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Hiroshi Sotomura
February 25th, 2012, 06:01 PM
So everyone's been caught up on this "third game" business, and now we've got two games with a "2" at the end of them. So here's a discussion on just how significant the "2" really is.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b8/Spr_5b_585.png
So why are these games titled with a "2"? It could imply a lot of things.

For example, it could hint that we have an entirely new adventure. It could take place in a new region, with similar Pokémon. It does sound unlikely. Maybe it's an adventure in Hoenn, and N is indeed there!

Or, it takes place in Unova again, and Hilbert/Hilda are all grown up. After all, there's a lot of loose ends in Black/White that ought to be tied; are these games the ones to address them?

In the worst case, it'd suggest that it's indeed the "third game" type of games in the series. A director's cut. The same adventure in Black/White but with major twists and turns.

So what do you think?

A note on sources:
At this time, all we've received is a banner picture, logos, and a little bit of general information. Any other reporting from a non-primary source isn't relevant.

Hoenn
February 25th, 2012, 06:06 PM
That's true, we have no idea that this actually takes place in Unova yet, the fact that it's "2" is something that they wouldn't come up with for a third game. Normally they would show some footage upon the announcement as they did with HGSS.. maybe they're hiding something.

Cello
February 25th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I hope there's not going to be an argument in this thread. :|
I feel like there is, since everyone's been touchy about this.

Personally I think the "2" means it's a sequel, whether it's direct from where the story left off or later.
If it were a director's cut I feel like it would be somewhat of false advertisement.

The thing is, I'm having a hard time seeing where they're going with this. We've explored and conquered Unova as the main characters in B/W. I feel like we'll be playing as a new character in a different region, wherever N went off to.

G.U.Y.
February 25th, 2012, 06:08 PM
I don't think it will be a drastic as having a new adventure in a new region/Hoenn. I believe that it will take place in Unova and the plot will take place later in order to tie up all the loose ends of the B/W plot.

It will have more differences than a general third game, but not as many as a completely new game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2012, 06:12 PM
I think it means a possible sequel, maybe a year or so after BW in which a new trainer (the third hero) tries to fix the balance which was disturbed.

PlatinumDude
February 25th, 2012, 06:13 PM
I think the 2 part means that these particular versions of B/W will have a more expanded (or improved) storyline, similar to Platinum and Emerald. Considering the 2 Kyurem formes that were revealed, I think that Kyurem will play some important (related to Team Plasma) role in those games, along with Reshiram and Zekrom (in their respective versions).

Hoenn
February 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM
Hopefully it wont be long until the first info/pics start leaking out, I just can't really think what it could mean though. A bunch of new cities in Unova maybe?

G.U.Y.
February 25th, 2012, 06:24 PM
Hopefully it wont be long until the first info/pics start leaking out, I just can't really think what it could mean though. A bunch of new cities in Unova maybe?

Unova is connected to a larger piece of land like Kanto and Johto. So I think there is the possibility that Unova will be expanded much more than Sinnoh and Hoenn were in their third game.

Genesect
February 25th, 2012, 07:38 PM
Man, I would love if they expanded Unova inland and outland more and at least provide a walking route to Anville town or add more water routes. Also, we have completely no idea whether it would take place in Unova, an improved Unova or a completely new region! But if it was a completely new region, that would mean new pokemon and that means incompatibility with Black and White :(. I don't want transfer, I want trade!

Forever
February 25th, 2012, 08:05 PM
I'd say it means two regions and (a big surprise) a sequel. I mean logically it'd make sense, and the fact that it seems like almost everything from Black and White has a second meaning so yeah. ;x

Oh yeah and the fact that Black and White are the most basic shades, and two is... just a number, so instead of anything fancy, the most basic thing? ;x

Twiggy
February 25th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Since they didn't go with the usual naming convention this time around, I'm inclined to believe that this might end up being true sequels. :) I think I'm going to expect all new stuff for the most part, aside from possibly region and Pokémon choices (mostly). I think instead of expanding on the original BW, they'll just run with their own stuff. (BW ended with a hook to a sequel)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2012, 08:18 PM
If they were going for something basic why not name them Grey or Gray that seems more basic and simple than adding a 2...I think the two references that Kyurem and the tao trio are now two pokemon while at the same time denoting that it's a sequel to BW.

Ravecat
February 25th, 2012, 08:19 PM
I think the '2' basically signifies that the story will be entirely new, and a continuation from the last games, rather than a reworking and improvement of the original story a la Crystal, Emerald, Platinum.

Chaos Rush
February 25th, 2012, 08:29 PM
I believe this is not exactly a 3rd version, but more like a continuation of the storyline established in Black/White.

There are so many mysteries in Black/White that are not explained:
*Who are the Shadow Triad?
*Why does the Shadow Triad do absolutely nothing but escort you for a few seconds?
*Who are Concordia and Anthea?
*Why does Concordia and Anthea appear very briefly in the castle, and are considered important enough to get their own overworld sprites, and even appear in the intro, when you only see them once the entire game?
*Where is N?
*Where is Ghetsis?

I'm thinking the story isn't over yet, and we will see more in Black 2 & White 2.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2012, 08:40 PM
^ I think the same, they'll proably dive into those backstories they missed and explain what became of Plasma's leaders.

Cherrim
February 25th, 2012, 08:48 PM
I'm really hoping that the 2 implies what it implies in almost any fandom... a sequel!

We get rehashes all the time (I'm talking in the sense of DP->Plat) with some cool upgrades but you still have to play the same game over again. And that's fine with most of us because we actually enjoy playing the games and it gives us an excuse to start a whole new team and check out the changes.

But a sequel? We have never had one of those. BW was a lot more plot-intensive than all the other games and from what I remember, there were a few loose ties at the end that could probably quite easily be twisted into a new story. It would also give an excuse to either timeskip a few years and keep the protagonists, if need be, or have them be mentors or something cool like that. :D I'm getting ahead of myself but I really do think it would be cool if they were sequels. It would be different and different is always welcome in a series like Pokemon where you usually have to pick up an overpriced spinoff game to get something that feels "new".

Mr. Magius
February 25th, 2012, 08:52 PM
Wow, this is really interesting. I'm excited to see how this turns out, and I'll probably be happy with whatever comes up. The thought of having a full sequel to a main series Pokémon game just sounds really cool, instead of just having enhancements here and there. Not saying it WILL be, but :D

And Black Kyurem / White Kyurem? :o ... Is this finally the age of Pokémon Fusion?!

EDIT: By the way, does anyone if these will be for DS or just 3DS? ... or Wii U :I

littlebrother
February 25th, 2012, 09:21 PM
What does it mean? It means the 3DS is officially dead and will probably not survive to see the next Mayan calendar.
EDIT: And it also means that they are now really trying hard to make new things out of old dirt.

Cid
February 25th, 2012, 09:50 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with Lightning.

Pokémon GS was originally called Pokémon 2, if I'm not mistaken. It implied a different story, and in GS's case, it had new Pokémon, a new region, new characters, new mechanics-- new everything; however, GS followed a few things from the previous game such as having Team Rocket as the main villainous team, and having a lot of characters from the previous game reappear. I'm hoping for BW2's case, the "2" means a new region, new protagonists, or at least a completely new plot. They can retain the Generation, it's alright. As long as they make it like how other video game developers handle their sequels, then I'll be happy.

Like Cello's notion, having a "2" in the title yet giving something like Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/Platinum would be false advertisement. And it would make me feel stupid.

Team Fail
February 25th, 2012, 09:56 PM
I think it means that Game Freak is taking their second stab at getting the region's story right. But who knows? It could mean the 2 forms that Kyurem now has apart from it's normal guise.

Tachikaze
February 25th, 2012, 10:36 PM
We don't really know enough yet to make any real sort of call. The 2 however, would indicate a sequel, and not what Nintendo's done in the past with Red > Fire Red, GSC > HGSS, etc. It indicates something else different for the Pokemon franchise, something that fits in with B/W's motif of changing the game.

何贤豪
February 25th, 2012, 11:05 PM
To me, I just think of it as a name and nothing else...They just want to use "2" for now.

FlameChocobo
February 25th, 2012, 11:22 PM
Black 2 and White 2?!?!

Looks like Game Freak is pulling Square-Enix on Pokemon Black and White by starting a branched sequel just like Final Fantasy XIII-2.

kohei
February 26th, 2012, 12:54 AM
I have to admit, although the first thing that sprang to mind was "oh god FF X-2 all over again", BW did leave a lot of things unanswered.

Hopefully, some more info after PokeNobu's released.

Spherical Ice
February 26th, 2012, 03:19 AM
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/

See this synopsis makes me think it is, what I hope it to be, a direct storyline sequel. Platinum, Yellow, Crystal, Emerald: none of them were "incredible new adventures".

Raichupacabra
February 26th, 2012, 04:24 AM
I'm hoping the 2 means it's an actual sequel. What if it was just a third version but from Black/White's point of view? We need at least an overworld screenshot to confirm all of this.

arbok
February 26th, 2012, 04:40 AM
hmm I don't know what to think.
Part of me thinks it could be a place holder name but at the same time that's just lazy and the name 'grey' seems logical for a third Black and White version.
I'm going to take it as a third version like Emerald or Crystal for now so that I'm not disapointed if everyone talks about a whole new story/region and it's not.

Mr. Magius
February 26th, 2012, 04:49 AM
HeartGold and SoulSilver essentially had all of Crystal's extra features, meaning there was no room for a 3rd installment to be made. Black and White left not TOO much room in terms of graphics and features (imo), but the storyline definitely left enough room for a sequel.

I would actually prefer a pair of sequels over a single enhanced remake like what was done in the past, just because of how advanced all of the features are now. For example, Gold and Silver didn't have animated sprites and the player couldn't choose a female character -- so they made Crystal to add the features they thought were missing. In this case, there aren't any obviously missing features.. at least in my mind. I'm not sure if they're planning on still releasing a "Gray" version, but if not, this is my preferred alternative. :o)

JP
February 26th, 2012, 04:53 AM
The way the game ends does seem to hint at a sequel, with the whole "N going elsewhere and Ghetsis escaping" thing. Though, I just feel it'd be odd to have direct sequels within the same region. Perhaps they'll add another region in a similar fashion as G/S did with the second generation? Or maybe they'll add Hoenn and we'll get the chance to visit that region again, doubtful though (that wouldn't really add up to a real 'remake' of the third gen titles, and that would ultimately be a loss of money for Nintendo.)

All I'm really hoping for though is that this isn't just a "third game" split in two. That would be utterly disappointing and completely unnecessary.

Hoenn
February 26th, 2012, 05:11 AM
It could be set in Hoenn but with some Black & White storyline tied in with RSE for example, N's travelled to Hoenn or something along those lines, it a long shot but we just don't know any background to these games yet.

miltankRancher
February 26th, 2012, 05:45 AM
the name is certainly intriguing. GF had been creative with names before but now? adding a simple '2?' That is certainly suspicious at the very least.

worst case scenario: it is the same BW again, with the Kyurem formes as the legendary instead of Yinyang.

