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Oryx
January 30th, 2012, 08:19 AM
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3f/Spr_BW_Alder.png

Look at this big hunk of man Champion here. Doesn't he look much older than other champions to you? We know for example, Blue was around 10 since he had just gone on his journey like Red. Lance also looks very young from his sprite, and hasn't seemed to live much. Steven, despite his silver hair, has nary a wrinkle on his face. Wallace seems somewhat older, but still no older than early 20s. Cynthia's also very young, considering her grandmother is alive and doesn't look very old herself.

Now Alder...look at his art:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/71/Black_White_Alder.png

See those lines around his mouth? That wrinkle on his forehead? While Pokemon didn't add many details like that, the few they did add make it very obvious that Alder is supposed to be older than the average Champion. In addition, he's given a mysterious backstory relating to his previous partner and what happened that caused its death.

So, given all this information, how old do you think Alder is? Don't be afraid to reply to others and argue your opinion on his age :3

Yoshikko
January 30th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Okay so what I said about him being 200 years old wasn't really a joke, because he just seems like an ANCIENT character to me, for some reason. But of course that would be far from realistic, even in a Pokémon game so I'd say he's probably around 35/40, judging by that art.

Overlord Drakow
January 30th, 2012, 08:37 AM
This thread reminded me of that badass moment Aldar had when he jumped from a cliff and landed on the ground perfectly fine. I reckon the old man is around 50 myself though.

XEL
January 30th, 2012, 12:21 PM
I always thought Lance was around late teens to early twenties. Wallace looked to be around late 20's to early 30's. Steven looks like late teens to me. Cynthia I imagined to be around mid 20's. But Alder.. I feel like Alder is about 45 give or take a few.

Iceman3317
January 30th, 2012, 05:44 PM
I'd have to say he is about 45. That just seems like his age.

PlatinumDude
January 30th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Alder looks like he could be in his late 30s/early-mid 40s, just by looking at him.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
January 30th, 2012, 11:37 PM
Mid 40's, possibly pushing 50. He looks aged, but not to the point where male pattern baldness or graying hair has set in yet.

Connorsauras_Rex
January 30th, 2012, 11:54 PM
45-55 i think, not just because of his wrinkles but the way he speaks, he seems wise and intelligent and i can't imagine a 20-25 yr old champion like Lance talking like that.

Zapperz
January 31st, 2012, 01:55 AM
i think hes in his late 30s.

Forever
January 31st, 2012, 02:02 AM
Old.

He appears to have no nose, but besides that, I'd say around 40 or so. But the stuff he's wearing looks so old AND looks like Volcarona's design!

Maybe he's like one of those older people that was apart of a tribe or something in Unova which worshipped Volcarona. Together, he and Volcarona decided to travel to the Elite Four to test his skills, upon defeating the other Elite Four easily, he went to face the twin champions who battle together (Reshiram and Zekrom, aka N and your character, according to a theory in another thread). At that time though, the two were fighting, and the two people who were the guardians of Reshiram and Zekrom were destroyed, then reincarnated into you and N. After that, Alder swore to protect them and fight for the good - as well as take over the Elite Four, because he had experience at battling, and with the power of Volcarona he knew he would do well. The "big bosses" of Unova (who were really Ghetsis and Cynthia - who was theorised to be his wife and "mother" of N in another thread - but instead they are the supposed guardians) appoint Alder as the new Elite Four Champion. He then dedicated the rest of his life to helping out trainers, and when he sees your character he immediately realises what's going to happen in the future, so he does his best to defeat N so the destiny isn't fulfilled once more (aka Reshiram/Zekrom fight).

So really, Alder is a wise old man - if this theory were true! y/y?

Mr Cat Dog
January 31st, 2012, 10:09 AM
57. Maybe give or take a year or two. But that's what I'm sticking with.

He does look older than most of the other Champions, but I think a lot of them are older than their 'youthful' sprites give them credit for (with the exception of Blue, obviously). In the case of Cynthia, I know some people aged 30+ who still have a healthy grandmother, and would easily place her in her early 30s. And maybe the make-up industry in the Pokemon world is just great at concealing all these wrinkles (or maybe there's a hidden plastic surgery in, say, Celadon or Castelia... YOU NEVER KNOW!). Point being: I don't think Alder is dramatically older than some of the other Champions, but he definitely will be a bit older.

Danger Zone
January 31st, 2012, 10:20 AM
Early 50s, really. Alder does seem like that, with his sprite and art. He even wears clothes that seem kinda old fashioned for Unova. The way he talks really makes him seem like he has spent years out in the world, gathering knowledge to pass onto young minds like the hero of the B/W games.

Plus the kind of wisdom he has and the way he talks really make him seem like an old timer lol :x tbh I actually liked Alder as an old man, really fit his role as a champion.

Esper
January 31st, 2012, 10:30 AM
Alder seems more weather-beaten than old. I imagine part of his looks are from traveling and all that jazz. But he does have the "old soul" kind of feel. I would say at least 40.

I also think the other champions are a bit older - mid 20s at least, except for Blue of course.

Blue
January 31st, 2012, 10:35 AM
I'm thinking around 50, he seems mature but not extremely old.

morrison
January 31st, 2012, 11:29 AM
I reckon he is mid fifities

Mid 40's, possibly pushing 50. He looks aged, but not to the point where male pattern baldness or graying hair has set in yet.
baldness isnt a sign for age really. When i went to school i had a guy one year ahead(year 12) who was going bald quickly and I know a couple of people(my brother in law) ie who are bold at late 20s.

tente2
January 31st, 2012, 12:26 PM
He...always seemed to be in his mid 30's to me, with premature wrinkles. Wallace seems way older than him. I always thought Wallace was 53 or something.

