is solar beam good on groudon?

[mew_master]

right now my groudon knows solar beam, but is it a good move on it? with its instant sunny day ability, i though so, but what do you guys think? also, what are your suggestions on teaching groudon?

[Drayano]

It isn't really good for Groudon. STABed EQ is much better.

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 142 HP / 96 Atk / 252 Spd / 20 SAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Overheat

Probably a better nature, but can't think what it is right now.

[Mullet]

Lonely is better than jolly. Also, I like these EVs better 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP.

To answer the question no, because if you want to use it effectivly then you have to use valabule EV points in Sp. attack, and plus Overheat>Solar Beam on Groudon.

[Ice demon]

i would rather go fire blast/substitute on groudon rather than overheat
in that case u will need a -SpDef nature + Sp......watever that maybe ^_^

[Skarmory469]

Groudon's Attack is higher than its Sp. Attack so most of its special moves are kinda wasted on it :\

[Mullet]

i would rather go fire blast/substitute on groudon rather than overheat
in that case u will need a -SpDef nature + Sp......watever that maybe ^_^

Good point, the only reason that Overheat would be good on him is because it has a higher base power than Fire Blast, and plus I did say that Overheat>Solar Beam, Eruption could also be used. :D

[Kaiorga8929]

maybe *if* you like a different kind of Groudon (not the standard physical one), you could go for the specials (not recommended though):

Groudon
Modest Nature
6 HP / 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed
- Solarbeam
- Eruption/Flamethrower/Fire Blast
- Earthquake (for STAB high attack issues)
- Hidden Power [Ice]

*remember, this Groudon is for those that want something different from most other standards, and it is highly not recommended since Groudon's attack is far better that sp. attack...

[Jarmen_Kell]

Well Groudon has 100 Base Sp. Attack, as much as Starmie, but it's Speed is kinda bad...

Groudon@Chesto Berry
Modest
Flamethrower
Solarbeam
Thunderbolt
Rest

[Manser]

Groudon is best as a physical sweeper (jolly/adamant) with fire blast/flamethrower. It works great with a team that will compliment the drought with it, ie a sunnybeaming team, or even one which is normally weak to water.

Exeggutor, Houndoom, etc. work best with it. And anything with HP fire/fire punch/ whatever.

[Kairi]

Lonely is better than jolly. Also, I like these EVs better 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP.

To answer the question no, because if you want to use it effectivly then you have to use valabule EV points in Sp. attack, and plus Overheat>Solar Beam on Groudon.
I like the + speed more than the attack, though. Seems to really help it. And…why lower its defense? O_o; Lower its Special attack if you’re not going to use it.

[Mullet]

I like the + speed more than the attack, though. Seems to really help it. And…why lower its defense? O_o; Lower its Special attack if you’re not going to use it.

I use it though, if I was going with a totaly physical one, but I like to use a fire attack on him. :D