Hoenn
February 26th, 2012, 05:47 AM
They definitely have something planned, they're not that stupid to just add a 2, it must be a sequel of some sort.

skyluigi2
February 26th, 2012, 07:51 AM
I'm not sure; it's the first time two games are going to be released as a 'third game', so I'd like to see what differences there'll be between them. A return to Hoenn would be nice, but I'd rather have the remakes.

zlip
February 26th, 2012, 08:05 AM
Personally I really hope those are just working titles. Just adding "2" at the end seems kinda lazy *Cough*supermariogalaxy2*cough*. I doubt its a new reigon as with most new regions come 100+ new pokemon and a new generation and Generation 5 can not be over that fast. I think it'll be exactly like emerald except with slightly altering storylines from each other (White=You catch Zekrom, Black=You catch Reshi) and a similar but different plot from the riginal two games (Gehitsist tries to control all 3 rather than one, and you have to stop him etc...)

Archenoth
February 26th, 2012, 08:14 AM
When I see that there isn't a third game, one that combines the other two for a somewhat special edition, it makes me think that the game will at least have a new story, one that continues from the end of Black and White. Because why have a special edition for each side and not combine them like they have in the past otherwise? Also, it did seem as though the end of Black and White never really showed what happened with some characters. Specifically N and Ghetsis.

Ooka
February 26th, 2012, 09:46 AM
People that don't think 2 is quite creative enough really need to think about how dramatic it is in a main stream title. I'm sure a fair amount of discussion went into if it should actually be called that, I'm sure they figured we'd speculate quite a lot more if they did, so in the end it looks like a smart move just to mess with us. Same for the ruby / sapphire looking things behind the logos.

If it is a sequel and we get a new hero, I'm really hoping it doesn't continue along the path of design it's been on. ;.;

Anyways, yeah, hopefully it's got hoenn involved, I'd love to see Steven in it as a sort of "Red" final boss.

salmence33
February 26th, 2012, 09:56 AM
The 2 is implying that it's a whole new adventure, so I'm expecting a kind of a Colosseum/XD result from this. It could be the same region, same pokemon, but a new character, new destinations, and a new plot line that relates to the previous.

Hoenn
February 26th, 2012, 10:06 AM
The fact that it is BLACK AND WHITE 2 most likely points towards a repeat of Unova just with different content.

ninryu
February 26th, 2012, 10:26 AM
That's weird, they never made a direct sequel before.
Also, what's the deal with "2"? They ran out of names, or something? It's like calling Fire Red "Pokemon Red 2". What is it, Rambo? They could just call the games "Darkness Black" and "Pure White".

Mew~
February 26th, 2012, 10:33 AM
There are tones of possibilities, but then there is also the feeling that these could both just be two third games instead. I'm hoping for either a new region, a direct sequel to Black and White (which seems like quite a lot of people are picking up) or maybe something no one has thought of yet. ;.;

bwburke94
February 26th, 2012, 11:31 AM
A lot of people have brought up the possibility of Hoenn, but straight RS remakes released six months after B2/W2 are far more likely. Why would a sequel to "a new world filled with never-before-seen Pokémon" take place anywhere other than Unova?

Of course, we don't even know if these are sequels or not. We could have our first ever international fourth version, or we could even have prequels.

If these are sequels, I'd look for a G/S/C feel to it. You'd start in a newly introduced part of Unova, and the plot would start tying into the plot of B/W around halfway through.

If these are the equivalent of a third version, I'd expect gym rematches, a Battle Frontier, and the rest of the usual third version stuff. We've all figured out by now that N would get Reshiram and Zekrom, the player has to catch Kyurem, yadda yadda yadda.

In the extremely unlikely event we get our first prequels in series history, we'd get to see N's backstory and (probably) the identity of his real parents. That would be better left to fanon.

Regardless of what B2/W2 actually are, I'd also expect Keldeo and Meloetta to be event-catchable (similar to Deoxys in FR/LG/Emerald) now that they're revealed. Possibly Genesect as well.

As for the identities of the Shadow Triad... I'm predicting that they are NOT the Striaton trio, since that would massively derail the anime, which hasn't even introduced Team Plasma yet.

If the ST does not exist in the anime, and only in the games and the various manga, I could see this working out, though. Adventures/Special dropped a pretty huge hint that the rumor is true in that canon.

