled? I mean, I gues that kind of makes sense but it seems like kind of a waste.

Augh, time travel is confusing, why did they have to bring it into KH lmao. ;_;
spoiler:BbS
NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I think that man is a compulsive liar ;_; yeah I never saw anything wrong with it either. You just need to fill in a couple of blanks (ie, the Disney Castle thing) I mean really. Sora sweetie, when you are attacked by a strange creature of armor who confuses you for Riku and then Xehanort of all people, you need to tell someone knowledgeable about this. The Ven thing, though, I'm not sure if Ven was completely conscious at this point. Like he was probably close to being somewhat conscious, but he wasn't yet. lol really? The fight always looked hard but alas no KHIIFM for me so I wouldn't know from experience D; SPEAKING OF LINGERING SENTIMENT~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu_JzszPfa8&feature=related) this is seriously well-done and you need to watch it all the way through
spoilers: BBS
I like the idea of Ven being conscious pretty much all the time in Sora's head. When Sora's writing math tests in school, they'd be able to sit there brainstorming together. (But I don't think Ven would be very much help in that situation.) Sora probably just thinks of Ven as his imaginary friend. 8D

>18 minute video
>like this post isn't taking me long enough XD

Wow, I recognize this Youtuber. They're the reason I got through Ven's side of my LV1 playthrough because they'd already done it before. Wow, and they're good at dubbing too, it's so well-done. And awww that ending. I really want to go back and do this fight now... I haven't since BBS came out since I only managed to do it the first time a few days before BBS arrived on my doorstep anyway.

I also like that according to this video, Terra('s Armour) picked the wrong side again. "Don't mind me, just attacking the only person capable of stopping future!Me from taking over the world!"
spoiler:BbS
Omg seriously? You think so? Well, in that case YEN SID I AM DISAPPOINT. I mean how dare you do that Terra deserves to be saved like everyone else you big stupid. what is it with all these Keyblade Masters being big stupids. Except for Aqua of course <3
spoilers: BBS, 3D
Well. To be fair. Terra probably deserves to be saved last, but it's probably safest to save him first since it would solve at least some of the Xehanort problems. u_u; But I mean, I hate that they never tell Sora the whole story ever. They have to assume in the first game that there's only one Keyblade ever, in KH2, they don't even tell them that Ansem = Xehanort until halfway through the game... god. It's like they want him to bumble through his role as SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE by accident. >:/ I mean, I can't reeeally think of any problems it would have solved for Sora to be more knowledgeable about the past the whole time, but it couldn't be a bad thing either.
spoiler: KH3D
Well, I saw the sequel why no not because of Space Paranoids why do you ask and I already knew who Rinzler was and then it came out that the Grid was going to be in 3D and I was like "uh-oh. UH-OH." copy/pasting whaaaaaaaaaaaaat. I FELT SO BAD FOR SORA DURING THAT BOSS FIGHT OMG. THE POOR DEAR. meow wow what. is that what it's called in english are you serious and I think Sora was trying to grab TronRinzler's hand but he didn't and Tron fell but I'm not too clear on any part of the game other than the endgame because when it came out I was like "ENDGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEE" and yeah. >_<' but I think the Tron in KH3D is not the same Tron from KHII. I think the Grid is supposed to be a copy of Space Paranoids, so take heart from that? I think? god this game it's going to give me as many feels as BbS did asdfjkl.
spoilers: 3D
Yeah, only reason I ever have any intention of seeing a TRON movie is because of KH. XD As for copy/pasting... there's this long scene where Xemnas shows up while Sora's in The Grid and Xemnas starts going on about copies and how every time Sora does something, there's another version of him that did something else and I think he was going on and on about alternate universe things, trying to explain (very round-aboutly) how YMX's time travel works. He's also explaining how The Grid is just a copy of the program used in Space Paranoids, but Sora just does. not. get it. And Xemnas also threw something about feelings in there, but I never did figure out why. Anyway! There are like 20 Soras walking around during the cutscene or something so I just called it the copy/pasting lesson. 8D Hopefully this is accurate. I was high on painkillers for pretty much every part of this game except the last 2-3 worlds so I rarely (if ever) knew wtf was going on. XD;

After the Rinzler fight was just confusing. So you fight him, and then ActualBadGuy attacks, but Rinzler/Tron/whoever blocks his attacks so it does seem like there's some sort of connection between him and Sora. (I think the characters try to rationalize it as their hearts were connected even if it wasn't the same Tron? Sounds KH-y enough.) But in protecting Sora, Rinzler falls to his doom or whatever--and he and Sora definitely have a moment going on when they reach for each other, but Sora doesn't make it in time and Rinzler disappears. I was so ready for the waterworks then because BAAAW but... Sora just stares at his hand, and then gets all happy about the fact that Tron "remembered" him. I was left sitting there going "WAIT. But... you let him fall... WTF SORA." @_@
Since I have brought up Advent Children and got some of you talking about it, would anyone be interested in a Final Fantasy 7 remake for the PS3, Xbox 360 etc..? Also would you want it to keep the turnbased (or whatever youd call it) combat system or adapt over a more kingdom hearts (actual decent combat system) over into the FF games?
Personally I'd get the remake and play it if it had KH style combat xD I think itd be fantastic!
I would love one but they've as good as confirmed it's not coming any time soon, if ever. :( Apparently it would just be too big a project to undertake since it would take almost all of their resources to recreate everything on a current-gen console. I imagine changing the fighting system around would take even more work. XD;

But I'd still love something like this. ;~; I don't have a problem with old graphics anyway, but a lot of people I know do so the only way they'll play older games like FF7 is if it gets remade. :/

CarefulWetPaint
May 7th, 2012, 04:25 PM
I would love one but they've as good as confirmed it's not coming any time soon, if ever. :( Apparently it would just be too big a project to undertake since it would take almost all of their resources to recreate everything on a current-gen console. I imagine changing the fighting system around would take even more work. XD;

But I'd still love something like this. ;~; I don't have a problem with old graphics anyway, but a lot of people I know do so the only way they'll play older games like FF7 is if it gets remade. :/

Naw, I saw that somewhere I think but I was hoping they'd recreate it. The old graphics were very tedious to look at especially with the horrible combat system.
The FF combat system is definitely my least favourite combat system I can remember using.
Id play the whole game through if they remade it.. even with the horrible combat system.. Just to see the cut scenes xD.

Speaking of which what does everyone think about the FF combat system? Like or dislike it? And why do you like/dislike it??

Cherrim
May 7th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Naw, I saw that somewhere I think but I was hoping they'd recreate it. The old graphics were very tedious to look at especially with the horrible combat system.
The FF combat system is definitely my least favourite combat system I can remember using.
Id play the whole game through if they remade it.. even with the horrible combat system.. Just to see the cut scenes xD.

Speaking of which what does everyone think about the FF combat system? Like or dislike it? And why do you like/dislike it??
Really?? I looove the ATB system. I'm not usually a fan of turn-based battles but I love the realtime element that the Final Fantasy series usually uses. I didn't like FFX as much as others because they took out the realtime aspect. My favourites are probably XIII(-2), X-2, XII and VII in that order. (I say VII because I haven't *actually* played many others and they sort of seem pretty similar from what I can tell anyway. XD)

I have nothing against turn-based, but battles never feel epic or down-to-the-wire unless there's some sort of timing element. (I only like XII's so much because it allowed me to pretty much set everything up perfectly and then never touch the controller during fights because everything was set to do it for me. XD *lazy*)

CarefulWetPaint
May 7th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Really?? I looove the ATB system. I'm not usually a fan of turn-based battles but I love the realtime element that the Final Fantasy series usually uses. I didn't like FFX as much as others because they took out the realtime aspect. My favourites are probably XIII(-2), X-2, XII and VII in that order. (I say VII because I haven't *actually* played many others and they sort of seem pretty similar from what I can tell anyway. XD)

I have nothing against turn-based, but battles never feel epic or down-to-the-wire unless there's some sort of timing element. (I only like XII's so much because it allowed me to pretty much set everything up perfectly and then never touch the controller during fights because everything was set to do it for me. XD *lazy*)

Yay I can finally quote you!

My main problem is that it stops game play and has to load up the battle instead of just getting right into it. If it was really quick so you barely noticed the change itd be alright i just hate the fact it takes so long to load up each battle and that you cant actively be apart of the fights (Because all you do is click do this attack or this attack, not a combinations of buttons, which i do like a lot better).

I have nothing against turn-based at all either I just don't think its a very good combat system for a fighting based game such as FF..

Plus turn based combat doesnt feel as risky or tense because you know how much damage your move has and its chance of critting so its basically just click the move that does the most damage then watch it happen then repeat. :S but thats just me. Im sure someone here loveesss the FF style combat!

ToriSora
May 7th, 2012, 04:51 PM
I wonder what kind of battle system KH 3 will have. I noticed each game they change it. TBH if they did Free Flow from 3D,Summons and Reactions from KH 2 and D Link from BBS I'd be happy.

Cherrim
May 7th, 2012, 05:00 PM
Yay I can finally quote you!

My main problem is that it stops game play and has to load up the battle instead of just getting right into it. If it was really quick so you barely noticed the change itd be alright i just hate the fact it takes so long to load up each battle and that you cant actively be apart of the fights (Because all you do is click do this attack or this attack, not a combinations of buttons, which i do like a lot better).

I have nothing against turn-based at all either I just don't think its a very good combat system for a fighting based game such as FF..

Plus turn based combat doesnt feel as risky or tense because you know how much damage your move has and its chance of critting so its basically just click the move that does the most damage then watch it happen then repeat. :S but thats just me. Im sure someone here loveesss the FF style combat!
Well, most JRPGs are like that unless you're looking at KH or Tales (and even the latter has random encounters or scene changing). :( XIII Versus isn't gonna be like that, but it's also dubious whether they'll ever stop working on it and release it. :P

Random encounters drive me nuts (I don't like not having the choice to try to dodge an enemy before it attacks) but I like the ATB system so much that I put up with encounters in the FF games for it. I don't mind choosing my attacks from a menu at all so long as I can't just sit there and think deeply about my moves for all eternity since it's just boring then.
I wonder what kind of battle system KH 3 will have. I noticed each game they change it. TBH if they did Free Flow from 3D,Summons and Reactions from KH 2 and D Link from BBS I'd be happy.
I think it'll be hard to go back to other KH games without FFA from now on. x_X It just makes everything so much faster and more streamlined. I'd be absolutely okay with your proposed battle system, though... so long as it used the command system from BBS/3D rather than the old system from KH1/2/Days. :P

CarefulWetPaint
May 7th, 2012, 05:11 PM
I think a free flow system would work really well, and it wouldnt really be much of a change from the current console combat system (Why is there such a difference in time between the console games, ridic!) As long as its not TB Ill be a happy little gamer.

The random encounters do my head in in the FF games so much. I cant remember if theres a way to like run from them either. The whole scene change before a battle should be left to pokemon and thats that! (Possibly advanced wars as well.)

The worst thing about the FF combat system is if youre trying to dodge a battle get like three quarters past them then they look in your general direction and you get dragged into a battle even if you didnt want to battle them.

Also why is its release dubious!? Are they thinking of canning it??

Cherrim
May 7th, 2012, 06:11 PM
You can run from the battles once you're in them, but to get into a battle, it just randomly happens while you're walking around in the overworld/dungeons. It suuucks. :( That's part of the reason I like XII and XIII so much, since you could pick and choose everything you wanted to fight. There were no random battles. XII-2 isn't too bad, either. The battles are random, but you still have a chance to get away from them before the battle starts and the scene shifts to the battle area. :x

Nah, I'm just saying that because it's been 6 years already so I'm starting to think it's always been a figment of my imagination. XD;

Sakura Rain
May 7th, 2012, 06:11 PM
HOW CAN ANYONE HATE VEN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. you must be mixing up "don't love to the sheer extent that we do" with "hate". *solemn nod*

I in fact saw someone on a different forum who thought Ven was the reason that everything went to hell in a handbasket and he should have just spoilers:BbS
died when MX shattered his heart
and he shouldn't have
spoilers:BbS
connected his heart with Sora's and this is a true fact this person actually said this stuff and I was like "...are you secretly MX? Or perhaps Vanitas?"

we could offer to take it to VMs but we already have and the VMs are almost as long as the posts too. how is this happening

omg i know your VMs and mine are clogged with SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER PICSPAM SPOILER omg how is this a thing

spoilers: BBS, Days, 3D
I feel like there's another kid Axel has touched inappropriately had to deal w--oh right. He drags an unconscious Sora around in 3D, too. I knew someone was missing. XD God, Axel, you suck at this.

spoilers:KH3D
BUT HE WAS A BOSS IN KH3D AM I RIGHT. I mean he just swoops in there at the very last second and Braig's all "AXEL OMG" AND LEA'S ALL "LOLNOPE I'M LEA GOT IT MEMORIZED" but then the Guardian was like "blargh" and grabbed Riku and Mickey and Lea was like "crapcrapcrap" BUT THEN DONALD AND GOOFY FELL FROM THE SKY SO IT'S ALL GOOD. omg this game lol

TERRA IS JUST HILARIOUSLY BAD AT LIFE, OKAY. I find it difficult to take him seriously in the slightest.

I feel so bad for Terra. No one on earth takes him seriously, not even his fangirls. well ven probably does but hero-worship and all that


spoilers: BBS
I suppose the better option is the latter but that didn't make it any less awkward to sit through. ;_; I felt like a pedo or something lmao.

spoilers: BbS
Yeah, wasn't Ven like...eleven in that scene omg. MX YOU PEDO. he totes is, just look at him omg


Most of the Nobodies weren't kids, either. (Namine looks the right age in KH2 but when DiZ met her, she totally looked 8. Who in their right mind suspects 8 year olds of being irreversibly evil?? Especially when you know what kind of background they came from before you met them!) >:( Even if Namine and Roxas WERE evil, dude, they were created from 14 year olds. They wouldn't know any better anyway!

haha i know. I don't think anyone is ever surprised to hear it. :( They didn't try very hard to mask that change, lmao.

Did she? It's been sooooo long since I've played CoM so yeah. I thought she always looked like 14 or whatever. Well, I think that's the point. DiZ wasn't in his right mind. He'd been driven crazy from the desire for revenge, I guess. I dunno what happened to snap him out of it before KHII's endgame. do you know? idk if it was an actual thing that happened or if he just woke up one day and went "What the hell."

asdfjkl WHYYYY DIDN'T YOU AT LEAST TAKE AWAY THE PINK NOMURA. well you like the pink don't you hun XD

I've become so chill in fandoms over the years that it's really hard for me to dislike anyone. Even the characters whose personalities/actions I dislike, I usually like the idea of their character to some extent. (Except MX. Will never like MX.) And of course I'm that weird fangirl in the series who actually likes every single one of the girls oops. @_@; I'm just indifferent to everyone else [/I]lol.


Who in their right mind actually likes MX, omg I like all of them too. When I was younger I hated all the girls with a passion omg but I'm slowly starting to warm up to them, lol. Nami especially, because of the aforementioned shipping omg SO CUTE ASDFJKL


:( Ven would probably try to be friends with them too, if they'd met under different circumstances. I mean, it wouldn't have lasted long. But still would have tried.

.......no arguments here. XD

He probably would've, and then this
it's just a picture, people, no spoilers here except maybe BbS
http://i46.tinypic.com/345mwy1.jpg
would've happened and that would've been it omg

spoilers:3DS
Xigbar takes too long to get to the point and I don't think anyone ever actually tells him anything to begin with so he doesn't know what he's talking about anyway. I think Zexion spends the whole scene telling him to go away. I cannot blame him. I am really curious to know what his motive for becoming a Xehanort is. And Isa, too. Were they tricked into it? And why tf does Braig follow MX in the first place? It's MX's fault that he lost his eye. I'd excommunicate anyone who got me into a situation like that. >:O

spoilers: 3DS
Well, I don't think Braig was tricked into it because he's just that evil am i right, but Isa...asdfjkl idk something just seems off here. Mind control perhaps? asdfjkl i don't know but i must know omg. And I think Braig continues to follow MX because he wants a keyblade. Yeeeeeep. The thought of Braig with a keyblade is terrifying omg



spoilers: 3DS
Oh. Wait, so then... (Y)MX has to go around collecting them all again? The hell? So what was the point of pulling Xemnas/Ansem out of their timelines anyway? Just to act as distractions for Riku and Sora while MX was compiled? I mean, I gues that kind of makes sense but it seems like kind of a waste.

Augh, time travel is confusing, why did they have to bring it into KH lmao. ;_;

spoilers:3DS, BbS
erm now I'm not 100% sure about this but I think that you're right and Xemnas and Ansem were pulled out of their timelines just to mess with Sora and Riku. And Xemnas is Sora's final boss before he gets kidnapped by YMX omg my baby. and also Xemnas and Ansem were supposed to be part of the 13 Darknesses or whatever and Sora was supposed to be one of the 7 Lights but MX was trying to make Sora into Soranort so that he would have all 13 darknesses and the 7 lights would be two short, counting Terra (because MX says something about having two of the lights under his control, which would be Terra and then Sora briefly), possibly three short, because without Sora, Ven can't wake up.

and idk I remember in the BbSFM secret ending i know it was a lie okay hun I'm sorry but I have to bring this up omg in like the very last scene Ven disappears from his throne in CO so I'm not sure what that is supposed to symbolize If he is kidnapped by MX or any incarnation of Xehanort especially terranort I WILL RAGE but then again Sora disappears from the tree on DI so idk I'M JUST RAMBLING NOW OKAY the time travel it is hurting my brain asdfjkl




spoilers:BBS
I like the idea of Ven being conscious pretty much all the time in Sora's head. When Sora's writing math tests in school, they'd be able to sit there brainstorming together. (But I don't think Ven would be very much help in that situation.) Sora probably just thinks of Ven as his imaginary friend. 8D

>18 minute video
>like this post isn't taking me long enough XD

Wow, I recognize this Youtuber. They're the reason I got through Ven's side of my LV1 playthrough because they'd already done it before. Wow, and they're good at dubbing too, it's so well-done. And awww that ending. I really want to go back and do this fight now... I haven't since BBS came out since I only managed to do it the first time a few days before BBS arrived on my doorstep anyway.

I also like that according to this video, Terra('s Armour) picked the wrong side again. "Don't mind me, just attacking the only person capable of stopping future!Me from taking over the world!"


spoilers:BbS

But Ven does need to sleep some. His heart was literally broken, I'd imagine he needs to sleep a lot in order to heal himself.but now I'm imagining Flustered!Ven trying to help Sora at math and gah. Veeeeen I'm not good at math either come over here and help me ;_;

hun I'm sorry ;_; but I especially liked the part where Ven goes "You're gonna be fine" or whatever and the dude makes it look like that's what revived Sora OMG THIS NEEDS TO BECOME A THING RIGHT THIS INSTANT and then Terra's war cry or whatever it was. Goodness. That's the only good thing about his english voice actor. DAT SCREAM ASDFJKL. andandand then the start of it when it was all Ven and Aqua and "Just...put an end to me." and kalfjsd;lkfjdsf brb bawling

asdfjkl terra sweetie why do you keep doing this. DOES SORA LOOK AT ALL SIMILAR TO XEHANORT. hell sora's got your best friend's heart, for crying out loud jesus. didn't you at least sense that? TERRA WHY DO YOU MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT FOR ME TO LOVE YOU.

spoilers: BBS, 3D

Well. To be fair. Terra probably deserves to be saved last, but it's probably safest to save him first since it would solve at least some of the Xehanort problems. u_u; But I mean, I hate that they never tell Sora the whole story ever. They have to assume in the first game that there's only one Keyblade ever, in KH2, they don't even tell them that Ansem = Xehanort until halfway through the game... god. It's like they want him to bumble through his role as SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE by accident. >:/ I mean, I can't reeeally think of any problems it would have solved for Sora to be more knowledgeable about the past the whole time, but it couldn't be a bad thing either.

spoilers:BbS

I've always thought since Terra will most likely be the most difficult one to save he'll be saved last. Like Yen Sid and Mickey know where Aqua is and I think they also know the location of Ven's heart. but not his body. WHAT DOES THIS SOLVE ASDFJKL but it'll sort of be a bit difficult to separate Terra from MX and I'm not completely certain on how you would go about it. DX

spoilers:KH3D

omg i know it's like they just don't think Sora can handle it. HE CAN TOTES HANDLE IT, HE GOT HIS HEART BROKE again, literally BY YMX, YOU IDIOTS OMG and I meant that it would solve the problem of Yen Sid and Mickey allegedly not knowing what happened to Terra. But if Yen Sid knew the whole time then I will raaaaaage.

spoilers: 3D
Yeah, only reason I ever have any intention of seeing a TRON movie is because of KH. XD As for copy/pasting... there's this long scene where Xemnas shows up while Sora's in The Grid and Xemnas starts going on about copies and how every time Sora does something, there's another version of him that did something else and I think he was going on and on about alternate universe things, trying to explain (very round-aboutly) how YMX's time travel works. He's also explaining how The Grid is just a copy of the program used in Space Paranoids, but Sora just does. not. get it. And Xemnas also threw something about feelings in there, but I never did figure out why. Anyway! There are like 20 Soras walking around during the cutscene or something so I just called it the copy/pasting lesson. 8D Hopefully this is accurate. I was high on painkillers for pretty much every part of this game except the last 2-3 worlds so I rarely (if ever) knew wtf was going on. XD;

After the Rinzler fight was just confusing. So you fight him, and then ActualBadGuy attacks, but Rinzler/Tron/whoever blocks his attacks so it does seem like there's some sort of connection between him and Sora. (I think the characters try to rationalize it as their hearts were connected even if it wasn't the same Tron? Sounds KH-y enough.) But in protecting Sora, Rinzler falls to his doom or whatever--and he and Sora definitely have a moment going on when they reach for each other, but Sora doesn't make it in time and Rinzler disappears. I was so ready for the waterworks then because BAAAW but... Sora just stares at his hand, and then gets all happy about the fact that Tron "remembered" him. I was left sitting there going "WAIT. But... you let him fall... WTF SORA." @_@

spoilers:KH3D
...XEMNAS Y U SO CONFUSING. omg that seriously just broke my brain, hun. so is this the part when Sora is asked "Can you even call yourself the original?" because I remember seeing that in a trailer along with a bunch of TronLines!Soras so I assume that it is. and oh Sora, you just don't understand, do you dear? He's so lovably thick-headed XD ...how on earth did this game make annnny sense on painkillers? It doesn't even make sense normally! and I think that was brought up in CoM, about the connected hearts and the memory people remembering Sora even though they've supposedly never met. and asdfjkl SORA WHAT ARE YOU THINKINNNNNG OMG THAT ISN'T SOMETHING TO GET HAPPY ABOUT ASDFJKL

@FF7 Remake: DO WANT. was playing it yesterday and hell's bells it has not aged well. They'll never do it because everyone wants it, though. apparently the fact that it prints money did not occur to them. idk

trying to write separate wall of texts between two different fanclubs is not fun omg

Cherrim
May 7th, 2012, 10:37 PM
I in fact saw someone on a different forum who thought Ven was the reason that everything went to hell in a handbasket and he should have just spoilers:BbS
died when MX shattered his heart
and he shouldn't have
spoilers:BbS
connected his heart with Sora's and this is a true fact this person actually said this stuff and I was like "...are you secretly MX? Or perhaps Vanitas?"
spoiler: BBS
Well, I mean. I can see what they're trying to say but it's a stretch because none of that was Ven's fault. Like, I joke about everything being Terra's fault but at least he made a lot of dumb decisons that got him to where he is. What did Ven do? His heart reached out to wherever it could in self-defence because otherwise he'd die. How is it his fault that Sora's heart reached out right back? :(
spoilers:KH3D
BUT HE WAS A BOSS IN KH3D AM I RIGHT. I mean he just swoops in there at the very last second and Braig's all "AXEL OMG" AND LEA'S ALL "LOLNOPE I'M LEA GOT IT MEMORIZED" but then the Guardian was like "blargh" and grabbed Riku and Mickey and Lea was like "crapcrapcrap" BUT THEN DONALD AND GOOFY FELL FROM THE SKY SO IT'S ALL GOOD. omg this game lol
spoiler: 3D
Oh my god. I don't even like Axel/Lea all that much but that was such an amazing scene. He like... totally stole the game with it. It was hilarious right after that where everyone keeps going "AXEL!" and he keeps trying to correct them and finally he's just like "You know what? Nevermind. Axel is fine. Whatever. ~_~" Haha, aww, Lea, it is going to take ages for anyone to call you that, I'm sorry.

Can I just insert here that I hate that the English games changed the pronunciation of Lea. >:O It's supposed to be Lee-ah and that's how I say it and NONE OF MY IRL FRIENDS EVER KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT if I don't say "Lea". I mean, I guess I get that Leah is a girl's name but who cares. ;_; It's not like KH doesn't have a Riku and a Rikku so who cares what the names sound liiiike.
I feel so bad for Terra. No one on earth takes him seriously, not even his fangirls. well ven probably does but hero-worship and all that
Ven kind of takes everyone seriously. :(
Did she? It's been sooooo long since I've played CoM so yeah. I thought she always looked like 14 or whatever. Well, I think that's the point. DiZ wasn't in his right mind. He'd been driven crazy from the desire for revenge, I guess. I dunno what happened to snap him out of it before KHII's endgame. do you know? idk if it was an actual thing that happened or if he just woke up one day and went "What the hell."

asdfjkl WHYYYY DIDN'T YOU AT LEAST TAKE AWAY THE PINK NOMURA. well you like the pink don't you hun XD
not actually a spoiler, just spoil'd to avoid stretching the page even more XD
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4739/ncomvsnii.jpg
Kind of a weird image but there's probably no better one for comparison about their size difference. Pretty much any screenshot from Re:COM shows off just how little she looks especially with Marluxia in it because he ups the creepy factor by about a million. So yeah, how anyone could think COM-era Namine is evil, I have no idea. ;_; I played KH2 only a few months ago but I don't really remember why DiZ changes his mind over everything. o_O;

Fun fact: I did not like pink at all before Marluxia became my favourite KH character. Now it is my favourite colour. Fun fact #2: I like to make up Pokémon teams for fictional characters. Any guesses as to why Cherrim is my favourite Pokémon? :D)
Who in their right mind actually likes MX, omg I like all of them too. When I was younger I hated all the girls with a passion omg but I'm slowly starting to warm up to them, lol. Nami especially, because of the aforementioned shipping omg SO CUTE ASDFJKL
I went through a horribly embarrassing yaoi phase (before I mellowed out and decided to ship ALL THE THINGS) so in a lot of fandoms I was in back then, I hated all of the females because they ~got in the way~ but I never really had that problem with KH. I liked Kairi a LOT when I played the first game and I thought Namine was so intriguing when I played COM that it just never even crossed my mind to dislike her. XD; There weren't really any other girls in the series at the time except Larxene, I guess, and she was a bad guy and I didn't pay attention to bad guys.

i'll just leave this here
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3oxkeBV1s1qzo7dyo1_400.png
spoilers: 3DS
Well, I don't think Braig was tricked into it because he's just that evil am i right, but Isa...asdfjkl idk something just seems off here. Mind control perhaps? asdfjkl i don't know but i must know omg. And I think Braig continues to follow MX because he wants a keyblade. Yeeeeeep. The thought of Braig with a keyblade is terrifying omg
spoiler: BBS, 3D, Days, pretty much everything now that I think about it
I always assume Braig was in it for a Keyblade too but... you'd think after like 10+ years he'd figure out that Xehanort wasn't going to give him one? o_O; Plus, it's Xehanort, so you know there's some kind of deception going on there. But why Braig would follow him for so long with so little reward... I just can't get my head around it. ;_;'

Isa makes me sad because what if he joined of his own volition? I mean, Saix and Axel are kind of split apart by the events of Days when Axel befriends Roxas and Xion and Saix is just like "wtf r u doing step away from the children". They're revealed to have plans to betray Xemnas, Axel pulls off all that crap at C.O. for Saix and then... ditches his best/oldest friend for two kids he's known for a month or two? Then Axel quits the Organization after he fails to bring Roxas back at the beginning of KH2 and Saix is stuck hunting him down. He's revealed to preeeetty much be the reason Axel dies as a Nobody (he beat him up which weakened him even before Axel goes all kamikaze on those Dusks in the In-Between) and almost vice versa, since Axel's the only reason Sora & Co. make it to TWTNW. So Isa could wake up as a Somebody again and be unable to think anything but "wow what a douche, I'm not gonna be his friend anymore what's the point in even going back to Radiant Garden". Depending on what YMX could have offered him... maybe he joined voluntarily. :( Or maybe he didn't know he'd be giving himself up if he joined him. I dunnnoooo.

(omg lol i nearly forgot to spoiler this)
spoilers:3DS, BbS
erm now I'm not 100% sure about this but I think that you're right and Xemnas and Ansem were pulled out of their timelines just to mess with Sora and Riku. And Xemnas is Sora's final boss before he gets kidnapped by YMX omg my baby. and also Xemnas and Ansem were supposed to be part of the 13 Darknesses or whatever and Sora was supposed to be one of the 7 Lights but MX was trying to make Sora into Soranort so that he would have all 13 darknesses and the 7 lights would be two short, counting Terra (because MX says something about having two of the lights under his control, which would be Terra and then Sora briefly), possibly three short, because without Sora, Ven can't wake up.

and idk I remember in the BbSFM secret ending i know it was a lie okay hun I'm sorry but I have to bring this up omg in like the very last scene Ven disappears from his throne in CO so I'm not sure what that is supposed to symbolize If he is kidnapped by MX or any incarnation of Xehanort especially terranort I WILL RAGE but then again Sora disappears from the tree on DI so idk I'M JUST RAMBLING NOW OKAY the time travel it is hurting my brain asdfjkl
spoiler: BBS, 3D, probably Days... let's just go with "everything" again
Yeah, I think that all checks out. Unless he meant Aqua? I'm iffy on what's going on with Terranort, especially if Xemnas and Ansem were both pulled from different timelines. All the other Nobodies came back, right? So Terranort would come back as Terranort, but if he wasn't already with YMX and the 'Norts, where is he? I can't imagine he would've just been one of the boring hooded figures. I can't remember who I assumed he was talking about. Sora for sure, but the other one is a little ambiguous.

I'm pretty sure Ven is ~safe~ because of where he is. C.O. is deliberately supposed to be a maze specifically to keep people from finding out its secrets, which was probably meant to refer to the fact that it was a haven for Keyblade Masters in training or something, but Ven is pretty much sitting on top of the world's keyhole so I don't think he can get any safer than he is. I'm fairly certain only Aqua and Namine can find her way to him, so unless she ever gives into the 'Norts (which she will not), no one can get to him. I think the disappearing imagery was supposed to be... uhh... actually I have no idea. I don't even remember that so maybe I should go watch it again. XD;

Remember, Axel was forced to search C.O. from top to bottom over and over during Days in search of the room Ven was in and he never found it. :P He may not have been the only one with those orders, either.
spoilers:BbS
But Ven does need to sleep some. His heart was literally broken, I'd imagine he needs to sleep a lot in order to heal himself.but now I'm imagining Flustered!Ven trying to help Sora at math and gah. Veeeeen I'm not good at math either come over here and help me ;_;

hun I'm sorry ;_; but I especially liked the part where Ven goes "You're gonna be fine" or whatever and the dude makes it look like that's what revived Sora OMG THIS NEEDS TO BECOME A THING RIGHT THIS INSTANT and then Terra's war cry or whatever it was. Goodness. That's the only good thing about his english voice actor. DAT SCREAM ASDFJKL. andandand then the start of it when it was all Ven and Aqua and "Just...put an end to me." and kalfjsd;lkfjdsf brb bawling

asdfjkl terra sweetie why do you keep doing this. DOES SORA LOOK AT ALL SIMILAR TO XEHANORT. hell sora's got your best friend's heart, for crying out loud jesus. didn't you at least sense that? TERRA WHY DO YOU MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT FOR ME TO LOVE YOU.
spoiler: BBS
He can sleep when Sora sleeps! Heck, he can sleep almost all the time but he'd probably wake up and get distracted by Sora's mental flailing as he takes a test he probably goofed around for instead of studying.

Aww, I liked that too. Although it confused the heck out of me and nearly made me yell at the screen because I never got a revive on that fight and I could've used it but then I noticed Terra's HP went full again and realized the creator was splicing videos. XD; Terra's VA was really good for battle sound effects and all. I was never distracted by that. It was just his sheer disinterest in any kind of story scenes that killed the mood for me. (Poor Aqua, though, every time she did/said ANYTHING in battle in the English version, I'd just cringe. "FIRE!" was the worst for me. Not sure why. Probably because I overuse Mega Flare.)

In the video, to his credit, Terra seems to have recognized that he was (sort of) fighting Ven and that's why he stopped. But he still fails the exam, extra credit or no. >:(
spoilers:BbS, Days

I've always thought since Terra will most likely be the most difficult one to save he'll be saved last. Like Yen Sid and Mickey know where Aqua is and I think they also know the location of Ven's heart. but not his body. WHAT DOES THIS SOLVE ASDFJKL but it'll sort of be a bit difficult to separate Terra from MX and I'm not completely certain on how you would go about it. DX
I sort of mentioned it above, but Terra could be the first one depending on what the status of Terranort is right now. (For all we know, maybe he came back, has amnesia all over again? I think he was faking it the first time, actually, and is currently destroying worlds all over as we speak.)

I'm not sure they know the location of Ven's heart though. :O The only people who have ever seen Ven are Yen Sid, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Lea. And the only people who've met Roxas are Riku, Sora and Axel. I'm of the assumption that Lea/Axel doesn't remember Ven because they probably only met for like a day anyway and it was 10+ years ago so I can forgive him for that. So no one in the Ven camp knows that Roxas looks just like him and no one in the Roxas camp knows that he looks just like Ven. Oh, and I guess Tinker Bell has met both of them. So she and Lea are to blame for no one knowing what's up. (Actually, now that I think of it, Donald and Goofy saw that picture of Roxas that was taken in Twilight Town, I suppose. YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD LEAVE AN IMPRESSION WITH THEM SINCE VEN D-LINKED WITH THEM AND ALL BUT NOOO. damnit. [And Sora and Riku both met Ven in some capacity during 3D but never got his name or anything so they're off the hook too.])

Actually, I wonder if Braig/Xigbar knows exactly where Ven is. o.o He would know that Xion was built as a reflection of Sora and whenever he looked at her, he saw Ven (not Roxas, he specifically recognized Ven). I wonder if he ever figured it out from that? It's possible he's withholding that information from Xehanort so that he has SOME sort of leverage over him. Maybe? I have no clue. He's pretty much the only person I can think of who would be able to know where Ven is, though.
spoilers:KH3D

omg i know it's like they just don't think Sora can handle it. HE CAN TOTES HANDLE IT, HE GOT HIS HEART BROKE again, literally BY YMX, YOU IDIOTS OMG and I meant that it would solve the problem of Yen Sid and Mickey allegedly not knowing what happened to Terra. But if Yen Sid knew the whole time then I will raaaaaage.
spoiler: idk general stuff
Sora's a lot stronger than all of them seem to think. (In the physical sense and the... everything else, sense.) He's survived having his heart taken apart, rearranged, and put back together. He's survived turning into a heartless. He's been destroyed and converted to data more times than I can count. And he's rescued countless people without asking for anything in return. I think he'd want to know about what happened in the past if only so he could jump in his gummi ship immediately to go save them.
spoilers:KH3D
...XEMNAS Y U SO CONFUSING. omg that seriously just broke my brain, hun. so is this the part when Sora is asked "Can you even call yourself the original?" because I remember seeing that in a trailer along with a bunch of TronLines!Soras so I assume that it is. and oh Sora, you just don't understand, do you dear? He's so lovably thick-headed XD ...how on earth did this game make annnny sense on painkillers? It doesn't even make sense normally! and I think that was brought up in CoM, about the connected hearts and the memory people remembering Sora even though they've supposedly never met. and asdfjkl SORA WHAT ARE YOU THINKINNNNNG OMG THAT ISN'T SOMETHING TO GET HAPPY ABOUT ASDFJKL
spoiler: 3DS
I think that might be the part. Yes, I think it is, because then Sora goes "wait, what?" and Xemnas takes that as his invitation to do his really slow speech while Sora still stands there going "wait.... what!?" (And he can't even say, like "slow down!" becuase I don't think it is physically possible for Xemnas to talk any slower than he does. [I used to really hate Xemnas but now he's one of my favourite characters because every cutscene he's in is SO FUNNY because he's speaks so slowly and monotonously and overuses his thesaurus.]) Also the game made no sense on painkillers. That was not helped by the fact that at first, I was so insistent on playing with the 3D turned on despite never playing a 3DS before and I kept getting dizzy and motion sickness from it because KH is so action-oriented, so I could only ever play like 5 minutes at a time and I'd always forget what was happening aaaah. XD

CarefulWetPaint
May 7th, 2012, 11:26 PM
And here I thought I got the discussion away from you two fangirling.

@Lightning
In XIII I still go stuck in fights I didnt want to be in -.-' really blew big chunks. I hate having to fight things when Im just trying to get through the story line to see lightning My god shes attractive.
and 6 years is that all! Duke Nukem was in development for like 13 years but it came out... eventually..

@Sakura
I would tots buy it too! They could cash in so much cash if they made it. Id be loving it immensely! Then i could actually play through the whole thing without being like.. these battles... these graphics.. kill me now..

-cough- Tifa's pretty as well -cough-

Rokusasu
May 8th, 2012, 05:00 AM
HI LIGHTNING. THANK YOU WETPAINT. SAKU-CHAN -glomps-

You weren't kidding about the walls of text thing. o: Um... Ah...

I'd be up for a FFVII remake - one of the biggest reasons that turns me off from it is the graphics, and I'm not even one of those people who spend loads of money on stuff so they can make things look pretty. Second, I don't like random battle systems. Pokémon is fine because you can choose when you walk in the grass and use repels; I like exploring places and whenever I get interrupted by monsters (and long battle intros) it's really frustrating for me. Not surprisingly, FFXII is my favourite. BALTHIER~ /FENRIS - oh wait, wrong fandom ):.

Magic
May 8th, 2012, 08:10 AM
OMG Final Fantasy! I can post!

The thing people forget about turn-based battles is it adds an element of strategy. You analyse the best route of attach, buff people up, then attack and adapt to the change. If you ask me systems KH use (and FFXIII actually) rely on button mashing combos rather than actual thought.

FF12 has a good strategy system, but people slay it for not being interactive enough ;_; personally I think the gambit idea was much better than the FF13 system. FF13-2 had many improvements however, with the feral link combo (reminded me of limits/overdrives/etc.) and the finishing move sequences for important bosses.

Also, how can you guys slate random battles on a Pokémon website? ;) Baha. The random battles of the earlier games were pretty much to increase the speed/playability of the game - imagine loads of sprites/models on hugeeee maps, loading times would have been crazy back on the PS1.

Favourite battle systems are X (for the overdrives and changable party) and XII for the gambit system, which was really useful once you were in the latter half of the game.

Cherrim
May 8th, 2012, 11:16 AM
And here I thought I got the discussion away from you two fangirling.

@Lightning
In XIII I still go stuck in fights I didnt want to be in -.-' really blew big chunks. I hate having to fight things when Im just trying to get through the story line to see lightning My god shes attractive.
and 6 years is that all! Duke Nukem was in development for like 13 years but it came out... eventually..
Neverrr. Though everyone else is welcome to ignore us. XD;

Yeah, well, then it becomes your own fault for not dodging the enemies on the screen. XD; They're all right there and you can use shrouds to buff yourself or make yourself invisible so they won't attack. why thank you 8DD *shot*

Don't use Duke Nukem as an example! Yeah, it eventually came out but then it sucked. DDD:
I'd be up for a FFVII remake - one of the biggest reasons that turns me off from it is the graphics, and I'm not even one of those people who spend loads of money on stuff so they can make things look pretty. Second, I don't like random battle systems. Pokémon is fine because you can choose when you walk in the grass and use repels; I like exploring places and whenever I get interrupted by monsters (and long battle intros) it's really frustrating for me. Not surprisingly, FFXII is my favourite. BALTHIER~ /FENRIS - oh wait, wrong fandom ):.
More FFs need an option to skip the random battles. ._. Or at least, greatly reduce their rate. Hopefully, going forward from XII/XIII, it'll be standard that battles are at least mostly avoidable? D: They're going in the right direction anyway!

lol fenris. my roommates forced me to go recruit him and then i proceeded to never visit him again. needless to say, he did not rejoin my party at the end oops. :(
OMG Final Fantasy! I can post!

The thing people forget about turn-based battles is it adds an element of strategy. You analyse the best route of attach, buff people up, then attack and adapt to the change. If you ask me systems KH use (and FFXIII actually) rely on button mashing combos rather than actual thought.
KH has button mashing, definitely. (My guard/block button on pretty much ALL my consoles is dying. XD) But XIII isn't like that at all. Yeah, it has "auto-battle" but if you're playing on the harder settings and actually looking for a challenge, you can switch to the regular turn-based system (more or less) and paradigms are essential if you don't want to die. You're doing the same thing, but the battle is a lot faster-paced, and that's the kind of thing I like best.
FF12 has a good strategy system, but people slay it for not being interactive enough ;_; personally I think the gambit idea was much better than the FF13 system. FF13-2 had many improvements however, with the feral link combo (reminded me of limits/overdrives/etc.) and the finishing move sequences for important bosses.
Since I've played XII, I can't play another FF without going "omg I wish I could tell my party members exactly what to be doing in this situation. ;_; Sooo many people disliked XII because it "played the game for you" but I never found that was the case. They were just doing whatever I told them to do (and would be telling them to do) except faster and more efficiently. If people didn't like gambits, you could just ignore them and manually handle everyone instead. What was so wrong with that? :(

I actually really disliked the reaction sequences in FFXIII-2. During cutscenes, I do not like to be holding my controller, and the bosses that had those sequences were never very obvious. It wasn't EVERY boss--or even every important boss--so I would always forget it was even a thing until suddenly there are buttons on my screen and I'm missing them. :( If it was literally right after/during the fight, I'd be fine, but some of them are 30-60 seconds after the fight ends, I think, and that's just nuts because I shouldn't have to be paying attention so much for that. /probably just lazy
Also, how can you guys slate random battles on a Pokémon website? ;) Baha. The random battles of the earlier games were pretty much to increase the speed/playability of the game - imagine loads of sprites/models on hugeeee maps, loading times would have been crazy back on the PS1.
I haaaate most battles in Pokemon. ;P Although after playing Black/White a few times, I've come to love almost any other random battle system because at least the encounter rate will be tolerable. I have no issues with the fact that they had to use this kind of a system in earlier games but it doesn't make me like it any more. That might be partially why I never liked X's system at all, since I didn't feel it was necessary considering the console it was on. Pure turn-based is just not my thing~

Magic
May 8th, 2012, 11:26 AM
But XIII isn't like that at all. Yeah, it has "auto-battle" but if you're playing on the harder settings and actually looking for a challenge, you can switch to the regular turn-based system (more or less) and paradigms are essential if you don't want to die. You're doing the same thing, but the battle is a lot faster-paced, and that's the kind of thing I like best.

I think it felt like button mashing for me, since normally I use the >load previous options< choice, and it was always the same. I found it especially boring if the only controllable character was stuck in commando/sentinel for half the battle :/. Perhaps if they had included gambits for the two uncontrollable characters I would have enjoyed it more though :).

If people didn't like gambits, you could just ignore them and manually handle everyone instead. What was so wrong with that? :(

I used to use both :3 It was meant you could cruise through normal battles without them becoming too stressful but if anything bad happened it was easily corrected. Most bosses had a kind of surprise/status spam move (the jungle monster thing?) which kept you on your toes not fully relying on the gambits.

I actually really disliked the reaction sequences in FFXIII-2. During cutscenes, I do not like to be holding my controller, and the bosses that had those sequences were never very obvious. It wasn't EVERY boss--or even every important boss--so I would always forget it was even a thing until suddenly there are buttons on my screen and I'm missing them. :( If it was literally right after/during the fight, I'd be fine, but some of them are 30-60 seconds after the fight ends, I think, and that's just nuts because I shouldn't have to be paying attention so much for that. /probably just lazy

I was caught out a few times, I guess they can't really give you a warning though otherwise it kind of ruins the point ><.

That might be partially why I never liked X's system at all, since I didn't feel it was necessary considering the console it was on. Pure turn-based is just not my thing~

X had many redeeming features (true character development choices, interesting summons, good sidequests, etc.) that I probably overlooked that :3 Also I played some of the early FF and like Tactics and other turn-based games anyway.

Cherrim
May 8th, 2012, 01:20 PM
I think it felt like button mashing for me, since normally I use the >load previous options< choice, and it was always the same. I found it especially boring if the only controllable character was stuck in commando/sentinel for half the battle :/. Perhaps if they had included gambits for the two uncontrollable characters I would have enjoyed it more though :).
Yeah, you're definitely right there. FFXIII's battle system got really good in the endgame when you're doing the extra missions and stuff and I tend to forget that most of the game is tutorial where you're just going through the motions and they don't even let you use the full extent of the battle system until... chapter 11/13? x_X; I fully completed that game so I spent many more hours doing extra fights than plot-based fights and I guess I overlook it. I haaated not being able to choose my character and I hated not being able to use other sections of the Crystarium with other people and it really did detract a lot from the battles. So I see where you're coming from now. XD; It is pretty boring through most of the main game. I do feel like that's more of a failure in how they designed the game itself rather than the battle system, though.

FFXIII-2 didn't really run into that problem so much since you could switch between Serah and Noel and the monsters are so specific that there wasn't really a point to directing them. I... I only found this out AFTER I fully completed the game (I don't know how) but in XIII-2, you can actually fine-tune the paradigms kind of like gambits. It's not as detailed as gambits in XII were, but you can specify whether the party should be aiming for just one target, all/many targets (-ga spells, blitz, etc.), or sticking with the default. It gives you more control over the party and I think, had I actually KNOWN about it, I would've had even more fun with the battle system than I did. @_@;;
I used to use both :3 It was meant you could cruise through normal battles without them becoming too stressful but if anything bad happened it was easily corrected. Most bosses had a kind of surprise/status spam move (the jungle monster thing?) which kept you on your toes not fully relying on the gambits.
I was overlevelled through most of the game, so I do remember not having to actually push buttons for a lot of it, but there were occasional boss fights that I had to pay attention for and the gambits just helped the flow of battle. Most major elements of the battle were still user-inputted so I don't really understand the hate.
I was caught out a few times, I guess they can't really give you a warning though otherwise it kind of ruins the point ><.
I think they do tell you when you're going into that mode, but when the warning came up, I usually wasn't looking expressly at the screen so I'd always miss it. Whoops. XD Sadly, the "get perfect on all timed cutscenes" trophy was actually one of the last ones I got.
X had many redeeming features (true character development choices, interesting summons, good sidequests, etc.) that I probably overlooked that :3 Also I played some of the early FF and like Tactics and other turn-based games anyway.
Ohh, right, that might be another reason I didn't like FFX so much. I uhh... went the wrong way on the sphere grid with like half my party. XD I hated Black Mages for SO MANY YEARS because I thought they were horrible until I realized that I'd sent Lulu through like... Wakka's section of the grid when I played X. I was replaying X to see if I'd like it more last summer but my disc is scratched on the cutscene just before Rikku joins the party so I didn't get far enough in to appreciate it this time. ;_;

CarefulWetPaint
May 8th, 2012, 03:21 PM
I guess the problem is I only played it for like 10 hours. (Pretty sure thats still tutorials my god the game is huge!) I dunno, I guess I just wasnt very good at it.. Might have to go back and revisit it sooner or later if I have time. I did find the combat system lacking a bit though.. thought that problem seems to fix itself late game (Why didnt I just stick with it.. Oh thats right the combat system was doing my head in.)

I honestly cant even remember If I had a cut scene in which I had to press buttons >.< I was more interested in just watching the cut scenes (They are amazing <3).

Lightning you were overleveled? Lucky you Im pretty sure I was underleveled because I remember just a random encounter beating me down from full health in the scrap yard place. I know I am a noob.. just.. okay!?

And Swift, I certainly don't remember XIII having any button pushing element in the combat at all, am I remembering it incorrectly..?

@Lightning,
Did you try to polish the disk.. that usually works for me..

Cherrim
May 8th, 2012, 03:28 PM
I guess the problem is I only played it for like 10 hours. (Pretty sure thats still tutorials my god the game is huge!) I dunno, I guess I just wasnt very good at it.. Might have to go back and revisit it sooner or later if I have time. I did find the combat system lacking a bit though.. thought that problem seems to fix itself late game (Why didnt I just stick with it.. Oh thats right the combat system was doing my head in.)

I honestly cant even remember If I had a cut scene in which I had to press buttons >.< I was more interested in just watching the cut scenes (They are amazing <3).
Yeah, I don't think the tutorial ends until like 20 hours in if you're speeding through. XD; A little before you hit Gran Pulse, you're out of the tutorial, but that's such a long ways off. (I mean, it's not "literally" the tutorial, but it may as well be since it locks your parties/leader up until then.)

Button-pushing is just in XIII-2, so there shouldn't be anything in XIII. :P
Lightning you were overleveled? Lucky you Im pretty sure I was underleveled because I remember just a random encounter beating me down from full health in the scrap yard place. I know I am a noob.. just.. okay!?
I was definitely overlevelled in the beginning and then I got disillusioned with how long the tutorial was and got bored, so I started skipping battles everywhere and I was definitely underlevelled for almost all of chapter 11. But then I decided I really wanted Fang as a Synergist and had to powerlevel to get enough CP to give her Haste before the end of the game. @_@; I think I'd maxed out crystarium before I went to take on the last chapter.
@Lightning,
Did you try to polish the disk.. that usually works for me..
Yeah. ;_; I can borrow another copy off friends but mine is kaput. (It also lagged something fierce on some of the FMVs which I didn't even know was possible, haha.)

CarefulWetPaint
May 8th, 2012, 03:46 PM
Yeah, I don't think the tutorial ends until like 20 hours in if you're speeding through. XD; A little before you hit Gran Pulse, you're out of the tutorial, but that's such a long ways off. (I mean, it's not "literally" the tutorial, but it may as well be since it locks your parties/leader up until then.)

Button-pushing is just in XIII-2, so there shouldn't be anything in XIII. :P


I didnt think there was any button pushing in XIII, if there was I probably would have enjoyed it more! :P.

I was definitely overlevelled in the beginning and then I got disillusioned with how long the tutorial was and got bored, so I started skipping battles everywhere and I was definitely underlevelled for almost all of chapter 11. But then I decided I really wanted Fang as a Synergist and had to powerlevel to get enough CP to give her Haste before the end of the game. @_@; I think I'd maxed out crystarium before I went to take on the last chapter.


How did you even get overleveled? I had heaps of trouble even leveling up! Am I to much of a noob or..? Do you have any secrets to share?


Yeah. ;_; I can borrow another copy off friends but mine is kaput. (It also lagged something fierce on some of the FMVs which I didn't even know was possible, haha.)

Take it to the video shop (or similar) and ask if they can clean it with their professional cleaner (if they have one). And unless the disk is scratched on the top it should be finee

Cherrim
May 8th, 2012, 04:03 PM
How did you even get overleveled? I had heaps of trouble even leveling up! Am I to much of a noob or..? Do you have any secrets to share?

Take it to the video shop (or similar) and ask if they can clean it with their professional cleaner (if they have one). And unless the disk is scratched on the top it should be finee
I think I'd fight every single enemy in every area and, since I didn't have much time to play it every night at first, then I would save and do the same thing the next night before continuing on with plot because I think enemies respawned if you quit the game.

I don't think I liked FFX enough to go pay someone to fix it for me. I'll just borrow or emulate it if I wanna play again. XD;

CarefulWetPaint
May 8th, 2012, 04:17 PM
I think I'd fight every single enemy in every area and, since I didn't have much time to play it every night at first, then I would save and do the same thing the next night before continuing on with plot because I think enemies respawned if you quit the game.

I don't think I liked FFX enough to go pay someone to fix it for me. I'll just borrow or emulate it if I wanna play again. XD;

I was kinda killing everyone I saw though! But my people always seemed fairly weak.. Did I not upgrade them properly..? Or give them the right weapons..? Ugh I am such a noob 10 hours of gameplay usually gets you a decent way through a game and gives you knowledge but i still feel like im clueless about this >.< *So much hate for slefs noobness*

Haha! Cheapppp! It doesnt even cost that much!

Cherrim
May 8th, 2012, 04:19 PM
I was kinda killing everyone I saw though! But my people always seemed fairly weak.. Did I not upgrade them properly..? Or give them the right weapons..? Ugh I am such a noob 10 hours of gameplay usually gets you a decent way through a game and gives you knowledge but i still feel like im clueless about this >.< *So much hate for slefs noobness*

Haha! Cheapppp! It doesnt even cost that much!
Upgrading shouldn't be a problem at that point. :/ So long as you're putting points into the role you have them using most of the time, you should be fine. Whereabouts are you? Which chapter/who are you stuck with right now? :P

CarefulWetPaint
May 8th, 2012, 04:28 PM
Upgrading shouldn't be a problem at that point. :/ So long as you're putting points into the role you have them using most of the time, you should be fine. Whereabouts are you? Which chapter/who are you stuck with right now? :P

Oh I am pretty sure I gave up after I got beaten in the scrap yard as Lightning, Ill just check (It may have been after I beat a flying boss in a citadell or big building that was falling down.)

Oh. Nvm, my old xbox red ringed and I havent figured out how to put the old HDD into the new xboxes (damn it.) I'll just have to start off again if I want to. (There goes 10 hours of my life I'll never get back.)
Maybe I'll just youtube all the cutscenes considering thats all I was really interested in anyway!

Sakura Rain
May 8th, 2012, 05:42 PM
hahaha i am back tremble in fear of fangirling of BbS/Ven and walls of text

spoiler: BBS
Well, I mean. I can see what they're trying to say but it's a stretch because none of that was Ven's fault. Like, I joke about everything being Terra's fault but at least he made a lot of dumb decisons that got him to where he is. What did Ven do? His heart reached out to wherever it could in self-defence because otherwise he'd die. How is it his fault that Sora's heart reached out right back? :(

spoiler:BbS
omg i know right and Sora wouldn't have just let him die like that even though he didn't know him but Sora is just a sweetheart okay but I guess the point they were trying to make is that a bunch of stuff (X-blade, death of Eraqus but that was Eraqus' own damn fault, okay)wouldn't have happened without Ven and I'm not completely certain Sora would've even got the keyblade without the presence of Ven's heart and gah. how could you wish death on Ven he's so sweet I just asdfjkl.

spoiler:3D
Oh my god. I don't even like Axel/Lea all that much but that was such an amazing scene. He like... totally stole the game with it. It was hilarious right after that where everyone keeps going "AXEL!" and he keeps trying to correct them and finally he's just like "You know what? Nevermind. Axel is fine. Whatever. ~_~" Haha, aww, Lea, it is going to take ages for anyone to call you that, I'm sorry.

Can I just insert here that I hate that the English games changed the pronunciation of Lea. >:O It's supposed to be Lee-ah and that's how I say it and NONE OF MY IRL FRIENDS EVER KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT if I don't say "Lea". I mean, I guess I get that Leah is a girl's name but who cares. ;_; It's not like KH doesn't have a Riku and a Rikku so who cares what the names sound liiiike.

spoiler:KH3D
omg i know I was freaking out because I thought Sora was about to be turned into a Xehanort and then SUDDENLY LEA. and Mickey and Riku are like "wtf axel" and it was funnnnny to my hurting brain, okay. lol, they're just so used to Axel and tbh it does fit him a bit more than Lea XD

omg me too I always pronounce it like that and all my irl friends are going "lol that's a girl's name" and I'm like "Welp why don't you take that up with the creator but that's his freaking name omg". and I don't think anybody actually says Rikku's name, do they? Idk why, but I'm assuming it's so all the little children don't get all ~confused omg~ about having two characters with the same name. BECAUSE YOU CAN TOTES CONFUSE RIKU AND RIKKU IF THEY'RE STANDING SIDE BY SIDE AM I RIGHT. jesus D;



Ven kind of takes everyone seriously. :(

Because he is a little sweetheart omg and he loves everyone except for MX and Vanitas.
spoiler:BbS
Look, anyone who doesn't run away screaming from the Hag!Queen in Dwarf Woodlands is far too trusting for their own good Ven hun we need to work on this D:

not actually a spoiler, just spoil'd to avoid stretching the page even more XD
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4739/ncomvsnii.jpg
Kind of a weird image but there's probably no better one for comparison about their size difference. Pretty much any screenshot from Re:COM shows off just how little she looks especially with Marluxia in it because he ups the creepy factor by about a million. So yeah, how anyone could think COM-era Namine is evil, I have no idea. ;_; I played KH2 only a few months ago but I don't really remember why DiZ changes his mind over everything. o_O;

Fun fact: I did not like pink at all before Marluxia became my favourite KH character. Now it is my favourite colour. Fun fact #2: I like to make up Pokémon teams for fictional characters. Any guesses as to why Cherrim is my favourite Pokémon? :D)

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD: MARLUXIA YOU CREEPY. sorry hun but it had to be said D8 and as far as I know, DiZ just shows up in TWTNW with his encoder-thing and he suddenly is all ~repentant omg~ and I'm like "well now you pulled a 180 now didn't you" and yeah. I'm going to say he just woke up one day, looked in the mirror and said "wtf."

we discussed this in vms and I got the mental image of Marluxia cuddling a Cherrim and I was like "awwwww...wait what no marulxia's mean ):"


I went through a horribly embarrassing yaoi phase (before I mellowed out and decided to ship ALL THE THINGS) so in a lot of fandoms I was in back then, I hated all of the females because they ~got in the way~ but I never really had that problem with KH. I liked Kairi a LOT when I played the first game and I thought Namine was so intriguing when I played COM that it just never even crossed my mind to dislike her. XD; There weren't really any other girls in the series at the time except Larxene, I guess, and she was a bad guy and I didn't pay attention to bad guys.


um as far as KH goes i still ship mostly yaoi and Ven/Nami does this make me a horrible person ;_; but I don't think I hated the KH girls because they ~got in the way omg~ I think it was because they just didn't do anything. But now I realize that at least as far as Kairi and Nami go they really couldn't do anything in KHI and CoM respectively. Kairi was in a lost-heart coma and Namine was essentially a prisoner omg. and larxene is a sadist omg and she sort of scares me ;__;

i'll just leave this here
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3oxkeBV1s1qzo7dyo1_400.png

jas;lkdghdslkfhsdglkfhksdfjdgidghdk;lfjdsklfhasd;lkghsd;lkfjsd ALL THE FEELINGSSSSSS OMG

spoiler: BBS, 3D, Days, pretty much everything now that I think about it
I always assume Braig was in it for a Keyblade too but... you'd think after like 10+ years he'd figure out that Xehanort wasn't going to give him one? o_O; Plus, it's Xehanort, so you know there's some kind of deception going on there. But why Braig would follow him for so long with so little reward... I just can't get my head around it. ;_;'

Isa makes me sad because what if he joined of his own volition? I mean, Saix and Axel are kind of split apart by the events of Days when Axel befriends Roxas and Xion and Saix is just like "wtf r u doing step away from the children". They're revealed to have plans to betray Xemnas, Axel pulls off all that crap at C.O. for Saix and then... ditches his best/oldest friend for two kids he's known for a month or two? Then Axel quits the Organization after he fails to bring Roxas back at the beginning of KH2 and Saix is stuck hunting him down. He's revealed to preeeetty much be the reason Axel dies as a Nobody (he beat him up which weakened him even before Axel goes all kamikaze on those Dusks in the In-Between) and almost vice versa, since Axel's the only reason Sora & Co. make it to TWTNW. So Isa could wake up as a Somebody again and be unable to think anything but "wow what a douche, I'm not gonna be his friend anymore what's the point in even going back to Radiant Garden". Depending on what YMX could have offered him... maybe he joined voluntarily. :( Or maybe he didn't know he'd be giving himself up if he joined him. I dunnnoooo.

(omg lol i nearly forgot to spoiler this)

spoiler: BbS, KH3D, Days
Perhaps revenge on the BbS trio? (or at least Terra, who shot darkness at him and took his eye out, remember?) that is literally the only reason I can think of besides him just being an ass atm. Even though I don't know when he thinks he's going to be able to ~get revenge omg~ because Terra is currently Xehanort's vessel (i mean i think he's still possessed, terranort wasn't among the Nortys in KH3D but he might have been one of the hooded figures), Aqua's in the RoD and Ven is in a lost-heart coma and he's hidden where no one can find him except for Aqua. idk this is probably just me trying to make everything about the BbS trio again lol.

That...does make me a little sad, omg. Well, remember, Roxas made Axel understand ~human emotions~ and he probably felt pretty strongly about Xion too. Maybe he just realized Saix was a lost cause and/or he thought Saix was going to hurt Roxas and/or Xion? i mean i think saix was a boss battle in days i can't remember omg S-so Saix beat Axel up? when did this happen omg. was this when Kairi "got away from him"? And are you talking about Isa thinking Lea is a douche? or Xehanort because the wording confused me i'm sorry omg. But um...well, Isa already has his heart back (i guess. This game gave me more questions than answers, asdfjkl) so idk what else YMX could've offered him. Maybe Isa's just an ass like Braig, lol. but he was such a cute kid. Isa I mean. Not Braig. Ewwwwww.

ohgod now I'm scared I'm going to accidentally leave something unspoilered and everyone will kill me especially onee-chan omg D;


spoiler: BBS, 3D, probably Days... let's just go with "everything" again
Yeah, I think that all checks out. Unless he meant Aqua? I'm iffy on what's going on with Terranort, especially if Xemnas and Ansem were both pulled from different timelines. All the other Nobodies came back, right? So Terranort would come back as Terranort, but if he wasn't already with YMX and the 'Norts, where is he? I can't imagine he would've just been one of the boring hooded figures. I can't remember who I assumed he was talking about. Sora for sure, but the other one is a little ambiguous.

I'm pretty sure Ven is ~safe~ because of where he is. C.O. is deliberately supposed to be a maze specifically to keep people from finding out its secrets, which was probably meant to refer to the fact that it was a haven for Keyblade Masters in training or something, but Ven is pretty much sitting on top of the world's keyhole so I don't think he can get any safer than he is. I'm fairly certain only Aqua and Namine can find her way to him, so unless she ever gives into the 'Norts (which she will not), no one can get to him. I think the disappearing imagery was supposed to be... uhh... actually I have no idea. I don't even remember that so maybe I should go watch it again. XD;

Remember, Axel was forced to search C.O. from top to bottom over and over during Days in search of the room Ven was in and he never found it. :P He may not have been the only one with those orders, either.

spoiler:BbS, KH3D

Idk how he possibly could've meant Aqua, she's never been controlled by a Xehanort so I think she's okay as far as that goes. Lurked around on some other forums and general consensus is that the two lights MX supposedly has/had under his control are Terra and Sora (only briefly) A couple of people theorized that MX might be counting Ven into his 13 Darknesses because ven is so incredibly dark i mean it just oozes off of him he's such a dark child AM I RIGHT jesus christ but I suppose MX could brainwash him or something. And that's just assuming he can even get to him, which I doubt unless he busts through the walls of CO like the Kool-aid man.people y u want ven to be evil HE ISN'T OMG and aqua made sure he was safely hidden wtf

spoiler: BBS
He can sleep when Sora sleeps! Heck, he can sleep almost all the time but he'd probably wake up and get distracted by Sora's mental flailing as he takes a test he probably goofed around for instead of studying.


spoiler:BbS
I JUST READ THE BEST FANFIC EVER
HERE IT IS~ (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5721138/1/One_More_Chain_to_Reconnect) ASDFJKL VEN IS SORA'S IMAGINARY FRIEND OMGOMGOMG DYING

spoiler:BBS
Aww, I liked that too. Although it confused the heck out of me and nearly made me yell at the screen because I never got a revive on that fight and I could've used it but then I noticed Terra's HP went full again and realized the creator was splicing videos. XD; Terra's VA was really good for battle sound effects and all. I was never distracted by that. It was just his sheer disinterest in any kind of story scenes that killed the mood for me. (Poor Aqua, though, every time she did/said ANYTHING in battle in the English version, I'd just cringe. "FIRE!" was the worst for me. Not sure why. Probably because I overuse Mega Flare.)

In the video, to his credit, Terra seems to have recognized that he was (sort of) fighting Ven and that's why he stopped. But he still fails the exam, extra credit or no. >:(

spoiler:BbS
and I was like "waaaaaait a minute, why on earth did he leave the dying part in" and then that happened and I was like "SK:DLHJFSD:LKFJSHDKG:FJLKGHSDLKFHDLKG:HDSKFJDS:KGHDSK:LFJ HEADCANON well, the war cry I am speaking of is at about 11:26 in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFpVnun32g0&feature=relmfu) and that was a story scene so the voice actor did do some stuff good. man oh man mega flare got nerfed between KHII and BbS holy crap. but my favorite spell ever is Ven's Faith omg and WINGBLADE IS THE BEST COMMAND STYLE EVER ASDFJKL well Terra does have sort of a soft spot for Ven so you'd think he would've noticed that earlier. Terra sweetie why is it so difficult to love you omg

spoiler:BBS
I sort of mentioned it above, but Terra could be the first one depending on what the status of Terranort is right now. (For all we know, maybe he came back, has amnesia all over again? I think he was faking it the first time, actually, and is currently destroying worlds all over as we speak.)

spoiler:BbS
I find the absence of Terranort very ominous. I mean surely Yen Sid/Mickey would realize that worlds were disappearing again, but maybe they were distracted by Sora and Riku's Mark of Mastery. and yes I believe that it is a fact that Terranort was faking his amnesia the first time idk if this means that MX is still in control or not asdfjkl

spoiler:BBS

I'm not sure they know the location of Ven's heart though. :O The only people who have ever seen Ven are Yen Sid, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Lea. And the only people who've met Roxas are Riku, Sora and Axel. I'm of the assumption that Lea/Axel doesn't remember Ven because they probably only met for like a day anyway and it was 10+ years ago so I can forgive him for that. So no one in the Ven camp knows that Roxas looks just like him and no one in the Roxas camp knows that he looks just like Ven. Oh, and I guess Tinker Bell has met both of them. So she and Lea are to blame for no one knowing what's up. (Actually, now that I think of it, Donald and Goofy saw that picture of Roxas that was taken in Twilight Town, I suppose. YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD LEAVE AN IMPRESSION WITH THEM SINCE VEN D-LINKED WITH THEM AND ALL BUT NOOO. damnit. [And Sora and Riku both met Ven in some capacity during 3D but never got his name or anything so they're off the hook too.])

spoiler:BbS

I believe in Re:coded's secret ending yes I remember Re:coded's secret ending but only because Ven was mentioned that Mickey said they had found/were close to finding Ven's heart or something along those lines. If they were talking about his body, it would be a moot point anyway because nobody can get to him except Aqua and possibly the aforementioned Kool-aidMan!Xehanort lol

...ARRRRRRRGHHHHH LEA REMEMBER VEN ALREADY AND CLEAR THIS ENTIRE MESS UP FOR US NOW PLZKTHNX. and Tink never talks anyway, so she can't help either asdfjkl. Yeah I was thinking about the Donald & Goofy thing and I think they're sort of in the same boat as Lea. They met the kid once ten years ago and never saw him again. Though he was friends with their king, and you know, kind of went to help Mickey in the Keyblade Graveyeard so you would think that would leave a lasting impression with them but nope. asdfjkl D&G THE PAIR OF YOU REMEMBER VEN ALREADY DAMMIT. or show mickey that picture of Roxas, he'll be able to make the connection and clear this mess up asdfjkl.


spoiler:BBS, Days
Actually, I wonder if Braig/Xigbar knows exactly where Ven is. o.o He would know that Xion was built as a reflection of Sora and whenever he looked at her, he saw Ven (not Roxas, he specifically recognized Ven). I wonder if he ever figured it out from that? It's possible he's withholding that information from Xehanort so that he has SOME sort of leverage over him. Maybe? I have no clue. He's pretty much the only person I can think of who would be able to know where Ven is, though.

spoiler:BbS
...the thought of Xigbar/Braig knowing where Ven is is terrifying omg. asdfjkl what if he's the reason ven disappears from the throne in BbSFM secret ending omg omg omg asdfjkl

spoiler: idk general stuff
Sora's a lot stronger than all of them seem to think. (In the physical sense and the... everything else, sense.) He's survived having his heart taken apart, rearranged, and put back together. He's survived turning into a heartless. He's been destroyed and converted to data more times than I can count. And he's rescued countless people without asking for anything in return. I think he'd want to know about what happened in the past if only so he could jump in his gummi ship immediately to go save them.

spoiler:if it's just general stuff why are we putting it in spoilers omg. and bbs spoilers
erm I just want to see it when he saves his big brotherVen omg I WILL DIE A MILLION DEATHS OKAY and Aqua will be adorable too but Terra is probably going to be all angsty and self-hating and honey, it's a bit too late for all of that asdfjkl.

spoiler: 3DS
I think that might be the part. Yes, I think it is, because then Sora goes "wait, what?" and Xemnas takes that as his invitation to do his really slow speech while Sora still stands there going "wait.... what!?" (And he can't even say, like "slow down!" becuase I don't think it is physically possible for Xemnas to talk any slower than he does. [I used to really hate Xemnas but now he's one of my favourite characters because every cutscene he's in is SO FUNNY because he's speaks so slowly and monotonously and overuses his thesaurus.]) Also the game made no sense on painkillers. That was not helped by the fact that at first, I was so insistent on playing with the 3D turned on despite never playing a 3DS before and I kept getting dizzy and motion sickness from it because KH is so action-oriented, so I could only ever play like 5 minutes at a time and I'd always forget what was happening aaaah. XD

spoiler:KH3D
Xemnas' cutscenes have always killed me :D he's just so ~serious omg~ and ~emotionless omg~ and it's fantastic okay and it just got so much better in KH3D asdfjkl. though I still don't like Xemnas himself because reasons

Hun, you really shouldn't have played it on painkillers D: I suppose you were just SUPER EXCITE OMG but idk how you understood anything asdfjkl. I never use the 3D on my 3DS precisely for that reason IT MAKES ME ALL SWIMMY-HEADED AND SICK AND OMG DX


You weren't kidding about the walls of text thing. o:

Well of course I wasn't, when have I ever lied XD

OMG Final Fantasy! I can post!

...now I feel bad for turning the entire club into ASDFJKL KINGDOM HEARTS. DX butbutbut I really don't know that much about FF I'm so sorry you guys ;___;

ToriSora
May 8th, 2012, 07:06 PM
...now I feel bad for turning the entire club into ASDFJKL KINGDOM HEARTS. DX butbutbut I really don't know that much about FF I'm so sorry you guys ;___;

Don't feel bad. KH rocks!

CarefulWetPaint
May 8th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Dont feel bad Sakura is just that we need to share it equally because this is a SE fan club not a KH fan club :S

But yes.. KH does rocks!

Do you like that you see some FF characters in the KH series?? Did you even realise that they were FF characters when you first saw them in KH?

Cherrim
May 8th, 2012, 07:56 PM
I usually feel like the only person who doesn't typically like the FF characters in KH because they're only ever used as plot devices. Only one done well was Zack in BBS. (Although Aerith's had her moments--I think I just say that because I like her though. u_u;;) Oh, and the Moogles are great.
Oh I am pretty sure I gave up after I got beaten in the scrap yard as Lightning, Ill just check (It may have been after I beat a flying boss in a citadell or big building that was falling down.)

Oh. Nvm, my old xbox red ringed and I havent figured out how to put the old HDD into the new xboxes (damn it.) I'll just have to start off again if I want to. (There goes 10 hours of my life I'll never get back.)
Maybe I'll just youtube all the cutscenes considering thats all I was really interested in anyway!
Oh, that area's pretty tough, I think. Especially the boss. :(

I don't think you can use old HDDs with new Xboxes. ;_; That suuucks.
spoiler:BbS
omg i know right and Sora wouldn't have just let him die like that even though he didn't know him but Sora is just a sweetheart okay but I guess the point they were trying to make is that a bunch of stuff (X-blade, death of Eraqus but that was Eraqus' own damn fault, okay)wouldn't have happened without Ven and I'm not completely certain Sora would've even got the keyblade without the presence of Ven's heart and gah. how could you wish death on Ven he's so sweet I just asdfjkl.
spoiler: BBS, 3D
Eh, it wouldn't have happened precisely that way but MX obviously wouldn't have just given up if BBS didn't pan out the way he wanted. <_< He just would have found someone else to try the X-blade stuff with.

I think KH3D confirmed that Sora doesn't actually own a Keyblade, he just uses Ven's. XD;
spoiler:KH3D
omg i know I was freaking out because I thought Sora was about to be turned into a Xehanort and then SUDDENLY LEA. and Mickey and Riku are like "wtf axel" and it was funnnnny to my hurting brain, okay. lol, they're just so used to Axel and tbh it does fit him a bit more than Lea XD

omg me too I always pronounce it like that and all my irl friends are going "lol that's a girl's name" and I'm like "Welp why don't you take that up with the creator but that's his freaking name omg". and I don't think anybody actually says Rikku's name, do they? Idk why, but I'm assuming it's so all the little children don't get all ~confused omg~ about having two characters with the same name. BECAUSE YOU CAN TOTES CONFUSE RIKU AND RIKKU IF THEY'RE STANDING SIDE BY SIDE AM I RIGHT. jesus D;

spoiler: 3D
I can associate "Lea" just fine with BBS!Lea but when he's just Axel minus the face tattoos... nope. XD; It might help if he loses the Organization jacket but I'm not sure.

Yeah, I don't think they ever say Rikku but her name is in the journal, I guess. But she and Riku are practically twins in looks and personality anyway, so, I guess that's why they never outright say her name. It would be sooo confusing, you'd never be able to tell them apart. :( :(

spoiler:BbS
Look, anyone who doesn't run away screaming from the Hag!Queen in Dwarf Woodlands is far too trusting for their own good Ven hun we need to work on this D:
spoiler: BBS
AT LEAST HE DIDN'T AGREE TO WORK FOR HER. TERRA, LOOKIN' AT YOU AGAIN. (I mean, I guess at least when Terra spoke to her, she was a queen but still. SAME PERSONALITY.)
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD: MARLUXIA YOU CREEPY. sorry hun but it had to be said D8 and as far as I know, DiZ just shows up in TWTNW with his encoder-thing and he suddenly is all ~repentant omg~ and I'm like "well now you pulled a 180 now didn't you" and yeah. I'm going to say he just woke up one day, looked in the mirror and said "wtf."

we discussed this in vms and I got the mental image of Marluxia cuddling a Cherrim and I was like "awwwww...wait what no marulxia's mean ):"
.__. It's true. Marluxia is super creepy. There is no getting around that, haha. though i get creepy points too because I actually ship Marluxia/Namine. Although now I have a much better otp for her so that's good.

he would have a cherrim and he would totally pretend that he didn't like it at all to save face but it would secretly be his favourite.
wow this is really old when the hell did i draw this
http://pics.livejournal.com/cherrim/pic/001gq8dx/s320x320
um as far as KH goes i still ship mostly yaoi and Ven/Nami does this make me a horrible person ;_; but I don't think I hated the KH girls because they ~got in the way omg~ I think it was because they just didn't do anything. But now I realize that at least as far as Kairi and Nami go they really couldn't do anything in KHI and CoM respectively. Kairi was in a lost-heart coma and Namine was essentially a prisoner omg. and larxene is a sadist omg and she sort of scares me ;__;
not at all! I only mentioned the yaoi thing because it's the only reason I can think of that I thought girls in fandoms were ~IN THE WAY~ and that's just such a dumb reason for disliking characters. xD; My KH OTP (Marluxia/Axel whee) is stil m/m so I can't very well judge hahaha. It disappoints me how most of the KH girls are treated in canon since they're all great characters and they have so much potential but they rarely get to do anything so everyone just hates on them. And I can understand that, I just wish they could DO more. ;_; It's why I like Aqua so much. Instead of being the damsel or just messing around with things when she wasn't supposed to, she was the ONLY SUPER CAPABLE ONE in her trio. <3 Larxene is a crazy ***** and I love her for it but she is not a people person and she actually isn't all that capable but at least she never once lies about which side she's on, so she's one of the few KH characters who you can see right through. That's kind of refreshing. XD
spoiler: BbS, KH3D, Days
Perhaps revenge on the BbS trio? (or at least Terra, who shot darkness at him and took his eye out, remember?) that is literally the only reason I can think of besides him just being an ass atm. Even though I don't know when he thinks he's going to be able to ~get revenge omg~ because Terra is currently Xehanort's vessel (i mean i think he's still possessed, terranort wasn't among the Nortys in KH3D but he might have been one of the hooded figures), Aqua's in the RoD and Ven is in a lost-heart coma and he's hidden where no one can find him except for Aqua. idk this is probably just me trying to make everything about the BbS trio again lol.

That...does make me a little sad, omg. Well, remember, Roxas made Axel understand ~human emotions~ and he probably felt pretty strongly about Xion too. Maybe he just realized Saix was a lost cause and/or he thought Saix was going to hurt Roxas and/or Xion? i mean i think saix was a boss battle in days i can't remember omg S-so Saix beat Axel up? when did this happen omg. was this when Kairi "got away from him"? And are you talking about Isa thinking Lea is a douche? or Xehanort because the wording confused me i'm sorry omg. But um...well, Isa already has his heart back (i guess. This game gave me more questions than answers, asdfjkl) so idk what else YMX could've offered him. Maybe Isa's just an ass like Braig, lol. but he was such a cute kid. Isa I mean. Not Braig. Ewwwwww.

ohgod now I'm scared I'm going to accidentally leave something unspoilered and everyone will kill me especially onee-chan omg D;

spoiler: Days, 3D, BBS
Yeah, maybe it is just revenge on Terra. And petty revenge on MX for being indirectly responsible for the loss of Braig's eye. XD; Though now you've reminded me that Braig possibly knows where Aqua is, too. So he might have ALL THE ANSWERS and is just biding his time with them until the information helps him. Hmm.

Omg I was reading through the secret journals from Days last night and came to the conclusion that Marluxia is really dumb but that's not why I'm bringing this up, I just had to complain about it >:| and awww Axel's tranformation over the course of the game. ;_; The beginning he's like "ugggh stuck babysitting the boring comatose kid" then "haha i've been eating ice cream with comatose kid. he's kinda dumb but it's endearing" then "so i finally came back from C.O. and everyone's looking at me funny and why is Roxas friends with Xion????" then "Oh, I get why he's friends with Xion. She's pretty okay" then "OMG Xion's a puppet? Does this mean I'm not friends with her?" then "I don't care what Saix says. Xion is my friend." then "Xion found out and she ran away. I hope she comes to her senses because I don't wanna be sent to take her out." then "gdi now Roxas is mad at me too but I can't tell him why I had to attack Xion *flail*" then ";_; roxas left today." And somewhere in there he gives Roxas advice for dealing with girls and his journal entry is just like "I think it went right over his head. Knowing them, they're fighting about something dumb anyway." lmaooo But aww Axel. :(

I think he and Saix just drifted. They couldn't joke around or anything, which I imagine bothered Axel because he likes to make light of a lot of things (and Isa, in BBS anyway, seemed to joke around too). Saix never saw Xion as anything but a figure with hood up all the time, so he thought Axel was just crazy. He wasn't making any bonds with people so he never got a heart remade (or whatever the heck happens) and he just didn't understand why Axel was acting as if he was friends with Roxas & Xion. Especially Xion. But yeah, the novels always reveal a little more information than the games in some places and in between Axel's appearance in Radiant Garden (where Saix shows up a moment later and he bolts) and when he sacrifices himself for you, there's a scene where Axel's talking to Namine after Saix nearly takes him out and she helps fix him up, he opens the portal for her to TWTNW so she can save Kairi, and then he goes to find Sora. Or something like that--I don't remember the exact details since I don't own this book and I don't even remember when/where I would've read the translation. XD; (I love the novels though, since they also reveal that the Grey Room [where you get your missions and stuff in Days] is actually named "The Garden of Intertwining Light and Darkness" which is just SUCH A XEMNAS NAME for a room. Must drive the rest of the Organization crazy whenever he mentions the name of a room in the castle because they're all so pretentious and long and confusing. Xemnas, I'm sorry. I can't take you seriously.)

I meant Isa thinks Lea/Axel/whatever is a douche. :( I mean, his last thoughts were probably something like "it's totally Axel's fault that I never got my heart back" and next thing he knows, he's waking up on the floor somewhere with a heart so maybe he got the same thoughts and got the pain/hurt that would come with it and went "NOPE, NOT WORTH IT" and joined Xehanort again or something. ;_;

I have to hit "preview" like a million times before I'm sure I've gotten all of them every time. XD
spoiler:BbS, KH3D

Idk how he possibly could've meant Aqua, she's never been controlled by a Xehanort so I think she's okay as far as that goes. Lurked around on some other forums and general consensus is that the two lights MX supposedly has/had under his control are Terra and Sora (only briefly) A couple of people theorized that MX might be counting Ven into his 13 Darknesses because ven is so incredibly dark i mean it just oozes off of him he's such a dark child AM I RIGHT jesus christ but I suppose MX could brainwash him or something. And that's just assuming he can even get to him, which I doubt unless he busts through the walls of CO like the Kool-aid man.people y u want ven to be evil HE ISN'T OMG and aqua made sure he was safely hidden wtf
spoiler: 3D, BBS
Well, I was thinking more that he didn't recruit Aqua or anything, but he was kind of the cause for her being sealed away in the Darkness, so she can't be used as a Light so long as she's out of the picture. But maybe the cutscene was more "you can't use [this person] because I have [them] on MY side" rather than just "you can't use [this person] because [they] are not here". I'll have to go watch that scene again. I guess the second one wouldn't make much sense or else he'd talk about Ven that way too and there'd be an extra number added onto his tally. :s But unless he could merge Ven and Vanitas back together, I don't think it would be physically possible for Ven to be one of the 13 Darknesses so people just don't know what they're talking about. XD Besides, even if he could merge them, why bother when Vanitas is pure Darkness as it is??
spoiler:BbS
I JUST READ THE BEST FANFIC EVER
HERE IT IS~ (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5721138/1/One_More_Chain_to_Reconnect) ASDFJKL VEN IS SORA'S IMAGINARY FRIEND OMGOMGOMG DYING
spoiler: BBS
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE. It is adorable. I can just imagine little!Riku rolling his eyes and putting up with the greeting-Ven-everyday stuff. XD; And then like 6 years later, still doing it.
spoiler:BbS
and I was like "waaaaaait a minute, why on earth did he leave the dying part in" and then that happened and I was like "SK:DLHJFSD:LKFJSHDKG:FJLKGHSDLKFHDLKG:HDSKFJDS:KGHDSK:LFJ [I]HEADCANON well, the war cry I am speaking of is at about 11:26 in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFpVnun32g0&feature=relmfu) and that was a story scene so the voice actor did do some stuff good. man oh man mega flare got nerfed between KHII and BbS holy crap. but my favorite spell ever is Ven's Faith omg and WINGBLADE IS THE BEST COMMAND STYLE EVER ASDFJKL well Terra does have sort of a soft spot for Ven so you'd think he would've noticed that earlier. Terra sweetie why is it so difficult to love you omg
spoiler: BBS
Wow I didn't even remember that. I think that's better than the Japanese one, actually. :O

Mega Flare was in KH2? XD I did not even know this, lmao. Don't think I ever used it. My favourite spell in BBS that wasn't boring was Magnet Square. *u* Was good for crowd control and usually owned bosses who were too dumb to jump around it. Boring attacks would be Magnega + Thundaga. Magnega owned pretty much anything and it was a powerful enough spell that even Terra could use it to kill things. I felt really lame by the end of all my files since I'd just go to Neverland and use it over and over again to max out my abilities and commands. XD; Ignite was pretty hax too since you can actually set Vanitas on fire in most of his fights and he just slowly loses health while you avoid him. Made him SO easy at the end of Terra's game wow. (And my strategy with Aqua against that giant Heartless was just to set it on fire... though I kind of had to be cheap since it's hard to experiment with other things when you're level one... 8D;) Also Wingblade was waaaay better than Aqua or Terra's final styles. :( The Darkness one makes me grr because it's so annoying when it's used against me and it's hard to control and ugggh I hate Ghost Drive. It slows you down slightly and it's really disorienting to fight with because the noise it makes when you do anything (especially dodge!) is horrible and the finisher takes so long and concentrates on just the one spot so if you miss or kill the thing before the finisher ends, it's a waste of time. ;_; But Ven's is just plain fun. XD Pulled that out of strikethroughs and made it a paragraph because YAY RAMBLING ABOUT BBS BATTLE MECHANICS and then making it easier to read.
spoiler:BbS
I find the absence of Terranort very ominous. I mean surely Yen Sid/Mickey would realize that worlds were disappearing again, but maybe they were distracted by Sora and Riku's Mark of Mastery. and yes I believe that it is a fact that Terranort was faking his amnesia the first time idk if this means that MX is still in control or not asdfjkl
spoiler: 3D, BBS
Terranort always confused me since he SEEMS to totally have amnesia, but he also pushes all the apprentices into studying the heart and, eventually, getting rid of them. In all his appearances, he just never really gave me the same vibe that MX ever did. But then the first scene of 3D is Terranort talking to Braig and then taking his heart with MX's Keyblade? So MX must be in control at that point or else Terranort wouldn't be able to use the Keyblade. :s But then, is MX in control now? I feel like Terranort can't be one of the hooded figures in 3D because they wouldn't pass up a chance to show him off but I don't know what he'd be up to otherwise. Unless Terra came back and has no idea where he is or where he's supposed to go/how to get off whatever world he's on. (His Keyblade and Armour are still back at the Keyblade Graveyard. Maybe he is just stranded somewhere. XD)

Honestly, I liked it better when I assumed Terranort always had amnesia since it meant Xemnas and Ansem had amnesia which meant the whole time Xemnas was searching for a Keyblade user, Xigbar was sitting there pointedly not telling him that Xemnas could use a Keyblade himself. But 3D kind of ruined that, aww.

I don't really get why it was important that Sora and Riku become Keyblade Masters RIGHT THIS MINUTE anyway. Couldn't it have waited until the threat was gone? I know Aqua learnt some important things only after becoming a Master but is there anything like that that Riku needs to know now? :/

Sora should wait and retake his Mark of Mastery when Ven takes it. The army of Soras should all take it at the same time.
spoiler:BbS

I believe in Re:coded's secret ending yes I remember Re:coded's secret ending but only because Ven was mentioned that Mickey said they had found/were close to finding Ven's heart or something along those lines. If they were talking about his body, it would be a moot point anyway because nobody can get to him except Aqua and possibly the aforementioned Kool-aidMan!Xehanort lol

...ARRRRRRRGHHHHH LEA REMEMBER VEN ALREADY AND CLEAR THIS ENTIRE MESS UP FOR US NOW PLZKTHNX. and Tink never talks anyway, so she can't help either asdfjkl. Yeah I was thinking about the Donald & Goofy thing and I think they're sort of in the same boat as Lea. They met the kid once ten years ago and never saw him again. Though he was friends with their king, and you know, kind of went to help Mickey in the Keyblade Graveyeard so you would think that would leave a lasting impression with them but nope. asdfjkl D&G THE PAIR OF YOU REMEMBER VEN ALREADY DAMMIT. or show mickey that picture of Roxas, he'll be able to make the connection and clear this mess up asdfjkl.

spoiler: BBS, Coded
I only ever saw that once and it was on Youtube so I was sort of trying not to watch it since I was so ashamed that I didn't earn it myself. (I never once watched the secret movie of KH2FM [the trailer for BBS] until a few days before the game came out since I hadn't beaten Terra's Armour yet so Youtubing an ending was kind of a big deal for me. xD) But yeah, I guess that does make sense but... wtf. I don't get how they can be "close" to finding Ven's heart (or his body for that matter). o_O What are they using to sense/find it? Does that mean they theorize that it's in Sora but just can't confirm it? I don't get iiiit. T_T; It might make more sense if they mean his body but I don't see how they could be any closer to finding that, really.

xD; I have a crack RP based on the Organization with some of my high school friends and we brought TAV back into it. Ven met Axel and was all "OMG LEA HI I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN SO LONG :DDD" and Axel was like "uhh I don't even know you" and Ven was just like "I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS. HOW CAN YOU NOT REMEMBER ME. YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMORE". I will be disappointed if that doesn't happen in canon. (Although hopefully Ven won't be in a princess dress in the canon version. I did say it was a crack RP.) I think Donald and Goofy should still remember him at least somewhat. They met him twice, I think. Ven goes to talk to Yen Sid once... doesn't he? I mean, he has to D-Link with them sometime before the end of the game but I don't remember exactly when that is. I think it's right before Ven goes back to LoD so Eraqus can be a jerk? Anyway, they meet him then and become his friends (although I guess that's not really saying much because Ven becomes friends with everyone that he's happened to know for 5 minutes). But. Then after the confrontation in Keyblade Graveyard, Aqua and Ven are brought back to Yen Sid's tower. I don't understand how Ven wouldn't have made an impression then. :/ They would've watched him sleeping and watched Aqua leave with him. How can they not remember him after something like that? They would've been right there for any discussion Yen Sid & Mickey had while Aqua and Ven were unconcious AND probably and Master-to-Master conversations that Aqua had with Yen Sid before she left. And you'd think they would tell Sora about "that other Keyblade wielder" they met at least once on their journeys. Maybe they did and Sora didn't know what to do with the information, then forgot about it in COM, and then Namine missed that chain when she was putting him back together lmao. Only explanation? ;_;
spoiler:BbS
...the thought of Xigbar/Braig knowing where Ven is is terrifying omg. asdfjkl what if he's the reason ven disappears from the throne in BbSFM secret ending omg omg omg asdfjkl
spoiler: BBS
noooo ven! ;_; W-well even if Xigbar knows where he is, he doesn't know how to get to him so. It should be okay.
spoiler:if it's just general stuff why are we putting it in spoilers omg. and bbs spoilers
erm I just want to see it when he saves his big brotherVen omg I WILL DIE A MILLION DEATHS OKAY and Aqua will be adorable too but Terra is probably going to be all angsty and self-hating and honey, it's a bit too late for all of that asdfjkl.
spoiler: well, I meant general series spoilers. wait, are we conversing in these too? how do we even manage???
Oh god, Terra's gonna be absolutely untolerable for a while after he comes back. :/ Think all the emo guilt that Riku had during COM and multiply it by a bazillion because at least Riku just messed things up for a few months and in like 3 worlds. Terra nearly caused the collapse of everything ever.
spoiler:KH3D
Xemnas' cutscenes have always killed me :D he's just so ~serious omg~ and ~emotionless omg~ and it's fantastic okay and it just got so much better in KH3D asdfjkl. though I still don't like Xemnas himself because reasons

Hun, you really shouldn't have played it on painkillers D: I suppose you were just SUPER EXCITE OMG but idk how you understood anything asdfjkl. I never use the 3D on my 3DS precisely for that reason IT MAKES ME ALL SWIMMY-HEADED AND SICK AND OMG DX

spoiler: Days
I have giggle fits whenever he appears on screen, you don't understand. He's all serious about everything and he's trying to talk about how he's taking over the worlds and obtaining Kingdom Hearts and using people all over the place and ruining everything and I'm just laughing uncontrollably the whole time. :( Haha, in the very first cutscene of Days, it's pretty much just him giving a speech about Roxas (or is it Xion? Whatever, same speech). It sort of pans around at all the Organization members and Demyx is soooo falling asleep during it. XD; They all totally know that they can tune him out the whole time and the only thing they'll miss is "KINGDOM HEAAAAARTS".

