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Bluerang1
January 29th, 2012, 10:04 AM
New from Serebii. New arc beginning February 18th. What do yo think of this name? And what do you expect from its episodes? (Those who don't watch the Japanese Anime). Who do you think we'll see? Any Pokemon you expect to be caught?

I think it's a good name, a but too good for what I expect will be mushy childish episodes -_-

Kenshin5
January 29th, 2012, 10:13 AM
Hopefully Rival Destinies actually leads too more encounters of Trip, Bianca, Burgundy, and Georgia... Which watching the Subs isn't really promising thus far. As far as the captures and all that I will just leave that too speculating since I already know. And the name I love it.

Charicific
January 29th, 2012, 11:02 AM
Never saw that coming . Cool title nevertheless. So. ..thre won't be new episodes till 18 Feb :( ?
Anyway, what I really want to speculate from this title is revelation of backgrounds of Ash's Rivals. Knowing more about Trip and maybe Bianca (like her game counterpart).
I don't feel like I need more Pokemons to Ash's team so no comment on that...

Kenshin5
January 29th, 2012, 11:51 AM
Charicific did you watch the interview with John Loeffler? And yes it would appear that way.

I think expanding on Trip background is a must or should be at least more details on him. I mean we have seen flash backs with him meeting Alder, but that's pretty much it outside of the upcoming episode which doesn't show much either. Bianca though they give her a bit more progression, although for the good or bad that has yet to be seen.

I am just curious how long the run time of this will be. Since there is an 15 episode difference with where they are at now should be 17 gap by the Season Premier. My guess is this may run to the League due to the pacing of this Series. Then we get a post Unova main story arc that encompasses Season 16.

psyanic
January 29th, 2012, 04:43 PM
To the name, I'm indifferent. Sounds a bit too cheesy for my taste, but can't complain.

I'm not too sure about expanding on Trip's background. There's not much you can really put more in there. He's got his inspiration to be a trainer, though I would like to know if there's something more to why he keeps taking pictures of everything. Maybe a giant scrapbook to show his kids or something.

Railgun
January 29th, 2012, 08:12 PM
I wonder if the Japanese team told the dubbers how far they plan to do this so TPCI could order the amount of eps to call it a season. So maybe the league is in this season towards the end due to it being faster then Hoenn and Sinnoh

Kenshin5
January 29th, 2012, 08:31 PM
It's faster then every Series expect Kanto. I would assume coordination would go on between Pokemon Japan and TPCi.

And if they don't add anything to Trips back story at least they should spice the rivalry up a bit. Up till now their rivalry is pretty dull imo. If it's titled "Rival Destinies" then I want to see their journeys and actions intertwine a little more then they have up to now.

smurf
January 29th, 2012, 09:07 PM
i cant wait for it its about time

Mew~
January 30th, 2012, 08:45 AM
I've already seen the interview Kenshin5 mentioned, so I'm not at too suprising. It is a bit of a strange title to use, as like many others have mentioned, we haven't seen a lot of the rivals in the episodes in japan that have aired so far.

I'm just glad it doesn't have to words; battle, Unova or league.

Jorah
January 31st, 2012, 05:03 AM
Yeah, the dub series name doesn't necessarily have much to do with what is happening: Johto League Champions (...where? This was season 4), Battle Dimension (...makes it sound like a different dimension), Sinnoh League Victors (people thinking that the name meant that Ash was going to win). Galectic Battles made it sound like, you know, the majority of episodes would focus on them, but of course they didn't. This title seems weirdly irrelevant to what is happening, though.

Railgun
February 1st, 2012, 05:08 AM
Yeah, the dub series name doesn't necessarily have much to do with what is happening: Johto League Champions (...where? This was season 4), Battle Dimension (...makes it sound like a different dimension), Sinnoh League Victors (people thinking that the name meant that Ash was going to win). Galectic Battles made it sound like, you know, the majority of episodes would focus on them, but of course they didn't. This title seems weirdly irrelevant to what is happening, though.

Well tbh Galactic Battles did have more of the final Galatic battles so that could be why as for SLV Its the Victors of Sinnoh who came together for the Sinnoh League. But yeah season 4 had nothing to do with the Johto League championship.

gamerdna223
February 5th, 2012, 06:39 AM
I love the name "Rival Destinies", but it sounds too similar to a certain TCG set that will be released just 10 days prior to the beginning of this season.

Hikamaru
February 5th, 2012, 06:47 AM
I saw the trailer, I liked Elesa's voice.

Rival Destinies is shaping up to be an awesome season.

TheFuturePokemon
February 5th, 2012, 12:57 PM
The trailer if anyone wants to see it

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Ash-Anime
February 15th, 2012, 10:29 AM
Charicific did you watch the interview with John Loeffler? And yes it would appear that way.

I think expanding on Trip background is a must or should be at least more details on him. I mean we have seen flash backs (http://www.pokecommunity.com/#) with him meeting Alder, but that's pretty much it outside of the upcoming episode which doesn't show much either. Bianca though they give her a bit more progression, although for the good or bad that has yet to be seen.

I am just curious how long the run time of this will be. Since there is an 15 episode difference with where they are at now should be 17 gap by the Season Premier. My guess is this may run to the League due to the pacing of this Series. Then we get a post Unova main story arc that encompasses Season 16.


Kenshin could u please tell me where u found the interiview?

Back on topic:
The Titels sounds awesome it doesnt sound childish to me at all

Kenshin5
February 15th, 2012, 12:55 PM
Kenshin could u please tell me where u found the interiview?

Back on topic:
The Titels sounds awesome it doesnt sound childish to me at all
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=7009551&postcount=337
Interview posted here^

Kirbychu
February 15th, 2012, 09:01 PM
It sounds horribly cheesy, but I've grown accustomed to these types of names ever since TPCi took over.

Mynewusernameiskuzronkjustlookthatup
February 19th, 2012, 01:41 AM
6UpBfCt4qwM

Here's the theme song

Hikamaru
February 19th, 2012, 02:50 AM
6UpBfCt4qwM

Here's the theme song

I think it's the best English Dub theme so far.

gamerdna223
February 19th, 2012, 06:56 AM
That theme song means Japan isn't getting a new one, at least not for Best Wishes. Rival Destinies will probably last us until the league is over at approx. BW105.

chevy9021
February 19th, 2012, 10:03 AM
aye do u kno where i can watch the subbed episodes at

Can someone tell me where i can watch rival destinies episodes japanese vesion

Kenshin5
February 19th, 2012, 10:22 AM
That theme song means Japan isn't getting a new one, at least not for Best Wishes. Rival Destinies will probably last us until the league is over at approx. BW105.
May last around past the 7th Gym or right after 8th. But yeah I can see it lasting to the league. IRRC they don't have seasons so I doubt it will change, if anything it will be the ending that changes as its already did multiple times already.

aye do u kno where i can watch the subbed episodes at

Can someone tell me where i can watch rival destinies episodes japanese vesion
You are prohibited to ask for episodes online. Not to mention this topic doesn't pertain to Subs but the dub season. There is no "Japanese Rival Destinies" anyways.

Charaxes
February 19th, 2012, 11:01 AM
I saw the new intro, today. Song-wise, I actually don't mind it, as I found it rather catchy (and getting used to a duet of singers). I like the fact it was 45 seconds, when the previous one was 31, I think. I just wish TPCI could have done what 4Kids did with the Johto League Champions OP, and hire OLM to create exclusive-for-English-dub animation, instead of clips non-stop. Oh, well.

Not their fault, per se, as the Best Wishes OP is still the one being used in Japan. I've certainly noticed how the Japanese don't update with a new OP as often as they used to, or starting with D/P. Together was, what, 70-80 episodes before High Touch, or something? The previous rate was 50-60 episodes, so things change.

Here's Bulbapedia's breakdown:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rival_Destinies_(song)

I also have to agree with Jorah's assessment, as the titles are there to basically tell apart seasons, which Japanese television doesn't really do. And I have to second gamerdna223's comment that it does sound like a TCG expansion title, which is, actually, Next Destinies. Heh. Wonder if that was intentional. Hmm.... Anyway, if anyone is interested, that's my take.

Next comment to be posted in 6 months or less. Heh.

Jorah
February 19th, 2012, 12:52 PM
:O Charaxes you're alive.

I watched the opening, and it's actually quite nice. The yelling of "Pokemon" made me jump a bit at the end, though XD

I just wish TPCI could have done what 4Kids did with the Johto League Champions OP, and hire OLM to create exclusive-for-English-dub animation, instead of clips non-stop. Oh, well.

That was completely different. The original Japanese opening had *gasp* katakana flying around. And we can't have kiddies being exposed to foreign languages now, can we? So it must be eliminated.

I sort of wish little bits could've came from the ending themes, but the opening animation isn't too bad. It's just all the random clips makes it seem so choppy.

Sheep
February 19th, 2012, 04:15 PM
I like the song but as someone mentioned elsewhere, it sounds the same as every other opening the dub has been getting lately (at least I think so)... :P Too bad they had to use clip shows, takes away from the whole thing imho.

AshPikastar
February 19th, 2012, 08:10 PM
6UpBfCt4qwM

Here's the theme song

I really enjoyed the new Pokemon theme song and opening. It's a lot better then the older one that they had. They did a great job with it so far!

Nezumirai
February 19th, 2012, 08:44 PM
(Yet again, they've been reduced to only showing clips instead of a clever intro like the old generations...)

I'm pretty indifferent. It's about time they came back with a better song. x3

carmelhadinosaur
February 20th, 2012, 05:28 AM
HAH! As soon as I heard it on the episode I felt disappointment, thinking that this is the worst theme song so far.
But as no Pokemon music is bad music and therefore must be awesome, I just fixed the bad thought: listened to it repetitively until I brainwashed myself into liking it, and heck it worked! (as I needed done a few times before but it always comes successful :)

"..We are together now, friends forever now"...

Railgun
February 20th, 2012, 11:47 AM
Better then the dP songs. I still love the BF song they did

Mentalii
February 22nd, 2012, 06:21 AM
Nope. And I don't like the theme song neither.
Rival Destinies... A lack of inspiration emanate from this name. What's next? "Power of friendship" or something like that? It is disappointning...
And the opening is bad. Actually it is a beautiful opening, concerning the visual, but the song is... Boring. Pokémons songs are full of energy, they rock, we wanna sing along with them, dancing (sometimes they are the best part of the episode so they'd better be awesome...) ! And this one is... The second worst opening after the 10th for me.

Gleam Noiyam
February 22nd, 2012, 02:17 PM
I don't like the name of this season or the song it irks me to no end. The dub theme songs reveal too much! And I hope this season gets to at least the seventh gym. Because the first season only got to the first three before ending.

Bluerang1
February 25th, 2012, 06:12 AM
Who begged them to change the title? o_O It's all kiddy again, I liked the original.