Rate my brute-force team!

[@lex]

Rate my team! It's like BASED on brute force!
I am certain that it needs some changes, the thing is that I would like more strategy in it. Or maybe you think that this is the ultimate team and that noone should change anything, i don't know. But please tell me what you think! Here it comes!
And by the way, they all are Lv. 100, mind you!
-----------
Pokémon - Nature @ Item
Moves
-
Tyranitar - Adamant @ Quick Claw
Crunch
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Hyper Beam
-
Ho-oh - Calm @ Lax Incense
Sacred Fire
Aerial Ace
Giga Drain
Thunderbolt
-
Metagross - Sassy @ Salac Berry
Psychic
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Hyper Beam
-
Rayquaza - Lax @ Lum Berry
Flamethrower
Surf
Thunderbolt
Dragon Claw
-
Mewtwo - Jolly @ Petaya Berry
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic
-
Articuno - Timid @ Apicot Berry
Mind Reader
Sheer Cold
Water Pulse
Ice Beam
-------------
Go on and rate! And yes, You should have a VERY good reason to remove the Mind Reader + Sheer Cold Combo! I love that one (pretty cheap, I know, but it works!)!

[Omega Latios]

wow you team brute force is 90000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10
my team has no match to your team

[Demonion]

Rate my team! It's like BASED on brute force!
I am certain that it needs some changes. Well, here it goes!
And by the way, they all are Lv. 100, mind you!
-----------
Pokémon - Nature @ Item
Moves
-
Tyranitar - Adamant @ Leftovers
[B]Dragon Dance
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Taunt/Rest[B]
-
Ho-oh - [B]Bold @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Sacred Fire
Calm Mind
Recover
Thunderbolt
-
Metagross - Adamant @ Choice Band
Slugde Bomb/Brick Break/Explosion
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Shadow Ball
-
Rayquaza - Mild/Rash @ Leftovers
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dragon Dance
Extremespeed
-
Mewtwo - Timid @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Recover/Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic
-
Articuno - Calm @ Leftovers
Mind Reader
Sheer Cold
Rest/whatever
Ice Beam
-------------
Go on and rate! And yes, You should have a VERY good reason to remove the Mind Reader + Sheer Cold Combo! I love that one (pretty cheap, I know, but it works!)!

Fixes are in bold, btw articuno has a very limited movepool :(

[Shuckle]

o man I could never beat this team /sarcasm.

[Aaron5367]

Wow thats a pretty good team! Looks at post above his... Why are you so rude to everyone Shuckle? 9.6/10 I'd have trouble beating it myself!

Thanks,
Aaron

[Spike Razzor]

Wow thats a pretty good team! Looks at post above his... Why are you so rude to everyone Shuckle? 9.6/10 I'd have trouble beating it myself!

Thanks,
AaronAsking him why hes so rude is like asking you why you are here... Pointless. Theres been a flood of people who don't know much showing up here, honestly, your one of them.

[Kholdstaire]

Yes, people need to stop talking like they know what they are talking about.

/me looks at self

ohshi

/me runs

[Phlemingo]

Kholdstaire you bad bad n00b >:O

[Kholdstaire]

Kholdstaire you bad bad n00b >:O

spank_me

more characters

[klducks]

spank_me

no let me... i insist ;-)

and demonion, and i dont the point of having all those resters if they are all sweepers and the team doesnt have a beller/therapist... =\

[Demonion]

no let me... i insist ;-)

and demonion, and i dont the point of having all those resters if they are all sweepers and the team doesnt have a beller/therapist... =\

My neither now i look at it :/ i was a little tired back then or something...or too lazy to make a good rate for someone who thinks hyper beam is good

[DragonKing]

Um, is it just me or is Articuno the only pokemon in your lineup that averages lower than 100 for its base stats? 00ber/legendary/extremely OU lineups get kind of boring. There is like no strategy involved. Even if you want brute force, Hyper Beam is terrible (unless of course you had Slaking in your lineup since it is naturally hindered by Truant). If you are looking to add strategy to your lineup, give each pokemon a role (and I don't mean physical sweeper, physical sweeper, special sweeper, special sweeper, etc.), and don't give the same role to more than one pokemon. There should be reason for everything in your lineup.

Take care,
David

[Jshadias]

Even if you want brute force, Hyper Beam is terrible (unless of course you had Slaking in your lineup since it is naturally hindered by Truant).