Finally, Mewtwo will be catchable despite the current Wi-Fi event's existence, UNLESS there are another set of R/B remakes which I can't really see happening until 2014 in Japan. Speaking of which... happy birthday, Pokémon. 16 years since Red and Green...

Perrie ✿
February 26th, 2012, 01:09 PM
If it was a remake it would just be named grey, or something along the lines. But giving it '2' gives it sequel status. Which it probably is. The pre-release banner mentions an incredible new adventure, not blah blah new features etc. Bottom line, yes, it's a sequel.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 26th, 2012, 01:25 PM
Again saying something is obvious hasn't gotten us anywhere this generation... Maybe Game freak just wanted to try something new by making two third versions and adding an expanded story line...
I do hope that they're sequels though, it'll be nice to have direct sequels instead of just slightly fixed versions of the previous.

Hoenn
February 26th, 2012, 03:00 PM
It could like people are saying just be two third games, one with the features from Black & features for white assigned to each game, i.e White Forest in White 2 & Black City in Black 2 but with the usual extra third game features and some storyline changes.

Nuke
February 26th, 2012, 04:23 PM
I'm tempted to go along with the FF train of thought.

I think this will follow on in Unova leading on in the storyline. As part of the storyline the region will have had some major changes to freshen up the action from the original B/W.

I hate to think were this could lead, R2/B2, G2/S2, R2/S2, D2/P2... could ruin everything made prior to it. I prefer the tried and tested format for releasing pokémon games.

pokehearts
February 26th, 2012, 04:41 PM
I think it means it's a sequel.

Hoenn
February 26th, 2012, 06:57 PM
The "2" is there for a reason.. it wasn't an uncreative idea.

SK3
February 26th, 2012, 07:15 PM
I'm not sure if these games are direct sequels or just BW revamps, but I think it's strange that Nintendo is doing this. GSC was a direct sequel of RBY, yet it took place in a different generation, so it seems that they are trying to expand Gen V. A Grey version would've just been better, I think, but making Black 2 and White 2 = more profit, so I guess these should be treated as a Grey version, just with two different legendaries. I need more info though, before I make a final opinion.

Also, this means RSE remakes next year and Gen VI in 2014-15!

Waffle-San
February 26th, 2012, 10:28 PM
I'm not sure if these games are direct sequels or just BW revamps, but I think it's strange that Nintendo is doing this. GSC was a direct sequel of RBY, yet it took place in a different generation, so it seems that they are trying to expand Gen V. A Grey version would've just been better, I think, but making Black 2 and White 2 = more profit, so I guess these should be treated as a Grey version, just with two different legendaries. I need more info though, before I make a final opinion.

Also, this means RSE remakes next year and Gen VI in 2014-15!

Um, why? What is wrong with expanding Generation V? Everyone thinks they've ran out of new Pokemon design ideas anyways (which is completely ridiculous). Doing a direct sequel gives them so many possibilities. Of course whether they take advantage of that is still up in the air but they appear to be trying. It's funny to me how so many people want remakes, or a next generation; new pokemon, new region and all the like but then as soon as they get it, they dislike it cause it's not what they were expecting, or it isn't the 'same'.

If this is some money grab third version I'll be significantly disappointed but there isn't anything, to me, that suggests it will be. You don't throw "2" in a title unless it is the "second" in a series. I'm stoked and hope when more info is released more and more people will share that excitement.

Cazzef
February 26th, 2012, 10:57 PM
I think its definately a sequel, I can't imagine it being a 'directors cut', the idea of a new adventure has me thinking are we going to travel Unova again?

Nash Bandicoot
February 27th, 2012, 01:47 AM
I am convinced it will be a sequel as they are making TWO games, why waste money making two games when they could just keep the tradition and make it pokemon grey? No, I think in breaking that tradition it will be something big and different to the normal 3rd version. Also, I do not think there will be new pokemon, maybe new forms or a possibility of fusion pokemon, but not new ones. I think the game will be set in Unova, but maybe an expansion of the region. I am hoping that it is set after b/w and continues with the story, maybe team plasma regrouping and expanding on their plans.