I shouldn't have, but I wasn't very well going to let the game sit there for a week. :( (It took me a few days, but I did eventually turn the 3D off and I was okay from then on, at least. Well, for physically playing, anyway. Nothing helped understand half those cutscenes. [This is probably why we talk about things from 3D and I'm just like "wait what?" XD])
...now I feel bad for turning the entire club into ASDFJKL KINGDOM HEARTS. DX butbutbut I really don't know that much about FF I'm so sorry you guys ;___;
Still debating splitting this club, hmm. 8/ But where would the other Square-Enix stuff go?? I mean it's pretty much KH/FF central but TWEWY comes up sometimes. And maybe someone, somewhere will eventually want to talk about Dragon Quest idk (lol). And "Square-Enix Except For KH Club" is pretty lame. XD;

ToriSora
May 8th, 2012, 08:27 PM
*Waits for someone to mention Legend of the Seven Stars*

Cid
May 8th, 2012, 09:04 PM
I don’t reply in this club for a few days and what do I find? Wall of text fodder.
I’ll try to make a brick wall then, starting from the first post I didn’t reply at. Apologies if your scroll button gets agoraphobic! I'll just have to increase the scroll space a little more.
I JOIN PLZ????

I was a member of the last KH SE FC and yeah, Saku-chan told me about there being a new one~ May I please partake in discussions/fangirling/ avoidance of spoilers pertaining to Dream Drop Distance? Which I need a 3DS for
Oh I remember you! I assume you don't remember me but I do, I think you were really active in the KH club back then. And *goes to check* I was right, we actually had a conversation once two and a half years ago. Please you are absolutely encouraged to partake in whatever you will! And I'm actually still saving up for a 3DS this very moment, getting one precisely for KH3D. :3

I'm gonna start marking my spoilers with what's spoilered since they aren't even all KH3D spoilers by this point so there are some parts of conversation that other people can jump into as well.
Oh good, it's actually a brilliant idea to label which games the spoilers are for, so that if you've already played that certain game, you can peek. Or at least know what specific game you'll just be spoiling yourself with, haha.

Also... KH is kind of taking over the general S-E thread and I feel like that must be alienating people. :( It's mainly just that 3D is out and we're speculating but it's not like other S-E games haven't been coming out too. Is this tolerable for everyone or should we maybe be looking at splitting up the club back into FF and KH separately? /flinging idea
That is a huge problem, I don't want to alienate people at all! But yes 3D is largely increasing the KH-centric activity. I'm actually starting to consider going back to separate clubs, I'll make sure to be active in both of them and force encourage people to do so too! There's actually tons of things to talk about FF, now that I think of it. But there are dedicated TWEWY fans or maybe even Dragon Quest fans and they'd get left out if we go splitting the club into its major components so I don't know.

The laughs are always what get me, haha. ;_; I know it's just to make it loose and not so serious sounding but it also sounds like he's just brushing it off, aww.

spoilers for: KH3D
I'm pretty sure Vanitas will be one of the 13 Darknesses somehow. I mean, he pretty much literally is darkness and I can't see MX passing him up. Who knows, maybe we'll find out that MK managed to extract Vanitas from Sora (assuming Vanitas became a part of him too? I was under the assumption he did) while Sora was asleep in his grasp so he could show up again.

And he reminds you of Voldemort because YMX almost literally splits off his soul every time he does that time travel thing and there are like 20 versions of him right now that just won't die. XD;
I always thought he does that whenever the interviewer gives him a weird look with his Nomura answers. Yes he has trademark Nomura answers that tease more than clarify pretty much. But yeah, I don't want him to brush off something as huge as BBSv2!

spoilers for: KH3D, BBS and Days
I actually was under the impression that Vanitas immediately approached Xehanort (inside Terranort) when he was defeated by Ven in his final battle. Kinda parallel to Ven approaching kid!Sora and taking rest in his heart. I dunno, maybe that's why he appeared beside YMX for a split second when he was talking to Sora (which was also shown in the trailers either as first or last segments for two of those).

Actually that brings me to a point, when KH3D was not yet released in Japan, I saw YMX (which sort of represents Xehanort) as a parallel to Sora, and he kinda pointed it out in that scene, or at least that's what I got out of their conversation. They sort of both harbor many hearts within them, like Ven, Roxas and Xion in Sora while there's Terra (I think) and Vanitas in Xehanort. Is that point even significant in the actual game though? Or in the future of the series?

Namine just had more to do in the games than Kairi, so she got more development by default. :( It kinda sucks since I like Kairi a lot too but
spoilers for: KH3D
Hopefully she'll get something to do in KH3! Now that I think about it, maybe they only tossed her in as a Keyblade Wielder so that they could use her as the tutorial or something. XD; Still okay with it!

Yeah, Lea's creepy very nearly overpowered Sora's weirdness in that scene. @_@ It's a really strange ending, lmao. I would hate to wake up to that! Poor Riku.
Yeah, and Namine had more decisions, both life and game changing, to make in her appearances that effectively give way for development. Kairi was just handled wrong imo, and it really does suck. I don't even know why I like Kairi anymore, but I still do.
spoilers for: KH3D
There is hope, though! I want her to get more of a role and it seems that with the whole secret ending centering on her possible development, she can actually do much more this time. Yeah maybe they'll make another Roxas like 7-days scenario for Kairi, but this time with her narrating what's happened so far in her point of view while training with the Keyblade or something. That would be awesome! Even better if she maintains a huge role throughout. People might get turned off though with another draggy lengthy tutorial for them, but not me.

So true. I'm surprised Riku didn't call foul.

I would've been fine with Roxas/Namine if they'd done something with them in Days. They had the chance to make it so they met somehow and it would help explain why they suddenly decide to be friends at the end of KH2 and it'd explain their connection but they didn't do that so they had no connection which is why it was disappointing. :(

spoilers for: re:coded, BBS
This is true! I know she had to have found something about TAV locked away in Sora's heart. It would be kind of adorable if she found out from Ven. Although, if that's the case, how'd she know about Terra and Aqua? o_O; Their fates were decied after Ven fell asleep, mostly. Ven might have some idea that Aqua saved him and set him to rest in what became C.O. but it was after she left him that she found Terranort and fell into the Darkness trying to save him. Hmm.

She supposedly has power over people who are close to Sora, too, so maybe the original trio counted with that? She was able to erase the memory/idea of Sora from mostly everyone's head until Sora came back, right? Maybe that extended to absolutely everyone who'd come in contact with him. I think Aqua considered passing on the Keyblade to Sora for a moment until she realized that Terra had already done that to Riku so maybe that left enough of an impression that Namine had access to her heart/memories and could piece things together from there? But then you'd think she (and DiZ?) would have tried to get that message across in a better way than just hacking extra data into Jiminy's paper-journal. (Square-Enix, I don't think diaries work the way you think they work.) Instead they left a cryptic message on the last page that explains nothing and the true meaning was only found after making data!Sora play through a crappy game. >:O

Then again, BBS just added all sorts of plotholes-that-when-you-thing-about-them-makes-everyone-seem-like-a-jerk. 'Cause Mickey and Yen Sid would've known all about TAV too, and they never said a thing about them to Sora/Riku, lmao. ;_;
That is a prime example of how many wasted plotlines, short events and directions they could've taken for Days but just didn't. I wish they allowed more headcanon into Days, not much time in between the illustrated days within the game to place events that one would have like to happen, like what you just described. I really wished that happened. But since it didn't and I can't convince myself to think it did, I don't like Roxas being paired with Naminé.

spoilers for: Re:Coded, BBS
Right, Ven telling her wouldn't have made much sense. He knew nothing about what happened to Terra and Aqua. Your explanation makes more sense, actually, with her powers and all, and if this is the case, I think only Naminé knew about TAV. I don't even think DiZ was in Re:Coded. But yes, it is a shame this had to pave way for a sub-par game, maybe Naminé knew she had no other way of meeting Sora and simply imitated the "Thank Naminé" note to inform her because she couldn't think of anything better, haha. And it's part of KH-- messing with in-betweens and pasts to cause plotholes like that. Maybe King Mickey and Yen Sid were waiting for the right time? I mean in Re:Coded's secret ending they seemed really intentionally secretive on discussing the whereabouts of TAV, maybe they thought Sora would be too reckless and get killed trying to save Aqua and co.

spoilers for: 3DS. like. massive spoilers. all the end-game bosses. XD
It's hard to describe until you play it.

As with most KH games, once you hit the last world, everything starts going crazy and plot lines you didn't even know were a thing start wrapping up and the inevitable "WTF IS GOING ON???" begins. Sora wanders through the City That Never Was and has to take on Xemnas. Right after the fight, they drop him off to sleep "for good" and it's all up to Riku. Riku starts off in the Castle That Never Was and fights his way up it and takes on Ansem, only to find out that he was in Sora's dream the whole time. (I think this was how that part went?) From there, he wakes up back in the City That Never Was an has to make his way to the Castle again. Once he gets there, Sora's about to be turned into a mindless puppet of darkness. Riku has to put an end to YMX before MX can revive and do the deed. There, you get the awesome YMX/MF fight with time travel and series throwbacks and it's just epic. The scene after it has all the epic that a closing scene in KH should, too. Sora's about to die, Lea shows up and saves the day, and it's Riku and Mickey and Lea and Donald and Goofy against the bad guys and you're sitting there going "WOW THIS IS A REALLY SATISFYING ENDING". The YMX fight is pretty tough and frustrating (as was the Ansem fight for me, haha, my Riku was so underlevelled ;_;) so now you're just glad it's over so you can watch the ending go by.

...and then it's not over. You get out of there and Sora's still sleeping. So Riku has to dive into him to wake him up and... wait. W-why are we fighting Ven? Why is he controlled by darkness? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN TO HIM? NO. BAD. BAD SERIES. The fight isn't too difficult but it's not exactly a walk in the park either. :( It just felt very out of place. I look back on it now and like the idea of it, and I feel it was appropriate story-wise and all, but gameplay-wise it was kind of anti-climatic and tacked on. So that's where all the complaints come from, I think. It just... after the epicness of the fights up to this point, it sort of made all of them lose a bit of importance just because there were so many. Or something.

Really? I... I didn't think Re:Coded had good gameplay at all. XD; They took the command system from BBS so I went in expecting great things but it didn't port very well to the DS and I found the controls difficult and I just... I dunno. I wasn't very good at it, and I just chalked it up to bad controls/gameplay because I'm never not good at a KH game. But I also pretty much advised all my friends to not bother with the game unless they "needed" to play it, so I don't really know anyone who could confirm my assumption. XD; That game made me so worried about KH3D because it uses the command system too but they made it all better for 3D.

But yeah, you are literally the only person I know who actually liked (and not just "tolerated" Re:Coded). XD;

massive spoilers for: KH3D
Oh God I should prepare myself for a completely confusing late game once again. I agree that I should play it first but you actually describe it pretty well. It all sounds like the climax kept happening within those cutscenes around the YMX fight. Everything that's acting like a short burst of climax after that, when you're expecting everything to fall into their places like any good plot, would indeed feel tacked on. So I guess having yet another boss that doesn't even explain itself before the fight (and touches on, seemingly, an evil Ven of all things) would be pretty disappointing. On the other side of this, I sure do prefer a full-on battle, instead of just a cutscene of Riku fighting dark Ven armor-slash-Sora, even if it feels tacked on. I don't want another Roxas TWTNW cutscene, haha.

It actually felt fresh, the platforming was sort of cool, the BBS + Days fusion was okay, but honestly, I don't know why I enjoyed it enough. Haha, maybe I just wasn't that serious of a KH gamer and just liked its uniqueness and random quirks, like the huge references to KH, the random but drastically different mini-games and being a bad copy of COM and such. Well, to each his own, I suppose. I actually wouldn't mind just knowing the plot of Re:Coded and opting not to play it, haha.

I'm the only person? I don't know what that says about me, haha.

I think the Osaka team is the BBS team which did 3D and is probably working on other stuff. They've renamed all the teams since they started work on FF13VS so I don't even know what's up anymore, but I know whichever team previously worked on KH is working exclusively on VS now. So one would think they'd be the same team.

I think Osaka might be mostly handheld games? Honestly, though, if they'd just get a freakin' move on with KH and let the Osaka team handle the numbered sequel, I'd be absolutely okay with it. >:|

It actually might've been easier to read that way but I already started with quotes so... /continues D8
Oh is that so? What happened to the numbered KH team, whatever they were called? I always thought Osaka = console KH and other teams = spinoffs but I think I'm mixing them up. Gah this is all confusing.

Oh haha I guess that made it more inconvenient. I still think that post would have been too lengthy because I had both yours and Sakura's posts quoted for almost every '@' you can see there. But yeah. My apologies.

This would not surprise me at all. They also said they weren't making a BBSFM. It came out one year later.

"Ven, I thought you were supposed to get all the colours before going back to start. You're missing green though..."
"Uhhhh there's this... special rule, where if you go Red, Blue and Yellow in that order, you don't have to go get Green. You just get... uhhhh... less points. Yeah."

spoilers for: uhh... Days and BBS
...and since everyone in Sora's heart is gullible as heck, they would all nod, think it made lots of sense, and that would be the new rule.
Man what is up with the false info they're feeding us? But yeah, FMs are easy money for them, so if they're not busy they might as well earn some more dough from the same title. Just don't include a false secret ending this time. Or better yet, apply the rule for easy money to BBSv2! :D

That is so AI Ven, in all his dumb and adorable glory. And I agree with what's inside the spoiler tag, haha.

spoilers for: BBS
Don't forget that he also took off Ven's shirt around the time of blank-eyes Ven when he went to go dump him in Destiny Islands! :D I... I still never did figure out why that was necessary. (And I often forget about it because if you select a new game and skip the tutorial, I think it skips that scene too. Nooothing can top the sheer confusion when I started up the game for the first time and suddenly there was an Organization member with a shirtless dead-looking Roxas in DI. It was so WTF-worthy.)

Marluxia had no heart and I'm of the opinion he didn't try very hard to get it back or pretend he did have one or anything like that. So when he was using Namine, he didn't feel bad or good about it, he just used her like a tool because she was the easiest way to get what he wanted. That's not okay, but DiZ had a heart and feelings and would have had to look at Namine every time he gave her orders and go "oh wow, I am abusing this girl who looks younger than 14; but if I remind myself she has no heart, it's TOTALLY OKAY." So I think that makes it a lot worse. (Honestly, in my last post, I think I completely forgot about the fact that Marluxia had no heart when I was trying to justify why I didn't mind his actions but hated DiZ's. Wooow. /fail XD)

spoilers for: KH3D
I mean, to be fair, 3D kind of steps all over the original definition of a Nobody so they kind of built up hearts in the end anyway but I still feel like Marluxia never bothered making connections to people and doing the whole "caring" thing to get one.

Anyway! Yeah I hated Riku in KH1, didn't like him in COM (probably for his horrible gameplay--MAKE YOUR OWN DECK, CHILD, STOP USING RANDOM CARDS), and thought he was an idiot in KH2. As a rule, I really do not like angsty characters, so he's always just bugged me. I... I warmed up to him a lot in KH3D, though. :( He wasn't angsty and he was legitimately making up for his mistakes and he succeeded and went above and beyond in capability and...

...>_<; By the end of it, I think I didn't mind him much at all. I mean, he'll still probably never be anywhere near my favourite characters list, but I got a lot of development at the end of KH2 to now and he's become a lot more likeable. (Guys this is kind of a big step for me, to admit that I don't hate Riku anymore. Wow.)
spoilers for: BBS
Man that scene was the epitome of bizarre. What was Nomura thinking? So much fridge logic right there. I mean how can MX end up with a half-naked zombie Ven without doing the creepy? Indeed, WTF-worthy.

I actually found that pretty fitting for his character. The fact that he was a Nobody freed him from any conscience that could halt his plans. But DiZ is entirely different, and yes he is really awful for doing all that to her without thinking twice.

spoilers for: KH3D, BBS, Re:Coded and Days, too, I guess
I still don't completely understand this bit they added with the Nobodies in KH3D. Do they actually suggest that Nobodies grow their own hearts? So restored people like Lea get to have two hearts or just one combined heart? Or do they slowly sap away from the old heart in their Heartless when they connect and bond and stuff? So confusing.

I never actually really liked Riku until the later spinoffs. My brother liked Riku from the start but me, I've always been more of a Sora guy. I'm pretty okay with angsty characters but yeah Riku was just mildly likeable because he had some cool moments throughout the KH1 - KH2 storyline and boasts and absolutely beautiful yet kick-ass Way to Dawn. But as I said the later spinoffs made me like him more. BBS with his cute speech talking to Terra and Aqua, Re:Coded with the huge role of Jiminy's Journal/Data Riku, and Days with just being a cooler guy in the blindfold than in KHII. And KH3D will probably continue on with the trend, and you being a former Riku hater then warming up with him signifies that. Is it okay for me to say that I'm happy you don't hate him anymore? :3

spoilers for: KH3D
Y-yeah. I can see that. (Although omg I don't even remember Riku in Re:Coded LMAO. I was listing the games I disliked him in above and went "wait, wasn't he in Re:Coded? But I only remember Sora. Oh well.") Pretty much any time something happened in either Sora or Riku's worlds during the game that affected the other person's version, they'd get all dreamy-eyed and look up toward the heavens with trust and joy and friendship in their eyes and I was just like "omg stop that please". XD; I didn't come out of the game shipping it, but I guess coming out of the game not hating Riku was a big enough step for me! Maybe by the next one. :P

"No you're not! Everyone's a somebody. His tone turned indignant, as if he was insulted by how little she thought of herself." OH MY GOD. ;_; HE WOULD. HE WOULD BE LIKE IN TEARS AND THEN THINK SOMEONE ELSE WAS SAD AND JUMP TO COMFORT THEM. dying. i definitely ship this now. so hard. (And then later "Call me Ven!"... that's our wifi password in this house hahaha. XD;)

I always wondered what happened with Sora and how he treats Kairi for him to no longer care as much. Since KHII the games have slowly turned into a big "heck yeah we agree with what [most of] you fans really want" for the inseparable duo, Sora and Riku. And I'm actually slowly accepting this as part of the franchise, even though I'll probably still be cringing with what you described there Lightning, haha.

I actually loved that one-shot fic, thank you for sharing it Sakura. :D
I needed more reasons to love Ven (definitely my favourite character in BBS), and I actually feel like playing BBS one more time now and enjoy it much more, haha.

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...I give up. Too many replies to make. ;-;

Oh yeah, Super Mario RPG! That was made by Square. So I want to talk about that. Has any of you played that game? I assume you have, Tori. I'm actually playing the game right now. Maybe you want a sequel (like me) or just find some specific part of the game interesting, or if you haven't checked it out yet then just say what you think about it.

Sakura Rain
May 8th, 2012, 10:02 PM
Don't feel bad. KH rocks!

Dont feel bad Sakura is just that we need to share it equally because this is a SE fan club not a KH fan club :S

But yes.. KH does rocks!

Do you like that you see some FF characters in the KH series?? Did you even realise that they were FF characters when you first saw them in KH?

Thank you dears~ i am so sorry omg asdfjkl

Well, Sephiroth in the first KH threw me for a loop. Even though I think he was FM only and as such I probably saw this on youtube He's creepy, he just shows up out of nowhere and doesn't talk or anything, he just fights omg. And Cloud in KHI was...well, the first thing I thought about him was "WTF IS HE WEARING" and then I had to fight him i think? I might be mixing this up with CoM asdfjkl and gah. Cloud what happened to all of your character development omg. But by KHII he's all better. Somewhat. and omg Aerith <3 I love her, she's amazing XD and then there's squall leon and he's awesome as usual and gah I can't express all my feelings for the FF characters or this will be my longest post ever and that is saying something

BUT. My favorite FF character in KH and my favorite FF character overall is ZACK SKDLGHSDL:KFHSDGLKFJSLDKHFKSDHG:LKSDFJHSDLKFHSKL:GHSD:KFJSDK I HAVE ALMOST AS MANY FEELS FOR ZACK AS I DO FOR VEN OKAY I just asdfjkl the only game I've bawled more over than BbS is Crisis Core because

spoiler: Crisis Core
THAT ENDING WORST ENDING TO ANY GAME EVER SLKDHFSD:KLFSDHGKFJASLKD:HDGSDKFJ I WAS BAWLING OKAY THEY SHOT HIM IN COLD BLOOD AND ONE OF THEM STOOD OVER HIM AND SHOT HIM IN THE HEAD SLKDFJSDK

God. So there are my shortened because this is going to be a loooooong post anyway feelings about Zaaaaaack. <3


I usually feel like the only person who doesn't typically like the FF characters in KH because they're only ever used as plot devices. Only one done well was Zack in BBS. (Although Aerith's had her moments--I think I just say that because I like her though. u_u;;) Oh, and the Moogles are great.

Oh, that area's pretty tough, I think. Especially the boss. :(

I don't think you can use old HDDs with new Xboxes. ;_; That suuucks.

ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK OHGOD DON'T GET ME STARTED AGAIN ASDFJKL AND AERITHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OMG SKLFHSD:KLFJSDKGH:DLKFJSDKGDJF ZACKXAERITH OTP

I wish I could play FFXIII. lol Saku doesn't own a xbox nor a ps3 so she is inherently fail


spoiler: BBS, 3D
Eh, it wouldn't have happened precisely that way but MX obviously wouldn't have just given up if BBS didn't pan out the way he wanted. <_< He just would have found someone else to try the X-blade stuff with.

I think KH3D confirmed that Sora doesn't actually own a Keyblade, he just uses Ven's. XD;

spoiler:BbS, KH3D
I seem to recall Vanitas saying they could use Aqua as a back-up plan. am i the only one who wants Vanitas to get lost somewhere and be promptly mauled by wild dogs asdfjkl. but the problem would be finding someone with a heart of pure darkness. Idk, would Vanitas still live if Ven died? I really hope that he would die omg but I don't want Ven to die either asdfjkl.

...wait a minute. waaaaaaaaait a minute. There is a obvious dilemma here. so when Ven wakes up, does that mean Sora won't be able to use the Keyblade anymore? ;____;


spoiler: 3D
I can associate "Lea" just fine with BBS!Lea but when he's just Axel minus the face tattoos... nope. XD; It might help if he loses the Organization jacket but I'm not sure.

Yeah, I don't think they ever say Rikku but her name is in the journal, I guess. But she and Riku are practically twins in looks and personality anyway, so, I guess that's why they never outright say her name. It would be sooo confusing, you'd never be able to tell them apart. :( :(

spoiler:KH3D
That thing is pretty useful though. It protects the heart from darkness, doesn't it? So I doubt he'll ditch the thing. Then again, I thought he'd never ditch his chakrams, but apparently he's going to replace them with his keyblade. omg THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT THREW ME FOR A LOOP OMG. I was like "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?" like Sora and Riku and everyone else omg XD

And besides I think it's pronounced differently in japanese. I KNOW THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME OMG didn't you know rikku got possessed by xehanort once? IT'S TRUE TOTALLY LEGIT. :/ really we're not all idiots asdfjkl

spoiler: BBS
AT LEAST HE DIDN'T AGREE TO WORK FOR HER. TERRA, LOOKIN' AT YOU AGAIN. (I mean, I guess at least when Terra spoke to her, she was a queen but still. SAME PERSONALITY.)

spoiler:BbS
...TERRA SWEETIE IT IS GETTING MORE DIFFICULT TO DEFEND YOU. well let's see. I don't think Terra was actually going to kill Snow White but I don't know why he went to find her in the first place then. something about MX and princesses and light? Idk it's been far too long since I've played BbS omg


.__. It's true. Marluxia is super creepy. There is no getting around that, haha. though i get creepy points too because I actually ship Marluxia/Namine. Although now I have a much better otp for her so that's good.

...hun what on earth possessed you to ship marulxia/nami? DID XEHANORT DO IT. VENXNAMI OTP. butbutbut ZACKXAERITH OTP butbutbut SORIKU OTP ASDFJKL

he would have a cherrim and he would totally pretend that he didn't like it at all to save face but it would secretly be his favourite.
wow this is really old when the hell did i draw this
http://pics.livejournal.com/cherrim/pic/001gq8dx/s320x320

so so so he would like cuddle with it at night and then during the day he would completely neglect it omg ;; kasdhg;dslkfjklsdhfkjgka your drawings are the best drawings asdfjkl

not at all! I only mentioned the yaoi thing because it's the only reason I can think of that I thought girls in fandoms were ~IN THE WAY~ and that's just such a dumb reason for disliking characters. xD; My KH OTP (Marluxia/Axel whee) is stil m/m so I can't very well judge hahaha. It disappoints me how most of the KH girls are treated in canon since they're all great characters and they have so much potential but they rarely get to do anything so everyone just hates on them. And I can understand that, I just wish they could DO more. ;_; It's why I like Aqua so much. Instead of being the damsel or just messing around with things when she wasn't supposed to, she was the ONLY SUPER CAPABLE ONE in her trio. <3 Larxene is a crazy ***** and I love her for it but she is not a people person and she actually isn't all that capable but at least she never once lies about which side she's on, so she's one of the few KH characters who you can see right through. That's kind of refreshing. XD

O-okay, because I know some of the fandom jumps on the yaoi fangirls for supposedly "making the fanbase look insane" but I'm not a crazy yaoi fangirl I swear ;; and I think that's the main reason why everyone hates on the KH girls, they just haven't done anything. yet. EXCEPT FOR AQUA ASDFJKL SWEETHEART <3 as I've previously mentioned, Larxene scares me asdfjkl. and really? She isn't a people person? NOOOOOO. I'd never have guessed! XD well at least she isn't like xehanort, where you have no idea what he's doing and then juuuuuust when you think you've got him figured out, he jumps on you and

spoilers: BbS
shatters your heart and makes your darkness become a person omg

spoiler:BBS
Yeah, maybe it is just revenge on Terra. And petty revenge on MX for being indirectly responsible for the loss of Braig's eye. XD; Though now you've reminded me that Braig possibly knows where Aqua is, too. So he might have ALL THE ANSWERS and is just biding his time with them until the information helps him. Hmm.

spoilers: BbS
you know how I am though, always having to insert the BbS trio into everything so maybe he has a different reason :/ omg he better not touch either aqua or especially ven or I will murder him viciously omg. I mean at least Aqua can defend herself, Ven is still in a lost-heart coma and can't defend himself at all. lol ven is the damsel in distress XD The point still stands that even if he knows where Ven is, there's no way he can get to him. So I think we're okay there but idk maybe they'll just try to destroy CO with Ven in it. I wouldn't put it past MX, the prick.

spoilers: Days, 3D, BBS
Omg I was reading through the secret journals from Days last night and came to the conclusion that Marluxia is really dumb but that's not why I'm bringing this up, I just had to complain about it >:| and awww Axel's tranformation over the course of the game. ;_; The beginning he's like "ugggh stuck babysitting the boring comatose kid" then "haha i've been eating ice cream with comatose kid. he's kinda dumb but it's endearing" then "so i finally came back from C.O. and everyone's looking at me funny and why is Roxas friends with Xion????" then "Oh, I get why he's friends with Xion. She's pretty okay" then "OMG Xion's a puppet? Does this mean I'm not friends with her?" then "I don't care what Saix says. Xion is my friend." then "Xion found out and she ran away. I hope she comes to her senses because I don't wanna be sent to take her out." then "gdi now Roxas is mad at me too but I can't tell him why I had to attack Xion *flail*" then ";_; roxas left today." And somewhere in there he gives Roxas advice for dealing with girls and his journal entry is just like "I think it went right over his head. Knowing them, they're fighting about something dumb anyway." lmaooo But aww Axel. :(

I think he and Saix just drifted. They couldn't joke around or anything, which I imagine bothered Axel because he likes to make light of a lot of things (and Isa, in BBS anyway, seemed to joke around too). Saix never saw Xion as anything but a figure with hood up all the time, so he thought Axel was just crazy. He wasn't making any bonds with people so he never got a heart remade (or whatever the heck happens) and he just didn't understand why Axel was acting as if he was friends with Roxas & Xion. Especially Xion. But yeah, the novels always reveal a little more information than the games in some places and in between Axel's appearance in Radiant Garden (where Saix shows up a moment later and he bolts) and when he sacrifices himself for you, there's a scene where Axel's talking to Namine after Saix nearly takes him out and she helps fix him up, he opens the portal for her to TWTNW so she can save Kairi, and then he goes to find Sora. Or something like that--I don't remember the exact details since I don't own this book and I don't even remember when/where I would've read the translation. XD; (I love the novels though, since they also reveal that the Grey Room [where you get your missions and stuff in Days] is actually named "The Garden of Intertwining Light and Darkness" which is just SUCH A XEMNAS NAME for a room. Must drive the rest of the Organization crazy whenever he mentions the name of a room in the castle because they're all so pretentious and long and confusing. Xemnas, I'm sorry. I can't take you seriously.)

I meant Isa thinks Lea/Axel/whatever is a douche. :( I mean, his last thoughts were probably something like "it's totally Axel's fault that I never got my heart back" and next thing he knows, he's waking up on the floor somewhere with a heart so maybe he got the same thoughts and got the pain/hurt that would come with it and went "NOPE, NOT WORTH IT" and joined Xehanort again or something. ;_;

I have to hit "preview" like a million times before I'm sure I've gotten all of them every time. XD

spoilers: Days, BbS...erm... KH3D
hun are you just now figuring that out XD jkjk. So basically, Axel's journal entry on Roxas and girls is this

http://i46.tinypic.com/2h5v4uu.jpg

So I was thinking about this the other day. Saix and most of the Organization see Xion with her hood up, right? So if her hood were to be removed in front of them, from their point of view...what would they see? Black-haired Kairi? Roxas? Ven? Nothing? i just asdfjkl.

S-so nobodies get new hearts or they grow new ones or they get their old ones back? Idk, when that cutscene revealed the fact that Nobodies can in fact have hearts I started freaking out and stopped paying attention. because come on it's xemnas talking about it anyway am i right XD

Oooookay. I think that was also in the manga yes I actually read the manga I'm sorry okay D; but I wasn't sure if it was considered canon.

and asdfjkl that is totes a xemnas name asdfjkl No one on earth takes Xemnas seriously anymore, don't worry about it hun.


spoiler: 3D, BBS
Well, I was thinking more that he didn't recruit Aqua or anything, but he was kind of the cause for her being sealed away in the Darkness, so she can't be used as a Light so long as she's out of the picture. But maybe the cutscene was more "you can't use [this person] because I have [them] on MY side" rather than just "you can't use [this person] because [they] are not here". I'll have to go watch that scene again. I guess the second one wouldn't make much sense or else he'd talk about Ven that way too and there'd be an extra number added onto his tally. :s But unless he could merge Ven and Vanitas back together, I don't think it would be physically possible for Ven to be one of the 13 Darknesses so people just don't know what they're talking about. XD Besides, even if he could merge them, why bother when Vanitas is pure Darkness as it is??

spoiler:3D, BbS
I think that was what was being implied. That so and so can't be a Light because I have them, therefore so and so will be a Darkness. But I'm also pretty sure that Yen Sid said that the Seven Lights were chosen naturally, so you can't just substitute someone in; if Terra is one of the Lights, then supposedly they can't replace him and they're just going to be short one light. I think this is what's up. I think so okay ;; god this game is so confusing asdfjkl.

spoiler: BBS
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE. It is adorable. I can just imagine little!Riku rolling his eyes and putting up with the greeting-Ven-everyday stuff. XD; And then like 6 years later, still doing it.

spoiler:BbS
I WAS DYING AT THE FIRST OCCURRENCE OF THE WORD "VENVEN". and well of course he would put up with it or Sora would cry and no one likes it when Sora cries ;;

spoiler: BBS
Wow I didn't even remember that. I think that's better than the Japanese one, actually. :O

Mega Flare was in KH2? XD I did not even know this, lmao. Don't think I ever used it. My favourite spell in BBS that wasn't boring was Magnet Square. *u* Was good for crowd control and usually owned bosses who were too dumb to jump around it. Boring attacks would be Magnega + Thundaga. Magnega owned pretty much anything and it was a powerful enough spell that even Terra could use it to kill things. I felt really lame by the end of all my files since I'd just go to Neverland and use it over and over again to max out my abilities and commands. XD; Ignite was pretty hax too since you can actually set Vanitas on fire in most of his fights and he just slowly loses health while you avoid him. Made him SO easy at the end of Terra's game wow. (And my strategy with Aqua against that giant Heartless was just to set it on fire... though I kind of had to be cheap since it's hard to experiment with other things when you're level one... 8D;) Also Wingblade was waaaay better than Aqua or Terra's final styles. :( The Darkness one makes me grr because it's so annoying when it's used against me and it's hard to control and ugggh I hate Ghost Drive. It slows you down slightly and it's really disorienting to fight with because the noise it makes when you do anything (especially dodge!) is horrible and the finisher takes so long and concentrates on just the one spot so if you miss or kill the thing before the finisher ends, it's a waste of time. ;_; But Ven's is just plain fun. XD Pulled that out of strikethroughs and made it a paragraph because YAY RAMBLING ABOUT BBS BATTLE MECHANICS and then making it easier to read.

spoilers: BbS
asdfjkl i know. I didn't remember it either till I watched the Sora vs Lingering Sentiment video and i heard that scream and I was like "WTF DID THAT COME FROM?" and yeah fantastic okay.

I think it was in KHII. I know it was in some game before BbS and that it got nerfed in BbS. omg omg every time I fought Vanitas I would set him on fire because I HATE VANITAS, OKAY and it was so fun omg. Love love loveBbS battle mechanics, it's easily the best in the series as far as that goes <3 omg omg i know right wasn't Ghost Drive the one where you teleported everywhere? and god Dark Impulse I DON'T LIKE YOU took me foreverrrrrr to kill Terranort because of you asdfjkl. Wingblade definitely wins asdfjkl.


spoiler: 3D, BBS
Terranort always confused me since he SEEMS to totally have amnesia, but he also pushes all the apprentices into studying the heart and, eventually, getting rid of them. In all his appearances, he just never really gave me the same vibe that MX ever did. But then the first scene of 3D is Terranort talking to Braig and then taking his heart with MX's Keyblade? So MX must be in control at that point or else Terranort wouldn't be able to use the Keyblade. :s But then, is MX in control now? I feel like Terranort can't be one of the hooded figures in 3D because they wouldn't pass up a chance to show him off but I don't know what he'd be up to otherwise. Unless Terra came back and has no idea where he is or where he's supposed to go/how to get off whatever world he's on. (His Keyblade and Armour are still back at the Keyblade Graveyard. Maybe he is just stranded somewhere. XD)

Honestly, I liked it better when I assumed Terranort always had amnesia since it meant Xemnas and Ansem had amnesia which meant the whole time Xemnas was searching for a Keyblade user, Xigbar was sitting there pointedly not telling him that Xemnas could use a Keyblade himself. But 3D kind of ruined that, aww.

I don't really get why it was important that Sora and Riku become Keyblade Masters RIGHT THIS MINUTE anyway. Couldn't it have waited until the threat was gone? I know Aqua learnt some important things only after becoming a Master but is there anything like that that Riku needs to know now? :/

Sora should wait and retake his Mark of Mastery when Ven takes it. The army of Soras should all take it at the same time.



spoiler:KH3D, BbS

Or maybe that first scene in KH3D is when all his memories came back. Idk, has it ever been officially stated that Apprentice Xehanort was in fact faking amnesia?

See, that's what I thought too. I was looking at all the Nortys and I thought "...wait a minute. Where's Terranort?" I thought that maybe he might have been sent somewhere else. Like he's Organization Norteen's secret weapon, of sorts, and maybe they're like hiding him? OR MAYBE THEY SENT HIM TO KILL THE LINGERING SENTIMENT OMG. well can you kill that thing though? I think it's just Terra's mind and memories and HATRED so idk how you would go about killing it. :/


spoiler: BBS, Coded
I only ever saw that once and it was on Youtube so I was sort of trying not to watch it since I was so ashamed that I didn't earn it myself. (I never once watched the secret movie of KH2FM [the trailer for BBS] until a few days before the game came out since I hadn't beaten Terra's Armour yet so Youtubing an ending was kind of a big deal for me. xD) But yeah, I guess that does make sense but... wtf. I don't get how they can be "close" to finding Ven's heart (or his body for that matter). o_O What are they using to sense/find it? Does that mean they theorize that it's in Sora but just can't confirm it? I don't get iiiit. T_T; It might make more sense if they mean his body but I don't see how they could be any closer to finding that, really.

xD; I have a crack RP based on the Organization with some of my high school friends and we brought TAV back into it. Ven met Axel and was all "OMG LEA HI I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN SO LONG :DDD" and Axel was like "uhh I don't even know you" and Ven was just like "I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS. HOW CAN YOU NOT REMEMBER ME. YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMORE". I will be disappointed if that doesn't happen in canon. (Although hopefully Ven won't be in a princess dress in the canon version. I did say it was a crack RP.) I think Donald and Goofy should still remember him at least somewhat. They met him twice, I think. Ven goes to talk to Yen Sid once... doesn't he? I mean, he has to D-Link with them sometime before the end of the game but I don't remember exactly when that is. I think it's right before Ven goes back to LoD so Eraqus can be a jerk? Anyway, they meet him then and become his friends (although I guess that's not really saying much because Ven becomes friends with everyone that he's happened to know for 5 minutes). But. Then after the confrontation in Keyblade Graveyard, Aqua and Ven are brought back to Yen Sid's tower. I don't understand how Ven wouldn't have made an impression then. :/ They would've watched him sleeping and watched Aqua leave with him. How can they not remember him after something like that? They would've been right there for any discussion Yen Sid & Mickey had while Aqua and Ven were unconcious AND probably and Master-to-Master conversations that Aqua had with Yen Sid before she left. And you'd think they would tell Sora about "that other Keyblade wielder" they met at least once on their journeys. Maybe they did and Sora didn't know what to do with the information, then forgot about it in COM, and then Namine missed that chain when she was putting him back together lmao. Only explanation? ;_;

spoiler:BbS, Coded
um um um. I think they're just throwing guesses out there because unless Mickey and/or Yen Sid turned into the Kool-Aid man and busted through CO, they're not any closer to finding Ven's body. And maybe for his heart...um...Mickey noticed how similar Sora and Ven are? They have a lot of the same mannerisms, they're both friendship freaks, etc...idk it just seems like a lot of wild guessing to me.

XDDDDDDD I JUST LOVE THAT IN YOUR HEADCANON WHENEVER VEN'S ANGRY WITH SOMEONE HE SAYS "YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMORE" AND I IMAGINE HIM SAYING THIS WITH HIS ~DEATH GLARE OMG~ KAFJ;SDLKFDHLKJKJGDKL [I]SWEETHEART what what what. ven totes needs to be in the princess dress because he is a princess am i right

Yes, that's right before the big fight scene at LoD and I am attempting to refrain from ranting about Eraqus because I've already done it in VMs, asdfjkl. And seriously Donald and Goofy you both are being stupid don't you remember the sleeping boy who looks exactly like roxas and the nice lady with blue hair asdfjkl. omg TOTES HEADCANON NAMI YOU DONE SCREWED UP LOL'ING FOREVER



spoiler: BBS
noooo ven! ;_; W-well even if Xigbar knows where he is, he doesn't know how to get to him so. It should be okay.

spoiler:BbS
;______________; but you know this series is known for throwing curveballs lol the entirety of KH3D so...I mean, even if Xigbar/Braig doesn't know where he is, Xehanort's awfully clever and he might figure out some way to locate Ven. look I don't want this to happen either but it might since Xehanort is a complete monster omg asdfjkl

spoiler: well, I meant general series spoilers. wait, are we conversing in these too? how do we even manage???


spoiler: because we are totes awesome am i right

spoiler: Days
I have giggle fits whenever he appears on screen, you don't understand. He's all serious about everything and he's trying to talk about how he's taking over the worlds and obtaining Kingdom Hearts and using people all over the place and ruining everything and I'm just laughing uncontrollably the whole time. :( Haha, in the very first cutscene of Days, it's pretty much just him giving a speech about Roxas (or is it Xion? Whatever, same speech). It sort of pans around at all the Organization members and Demyx is soooo falling asleep during it. XD; They all totally know that they can tune him out the whole time and the only thing they'll miss is "KINGDOM HEAAAAARTS".

I shouldn't have, but I wasn't very well going to let the game sit there for a week. :( (It took me a few days, but I did eventually turn the 3D off and I was okay from then on, at least. Well, for physically playing, anyway. Nothing helped understand half those cutscenes. [This is probably why we talk about things from 3D and I'm just like "wait what?" XD])

spoilers: Days
asdfjkl. He just gives this great booming speeches and the only thing anyone takes away from them is "KINGDOM HEAAAAARRRRRRTSSSS". Bless him. no wait don't bless him no no no I don't like xemnas and I think that was Xion, I'm not sure. been forever since I've played Days omg

Well, you at the very least should've left the 3D off. We wouldn't want you to get sick over a video game! -hugs- Hun, I didn't understand the majority of those cutscenes and I'm not even on anything asdfjkl. yeah that's probably why asdfjkl. Do you even remember the whole game XD

Still debating splitting this club, hmm. 8/ But where would the other Square-Enix stuff go?? I mean it's pretty much KH/FF central but TWEWY comes up sometimes. And maybe someone, somewhere will eventually want to talk about Dragon Quest idk (lol). And "Square-Enix Except For KH Club" is pretty lame. XD;

omg hun i'm sorry should i just shut up and stand in the corner omg

I don’t reply in this club for a few days and what do I find? Wall of text fodder.

asdfjkl I'M SORRY I ACCIDENTALLY TOO MANY OPINIONS D;

I actually loved that one-shot fic, thank you for sharing it Sakura. :D

You're welcome dear. That's one of my favorites XD

Magic
May 9th, 2012, 02:10 AM
...now I feel bad for turning the entire club into ASDFJKL KINGDOM HEARTS. DX butbutbut I really don't know that much about FF I'm so sorry you guys ;___;

Nooo don't worry! I'll just make sure to throw in questions and stuff that can related to both.

I usually feel like the only person who doesn't typically like the FF characters in KH because they're only ever used as plot devices. Only one done well was Zack in BBS. (Although Aerith's had her moments--I think I just say that because I like her though. u_u;;) Oh, and the Moogles are great.

I've only played KH1 and some of KH2 but that's exactly how I found the FF characters (and Disney actually) were used. Odd plot devices that were used as just extended cameos.

I know now there are a lot more original characters, but yeah I like my FF/Disney worlds separate ><.


Also, Destiny Demon could the opening post be changed to either make open questions or include a FF question? I had to rewrite these for my application.

Talking about these.

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
What two Keyblades would you double wield?
What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?
If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?

Cid
May 9th, 2012, 04:24 AM
@SwiftSign: Yeah I think if the SE club isn't broken into its components, having more general topics would do it good. Or at least a specific franchise topic should have its own appropriate counterparts.

Thank you dears~ i am so sorry omg asdfjkl
It's alright Sakura! Don't feel bad, we all love Ven and if we love a specific thing this much, I'm sure we'd all be willing to write amazing walls of text about it. :D

Well, Sephiroth in the first KH threw me for a loop. Even though I think he was FM only and as such I probably saw this on youtube He's creepy, he just shows up out of nowhere and doesn't talk or anything, he just fights omg. And Cloud in KHI was...well, the first thing I thought about him was "WTF IS HE WEARING" and then I had to fight him i think? I might be mixing this up with CoM asdfjkl and gah. Cloud what happened to all of your character development omg. But by KHII he's all better. Somewhat. and omg Aerith <3 I love her, she's amazing XD and then there's squall leon and he's awesome as usual and gah I can't express all my feelings for the FF characters or this will be my longest post ever and that is saying something

BUT. My favorite FF character in KH and my favorite FF character overall is ZACK SKDLGHSDL:KFHSDGLKFJSLDKHFKSDHG:LKSDFJHSDLKFHSKL:GHSD:KFJSDK I HAVE ALMOST AS MANY FEELS FOR ZACK AS I DO FOR VEN OKAY I just asdfjkl the only game I've bawled more over than BbS is Crisis Core because

spoiler: Crisis Core
THAT ENDING WORST ENDING TO ANY GAME EVER SLKDHFSD:KLFSDHGKFJASLKD:HDGSDKFJ I WAS BAWLING OKAY THEY SHOT HIM IN COLD BLOOD AND ONE OF THEM STOOD OVER HIM AND SHOT HIM IN THE HEAD SLKDFJSDK

God. So there are my shortened because this is going to be a loooooong post anyway feelings about Zaaaaaack. <3

ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK OHGOD DON'T GET ME STARTED AGAIN ASDFJKL AND AERITHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OMG SKLFHSD:KLFJSDKGH:DLKFJSDKGDJF ZACKXAERITH OTP
Sephiroth's actually also in the original KH. But yes he is creepy in the first one, even though I didn't like his voice actor there. And you do have to fight Cloud even though the outcome was pretty much the same, win or lose. I was already familiar with FFVII and Vincent Valentine back then so I knew the clothes referred to him (and I think it looks cool for him to be in this garb). But yeah KH, and even Dissidia, did throw away his character development. I thought he was the same in KHII, haha. Speaking of KHII, I was annoyed that Aerith sounded awful in it. I absolutely adore Aerith and she deserved a better voice actress than that (she did get one eventually, see Crisis Core). Leon was also pretty cool even though I never finished VIII, and I can say whatever character development he got in VIII, it certainly showed in the KH series since he seems less glum and more friendly.