Hyper Beam is a bad move on Slaking, since it prevents Slaking from switching. With Return or Double-Edge, you can attack and then switch on the turn that you would otherwise be disabled on due to Truant (or Hyper Beam). The extra power isn't worth it. In fact, a Hyper Beam Slaking would probably be detrimental to the team.

[PokéMaster Forever]

Everyone knows that! That was a pointless post!

[Pokemon is chess]

yeah someone is mad because they were banned from www.smogon.com

[Demonion]

Um, is it just me or is Articuno the only pokemon in your lineup that averages lower than 100 for its base stats? 00ber/legendary/extremely OU lineups get kind of boring. There is like no strategy involved. Even if you want brute force, Hyper Beam is terrible (unless of course you had Slaking in your lineup since it is naturally hindered by Truant). If you are looking to add strategy to your lineup, give each pokemon a role (and I don't mean physical sweeper, physical sweeper, special sweeper, special sweeper, etc.), and don't give the same role to more than one pokemon. There should be reason for everything in your lineup.

Take care,
David

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Metagross and Tyranitar...

[DragonKing]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Metagross and Tyranitar...
True, but they are even stronger than Articuno which is considered a legend. :\

Hyper Beam on Slaking, assuming you don't use Choice Band, can be very useful. Even though it prevents you from substituting that turn, Slaking isn't just a physical sweeper, it can also be used as a tank (good Def, great HP, Amnesia can double Sp Def, knows Slack Off, etc.). Return will only do 151 base damage (102 max + STAB), whereas Hyper Beam will do 225. It's a bigger difference when you factor in STAB. Jshadias, if you'd like to rip my whole team apart, I'll post it for you in a new thread. Just let me know. ;)

Take care,
David

[@lex]

Keep to the subject! Please!

[Tsugaru]

its a good team 8/10 but keep it away from water and ice type they will wip this team {no offence}

[Firebird]

Full of Ubers....
*Shakes head*

[Kholdstaire]

Keep to the subject! Please!

And your post has what to do with the subject? Stop modding, dammit.

Anyway, Pokemaster is funny =]

[Shuckle]

Wow thats a pretty good team! Looks at post above his... Why are you so rude to everyone Shuckle? 9.6/10 I'd have trouble beating it myself!

Thanks,
Aaron

because I am rude, if you have a problem with it PM me. there is a reason why I have negative reputation.

[HellishHades]

because I am rude, if you have a problem with it PM me. there is a reason why I have negative reputation.

I'm probably the bigger arse, but I still don't have any red blocks according to the user CP -- yet. You should just turn off the bloody useless blocks like I have.

[Shuckle]

cant claim that I am most hated if I'm not red blocked. :]

[PokéMaster Forever]

Anyway, Pokemaster is funny =]

Shut up, dumb man!

[HellishHades]

Shut up, dumb man!

Yet snother example of someone not following their own advice when the criteria of said advice is met.


Anyway, Pokemaster is funny =]

I second that.

[Pokemon Is Poker]

True, but they are even stronger than Articuno which is considered a legend. :\

Hyper Beam on Slaking, assuming you don't use Choice Band, can be very useful. Even though it prevents you from substituting that turn, Slaking isn't just a physical sweeper, it can also be used as a tank (good Def, great HP, Amnesia can double Sp Def, knows Slack Off, etc.). Return will only do 151 base damage (102 max + STAB), whereas Hyper Beam will do 225. It's a bigger difference when you factor in STAB. Jshadias, if you'd like to rip my whole team apart, I'll post it for you in a new thread. Just let me know. ;)

Take care,
David

It's just not worth it when you factor in the extra turn. I could go more indepth but just liken it to a kind of imaginary Wobbuffet for your opponent that appears every time you Hyper Beam. Consider the fact that Wobbuffet is banned in common play and you've got why Hyper Beam Slaking sucks. Also consider that if you do kill something, they can kill you right back easily with a move you are weak too. You are also open to a huge variety of stat-upping moves and moves like Substitute that you'll be giving your opponent at no cost. Its far from worth the extra power.

Slaking should never ever ever be used without Choice Band. Its purpose is to hit very hard once and then switch out, there is no other reason to use it.

And go ahead and post a RMT, I prefer to help people who already have some idea of what they are doing anyways. Trying to explain stuff to people who don't know the basics (well Slaking needing CB is pretty basic...) can get pretty annoying (especially when their english is poor ._.).