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deoxys121
October 24th, 2011, 07:36 AM
Patricia and her gender queer [transgender] partner Riley were sitting on the bench in front of Tim Horton’s with nine of their family members; which included mom, brother, cousin and various other relatives drinking coffee. Inside Tim Horton’s was the Pastor of Glad Tidings Church who felt in necessary to stare down the couple and theirfamily. After speaking to the Pastor, the manager of Tim Horton’s approached the couple and told them what they were doing was unacceptable and that Tim Horton’s was a “family friendly environment”. The couple looked at the manager with shock and hurt as they were there with their family. When asked what they had done to offend people, the Manager said they were touching, hand holding and making out – The later involved a single kiss the couple had shared in front of mom. The couple gave the standard response stating that heterosexual couples have done the same for all eternity, why was it wrong for this couple? To which the manager declared that the couple had five minutes to leave the property or else the Police would be called. To add insult to injury as the couple was leaving the Tim Horton’s parking lot the current reigning Pastor according to the Church website, Ken Powell chose that time to hold a prayer circle in the Tim Horton’s parking lot to pray for the couple’s souls. The Pastor was joined by 15+ citizens and the prayer circle was held in front of the couple’s family members.Source (http://acclondon.com/press_release/timhortons.pdf)
(I added the "[transgender]" part for clarification)

Just sickening, really. All I can say is this: if I were there, I would have walked off with the family to show my support for them. Also, I hope those people who had that prayer also repented for hatred.

-Jared-
October 24th, 2011, 07:45 AM
Well then, all I can say is that THAT particular Tim Horton's would have lost my business, at least until a new manager was brought in or something. -__-

Oryx
October 24th, 2011, 07:50 AM
Well then, all I can say is that THAT particular Tim Horton's would have lost my business, at least until a new manager was brought in or something. -__-

I wouldn't really blame the manager tbh. His job is to make money - do you really think he wanted to turn away 11 people? He probably had to weigh the business of the pastor and his entire church against the business of that group. What was done was reprehensible, but I wouldn't be so quick to throw blame around.

-Jared-
October 24th, 2011, 07:56 AM
I wouldn't really blame the manager tbh. His job is to make money - do you really think he wanted to turn away 11 people? He probably had to weigh the business of the pastor and his entire church against the business of that group. What was done was reprehensible, but I wouldn't be so quick to throw blame around.

That is true, I hadn't thought of that...as much as it angers me he does have the right to refuse service to anyone he wants. :\

Esper
October 24th, 2011, 09:10 AM
I wouldn't really blame the manager tbh. His job is to make money - do you really think he wanted to turn away 11 people? He probably had to weigh the business of the pastor and his entire church against the business of that group. What was done was reprehensible, but I wouldn't be so quick to throw blame around.
Still, it's wrong. Either the manager felt similarly to the pastor and didn't mind the loss of some revenue if it kept him within his personal morals where this kind of prejudice is acceptable, or he was pressured into kicking them out when his own morals might have been more "live and let live." So the manager was either a jerk or a pushover.

It reminds me of that one television show where they put actors in situations like this to see how bystanders react. There's one which is just like this, actually.

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Mr. X
October 24th, 2011, 09:14 AM
In situations like this, the manager could have either done the right thing or the easy thing.

He did the easy thing.

Alli
October 24th, 2011, 09:29 AM
As if we didn't have enough people that embarrass those who follow religion. Thanks, pastor! Yeah. Had I been there and I saw what was going on, I would have approached the manager and told him he made a mistake. I would have approached the pastor and said that for a Christian, he needs to learn to love thy neighbor, know we're all God's creatures, etc etc etc. You know. That part of Christianity most "Christians" ignore? Yeah. That stuff.

Stormbringer
October 24th, 2011, 09:33 AM
I literally just said to avoid really plain and narrow news threads. Read the announcement.

*locked*