Zack is indeed awesome. Crisis Core will never be the same if he weren't there.
And Aerith x Zack!

spoiler: Crisis Core
It was not the worst ending. I hated to see Zack die, oh I really did. ;-; I really wish he didn't but that's how FFVII went with things so I just dealt with it. It was still touching and almost fitting, the scenes before and during his death well-executed and dramatic. I almost couldn't watch when they got to that part, though!

I wish I could play FFXIII. lol Saku doesn't own a xbox nor a ps3 so she is inherently fail
We only recently got our XBOX 360 fixed, too, and I never got to play FFXIII before it became non-functional. At least I get to play it soon. Hope you somehow get to play FFXIII eventually, Sakura.

spoiler:BbS, KH3D
I seem to recall Vanitas saying they could use Aqua as a back-up plan. am i the only one who wants Vanitas to get lost somewhere and be promptly mauled by wild dogs asdfjkl. but the problem would be finding someone with a heart of pure darkness. Idk, would Vanitas still live if Ven died? I really hope that he would die omg but I don't want Ven to die either asdfjkl.

...wait a minute. waaaaaaaaait a minute. There is a obvious dilemma here. so when Ven wakes up, does that mean Sora won't be able to use the Keyblade anymore? ;____;

spoiler: BBS, KH3D
Yeah I think he did tell Aqua it never hurted to have her as a back-up. You're probably not alone there, but I personally like Vanitas. Maybe they'll split Aqua into two as well? Or use Larxene's somebody. I think he wouldn't die if Ven did, they pretty much have their own entities and hearts now.

Noooo I will not let that happen! Sora! Get your own Keyblade right now. D; Or at least if they do rid him, hopefully he only loses it momentarily and eventually gets his own. Unless my theory stands that the Keyblades Sora and Ven are using are different (Sora's is the Realm of Light's main Keyblade, he only while Ven's is just one of the Keyblades), if so then the only thing to worry about is if Sora on his own can eventually hold the Keyblade since Ven's no longer there to help him out.

spoiler:KH3D
That thing is pretty useful though. It protects the heart from darkness, doesn't it? So I doubt he'll ditch the thing. Then again, I thought he'd never ditch his chakrams, but apparently he's going to replace them with his keyblade. omg THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT THREW ME FOR A LOOP OMG. I was like "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?" like Sora and Riku and everyone else omg XD

And besides I think it's pronounced differently in japanese. I KNOW THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME OMG didn't you know rikku got possessed by xehanort once? IT'S TRUE TOTALLY LEGIT. :/ really we're not all idiots asdfjkl
spoiler: KH3D
I always thought the coat did nothing, but if it does then I guess that's why Mickey and Riku were using it or something. And the Lea getting a Keyblade thing surprised me too, but then it was apparently hinted in the trailers anyway and I failed to sense it at all, haha.

For a moment there I was unable to sense the sarcasm between you two. XD

spoiler:BbS
...TERRA SWEETIE IT IS GETTING MORE DIFFICULT TO DEFEND YOU. well let's see. I don't think Terra was actually going to kill Snow White but I don't know why he went to find her in the first place then. something about MX and princesses and light? Idk it's been far too long since I've played BbS omg
spoiler: BBS
I actually thought Terra was misinformed if I remember correctly. He didn't realize how much light this Snow White has and he decided to trash the plan to kill her, so yeah. 'Sides, he's actually got an okay reason to do it, he wanted info on Master Xehanort. Wait that wasn't too good of a reason.

spoilers: BbS
you know how I am though, always having to insert the BbS trio into everything so maybe he has a different reason :/ omg he better not touch either aqua or especially ven or I will murder him viciously omg. I mean at least Aqua can defend herself, Ven is still in a lost-heart coma and can't defend himself at all. lol ven is the damsel in distress XD The point still stands that even if he knows where Ven is, there's no way he can get to him. So I think we're okay there but idk maybe they'll just try to destroy CO with Ven in it. I wouldn't put it past MX, the prick.
spoiler: BBS, KHIIFM
Whoa I never realized how Braig can actually be a key person in the next few scenes regarding TAV. Especially with that one KHIIFM cutscene as Xigbar mentioning the talking to oneself habits of Xemnas. I think he was curious enough to actually know a lot during his time as Braig and Xigbar. But yeah, it is convenient only Aqua knows where Ven is. And they can never do something like that to CO, I won't allow it! D:

spoilers: Days, BbS...erm... KH3D
hun are you just now figuring that out XD jkjk. So basically, Axel's journal entry on Roxas and girls is this

http://i46.tinypic.com/2h5v4uu.jpg

So I was thinking about this the other day. Saix and most of the Organization see Xion with her hood up, right? So if her hood were to be removed in front of them, from their point of view...what would they see? Black-haired Kairi? Roxas? Ven? Nothing? i just asdfjkl.

S-so nobodies get new hearts or they grow new ones or they get their old ones back? Idk, when that cutscene revealed the fact that Nobodies can in fact have hearts I started freaking out and stopped paying attention. because come on it's xemnas talking about it anyway am i right XD

Oooookay. I think that was also in the manga yes I actually read the manga I'm sorry okay D; but I wasn't sure if it was considered canon.

and asdfjkl that is totes a xemnas name asdfjkl No one on earth takes Xemnas seriously anymore, don't worry about it hun.

spoiler: Days, KH3D
Hahaha that picture! But yes Days made me pity Axel much more than how the cutscenes depicted him. It's actually his thoughts there, and to see him even as a Nobody get that much development, whoa. Oh yeah that reminds me, THIS CUTSCENE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtTNp_0EsAw&). Most emotion in a single cutscene ever. Especially the last few rage/sadness lines from Axel. So much respect for him there.

I think it's going to be an inception scene, haha. Either they can't take off the hood, or if they do they see another hood, and then another. Makes more sense though if they see Roxas/Ven's face, but I guess black-haired Kairi would be less mindblowing.

I don't get the KH3D revelations either. Just goes to show how Xemnas never makes any sense. But then wasn't it Xigbar explaining?

spoiler:3D, BbS
I think that was what was being implied. That so and so can't be a Light because I have them, therefore so and so will be a Darkness. But I'm also pretty sure that Yen Sid said that the Seven Lights were chosen naturally, so you can't just substitute someone in; if Terra is one of the Lights, then supposedly they can't replace him and they're just going to be short one light. I think this is what's up. I think so okay ;; god this game is so confusing asdfjkl.
spoiler: 3D
I personally think the Seven Lights would be Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Lea and Kairi. Or at least initially. It'll probably turn into Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Terra and Roxas/Kairi just like in the KH3D opening.

spoiler:KH3D, BbS

Or maybe that first scene in KH3D is when all his memories came back. Idk, has it ever been officially stated that Apprentice Xehanort was in fact faking amnesia?

See, that's what I thought too. I was looking at all the Nortys and I thought "...wait a minute. Where's Terranort?" I thought that maybe he might have been sent somewhere else. Like he's Organization Norteen's secret weapon, of sorts, and maybe they're like hiding him? OR MAYBE THEY SENT HIM TO KILL THE LINGERING SENTIMENT OMG. well can you kill that thing though? I think it's just Terra's mind and memories and HATRED so idk how you would go about killing it. :/


spoiler: KH3D, BBS
I think he was faking it. If not then just had them back with time travel. :D? D:!

Yeah I was wondering why he wasn't there. I think some of the thirteen darknesses involve the other forms that MX took during the Keyblade War and around that time. Hopefully, because I want more original characters for antagonists, not just rehashed old ones.

spoiler:BbS, Coded
um um um. I think they're just throwing guesses out there because unless Mickey and/or Yen Sid turned into the Kool-Aid man and busted through CO, they're not any closer to finding Ven's body. And maybe for his heart...um...Mickey noticed how similar Sora and Ven are? They have a lot of the same mannerisms, they're both friendship freaks, etc...idk it just seems like a lot of wild guessing to me.

XDDDDDDD I JUST LOVE THAT IN YOUR HEADCANON WHENEVER VEN'S ANGRY WITH SOMEONE HE SAYS "YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMORE" AND I IMAGINE HIM SAYING THIS WITH HIS ~DEATH GLARE OMG~ KAFJ;SDLKFDHLKJKJGDKL SWEETHEART what what what. ven totes needs to be in the princess dress because he is a princess am i right

Yes, that's right before the big fight scene at LoD and I am attempting to refrain from ranting about Eraqus because I've already done it in VMs, asdfjkl. And seriously Donald and Goofy you both are being stupid don't you remember the sleeping boy who looks exactly like roxas and the nice lady with blue hair asdfjkl. omg TOTES HEADCANON NAMI YOU DONE SCREWED UP LOL'ING FOREVER


spoiler: BBS, Coded
I think they will eventually get Ven once they get Aqua. And no one would guess that Ven was in Sora except Sora, just like in the first game.

XD

Yeah they are jerks for not remembering Ven and Aqua. That or just have incredibad memory.

spoiler:BbS
;______________; but you know this series is known for throwing curveballs lol the entirety of KH3D so...I mean, even if Xigbar/Braig doesn't know where he is, Xehanort's awfully clever and he might figure out some way to locate Ven. look I don't want this to happen either but it might since Xehanort is a complete monster omg asdfjkl
spoiler: BBS
Still counting on Nomura to give Aqua the great role of restoring Ven!

spoilers: Days
asdfjkl. He just gives this great booming speeches and the only thing anyone takes away from them is "KINGDOM HEAAAAARRRRRRTSSSS". Bless him. no wait don't bless him no no no I don't like xemnas and I think that was Xion, I'm not sure. been forever since I've played Days omg
spoiler: Days
Yeah I love Xemnas for that. Except he is pretty awful for eventually doing all the manipulation and stuff, especially for turning Xion against Roxas in that one touching fight which should have really acted as the actual final boss of Days. He's still the most tame 'Nort IMO.

omg hun i'm sorry should i just shut up and stand in the corner omg

asdfjkl I'M SORRY I ACCIDENTALLY TOO MANY OPINIONS D;

You're welcome dear. That's one of my favorites XD
Again, don't worry about it! And I am quite grateful.

Sakura Rain
May 9th, 2012, 03:43 PM
It's alright Sakura! Don't feel bad, we all love Ven and if we love a specific thing this much, I'm sure we'd all be willing to write amazing walls of text about it. :D

I just feel bad about alienating all the Final Fantasy people omg. erm I could probably write walls of text about Crisis Core if that would make everyone happy ;__;

Sephiroth's actually also in the original KH. But yes he is creepy in the first one, even though I didn't like his voice actor there. And you do have to fight Cloud even though the outcome was pretty much the same, win or lose. I was already familiar with FFVII and Vincent Valentine back then so I knew the clothes referred to him (and I think it looks cool for him to be in this garb). But yeah KH, and even Dissidia, did throw away his character development. I thought he was the same in KHII, haha. Speaking of KHII, I was annoyed that Aerith sounded awful in it. I absolutely adore Aerith and she deserved a better voice actress than that (she did get one eventually, see Crisis Core). Leon was also pretty cool even though I never finished VIII, and I can say whatever character development he got in VIII, it certainly showed in the KH series since he seems less glum and more friendly.

Okay, well, I think I still must have seen this on youtube, because I don't remember doing this fight omg. And yeah, a couple of years after I played KHI I got a (used) copy of FFVII and saw Vincent and I was like "Oh. Right." I never did understand the giant wing, though. Pretty sure that's something that Vincent doesn't have? Idk? :/ he was still pretty mopey in KHII but not quite as much as KHI and Dissidia omg. zack needs to be in dissidia it would make me feel better omg. I never finished VIII either, lol. but I prefer KH!Leon over FFVIII!Leon/Squall, though.

asdfjkl i know. I don't think annnnnyone likes Aerith's voice in KHII. CrisisCore!Aerith-voice, however, is fantastic and spectacular and omg she is just too awesome okay

Zack is indeed awesome. Crisis Core will never be the same if he weren't there.
And Aerith x Zack!

spoiler: Crisis Core
It was not the worst ending. I hated to see Zack die, oh I really did. ;-; I really wish he didn't but that's how FFVII went with things so I just dealt with it. It was still touching and almost fitting, the scenes before and during his death well-executed and dramatic. I almost couldn't watch when they got to that part, though!

ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK <3 <3 <3 omg I have three otps between FF and KH and ZackxAerith is one of them asdfjkl. SO CUTE

spoiler: FFVII, Crisis Core
I think you misunderstood me or perhaps I just wasn't clear in the first place D;, it was the worst ending as far as my feelings go asdfjkl. It hit me like a punch to the gut and it was just heartwrenching omg and I thought it was the cruelest way to kill off such a beloved character. barring, of course, Aerith's death by Sephiroth in FFVII. but even then the two might be tied ;____; but it was indeed incredibly well done and especially Cloud's scream at the end asdfjkl sweetheart


We only recently got our XBOX 360 fixed, too, and I never got to play FFXIII before it became non-functional. At least I get to play it soon. Hope you somehow get to play FFXIII eventually, Sakura.

I'll probably end up getting the PS3 because it's likely KHIII will be on it, if it ever comes out omg so I might get FFXIII and the sequel (?) to it I completely forget what it's called asdfjkl.


spoiler: BBS, KH3D
Yeah I think he did tell Aqua it never hurted to have her as a back-up. You're probably not alone there, but I personally like Vanitas. Maybe they'll split Aqua into two as well? Or use Larxene's somebody. I think he wouldn't die if Ven did, they pretty much have their own entities and hearts now.

Noooo I will not let that happen! Sora! Get your own Keyblade right now. D; Or at least if they do rid him, hopefully he only loses it momentarily and eventually gets his own. Unless my theory stands that the Keyblades Sora and Ven are using are different (Sora's is the Realm of Light's main Keyblade, he only while Ven's is just one of the Keyblades), if so then the only thing to worry about is if Sora on his own can eventually hold the Keyblade since Ven's no longer there to help him out.


spoiler: KH3D, BbS

dying @ using larxene's somebody jsyk XD Well, my love for Ven sort of prevents me from having any sort of feelings besides rage toward Vanitas. First time I was playing BbS I was thinking "ohgod he's going to be another Riku Replica" and SUDDENLY EVIL SORA and I was like "LSKDHFSD:KLFDJGKDSFJDSGKSDF:JSKDGLHDFKJ WHAT

Well, I was thinking about at the end of KHII, at the part where Sora and Riku shoot a magical beam of yaoi shoot light out of the Kingdom Key through Xemnas, that Sora was holding the Keyblade at the same time as Riku, and Riku was actually, you know, chosen to wield a Keyblade, through the Rite of Succession, so maaaaaaaybe Sora got the ability to wield a Keyblade that's not Ven's through that? And I know that supposedly masters are the only ones who can do it, but technically Terra wasn't a master when he did it with Riku, so maybe this is how Sora's going to keep the Keyblade after Ven wakes up. Maybe. look I might just be rambling here asdfjkl



spoiler: KH3D
I always thought the coat did nothing, but if it does then I guess that's why Mickey and Riku were using it or something. And the Lea getting a Keyblade thing surprised me too, but then it was apparently hinted in the trailers anyway and I failed to sense it at all, haha.

For a moment there I was unable to sense the sarcasm between you two. XD

spoilers: KH3D
The coat protects the wearer's heart from darkness. I think this was either in an interview or an Ultimania or possibly stated in-game, I really can't remember. And I think that the hinting was in the scenes where Lea was talking to Yen Sid or something, XD. Am I the only one who really doesn't like Lea's Keyblade? asdfjkl when I saw it the blade part sort of looked like a chicken to me and I died, okay

sorry hun sometimes I forget that it isn't just me and erica and there are actually other people in this club D;



spoiler: BBS
I actually thought Terra was misinformed if I remember correctly. He didn't realize how much light this Snow White has and he decided to trash the plan to kill her, so yeah. 'Sides, he's actually got an okay reason to do it, he wanted info on Master Xehanort. Wait that wasn't too good of a reason.

spoilers: BbS
I really don't think he was going to kill her in the first place, i certainly hope he wasn't because if he was terra sweetie stop making it so difficult for me to defend you asdfjkl I think he was looking for the princesses anyway because Aqua (i think?) said that MX was looking for them. and am i the only one who found it funny that the Queen pretty much jumps down Terra's throat screaming BRING ME HER HEART IN A BOX RAAAAAAAAAAARGH. graaah MX. I'm not even going to start on him because I've already let my feelings about him be known asdfjkl. i hate him okay


spoiler: BBS, KHIIFM
Whoa I never realized how Braig can actually be a key person in the next few scenes regarding TAV. Especially with that one KHIIFM cutscene as Xigbar mentioning the talking to oneself habits of Xemnas. I think he was curious enough to actually know a lot during his time as Braig and Xigbar. But yeah, it is convenient only Aqua knows where Ven is. And they can never do something like that to CO, I won't allow it! D:

spoilers: BbS
I know right? I think he's secretly running the show behind the scenes. It's entirely possible that he knows where both Ven and Aqua are and that is terrifying omg. but it's not like he could do anything to Aqua because she's aces am i right. Ven's the one I'm worried about here.

hun unless you have like a Xehanort Repellent or something similar I don't think you can stop them from doing what they want ;______;



spoiler: Days, KH3D
Hahaha that picture! But yes Days made me pity Axel much more than how the cutscenes depicted him. It's actually his thoughts there, and to see him even as a Nobody get that much development, whoa. Oh yeah that reminds me, THIS CUTSCENE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtTNp_0EsAw&). Most emotion in a single cutscene ever. Especially the last few rage/sadness lines from Axel. So much respect for him there.

I think it's going to be an inception scene, haha. Either they can't take off the hood, or if they do they see another hood, and then another. Makes more sense though if they see Roxas/Ven's face, but I guess black-haired Kairi would be less mindblowing.

I don't get the KH3D revelations either. Just goes to show how Xemnas never makes any sense. But then wasn't it Xigbar explaining?


spoilers: Days
and you know it's totes something that Axel would say. asdfjkl. and YES THAT CUTSCENE OMG. That is fantastic and the voice actor did a splendid job omg and god THE OTHER PROMISE. it's just fantastic omg.

...so basically, it's like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9whgJ5r9s). am i right

Xemnas. lol. nobody can take him seriously anymore asdfjkl. He comes on screen and I just start dying laughing. He's just so totes monotone omg
and he rambles on and on about the light in the darkness in the light in the darkness in the NOTHINGNESS and I'm just "brb dying of lol"


spoiler: 3D
I personally think the Seven Lights would be Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Lea and Kairi. Or at least initially. It'll probably turn into Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Terra and Roxas/Kairi just like in the KH3D opening.

spoilers: KH3D
And again, I'm not sure if Yen Sid said that they were chosen naturally or not. If they are chosen naturally, then I think they'll just be short a Light. Idk it has been previously mentioned that this game hurts my brain omg



spoiler: KH3D, BBS
I think he was faking it. If not then just had them back with time travel. :D? D:!

Yeah I was wondering why he wasn't there. I think some of the thirteen darknesses involve the other forms that MX took during the Keyblade War and around that time. Hopefully, because I want more original characters for antagonists, not just rehashed old ones.

spoilers: BbS, KH3D
I think it was confirmed he was faking it. Then wtf, why would he do that? Just to get in Ansem the Wise's good graces? asdfjkl IT'S PROBABLY ALL BRAIG'S FAULT OKAY.

That would be awesome. but I do want to see Terranort back just so Aqua/Ven can fight him and it can be all ~dramatic omg~ and ~sad music omg~ because you know they're going to do it. ;______;



spoiler: BBS, Coded
I think they will eventually get Ven once they get Aqua. And no one would guess that Ven was in Sora except Sora, just like in the first game.

XD

Yeah they are jerks for not remembering Ven and Aqua. That or just have incredibad memory.

spoilers: BbS, coded
But the problem here is Sora doesn't know anything about the past, so he doesn't know about Ven. If he still doesn't know about the BbS trio by the time KHIII rolls around Lightning and I are going to jump Yen Sid and smack him around, asdfjkl. Because he most likely knew a lot of stuff that would've been helpful. He possibly knows about Terra getting body-snatched, He met all three of the BbS trio and he never said a word about them to anyone else asdfjkl. Gah Yen Sid.

I wouldn't put it past Goofy, XD. and Donald too, maybe.




spoiler: BBS
Still counting on Nomura to give Aqua the great role of restoring Ven!


spoiler: BbS
and I really hope she can do it without anything bad happening. I mean we all know that Aqua is totes aces, but idk if Xehanort is going to let Ven wake up that easily. xehanort you best step off of my baby asdfjkl.


spoiler: Days
Yeah I love Xemnas for that. Except he is pretty awful for eventually doing all the manipulation and stuff, especially for turning Xion against Roxas in that one touching fight which should have really acted as the actual final boss of Days. He's still the most tame 'Nort IMO.


spoiler: Days, KH3D
Xemnas is awfullllllll. I mean he is just terrible. Turning everyone against each other and of course being responsible for Xion's final boss forms which creeped me right the hell out. and yeah she really should've been the last boss of Days. Riku was too easy after that, omg. Well, Apprentice Xehanort usedto be the most tame Nort. Now he's a jerk too for faking his amnesia asdfjkl.

Again, don't worry about it! And I am quite grateful.

asdfjkl I will try to talk more about FF. I mean I have tons of feels for Crisis Core and FFVII but I thought maybe those were considered too mainstream and I'd get yelled at for talking about them. i have self-esteem issues okay ;___;

Hun, have you ever read this one (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5721138/1/One_More_Chain_to_Reconnect)? I linked this one to Lightning earlier but I'm not sure if you caught it or not. Spoilers for Birth by Sleep, btw.

CarefulWetPaint
May 9th, 2012, 04:04 PM
Sakura you should just put all the wall of text for KH into a spoiler soo it doesnt take up the whole page >.< and I can more easily find things I can talk about!
I think Im going to watch Crisis Core tonight, It's animated isnt it? /hopes its that movie I read about and not a game.

My favourite thing that I've seen with Zack is when
Advent Children Complete Spoiler
Is when Sephiroth is kicking the s--- out of Cloud and Zack comes in and is like, need a hand man? Don't forget bro, your my living legacy, youre not allowed to die.
That was awesome.

I thought the FF characters fit well into KH myself, but then again I hadnt really played FF before I played KH so I just seemed right to me but my god;
Trying to fight Sephiroth was probably the hardest thing ever, I could not beat him, he literally just pwned me way to hard and there was basically nothing I could do.. (Why is he so strong!)
Also Im not sure Zack's a spoiler to crisis core as it happens for FF7 anyways.. but..

Also I agree with SwiftSign on that some FF questions should be added to the sign up sheet. It would make it more fair on people because when I did it I was like.. I swear this was a SE club not a KH club.. am I mistaken.. ??

Sakura Rain
May 9th, 2012, 05:29 PM
Sakura you should just put all the wall of text for KH into a spoiler soo it doesnt take up the whole page >.< and I can more easily find things I can talk about!

asdfjkl
I'm just going to
stand in the corner
-corner of despair omg-

I think Im going to watch Crisis Core tonight, It's animated isnt it? /hopes its that movie I read about and not a game.

You're thinking of Last Order, dear. Crisis Core is in fact a game. Starring ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK. omg

My favourite thing that I've seen with Zack is when
Advent Children Complete Spoiler
Is when Sephiroth is kicking the s--- out of Cloud and Zack comes in and is like, need a hand man? Don't forget bro, your my living legacy, youre not allowed to die.
That was awesome.

omg omg i know and in the first AC I was so sad that they didn't put him in hardly anywhere and then in ACC there he was. I WAS SO HAPPY OKAY.

I thought the FF characters fit well into KH myself, but then again I hadnt really played FF before I played KH so I just seemed right to me but my god;
Trying to fight Sephiroth was probably the hardest thing ever, I could not beat him, he literally just pwned me way to hard and there was basically nothing I could do.. (Why is he so strong!)
Also Im not sure Zack's a spoiler to crisis core as it happens for FF7 anyways.. but..

Which Sephiroth? KHI!Sephiroth or KHII!Sephiroth? and I don't think everyone on earth has played FFVII and/or Crisis Core so I'm going to spoiler tag it anyway XD

Also I agree with SwiftSign on that some FF questions should be added to the sign up sheet. It would make it more fair on people because when I did it I was like.. I swear this was a SE club not a KH club.. am I mistaken.. ??

...CORNER OF DESPAIR OMG
Yes, I think that some FF questions need to be added, just to make it fair. asdfjkl why why why did i turn the entire club into my feelings for ven/bbs whyyyyyy

CarefulWetPaint
May 9th, 2012, 06:12 PM
asdfjkl
I'm just going to
stand in the corner
-corner of despair omg-


-goes and joins Sakura-
Its okay darling Ill come be your friend its just to make it easier on me xD.


You're thinking of Last Order, dear. Crisis Core is in fact a game. Starring ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK. omg


Ugh I knew it was something. I probs wont play Crisis Core then.. Wait what platform is it on?


omg omg i know and in the first AC I was so sad that they didn't put him in hardly anywhere and then in ACC there he was. I WAS SO HAPPY OKAY.

Yeah I think ACC was much better, everything was just so much cooler in it! My god, favourite thing ever!


Which Sephiroth? KHI!Sephiroth or KHII!Sephiroth? and I don't think everyone on earth has played FFVII and/or Crisis Core so I'm going to spoiler tag it anyway XD

Umm does it matter.. They were both impossible! well not really but really REALLY hard!!!

...CORNER OF DESPAIR OMG
Yes, I think that some FF questions need to be added, just to make it fair. asdfjkl why why why did i turn the entire club into my feelings for ven/bbs whyyyyyy

Naww darl!! *hugs* Its okay! We just think it should be a bit more general SE then just KH. But we still LOVEE KH!!

Sakura Rain
May 9th, 2012, 10:10 PM
-goes and joins Sakura-
Its okay darling Ill come be your friend its just to make it easier on me xD.

-sniffles- okay dear :)

Ugh I knew it was something. I probs wont play Crisis Core then.. Wait what platform is it on?

Crisis Core is on the PSP. It and BbS are the only reasons I have a PSP, asdfjkl.

Yeah I think ACC was much better, everything was just so much cooler in it! My god, favourite thing ever!

I just have all the feels for ACC. Maiiiinly because of all of the Zack scenes they added in. omg zack sweetheart <3 and um there's more blood. A lot of blood. asdfjkl that just makes it feel more real though.


Umm does it matter.. They were both impossible! well not really but really REALLY hard!!!

Erm well KHI Sephiroth, to me, looked a bit more difficult than KHII Sephiroth. But that's just me.


Naww darl!! *hugs* Its okay! We just think it should be a bit more general SE then just KH. But we still LOVEE KH!!

asdfjkl
this is just what happens when I love stuff too much
this shouldn't be a thing
-hugs-

@CoraCoraNekaku

Hi! Welcome to the fanclub!

-is distracted by avatar-

asdfjkl akuroku otp

CarefulWetPaint
May 9th, 2012, 11:39 PM
*Hugs Sakura* You're allowed to love things, we love how much joy it brings you.

Im never going to get a PSP ill just have to find me an emulatorrrrr.

Yeah so much more blood! Im going to have to re-watch it for sure.

Best thing for me is that I hadnt play FF7 beforehand so watching Tifa fight that guy I was like.. :O shes quick! And when Zack and Aerith reject Cloud from the life stream xD. Ugh I love it so much!

Yeah I didnt lvl up enough to fight in him KH2 but in KH1 I could barely knock 3 health bars from him before he ripped me to shreds, he was impossible!!

Welcome CoraCora,
Just when you're joining clubs dont bother asking for permission youll always be welcome and accept, just jump straight into the discussion!

KH Fan Bixran
May 10th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Ok, I check this thread after weeks of forgeting, and I find 2 pages filled with mostly fangirl text-walls xp

Anyway, today's my b-day! Decided to get a 3ds instead of waiting till the end of summer for to get it along w/ kh3d

CoraCoraNekaku
May 10th, 2012, 07:29 AM
*Raises hand* I'm a boy...well biologically speaking. Mentality not so sure. Yet I do suppot the adorable and sexy boys. Ok I'm shutting up now.

Sakura Rain
May 10th, 2012, 04:50 PM
*Raises hand* I'm a boy...well biologically speaking. Mentality not so sure. Yet I do suppot the adorable and sexy boys. Ok I'm shutting up now.

I am automatically distracted by the Akuroku. or Soriku. or anything really, as long as they're pretty. asdfjkl does this make me a bad person.

Ok, I check this thread after weeks of forgeting, and I find 2 pages filled with mostly fangirl text-walls xp

...
-corner of despair omg

Anyway, today's my b-day! Decided to get a 3ds instead of waiting till the end of summer for to get it along w/ kh3d

Happy B-day! yaaaaaaaaaay 3DS. I got mine like the instant that KH3D was announced, lol. But I also got it for the eventual Animal Crossing game and also Kid Icarus but all this is off topic omg

Yeah so much more blood! Im going to have to re-watch it for sure.

I was going "omg can he survive losing this much blood" and then I remembered that he's essentially a super soldier and then I lol'd.

Spoiler: Advent Children
Best thing for me is that I hadnt play FF7 beforehand so watching Tifa fight that guy I was like.. shes quick! And when Zack and Aerith reject Cloud from the life stream xD. Ugh I love it so much!

spoiler: Advent Children

omg omg and then in ACC she gets another fight scene and i was like "HELL YES TIFAAAAAAA" and Aerith's all "This one's too big to adopt." and Zack goes "Sorry buddy. I guess there's no place for you here." or something like that and I was dying, okay asdfjkl zaaaaaack and aerrrrrrrith ;____;

Yeah I didnt lvl up enough to fight in him KH2 but in KH1 I could barely knock 3 health bars from him before he ripped me to shreds, he was impossible!!

I think that I am in fact at the maximum level in KHII is it 99 or 100? Can't remember so it's totes easy to beat anything asdfjkl. as for KHI I really don't remember fighting Sephiroth and I think I would remember fighting Sephiroth am i right so I can't speak for that.

CoraCoraNekaku
May 10th, 2012, 04:55 PM
I orgasmed at seeing Cloud and Sephy in AC. Such amazing animation.

CarefulWetPaint
May 10th, 2012, 06:40 PM
@CoraCora,
Please post relevant things when replying in Other Clubs, Try and make your post at least close to being on topic.
But yes the animation in ACC is amazing. Also do try and keep it clean if possible.

@Sakura
Yeah thats what they said! It was cute, Cloud was all like DAWWWW.
ACC Spoiler

When they are fighting the big beast and everyones like we cant do it, but cloud can! And they all used awesome team work to get him up there to cut it up. That was awesome.

Oh rly? Well thats just cheating! He's still pretty tough though isnt he?
In KHI he's at the Colosseum and is just a beast from hell.

Also.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Bro! I hope you enjoy your 3DS and get some mad enjoyment out of KH3D!!

CoraCoraNekaku
May 10th, 2012, 06:44 PM
@CoraCora,
Please post relevant things when replying in Other Clubs, Try and make your post at least close to being on topic.
But yes the animation in ACC is amazing. Also do try and keep it clean if possible.

@Sakura
Yeah thats what they said! It was cute, Cloud was all like DAWWWW.
ACC Spoiler

When they are fighting the big beast and everyones like we cant do it, but cloud can! And they all used awesome team work to get him up there to cut it up. That was awesome.

Oh rly? Well thats just cheating! He's still pretty tough though isnt he?
In KHI he's at the Colosseum and is just a beast from hell.

Also.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Bro! I hope you enjoy your 3DS and get some mad enjoyment out of KH3D!!


Wait thought my post was relevant since people were talking about Advent Children.

CarefulWetPaint
May 10th, 2012, 06:48 PM
Wait thought my post was relevant since people were talking about Advent Children.

I was talking about the first one about being a male..?

The other one was better, definitely agree with the amazing animation, does remind me a lot of the cut scenes from the newer games though!
They should totally just take all the cut scenes from newer games and turn it into like a movie, they wouldnt even have to add all that much to make it tie together!!

CoraCoraNekaku
May 10th, 2012, 06:50 PM
I was talking about the first one about being a male..?

The other one was better, definitely agree with the amazing animation, does remind me a lot of the cut scenes from the newer games though!
They should totally just take all the cut scenes from newer games and turn it into like a movie, they wouldnt even have to add all that much to make it tie together!!

Oh I was just saying that since the other person was talking about fangirling so I was just replying to that I do it but I'm not a girl...

Edited Noticed I posted that as a new post not a reply.

ソラ
May 11th, 2012, 02:44 PM
Lemme ask y'all a question.
Do you think SE gonna add anything new to the US version of KH3D like they did in Kh1, and KHBBS?

To me, Im not so sure I dont think they wont unless it is a new secret boss to a new KH game or so. Tbh, I hope there isnt a Final mix of the game mainly it isnt a main game its like CoM, if they do anything with KH3D it might be a RE, or something, and Nomura did say he has no plans for it at the moment, and he seems more focus on maybe the "mystery KH game" or the 10th anniversary for NA, EU. etc. Also there is FFVersus13. I just hope Kh3 comes out soon, I mean I love all these KH games, but I want to see Xehanort to go down.

Kevin
May 11th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Also, Destiny Demon could the opening post be changed to either make open questions or include a FF question? I had to rewrite these for my application.

Talking about these.

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
What two Keyblades would you double wield?
What would you name the Keyblade of Master Xehanort himself?
What new Disney worlds do you hope will be introduced in KH3D?
What is your favourite Kingdom Hearts game and why?
If you could play as any KH villain (or, in some cases, allies), who would it be?
I almost overlooked this. x_x

Anyways, I agree with you, so I discarded them with a simple one just for starters. :)

CarefulWetPaint
May 11th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Lemme ask y'all a question.
Do you think SE gonna add anything new to the US version of KH3D like they did in Kh1, and KHBBS?

To me, Im not so sure I dont think they wont unless it is a new secret boss to a new KH game or so. Tbh, I hope there isnt a Final mix of the game mainly it isnt a main game its like CoM, if they do anything with KH3D it might be a RE, or something, and Nomura did say he has no plans for it at the moment, and he seems more focus on maybe the "mystery KH game" or the 10th anniversary for NA, EU. etc. Also there is FFVersus13. I just hope Kh3 comes out soon, I mean I love all these KH games, but I want to see Xehanort to go down.

Wait.. WHAT?! They add new stuff to the english release!? My God why did I not know this! What did they add in Kh1 and KHBBS??? I must knowwwwwwwww!
Do you think KH3 will be multi console??


Also I think thats a much better question Destiny :) Not so bias anymore which is good xD

Also why not put a Square enix banner instead of the KH one, something like this maybe?

Square Enix Banner (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6GqtgNSc5H82BU-xCCUv_beXZ5g50q8b3-pydFtvDb6LPe5dDXIMFrywurw)

CoraCoraNekaku
May 12th, 2012, 02:47 AM
New as in pre order stuff or game stuff? I know we got a Ventus thingy from GS for BBS

CarefulWetPaint
May 12th, 2012, 03:23 AM
I meant ingame stuff but I thought that was pretty well implied with how I wrote mine and by replying to コナンくん post in a quote

CoraCoraNekaku
May 12th, 2012, 04:25 AM
I meant ingame stuff but I thought that was pretty well implied with how I wrote mine and by replying to コナンくん post in a quote


Well sorry...I just woke up when I replied..

CarefulWetPaint
May 12th, 2012, 04:51 AM
Don't worry! I didnt mean to come off like that. But do you know what extra stuff they added to the USA releases off KH??

ソラ
May 12th, 2012, 08:50 AM
Wait.. WHAT?! They add new stuff to the english release!? My God why did I not know this! What did they add in Kh1 and KHBBS??? I must knowwwwwwwww!
Do you think KH3 will be multi console??


KH1 NA - Sephiroth Fight, Phantom Fight, and Kurt Zisa fight. (I think that is all it)

KhBBS - Mysterious Figure Fight, New Keyblades, New D-Link "Pete", Critical Mode, New Songs on the Ice Cream Beat, Crown Stickers.

Mainly cause of these adds on the game they created Final Mix (thought Final Mix has a few other adds too that we didnt get), KH2FM was created cause they wanted to bundle it up with Re:CoM and the thought it would of sold more with Re:CoM cause KH2FM had alot of adds but they thought they wanted a 3D adaption of KHCoM.

CarefulWetPaint
May 14th, 2012, 05:56 AM
KH1 NA - Sephiroth Fight, Phantom Fight, and Kurt Zisa fight. (I think that is all it)

KhBBS - Mysterious Figure Fight, New Keyblades, New D-Link "Pete", Critical Mode, New Songs on the Ice Cream Beat, Crown Stickers.

Mainly cause of these adds on the game they created Final Mix (thought Final Mix has a few other adds too that we didnt get), KH2FM was created cause they wanted to bundle it up with Re:CoM and the thought it would of sold more with Re:CoM cause KH2FM had alot of adds but they thought they wanted a 3D adaption of KHCoM.

Oh I really didnt know none of that was in the japanese release. I guess its lucky in a way that I've only played the english version then considering I get a more complete experience straight up I guess I could say.
Did you like that they did that or not?

ソラ
May 14th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Oh I really didnt know none of that was in the japanese release. I guess its lucky in a way that I've only played the english version then considering I get a more complete experience straight up I guess I could say.
Did you like that they did that or not?

Yes I liked it. But considering that they did this, Japan whine and moan about the extra in KH1, and tadah! Final Mix raised to the occasion for fans in Japan, which made America all sad cause they want to fight Unknown, and get the extra keyblades and scenes.

EDIT: Kingdom Hearts 3D English trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7TtGC0cVE

Riku
May 14th, 2012, 07:41 PM
lol. I posted this to my blog a minute ago and came to drop it here too, but ya beat me to it =b

As I said in my blog, I love Gallagher's take on YMX. A little flatter and emotionless than I expected, but me likey. Also soooo glad they got the Tron: Legacy cast to reprise their roles for the game.

CarefulWetPaint
May 14th, 2012, 07:55 PM
My god that looks amazing! (I like Riku with long hair better though.) Mickey is defs the best though. Its making me keen to buy a 3DS! UGH I dont have the money to do that. Definitely looks incredible.. might just youtube the cutscenes instead. Thatll be fulfilling enough if I cant play it I'm sure!!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
May 14th, 2012, 08:08 PM
That trailer looks awesome, though I do wish that the mouth movements matched the voice acting...they're off...
I feel like these are going to be a long two months, oh well at least I got B2W2 news.
Also what's taking Versus so long...

CarefulWetPaint
May 14th, 2012, 08:17 PM
That trailer looks awesome, though I do wish that the mouth movements matched the voice acting...they're off...
I feel like these are going to be a long two months, oh well at least I got B2W2 news.
Also what's taking Versus so long...


I was going to comment on that as well but thought I was just seeing things! Maybe it was just bad syncing in the trailer and they'll fix it for the official release? Well at least I hope they do..
Why dont you play through all the games in the lead up to it so the story and such is fresh in your mind! someone should totally do this..Lightning...Sakura...

Cid
May 15th, 2012, 04:09 AM
lol. I posted this to my blog a minute ago and came to drop it here too, but ya beat me to it =b

As I said in my blog, I love Gallagher's take on YMX. A little flatter and emotionless than I expected, but me likey. Also soooo glad they got the Tron: Legacy cast to reprise their roles for the game.

Is it really Gallagher doing YMX in KH3D? I really think he was just referring to that one liner in BBS that was spoken, i.e. "This world is just too small."

But I do like YMX's voice here either way. And regarding the Tron: Legacy cast, I still hate how emotionless the old guy (Kevin Flynn) was in the trailer when he said he never saw the Keyblade. It's as if he didn't care about it at all, haha.

My god that looks amazing! (I like Riku with long hair better though.) Mickey is defs the best though. Its making me keen to buy a 3DS! UGH I dont have the money to do that. Definitely looks incredible.. might just youtube the cutscenes instead. Thatll be fulfilling enough if I cant play it I'm sure!!

Actually warming up with short-haired Riku now, although his KHII form with the short hair admittedly still looks awkward. And yeah, I love how Bret Iwan keeps improving by each release. I hope he soon becomes on par with Tony Anselmo and Bill Farmer in the career!

That trailer looks awesome, though I do wish that the mouth movements matched the voice acting...they're off...
I feel like these are going to be a long two months, oh well at least I got B2W2 news.
Also what's taking Versus so long...
The mouth movements are actually already tweaked. I think the video was just edited badly, although I'm not entirely sure about that. Aye, I'm relying on B2/W2 for fulfillment in waiting for these upcoming must-have titles.

Versus was just delayed from all the other KH and FF titles SE recently released. I'm almost sure we'll be reacquainted with Noctis and his gang quite soon, E3 2012 to be exact.

I was going to comment on that as well but thought I was just seeing things! Maybe it was just bad syncing in the trailer and they'll fix it for the official release? Well at least I hope they do..
Why dont you play through all the games in the lead up to it so the story and such is fresh in your mind! someone should totally do this..Lightning...Sakura...
Yeah, that was I was thinking. The story not being fresh doesn't bother me that much, probably because I'm already too much of a KH freak, wait, scratch that. You all know of the in-game function that addresses the continuity lock-out, right? That will help, I'm sure.

Cherrim
May 15th, 2012, 04:40 PM
oh my god I put this off because I was having trouble getting my thoughts about a certain part down and then the posts kept building up and then I had no time to write this reply on the weekend and AAAH now this will take me forever. ;_; Here we go.

I’m formatting this by topic since I thought that worked really well that last time Cid had a ton of stuff to catch up on. XD;

KINGDOM HEARTS

Vanitas
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D
spoilers for: KH3D, BBS and Days
I actually was under the impression that Vanitas immediately approached Xehanort (inside Terranort) when he was defeated by Ven in his final battle. Kinda parallel to Ven approaching kid!Sora and taking rest in his heart. I dunno, maybe that's why he appeared beside YMX for a split second when he was talking to Sora (which was also shown in the trailers either as first or last segments for two of those).

Actually that brings me to a point, when KH3D was not yet released in Japan, I saw YMX (which sort of represents Xehanort) as a parallel to Sora, and he kinda pointed it out in that scene, or at least that's what I got out of their conversation. They sort of both harbor many hearts within them, like Ven, Roxas and Xion in Sora while there's Terra (I think) and Vanitas in Xehanort. Is that point even significant in the actual game though? Or in the future of the series?
My only issue with that is that is that we actually see inside Terranort's heart in BBS's secret ending. I think it was the secret one... where Terra and MX are staring each other down, arguing over who will inevitably take control of the body? They also imply Eraqus is there, I think, so I can definitely see the parallels to Sora what with taking in people in need but... I don't remember Vanitas ever being there or even hinted at. It would certainly make more sense than Sora at that point.

But. Vanitas looks just like Sora. I'm pretty sure when MX split Ven and Vanitas in the first place, both of their hearts (? does Vanitas have one? whatever, his equivalent, I mean) were shattered and incomplete. It was Sora who shared his heart with Ven so that Ven didn't die, and I assumed that accidentally spread over to Vanitas too which is why he looks like Sora. I can't really think of another explanation for it, unless he's some sort of reflection like Xion was supposed to be and can take on different appearances but then why would he take on Sora's?

I think it's significant that Terranort/Xehanort/WHOEVER harbours hearts as well. It doesn't really come up in 3D but I think it'll be a thing eventually. (If it did come up in 3D, it went totally over my head. Which is quite possible--those kinds of things are pretty deep and always got me a bit confused in the other games when I played them in Japanese. xD) When Vanitas appears to Sora, Nomura said in a Famitsu interview this week that he only takes form because he's reacting with Ven's heart. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean and I think he was being intentionally vague about it. He said otherwise, Vanitas has no form. :s
I seem to recall Vanitas saying they could use Aqua as a back-up plan. am i the only one who wants Vanitas to get lost somewhere and be promptly mauled by wild dogs asdfjkl. but the problem would be finding someone with a heart of pure darkness. Idk, would Vanitas still live if Ven died? I really hope that he would die omg but I don't want Ven to die either asdfjkl.
I think they just needed a Keyblade Wielder so if Terra didn’t pan out, they’d use her, but I don’t think she was ever all that viable. She never had any traces of darkness in her like Terra did, so it would be soooo much more work to break her instead. I think MX would’ve just gone ahead with the 13 Darknesses thing instead of whatever he was doing in BBS. I think Ven and Vanitas are tied together, though. They were separated but they still share the same heart is what I’m thinking… which is why Ven told Terra and Aqua to kill him when they were all together in Keyblade Graveyard and why he had to take Vanitas on in his heart at the end of his story.
Well, my love for Ven sort of prevents me from having any sort of feelings besides rage toward Vanitas. First time I was playing BbS I was thinking "ohgod he's going to be another Riku Replica" and SUDDENLY EVIL SORA and I was like "LSKDHFSD:KLFDJGKDSFJDSGKSDF:JSKDGLHDFKJ WHAT
I thought he was gonna be another Riku Replica-type too and then all the way through Terra’s story kept going “OMG WHY DOES HE SOUND SO MUCH LIKE SORA.” Thankfully, I did not pay attention during the credits when Sora’s VA came up as Vanitas’s so I don’t think I was spoilt for that. XD; It was more an “ohhhh THAT’S whose voice it was!” when he was finally de-masked.
Why Do All The Characters Suck At Remembering Past Events
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded, 3D
Right, Ven telling her wouldn't have made much sense. He knew nothing about what happened to Terra and Aqua. Your explanation makes more sense, actually, with her powers and all, and if this is the case, I think only Naminé knew about TAV. I don't even think DiZ was in Re:Coded. But yes, it is a shame this had to pave way for a sub-par game, maybe Naminé knew she had no other way of meeting Sora and simply imitated the "Thank Naminé" note to inform her because she couldn't think of anything better, haha. And it's part of KH-- messing with in-betweens and pasts to cause plotholes like that. Maybe King Mickey and Yen Sid were waiting for the right time? I mean in Re:Coded's secret ending they seemed really intentionally secretive on discussing the whereabouts of TAV, maybe they thought Sora would be too reckless and get killed trying to save Aqua and co.
If DiZ wasn't literally in Re:Coded (ie, in the journal), then it's only because he chose not to be. Inserting the data into Jiminy's Journal was his idea, I'm pretty sure. He mentions the data insertion when he's standing on the beach in Sora's heart with Riku at the end of 3D. (That is SUCH a weird sentence.) But maybe I'm mixing things up? 'Cause I can't think of why he'd know what message to tell Namine unless he managed to dig something up about TAV. :/ Unless Namine found links in Sora's memories to them and told him about it. I imagine he probably wanted regular reports about how the rebuilding of Sora's memories was doing. (It just occurred to me now that I've been saying Sora's heart got broken+rearranged in COM all this time... I've actually meant memories every time. That's exciting. More on that later!) But Coded was really confusing, now that I think about it. The journal took Riku's form, Roxas was there, Namine was there being more omnipotent than usual... x_X; I feel like I'm forgetting a lot of really important details from this game. I need to do a canon refresh on it, ugggh.

Also, okay, I can see why they'd hide things from Sora then. He would just bolt out the door to go save them the moment he found out they were potentially in danger or something. And he'd probably come running in 10 minutes later "...wait... where are they!?"

Or maybe that first scene in KH3D is when all his memories came back. Idk, has it ever been officially stated that Apprentice Xehanort was in fact faking amnesia?

See, that's what I thought too. I was looking at all the Nortys and I thought "...wait a minute. Where's Terranort?" I thought that maybe he might have been sent somewhere else. Like he's Organization Norteen's secret weapon, of sorts, and maybe they're like hiding him? OR MAYBE THEY SENT HIM TO KILL THE LINGERING SENTIMENT OMG. well can you kill that thing though? I think it's just Terra's mind and memories and HATRED so idk how you would go about killing it. :/
It’s never been stated anywhere, no. That’s why I’ve always been so confused on the matter. Depending when/if he knows who he is and what he’s done and what he wants to do, it really changes how the series is viewed. If he knows from the start and leaves Braig in the dark about everything right up until the moment he takes his heart, then he’s a lot more cunning than everyone else in the series assumes. If he only remembered who he was as the Apprentices started losing their Hearts to become Nobodies, he doesn’t seem quite as threatening. Definitely a threat of sorts, yes, but it also means he’s vulnerable to losing control and that’s important.

I doubt anyone remembers that LS is even around. Since Sora so forgot to tell an adult.

sdklfjuslkdjfljesl efSLKFJDSKLFS ORGANIZATION NORTEEN. /dead
spoiler: Days, BBS
Yeah I love Xemnas for that. Except he is pretty awful for eventually doing all the manipulation and stuff, especially for turning Xion against Roxas in that one touching fight which should have really acted as the actual final boss of Days. He's still the most tame 'Nort IMO.
I think Xemnas is probably the Terranort with the most memories of Terra in him. He remembers Aqua and refers to her as a “friend” during KH2FM when he visits her armour in Radiant Garden. He’s concerned with finding Ven in C.O. since he keeps sending Axel there. The only thing that weirds me out about this assumption is that Xemnas specifically sees Xion as Sora. You’d think he’d see her as Ven like Xigbar does since if he’s got more of Terra’s memories than the other ‘Norts, wouldn’t Ven be his closest connection to Sora? :s
;______________; but you know this series is known for throwing curveballs lol the entirety of KH3D so...I mean, even if Xigbar/Braig doesn't know where he is, Xehanort's awfully clever and he might figure out some way to locate Ven. look I don't want this to happen either but it might since Xehanort is a complete monster omg asdfjkl
Actually, I guess Xehanort/Xemnas must know that Ven’s in C.O. since he keeps sending Axel to look for the room he’s in in Days. But how does he know? It’s stated somewhere that Xemnas found C.O. and took it as another base… was he looking for Land of Departure because he figured that’s where Aqua would have left Ven? :/ Only explanation I can think of. Which then brings back the “how much did Xehanort (+ others) remember?” thing.
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded
um um um. I think they're just throwing guesses out there because unless Mickey and/or Yen Sid turned into the Kool-Aid man and busted through CO, they're not any closer to finding Ven's body. And maybe for his heart...um...Mickey noticed how similar Sora and Ven are? They have a lot of the same mannerisms, they're both friendship freaks, etc...idk it just seems like a lot of wild guessing to me.

XDDDDDDD I JUST LOVE THAT IN YOUR HEADCANON WHENEVER VEN'S ANGRY WITH SOMEONE HE SAYS "YOU CAN'T CALL ME VEN ANYMORE" AND I IMAGINE HIM SAYING THIS WITH HIS ~DEATH GLARE OMG~ KAFJ;SDLKFDHLKJKJGDKL SWEETHEART what what what. ven totes needs to be in the princess dress because he is a princess am i right

Yes, that's right before the big fight scene at LoD and I am attempting to refrain from ranting about Eraqus because I've already done it in VMs, asdfjkl. And seriously Donald and Goofy you both are being stupid don't you remember the sleeping boy who looks exactly like roxas and the nice lady with blue hair asdfjkl. omg TOTES HEADCANON NAMI YOU DONE SCREWED UP LOL'ING FOREVER

They’re similar but… they aren’t that similar. I mean, they have similar personalities but they don’t look alike and it seems really weird to assume that Ven’s with Sora after like 10 years of probably not thinking about him much. :s

There was definitely a death glare! (Although with Ven, it’s not much of a death glare, it’s more of a pout glare.) That’s pretty much Namine’s line of thought! Aqua was not so keen on it though. :(

Yeah so… no excuse for them, I think. XD Everyone else, they would have met him (and the others) so briefly that it wouldn’t leave much of an impression but I find it hard to believe they’d totally forget everything about Ven. Must’ve been Namine.
spoiler: BBS
Still counting on Nomura to give Aqua the great role of restoring Ven!
She promised she wouldn’t go get him until she could bring Terra back to wake him up with her. She doesn’t break her promises. ;~;
358/2 Days
spoiler: Days
That is a prime example of how many wasted plotlines, short events and directions they could've taken for Days but just didn't. I wish they allowed more headcanon into Days, not much time in between the illustrated days within the game to place events that one would have like to happen, like what you just described. I really wished that happened. But since it didn't and I can't convince myself to think it did, I don't like Roxas being paired with Naminé.
Days kind of confuses me because it's not like they ran out of time or anything. Because of the game mechanics, you'd do something like 3-4 days in a row based on what missions you took on, and that way they let you do things in your own order to some extent. So for those, it makes sense that nothing important would happen in-between those days because it could potentially mess with who was around for missions that you left for later and whatnot but... there's no excuse for when it skips ahead 20-30 days every so often. Even I wouldn't want to do that many daily missions but they didn't all have to be Organization missions. :/ There was plenty of room timeline-wise to do things, they just skipped out on it. Maybe the DS cartridge was already packed to the brim and they honestly couldn't fit anything else in (I might have heard something to this effect--it could also explain why they never released an FM for it... since no extra content would fit anyway) but... I dunno. It really does feel like they missed out on a lot of things that could have explained more in KH2 or given more throwbacks to BBS or something.
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D
hun are you just now figuring that out XD jkjk. So basically, Axel's journal entry on Roxas and girls is this

http://i46.tinypic.com/2h5v4uu.jpg

So I was thinking about this the other day. Saix and most of the Organization see Xion with her hood up, right? So if her hood were to be removed in front of them, from their point of view...what would they see? Black-haired Kairi? Roxas? Ven? Nothing? i just asdfjkl.
w-well, I was coming up with this awesome theory about why he was overthrowing the Org and was reading the journal entry to see if it could help me… and pretty much all it says is “why did Axel kill Vexen??” Marluxia, he killed him because you ordered him to you idiot WHY DO YOU THINK. >:( It made me drop my theory because if he can’t get his head around that, there’s no way he’s smart enough to have come up with what I was thinking fml. XD

Lmao Axel. ;_; You are so inappropriate.

Yeah, the Org sees Xion with her hood up. I don’t think they can see her as anything else since I’m not sure the hood is really a hood. That makes no sense but like… I remember the scene right before Xion and Axel become friends where all three of them are up on the Clock Tower and every time the scene shows just her and Roxas, her hood is down, but if the scene shows all three of them, the hood is up. She’s not taking it on and off just because she trusts Roxas to let him see her face… Axel is just literally seeing her with the hood on no matter what. So I don’t think taking the hood off would even be possible for a lot of people because it’s not even there, necessarily. They just see it regardless. But if it can be done, my guess is she probably just looks like Sora (who she is supposed to be a doll based on) or some featureless doll.

Hahaha that picture! But yes Days made me pity Axel much more than how the cutscenes depicted him. It's actually his thoughts there, and to see him even as a Nobody get that much development, whoa. Oh yeah that reminds me, THIS CUTSCENE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtTNp_0EsAw&). Most emotion in a single cutscene ever. Especially the last few rage/sadness lines from Axel. So much respect for him there.

I think it's going to be an inception scene, haha. Either they can't take off the hood, or if they do they see another hood, and then another. Makes more sense though if they see Roxas/Ven's face, but I guess black-haired Kairi would be less mindblowing.
Awwwwww, Axel! ;_; That scene. And Xion trying so hard to not sound emotional too. ;_; *pets them both*

Inifinite hoods is kind of the greatest idea ever. This is my new headcanon. Way better than what I said.
3D
spoiler: I'm going to assume anyone who's spoilt themselves for 3D also knows the rest of the series' plot. EVERYTHING.
(spoiler-ception!)

Nobodies & Hearts
I still don't completely understand this bit they added with the Nobodies in KH3D. Do they actually suggest that Nobodies grow their own hearts? So restored people like Lea get to have two hearts or just one combined heart? Or do they slowly sap away from the old heart in their Heartless when they connect and bond and stuff? So confusing.
Okay, so here's where that thing I said about memories and hearts gets interesting.

We've always been told that Nobodies are without hearts, because their hearts were forcibly removed and now inhabit a Heartless somewhere. Because they lack hearts, they also lack feelings and empathy and all those corny things that are associated with emotion. This is a really confusing definition though because it's pretty clear by the end of COM/Days/KH2 that some of the Nobodies show clear signs of emotion--Namine is seen crying as Sora falls asleep at the end of COM, Xion cries in Days, I think Roxas cries in Days (and doesn't understand what tears are xD), and Axel is shown crying just before he fades away in KH2FM when they add the extra scene at the top of the Clock Tower in Twilight Town. (...they also have happytimes but crying is a more difficult emotion to fake, I'll say. XD) You could even argue that other Nobodies, like Demyx, Larxene, or Vexen, show emotion before they die--they were both in a state of disbelief or panic as they faded, compared to others who didn't really seem to to be too distressed about it (Xemnas, Marluxia, Saix).

3D gives the explanation for that: Nobodies may be created/born without hearts, but hearts are not a solely "natural" phenomenon. They can be created out of nothing because they're formed from shared experiences with people you care about: memories. Axel/Roxas/Xion had strong ties to one another and cared about one another, so they ended up with hearts in the end. Roxas and Xion are harder to see it in because I'm convinced Roxas actually had (at least access to) Ven's heart during his time as a Nobody and Xion is a reflection of Sora, so it might be easier for them to show emotion... but Axel? If you read his entries in the secret reports in Days, it's so obvious that he slowly gets [a] heart back as you read them chronologically. He goes from not caring about anything at all to seriously worrying about Xion/Roxas and questioning the fact that he feels like he has emotions again. He got his heart from befriending Roxas and Xion.

Memories are definitely tied to the heart. The members at C.O. in COM were stationed there to study the heart and what to they do? Pretty much everything in that game is tied to memories, be it Namine playing with Sora's or implanting fake ones in Riku Replica. That implantation essentially gave Riku Replica a heart--those were definitely not fake emotions and he had no clue that he wasn't real until they forced him to see it. Then, when Naminé "broke" him so he wouldn't kill Sora, he managed to come back, presumably because whatever had formed in him was his own, not just memories falsely implanted. There are also a lot of lines about the heart and memories in this game and I remember a few years ago I was coming up with a theory about this but never really got anywhere with it. (I remember being really intrigued by the story in Halloween Town in COM regarding hearts.) I feel like I need to go back and look into all this now because it might actually be relevant. :D

I don't really know what happens to Nobodies who gain hearts. Lea--I think--remembers everything from being a Nobody, so I assume his hearts just merged or something. Or hearts aren't literally hearts? Maybe what everyone refers to as a heart is moreso a connection of shared memories than a (meta)physical object. So it wasn't that Lea now had two hearts when he revived, he just had more memories to add to the ones that made up his original heart. I hope that's not too confusing (it is) but I can't really explain it too well since my ideas on this are pretty shaky to begin with. XD; They definitely said that Nobodies grow new hearts, though.
I don't get the KH3D revelations either. Just goes to show how Xemnas never makes any sense. But then wasn't it Xigbar explaining?
I think Xigbar was explaining, but Xemnas was standing right there and the rest of the conversation (“;_; HOW COULD YOU USE EVERYONE LIKE THAT. THEY HAD HEARTS AFTER ALL.”) was aimed at him.
Thirteen Darknesses & Seven Lights
I think that was what was being implied. That so and so can't be a Light because I have them, therefore so and so will be a Darkness. But I'm also pretty sure that Yen Sid said that the Seven Lights were chosen naturally, so you can't just substitute someone in; if Terra is one of the Lights, then supposedly they can't replace him and they're just going to be short one light. I think this is what's up. I think so okay ;; god this game is so confusing asdfjkl.
Who are the Lights even supposed to be, again?
Sora
Riku
Mickey
Kairi (?)
Aqua (?)
Ven (?)
Terra (?)

Past Sora and Riku (and I guess Mickey), I seriously have no idea. Kairi’s already been a Princess of Light, so can she count for this? I assume she must because otherwise, why would they have her turn up at the end of 3D. The previous trio seems like an obvious assumption but it’ll be a lot of work to bring them back. I don’t know who else could count, though. I’m assuming Lea won’t count because I think he’s a little too close to the side of Darkness to be Light. He was a Nobody (in-between) when he came into the series and I’m pretty sure from one of his lines in 3D, he has no problem using the Darkness to get what he wants. (He says something about going to save Riku if Riku doesn’t come back from the Darkness when he goes to get Sora or something. I can’t remember his exact words but he was essentially saying “Well, [doing things in the Darkness] is all I’m good at so I can help”. I don’t think he’ll be a Light. He also wasn’t supposed to have a Keyblade (and thus may not have been destined for the “good” side), so if the Lights were predestined, that counts him out too.
I personally think the Seven Lights would be Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Lea and Kairi. Or at least initially. It'll probably turn into Sora, Riku, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Terra and Roxas/Kairi just like in the KH3D opening.
The 3D opening is probably the best example of who the Lights will be, actually. Can’t really figure out why they’d bother showing it that way otherwise. :x I think Kairi is more likely than Roxas. If Roxas were a light, I feel like Xion would be too and then it gets complicated because then they have to vote someone off the island to make room. The vote is unanimously Terra.
you know how I am though, always having to insert the BbS trio into everything so maybe he has a different reason :/ omg he better not touch either aqua or especially ven or I will murder him viciously omg. I mean at least Aqua can defend herself, Ven is still in a lost-heart coma and can't defend himself at all. lol ven is the damsel in distress XD The point still stands that even if he knows where Ven is, there's no way he can get to him. So I think we're okay there but idk maybe they'll just try to destroy CO with Ven in it. I wouldn't put it past MX, the prick.
I think Ven is too important to try to destroy. :B Besides, if what I said above somewhere is right, getting rid of Ven might get rid of Vanitas and I’m almost certain Vanitas will be one of the 13 Darknesses. Why else would he even be shown in 3D if he wasn’t coming back? And what other reason would he come back for?
dying @ using larxene's somebody jsyk XD
….Larx might make a pretty good Dark, lmao. Only problem is, if she ever found out Xehanort was trying to turn her into a clone of himself or anything of the sort, she’d probably flip out on him. XD; But otherwise she fits the part!
Sora's Keyblade
...wait a minute. waaaaaaaaait a minute. There is a obvious dilemma here. so when Ven wakes up, does that mean Sora won't be able to use the Keyblade anymore? ;____;
Yeah, it’s either outright said or heavily implied that Sora won’t be able to use the Keyblade anymore if Ven isn’t with him. :x I don’t know why this is said to be an issue, though. Dude, if Lea can get a Keyblade, I don’t understand how it would be problematic for anyone to hand their Keyblade to Sora and initiate him again or something. XD;
Well, I was thinking about at the end of KHII, at the part where Sora and Riku shoot a magical beam of yaoi shoot light out of the Kingdom Key through Xemnas, that Sora was holding the Keyblade at the same time as Riku, and Riku was actually, you know, chosen to wield a Keyblade, through the Rite of Succession, so maaaaaaaybe Sora got the ability to wield a Keyblade that's not Ven's through that? And I know that supposedly masters are the only ones who can do it, but technically Terra wasn't a master when he did it with Riku, so maybe this is how Sora's going to keep the Keyblade after Ven wakes up. Maybe. look I might just be rambling here asdfjkl

That’s a good point. Sora could’ve gotten the Keyblade legitimately that way… but then why would it have become an issue in 3D? @_@ I feel like if they brought it up so specifically in 3D, it must have been for a reason that will be apparent in the next game.
General 3D Spoilers
Yeah, and Namine had more decisions, both life and game changing, to make in her appearances that effectively give way for development. Kairi was just handled wrong imo, and it really does suck. I don't even know why I like Kairi anymore, but I still do.

There is hope, though! I want her to get more of a role and it seems that with the whole secret ending centering on her possible development, she can actually do much more this time. Yeah maybe they'll make another Roxas like 7-days scenario for Kairi, but this time with her narrating what's happened so far in her point of view while training with the Keyblade or something. That would be awesome! Even better if she maintains a huge role throughout. People might get turned off though with another draggy lengthy tutorial for them, but not me.

So true. I'm surprised Riku didn't call foul.
It wouldn't even have to be a lengthy tutorial. 3D's lasted like 5 minutes before it just tossed you into the game. (Seriously, there was NO lead-in for this game. @_@ Maybe it's supposed to mimic dropping off to sleep, how it just happens suddenly?) They could easily get away with a quick tutorial. Could even do it COM-style with her sparring against someone (I guess probably Riku) who's just blocking all her hits to make sure she knows what she's doing. They could timeskip it so she's already learned the basics and is putting it all together or something.

He should've, but I guess the scene was ridiculous enough without drawing attention to Lea's creepy.
I always thought the coat did nothing, but if it does then I guess that's why Mickey and Riku were using it or something. And the Lea getting a Keyblade thing surprised me too, but then it was apparently hinted in the trailers anyway and I failed to sense it at all, haha.

For a moment there I was unable to sense the sarcasm between you two. XD
I forget when it was, but in one of the Ultimania interviews for a game, Nomura said that the coats protect peoples’ hearts from the Darkness. So that’s why Riku and Mickey wore them, but I think the association with darkness is why the Organization had them. It was more for show with them because they had no hearts to deteriorate through the use of Corridors of Darkness.
That thing is pretty useful though. It protects the heart from darkness, doesn't it? So I doubt he'll ditch the thing. Then again, I thought he'd never ditch his chakrams, but apparently he's going to replace them with his keyblade. omg THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT THREW ME FOR A LOOP OMG. I was like "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?" like Sora and Riku and everyone else omg XD

And besides I think it's pronounced differently in japanese. I KNOW THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME OMG didn't you know rikku got possessed by xehanort once? IT'S TRUE TOTALLY LEGIT. :/ really we're not all idiots asdfjkl
That it does, although an interview that came out a few days ago (either from the Ultimania or ) seems to imply that it doesn’t do as good a job as the fandom assumed? Lea apparently went to Disney Castle because it was his best chance at meeting up with Mickey and getting a Keyblade, I guess. Otherwise he didn’t want to travel much through the Darkness, even with the coat. So he might get rid of it if he decides not to use the Corridors. I think it would be AWESOME to play as Lea if he used both weapons though. Story-wise, it’s probably in his best interest to publicly hide the fact that he has a Keyblade (so that he doesn’t become more of a target for the ‘Norts), so maybe he’ll use chakrams for a while yet.

Yeah, there’s a different pronunciation. Rikku has a pause between the Ks so it does sound different. (Think like the pause in “bookcase”.) But there’s no such difference in English. XD;
Am I the only one who really doesn't like Lea's Keyblade? asdfjkl when I saw it the blade part sort of looked like a chicken to me and I died, okay
I don’t mind it because although it’s not as classy as Bond of Flame was in KH2, it’s a hell of a lot better than Flame Rascal or whatever the fugly Keyblade Ven gets after meeting Lea is called. XD;
Oh God I should prepare myself for a completely confusing late game once again. I agree that I should play it first but you actually describe it pretty well. It all sounds like the climax kept happening within those cutscenes around the YMX fight. Everything that's acting like a short burst of climax after that, when you're expecting everything to fall into their places like any good plot, would indeed feel tacked on. So I guess having yet another boss that doesn't even explain itself before the fight (and touches on, seemingly, an evil Ven of all things) would be pretty disappointing. On the other side of this, I sure do prefer a full-on battle, instead of just a cutscene of Riku fighting dark Ven armor-slash-Sora, even if it feels tacked on. I don't want another Roxas TWTNW cutscene, haha.
It's a KH game... of course you should! Aside from two or three weird cutscenes, I felt the rest of the game was pretty straight forward so it felt just weird up until the end with not much to confuse you with. But yes, the fight with YMX and scene right after is definitely the climax so everything that came later just felt a bit out of place. I liked all the content, it just felt like it didn't really belong as well.

The Nomura interview that released the other day pretty much said that this was a fight he asked them to add on last minute because it “made more sense as a fight”. And I mean, yeah, it did, but now I have an explanation for why it felt so tacked on. Because it was. X_x;
NA Additions
Lemme ask y'all a question.
Do you think SE gonna add anything new to the US version of KH3D like they did in Kh1, and KHBBS?

To me, Im not so sure I dont think they wont unless it is a new secret boss to a new KH game or so. Tbh, I hope there isnt a Final mix of the game mainly it isnt a main game its like CoM, if they do anything with KH3D it might be a RE, or something, and Nomura did say he has no plans for it at the moment, and he seems more focus on maybe the "mystery KH game" or the 10th anniversary for NA, EU. etc. Also there is FFVersus13. I just hope Kh3 comes out soon, I mean I love all these KH games, but I want to see Xehanort to go down.
No, I don’t think they will. At most, they might add a cutscene or two in (or change some lines) to make the overall story less confusing, but I can’t really think of anything they can add. I mean, I guess they might add stickers or something, but the game just doesn’t feel like it needs a Final Mix so I can’t think of anything they could really add to the English version to merit a re-release in Japan.

But I’d say 3D is more of a “main” game than any of the other spinoffs so far. I was arguing this with someone on another website, but of all the games in the series that aren’t numbered, this one adds the most to the plot.
spoiler: Days, BBS, Re:Coded
The only thing arguably important in COM was Riku’s story (as much as I hate to admit it). In Days, nothing new was brought to the table—the game focussed entirely on Roxas and Xion, both of whom are irrelevant after the tutorial of KH2 and Xion doesn’t even exist in anyone’s memory after the game. BBS, the only thing really important (no matter how much I love everyone) is Master Xehanort. His actions are the only ones that reeeally affect the story later on and MX is the only one important to the plot of 3D. Re:Coded is arguably important because it takes place after KH2 and the ending does hint at where the series is/was going, but when the entire game is only “important” because of one ending cutscene… yeah. I kind of discount it.

spoiler: 3D
But 3D? MX is back, the whole 13 Darknesses + 7 Lights, Riku is a Keyblade Master, and Lea being a Keyblade Wielder. That’s all going to be pretty important in KH3, so I think people who try to play KH3 while only playing the numbered games will be really confused if they don’t play 3D at the very least.
English Trailer
GUYS THEY RUINED MY FAVOURITE PART OF THE WHOLE TRAILER WITH THE ENGLISH VERSION. ;____;
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzfc4kWIkM1qzo7dyo1_500.png
Roxas is supposed to get the catchphrase wrong. :( The verb tense is supposed to be a little off which I thought was hilariously dorky and now he doesn’t seem so derp. Aww.

Also, is it just me or did a lot of the voices just sound flat and… I dunno… bad? Maybe it’ll be better in the actual game but wow a lot of the acting in this trailer sounded really half-assed. And I don’t like YMX’s voice. ;_;
Well, you at the very least should've left the 3D off. We wouldn't want you to get sick over a video game! -hugs- Hun, I didn't understand the majority of those cutscenes and I'm not even on anything asdfjkl. yeah that's probably why asdfjkl. Do you even remember the whole game XD
I was watching the trailer that came out today and there were a few scenes I did not recognize. XD; ;
That trailer looks awesome, though I do wish that the mouth movements matched the voice acting...they're off...
I think the lip flap will match just fine in the game, but for the trailer, all they did was dub over the original Japanese trailer. You’ll notice all the gameplay videos are in Japanese so I think they just didn’t bother remaking the trailer entirely for the English crowd. Actual game should be better. Hopefully. (The only game that never matched lipflap was Re:COM and that’s because the cutscenes were all pre-rendered [which is why they were blurry] so they couldn’t be changed from the Japanese mouth settings.)
(yeah, the last two of those were only in spoiler tags because it was really hard to read this post otherwise. XD)
General Stuff
no spoilers. just saving space for people scrolling on past. also formatting. :x
It actually felt fresh, the platforming was sort of cool, the BBS + Days fusion was okay, but honestly, I don't know why I enjoyed it enough. Haha, maybe I just wasn't that serious of a KH gamer and just liked its uniqueness and random quirks, like the huge references to KH, the random but drastically different mini-games and being a bad copy of COM and such. Well, to each his own, I suppose. I actually wouldn't mind just knowing the plot of Re:Coded and opting not to play it, haha.

I'm the only person? I don't know what that says about me, haha.
I'll admit, the boss battles and different world formats were really different, and kind of interesting... but I was so bad at almost all of them so I just did not enjoy them. Like, I hated the side-scrolling Traverse Town, the shootemup Wonderland (?), the turn-based Coliseum, and so on. XD; Not a fun time for me.

I kept trying to think of a way to word it that didn't sound like I thought you were absolutely crazy. Not sure I managed. Sorry! XD;
Oh is that so? What happened to the numbered KH team, whatever they were called? I always thought Osaka = console KH and other teams = spinoffs but I think I'm mixing them up. Gah this is all confusing.
Yeah, pretty sure Osaka did BBS, so I think they did 3D (and Re:Coded ;_;) too. *looks this up*

Okay, apparently Osaka and Tokyo merged into "1st Production Department" in Fall 2010, so several months after BBS came out. I guess it was both, now. XD They're in charge of FF XIII's series, FFVII, Dissidia, and KH. So I guess everything popular that isn't Dragon Quest.
Man what is up with the false info they're feeding us? But yeah, FMs are easy money for them, so if they're not busy they might as well earn some more dough from the same title. Just don't include a false secret ending this time. Or better yet, apply the rule for easy money to BBSv2! :D
They must know they have tons of pathetic fans like me who will buy pretty much anything they put out in the KH series. ;_; It's easy money since they really just have to change the voice track, squeeze in an extra boss fight or two, and make a new secret movie and I will buy wahtever they put in front of me. /baaaw
I always thought he does that whenever the interviewer gives him a weird look with his Nomura answers. Yes he has trademark Nomura answers that tease more than clarify pretty much. But yeah, I don't want him to brush off something as huge as BBSv2!
Yeah, that's probably the case but he still sounds so damn smug when he laughs away the game that was set to be my favourite in the series noooo whyyyy. ;_;
think it was in KHII. I know it was in some game before BbS and that it got nerfed in BbS. omg omg every time I fought Vanitas I would set him on fire because I HATE VANITAS, OKAY and it was so fun omg. Love love loveBbS battle mechanics, it's easily the best in the series as far as that goes <3 omg omg i know right wasn't Ghost Drive the one where you teleported everywhere? and god Dark Impulse I DON'T LIKE YOU took me foreverrrrrr to kill Terranort because of you asdfjkl. Wingblade definitely wins asdfjkl.
Was it a Summon ability maybe? Mushu perhaps? I dunno. It definitely wasn’t a magic spell so I feel it had to have been a Summon… or else a Limit with someone if it was in KH2. I know it was in COM but a whole lot of sleights were in COM and I never paid any attention to them. (When my roommate was playing through Re:COM the other month well, I say he was playing but I took the controller from him when he was stressing me out with how bad he was and I ended up beating half the game for him, I was really surprised to see so many commands from BBS listed under sleights since a lot of them I’d thought were brand new to the series. XD;

Ghost Drive teleported you in a circle at the end of it but otherwise, it just pulled frames out of your animations to make it look like you were teleporting. I haaaated it. It’s better in 3D though. And yeah, Dark Impulse was annoyiiing. I didn’t like using it (the finisher missed all the time) and it was just… ugh.


KH1 NA - Sephiroth Fight, Phantom Fight, and Kurt Zisa fight. (I think that is all it)

KhBBS - Mysterious Figure Fight, New Keyblades, New D-Link "Pete", Critical Mode, New Songs on the Ice Cream Beat, Crown Stickers.

Mainly cause of these adds on the game they created Final Mix (thought Final Mix has a few other adds too that we didnt get), KH2FM was created cause they wanted to bundle it up with Re:CoM and the thought it would of sold more with Re:CoM cause KH2FM had alot of adds but they thought they wanted a 3D adaption of KHCoM.
Also, in KH Days they changed the Multiplayer system around. In the original, you HAD to play it with another person. They added a solo mode to the English game though, so you could still complete it even if you didn’t know anyone else with a copy.
O-okay, because I know some of the fandom jumps on the yaoi fangirls for supposedly "making the fanbase look insane" but I'm not a crazy yaoi fangirl I swear ;;
To be fair, most of them do make the fanbase look insane, but if you get past the ridiculous ones and the people who are like “DISNEY SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME SO IT’S MORE BADASS”, the fandom is absolutely delightful!
...hun what on earth possessed you to ship marulxia/nami? DID XEHANORT DO IT. VENXNAMI OTP. butbutbut ZACKXAERITH OTP butbutbut SORIKU OTP ASDFJKL
.__. I ship really weird things, usually. It’s only in the last few years I’ve started shipping anything that has like… romantic fluff involved, lmao.
so so so he would like cuddle with it at night and then during the day he would completely neglect it omg ;; kasdhg;dslkfjklsdhfkjgka your drawings are the best drawings asdfjkl
It would follow him around everywhere and everyone would make fun of him for it so he’d always look at it with feigned disgust but as soon as everyone leaves he’d stoop down, pet it, and give it a treat for putting up with him. T_T /ooc head-canon

(thank you ♥)
Ok, I check this thread after weeks of forgeting, and I find 2 pages filled with mostly fangirl text-walls xp

Anyway, today's my b-day! Decided to get a 3ds instead of waiting till the end of summer for to get it along w/ kh3d
Our bad. 8D; (A-although it’s not all fangirling! There’s a lot of legitimate discussion which is what has taken me like 4 hours to write this post, if you don’t count getting stuck on a plot point and deeply considering it all weekend. XD)

Happy belated birthday! Glad you won’t have to wait any longer than necessary for 3D. :D What colour did you get?
New as in pre order stuff or game stuff? I know we got a Ventus thingy from GS for BBS
Wait, what? I know they gave out decals for your PSP if you preordered BBS here (I didn’t get a chance to so I had to buy the decals later, lol) but I don’t remember anything else. D:
Why dont you play through all the games in the lead up to it so the story and such is fresh in your mind! someone should totally do this..Lightning...Sakura...
I may or may not already be debating which order I want to replay the games in before 3D comes out in English. I just played KH2 a few months ago though, so I’m not too keen on playing it again.

FINAL FANTASY

FF7 Compilation
BUT. My favorite FF character in KH and my favorite FF character overall is ZACK SKDLGHSDL:KFHSDGLKFJSLDKHFKSDHG:LKSDFJHSDLKFHSKL:GHSD:KFJSDK I HAVE ALMOST AS MANY FEELS FOR ZACK AS I DO FOR VEN OKAY I just asdfjkl the only game I've bawled more over than BbS is Crisis Core because

spoiler: Crisis Core
THAT ENDING WORST ENDING TO ANY GAME EVER SLKDHFSD:KLFSDHGKFJASLKD:HDGSDKFJ I WAS BAWLING OKAY THEY SHOT HIM IN COLD BLOOD AND ONE OF THEM STOOD OVER HIM AND SHOT HIM IN THE HEAD SLKDFJSDK
Oh my god I cried so hard when I finished Crisis Core. I have never been so emotional over a video game. I remember the next day, I had a doctor’s appointment and my mom went with me and I started tearing up just remembering what I’d played through the night before and my mom got so worried that something was seriously wrong. XD;;

The part that always got to me the most was the slots thing? How it goes through all of your friends and none of them can help you and Aerith’s shows up RIGHT AS YOU DIE and can’t kick in fast enough. /cries forever
My favourite thing that I've seen with Zack is when
Advent Children Complete Spoiler
Is when Sephiroth is kicking the s--- out of Cloud and Zack comes in and is like, need a hand man? Don't forget bro, your my living legacy, youre not allowed to die.
That was awesome.
T_T I’d totally forgotten that was even a scene. I’ve been meaning to watch this again sometime. I don’t think my brother ever saw the Complete version so maybe I’ll see if he wants to watch it with me this week. But awww, Zack, he’s such a good sport about everything. I love him. Best FF protagonist.
Speaking of KHII, I was annoyed that Aerith sounded awful in it. I absolutely adore Aerith and she deserved a better voice actress than that (she did get one eventually, see Crisis Core). Leon was also pretty cool even though I never finished VIII, and I can say whatever character development he got in VIII, it certainly showed in the KH series since he seems less glum and more friendly.
oh my god there are no words for how much I hate Aerith’s English voice in KH2 and Advent Children. It’s just so boring and lifeless and DULL. She’s supposed to be light and playful. Mandy Moore did a good job in KH1 and CC Aerith was great, but ugggh the in-between was just horrible.
ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK OHGOD DON'T GET ME STARTED AGAIN ASDFJKL AND AERITHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OMG SKLFHSD:KLFJSDKGH:DLKFJSDKGDJF ZACKXAERITH OTP
Did you know their Japanese voice actors are married? <3 So cute.
Final Fantasy XIII-2
spoiler: there are actual spoilers in here... it's not just formatting!
Sooo… the last two DLC for FFXIII-2 come out tomorrow and the day after, I think. They feature Lightning and Snow.

I think we’re finally getting the freaking ending now. I’m really annoyed that they withheld it for DLC and I refuse to buy it which sucks because I really do want to know how the game ends. You know. Since I put like ~80 hours into completing it. (Probably more, actually.) I’ll just Youtube an LP of it, I guess, but I really wish they’d have just included the ending in the game. Maybe one day in the future when the DLC is on sale I’ll pick it up but until then, I refuse to give them my money. I feel like if I support this here and now, it’ll just invite them to keep pulling this sort of crap with their future games.
I should not have to pay for the ending to the game I already paid $80 for, Square-Enix.

OTHER STUFF
Im never going to get a PSP ill just have to find me an emulatorrrrr.
I don’t think there are any PSP emulators. :( :(
I orgasmed at seeing Cloud and Sephy in AC. Such amazing animation.
I’m sure you can think of more appropriate ways to word that. Let’s keep it clean, okay? But welcome to the club!

That is a huge problem, I don't want to alienate people at all! But yes 3D is largely increasing the KH-centric activity. I'm actually starting to consider going back to separate clubs, I'll make sure to be active in both of them and force encourage people to do so too! There's actually tons of things to talk about FF, now that I think of it. But there are dedicated TWEWY fans or maybe even Dragon Quest fans and they'd get left out if we go splitting the club into its major components so I don't know.
Well, I think the only time we've ever talked about Dragon Quest was to literally ask the question "...has anyone even played this?" So I dunno. TWEWY comes up often enough but I feel like worst case, it could be contained in a thread for it in Video Gaming. Every time it does come up, it only gets one or two posts before the topic changes. Hmm.

:/ Do we want to keep this thread all in one? Is anyone really opposed to splitting it? I think at this point it makes more sense to split them up because the back-and-forth for each series drowns out the other. There’s so much to talk about right now and it’s hard finding a balance. Any opinions?


hahaha before I formatted this, it was 16 pages in word (http://a.yfrog.com/img832/2006/byld.png). /COLLAPSES

Riku
May 15th, 2012, 07:12 PM
Is it really Gallagher doing YMX in KH3D? I really think he was just referring to that one liner in BBS that was spoken, i.e. "This world is just too small."

But I do like YMX's voice here either way. And regarding the Tron: Legacy cast, I still hate how emotionless the old guy (Kevin Flynn) was in the trailer when he said he never saw the Keyblade. It's as if he didn't care about it at all, haha.



Yeah. Pretty sure. I know KHI posted an interview with him from Conji 2012 this year where he said he was voicing a "...relatively small role in the game that's not out yet... Xehanort. Young Xehanort?" or something to that effect... Granted, he was grinning ear to ear when he said "small role," so he might have just been being pretty facetious about the size of the part, idk =b

ソラ
May 15th, 2012, 08:14 PM
oh my god I put this off because I was having trouble getting my thoughts about a certain part down and then the posts kept building up and then I had no time to write this reply on the weekend and AAAH now this will take me forever. ;_; Here we go.

I’m formatting this by topic since I thought that worked really well that last time Cid had a ton of stuff to catch up on. XD;

KINGDOM HEARTS

Vanitas
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D

My only issue with that is that is that we actually see inside Terranort's heart in BBS's secret ending. I think it was the secret one... where Terra and MX are staring each other down, arguing over who will inevitably take control of the body? They also imply Eraqus is there, I think, so I can definitely see the parallels to Sora what with taking in people in need but... I don't remember Vanitas ever being there or even hinted at. It would certainly make more sense than Sora at that point.

But. Vanitas looks just like Sora. I'm pretty sure when MX split Ven and Vanitas in the first place, both of their hearts (? does Vanitas have one? whatever, his equivalent, I mean) were shattered and incomplete. It was Sora who shared his heart with Ven so that Ven didn't die, and I assumed that accidentally spread over to Vanitas too which is why he looks like Sora. I can't really think of another explanation for it, unless he's some sort of reflection like Xion was supposed to be and can take on different appearances but then why would he take on Sora's?

I think it's significant that Terranort/Xehanort/WHOEVER harbours hearts as well. It doesn't really come up in 3D but I think it'll be a thing eventually. (If it did come up in 3D, it went totally over my head. Which is quite possible--those kinds of things are pretty deep and always got me a bit confused in the other games when I played them in Japanese. xD) When Vanitas appears to Sora, Nomura said in a Famitsu interview this week that he only takes form because he's reacting with Ven's heart. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean and I think he was being intentionally vague about it. He said otherwise, Vanitas has no form. :s

I think they just needed a Keyblade Wielder so if Terra didn’t pan out, they’d use her, but I don’t think she was ever all that viable. She never had any traces of darkness in her like Terra did, so it would be soooo much more work to break her instead. I think MX would’ve just gone ahead with the 13 Darknesses thing instead of whatever he was doing in BBS. I think Ven and Vanitas are tied together, though. They were separated but they still share the same heart is what I’m thinking… which is why Ven told Terra and Aqua to kill him when they were all together in Keyblade Graveyard and why he had to take Vanitas on in his heart at the end of his story.

I thought he was gonna be another Riku Replica-type too and then all the way through Terra’s story kept going “OMG WHY DOES HE SOUND SO MUCH LIKE SORA.” Thankfully, I did not pay attention during the credits when Sora’s VA came up as Vanitas’s so I don’t think I was spoilt for that. XD; It was more an “ohhhh THAT’S whose voice it was!” when he was finally de-masked.
Why Do All The Characters Suck At Remembering Past Events
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded, 3D

If DiZ wasn't literally in Re:Coded (ie, in the journal), then it's only because he chose not to be. Inserting the data into Jiminy's Journal was his idea, I'm pretty sure. He mentions the data insertion when he's standing on the beach in Sora's heart with Riku at the end of 3D. (That is SUCH a weird sentence.) But maybe I'm mixing things up? 'Cause I can't think of why he'd know what message to tell Namine unless he managed to dig something up about TAV. :/ Unless Namine found links in Sora's memories to them and told him about it. I imagine he probably wanted regular reports about how the rebuilding of Sora's memories was doing. (It just occurred to me now that I've been saying Sora's heart got broken+rearranged in COM all this time... I've actually meant memories every time. That's exciting. More on that later!) But Coded was really confusing, now that I think about it. The journal took Riku's form, Roxas was there, Namine was there being more omnipotent than usual... x_X; I feel like I'm forgetting a lot of really important details from this game. I need to do a canon refresh on it, ugggh.

Also, okay, I can see why they'd hide things from Sora then. He would just bolt out the door to go save them the moment he found out they were potentially in danger or something. And he'd probably come running in 10 minutes later "...wait... where are they!?"


It’s never been stated anywhere, no. That’s why I’ve always been so confused on the matter. Depending when/if he knows who he is and what he’s done and what he wants to do, it really changes how the series is viewed. If he knows from the start and leaves Braig in the dark about everything right up until the moment he takes his heart, then he’s a lot more cunning than everyone else in the series assumes. If he only remembered who he was as the Apprentices started losing their Hearts to become Nobodies, he doesn’t seem quite as threatening. Definitely a threat of sorts, yes, but it also means he’s vulnerable to losing control and that’s important.

I doubt anyone remembers that LS is even around. Since Sora so forgot to tell an adult.

sdklfjuslkdjfljesl efSLKFJDSKLFS ORGANIZATION NORTEEN. /dead
spoiler: Days, BBS

I think Xemnas is probably the Terranort with the most memories of Terra in him. He remembers Aqua and refers to her as a “friend” during KH2FM when he visits her armour in Radiant Garden. He’s concerned with finding Ven in C.O. since he keeps sending Axel there. The only thing that weirds me out about this assumption is that Xemnas specifically sees Xion as Sora. You’d think he’d see her as Ven like Xigbar does since if he’s got more of Terra’s memories than the other ‘Norts, wouldn’t Ven be his closest connection to Sora? :s

Actually, I guess Xehanort/Xemnas must know that Ven’s in C.O. since he keeps sending Axel to look for the room he’s in in Days. But how does he know? It’s stated somewhere that Xemnas found C.O. and took it as another base… was he looking for Land of Departure because he figured that’s where Aqua would have left Ven? :/ Only explanation I can think of. Which then brings back the “how much did Xehanort (+ others) remember?” thing.
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded

They’re similar but… they aren’t that similar. I mean, they have similar personalities but they don’t look alike and it seems really weird to assume that Ven’s with Sora after like 10 years of probably not thinking about him much. :s

There was definitely a death glare! (Although with Ven, it’s not much of a death glare, it’s more of a pout glare.) That’s pretty much Namine’s line of thought! Aqua was not so keen on it though. :(

Yeah so… no excuse for them, I think. XD Everyone else, they would have met him (and the others) so briefly that it wouldn’t leave much of an impression but I find it hard to believe they’d totally forget everything about Ven. Must’ve been Namine.
spoiler: BBS

She promised she wouldn’t go get him until she could bring Terra back to wake him up with her. She doesn’t break her promises. ;~;
358/2 Days
spoiler: Days

Days kind of confuses me because it's not like they ran out of time or anything. Because of the game mechanics, you'd do something like 3-4 days in a row based on what missions you took on, and that way they let you do things in your own order to some extent. So for those, it makes sense that nothing important would happen in-between those days because it could potentially mess with who was around for missions that you left for later and whatnot but... there's no excuse for when it skips ahead 20-30 days every so often. Even I wouldn't want to do that many daily missions but they didn't all have to be Organization missions. :/ There was plenty of room timeline-wise to do things, they just skipped out on it. Maybe the DS cartridge was already packed to the brim and they honestly couldn't fit anything else in (I might have heard something to this effect--it could also explain why they never released an FM for it... since no extra content would fit anyway) but... I dunno. It really does feel like they missed out on a lot of things that could have explained more in KH2 or given more throwbacks to BBS or something.
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D

w-well, I was coming up with this awesome theory about why he was overthrowing the Org and was reading the journal entry to see if it could help me… and pretty much all it says is “why did Axel kill Vexen??” Marluxia, he killed him because you ordered him to you idiot WHY DO YOU THINK. >:( It made me drop my theory because if he can’t get his head around that, there’s no way he’s smart enough to have come up with what I was thinking fml. XD

Lmao Axel. ;_; You are so inappropriate.

Yeah, the Org sees Xion with her hood up. I don’t think they can see her as anything else since I’m not sure the hood is really a hood. That makes no sense but like… I remember the scene right before Xion and Axel become friends where all three of them are up on the Clock Tower and every time the scene shows just her and Roxas, her hood is down, but if the scene shows all three of them, the hood is up. She’s not taking it on and off just because she trusts Roxas to let him see her face… Axel is just literally seeing her with the hood on no matter what. So I don’t think taking the hood off would even be possible for a lot of people because it’s not even there, necessarily. They just see it regardless. But if it can be done, my guess is she probably just looks like Sora (who she is supposed to be a doll based on) or some featureless doll.


