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SwirlyBirds
January 23rd, 2012, 04:45 PM
Cheren and Bianca. Is two rivals better than one? Discuss.

ILoveRobots
January 23rd, 2012, 05:45 PM
I like it, Chance to meet the both starter pokemon in single player game.

XEL
January 23rd, 2012, 06:11 PM
I didn't really like it. Mostly because they weren't exactly rivals. I'd prefer it to be like the old games where your rival was actually a rival :/

PlatinumDude
January 23rd, 2012, 06:15 PM
Honestly, I didn't feel that Bianca was a rival; she was more like a traveling friend who needed help on the way. But still, it was good to see 2 rivals in the game with the other 2 starter Pokemon.

Hikamaru
January 23rd, 2012, 06:27 PM
Honestly, I didn't feel that Bianca was a rival; she was more like a traveling friend who needed help on the way. But still, it was good to see 2 rivals in the game with the other 2 starter Pokemon.

I agree with you there, 2 rivals really changed the story plus that way all the starter Pokemon are owned between the 3 of you.

Iceman3317
January 24th, 2012, 04:36 AM
I like starting with 2 rivals. It is how it was meant to be. You get to see all 3 starters and I just like the whole friendship bond.

Forever
January 24th, 2012, 06:05 AM
I'm just going to say that firstly I'm glad you added "discuss" because I really hope people DO discuss later down the track. Just remember no detailed personality discussion here etc.

I agree with what others have said in regards to there only really being one rival: Cheren. Bianca is more like your protege than anything, much like Wally in R/S/E. Cheren is definitely the battler, while Bianca's just the supporting friend really. :(

Jellicent♀
January 24th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Cheren reminded me a little bit of Gary; smart, but a jerk at times.
Bianca wasn't much of a rival, more like a good friend that traveled with you, which I love the thought of. Kind of felt like I was Ash in the anime.

Syni
January 24th, 2012, 10:42 AM
Having two rivals was definitely fun and unique in it's own way.
I agree with Iceman as well about the starters.

The Nightmare
January 24th, 2012, 01:32 PM
having two rivals is good i guess, but normally it looks like your fighting your friends than fighting actual rivals in the other games.

Mechanic
February 3rd, 2012, 10:33 AM
You remember those days when the third pokeball just stayed on the table for the rest of the game??? TIME TO CHANGE THAT!!! All praise for the third rival :D

arbok
February 3rd, 2012, 10:53 AM
I liked it but like others I never felt that Bianca was a rival. She was the weakest of the three friends and that was clearly reflected by her have in the starter weak to yours. She was just focused on having fun whilst all Cheren cared about was strength but later on learns it's more then that, a very traditional rival stance. I'll defenatly agree that it stops me feeling sorry for the third starter just sitting on the side teasing me "I know Charmander is in there but why won't professor give it to me if I'm supposed to catch them all and it's one I'm missing?".
I haven't actually felt like having a true rival since Silver though. May, Barry, Cheren and Bianca are all to nice. You don't feel a real need to beat this jerk like you did with Blue and Silver.

Mechanic
February 3rd, 2012, 12:24 PM
^That...

Gold/Silver rival, he's just plainly too awesome of a rival xD And he's also plainly evil until just about the last part of the game. Loved him all the way and even i remember once i wanted to play as him hehehe.

Overlord Drakow
February 3rd, 2012, 01:26 PM
I would have preferred it if Cheren was more antagonistic to be honest. Bianca was fine as a travelling friend but I think the "actual" rival should be more aggressive and stuff, like in generations one and two.

This is my 1337th post!

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
February 3rd, 2012, 02:06 PM
Like many things in B/W, good idea, but execution could have been better. Bianca never had the feel of a rival, more of a recurring character. And Cheren walks a fine line between arrogant know-it-all and hometown buddy and because of that I'm not really sure what to think of him. Neither one had that "I'm gonna go all out to put you in your place and heaven help anyone who tries to interfere" menatality that I want from my rivals, and that was disappointing.

BTW, my dream rival is one who grows so desperate to beat you he joins the evil team and does stuff like kidnap others to lure you into battle.

Ephemeral Euphoria
February 3rd, 2012, 02:27 PM
Cheren was boring, Bianca was a joke, only trainer I considered to be a rival was N lol.

Seriously though, Cheren felt like a cardboard cutout of Gary/Silver IMO while Bianca didn't feel like a trainer to begin with due to her personality in general not to mention both of them had pretty weak teams before they got Pokes like Haxorus and Chandelure but even then it wasn't that much of a challenge in all honesty.

Keyaki
February 3rd, 2012, 03:39 PM
I liked the idea of 2 rivals, but Bianca is just an annoying air-head, especially in the show, ugh~

TheLastAvenger
February 3rd, 2012, 06:50 PM
I personally liked the two rivals. It would have been cool to see Cheren was corrupted by N to join Team Plasma because of his idea of becoming the strongest.

Mentalii
February 4th, 2012, 03:31 AM
I didn't feel them as true rivals, so I'd answer "No".
I agree with everybody's opinion, to fight both starters is a great idea. But, Bianca and Cheren weren't up to be protagonist's rival, when fighting them you don't feel the same epic thing you were feeling when you were battling against Gary, Silver or Ruby ... I don't really know why, but it's maybe because they are two.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire
February 4th, 2012, 03:49 AM
Yes, i really liked it, it was a fresh new change, but i would of liked it more if they were strong, especially Bianca, she is such an airhead. Also, you can complete the seeing part of the pokédex without trading pokémon to get that prher starter that was just "left on the desk". This solves that issue.

ThisOneGoon
February 4th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Having two (3 if you count N) rivals was cool.

Daikoru
February 4th, 2012, 04:52 PM
I found it to be really nice. Two rivals, Twice the ammount of rival battles. And I've always liked them, usually even better than Gym Leader battles. But I also liked how we had a good view of their personalities, unlike previous games were they were like "ohai, let's Battle! *loses* see ya!"

Saltare.
February 4th, 2012, 05:02 PM
I like having two "rivals."

Although I could do without Bianca. She's like the "follows you around like a lost puppy" kind of friend to me.