Haza
February 27th, 2012, 06:06 AM
My theory the entire story and franchise of Black & White felt unfinished from the beginning, so I feel like "2" is them finishing that. I think they're going to add on to the story, region, and Pokédex. If they weren't, I wouldn't see the point of them making TWO brand new ones instead of just one.

Daydream
February 27th, 2012, 08:01 AM
I so hope this isn't just a third version. I never got on board with the "play the same adventure - but a little bit different!" kind of thing. Also, the description "whole new adventure" makes me think sequel. I hope it's sort of like G/S/C, in the future, to tie up all those loose plot elements. It may be a bit much to expect a new region or new pokemon, but a lot of elements of Black and White felt sadly underused.

Only time will tell however, I hope we get some new information soon.

Horizon
February 27th, 2012, 08:23 AM
I'm pretty certain that this will be a direct sequel, and will involve N and whichever region he went to. I don't think it's a coincidence that the mascot for the games is the same Pokémon that N escaped with, along with the fusion with Kyurem of course. How this will play out remains to be seen.

Hoenn
February 27th, 2012, 08:51 AM
I'm starting to wonder weather it actually is a sequel or just two third games, the fact that they're releasing it much earlier than expected makes me think otherwise.. It could be a mixture of both.

The Author
February 27th, 2012, 09:04 AM
Honestly, I was never a huge Gen V fan.
However, I'm getting pretty excited.

I think the fact that it is Pokémon Black 2 and Pokémon White 2 means that they are sequels. I don't really like what they're doing with it, throwing off the usual pattern of two games then a third (with some remakes thrown in since Gen III), but if it's a good game, it's a good game, is it not? And, honestly, I also feel like they could have done a bit more with B/W, like explain what happens to Harmonia (♥). Maybe they'll do that in the remakes.

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vaporeon7
February 27th, 2012, 10:22 PM
I think it means the games will be sequels. Pokémon Black and White left us with some mysteries and questions that needed answers, and B2 and W2 will surely answer them. It may be that it will be similar to Gold and Silver being a sequel to Red and Blue but instead still being set in Unova. It's way too early to introduce a new generation of Pokémon.

infersaime
February 28th, 2012, 05:40 AM
I think it are sequels after all Gen V is not like the previous gens.

SkullHydra
February 28th, 2012, 08:42 AM
I honestly have no clue why everyone is bashing the fact that the SEQUELS' names are *Insert Game* followed by a 2. If they would've put ShiningWhite, ShadowBlack, or whatever, then people might've thought they were just remakes or remasters of Black and White. Adding the number 2 gives a clear indicator to everyone (Even moms buying it for their kids) what it is... a sequel to Black and White.

The Author
February 28th, 2012, 08:51 AM
I think it means the games will be sequels. Pokémon Black and White left us with some mysteries and questions that needed answers, and B2 and W2 will surely answer them. It may be that it will be similar to Gold and Silver being a sequel to Red and Blue but instead still being set in Unova. It's way too early to introduce a new generation of Pokémon.

Yes, exactly this.
B/W seemed a bit to opened/incomplete. That annoyed me a bit. I figured the third game would tie it all together a bit more so that it makes sense. I guess that is what the sequels are. :)

Glitter_Time
February 28th, 2012, 04:50 PM
The '2' could possibly mean two save files, for the first time ever. Think about it, sequel. new locations, more exploring, two times, differing events?

Forever
February 28th, 2012, 05:00 PM
The '2' could possibly mean two save files, for the first time ever. Think about it, sequel. new locations, more exploring, two times, differing events?

I'd love that, but why when there are two games instead of just one? Wouldn't it be like... easier just to buy the two/make profit better that way?

Glitter_Time
February 28th, 2012, 05:18 PM
Game freak may be watching profits, one version vs two versions, what would everyone rather? Some fans only want the one version instead of buying both, so the 2 game saves idea could possibly incorporate elements of both into one card. Black first play-through, white post-league, and other way around. but that leaves trades in question...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 28th, 2012, 05:28 PM
^ that would be cool but that would make less people likely to buy both...
The 2 makes me think of Z, the initial of the first pokemon announced this gen, Zoroark and Zorua...which N owned/owns...
Also Z is the last letter of the alphabet, symbolizing the end of N's story (N has an alpahbet name, well nickname, so why not?)

Garringman
February 28th, 2012, 06:12 PM
It has to be something bigger than just a revamp of B/W, plus the "2" in the title isn't lazy at all it's something game developers use to indicate sequals, if they wanted to pull a "FR/LG" or "HGSS" and they would be released many years from now. Another thing that seems to be important is that the title pokemon has more relevance to the previous title pokemon in its forms I can't make much of that as of now, but it seems special. Like some people said before I feel that this game is sure to express a few things.
The questions that mean the most to me are:

What Kyurem was doing in space before crashing into the Giant Chasm area
The true identities of the rest of the important members of Plasma not given much development i.e. 6/7 Sages, Anthea and Concordia
The identity of the Shadow Triad
I'm leaning towards them being the Striaton Trio, they just so happened to be the only Gym Leaders not present in the final confrontation in N's Castle, they also happen to be the least active throughout the progression of the game.

alancer
February 28th, 2012, 06:27 PM
I was content with the third version pattern. Maybe its just because I was cathing up on all the gens since the first one, so I've been grabbing the third version from Gen 2 on.

But I just hope we don't have to wait too long to find out what this means. I really want to pick up my Gen 5 game, but I am definitely waiting till "2" comes out.

Naykd
February 29th, 2012, 03:48 PM
2 = 2

what else do you think it means? 3? LOL

Trainer Evan
February 29th, 2012, 07:13 PM
I prefer my games to be stand alone adventures. The plot in Pokemon games should focus around YOUR journey, and your mission to beat the elite 4, or what-have-you. This is why N really pissed me off. Everytime I start up the game, I see that lame cut-scene of this guy that I hate. What happened to Emerald's awesome, and vague intro that implied a Open Grand adventure? By focusing too much on that "N" guy it takes away a lot from my own personal journey. And it isn't just N, its Cheren and Bianca too. The game is essentially forcing me to care and deal with these characters, contrary to earlier games when they were an occasional road-block. I wasn't a fan of cut-scenes either. It broke the visual style of the games too much. Pokemon is about imagination, when you add all that crap, you kind of lose that.

I would hope, that B&W Version 2 is an extended cut of B&W, but with a lot more added. Like a second region to go to after you completed Unova. I also hope they tone back on N a bit, after a while. And Pokemon better follow you around this time, Goddammit! >.<

Coreye713
February 29th, 2012, 09:33 PM
I believe this is not exactly a 3rd version, but more like a continuation of the storyline established in Black/White.

There are so many mysteries in Black/White that are not explained:
*Who are the Shadow Triad?
*Why does the Shadow Triad do absolutely nothing but escort you for a few seconds?
*Who are Concordia and Anthea?
*Why does Concordia and Anthea appear very briefly in the castle, and are considered important enough to get their own overworld sprites, and even appear in the intro, when you only see them once the entire game?
*Where is N?
*Where is Ghetsis?

I'm thinking the story isn't over yet, and we will see more in Black 2 & White 2.

I'd put money on this being the case.

Excellent post.

Hoenn
March 1st, 2012, 04:16 AM
It could mean that there are "2" third games instead of one, that would be a let down.

bwburke94
March 1st, 2012, 04:57 PM
That's my guess...

If they are in fact sequels, B2 would be a sequel to Black, W2 will be a sequel to White, and N's dragon will fuse with the God Stone to become Black/White Kyurem. Reasonable?