Awwwwww, Axel! ;_; That scene. And Xion trying so hard to not sound emotional too. ;_; *pets them both*

Inifinite hoods is kind of the greatest idea ever. This is my new headcanon. Way better than what I said.
3D
spoiler: I'm going to assume anyone who's spoilt themselves for 3D also knows the rest of the series' plot. EVERYTHING.
(spoiler-ception!)

Nobodies & Hearts

Okay, so here's where that thing I said about memories and hearts gets interesting.

We've always been told that Nobodies are without hearts, because their hearts were forcibly removed and now inhabit a Heartless somewhere. Because they lack hearts, they also lack feelings and empathy and all those corny things that are associated with emotion. This is a really confusing definition though because it's pretty clear by the end of COM/Days/KH2 that some of the Nobodies show clear signs of emotion--Namine is seen crying as Sora falls asleep at the end of COM, Xion cries in Days, I think Roxas cries in Days (and doesn't understand what tears are xD), and Axel is shown crying just before he fades away in KH2FM when they add the extra scene at the top of the Clock Tower in Twilight Town. (...they also have happytimes but crying is a more difficult emotion to fake, I'll say. XD) You could even argue that other Nobodies, like Demyx, Larxene, or Vexen, show emotion before they die--they were both in a state of disbelief or panic as they faded, compared to others who didn't really seem to to be too distressed about it (Xemnas, Marluxia, Saix).

3D gives the explanation for that: Nobodies may be created/born without hearts, but hearts are not a solely "natural" phenomenon. They can be created out of nothing because they're formed from shared experiences with people you care about: memories. Axel/Roxas/Xion had strong ties to one another and cared about one another, so they ended up with hearts in the end. Roxas and Xion are harder to see it in because I'm convinced Roxas actually had (at least access to) Ven's heart during his time as a Nobody and Xion is a reflection of Sora, so it might be easier for them to show emotion... but Axel? If you read his entries in the secret reports in Days, it's so obvious that he slowly gets [a] heart back as you read them chronologically. He goes from not caring about anything at all to seriously worrying about Xion/Roxas and questioning the fact that he feels like he has emotions again. He got his heart from befriending Roxas and Xion.

Memories are definitely tied to the heart. The members at C.O. in COM were stationed there to study the heart and what to they do? Pretty much everything in that game is tied to memories, be it Namine playing with Sora's or implanting fake ones in Riku Replica. That implantation essentially gave Riku Replica a heart--those were definitely not fake emotions and he had no clue that he wasn't real until they forced him to see it. Then, when Naminé "broke" him so he wouldn't kill Sora, he managed to come back, presumably because whatever had formed in him was his own, not just memories falsely implanted. There are also a lot of lines about the heart and memories in this game and I remember a few years ago I was coming up with a theory about this but never really got anywhere with it. (I remember being really intrigued by the story in Halloween Town in COM regarding hearts.) I feel like I need to go back and look into all this now because it might actually be relevant. :D

I don't really know what happens to Nobodies who gain hearts. Lea--I think--remembers everything from being a Nobody, so I assume his hearts just merged or something. Or hearts aren't literally hearts? Maybe what everyone refers to as a heart is moreso a connection of shared memories than a (meta)physical object. So it wasn't that Lea now had two hearts when he revived, he just had more memories to add to the ones that made up his original heart. I hope that's not too confusing (it is) but I can't really explain it too well since my ideas on this are pretty shaky to begin with. XD; They definitely said that Nobodies grow new hearts, though.

I think Xigbar was explaining, but Xemnas was standing right there and the rest of the conversation (“;_; HOW COULD YOU USE EVERYONE LIKE THAT. THEY HAD HEARTS AFTER ALL.”) was aimed at him.
Thirteen Darknesses & Seven Lights

Who are the Lights even supposed to be, again?
Sora
Riku
Mickey
Kairi (?)
Aqua (?)
Ven (?)
Terra (?)

Past Sora and Riku (and I guess Mickey), I seriously have no idea. Kairi’s already been a Princess of Light, so can she count for this? I assume she must because otherwise, why would they have her turn up at the end of 3D. The previous trio seems like an obvious assumption but it’ll be a lot of work to bring them back. I don’t know who else could count, though. I’m assuming Lea won’t count because I think he’s a little too close to the side of Darkness to be Light. He was a Nobody (in-between) when he came into the series and I’m pretty sure from one of his lines in 3D, he has no problem using the Darkness to get what he wants. (He says something about going to save Riku if Riku doesn’t come back from the Darkness when he goes to get Sora or something. I can’t remember his exact words but he was essentially saying “Well, [doing things in the Darkness] is all I’m good at so I can help”. I don’t think he’ll be a Light. He also wasn’t supposed to have a Keyblade (and thus may not have been destined for the “good” side), so if the Lights were predestined, that counts him out too.

The 3D opening is probably the best example of who the Lights will be, actually. Can’t really figure out why they’d bother showing it that way otherwise. :x I think Kairi is more likely than Roxas. If Roxas were a light, I feel like Xion would be too and then it gets complicated because then they have to vote someone off the island to make room. The vote is unanimously Terra.

I think Ven is too important to try to destroy. :B Besides, if what I said above somewhere is right, getting rid of Ven might get rid of Vanitas and I’m almost certain Vanitas will be one of the 13 Darknesses. Why else would he even be shown in 3D if he wasn’t coming back? And what other reason would he come back for?

….Larx might make a pretty good Dark, lmao. Only problem is, if she ever found out Xehanort was trying to turn her into a clone of himself or anything of the sort, she’d probably flip out on him. XD; But otherwise she fits the part!
Sora's Keyblade

Yeah, it’s either outright said or heavily implied that Sora won’t be able to use the Keyblade anymore if Ven isn’t with him. :x I don’t know why this is said to be an issue, though. Dude, if Lea can get a Keyblade, I don’t understand how it would be problematic for anyone to hand their Keyblade to Sora and initiate him again or something. XD;

That’s a good point. Sora could’ve gotten the Keyblade legitimately that way… but then why would it have become an issue in 3D? @_@ I feel like if they brought it up so specifically in 3D, it must have been for a reason that will be apparent in the next game.
General 3D Spoilers

It wouldn't even have to be a lengthy tutorial. 3D's lasted like 5 minutes before it just tossed you into the game. (Seriously, there was NO lead-in for this game. @_@ Maybe it's supposed to mimic dropping off to sleep, how it just happens suddenly?) They could easily get away with a quick tutorial. Could even do it COM-style with her sparring against someone (I guess probably Riku) who's just blocking all her hits to make sure she knows what she's doing. They could timeskip it so she's already learned the basics and is putting it all together or something.

He should've, but I guess the scene was ridiculous enough without drawing attention to Lea's creepy.

I forget when it was, but in one of the Ultimania interviews for a game, Nomura said that the coats protect peoples’ hearts from the Darkness. So that’s why Riku and Mickey wore them, but I think the association with darkness is why the Organization had them. It was more for show with them because they had no hearts to deteriorate through the use of Corridors of Darkness.

That it does, although an interview that came out a few days ago (either from the Ultimania or ) seems to imply that it doesn’t do as good a job as the fandom assumed? Lea apparently went to Disney Castle because it was his best chance at meeting up with Mickey and getting a Keyblade, I guess. Otherwise he didn’t want to travel much through the Darkness, even with the coat. So he might get rid of it if he decides not to use the Corridors. I think it would be AWESOME to play as Lea if he used both weapons though. Story-wise, it’s probably in his best interest to publicly hide the fact that he has a Keyblade (so that he doesn’t become more of a target for the ‘Norts), so maybe he’ll use chakrams for a while yet.

Yeah, there’s a different pronunciation. Rikku has a pause between the Ks so it does sound different. (Think like the pause in “bookcase”.) But there’s no such difference in English. XD;

I don’t mind it because although it’s not as classy as Bond of Flame was in KH2, it’s a hell of a lot better than Flame Rascal or whatever the fugly Keyblade Ven gets after meeting Lea is called. XD;

It's a KH game... of course you should! Aside from two or three weird cutscenes, I felt the rest of the game was pretty straight forward so it felt just weird up until the end with not much to confuse you with. But yes, the fight with YMX and scene right after is definitely the climax so everything that came later just felt a bit out of place. I liked all the content, it just felt like it didn't really belong as well.

The Nomura interview that released the other day pretty much said that this was a fight he asked them to add on last minute because it “made more sense as a fight”. And I mean, yeah, it did, but now I have an explanation for why it felt so tacked on. Because it was. X_x;
NA Additions

No, I don’t think they will. At most, they might add a cutscene or two in (or change some lines) to make the overall story less confusing, but I can’t really think of anything they can add. I mean, I guess they might add stickers or something, but the game just doesn’t feel like it needs a Final Mix so I can’t think of anything they could really add to the English version to merit a re-release in Japan.

But I’d say 3D is more of a “main” game than any of the other spinoffs so far. I was arguing this with someone on another website, but of all the games in the series that aren’t numbered, this one adds the most to the plot.
spoiler: Days, BBS, Re:Coded
The only thing arguably important in COM was Riku’s story (as much as I hate to admit it). In Days, nothing new was brought to the table—the game focussed entirely on Roxas and Xion, both of whom are irrelevant after the tutorial of KH2 and Xion doesn’t even exist in anyone’s memory after the game. BBS, the only thing really important (no matter how much I love everyone) is Master Xehanort. His actions are the only ones that reeeally affect the story later on and MX is the only one important to the plot of 3D. Re:Coded is arguably important because it takes place after KH2 and the ending does hint at where the series is/was going, but when the entire game is only “important” because of one ending cutscene… yeah. I kind of discount it.

spoiler: 3D
But 3D? MX is back, the whole 13 Darknesses + 7 Lights, Riku is a Keyblade Master, and Lea being a Keyblade Wielder. That’s all going to be pretty important in KH3, so I think people who try to play KH3 while only playing the numbered games will be really confused if they don’t play 3D at the very least.
English Trailer
GUYS THEY RUINED MY FAVOURITE PART OF THE WHOLE TRAILER WITH THE ENGLISH VERSION. ;____;
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzfc4kWIkM1qzo7dyo1_500.png
Roxas is supposed to get the catchphrase wrong. :( The verb tense is supposed to be a little off which I thought was hilariously dorky and now he doesn’t seem so derp. Aww.

Also, is it just me or did a lot of the voices just sound flat and… I dunno… bad? Maybe it’ll be better in the actual game but wow a lot of the acting in this trailer sounded really half-assed. And I don’t like YMX’s voice. ;_;

I was watching the trailer that came out today and there were a few scenes I did not recognize. XD; ;

I think the lip flap will match just fine in the game, but for the trailer, all they did was dub over the original Japanese trailer. You’ll notice all the gameplay videos are in Japanese so I think they just didn’t bother remaking the trailer entirely for the English crowd. Actual game should be better. Hopefully. (The only game that never matched lipflap was Re:COM and that’s because the cutscenes were all pre-rendered [which is why they were blurry] so they couldn’t be changed from the Japanese mouth settings.)
(yeah, the last two of those were only in spoiler tags because it was really hard to read this post otherwise. XD)
General Stuff
no spoilers. just saving space for people scrolling on past. also formatting. :x

I'll admit, the boss battles and different world formats were really different, and kind of interesting... but I was so bad at almost all of them so I just did not enjoy them. Like, I hated the side-scrolling Traverse Town, the shootemup Wonderland (?), the turn-based Coliseum, and so on. XD; Not a fun time for me.

I kept trying to think of a way to word it that didn't sound like I thought you were absolutely crazy. Not sure I managed. Sorry! XD;

Yeah, pretty sure Osaka did BBS, so I think they did 3D (and Re:Coded ;_;) too. *looks this up*

Okay, apparently Osaka and Tokyo merged into "1st Production Department" in Fall 2010, so several months after BBS came out. I guess it was both, now. XD They're in charge of FF XIII's series, FFVII, Dissidia, and KH. So I guess everything popular that isn't Dragon Quest.

They must know they have tons of pathetic fans like me who will buy pretty much anything they put out in the KH series. ;_; It's easy money since they really just have to change the voice track, squeeze in an extra boss fight or two, and make a new secret movie and I will buy wahtever they put in front of me. /baaaw

Yeah, that's probably the case but he still sounds so damn smug when he laughs away the game that was set to be my favourite in the series noooo whyyyy. ;_;

Was it a Summon ability maybe? Mushu perhaps? I dunno. It definitely wasn’t a magic spell so I feel it had to have been a Summon… or else a Limit with someone if it was in KH2. I know it was in COM but a whole lot of sleights were in COM and I never paid any attention to them. (When my roommate was playing through Re:COM the other month well, I say he was playing but I took the controller from him when he was stressing me out with how bad he was and I ended up beating half the game for him, I was really surprised to see so many commands from BBS listed under sleights since a lot of them I’d thought were brand new to the series. XD;

Ghost Drive teleported you in a circle at the end of it but otherwise, it just pulled frames out of your animations to make it look like you were teleporting. I haaaated it. It’s better in 3D though. And yeah, Dark Impulse was annoyiiing. I didn’t like using it (the finisher missed all the time) and it was just… ugh.

Also, in KH Days they changed the Multiplayer system around. In the original, you HAD to play it with another person. They added a solo mode to the English game though, so you could still complete it even if you didn’t know anyone else with a copy.

To be fair, most of them do make the fanbase look insane, but if you get past the ridiculous ones and the people who are like “DISNEY SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME SO IT’S MORE BADASS”, the fandom is absolutely delightful!

.__. I ship really weird things, usually. It’s only in the last few years I’ve started shipping anything that has like… romantic fluff involved, lmao.

It would follow him around everywhere and everyone would make fun of him for it so he’d always look at it with feigned disgust but as soon as everyone leaves he’d stoop down, pet it, and give it a treat for putting up with him. T_T /ooc head-canon

(thank you ♥)

Our bad. 8D; (A-although it’s not all fangirling! There’s a lot of legitimate discussion which is what has taken me like 4 hours to write this post, if you don’t count getting stuck on a plot point and deeply considering it all weekend. XD)

Happy belated birthday! Glad you won’t have to wait any longer than necessary for 3D. :D What colour did you get?

Wait, what? I know they gave out decals for your PSP if you preordered BBS here (I didn’t get a chance to so I had to buy the decals later, lol) but I don’t remember anything else. D:

I may or may not already be debating which order I want to replay the games in before 3D comes out in English. I just played KH2 a few months ago though, so I’m not too keen on playing it again.

FINAL FANTASY

FF7 Compilation

Oh my god I cried so hard when I finished Crisis Core. I have never been so emotional over a video game. I remember the next day, I had a doctor’s appointment and my mom went with me and I started tearing up just remembering what I’d played through the night before and my mom got so worried that something was seriously wrong. XD;;

The part that always got to me the most was the slots thing? How it goes through all of your friends and none of them can help you and Aerith’s shows up RIGHT AS YOU DIE and can’t kick in fast enough. /cries forever

T_T I’d totally forgotten that was even a scene. I’ve been meaning to watch this again sometime. I don’t think my brother ever saw the Complete version so maybe I’ll see if he wants to watch it with me this week. But awww, Zack, he’s such a good sport about everything. I love him. Best FF protagonist.

oh my god there are no words for how much I hate Aerith’s English voice in KH2 and Advent Children. It’s just so boring and lifeless and DULL. She’s supposed to be light and playful. Mandy Moore did a good job in KH1 and CC Aerith was great, but ugggh the in-between was just horrible.

Did you know their Japanese voice actors are married? <3 So cute.
Final Fantasy XIII-2
spoiler: there are actual spoilers in here... it's not just formatting!
Sooo… the last two DLC for FFXIII-2 come out tomorrow and the day after, I think. They feature Lightning and Snow.

I think we’re finally getting the freaking ending now. I’m really annoyed that they withheld it for DLC and I refuse to buy it which sucks because I really do want to know how the game ends. You know. Since I put like ~80 hours into completing it. (Probably more, actually.) I’ll just Youtube an LP of it, I guess, but I really wish they’d have just included the ending in the game. Maybe one day in the future when the DLC is on sale I’ll pick it up but until then, I refuse to give them my money. I feel like if I support this here and now, it’ll just invite them to keep pulling this sort of crap with their future games.
I should not have to pay for the ending to the game I already paid $80 for, Square-Enix.

OTHER STUFF

I don’t think there are any PSP emulators. :( :(

I’m sure you can think of more appropriate ways to word that. Let’s keep it clean, okay? But welcome to the club!


Well, I think the only time we've ever talked about Dragon Quest was to literally ask the question "...has anyone even played this?" So I dunno. TWEWY comes up often enough but I feel like worst case, it could be contained in a thread for it in Video Gaming. Every time it does come up, it only gets one or two posts before the topic changes. Hmm.

:/ Do we want to keep this thread all in one? Is anyone really opposed to splitting it? I think at this point it makes more sense to split them up because the back-and-forth for each series drowns out the other. There’s so much to talk about right now and it’s hard finding a balance. Any opinions?


hahaha before I formatted this, it was 16 pages in word (http://a.yfrog.com/img832/2006/byld.png). /COLLAPSES


I skimmed through it. my head hurts hahah.

Oh yeah about Days, I forgot about that, but yeah.
Sora's voice seems a bit off imo, like HJO's voice but it feels like it isnt, and Lea sounds off too a tiny bit Idk if quinn flynn returned as Lea, but idk. We'll see. and YMX is David WHUT!? there is a emulator of it, but I think you have to use a PSP to play it. Im not sure i can ask my friend said he has it on his computer.

Cherrim
May 15th, 2012, 08:33 PM
I skimmed through it. my head hurts hahah.

Oh yeah about Days, I forgot about that, but yeah.
Sora's voice seems a bit off imo, like HJO's voice but it feels like it isnt, and Lea sounds off too a tiny bit Idk if quinn flynn returned as Lea, but idk. We'll see. and YMX is David WHUT!? there is a emulator of it, but I think you have to use a PSP to play it. Im not sure i can ask my friend said he has it on his computer.
HJO sounds like he's trying to make Sora sound younger. He's growing up too fast for Sora who's only aged like 2 years tops since he first started voicing him, haha. I think Flynn sounds pretty normal. Maybe a little deeper than in the last few games but doesn't sound changed enough to be a different voice actor. Then again, I am NOT used to hearing him as Axel anymore. XD; Keiji Fujiwara is the Axel in my head now, haha.

I think you're thinking of ROMs, not emulators. You can get roms working just fine on a PSP if you know what you're doing and aren't lazy like me... but l don't think there are any emulators that play games (certainly not more recent ones like BBS) at any tolerable fps.

CarefulWetPaint
May 15th, 2012, 10:41 PM
Erik, why do you do this to me. That wall of text was so huge I just decided to look for things directed at me /still dies.

Oh just do it chronologically! I know youd LOVE that experience and that'd mean you wouldnt hit KH2 for awhile again! (Do it!)

That scene was the best! How could you forget about it! I think I may watch it again as well After i finish FMA Brotherhood. It's definitely an amazing movie.
That is rather cute those to voice actors are married though *cutenesss will kill me*

Also there must be a PSP emulator somewhere! THERE MUST BE!!!!! If you find one コナンくん please tell me!!

ソラ
May 16th, 2012, 01:22 AM
HJO sounds like he's trying to make Sora sound younger. He's growing up too fast for Sora who's only aged like 2 years tops since he first started voicing him, haha. I think Flynn sounds pretty normal. Maybe a little deeper than in the last few games but doesn't sound changed enough to be a different voice actor. Then again, I am NOT used to hearing him as Axel anymore. XD; Keiji Fujiwara is the Axel in my head now, haha.

I think you're thinking of ROMs, not emulators. You can get roms working just fine on a PSP if you know what you're doing and aren't lazy like me... but l don't think there are any emulators that play games (certainly not more recent ones like BBS) at any tolerable fps.

Yeah maybe we will see maybe it was digitally edited or something, and yeah Lea sounds like Flynn's voice but at some points he sounds similar but not like Flynn idk, Im confused all I know is. JEFF BRIDGES better be voicing his character if not, the voice actor WHO is doing this character matches so well and hopefully be good voice matching :o

Erik, why do you do this to me. That wall of text was so huge I just decided to look for things directed at me /still dies.

Oh just do it chronologically! I know youd LOVE that experience and that'd mean you wouldnt hit KH2 for awhile again! (Do it!)

That scene was the best! How could you forget about it! I think I may watch it again as well After i finish FMA Brotherhood. It's definitely an amazing movie.
That is rather cute those to voice actors are married though *cutenesss will kill me*

Also there must be a PSP emulator somewhere! THERE MUST BE!!!!! If you find one コナンくん please tell me!!

I have a friend who has something like, idk how he plays it, he is using a PSP Emulator with an ISO, but I think you need a psp system to control it or something I'll ask him, and just call me Conan. No need for the Japanese lol.

Magic
May 16th, 2012, 01:51 AM
Final Fantasy XIII-2
spoiler: there are actual spoilers in here... it's not just formatting!
Sooo… the last two DLC for FFXIII-2 come out tomorrow and the day after, I think. They feature Lightning and Snow.

I think we’re finally getting the freaking ending now. I’m really annoyed that they withheld it for DLC and I refuse to buy it which sucks because I really do want to know how the game ends. You know. Since I put like ~80 hours into completing it. (Probably more, actually.) I’ll just Youtube an LP of it, I guess, but I really wish they’d have just included the ending in the game. Maybe one day in the future when the DLC is on sale I’ll pick it up but until then, I refuse to give them my money. I feel like if I support this here and now, it’ll just invite them to keep pulling this sort of crap with their future games.
I should not have to pay for the ending to the game I already paid $80 for, Square-Enix.

Totally agree with this! I haven't bought any of the DLC because I feel like it's such a rip off :/ It's not even like they released them to expand the world after people had finished - since the first lot was released so soon after the game. If the Lightning/Snow one does actually have a definitive ending I will be kind of gutted, although I thought the normal ending was actually quite good.

ソラ
May 16th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Good news: Kingdom Hearts 3D[Dream Drop Distance]: Mark of Mastery Edition.


Kingdom Hearts 3D[Dream Drop Distance] Game
Set of 5 AR cards that unlock rare Dream Eaters and more
Set of 12 art cards reflection the exciting history of the series
Special KINGDOM HEARTS-branded Nintendo 3DS protector Case


http://i.imgur.com/J8NPv.jpg?1

It;'s 54.99 (from what someone told me). Since Japan got around 100+ dollar but it had KH3D, KHdays, and KHCoded with the Art Cards, and Protective case, and such. We aren't getting the games but Kh3D, and we are getting 5 dream eater ar cards, which japan got 2 in the game (frist print), and the special edition, and the 3DS bundle edition in Japan.

Cherrim
May 16th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Totally agree with this! I haven't bought any of the DLC because I feel like it's such a rip off :/ It's not even like they released them to expand the world after people had finished - since the first lot was released so soon after the game. If the Lightning/Snow one does actually have a definitive ending I will be kind of gutted, although I thought the normal ending was actually quite good.
Apparently they do not have definitive endings so the only person I know who actually bought them thinks there will be a FFXIII-3. I don't know what to feel about this.

I hated the ending.
Everyone dies out of nowhere, they don't explain what's going on, and they drop you a cliffhanger with "to be continued". Then you run around collecting all the Paradox Endings and the only extra scene you get hints that Etro (was that the name of the goddess?) isn't actually dead and offers NO closure. And apparently the Snow DLC doesn't even explain what his new focus is all about? x_X If there's one thing I expected from these, it was closure on at least some of the things in the game, if not the whole thing.

Definitely not buying them.
Good news: Kingdom Hearts 3D[Dream Drop Distance]: Mark of Mastery Edition.


Kingdom Hearts 3D[Dream Drop Distance] Game
Set of 5 AR cards that unlock rare Dream Eaters and more
Set of 12 art cards reflection the exciting history of the series
Special KINGDOM HEARTS-branded Nintendo 3DS protector Case


http://i.imgur.com/J8NPv.jpg?1

It;'s 54.99 (from what someone told me). Since Japan got around 100+ dollar but it had KH3D, KHdays, and KHCoded with the Art Cards, and Protective case, and such. We aren't getting the games but Kh3D, and we are getting 5 dream eater ar cards, which japan got 2 in the game (frist print), and the special edition, and the 3DS bundle edition in Japan.
SO EXCITED.

I wasn't going to pick up the English version at all but I'll definitely be pre-ordering this. I can pawn off my English copy to one of my friends but I'm sooo glad I can get all the extras that came with the 10th Anniversary collection in Japan for a fraction of the price and I won't have to buy Re:Coded again! \o/ YES!

(I mainly just want that cover, unf.)

Magic
May 16th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Apparently they do not have definitive endings so the only person I know who actually bought them thinks there will be a FFXIII-3. I don't know what to feel about this.

I hated the ending.
Everyone dies out of nowhere, they don't explain what's going on, and they drop you a cliffhanger with "to be continued". Then you run around collecting all the Paradox Endings and the only extra scene you get hints that Etro (was that the name of the goddess?) isn't actually dead and offers NO closure. And apparently the Snow DLC doesn't even explain what his new focus is all about? x_X If there's one thing I expected from these, it was closure on at least some of the things in the game, if not the whole thing.

Definitely not buying them.

I haven't done all the Paradox endings but I was under the impression (I think from an interview or something?) that the final ending is the 'true' ending and that there will be no sequel.

The 'To Be Continued' thing is likely in reference to the paradox events / DLC rather than the story itself. Depending on when Versus is set it could also be referenced then? I would rather not have XIII-3. Ivalice was much better than Pulse/Cocoon.

CarefulWetPaint
May 16th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Cool Conan if your friend has one point me in the right direction!
And man that edition looks pretty cool, with all that artwork and special case and such (I really don't want to get a 3ds yet but thats making me want one!!!!)

And are you guys actually saying that FXIII didn't have a real ending that made you feel like the game was complete!@!@! Thats ridiculous! Whats the point of a game that has no real ending!?

Cherrim
May 16th, 2012, 05:59 PM
I haven't done all the Paradox endings but I was under the impression (I think from an interview or something?) that the final ending is the 'true' ending and that there will be no sequel.

The 'To Be Continued' thing is likely in reference to the paradox events / DLC rather than the story itself. Depending on when Versus is set it could also be referenced then? I would rather not have XIII-3. Ivalice was much better than Pulse/Cocoon.
I'm pretty sure they said somewhere that they didn't really have plans for a XIII-3 which is why I assumed the DLC had to finish everything up.

I'd be okay with the ending if they hadn't tossed that "to be continued" in.
Well, okay, no, I wouldn't be okay with the ending. That is just depressing. Lightning is annoyingly stubborn when it comes to Serah. There's no way she's just lay down her arms and sit around if she knew something would happen to Serah if everything was fixed. Maybe that's all that's explained . But I'm pretty sure right at the end when Serah sees the changed future and dies because of it, it's implied that it's because the future changed again, so she's seeing a new future rather than the one that's supposed to be.

Unless that's just how I choose to interpret it because it's kind of depressing to go through the whole game just to have everyone die at the end. :(
And are you guys actually saying that FXIII didn't have a real ending that made you feel like the game was complete!@!@! Thats ridiculous! Whats the point of a game that has no real ending!?
Well, plenty of games don't really have endings, but it's just rarely RPGs with heavy story. :P I'd have expected this from FFXIII since I never felt its story was very strong, but XIII-2 handled things so much better all the way up to the end. I just felt the end was very inappropriate/unfitting given the rest of the game.

PokeGirlBel
May 16th, 2012, 06:46 PM
I tried to get into FF 13 but the battle style made me hate it. Sad since the game looked amazing and the beach in 13-2 look wonderful

Cherrim
May 17th, 2012, 11:16 AM
I tried to get into FF 13 but the battle style made me hate it. Sad since the game looked amazing and the beach in 13-2 look wonderful
Aww. :( What about it did you not like?

Riku
May 17th, 2012, 11:29 AM
I'm questioning the worth of the KH3D MoM Edition... Is it really worth the extra 15-20 bucks? :x

The battle system in XIII is kinda boring at first as well as frustrating to a degree for me. The sequel did make improvements though: Love the fact that you can switch leaders from Noel and Serah.

Cherrim
May 17th, 2012, 11:32 AM
Cases are usually $15-20 by themselves. If I remember correctly, they came out with one for Days that featured Xion, Axel and Roxas on the clock tower and it was $25.

So yeah, I'd say so. :x Though if you don't like art, don't care about owning the cards yourself (you'll be able to read them from a computer image when someone inevitably scans them), and won't use the case... no, I doubt it is worth it. XD; But money-wise, yeah, it's definitely worth it.

Riku
May 17th, 2012, 11:40 AM
See, I've already been promised a case for it from a friend once they sell thei 3DS, and it doesn't conflict with the Zelda design of my 3DS xDD; I'd really just be in it for the art cards and AR Cards. Plus, I'm wanting to get the strategy guide, too, and I've already pre-ordered it, so I'm guaranteed a Dream Eater :x

Idk. We'll see when it gets closer to that time :B

Cherrim
May 17th, 2012, 12:38 PM
Ah, well then, I'd just skip out on it. :P The reason I'm so excited about the case is because I couldn't get the limited edition 3DS that came out in Japan (it would have been like $600 with taxes and shipping fml XD) so my DS is bland and boring. So the case is the next best way to show off that I like KH! It's the main reason I want the thing. I don't even know if the AR cards will work with my version of the game (and by then I'll probably have all the Dream Eaters anyway--I think I have all the exclusives save the ones that came out with magazines) and the postcards... well, I'm sure they're lovely but I have the postcards from some of the other game releases and I don't even know where they are... so... XD;

PokeGirlBel
May 17th, 2012, 03:59 PM
Aww. :( What about it did you not like?

Just found the controls for battle hard. The story was pretty interesting though.

Cid
May 17th, 2012, 08:17 PM
I WANT TO REPLY to Lightning's wall of text. I just need time. D:

Yeah. Pretty sure. I know KHI posted an interview with him from Conji 2012 this year where he said he was voicing a "...relatively small role in the game that's not out yet... Xehanort. Young Xehanort?" or something to that effect... Granted, he was grinning ear to ear when he said "small role," so he might have just been being pretty facetious about the size of the part, idk =b
It's also in most of the KH wikis, even in IMDb so it's been a really huge rumor. I actually sat through the whole Anime Conji 2012 interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwpCGLrG1w), caught him saying that. I really think he was only referring to BBS. He doesn't sound like YMX in the KH3D trailer at all. It would be a surprise if it really was him.

Honestly though YMX didn't sound that good.

I skimmed through it. my head hurts hahah.

Oh yeah about Days, I forgot about that, but yeah.
Sora's voice seems a bit off imo, like HJO's voice but it feels like it isnt, and Lea sounds off too a tiny bit Idk if quinn flynn returned as Lea, but idk. We'll see. and YMX is David WHUT!?
I'm currently working on a reply for it right now, haha.

It's still HJO based on that same interview I linked above. He probably hasn't done the voice this long for quite a while and maybe was out of practice. Lea still sounds the same, in my opinion.
HJO sounds like he's trying to make Sora sound younger. He's growing up too fast for Sora who's only aged like 2 years tops since he first started voicing him, haha. I think Flynn sounds pretty normal. Maybe a little deeper than in the last few games but doesn't sound changed enough to be a different voice actor. Then again, I am NOT used to hearing him as Axel anymore. XD; Keiji Fujiwara is the Axel in my head now, haha.
This. I did notice he sounds as if he raised Sora's voice a little, or just made his delivery of lines more child-like. And that's understandable. You pretty much play the games in Japanese most of the time. XD

That is rather cute those to voice actors are married though *cutenesss will kill me*
This was a pleasant thing I recently found out from Lightning. So cute.

Totally agree with this! I haven't bought any of the DLC because I feel like it's such a rip off :/ It's not even like they released them to expand the world after people had finished - since the first lot was released so soon after the game. If the Lightning/Snow one does actually have a definitive ending I will be kind of gutted, although I thought the normal ending was actually quite good.
I heard the normal ending was horrible. It just paved way for DLCs and cemented the fact that most of FFXIII-2 was just a pile of scraps from all the "This feature will be unlocked by an upcoming DLC." or something. And I hear the last DLC has an even worse ending. D:

What is happening to Final Fantasy? :(

Good news: Kingdom Hearts 3D[Dream Drop Distance]: Mark of Mastery Edition.


Kingdom Hearts 3D[Dream Drop Distance] Game
Set of 5 AR cards that unlock rare Dream Eaters and more
Set of 12 art cards reflection the exciting history of the series
Special KINGDOM HEARTS-branded Nintendo 3DS protector Case


http://i.imgur.com/J8NPv.jpg?1

It;'s 54.99 (from what someone told me). Since Japan got around 100+ dollar but it had KH3D, KHdays, and KHCoded with the Art Cards, and Protective case, and such. We aren't getting the games but Kh3D, and we are getting 5 dream eater ar cards, which japan got 2 in the game (frist print), and the special edition, and the 3DS bundle edition in Japan.
I probably won't get this. I really want that case and the rare Dream Eaters but yeah. :'(

Apparently they do not have definitive endings so the only person I know who actually bought them thinks there will be a FFXIII-3. I don't know what to feel about this.

I hated the ending.
Everyone dies out of nowhere, they don't explain what's going on, and they drop you a cliffhanger with "to be continued". Then you run around collecting all the Paradox Endings and the only extra scene you get hints that Etro (was that the name of the goddess?) isn't actually dead and offers NO closure. And apparently the Snow DLC doesn't even explain what his new focus is all about? x_X If there's one thing I expected from these, it was closure on at least some of the things in the game, if not the whole thing.

Definitely not buying them.
That was quite expected. Not that anyone would buy all the DLC that probably sums up to almost twice the price of the game itself.

It's like they have a warped version of rewarding the player, by not giving them a clear ending where the heroes succeed, which would have left you a warm impression that you did not waste all those hours poured into the game to see the ending. I mean, that's how it was always supposed to work. I don't get it. D:

I haven't done all the Paradox endings but I was under the impression (I think from an interview or something?) that the final ending is the 'true' ending and that there will be no sequel.

The 'To Be Continued' thing is likely in reference to the paradox events / DLC rather than the story itself. Depending on when Versus is set it could also be referenced then? I would rather not have XIII-3. Ivalice was much better than Pulse/Cocoon.
Ivalice > Pulse/Cocoon. I sure wish they realize this. I don't even want them to make a sequel in the FFXIII universe anymore. :( Unless they unbelievably pull it off well enough.

I'm pretty sure they said somewhere that they didn't really have plans for a XIII-3 which is why I assumed the DLC had to finish everything up.

I'd be okay with the ending if they hadn't tossed that "to be continued" in.
Well, okay, no, I wouldn't be okay with the ending. That is just depressing. Lightning is annoyingly stubborn when it comes to Serah. There's no way she's just lay down her arms and sit around if she knew something would happen to Serah if everything was fixed. Maybe that's all that's explained . But I'm pretty sure right at the end when Serah sees the changed future and dies because of it, it's implied that it's because the future changed again, so she's seeing a new future rather than the one that's supposed to be.

Unless that's just how I choose to interpret it because it's kind of depressing to go through the whole game just to have everyone die at the end. :(

Well, plenty of games don't really have endings, but it's just rarely RPGs with heavy story. :P I'd have expected this from FFXIII since I never felt its story was very strong, but XIII-2 handled things so much better all the way up to the end. I just felt the end was very inappropriate/unfitting given the rest of the game.
Gah. They were probably making the game without a definitive ending. I'm sure it was all okay until the idea of DLCs hit them.

It's sad because I actually liked FFXIII's battle system. It almost looked as if they improved it in the sequel.

Cherrim
May 17th, 2012, 09:11 PM
I WANT TO REPLY to Lightning's wall of text. I just need time. D:
I know that feel.
It's also in most of the KH wikis, even in IMDb so it's been a really huge rumor. I actually sat through the whole Anime Conji 2012 interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwpCGLrG1w), caught him saying that. I really think he was only referring to BBS. He doesn't sound like YMX in the KH3D trailer at all. It would be a surprise if it really was him.

Honestly though YMX didn't sound that good.
Actually, KH Insider is saying Benjamin Diskin might be YMX. (Apparently you can't link to specific news articles there but should be on the front page, still (http://www.khinsider.com/). I have no idea who this guy is. XD;
I heard the normal ending was horrible. It just paved way for DLCs and cemented the fact that most of FFXIII-2 was just a pile of scraps from all the "This feature will be unlocked by an upcoming DLC." or something. And I hear the last DLC has an even worse ending. D:
Even worse? I haven't really heard much about the endings for the new DLC except that they don't finish off the story like I expected they would. I'm so not buying them, though, so I should really just look them up on Youtube tomorrow.
That was quite expected. Not that anyone would buy all the DLC that probably sums up to almost twice the price of the game itself.
Yeah, one friend I have who's been keeping up with all the DLC religiously says he's spent about as much on that as he did on his collector's edition of the game. And that thing ain't cheap. :P
It's sad because I actually liked FFXIII's battle system. It almost looked as if they improved it in the sequel.
Honestly, if you liked XIII's battle system, XIII-2 is worth the money. It's pretty cheap now (I've seen it $15 used some places) and the battle system is just amazing. It takes everything that was good in XIII and improves it and everything that fell short (no switching party leader in battle, having to wait so long to go wherever you want in the crystarium, etc.) has been fixed. The game itself is a lot more open and engaging plot-wise. It had a disappointing ending, for sure, but getting there was so satisfying. :x

Cid
May 17th, 2012, 09:51 PM
First reaction was, who the heck is Benjamin Diskin? XD But I think I heard him as Harm in Young Justice (don't judge me) and his voice was okay-ish there. I don't know about YMX. And weren't they supposed to translate "Issho ni ikou." as "We'll go together." instead of "Come with me." for that scene at the end of the trailer? Why would they mess that up. D:

I sort of get that impression around the internet, surfing as my only basis.
I was reading a blog post (http://bluehighwind.blogspot.com/2012/05/final-fantasy-xiii-2-dlc-special.html) about it.

Sigh. I pity your friend. Then again if I loved a franchise that much, had the dedication and money.

I see. I did like seeing the videos that described it, especially the gameplay. I'm not sure if the time-travel plot sounds entirely engaging but I guess I'll manage. And you're right, it really is all about getting there. I'll just pretend the ending didn't happen.

Cherrim
May 17th, 2012, 09:59 PM
First reaction was, who the heck is Benjamin Diskin? XD But I think I heard him as Harm in Young Justice (don't judge me) and his voice was okay-ish there. I don't know about YMX. And weren't they supposed to translate "Issho ni ikou." as "We'll go together." instead of "Come with me." for that scene at the end of the trailer? Why would they mess that up. D:
Omg did they really? I think by that point I was still baaawing over the failed Roxas-trying-to-quote-Axel translation. It's definitely supposed to parallel Riku (?) in the first game, right? x_X This isn't the first time they've botched a translation that was supposed to match up with something earlier. Though I guess this isn't as bad as transliterating the Organization's original names wrong in KH2. (I was only reminded of this when I was on Braig's kh wiki page the other day and saw his name was originally Bleig in english lmaooo.)
Sigh. I pity your friend. Then again if I loved a franchise that much, had the dedication and money.
As I told him: I can't really judge him because if they ever do this with KH, they will get all of my money. All of it. As if they haven't already.

Though, I guess I sort of can judge him a bit because if XIII-2 is successful with this DLC business model, you just know they're gonna apply it to all their games.
I see. I did like seeing the videos that described it, especially the gameplay. I'm not sure if the time-travel plot sounds entirely engaging but I guess I'll manage. And you're right, it really is all about getting there. I'll just pretend the ending didn't happen.
I could probably tell you the exact moment to turn off your TV and stop watching the end to be content. They had a perfectly good ending point (wouldn't wrap up every loose end but wouldn't be super depressing) at one time. :P

Cid
May 17th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Omg did they really? I think by that point I was still baaawing over the failed Roxas-trying-to-quote-Axel translation. It's definitely supposed to parallel Riku (?) in the first game, right? x_X This isn't the first time they've botched a translation that was supposed to match up with something earlier. Though I guess this isn't as bad as transliterating the Organization's original names wrong in KH2. (I was only reminded of this when I was on Braig's kh wiki page the other day and saw his name was originally Bleig in english lmaooo.)
YES! D: And that Roxas/Axel scene at the Clock Tower you described inside the wall of text, I laughed at the comic and I really wish they kept it. :[ I think it was supposed to be a parallel, then again it was Sora who said that line in the KHII ending. That reminds me. Do I really have to put that in spoilers? It's been ages since KHII was released. But it was also the last line in the first game's secret ending ([Another side, Another story...]) with Kairi's school uniform all prehistoric! I think. So I really believe they should have kept the line. But yeah, they have done some of this in the past, although to a lesser degree. And Bleig, really? XDD

As I told him: I can't really judge him because if they ever do this with KH, they will get all of my money. All of it. As if they haven't already.

Though, I guess I sort of can judge him a bit because if XIII-2 is successful with this DLC business model, you just know they're gonna apply it to all their games.
Please don't make them do this with KH! Especially not KHIII! I will die. D:

That's why they're not supposed to promote this sort of DLC craze. It doesn't do the games any good, it's just easy money for them. :(

I could probably tell you the exact moment to turn off your TV and stop watching the end to be content. They had a perfectly good ending point (wouldn't wrap up every loose end but wouldn't be super depressing) at one time. :P
That would be great. :D And if they did, I can't believe they continued it for the heck of DLCs, I mean, don't they respect the fans enough?

Sakura Rain
May 17th, 2012, 11:54 PM
EDIT: Kingdom Hearts 3D English trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7TtGC0cVE

late but JKLSFHSD:LKSHDKLFJDSKGL:HFJSDLKFJHDS:KALDJ:LKFDSMFKSDLJFESITGJSD:FIEW RIKUUUUUUUU wait, is that actually David Gallagher doing YMX? What.

asdfjkl erica y u so wall of text-y

need to think up proper response DX edit probably coming tomorrow? Two days from now? WHEN IT GETS DONE, OKAY ;;

ソラ
May 17th, 2012, 11:58 PM
late but JKLSFHSD:LKSHDKLFJDSKGL:HFJSDLKFJHDS:KALDJ:LKFDSMFKSDLJFESITGJSD:FIEW RIKUUUUUUUU wait, is that actually David Gallagher doing YMX? What.

asdfjkl erica y u so wall of text-y

need to think up proper response DX edit probably coming tomorrow? Two days from now? WHEN IT GETS DONE, OKAY ;;

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4362/kh3dben.png

Ben Diskin is suspected to be YMX.
But he hasnt confirmed or deny, so we never know

PokeGirlBel
May 18th, 2012, 05:01 AM
I did buy DDD in Japanese but its so weird hearing Disney characters in Japanese that I think I'll just buy KH 3 in english lol

Magic
May 18th, 2012, 06:14 AM
Just found the controls for battle hard. The story was pretty interesting though.

I thought the battle system was pretty flawed ;_; I think I've complained about it here before though.

I just watched the KH:3D Trailer and I still have a hard time liking the series ><. Maybe it's because the trailer didn't really have a path? It felt like an amalgamation of lots of different bits so they could say cliché things about hearts and friends and stuff, idk.

Also, the combination of three different graphics types is horrible. Disney/Western Cartoons, then the more JRPG style original characters, then the more realistic Tron characters... they just don't go together and I think that would drive me up the wall :L.

Were there any FF characters in that 10 minutes orrrrrrrr...? o.O

Riku
May 18th, 2012, 06:47 AM
I guess I might've misunderstood what Gallagher said then. My bad.

Ben also went on later to say this as well:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m47vk16l4D1qcbdpro1_500.png

My bad gaisu :x

PokeGirlBel
May 18th, 2012, 07:31 AM
SIMON FROM 7TH HEAVEN VOICES RIKU?! I'M JUST NOW FINDING THIS OUT AFTER BEING A FAN OF 8 YEARS?!

*Hides in corner of shame*

ソラ
May 18th, 2012, 07:56 AM
I guess I might've misunderstood what Gallagher said then. My bad.

Ben also went on later to say this as well:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m47vk16l4D1qcbdpro1_500.png

My bad gaisu :x

Dont be sorry yo!
He did sound alot like Gallagher's voice, it is understandable :)
glad we know who plays him right? :D so GOOD NEWS :).

SIMON FROM 7TH HEAVEN VOICES RIKU?! I'M JUST NOW FINDING THIS OUT AFTER BEING A FAN OF 8 YEARS?!

*Hides in corner of shame*

Yup, he does :o I found out maybe when i open the instruction manual of KH1 they have all the voice acting in KH1 instruction manual. Lance Bass(Idk if its Lance Bass from Nsync or some other lance bass) did the voice of Sephiroth in KH1 (did an epic job imo). Anywho, Yeah. Alot of famous actors/Actress was on KH mainly cause it was partly owned by disney lol. Like Mandy Moore, Christy Carlson Romano, Billy Zane (who voiced Ansem in Kh1, but his egotistic personality demanded more money, so they let him go and replaced him with Richard Epcar in Kh2 and so on). But yeah :)

Riku
May 18th, 2012, 08:25 AM
Only bad thing is now, every time I see him, all I'll see is Nigel Uno :c

And in reference to the first KH game, it was actually Lance Bass of 'N Sync that voiced Sephy. And iirc, Sean Astin voiced Hercules. :3

Cid
May 19th, 2012, 02:51 AM
Don't feel bad, SA.
It's not your fault David Gallagher was misleading. Along with a couple of fansites. XD

I want Billy Zane back to voice Ansem, to be honest. He was great at being intimidating, and really put on the seeker of darkness into his character. I wish they didn't put him in their blacklist just because they had conflicting views. And that reminds me, Tarzan! Deep Jungle has to be back in KHIII. Although chances are slim to none.

I really haven't heard much of Numbuh One's voice in Kids Next Door so I'm okay. More on the VAs, Lance Bass sounded odd as Sephiroth. Can't remember how Herc sounded in KH. Mandy Moore was great as Aerith, though. And I actually knew Riku was Simon Camden from 7th Heaven since day one, blame the internet. He's pretty good though.

Yui Hirаsаwа
May 20th, 2012, 12:53 PM
I love Square Enix, its my favorite game company ever. My favorite game they made is Final Fantasy 9 and Kingdom Hearts 2. I love Sora, Roxas and Zidane

CarefulWetPaint
May 20th, 2012, 04:34 PM
I love Square Enix, its my favorite game company ever. My favorite game they made is Final Fantasy 9 and Kingdom Hearts 2. I love Sora, Roxas and Zidane

Welcome to the Club!
Do you have anything to add about whose voicing the characters in the english port of KH3D? I personally don't, as long as the familiar characters have the same or similar voices I would be fine with it. But I would be very disappointed if they don't have the same voice actors. That'd ruin it for me for sure.

Cherrim
May 21st, 2012, 09:36 AM
(Welcome, Hayley!)

I don't really get worked up about voice actor changes in KH anymore. At least, not in the English version. :( They've changed the voices of major characters plenty of times and they're going to keep doing it, so I just have to deal. Thankfully, Sora, Riku and Roxas haven't changed, but poor Namine's gone through like 3 voices now and every time they get big-name actors to do voices (DiZ, MX, etc.), they always end up changing them to lesser-known ones to, presumably, save money as the series goes on. So I don't even know what to think now. Hopefully they'll change Aqua's voice in a future one! *fingers crossed*

Cid
May 22nd, 2012, 01:34 AM
Welcome to the club, Hayley. ;D

I have to contribute to the discussion! Let's see, I really want Aqua's VA to get better or get going. Along with Terra's actually. However, I want Sora, Riku, Kairi and Roxas to still have theirs 'til the end of time. So yeah.

Now everyone, take a deep breath and scroll down.

- - huge reply starts now - -

Erica! So sorry it took 358/2 Days to reply. ;O;

oh my god I put this off because I was having trouble getting my thoughts about a certain part down and then the posts kept building up and then I had no time to write this reply on the weekend and AAAH now this will take me forever. ;_; Here we go.

I’m formatting this by topic since I thought that worked really well that last time Cid had a ton of stuff to catch up on. XD;
Gah I know the feeling. Really there’s so much to talk about and I’m loving it! Only difference is you actually pretty much replied to everything. That takes an enormous amount of effort and time, even I got drained just replying to the last two walls of text or so that one time in the past.

That’s cool, I didn’t know it actually sort of worked. I shouldn’t have removed the quotes there, though, that nullified the organization. Besides, you did the formatting way better. Posting wall of texts like how it should be done. XD;

I apologize if this post lacks that same spiffy formatting, everyone.
I...tried my best.

KINGDOM HEARTS

Vanitas
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D

My only issue with that is that is that we actually see inside Terranort's heart in BBS's secret ending. I think it was the secret one... where Terra and MX are staring each other down, arguing over who will inevitably take control of the body? They also imply Eraqus is there, I think, so I can definitely see the parallels to Sora what with taking in people in need but... I don't remember Vanitas ever being there or even hinted at. It would certainly make more sense than Sora at that point.

But. Vanitas looks just like Sora. I'm pretty sure when MX split Ven and Vanitas in the first place, both of their hearts (? does Vanitas have one? whatever, his equivalent, I mean) were shattered and incomplete. It was Sora who shared his heart with Ven so that Ven didn't die, and I assumed that accidentally spread over to Vanitas too which is why he looks like Sora. I can't really think of another explanation for it, unless he's some sort of reflection like Xion was supposed to be and can take on different appearances but then why would he take on Sora's?

I think it's significant that Terranort/Xehanort/WHOEVER harbours hearts as well. It doesn't really come up in 3D but I think it'll be a thing eventually. (If it did come up in 3D, it went totally over my head. Which is quite possible--those kinds of things are pretty deep and always got me a bit confused in the other games when I played them in Japanese. xD) When Vanitas appears to Sora, Nomura said in a Famitsu interview this week that he only takes form because he's reacting with Ven's heart. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean and I think he was being intentionally vague about it. He said otherwise, Vanitas has no form. :s
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D
The only reason I’m going with the idea that Vanitas is in MX is that he appeared beside MX when Ven reacted to MX inside Sora’s heart. If Vanitas were inside Sora then my logic would demand that Vanitas appear beside Sora instead, or at least pop out without mimicking the exact lines MX said. It is sort of like Xion because part of Ven’s memories probably flooded into her so Braig saw her as Ven, this time it’s Ven/Sora seeing Vanitas in MX. Wait...that comparison was misplaced. ^^;

Anyway, I think Vanitas does have a heart, one of pure darkness created from Ventus and presumably amplified by MX. That could have made him take MX or an incarnation of him as a logical sanctuary if he’s in danger, and I think he would rather choose that than someone all light-filled like Ventus. Besides, Ventus kicked him out of his heart entirely at the end of his story. Then again since Sora has an Anti Form and almost completely falls into darkness in 3D, he could still cradle someone like Vanitas (if he is cradling Vanitas, why would he not appear in Sora's heart world in 3D?). Anyway, my statements are making less sense to the layman by the minute. I think the fact that he looks like Sora does sound like Xion’s case, even though I initially didn’t think it was at all similar. See, I always thought Ventus and Vanitas were separate personas and one wouldn’t directly affect the appearance of the other, but I guess I was wrong. Maybe judging from that same vague Nomura interview that explained the black-haired Sora-face, he took on the form simply because his old shell [Ven] filled its missing cracks with Sora’s something (I still don’t know how Sora performed what he did to Ven’s Dive to the Heart in BBS’s opening, or what Sora even used) and this carried on to the based on Ventus and Vanitas’ link. I’ll just accept that if it’s made like that. You know how vague Nomura is.

I thought 3D would’ve been the right time to make that comparison because Sora was getting turned into a Xehanort in the climax! Why would they miss that chance? Then again if they continue with this storyline in KHIII then it could still come up and be a thing then. That reminds me, I forgot about Eraqus possibly being inside the ThirteenDarknesses!Terra (which could be a version of Terranort, and to an extent, Xehanort) so that kind of solidifies the MX - Sora comparison. With the Famitsu interview, I always thought Vanitas would have form even without Sora meddling. Like, a black-haired Ventus with golden eyes. 8D

Why Do All The Characters Suck At Remembering Past Events
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded, 3D

If DiZ wasn't literally in Re:Coded (ie, in the journal), then it's only because he chose not to be. Inserting the data into Jiminy's Journal was his idea, I'm pretty sure. He mentions the data insertion when he's standing on the beach in Sora's heart with Riku at the end of 3D. (That is SUCH a weird sentence.) But maybe I'm mixing things up? 'Cause I can't think of why he'd know what message to tell Namine unless he managed to dig something up about TAV. :/ Unless Namine found links in Sora's memories to them and told him about it. I imagine he probably wanted regular reports about how the rebuilding of Sora's memories was doing. (It just occurred to me now that I've been saying Sora's heart got broken+rearranged in COM all this time... I've actually meant memories every time. That's exciting. More on that later!) But Coded was really confusing, now that I think about it. The journal took Riku's form, Roxas was there, Namine was there being more omnipotent than usual... x_X; I feel like I'm forgetting a lot of really important details from this game. I need to do a canon refresh on it, ugggh.

Also, okay, I can see why they'd hide things from Sora then. He would just bolt out the door to go save them the moment he found out they were potentially in danger or something. And he'd probably come running in 10 minutes later "...wait... where are they!?"

It’s never been stated anywhere, no. That’s why I’ve always been so confused on the matter. Depending when/if he knows who he is and what he’s done and what he wants to do, it really changes how the series is viewed. If he knows from the start and leaves Braig in the dark about everything right up until the moment he takes his heart, then he’s a lot more cunning than everyone else in the series assumes. If he only remembered who he was as the Apprentices started losing their Hearts to become Nobodies, he doesn’t seem quite as threatening. Definitely a threat of sorts, yes, but it also means he’s vulnerable to losing control and that’s important.

I doubt anyone remembers that LS is even around. Since Sora so forgot to tell an adult.

sdklfjuslkdjfljesl efSLKFJDSKLFS ORGANIZATION NORTEEN. /dead
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded, 3D

Yeah, it makes sense. DiZ is the only guy with actual data-planting knowledge/powers so he must have been involved in most of Re:Coded. Hahaha, weird sentences are a staple in series discussion of course. ;D I bet an average guy reading a Nomura interview from the more recent Ultimania would be befuddled himself. Back on track, I've watched Cyberman65's subbed playthrough and I remember DiZ did mention data stuff there I think. I can't really remember. But I'm really leaning towards Naminé secretly implanting the info on everyone because if I remember correctly, Data Naminé implied that it was Naminé who wanted them to know about the people who were hurting, and was also the one who included the message. I haven't played it for awhile so I might be making that up. Man, this makes me want to go over the plot again.

XD; That would be so much like him. Hahahaha.

I always kept thinking he was still actually Terra but more sinister and with his dark side activated, literally. But I know the canon depicts him as a different person. Still, I'm not liking how everyone has to be Xehanort. =\ It's like the perfect formula to make the villains even more shallow. Finding out Ansem, Seeker of Darkness from the first one was actually just a Heartless of Terranort who had not much past with him ('cept being part-Xehanort so technically his past is Master Xehanort's, but I think 3D depicts them separately), I did not like that. I liked battling him as Aqua in the original BBS ending though. It was really dramatic and made me want to punch Terra's face to return to normal.

And even though I always treated secret bosses as canon they never reflect in the story. Or maybe Sora's just really that forgetful. Hahaha.

Organization Norteen would be like the perfect pre-release fan name since BHK. XD;;

spoiler: Days, BBS

I think Xemnas is probably the Terranort with the most memories of Terra in him. He remembers Aqua and refers to her as a “friend” during KH2FM when he visits her armour in Radiant Garden. He’s concerned with finding Ven in C.O. since he keeps sending Axel there. The only thing that weirds me out about this assumption is that Xemnas specifically sees Xion as Sora. You’d think he’d see her as Ven like Xigbar does since if he’s got more of Terra’s memories than the other ‘Norts, wouldn’t Ven be his closest connection to Sora? :s

Actually, I guess Xehanort/Xemnas must know that Ven’s in C.O. since he keeps sending Axel to look for the room he’s in in Days. But how does he know? It’s stated somewhere that Xemnas found C.O. and took it as another base… was he looking for Land of Departure because he figured that’s where Aqua would have left Ven? :/ Only explanation I can think of. Which then brings back the “how much did Xehanort (+ others) remember?” thing.
spoiler: Days, BBS
True. Since Xemnas was Terra's body and all. And I'll ignore how that may sound weird. Anyway, Xemnas's corruption actually supports my idea that Terranort was just Terra in his darkest, and called his past self using third person. But it's obviously not the case canon-wise. Anyway, your points are quite spot-on. Except I think he just feels Ven as a sort of unexplained feeling that draws him inside C.O. which he doesn't completely get. The fact that he's sending in Axel repeatedly would aim to relieve this otherwise bizarre drive of his. Oh, I don't actually remember Days referring to Xemnas as seeing Xion with Sora's face but I think it would make sense. And he's probably locked Terra's memories deep inside his heart or rid them completely, just his overall Terra-ness stands. Maybe? I don't know, if that makes any sense. As to where the memories could have drifted to, they're probably in the Lingering Sentiment or even in Ansem, Seeker of Darkness (ironically, calling him Xehanort would just be confusing, so I'll use his old moniker, haha).

spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded

They’re similar but… they aren’t that similar. I mean, they have similar personalities but they don’t look alike and it seems really weird to assume that Ven’s with Sora after like 10 years of probably not thinking about him much. :s

Yeah so… no excuse for them, I think. XD Everyone else, they would have met him (and the others) so briefly that it wouldn’t leave much of an impression but I find it hard to believe they’d totally forget everything about Ven. Must’ve been Namine.
spoiler: BBS

She promised she wouldn’t go get him until she could bring Terra back to wake him up with her. She doesn’t break her promises. ;~;

spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded

I agree. Even I wouldn't have guessed it if I hadn't seen BBS's ending. Or maybe I would have because he acted just like Sora. But in the universe, they're pretty much not easy to associate if you're not that close to either or got to observe the similarities. After all, it would be hard to do that with a ten-year gap of vaguely remembering how Ven was.

Actually that presents an interesting point. Then again, Naminé wouldn't do that without being out of character, so never mind that point. Ven is forgettable for them despite the probably mutual D-Link and all. Which doesn't make sense.

You're right about Aqua, though. I guess we have to wait for a long while before we see Ven if that's the case. ;O; Come on Terra go back to your body already! Whichever it may be: Xemnas, Ansem SoD, Terranort, etc. XD

358/2 Days
spoiler: Days

Days kind of confuses me because it's not like they ran out of time or anything. Because of the game mechanics, you'd do something like 3-4 days in a row based on what missions you took on, and that way they let you do things in your own order to some extent. So for those, it makes sense that nothing important would happen in-between those days because it could potentially mess with who was around for missions that you left for later and whatnot but... there's no excuse for when it skips ahead 20-30 days every so often. Even I wouldn't want to do that many daily missions but they didn't all have to be Organization missions. :/ There was plenty of room timeline-wise to do things, they just skipped out on it. Maybe the DS cartridge was already packed to the brim and they honestly couldn't fit anything else in (I might have heard something to this effect--it could also explain why they never released an FM for it... since no extra content would fit anyway) but... I dunno. It really does feel like they missed out on a lot of things that could have explained more in KH2 or given more throwbacks to BBS or something.
spoiler: Days
That part of mission order being optional kind of ruins the canon-feel, although the world visiting from the past games has almost always allowed variation. And since the missions aren't that plot-changing themselves, there really isn't much difference. Besides if there was a problem with the short time span causing inconsistencies, they could just attach the intermediary, possibly important events to the ends of the missions (or better yet, inside them) themselves, or at least make the order more solid if it actually still messes things up. But I definitely agree that the lengthy, almost month-long skips should have perfectly depicted important events in-between. In addition, having other non-affiliated/personal missions would have been perfect to include good characterization, and development both to people and to the plot. All this while still keeping the mission format of the game itself in check. It's really an interesting concept that I didn't think about. But yeah the game definitely needed more throwbacks aside from Ven!Xion. I did hear Nomura wanted to see Days and its story in a proper platform if I'm remembering things right. So there is hope. ;D

spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D

w-well, I was coming up with this awesome theory about why he was overthrowing the Org and was reading the journal entry to see if it could help me… and pretty much all it says is “why did Axel kill Vexen??” Marluxia, he killed him because you ordered him to you idiot WHY DO YOU THINK. >:( It made me drop my theory because if he can’t get his head around that, there’s no way he’s smart enough to have come up with what I was thinking fml. XD

Yeah, the Org sees Xion with her hood up. I don’t think they can see her as anything else since I’m not sure the hood is really a hood. That makes no sense but like… I remember the scene right before Xion and Axel become friends where all three of them are up on the Clock Tower and every time the scene shows just her and Roxas, her hood is down, but if the scene shows all three of them, the hood is up. She’s not taking it on and off just because she trusts Roxas to let him see her face… Axel is just literally seeing her with the hood on no matter what. So I don’t think taking the hood off would even be possible for a lot of people because it’s not even there, necessarily. They just see it regardless. But if it can be done, my guess is she probably just looks like Sora (who she is supposed to be a doll based on) or some featureless doll.

Awwwwww, Axel! ;_; That scene. And Xion trying so hard to not sound emotional too. ;_; *pets them both*

Inifinite hoods is kind of the greatest idea ever. This is my new headcanon. Way better than what I said.
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D

I think some of the secret reports/journal entries were pretty rushed. That is, they were done without checking if this character would not act that way in other games. So yeah, even though Marluxia's stupid line was basically made canon, it probably wasn't intended. Or maybe the guy who wrote the entries forgot that one scene (or even outright haven't played CoM, only knowing major plot points), and blamed Saix for Axel's actions instead (since that's what Zexion thinks according to his report) even though it was Marluxia who ordered him. In other words, I really don't think Marluxia is that much of an idiot. Plus I'd love to hear your theory.

It's actually a sound idea for her hood to not be a conventional hood. I'm leaning towards her hood being an illusion wherein if you try to touch it, your hands will slip through. But inside that hood, it's not easy to think that Sora's in it because it would be awkward for a body wearing feminine features, even donning heels, to have Sora's face. I'm voting for featureless doll or black-haired Kairi or even infinite hoods, just not cross-dressing Sora. XD;

That scene really, so happy they included it. It's evident that Axel already grew his heart back there. So I'm just enjoying the emotions and getting my heart broken from all the shouting. Everyone just needed a hug. ;O;

XD

3D
spoiler: I'm going to assume anyone who's spoilt themselves for 3D also knows the rest of the series' plot. EVERYTHING.
(spoiler-ception!)

Nobodies & Hearts

Okay, so here's where that thing I said about memories and hearts gets interesting.

We've always been told that Nobodies are without hearts, because their hearts were forcibly removed and now inhabit a Heartless somewhere. Because they lack hearts, they also lack feelings and empathy and all those corny things that are associated with emotion. This is a really confusing definition though because it's pretty clear by the end of COM/Days/KH2 that some of the Nobodies show clear signs of emotion--Namine is seen crying as Sora falls asleep at the end of COM, Xion cries in Days, I think Roxas cries in Days (and doesn't understand what tears are xD), and Axel is shown crying just before he fades away in KH2FM when they add the extra scene at the top of the Clock Tower in Twilight Town. (...they also have happytimes but crying is a more difficult emotion to fake, I'll say. XD) You could even argue that other Nobodies, like Demyx, Larxene, or Vexen, show emotion before they die--they were both in a state of disbelief or panic as they faded, compared to others who didn't really seem to to be too distressed about it (Xemnas, Marluxia, Saix).

3D gives the explanation for that: Nobodies may be created/born without hearts, but hearts are not a solely "natural" phenomenon. They can be created out of nothing because they're formed from shared experiences with people you care about: memories. Axel/Roxas/Xion had strong ties to one another and cared about one another, so they ended up with hearts in the end. Roxas and Xion are harder to see it in because I'm convinced Roxas actually had (at least access to) Ven's heart during his time as a Nobody and Xion is a reflection of Sora, so it might be easier for them to show emotion... but Axel? If you read his entries in the secret reports in Days, it's so obvious that he slowly gets [a] heart back as you read them chronologically. He goes from not caring about anything at all to seriously worrying about Xion/Roxas and questioning the fact that he feels like he has emotions again. He got his heart from befriending Roxas and Xion.

Memories are definitely tied to the heart. The members at C.O. in COM were stationed there to study the heart and what to they do? Pretty much everything in that game is tied to memories, be it Namine playing with Sora's or implanting fake ones in Riku Replica. That implantation essentially gave Riku Replica a heart--those were definitely not fake emotions and he had no clue that he wasn't real until they forced him to see it. Then, when Naminé "broke" him so he wouldn't kill Sora, he managed to come back, presumably because whatever had formed in him was his own, not just memories falsely implanted. There are also a lot of lines about the heart and memories in this game and I remember a few years ago I was coming up with a theory about this but never really got anywhere with it. (I remember being really intrigued by the story in Halloween Town in COM regarding hearts.) I feel like I need to go back and look into all this now because it might actually be relevant. :D

I don't really know what happens to Nobodies who gain hearts. Lea--I think--remembers everything from being a Nobody, so I assume his hearts just merged or something. Or hearts aren't literally hearts? Maybe what everyone refers to as a heart is moreso a connection of shared memories than a (meta)physical object. So it wasn't that Lea now had two hearts when he revived, he just had more memories to add to the ones that made up his original heart. I hope that's not too confusing (it is) but I can't really explain it too well since my ideas on this are pretty shaky to begin with. XD; They definitely said that Nobodies grow new hearts, though.

I think Xigbar was explaining, but Xemnas was standing right there and the rest of the conversation (“;_; HOW COULD YOU USE EVERYONE LIKE THAT. THEY HAD HEARTS AFTER ALL.”) was aimed at him.
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
Well at first the reasons I convinced myself to believe were that anyone who gets connected with Sora (to an extent, Roxas) like Xion and Axel get to experience real emotion even without hearts (even believing that maybe that's the magic Sora did to Ven at the start of BBS, but yeah apparently 3D says it's not connected to Sora or his alleged magic). Or at least Axel and Xion secretly hid theirs, because Roxas has no problem since it's very likely that Ven's heart got itself inside him to help him feel like you said. And I also have to add that anger as an emotion definitely proved they had hearts, with Xion's first encounter with Riku, Axel's separate confrontations with Roxas and with Xion, etc. That adding up to sadness and fear which you gave good examples to. :D

But I honestly like 3D's explanation now. It's just sad that they were made to believe following the Organization would be the only way to get them back. But yeah memories do have important connections with one's hearts, I mean, the whole Organization XIII acted their fake emotions even without hearts by their past selves' memories. So it's much bigger of a link than anyone would guess. Even from there, you'd think they'd already have a blueprint of a heart because where would these memories have been located? CoM indicates that the links of memories settle deep inside the heart so that implies that normal memory chains are located in it. And I guess it's just a growing experience: new memories made as a Nobody would have to rebuild this blueprint into an actual shell to place the memories in.

Your concept of heart being just shared memories is actually convincing, and I remember Sora's heart fragments showing memories (mostly of him and Riku which I found really awkward) when Riku was diving into Sora's Dive to the Heart (haha) before 3D's final boss. But even without 3D, Ven's Dive to the Heart certainly explains a lot. His station was basically blank even with Sora's help because his memories were damaged and possibly rested deep inside it. And when he was allowed to stay at The Land of Departure, got to meet Aqua and Terra, and experienced memories once more, his Dive to the Heart shifted to depict the color-coded Wayfinders representing the trio's connections. One more proof would be Kid!Sora's which comparably had less faces from his current one and instead, simply depicted activities during childhood (I vaguely remember a Paopu Fruit and the infamous raft there, for example), basically just Destiny Islands. That and his friendship with Riku interested him then so that composed his memories (reflecting in the station itself). So yeah.

When I watched that scene again with subs, it was actually Xemnas who continued with the talk and did most of explaining the growing hearts, even talking about him lying towards the Organization XIII that they didn't have hearts. Gah, Xemnas is evil. And of course, this triggered Sora's speech (And the best part of it would be "Tsunagaru kokoro ga ore no chikara da!" which was just filled with Sora's emotion. Interesting that from the first KH until BBS was always translated as "My friends are my power!" instead of the literal translation, i.e. "Connected hearts are my power!" ...then again, the usual translation sounds less silly.).

spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
Thirteen Darknesses & Seven Lights

Who are the Lights even supposed to be, again?
Sora
Riku
Mickey
Kairi (?)
Aqua (?)
Ven (?)
Terra (?)

Past Sora and Riku (and I guess Mickey), I seriously have no idea. Kairi’s already been a Princess of Light, so can she count for this? I assume she must because otherwise, why would they have her turn up at the end of 3D. The previous trio seems like an obvious assumption but it’ll be a lot of work to bring them back. I don’t know who else could count, though. I’m assuming Lea won’t count because I think he’s a little too close to the side of Darkness to be Light. He was a Nobody (in-between) when he came into the series and I’m pretty sure from one of his lines in 3D, he has no problem using the Darkness to get what he wants. (He says something about going to save Riku if Riku doesn’t come back from the Darkness when he goes to get Sora or something. I can’t remember his exact words but he was essentially saying “Well, [doing things in the Darkness] is all I’m good at so I can help”. I don’t think he’ll be a Light. He also wasn’t supposed to have a Keyblade (and thus may not have been destined for the “good” side), so if the Lights were predestined, that counts him out too.

The 3D opening is probably the best example of who the Lights will be, actually. Can’t really figure out why they’d bother showing it that way otherwise. :x I think Kairi is more likely than Roxas. If Roxas were a light, I feel like Xion would be too and then it gets complicated because then they have to vote someone off the island to make room. The vote is unanimously Terra.

I think Ven is too important to try to destroy. :B Besides, if what I said above somewhere is right, getting rid of Ven might get rid of Vanitas and I’m almost certain Vanitas will be one of the 13 Darknesses. Why else would he even be shown in 3D if he wasn’t coming back? And what other reason would he come back for?

….Larx might make a pretty good Dark, lmao. Only problem is, if she ever found out Xehanort was trying to turn her into a clone of himself or anything of the sort, she’d probably flip out on him. XD; But otherwise she fits the part!
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
I would love for Kairi to be a Light but it would be somewhat problematic for her because she's also supposed to protect herself, being one of the Princesses of Heart. It would be awesome if she were destined to be one of the Lights nevertheless. As for Roxas, I think he popped out in the 3D opening just to provide closure for each of the three spinoffs (Roxas for Days, TAV for BBS, Mickey and maybe even Sora and Riku for Coded) and after thinking about it, I'm convinced that he's not going to be a Light. But you're right about Lea, except I think we'll still have him filling one of the spots at least before the actual seven are gathered and revealed. After all, they were talking about currently missing two spots (hopefully Kairi fills the other and turns out to be a predestined Light) because, Terra was still apparently one of the Darknesses according to MX's 3D speech. But then if Terra's a predestined Light himself, who would take his place as the predestined Darkness? Along with Sora's empty spot as the 13th Darkness? =\

That reminds me, I wonder how NA will translate the Seven Lights and the Thirteen Darknesses? Haha, Organization Norteen? They're bound to be the central terms for the heroes and villains in KHIII so they might think of a catchier name similar to Organization XIII. Although Juusan Kikan does translate to a worded Organization Thirteen so they probably won't change a thing. I still think the word Darknesses is a mouthful, and not having as much of a ring to it as Org. XIII.

Nah I still think Ven's no longer mortally connected to Vanitas and vice versa. But still, they wouldn't do that to Ven, or else Kingdom Hearts can't be achieved by MX (given the obvious assumption that Ven is a Light). But yeah Vanitas is certainly a Darkness if he's coming back. It would be awesome if he and Sora met. 8D Miyu Irino and Haley Joel Osment will be talking to themselves, haha.

Yeah it would creep Larxene out and drive her crazy, hahaha. If she or her complete self reappears I'll be so happy. :D

spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
Sora's Keyblade

Yeah, it’s either outright said or heavily implied that Sora won’t be able to use the Keyblade anymore if Ven isn’t with him. :x I don’t know why this is said to be an issue, though. Dude, if Lea can get a Keyblade, I don’t understand how it would be problematic for anyone to hand their Keyblade to Sora and initiate him again or something. XD;

That’s a good point. Sora could’ve gotten the Keyblade legitimately that way… but then why would it have become an issue in 3D? @_@ I feel like if they brought it up so specifically in 3D, it must have een for a reason that will be apparent in the next game.

spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
Your point makes so much sense that it's annoying how they show it as a huge problem for Sora. I mean, everyone got a Keyblade, even Kairi who accidentally had hers so couldn't have Sora accidentally inherited the Lingering Sentiment's for example? The moment Sakura mentioned would have been a good time, too! But yeah if he hasn't had a ceremony, it would be so simple to give him one on the spot. Gah, and Sora almost fell into the darkness for this stupidity.

If they say Sora was predestined to be one of the Thirteen Darknesses and can only inherit it from a fellow Darkness as a reason, I would flip out.

For some reason this reminds me of a little theory of mine, you guys know that Ven can have a hacked in Light Seeker in BBS, right? That is exclusively in the Japanese release, I think. Maybe this is a hint that Ven's Keyblade's true form was the Light Seeker/Kingdom Key D and it somehow stayed into the Realm of Darkness. You know, because it tried to help Aqua from the Darksides along with Terra's Keyblade (in the original BBS's final ending). So maybe that's how Mickey got a hold of the Kingdom Key D when he ventured the Realm (see original KH). Yeah, it probably isn't the case, not by a long shot. Still an interesting idea, in my opinion. I just want BBSv2 with Mickey's backstory.

spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
General 3D Spoilers

It wouldn't even have to be a lengthy tutorial. 3D's lasted like 5 minutes before it just tossed you into the game. (Seriously, there was NO lead-in for this game. @_@ Maybe it's supposed to mimic dropping off to sleep, how it just happens suddenly?) They could easily get away with a quick tutorial. Could even do it COM-style with her sparring against someone (I guess probably Riku) who's just blocking all her hits to make sure she knows what she's doing. They could timeskip it so she's already learned the basics and is putting it all together or something.

He should've, but I guess the scene was ridiculous enough without drawing attention to Lea's creepy.

I forget when it was, but in one of the Ultimania interviews for a game, Nomura said that the coats protect peoples’ hearts from the Darkness. So that’s why Riku and Mickey wore them, but I think the association with darkness is why the Organization had them. It was more for show with them because they had no hearts to deteriorate through the use of Corridors of Darkness.

That it does, although an interview that came out a few days ago (either from the Ultimania or ) seems to imply that it doesn’t do as good a job as the fandom assumed? Lea apparently went to Disney Castle because it was his best chance at meeting up with Mickey and getting a Keyblade, I guess. Otherwise he didn’t want to travel much through the Darkness, even with the coat. So he might get rid of it if he decides not to use the Corridors. I think it would be AWESOME to play as Lea if he used both weapons though. Story-wise, it’s probably in his best interest to publicly hide the fact that he has a Keyblade (so that he doesn’t become more of a target for the ‘Norts), so maybe he’ll use chakrams for a while yet.

I don’t mind it because although it’s not as classy as Bond of Flame was in KH2, it’s a hell of a lot better than Flame Rascal or whatever the fugly Keyblade Ven gets after meeting Lea is called. XD;

It's a KH game... of course you should! Aside from two or three weird cutscenes, I felt the rest of the game was pretty straight forward so it felt just weird up until the end with not much to confuse you with. But yes, the fight with YMX and scene right after is definitely the climax so everything that came later just felt a bit out of place. I liked all the content, it just felt like it didn't really belong as well.

The Nomura interview that released the other day pretty much said that this was a fight he asked them to add on last minute because it “made more sense as a fight”. And I mean, yeah, it did, but now I have an explanation for why it felt so tacked on. Because it was. X_x;
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot

I did notice it from the playthroughs but I guess Traverse Town was sort of a tutorial. And yeah, I agree with all that you said. I just want some Kairi inner monologue or something so she gets more of her character into the table. I know I liked Aqua so much more because of what she thought about things and how she reacted, ignoring the fact that she could have used a better VA. But I think I can trust Hayden Panettiere to give her good lines, I really hope they don't get rid of her.

XD

Yeah, until they started growing their own. That's when the coats get their use. It's possible that because Xemnas knew the heart-growing from the start, so he immediately proposed the coat idea (even though the others really wouldn't get it because as you said they don't have hearts that would get corrupted anyway). I guess everyone thought it looked cool anyway (I myself am getting sick of the repeated use of this coat) so they obeyed Xemnas's fashion code.

I want Lea to have new clothes but still use both the chakrams and his new Keyblade. And it would make sense for him to hide the Keyblade use. Maybe he would suddenly be forced to switch places with Terra in a plot twist from Light to Darkness when the bad guys find out he can use the Keyblade while still being more or less linked to Darkness, maybe even using Lea being corrupted by continuous use of the Corridors as a reason for his forced switch of sides, who knows?

Frolic Flame. ;D Rascal Flame was its Japanese name. But yes his new fire-themed Keyblade looks way better (although it does remind me of chicken feathers).

I guess that's why you felt it was rushed. At least Nomura was honest about it.

NA Additions

No, I don’t think they will. At most, they might add a cutscene or two in (or change some lines) to make the overall story less confusing, but I can’t really think of anything they can add. I mean, I guess they might add stickers or something, but the game just doesn’t feel like it needs a Final Mix so I can’t think of anything they could really add to the English version to merit a re-release in Japan.

But I’d say 3D is more of a “main” game than any of the other spinoffs so far. I was arguing this with someone on another website, but of all the games in the series that aren’t numbered, this one adds the most to the plot.
spoiler: Days, BBS, Re:Coded
The only thing arguably important in COM was Riku’s story (as much as I hate to admit it). In Days, nothing new was brought to the table—the game focussed entirely on Roxas and Xion, both of whom are irrelevant after the tutorial of KH2 and Xion doesn’t even exist in anyone’s memory after the game. BBS, the only thing really important (no matter how much I love everyone) is Master Xehanort. His actions are the only ones that reeeally affect the story later on and MX is the only one important to the plot of 3D. Re:Coded is arguably important because it takes place after KH2 and the ending does hint at where the series is/was going, but when the entire game is only “important” because of one ending cutscene… yeah. I kind of discount it.

spoiler: 3D
But 3D? MX is back, the whole 13 Darknesses + 7 Lights, Riku is a Keyblade Master, and Lea being a Keyblade Wielder. That’s all going to be pretty important in KH3, so I think people who try to play KH3 while only playing the numbered games will be really confused if they don’t play 3D at the very least.
If they do release a 3D FM I think they will add at least a secret boss or two along with maybe another scenario like BBS aside from additional cutscenes. But it would only be minimal and just wouldn't be that important.

It's true that 3D outweighs the other spinoffs in importance. I'm thinking they'll just transfer the Mementos feature with KH3D added for KHIII. Or at least use the KHIII opening as a stylistic recap.

English Trailer
GUYS THEY RUINED MY FAVOURITE PART OF THE WHOLE TRAILER WITH THE ENGLISH VERSION. ;____;
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzfc4kWIkM1qzo7dyo1_500.png
Roxas is supposed to get the catchphrase wrong. :( The verb tense is supposed to be a little off which I thought was hilariously dorky and now he doesn’t seem so derp. Aww.

Also, is it just me or did a lot of the voices just sound flat and… I dunno… bad? Maybe it’ll be better in the actual game but wow a lot of the acting in this trailer sounded really half-assed. And I don’t like YMX’s voice. ;_;

I think the lip flap will match just fine in the game, but for the trailer, all they did was dub over the original Japanese trailer. You’ll notice all the gameplay videos are in Japanese so I think they just didn’t bother remaking the trailer entirely for the English crowd. Actual game should be better. Hopefully. (The only game that never matched lipflap was Re:COM and that’s because the cutscenes were all pre-rendered [which is why they were blurry] so they couldn’t be changed from the Japanese mouth settings.)
(yeah, the last two of those were only in spoiler tags because it was really hard to read this post otherwise. XD)

no spoilers.
I love that comic! Roxas looks so adorable getting it wrong like that. :3 I really wish they kept that in the English version and maybe changed the cutscene a little to immediately show Axel smirk from the failed imitation. But I guess not.

YMX did sound bad. But I don't really mind. I always think that for the English cutscenes, the background music takes care of the mood to make it less awful, in case the VA falls flat once in a while. Trailers get rid of that, so what you get is badly edited cutscenes that show the negative parts of the voice acting. Although I do miss emotional Sora and co. who always got their lines spot-on (really evident in the first one). Are they getting payed less since it's not on a console? ;O;

I don't think they just dubbed over the original Japanese one. The lip flap is noticeably different, what they didn't replace was the gameplay portions, they just muted the in-game sounds to not be that noticeable. I'm blaming bad video editing for the awfully matched mouth movement. But yeah I'm hopeful for the actual game to not be this subpar. Also I have to add that Days and Coded also didn't have matched lip flap for obvious reasons.

General Stuff
no spoilers. just saving space for people scrolling on past. also formatting. :x

I'll admit, the boss battles and different world formats were really different, and kind of interesting... but I was so bad at almost all of them so I just did not enjoy them. Like, I hated the side-scrolling Traverse Town, the shootemup Wonderland (?), the turn-based Coliseum, and so on. XD; Not a fun time for me.

I kept trying to think of a way to word it that didn't sound like I thought you were absolutely crazy. Not sure I managed. Sorry! XD;

Yeah, pretty sure Osaka did BBS, so I think they did 3D (and Re:Coded ;_;) too. *looks this up*

Okay, apparently Osaka and Tokyo merged into "1st Production Department" in Fall 2010, so several months after BBS came out. I guess it was both, now. XD They're in charge of FF XIII's series, FFVII, Dissidia, and KH. So I guess everything popular that isn't Dragon Quest.

They must know they have tons of pathetic fans like me who will buy pretty much anything they put out in the KH series. ;_; It's easy money since they really just have to change the voice track, squeeze in an extra boss fight or two, and make a new secret movie and I will buy wahtever they put in front of me. /baaaw

Yeah, that's probably the case but he still sounds so damn smug when he laughs away the game that was set to be my favourite in the series noooo whyyyy. ;_;

Also, in KH Days they changed the Multiplayer system around. In the original, you HAD to play it with another person. They added a solo mode to the English game though, so you could still complete it even if you didn’t know anyone else with a copy.

To be fair, most of them do make the fanbase look insane, but if you get past the ridiculous ones and the people who are like “DISNEY SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME SO IT’S MORE BADASS”, the fandom is absolutely delightful!

I may or may not already be debating which order I want to replay the games in before 3D comes out in English. I just played KH2 a few months ago though, so I’m not too keen on playing it again.
no spoilers. just prepare for tons of lines that more or less reply to the corresponding quote.

I see. I was bad at Gummi Ship Wonderland and turn-based Coliseum, too but I didn't really mind, haha.

Maybe I am. 8D In any case, don't worry about it. ;D

Ah they merged. So no more differentiation needed, haha. But that's a lot of stuff to work on. Dragon Quest is lucky to have the Enix side of SE solely for its releases.

That's not pathetic at all. The more pathetic ones are the people who miss out on it (like me!), in my opinion. We just resort to YT videos. :x

I know right? Why must BBSv2 be such a tease. ;O;

I actually didn't know that. Interesting. And lucky for English-speaking gamers.

I do love the KH fandom. Those people who hate the Disney should just go away though, ahaha.

I want to replay the games before NA 3D so bad. Sadly I don't have the time. D:
I'll probably just rely on the Memoirs feature. :3
I've finally replied to everything KH! That took sooo long. XD

FINAL FANTASY

FF7 Compilation

Oh my god I cried so hard when I finished Crisis Core. I have never been so emotional over a video game. I remember the next day, I had a doctor’s appointment and my mom went with me and I started tearing up just remembering what I’d played through the night before and my mom got so worried that something was seriously wrong. XD;;

The part that always got to me the most was the slots thing? How it goes through all of your friends and none of them can help you and Aerith’s shows up RIGHT AS YOU DIE and can’t kick in fast enough. /cries forever

T_T I’d totally forgotten that was even a scene. I’ve been meaning to watch this again sometime. I don’t think my brother ever saw the Complete version so maybe I’ll see if he wants to watch it with me this week. But awww, Zack, he’s such a good sport about everything. I love him. Best FF protagonist.

oh my god there are no words for how much I hate Aerith’s English voice in KH2 and Advent Children. It’s just so boring and lifeless and DULL. She’s supposed to be light and playful. Mandy Moore did a good job in KH1 and CC Aerith was great, but ugggh the in-between was just horrible.

Did you know their Japanese voice actors are married? <3 So cute.
spoiler: Crisis Core
You reminded me of how awful that scene was. Now I just watched it on YouTube and man. The modulating phase scenes! The way everyone fades into a white silhouette. Only Aerith lasts and then...everything glitches and fails, Zack screams of pain, and Aerith doesn't make it, fades into white too then...it all ends. The feeling of helplessness was just downright depressing. D': And it's even more sad because I knew he was gonna die but I really didn't want him to! And now...I'm reminded of the tears I shed for that game. ;O;
But that appointment, really funny how you described it. XD;
Okay I'm good now. :3

Best FF protagonist indeed. He was awesome in Complete.

spoiler: why was this in a spoiler again? XD;;
It was, absolutely. And the fact that the voice actress didn't know the character at all just makes it worse.

I can't get over how they're actually married!

Final Fantasy XIII-2
spoiler: there are actual spoilers in here... it's not just formatting!
Sooo… the last two DLC for FFXIII-2 come out tomorrow and the day after, I think. They feature Lightning and Snow.

I think we’re finally getting the freaking ending now. I’m really annoyed that they withheld it for DLC and I refuse to buy it which sucks because I really do want to know how the game ends. You know. Since I put like ~80 hours into completing it. (Probably more, actually.) I’ll just Youtube an LP of it, I guess, but I really wish they’d have just included the ending in the game. Maybe one day in the future when the DLC is on sale I’ll pick it up but until then, I refuse to give them my money. I feel like if I support this here and now, it’ll just invite them to keep pulling this sort of crap with their future games.
I should not have to pay for the ending to the game I already paid $80 for, Square-Enix.
spoiler: Final Fantasy XIII-2
I know I've already made my points to this posts ago but I'd like to know if you've already seen the ending yourself. And also your opinion on it.
I'm okay with spoilers but oddly enough I don't plan to actually watch the video on YouTube yet. Not until I at least try out FFXIII-2 (and trust you on guiding me for when I would stop, at the right moment, with no loose ends and just a fulfilling ending, although I'll probably have to see the end of it anyway).

OTHER STUFF
Well, I think the only time we've ever talked about Dragon Quest was to literally ask the question "...has anyone even played this?" So I dunno. TWEWY comes up often enough but I feel like worst case, it could be contained in a thread for it in Video Gaming. Every time it does come up, it only gets one or two posts before the topic changes. Hmm.

:/ Do we want to keep this thread all in one? Is anyone really opposed to splitting it? I think at this point it makes more sense to split them up because the back-and-forth for each series drowns out the other. There’s so much to talk about right now and it’s hard finding a balance. Any opinions?
Aye, I actually never finished any Dragon Quest games, haha. Don't see people discussing them at all (quality of DQ is unrelated because the series is good, just not much KH/FF fans are drawn in). And yeah the conflicting topics sometimes overshadow each other so that's a problem (it's really hard to pick out the posts you want to reply to because it's like finding an FF or TWEWY post in a sea of KH ones and sometimes vice-versa).

I'm okay with splitting but it would be hard to get activity churning for each thread judging history. =\
You can expect me to post in both though! ;D
But I'm also alright with keeping the SE fan club as it is if the majority thinks it's best this way.

hahaha before I formatted this, it was 16 pages in word (http://a.yfrog.com/img832/2006/byld.png). /COLLAPSES
Mine is probably shorter but I still don't want to know how long this is in comparison. It's probably the longest post I've ever made on this forum. XD; I didn't use Word, though. I made it a habit to send myself PMs of the unfinished post and just edit it there. I get to see how it looks like in PC as an added bonus. Oh and it wasn't completely my idea, I was following Ryan's old advice. :D

Yay I finished it. 8D Now I'm absolutely exhausted.

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And now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

CarefulWetPaint
May 22nd, 2012, 08:19 PM
uh... Wall of text makes my eyes bleed.

I just found out SE published Full Metal Alchemist! Are we allowed to talk about stuff they do outside of gaming or just gaming related stuff??
(Fullmetal alch was incredible (especially brotherhood))

Riku
May 23rd, 2012, 12:09 PM
While Youtube surfing today, I came across this little gem. Figured you guys might enjoy it and wanna try it yourself sometime too.

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Also, it's officially confirmed Diskin to be YMX from his Facebook wall post:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64835841/ymxndabyebye.PNG

Cherrim
May 25th, 2012, 11:43 PM
I have to contribute to the discussion! Let's see, I really want Aqua's VA to get better or get going. Along with Terra's actually. However, I want Sora, Riku, Kairi and Roxas to still have theirs 'til the end of time. So yeah.
Kairi's already changed hers at least once before. :( I just know that Hayden Panetierre no longer does her voice which kind of sucks because I loved her Kairi. ;_;
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D
The only reason I’m going with the idea that Vanitas is in MX is that he appeared beside MX when Ven reacted to MX inside Sora’s heart. If Vanitas were inside Sora then my logic would demand that Vanitas appear beside Sora instead, or at least pop out without mimicking the exact lines MX said. It is sort of like Xion because part of Ven’s memories probably flooded into her so Braig saw her as Ven, this time it’s Ven/Sora seeing Vanitas in MX. Wait...that comparison was misplaced. ^^;

Anyway, I think Vanitas does have a heart, one of pure darkness created from Ventus and presumably amplified by MX. That could have made him take MX or an incarnation of him as a logical sanctuary if he’s in danger, and I think he would rather choose that than someone all light-filled like Ventus. Besides, Ventus kicked him out of his heart entirely at the end of his story. Then again since Sora has an Anti Form and almost completely falls into darkness in 3D, he could still cradle someone like Vanitas (if he is cradling Vanitas, why would he not appear in Sora's heart world in 3D?). Anyway, my statements are making less sense to the layman by the minute. I think the fact that he looks like Sora does sound like Xion’s case, even though I initially didn’t think it was at all similar. See, I always thought Ventus and Vanitas were separate personas and one wouldn’t directly affect the appearance of the other, but I guess I was wrong. Maybe judging from that same vague Nomura interview that explained the black-haired Sora-face, he took on the form simply because his old shell [Ven] filled its missing cracks with Sora’s something (I still don’t know how Sora performed what he did to Ven’s Dive to the Heart in BBS’s opening, or what Sora even used) and this carried on to the based on Ventus and Vanitas’ link. I’ll just accept that if it’s made like that. You know how vague Nomura is.

I thought 3D would’ve been the right time to make that comparison because Sora was getting turned into a Xehanort in the climax! Why would they miss that chance? Then again if they continue with this storyline in KHIII then it could still come up and be a thing then. That reminds me, I forgot about Eraqus possibly being inside the ThirteenDarknesses!Terra (which could be a version of Terranort, and to an extent, Xehanort) so that kind of solidifies the MX - Sora comparison. With the Famitsu interview, I always thought Vanitas would have form even without Sora meddling. Like, a black-haired Ventus with golden eyes. 8D
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D
But YMX wasn’t actually there to begin with. I’m pretty sure at that point, Sora’s just hallucinating because he’s still in the world of sleep at that point. I think YMX’s visual was resonating with Ventus’s heart so that [he and Sora together] saw YMX and Vanitas approaching them. I don’t think this really had so much to do with whose heart Vanitas was in and was more about recognizing a danger or something. I didn’t get the vibe that Vanitas’s appearance was actually significant. :s I’m not sure what that scene was supposed to be for. Besides, Vanitas’s heart wouldn’t be in YMX anyway… it would be in Terranort or MX. So I feel like Vanitas’s appearance in that scene doesn’t really say much of anything about where he is.