Yoshikko
January 31st, 2012, 12:34 PM
Old.

He appears to have no nose, but besides that, I'd say around 40 or so. But the stuff he's wearing looks so old AND looks like Volcarona's design!
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Lol that is.. what.. he does have a nose Nica.. how would that even relate to his age I don't get you XD It's just the drawing style lol. WHY'D YOU EVEN POINT IT OUT XD

Also I agree with Scarf on the fact that he's probably just weather-beaten etc.

tente2
January 31st, 2012, 12:37 PM
He appears to have no nose,

Ohh you remind me of Oban Star Racers.




Scarf-I like "weather-beaten". Nice choice of words. (Sounds a lot better than "premature wrinkles". )

arbok
January 31st, 2012, 12:47 PM
I saw him as the oldest champ. Wallace as well I also thought was bit older then the others. I'd sayAlder was about 40s-50s same as most other people seem to think.
I always thought lance was in his mid twenties not late teens. I never thought there was a champ younger then twenty except Blue

Forever
January 31st, 2012, 05:32 PM
57. Maybe give or take a year or two. But that's what I'm sticking with.

He does look older than most of the other Champions, but I think a lot of them are older than their 'youthful' sprites give them credit for (with the exception of Blue, obviously). In the case of Cynthia, I know some people aged 30+ who still have a healthy grandmother, and would easily place her in her early 30s. And maybe the make-up industry in the Pokemon world is just great at concealing all these wrinkles (or maybe there's a hidden plastic surgery in, say, Celadon or Castelia... YOU NEVER KNOW!). Point being: I don't think Alder is dramatically older than some of the other Champions, but he definitely will be a bit older.

Pfft, if he's only just older than the other champions and you say Cynthia is early 30s, that's a whole 20 years, which isn't that close really. ;x 5 years, sure, but 20? Nah.

Lol that is.. what.. he does have a nose Nica.. how would that even relate to his age I don't get you XD It's just the drawing style lol. WHY'D YOU EVEN POINT IT OUT XD

Because I was looking for wrinkles and signs of stuff and that stuck out ;__;

pryce10
February 1st, 2012, 04:51 AM
I am sure he ain't older then my avater here (Pryce) HECK I doubt he is older then Dryeden from last Gym. Point is he is old but I REALLY doubt he is old enough to be called 'gramps'

Ciz
February 1st, 2012, 11:59 PM
I feel that he's just a big guy in the outside, but about 30s in his inside.

But yeah experience-wise he might be 50 give or take a few.

Zythrone
February 2nd, 2012, 10:26 AM
Early 40s is my guess...

He is old though...

In fact I think its mentioned that he doesn't know how to use the Pokemon Storage System, so that could be a reference to his age...

I'm not sure if that was in the game or if I just read that somewhere...

Railgun
February 2nd, 2012, 10:33 AM
54 I bet. The truth behind him is when Pain defeated Jiraiya the man never died he like the 4th got sent into the Pokemon world. Actually considering the 4th was taught by Jiraiya Jiraiya-Alder 4th Hokage-Volkner it works XD

But in all seriousness 50s or 60s.

ghaskan
February 2nd, 2012, 11:44 AM
If he had enough time to have trained his starter to the point it died (I always assumed the illness had been contracted due to tiredness), grieve and wander about without a aim, plus he still got another team of strong Pokémon... so that alone indicates he cannot be very young, even if he started his journey when he was 10. Then there are the wrinkles, but honestly I've seen plenty of men in their middle 30s looking like that because they work outside. Alder himself seems to be the type of man who enjoys a good journey so... I would put him between 36-38 years old.

Alli
February 2nd, 2012, 06:14 PM
well he is clearly over the age of 10 so blue needs to move over. he is definitely able to drive a car, so shut up cynthia. he is able to pay for his own hair care products, so that cuts out wallace. he doesn't use olay rejuvenating cream like steven, so that's smudged. dragons are for chumps so lance can go cry in dragon's den. so CLEARLY by elimination he is at least........................26. no he's got to be mid 40's - 50. don't question my logic here it's flawless.

TheLastAvenger
February 3rd, 2012, 07:32 PM
Alder seems to be in his mid 40s in my opinion. I just saw him as a wiser champion compared to the others. I can't really explain it but I just see him as mature.

Mentalii
February 4th, 2012, 04:12 AM
I think he is as old as Professor Oak, so he's exactly 50.
Maybe Alder seems a little younger than Oak, because he hasn't gray hair and so on, but being 50 doesn't mean looking particularly old !

Beloved
February 4th, 2012, 01:42 PM
I think he is as old as Professor Oak, so he's exactly 50.
Maybe Alder seems a little younger than Oak, because he hasn't gray hair

Or does he? Maybe the orange and red is just hair dye, to cover up the fact that he is old?

King Goodra
February 4th, 2012, 01:46 PM
56. He looks too old to be in his 40s. My dad is in his 40s and looks a lot younger than that, and most of the parents I know look younger than Alder does. 50s is when someone starts to age that much in their face, usually. He doesn't look too old, but he's definitely old enough that he's started appearing old.

ThisOneGoon
February 4th, 2012, 02:43 PM
55, no less.
The Cliff Argument seems to render him a bit youbger, though...

HyperXhydra
February 4th, 2012, 02:53 PM
Alder looks like he's in the early 50's.

J1KTheGamer
February 4th, 2012, 02:54 PM
id say hes 35~40 and btw did anyone noticed he have not 6 but 9 pokeballs on the art o.o

Mentalii
February 5th, 2012, 11:26 AM
Or does he? Maybe the orange and red is just hair dye, to cover up the fact that he is old?

I don't think so, developers aren't the kind to tint their character's hair :pink_tongue: