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Hikamaru
January 16th, 2012, 05:02 AM
In every game, there is always one Gym Leader that is a big hurdle for us, and Black & White is no exception.

Which of the Gym Leaders in Unova gave you the most difficulty?

Vote in the poll but don't forget to give your reasons why you thought that Gym Leader/s was tough.

Katholic Nun
January 16th, 2012, 05:40 AM
It's been a while now since I played B/W, but from memory the ones I had the most trouble with were Lenora and Brycen. I think Lenora is so difficult because people tend to underestimate the power of Normal-type Pokemon, which is a lesson I should have learned from Whitney back in Generation 2 but obviously didn't lol

Natural Harmonia Gropius
January 16th, 2012, 07:21 AM
Lenora, because when we face her, we don't have a strong team yet, and so we're unprepared for her Watchog which hits like a TANK.

BillyMiles
January 16th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Lenora always guves me trouble even if I evolve my starter! :(

Hyuga D
January 16th, 2012, 09:43 AM
Elesa. That girl's Emolgas always using the Volt Switch... I had luck when I fought against her in White, but in Black, I got angry with the game! I put my Zekrom in Black and pulverized them!

이큐리
January 16th, 2012, 02:22 PM
The only gym that I had a hard time with was Elesa's gym.
Her Emolga's were kicking me around a lot. :(
I think it took 2-3 tries for me to beat her the first time.

Second to Elesa would probably be Lenora. Lenora's Herdier was a little tough for the level my Pokemon were at the time. :P

Azure
January 16th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Elesa & Lenora. Oh! and also Clay, I had trouble with his team using Bulldoze repetitively.

Hikamaru
January 16th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Elesa & Lenora. Oh! and also Clay, I had trouble with his team using Bulldoze repetitively.

I found Clay very easy, I took out his Excadrill without any problems.

Elesa was easy, I beat her with only a Zebstrika - mine was female and used Attract.

Lenora and Drayden were the only troublesome ones for me.

PlatinumDude
January 16th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Lenora was a bit hard because of her Watchog's Hypnosis. In Black, it was a tough fight against Watchog using Dewott, but I eventually succeeded. In White, I was lucky to have Pignite's Arm Thrust hit 5 times.

Novalie
January 16th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Lenora and Elesa were the only ones I ever had to rebattle.
Why?
Lenora: Like others have said, we just haven't built up a strong team by the second badge. It was especially hard for me since I ditched my starter almost every time. I eventually figured out how to beat her in one try, but my first game I probably had to go back 5-6 times.

Elesa: Effin' Emolga, right? I didn't have a Rock or Ice type, and I didn't have any Pokemon who were particularly speedy either, so Elesa was a b***h to beat. Took me 3 times to beat her the first game. :c

iamdominic
January 16th, 2012, 06:57 PM
I think Lenora is the most difficult gym leader because of her Watchog with Hypnosis/ Retaliate. Her Herdier is no problem, except for it using Leer so Watchog's Retaliate does even more damage.

2Cool4Mewtwo
January 16th, 2012, 07:40 PM
They were all easy, but hardest out of the bunch had to be Lenora... I underestimated it and watchog made one of my 'mons faint...

Other than that, I had no trouble at all with any of the gym leaders.

miltankRancher
January 17th, 2012, 01:02 AM
The Unova Gym Leaders were far by for me the easiest set. Except for Lenora. I played this gen almost ten times already, and god. Lenora could still scare the living hell out of me.

何贤豪
January 17th, 2012, 06:59 AM
Urf! Lenora...one word to explain how the battle went. HARD.
I had to train a Timburr until it evolved to win.

Manegok
January 17th, 2012, 07:11 AM
Lenora. I haven't got good team when i fought her, so i had little problem with her Watchog.

k6666
January 17th, 2012, 07:13 AM
Lenora >.<
hate her watchog even i evolve my tepig to pignite
it alwasy sleep cause that *u***ng hypnosis move
i can beat her when my pignite in lv 30 =.=

Hyuga D
January 17th, 2012, 02:42 PM
Lenora >.<
hate her watchog even i evolve my tepig to pignite
it alwasy sleep cause that *u***ng hypnosis move
i can beat her when my pignite in lv 30 =.=

why didn't you catch a timburr in Pinwheel Forest Entrance?? I used one and I bought some awakens... It resolved the problem :)

Forever
January 19th, 2012, 12:00 AM
@ Those who chose Lenora: Ya'll crazy (not in a literal sense!) With uhhhh what is that attack Pignite has that hits twice, Arm Thrust? Yeah. Just like, grind your Pignite's and BOOM, it'll be strong w/ Arm Thrust and can easily OHKO the Watchog.

PLUS PLUS PLUS you can also EV train early on w/ the Patrat's and the Lillipup's. :3 Sooo Arm Thrust should be strong enough!!