But how could Vanitas’s form change AFTER they’d been split? I mean, I know this is KH and weird things tend to happen but… that doesn’t make sense to me. Form changes happen all the time, but the only precedence we have for it is when someone else is taking over their heart. Riku changes into Ansem when he accepts darkness into his heart and Ansem sort of makes a home there. Xion changes into Sora when she’s taken most of his memories. Terra changes (partially) into Xehanort when his heart is taken over… all of them took the hearts/essence of the person they changed form to, so to me, it only makes sense that Vanitas took Sora’s form for the same reason. :c

It seems like 3D missed a whole bunch of chances. Now that I look back on it because we discussed it… why the heck did they put Vanitas in that earlier scene? It’s not like there were a LOT of scenes where there were chances for Ventus’s heart to reach out to the outside world. Aside from the scene with Vanitas, the only other time that happens is when Sora’s hallucinating in TWTNW and sees a vision of Riku and Kairi which changes into Terra and Aqua. :s You’d think they’d try to tie that together more or, at the very least, show Vanitas becoming part of the 13 Darknesses which would give him a reason for having shown up in the first place.

Also, I assumed he didn’t show up in the Destiny Islands knockoff in Sora’s heart because that seemed to be more of a sanctuary—Riku only got there after he’d defeated the Darkness that was threatening to engulf Sora. Since Vanitas is Darkness itself, it’s not a stretch to believe that he’d be blocked by the same magic Ven used to keep Sora safe. (Or by the armour. Whatever.) The only people Riku encountered after that point were good guys. I guess. This theory doesn’t really explain DiZ’s presence though. I don’t feel like anything explains that.
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded, 3D

Yeah, it makes sense. DiZ is the only guy with actual data-planting knowledge/powers so he must have been involved in most of Re:Coded. Hahaha, weird sentences are a staple in series discussion of course. ;D I bet an average guy reading a Nomura interview from the more recent Ultimania would be befuddled himself. Back on track, I've watched Cyberman65's subbed playthrough and I remember DiZ did mention data stuff there I think. I can't really remember. But I'm really leaning towards Naminé secretly implanting the info on everyone because if I remember correctly, Data Naminé implied that it was Naminé who wanted them to know about the people who were hurting, and was also the one who included the message. I haven't played it for awhile so I might be making that up. Man, this makes me want to go over the plot again.

XD; That would be so much like him. Hahahaha.

I always kept thinking he was still actually Terra but more sinister and with his dark side activated, literally. But I know the canon depicts him as a different person. Still, I'm not liking how everyone has to be Xehanort. =\ It's like the perfect formula to make the villains even more shallow. Finding out Ansem, Seeker of Darkness from the first one was actually just a Heartless of Terranort who had not much past with him ('cept being part-Xehanort so technically his past is Master Xehanort's, but I think 3D depicts them separately), I did not like that. I liked battling him as Aqua in the original BBS ending though. It was really dramatic and made me want to punch Terra's face to return to normal.

And even though I always treated secret bosses as canon they never reflect in the story. Or maybe Sora's just really that forgetful. Hahaha.

Organization Norteen would be like the perfect pre-release fan name since BHK. XD;;
spoiler: Re:Coded, BBS, Days
No, I think you’re right… Namine was the only one who wanted to make sure someone knew that TAV needed to be saved. I think. But DiZ was the one who came up with the technology to do it? Or… I dunno. I can’t actually think of the timeline for this. I think DiZ also mentions somewhere that the journal was one of his ways of making amends? So when did he decide he no longer wanted revenge on the Organization/Nobodies? It certainly wasn’t while Sora (and by extension, Jiminy) was asleep because he was still being a dick to Namine & Roxas at that point. o_O Did he let Namine put it in as a failsafe in case it turned out he was wrong about his treatment of Nobodies?

Ugh, as much as it pains me to say it, I think I need to replay Re:Coded. XD;

Well, the Xemnas secret fight in KH1:FM is entirely canon. I’m pretty sure Xemnas specifically mentions it in KH2—when he’s talking to Roxas on the beach in the Darkness (actually, this scene still makes no sense to me… why the heck were they there?), he says “I’ve been to see him. He looks a lot like you.” He was talking about Sora and testing him in Hollow Bastion. I think. o_O;
spoiler: Days, BBS
True. Since Xemnas was Terra's body and all. And I'll ignore how that may sound weird. Anyway, Xemnas's corruption actually supports my idea that Terranort was just Terra in his darkest, and called his past self using third person. But it's obviously not the case canon-wise. Anyway, your points are quite spot-on. Except I think he just feels Ven as a sort of unexplained feeling that draws him inside C.O. which he doesn't completely get. The fact that he's sending in Axel repeatedly would aim to relieve this otherwise bizarre drive of his. Oh, I don't actually remember Days referring to Xemnas as seeing Xion with Sora's face but I think it would make sense. And he's probably locked Terra's memories deep inside his heart or rid them completely, just his overall Terra-ness stands. Maybe? I don't know, if that makes any sense. As to where the memories could have drifted to, they're probably in the Lingering Sentiment or even in Ansem, Seeker of Darkness (ironically, calling him Xehanort would just be confusing, so I'll use his old moniker, haha).
spoiler: Days, BBS
I didn’t remember it in Days either but one of Xemnas’s secret journal entries pretty much says it right out. “I see it as Sora most days, now.” Or something right along those lines. He specifically says Sora so no getting around that one. :s It baffles me because I still don’t get how Xigbar could see Ven (especially as Xion was getting close to completion and more people were seeing her as Sora) and Xemnas sees Sora when it’s obvious that Xemnas has more of a tie to Aqua and Ven than anyone else. @_@

I don’t think Lingering Sentiment has anything but… well… the lingering sentiment to get his revenge on MX. XD; He recognizes that Sora has a Keyblade and, from what I can tell, attacks him because he knows Sora isn’t Aqua or Ven or Riku and the only other person in existence who should have a Keyblade is MX. Oh Terra, even your armour’s logic is dumb.
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded

I agree. Even I wouldn't have guessed it if I hadn't seen BBS's ending. Or maybe I would have because he acted just like Sora. But in the universe, they're pretty much not easy to associate if you're not that close to either or got to observe the similarities. After all, it would be hard to do that with a ten-year gap of vaguely remembering how Ven was.

Actually that presents an interesting point. Then again, Naminé wouldn't do that without being out of character, so never mind that point. Ven is forgettable for them despite the probably mutual D-Link and all. Which doesn't make sense.
spoiler: BBS, Re:Coded
I think the fandom would have been able to piece it together eventually since there’s a lot of evidence from our point of view, but we’ve seen everything that happened with Roxas/Xion, everything that happened in BBS, and everything that’s happened with Sora. There’s a lot of evidence to draw on but no one in the series has seen everything that was available to us so it makes no sense to me that they’d know it.

Yeah, Namine wouldn’t mess up with something like that. But it’s seriously the only explanation I can come up with. XD;
spoiler: Days
That part of mission order being optional kind of ruins the canon-feel, although the world visiting from the past games has almost always allowed variation. And since the missions aren't that plot-changing themselves, there really isn't much difference. Besides if there was a problem with the short time span causing inconsistencies, they could just attach the intermediary, possibly important events to the ends of the missions (or better yet, inside them) themselves, or at least make the order more solid if it actually still messes things up. But I definitely agree that the lengthy, almost month-long skips should have perfectly depicted important events in-between. In addition, having other non-affiliated/personal missions would have been perfect to include good characterization, and development both to people and to the plot. All this while still keeping the mission format of the game itself in check. It's really an interesting concept that I didn't think about. But yeah the game definitely needed more throwbacks aside from Ven!Xion. I did hear Nomura wanted to see Days and its story in a proper platform if I'm remembering things right. So there is hope. ;D
I thought the mission order thing was okay. It made a fair bit of sense, anyway. I just didn’t like how there were so many blank days. I know there are one or two that don’t really have any action—they’re just cutscenes anyway—so would it have been that hard to add in additional story without having to do missions first? D:

I think I liked the format Days was in and I really think that, in order to put it on any other console (especially a non-handheld one) they’d have to entirely change the game mechanic or the game will just be horribly received. I guess I could see doing it as a port to 3DS when/if they do a 3DS:FM or if they did it as an addition to a console FM like COM was… but I can’t really think of where they’d do that. It’ll be way too late by the time KH3 comes out and there’s nothing that can come out in the interim. I mean, I’m still sort of expecting an HD compilation on PS3 kind of like Metal Gear Solid and God of War got, so maybe they could do a Re:358/2 Days game… but I feel like it wouldn’t really fit in there and it wouldn’t be needed as an addition because the games themselves in HD would be enough of a selling point. u_u
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D

I think some of the secret reports/journal entries were pretty rushed. That is, they were done without checking if this character would not act that way in other games. So yeah, even though Marluxia's stupid line was basically made canon, it probably wasn't intended. Or maybe the guy who wrote the entries forgot that one scene (or even outright haven't played CoM, only knowing major plot points), and blamed Saix for Axel's actions instead (since that's what Zexion thinks according to his report) even though it was Marluxia who ordered him. In other words, I really don't think Marluxia is that much of an idiot. Plus I'd love to hear your theory.

It's actually a sound idea for her hood to not be a conventional hood. I'm leaning towards her hood being an illusion wherein if you try to touch it, your hands will slip through. But inside that hood, it's not easy to think that Sora's in it because it would be awkward for a body wearing feminine features, even donning heels, to have Sora's face. I'm voting for featureless doll or black-haired Kairi or even infinite hoods, just not cross-dressing Sora. XD;
spoiler: Days, BBS
They’re usually pretty careful with the (Japanese, at least) journals (since the English ones got the translations of the original Apprentices’ anagrammed names wrong). I’d argue that all of them are pretty accurate, anyway. They include them as extra plot for a reason and I don’t think they’d overlook important ones. So I mean, I guess Marluxia’s one measly entry might’ve been skipped over when they were proofreading for plot but it doesn’t seem too likely. I’ll write out my theory anyway because if you ignore this one entry, it does seem valid. I think. (Part of the reason I want to share it is to see if I’m just thinking highly of him because I’m such a fangirl of him or if he legitimately could’ve had interesting motives, haha.) Next post I’ll try to get it written up. :D I’m mostly whining about Marluxia because he’s smart enough to realize that Axel got his orders from higher up (though he probably isn’t sure whether it was from Xemnas himself or Saix) but then… doesn’t seem to clue into the fact that Axel eliminated Vexen because Marluxia told him to? I mean, I get that he’d probably be surprised that Axel actually followed the order because it means Axel was told to get pretty far into Marluxia’s good books OR Axel had orders from someone else to kill Vexen but… is that really so unbelievable? Actually, now that I’ve written all this out, I’ve kind of convinced myself that Marluxia doesn’t care about what Axel did at all, he just wants to know where the “root out traitors” orders came from and why Axel’s following them so well. Hmm. That works just fine with my theory, I think. *u*

I’ve apparently been talking about Xion a lot since I’ve put a lot of thought into her appearance lately. I think I’ve come to the conclusion that she was built as a Sora clone so in her default state, she mostly looks like him—although with maybe a lighter build because she hasn’t built up any of the muscle that he has since at the beginning she’s pretty much a test tube baby rather than a seasoned fighter! As people don’t realize what she is supposed to be, the hood keeps her looking non-descript and myserious, so it’s left on. As more of Sora’s memories are poured into her, to people who have a connection to Sora, she starts to take on the appearance of Sora’s memories. A lot of Sora’s fondest memories are of Kairi and it might make sense for Xion to “absorb” those memories first since those are the ones that Namine was tampering with while Sora climbed Castle Oblivion. As the first to be thrown away, they’d be the first that Xion picks up. So Roxas, as Sora’s Nobody, would see Xion mostly as Kairi. Axel… doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Really, he should see Xion as Sora but I don’t think anyone saw her as anything at this point so I guess we could still follow the idea that anyone who gets to know her would just see the main reflection (Kairi) at this point. We know Axel sees her as a Kairi look-alike because in one of his journal entries, he specifically mentions that he can’t decide if she’s supposed to look like Kairi or Namine. Later, as Xion absorbs more of Sora’s memories, I think that’s when other people who have a connection to Sora (or Ven) start seeing her as something else. As Xion absorbs a lot of Sora’s memories, she starts getting confused herself and I think Riku even sees her as Sora sometimes. It’s confirmed that Xemnas sees her as Sora and even Roxas sees her as Sora in the final cutscene with her. The only anomaly that messes this up is Xigbar. I can’t think of a reason why he’d actually see her as Ven. If he knew she was a Sora clone (and he does find this out fairly quickly even though it was supposedly kept from him), he should have seen Sora. Why would he see Ven? Unless it’s a subconscious thing and he’d be more likely to see the person he had meaningful interactions with in the past but then… it doesn’t explain at all why Xemnas sees Sora and not Xion. I’ll go back and re-read the journals. Maybe Xemnas only mentions seeing Sora when Xion’s pretty close to completion? I know he specifically says that only sometimes he sees her as Sora. Maybe he just neglected to say that the other times, when she isn’t Sora, she’s Ven. :P Also, Saix only ever sees her as a nondescript puppet which is kind of interesting because I thiiink he knew she was a copy of Sora as well?

Another thing this doesn’t explain is why the clothing itself changes. XD She definitely has female boots when she’s Kairi!Xion but her shoes change to Roxas!boots when she’s Sora!Xion. (As I mentioned in a recent VM to Sakura… I’ve spent a lot of time looking at KH characters’ footwear. Did you guys know that Zexion used to have hilariously big shoes like Roxas and Sora until KH2:FM when he got normal Organization boots? :D)
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
Well at first the reasons I convinced myself to believe were that anyone who gets connected with Sora (to an extent, Roxas) like Xion and Axel get to experience real emotion even without hearts (even believing that maybe that's the magic Sora did to Ven at the start of BBS, but yeah apparently 3D says it's not connected to Sora or his alleged magic). Or at least Axel and Xion secretly hid theirs, because Roxas has no problem since it's very likely that Ven's heart got itself inside him to help him feel like you said. And I also have to add that anger as an emotion definitely proved they had hearts, with Xion's first encounter with Riku, Axel's separate confrontations with Roxas and with Xion, etc. That adding up to sadness and fear which you gave good examples to. :D

But I honestly like 3D's explanation now. It's just sad that they were made to believe following the Organization would be the only way to get them back. But yeah memories do have important connections with one's hearts, I mean, the whole Organization XIII acted their fake emotions even without hearts by their past selves' memories. So it's much bigger of a link than anyone would guess. Even from there, you'd think they'd already have a blueprint of a heart because where would these memories have been located? CoM indicates that the links of memories settle deep inside the heart so that implies that normal memory chains are located in it. And I guess it's just a growing experience: new memories made as a Nobody would have to rebuild this blueprint into an actual shell to place the memories in.

Your concept of heart being just shared memories is actually convincing, and I remember Sora's heart fragments showing memories (mostly of him and Riku which I found really awkward) when Riku was diving into Sora's Dive to the Heart (haha) before 3D's final boss. But even without 3D, Ven's Dive to the Heart certainly explains a lot. His station was basically blank even with Sora's help because his memories were damaged and possibly rested deep inside it. And when he was allowed to stay at The Land of Departure, got to meet Aqua and Terra, and experienced memories once more, his Dive to the Heart shifted to depict the color-coded Wayfinders representing the trio's connections. One more proof would be Kid!Sora's which comparably had less faces from his current one and instead, simply depicted activities during childhood (I vaguely remember a Paopu Fruit and the infamous raft there, for example), basically just Destiny Islands. That and his friendship with Riku interested him then so that composed his memories (reflecting in the station itself). So yeah.

When I watched that scene again with subs, it was actually Xemnas who continued with the talk and did most of explaining the growing hearts, even talking about him lying towards the Organization XIII that they didn't have hearts. Gah, Xemnas is evil. And of course, this triggered Sora's speech (And the best part of it would be "Tsunagaru kokoro ga ore no chikara da!" which was just filled with Sora's emotion. Interesting that from the first KH until BBS was always translated as "My friends are my power!" instead of the literal translation, i.e. "Connected hearts are my power!" ...then again, the usual translation sounds less silly.).
spoiler: Days, BBS, 3D
Yeah, the Dive to Heart sequences are another really good example of hearts=memories. (Little!Sora’s are adorable. One of the highlighted things is a mushroom. It’s just so hilarious. XD) I’d forgotten about Ven’s being pretty blank at the beginning so I think we’re exactly right with this. By the end of BBS, though, it gains more substance with references to his friendship with Aqua and Terra. Amnesia must also be a symptom of not having a heart… although that makes Roxas a bit of an interesting case because he has no memories but he has a heart? I guess that’s where Ven’s already existing heart would come into play. Might also explain a lot of Terranort’s actions in Radiant Garden… if he actually was amnestic. (Kingdom Hearts: the only reason I know the adjectival version of ‘amnesia’.) He always seemed really aloof and detached in his few cutscenes. Maybe it’s because his heart was out of reach because both Terra and MX were guarding theirs so closely from each other? Of course, this doesn’t match up at all if Terranort turns out to not have had amnesia but jury’s still kind of up on that one.

This might also explain some of Namine’s actions, too. We don’t see her at all until she’s already taken apart some of Sora’s heart. She says in the game that she was lonely and that’s why she lured Sora to C.O. and inserted herself in his memories and on the surface that makes sense—especially when you remember that Marluxia was pretty much the one making her do it and that would be pretty threatening. But if you assume that she was a Nobody with no memories from the start, like Roxas, that’s an even better explanation. She may have vaguely known that it was wrong to do that but look at Roxas’s moral compass. It sucks because he has no life experience. So it’s possible that Namine went along with the Sora plot with no resistance at first because she was told to and had no reason not to. But once she actually got to play with real memories and make her own with them, she probably gained a heart pretty quickly and that’s why she looks so calm and collected at the beginning of the game when we see her—she’s even smiling at some point while she’s drawing Sora—and then later in the game she looks absolutely miserable as she unlinks more of his memories. (Did this paragraph make sense? I know exactly what I was trying to say but I don’t know if I got it across. Whoo, high on painkillers and I have no judgment. XD)

And I thought it was Xemnas who gave the “lol they had hearts after all” speech. :x I think it had a lot more power coming from him since he was the mastermind behind all of it in the first place. And aww, Sora. With this memories stuff, the “connected hearts” version makes a lot more sense… but it also doesn’t flow well at ALL in English. :P
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
I would love for Kairi to be a Light but it would be somewhat problematic for her because she's also supposed to protect herself, being one of the Princesses of Heart. It would be awesome if she were destined to be one of the Lights nevertheless. As for Roxas, I think he popped out in the 3D opening just to provide closure for each of the three spinoffs (Roxas for Days, TAV for BBS, Mickey and maybe even Sora and Riku for Coded) and after thinking about it, I'm convinced that he's not going to be a Light. But you're right about Lea, except I think we'll still have him filling one of the spots at least before the actual seven are gathered and revealed. After all, they were talking about currently missing two spots (hopefully Kairi fills the other and turns out to be a predestined Light) because, Terra was still apparently one of the Darknesses according to MX's 3D speech. But then if Terra's a predestined Light himself, who would take his place as the predestined Darkness? Along with Sora's empty spot as the 13th Darkness? =\

That reminds me, I wonder how NA will translate the Seven Lights and the Thirteen Darknesses? Haha, Organization Norteen? They're bound to be the central terms for the heroes and villains in KHIII so they might think of a catchier name similar to Organization XIII. Although Juusan Kikan does translate to a worded Organization Thirteen so they probably won't change a thing. I still think the word Darknesses is a mouthful, and not having as much of a ring to it as Org. XIII.

Nah I still think Ven's no longer mortally connected to Vanitas and vice versa. But still, they wouldn't do that to Ven, or else Kingdom Hearts can't be achieved by MX (given the obvious assumption that Ven is a Light). But yeah Vanitas is certainly a Darkness if he's coming back. It would be awesome if he and Sora met. 8D Miyu Irino and Haley Joel Osment will be talking to themselves, haha.

Yeah it would creep Larxene out and drive her crazy, hahaha. If she or her complete self reappears I'll be so happy. :D
spoiler: 3D, BBS
Well, we don’t necessarily know for sure that being a Princess of Heart necessarily excludes you from being one of the Lights. If anything, you’d think it would help your case. But I guess it's kind of overkill for her to be both. I think it’d be more fun if she was a Light but I’m not sure if it makes enough sense. If we take her out though, and if we don’t include Nobodies who were ~never meant to exist~ and thus wouldn’t be included in a prophecy/destined thing (and probably wouldn’t be part of the games if they hadn’t come into the plot as Nobodies)… then it means we’re getting some new characters which just seems unnecessary at this point. :s Haha maybe Donald and Goofy should be lights. ;P

I don’t think Sora was supposed to be a Darkness. I just can’t see it being fated for him. So maybe the Lights and Darknesses aren’t as predestined as people think right now? Then again, it’s not like Xehanort has ever really followed the “rules” for his inane schemes to take over the world obtain Kingdom Hearts. He always seems to take the lazy way out and it never works out. Even here, when he’s supposed to be gathering predestined Darks, he’s trying to use Sora?? There’s no way Sora was predestined for that. No way. Only way it makes sense is if he only took Sora in order to prevent the Lights from getting all of theirs. Which is fine but… wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to just cause a bit of trouble here and there for Riku and Sora while keeping Organization Norteen under wraps and, in a more serious sense, trying to find the other Lights and eliminating them before Sora/Riku even know that’s what they’re supposed to do??? Why is Xehanort so bad at this. If I were him, I’d have gotten KH long ago. >:O

I want Vanitas to come back just to hear Sora talking to himself. omg. I actually have an MP3 of Miyu Irino singing the opening songs of a bunch of the franchises he does work for. It’s hilarious to sit there and imagine it’s Sora or Vanitas singing. Especially at one point where I think Miyu does his own harmonies for one song or does part of it rapping and part of it singing? It’s been a while but it’s hilarious and I imagine they’re singing together. I should find it and upload it somewhere. XD

Also, I think it’s probably guaranteed that the Organization will all be reappearing before the end of the series (or before the end of this arc, even). There’s a page for them in the 3D Ultimania with a table that lists them in order, shows their picture, and then shows their real names or “unknown” if they haven’t appeared as Somebodies in the series. I feel like if they didn’t want to keep reminding us that the others were part of the games, they’d just list the important ones. Might be wishful thinking on my part but I really think the others will come back in some capacity. Even if it’s just for a short cameo like Lea and Isa had in BBS, it’ll be something. :D
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot
Your point makes so much sense that it's annoying how they show it as a huge problem for Sora. I mean, everyone got a Keyblade, even Kairi who accidentally had hers so couldn't have Sora accidentally inherited the Lingering Sentiment's for example? The moment Sakura mentioned would have been a good time, too! But yeah if he hasn't had a ceremony, it would be so simple to give him one on the spot. Gah, and Sora almost fell into the darkness for this stupidity.

If they say Sora was predestined to be one of the Thirteen Darknesses and can only inherit it from a fellow Darkness as a reason, I would flip out.

For some reason this reminds me of a little theory of mine, you guys know that Ven can have a hacked in Light Seeker in BBS, right? That is exclusively in the Japanese release, I think. Maybe this is a hint that Ven's Keyblade's true form was the Light Seeker/Kingdom Key D and it somehow stayed into the Realm of Darkness. You know, because it tried to help Aqua from the Darksides along with Terra's Keyblade (in the original BBS's final ending). So maybe that's how Mickey got a hold of the Kingdom Key D when he ventured the Realm (see original KH). Yeah, it probably isn't the case, not by a long shot. Still an interesting idea, in my opinion. I just want BBSv2 with Mickey's backstory.
spoiler: 3D, BBS
There has to be a reason for the big deal. I reaaaally hope it’s not the Darkness thing since I went on about how it couldn’t be possible just above but… this is the only theory I’ve seen that makes any sense on both fronts. D: I mean, I guess it would actually be pretty interesting and if there’s anyone in the series who seems to be all about shattering destiny and running off to do his own thing, it’s Sora. Maybe that’s the direction they’ll take, with him switching from his destined path as a Darkness and switching to Light? XD; I could live with that.

That’s the Keyblade that showed up in the end of BBS? I have to admit, I’ve never paid much attention to that part because it’s just so cheesy. But that is interesting. Aqua’s final Keyblade is arguable since she not only gets the upgraded version of her initial Keyblade like the others got but she also gets Brightcrest. So it wouldn’t be a stretch to believe that Ven’s final Keyblade is a different one too. Though how it would get into the Realm of Darkness is a little confusing. Terra’s could be there from when he and Aqua fell into it. Maybe Ven originally used that Keyblade but lost it once he lost his memories? I dunno. I don’t really remember paying much attention to any of their individual Keyblades much. I never really thought it would be important. xD;
spoiler: 3D, rest of the series' plot

I did notice it from the playthroughs but I guess Traverse Town was sort of a tutorial. And yeah, I agree with all that you said. I just want some Kairi inner monologue or something so she gets more of her character into the table. I know I liked Aqua so much more because of what she thought about things and how she reacted, ignoring the fact that she could have used a better VA. But I think I can trust Hayden Panettiere to give her good lines, I really hope they don't get rid of her.

XD

Yeah, until they started growing their own. That's when the coats get their use. It's possible that because Xemnas knew the heart-growing from the start, so he immediately proposed the coat idea (even though the others really wouldn't get it because as you said they don't have hearts that would get corrupted anyway). I guess everyone thought it looked cool anyway (I myself am getting sick of the repeated use of this coat) so they obeyed Xemnas's fashion code.

I want Lea to have new clothes but still use both the chakrams and his new Keyblade. And it would make sense for him to hide the Keyblade use. Maybe he would suddenly be forced to switch places with Terra in a plot twist from Light to Darkness when the bad guys find out he can use the Keyblade while still being more or less linked to Darkness, maybe even using Lea being corrupted by continuous use of the Corridors as a reason for his forced switch of sides, who knows?

Frolic Flame. ;D Rascal Flame was its Japanese name. But yes his new fire-themed Keyblade looks way better (although it does remind me of chicken feathers).

I guess that's why you felt it was rushed. At least Nomura was honest about it.
spoiler: everything but coded
They ditched Hayden way back with Days for… Alyson Stone or something? I dunno. Xion was supposed to have the same VA and she didn’t, though I don’t think Kairi’s had any lines since then. (Her child VA was different in both Japanese and English so that doesn’t count.) But Hayden was also highly in demand and probably pricy because of her work in Heroes. Maybe now that it’s been cancelled and she isn’t up to much, they can get her back? I hope so, since I thought Xion’s voice wasn’t very good in comparison. :(

I don’t think Xemnas would be worried about hearts potentially getting corrupted. I think he didn’t realize that hearts could be “grown” which is maybe why he sent members over to C.O. to (on paper, anyway) research the heart. Maybe he saw that some of them were getting more emotional than need be and recognized that something was up with their hearts or lack thereof? In 3D he definitely says that Organization XIII failed to become proper shells for Xehanort because they died too early on but I’m pretty sure he also implied that they weren’t suitable because some of them had hearts, too. So if anything, he’d probably want them to not wear the jackets if there was a chance they’d get hearts because it would sort of help trim down the ones who did grow hearts by either killing them off so he’d know to replace them or else it would destroy their hearts or something? I don’t know. Now that hearts seem to be based more on memories, I’m not sure how the Darkness could eat away at them. (Unless too much exposure to it affects memories? Don't want to think about that, though, because Aqua. [Although she seems perfectly fine and coherent at the end of KH2 which is the only time DiZ would be there.])

I’d love Lea to end up on the side of Darkness as a spy or something. That would be awesome, though I think at this point Xehanort would know to kill him instead of invite him to the inner circle. (Than again, this is the man who decided Sora would make a good Darkness. I don’t want to see Lea legitimately corrupted though. :’(

(I am also not surprised at all that I only knew the Japanese name. XD I’m surprised I knew even that because I’m usually so bad at remembering the names of Keyblades. Also, I was drawing Lea’s Keyblade the other day and it’s actually pretty cool looking! It’s more angular than his chakrams despite having the same design and the fiery blade of it is actually transparent which is a neat effect. I hope we get to see a better image of it soon because all I had as a reference was the one cutscene it’s in and we never actually see a full image of it—for example, I have no idea what the keychain of it is so I’ve had to improvise my own design. :x)
If they do release a 3D FM I think they will add at least a secret boss or two along with maybe another scenario like BBS aside from additional cutscenes. But it would only be minimal and just wouldn't be that important.

It's true that 3D outweighs the other spinoffs in importance. I'm thinking they'll just transfer the Mementos feature with KH3D added for KHIII. Or at least use the KHIII opening as a stylistic recap.
I wouldn’t mind a secret boss in 3D that’s actually comparable to the other secret bosses. I like the plot-based ones a lot more. Or at least, the ones that link to something else in the series. The only real secret boss in 3D is J…Julius? I’ve forgotten. The Pete-looking thing in Traverse Town if you go back in the endgame. It’s a tough enough fight, I guess… I mean, I haven’t beaten it with either character yet… but it’s a really boring fight. All he does are strong physical attacks and it’s not an exhilarating fight or anything like pretty much all the other secret bosses. D: So it doesn’t feel like one. I don’t think I’ll feel any real level of accomplishment when I beat it. So I’d be okay with an FM for 3D if only for added bosses. That’s what ended up selling me on BBS:FM. (I was adamant about not getting that but it was eventually the added fights in Mirage Arena that made me buy it. XD)

They always sort of do recap openings now, or at least they did for 3D. So those will always be a thing with the main games, I think. Mementos will definitely return, though. I hope they just have them in the menu from the start, though. It was nice how they had them pop up only once the games became relevant in 3D—but by the time Re:Coded was up for its cameo, it felt sooo forced. Seriously, that’s the only reason I could really think of for needing to put Pete and Maleficent in 3D like they did… so that they could drop them in the same room they invaded in Re:Coded and had some excuse to show the Re:Coded summary. D:
no spoilers.
I love that comic! Roxas looks so adorable getting it wrong like that. :3 I really wish they kept that in the English version and maybe changed the cutscene a little to immediately show Axel smirk from the failed imitation. But I guess not.

YMX did sound bad. But I don't really mind. I always think that for the English cutscenes, the background music takes care of the mood to make it less awful, in case the VA falls flat once in a while. Trailers get rid of that, so what you get is badly edited cutscenes that show the negative parts of the voice acting. Although I do miss emotional Sora and co. who always got their lines spot-on (really evident in the first one). Are they getting payed less since it's not on a console? ;O;

I don't think they just dubbed over the original Japanese one. The lip flap is noticeably different, what they didn't replace was the gameplay portions, they just muted the in-game sounds to not be that noticeable. I'm blaming bad video editing for the awfully matched mouth movement. But yeah I'm hopeful for the actual game to not be this subpar. Also I have to add that Days and Coded also didn't have matched lip flap for obvious reasons.
Glad you like it. XD; It’s probably one of the wittier drawings I’ve done, haha. EXCEPT NOW IT’S NOT WITTY BECAUSE THAT TRANSLATION WILL BE LOST FOREVER. /baw

They might be getting paid less but… I dunno. I imagine they’d probably negotiate a deal that worked for them because Disney/S-E is obviously going to want to keep the main voice actors for their series. It’s one thing to replace lesser characters but replacing Sora? Osment could probably ask for nearly any price even for a handheld and get away with it. :x

I always thought the only game that didn’t have matched lip flap was Chain. :s But I guess I also don’t play the English versions of games much anymore so maybe I’m just not used to it. But I definitely don’t remember seeing as many complaints about all the other games compared to Chain so maybe they only edited lip flap for more close-up scenes, maybe? If I cared enough, I’d go compare the JP with the EN trailers really closely since I don’t think they did change lip flap but… yeah, don’t care enough. I won’t even be playing the English version, I don’t think, so I’ll live without knowing. XD
spoiler: Crisis Core
You reminded me of how awful that scene was. Now I just watched it on YouTube and man. The modulating phase scenes! The way everyone fades into a white silhouette. Only Aerith lasts and then...everything glitches and fails, Zack screams of pain, and Aerith doesn't make it, fades into white too then...it all ends. The feeling of helplessness was just downright depressing. D': And it's even more sad because I knew he was gonna die but I really didn't want him to! And now...I'm reminded of the tears I shed for that game. ;O;
But that appointment, really funny how you described it. XD;
Okay I'm good now. :3

Best FF protagonist indeed. He was awesome in Complete.

spoiler: why was this in a spoiler again? XD;;
It was, absolutely. And the fact that the voice actress didn't know the character at all just makes it worse.

I can't get over how they're actually married!
spoiler: Crisis Core: FFVII
I’m sorry! But in my defence, I didn’t say anything about going to watch the ending itself so you brought that depression upon yourself! XD (Although if I wasn’t so dead tired now [how is it almost 3:30am omgggg] I’d probably go watch it lol. /masochist)

I didn’t believe they were married either and had to look it up on another site when I read it. It’s so perfect. XD;

omg my posts are getting less and less coherent compared to the quotes. Go to bed, me!
spoiler: Final Fantasy XIII-2
I know I've already made my points to this posts ago but I'd like to know if you've already seen the ending yourself. And also your opinion on it.
I'm okay with spoilers but oddly enough I don't plan to actually watch the video on YouTube yet. Not until I at least try out FFXIII-2 (and trust you on guiding me for when I would stop, at the right moment, with no loose ends and just a fulfilling ending, although I'll probably have to see the end of it anyway).
spoiler: FFXIII-2
I actually still haven’t seen any of the DLC cutscenes for FFXIII-2, even the older DLC that’s been out for a while. I’m still just gonna Youtube it but my desire to do even that kind of died out when I heard that even those don’t finish the game properly. I sort of feel like… what’s the point of them, even, if they weren’t going to finish the game? They don’t seem important anymore so I may not bother with them at all. >_>
Aye, I actually never finished any Dragon Quest games, haha. Don't see people discussing them at all (quality of DQ is unrelated because the series is good, just not much KH/FF fans are drawn in). And yeah the conflicting topics sometimes overshadow each other so that's a problem (it's really hard to pick out the posts you want to reply to because it's like finding an FF or TWEWY post in a sea of KH ones and sometimes vice-versa).

I'm okay with splitting but it would be hard to get activity churning for each thread judging history. =\
You can expect me to post in both though! ;D
But I'm also alright with keeping the SE fan club as it is if the majority thinks it's best this way.
I feel like maybe I should ask this again but not in a huge post again. XD I think I’d prefer a split club too since I feel kind of annoying having these massive KH posts every so often and most of the in-betweens aren’t really too related to the KH discussions so it’s actually pretty hard to find all the KH posts when I’m writing these and want to refer to earlier discussions. D:

We seem to be doing okay activity-wise on both the KH and FF ends of this thread… if that interest continues, I think both threads would do just fine but… if this burst of activity in the last month is just temporary, one or both might die if we split. ;_;
uh... Wall of text makes my eyes bleed.

I just found out SE published Full Metal Alchemist! Are we allowed to talk about stuff they do outside of gaming or just gaming related stuff??
(Fullmetal alch was incredible (especially brotherhood))
Well, Square-Enix as a publisher does a lot of things but I’d say this club is more about what they develop rather than publish. They also publish the Batman games along with the Modern Warfare/Call of Duty series in Japan but we don’t talk about those. :P FMA’ll have to go in its own thread.
While Youtube surfing today, I came across this little gem. Figured you guys might enjoy it and wanna try it yourself sometime too.

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I’d love to try sea salt ice cream. Definitely faving that video to watch again so I can try making it with friends one day. :D

I also saw someone made the thunder ice cream from BBS on Tumblr. I think there was a recipe included. I liked the post but hopefully it hasn’t been buried by my other likes yet… *goes to search*

…found it! (http://a-chels.tumblr.com/post/22528042478/gourmetgaming-kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep)

Man, I wish I actually liked ice cream more than I do. XD;

omg quarter to four by the time i finished this. /BED

PokeGirlBel
May 26th, 2012, 03:50 AM
I had this odd dream about a Square Enix Pokemon game for Wii U. Not sure why but I did. It was pretty interesting though. Sadly with them not being with Nintendo these days I doubt it would happen. I'm curiosu to see what they show at E3. *Cough*Versus Release Date*Cough*

Cherrim
May 26th, 2012, 09:46 AM
I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that XIII Versus will not have any sort of appearance at E3 which I assume means no release date too. :P

Kurui
May 26th, 2012, 11:05 AM
Hate Fail Fantasy, hate KH (except Vexy), but love Star Ocean (published) and Dewprism (developed). Sign me up.

Yoshimi
May 26th, 2012, 11:17 AM
I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that XIII Versus will not have any sort of appearance at E3 which I assume means no release date too. :P

http://andriasang.com/comzoe/nomura_famitsu_interview/

Nomura said he'd like to release some Versus related information this year, and he also said the next time it'd be shown would be on actual hardware. If it's gonna be shown then it'll probably be at TGS. I wouldn't be surprised if Versus XIII wasn't announced at E3(because they have a pretty full lineup already), but they could pull some sort of surprise announcement.

...Naaaaah. That's under the assumption that Square Enix knows what their fans want.

Cherrim
May 26th, 2012, 01:29 PM
Hate Fail Fantasy, hate KH (except Vexy), but love Star Ocean (published) and Dewprism (developed). Sign me up.
Well, I'm not totally sure where this club stands on franchises that S-E only publishes (since, as I pointed out to someone else, they also technically publish the Batman games and the Call of Duty franchise in Japan XD) but the last one is quite valid. :P I would ask that you keep your hate of any of their franchises to a minimum, though, since this is a fanclub, haha. (And sorry in advance if we bore you but we talk about both FF and KH a lot. XD) Welcome!

Well, regardless of whether it's allowed or not... I actually just started Star Ocean 3 for the first time yesterday. I've never played an SO game before (although I have the first one on PSP somwhere) and aside from the fact that I don't understand the battle system at all yet, I'm enjoying it~


http://andriasang.com/comzoe/nomura_famitsu_interview/

Nomura said he'd like to release some Versus related information this year, and he also said the next time it'd be shown would be on actual hardware. If it's gonna be shown then it'll probably be at TGS. I wouldn't be surprised if Versus XIII wasn't announced at E3(because they have a pretty full lineup already), but they could pull some sort of surprise announcement.

...Naaaaah. That's under the assumption that Square Enix knows what their fans want.
I think if Versus is going to show up at E3, it will only be because they have a big announcement about it for the Sony conference. They only announce "new" things at E3 if they're making fabulous announcements for either Sony or Microsoft but even then they aren't usually all that impressive. For example, S-E was a main part of the Microsoft conference that one year when they surprised everyone by saying XIII would be out on the 360. Then either the next day or the next year (it all blurs together XD) they were on Sony's stage announcing XIV for PC and PS3. The former was just announcing a port (and lack of console exclusivity for the series) and the latter wasn't very impressive since XIV still hasn't come out on consoles here, iirc. :P

So there's a chance that Versus could be tucked away so they can whip it out during one of the big conferences but even if that happens, I don't think it's any guarantee we'll be seeing it soon, haha.

CarefulWetPaint
May 29th, 2012, 07:49 PM
I am excited to see what they have installed for us at E3! It should be great. Do you think they'll have anymore on KH3D at E3?

Also I must say I love the music they have in KH especially the opening song in KH1 that song is fantastic. Who else loves the music square puts into their games? I think it really really fits the game and adds so much emotion to the game. <3

Oh and I'll leave this here for you all:

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Oh and Kurui you should definitely not publicly say you hate the main discussion points of a fan club when joining a fanclub..

Kurui
May 29th, 2012, 07:55 PM
I wished Enix would have stayed away from Squaresoft, but oh well XD SO3 is alright, the previous 3 installments were the golden ones: Star Ocean and Star Ocean: The Second Story, as well as TSS spinoff game, Blue Sphere, were the real gems. It started falling apart after that. The last installment is pretty unbearable to play in comparison to the first few. But better than a lot of other games, and would seem nice to anyone who hasn't played any of the previous games.

SO:TSS was my first SO game and is still to date my current favourite game ever. No other game goes quite so in depth with story and gameplay mechanics in an RPG. They did not keep to a lot of the trends when moving to SO: TTEOT. I don't know why that is. :s

Yoshimi
May 29th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Star Ocean 2 was the only Star Ocean I bothered to finish, but it was amazing. I loved it so much that I even got to the bottom of the Cave of Trials and maxed out of all possible skills. I got absolutely annihilated against the Iseria Queen, but I only liked the game more because it still bothered to have hard bosses even after getting the Infinity Sword +1.

Also, Blue Sphere just got its main script translated according to Aeon Genesis. It still has a long way to go, but at least some progress is being made on it.

Riku
May 31st, 2012, 02:11 PM
I've never played Star Ocean. Been told by maaaaany people I should, but I've just... not done it. Are they really that great? I'm judging by Luck's response about SO2 that that's a yes, but... >.>

In KH news to boost the spirits around here (and because I love talking about it), there's been a rumor leaked from a fairly credible source who supposedly leaked the two Castlevania games ahead of time saying there's to be an HD Collection of KH, KH2, CoM, Days, and BBS released for the Wii U, PS3, and PS Vita. The rumor can be found here (http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comments/kingdom-hearts-hd-collection-bound-for-wii-u). It IS just a rumor, but me likey the idea of having all of them on a single console. With full HD crispness. Especially if it's going to be Final Mix versions of the games :x

Also, there's been official confirmation of returning voice actors for KH3D thanks to SE Europe, including one that many people had been led to believe would not be returning: Leonard Nimoy as Master Xehanort. Here (http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/voice-talent-kingdom-hearts-3d) is the link for that confirmation too :3 I for one am extremely happy Nimoy is actually back for MX. Anyone else have any thoughts?

CarefulWetPaint
May 31st, 2012, 02:34 PM
I've never played Star Ocean. Been told by maaaaany people I should, but I've just... not done it. Are they really that great? I'm judging by Luck's response about SO2 that that's a yes, but... >.>

In KH news to boost the spirits around here (and because I love talking about it), there's been a rumor leaked from a fairly credible source who supposedly leaked the two Castlevania games ahead of time saying there's to be an HD Collection of KH, KH2, CoM, Days, and BBS released for the Wii U, PS3, and PS Vita. The rumor can be found here (http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comments/kingdom-hearts-hd-collection-bound-for-wii-u). It IS just a rumor, but me likey the idea of having all of them on a single console. With full HD crispness. Especially if it's going to be Final Mix versions of the games :x

Also, there's been official confirmation of returning voice actors for KH3D thanks to SE Europe, including one that many people had been led to believe would not be returning: Leonard Nimoy as Master Xehanort. Here (http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/voice-talent-kingdom-hearts-3d) is the link for that confirmation too :3 I for one am extremely happy Nimoy is actually back for MX. Anyone else have any thoughts?



UGH WHY NO XBOX!
Why do they leave me out :( That's so unfair but that sounds so so so AWESOME for everyone else, I'd love to be able to play themm.

Thats really cool that theirs returning voice actors. :) Maybe they'll reveal the HD Collection at E3 or something like that?

Cid
May 31st, 2012, 09:31 PM
Okay screw it. I've pretty much seen an emptied reply to thread page three times now! (all those phrases I had to type again and again, all that work gone!) One from getting the plug and the battery unwittingly cut by my brother, the other from having to hurriedly move to another laptop, and now from an accidental F5 press? D: Why is this happening to me!?

Back on topic. I wanted to apologize to Erica because I still have not finished that long reply. I've read the whole post though, just don't have my thoughts of it gathered up since I'm fairly bad at this. Maybe if I get a whole day free from any binding responsibilities and requirements.

Stand Alone posted that KH HD compilation rumor. I'm pretty shaky with how legitimate it is given that Vita's listed as one of the titles, but hey if this is real I'll buy a PS3 or a Wii U just so I could play. I want this game!

I've seen that news from SE Europe! I'm happy Hayden Panettiere will be voicing Xion, here's hoping she'll be back to voice her and Kairi every time from now on! Like what Erica said, I don't like it when they get replacement VA's for her. :[

spoiler: KH3D
Granted she'll only be speaking as Xion for that last Destiny Islands cutscene with Roxas, Ventus and her interrogating Riku with one-liners. I'm still happy she's back, nevertheless.

And I really didn't like Leonard Nimoy as MX to be quite honest.
I can't say I'm happy with him back.

Also I haven't played Star Ocean yet. I don't know if it suits me and I never really had the chance to try playing it. But I'm willing to change that. :)

mavy42
June 1st, 2012, 03:12 AM
I want to join!

What is your favourite series made by Square-Enix?
kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy XD

Who is your favourite Kingdom Hearts character?
Ventus!

What console(s) do you hope Kingdom Hearts III will be on?
PSP!!!! PS2, PS3

Ok, here is a good side topic I thought of:
What two keyblades would you dual wield?
Oathkeeper and Oblivion!

Dr.Kotov
June 2nd, 2012, 09:26 AM
Duhuhuhuhuude. Enlist.
Entrancing story lines is what I know Square Enix for, Deus Ex (Human Revolution), Hitman Absolution, The World Ends With You, & Tomb Raider, definitely are, and eventually will be my favourites. Not to mention Sleeping Dogs. Their game design and signature aesthetics for each game are just... phenomenal to me. Deus Ex: HR is one of my recent favourites and easily one of my most enjoyed games.