Oh yeah and for those w/ issues with Elesa, go grab a Pokemon in the desert. idk like a Sandile and level it up. Suddenly, Volt Switch and Emolga aren't as much of an issue anymore. Or at least that's how it should work. I just normally grind my Emboar. :x

I'd agree with those who chose the dragon gym leaders and the starter-based gym, since with the way the gym is designed you can't really go back and heal yourself without beating ALL the trainers and without your own Axew it's kinda difficult. :( And as for the starter gym, yeah... not using the monkey early on kinda can suck. ;;

Cassino
January 19th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Lenora, probably. Funny how it's always the normal-type leaders... but I didn't have an Onix this time!
Anyway, Herdier is wickedly strong for so early in the game; it's like Misty's Starmie in R/B/G all over again. I didn't have any trouble with her Watchog, unlike many posting here. I did have a Mienfoo (traded) and my own Herdier, so I met her on even footing, but bizzarely even then the battle was somewhat troubling.

Drayden/Iris was a pushover compared to Clair.

Iceman3317
January 19th, 2012, 12:25 PM
Clay was the hardest for me both on Black and White. I had problems with his dang Steamroller move. That move pretty much KOed all my pokemon. Took me a lot of tries to finaly beat him.

I found the rest of them pretty easy to beat. I got me one Vanillia or what ever it's called and KOed all the pokemon in 1 to 2 hits in the dragon gym

TheronElite
January 19th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Lenora is by far the hardest. She always seems to be able to sweep my team with her Herdier.

Hikamaru
January 19th, 2012, 01:51 PM
Clay was the hardest for me both on Black and White. I had problems with his dang Steamroller move. That move pretty much KOed all my pokemon. Took me a lot of tries to finaly beat him.

I found the rest of them pretty easy to beat. I got me one Vanillia or what ever it's called and KOed all the pokemon in 1 to 2 hits in the dragon gym

That move is Bulldoze. Steamroller is exclusive to the Venipede line.

That "Vanilla" Pokemon is Vanillite.

Iceman3317
January 19th, 2012, 08:40 PM
That move is Bulldoze. Steamroller is exclusive to the Venipede line.

That "Vanilla" Pokemon is Vanillite.


Ah thanks. Get Steamroller and Bulldoze mixed up and I knew the name just couldn't remember how to spell. Thank you.


Also I will agree with the people who said Lenora as well. She was difficult for early in the game.

Cassino
January 20th, 2012, 02:39 PM
Steamroller is exclusive to the Venipede line.
Golem also learns Steamroller, at level 18.

Wings Don't Cry
January 20th, 2012, 04:03 PM
Lenora was a big problem for me since I was raising so many Pokemon at that time to see which ones I liked using so my Pokemon were a bit under leveled when I fought her and I ended up going through 6 Pokemon in order to beat her.

Sora
January 20th, 2012, 09:51 PM
Lenora was a big problem to me. I didn't bother training my started (which was Tepig) and and that point I was basically already defense weak. I think I went out and got a Timburr in order to deal with her, after getting pounced on by her Herdier. I don't remember battling her Watchog, so I guess that guy was much easier that her other Pokemon.

As for the second hardest... to be quite honest I don't quite know. After Lenora I basically had an easy ride with the gym leaders, and didn't have much trouble until the Elite Four.

banngr
January 21st, 2012, 02:15 AM
For lenora i caught a timburr, trained until gurdurr and then traded back and forth for conkeldurr. It laughed at watchog.

Elesa was *****y. Emolga is an annoying little beast.

Arago
January 21st, 2012, 01:24 PM
Lenora and Elesa are the hardest for me. Lenora's Herdier is real tough to bring down, and retaliate can be such a pain if you don't really know how to deal with it. In my experience, it seems to do less damage if you switch out before it's used. Maybe that's just because the other Pokémon I switch to tends to have more HP and higher defense, though. But goodness, they seem to make normal type gym leaders a little harder than everything else.

Elesa is hard if you don't have a ground or rock type (which I never do, because I don't like the ground and rock types available up to that point).

Hikamaru
January 24th, 2012, 03:46 AM
I see Lenora dominating that poll, her Herdier's Take Down and Watchog's Retaliate/Hypnosis can cause so much trouble.

IDK why second gyms are so troublesome.

Jellicent♀
January 24th, 2012, 09:25 AM
Lenora and Elesa, of course. I did have a little bit of trouble with Brycen my first time, but not compared to the other two.

Balalaika
January 24th, 2012, 01:17 PM
Burgh, my team's always pretty crappy at this point and his Leavanny always seems to be a huge problem, regardless of my starter. Lenora and Elesa are also a pain. Funny how I struggle with the first gym leaders and not the later ones.

The Nightmare
January 24th, 2012, 01:22 PM
The first one was a headache, i couldn't barely defeat them with one pokemon.