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Bluerang1
February 25th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Ok so these things have only just been announced but are you still expecting or do you want one final game that ties in both storylines? We've always got that in the past Pokemon games so do you feel slightly cheated out of it and being persuaded to purchase both games? Do you see this as just a money scheme or do you welcome the new changes?

I'm a bit of both but I definitely want a 5th game.

I'm thinking these are filler games for something bigger.... >_>

Blue
February 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
It's just going too far if they make another, would it be Gray 3? I think these will be the last we see of Unova and maybe of Gen V.. although we've got all of 2013 for a new game sooo....

Cello
February 25th, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nooooooo, nonono, no way. I definitely wouldn't want to see a 5th.
Instead of Gray, we got sequels, which I think is far better. But that's just my opinion of course. :P

EDIT: Ahaha, I just got the title! I see what you did there.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2012, 06:23 PM
It's possible...but Unova would get a whole lot more boring...
Though in Tao's belief they mention how there was one (the unseen original dragon) then there was two (Kyurem formes) and the there was three (the trio split)... so it's possible...

Kaori
February 25th, 2012, 06:26 PM
Two sequels are enough. I will be sick of Unova if they make another. If anything, the last thing that should be made for this generation are RS remakes.

Oryx
February 25th, 2012, 06:35 PM
I want a fifth game but I don't expect one, tbh. Instead of tying up loose ends in a third game, I'm guessing they're doing that with a sequel, and I highly doubt they'll go with five games in one region so close together, since they do have 5 games in Kanto/Johto now with the remakes haha.

Forever
February 25th, 2012, 06:37 PM
I'd want another game after R/S remakes. Yes I'm greedy. Yes I love Unova. No I wouldn't get sick of Unova, lol.

Seriously Black and White are the best games ever, and if B/W 2 follows that then really, BRING ON A FIFTH UNOVA GAME. plzplzplzplz. But yeah only after R/S remakes since ending the generation on Unova would be nice.

YAY TOUJOURS WANTING ONE TOO YOU'RE AWESOME.

Bluerang1
February 25th, 2012, 06:41 PM
I'd want another game after R/S remakes. Yes I'm greedy. Yes I love Unova. No I wouldn't get sick of Unova, lol.

Seriously Black and White are the best games ever, and if B/W 2 follows that then really, BRING ON A FIFTH UNOVA GAME. plzplzplzplz. But yeah only after R/S remakes since ending the generation on Unova would be nice.

YAY TOUJOURS WANTING ONE TOO YOU'RE AWESOME.

Ok all of this. Loving Toujors and Forever right now haha.

But good point, a 5th yer "3rd" game after the RS remakes like the 3rd Gen's pattern. And we get Unova in full 3D :D... It's might be the final Pokemon game.

Again, supports these sequels as just being filler games. Much needed filler games.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2012, 06:46 PM
These wouldn't be filler games, they will be chain games linking the first two to the last.
If they must make a fifth one than make it after RS remakes...Unova needs a break...

Guy
February 25th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Asking for a "Grey" after the original "Black and White" titles and now "Black and White 2" is just milking the cow dry if you ask me. With these potential sequels, you can have not only a new story within Unova, but also the enhanced features, extras, and the tied up story lines that you'd expect in a third game. It's a complete package and more with "Black and White 2."

For me, "Black and White" has already been a forgettable and disappointing generation, that the idea of sequels are exciting enough for me that I really don't need another game based in Unova after this. Give us the RSE remakes next year (please!), and wrap up the fifth generation altogether.

In short, a fifth game set in the same region, with the same Pokémon, and very little plot change afterward is just overkill for one generation. Bring on the RSE remakes after these sequels, have it wrap up the Fifth Generation games and move onto the next generation set for the 3DS after.

Blue
February 25th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Yeah, it would be way too much Unova... three appearances in a space of 3 years?

Cello
February 25th, 2012, 07:02 PM
Asking for a "Grey" after the original "Black and White" titles and now "Black and White 2" is just milking the cow dry if you ask me. With these potential sequels, you can have not only a new story within Unova, but also the enhanced features, extras, and the tied up story lines that you'd expect in a third game. It's a complete package and more with "Black and White 2."

For me, "Black and White" has already been a forgettable and disappointing generation, that the idea of sequels are exciting enough for me that I really don't need another game based in Unova after this. Give us the RSE remakes next year (please!), and wrap up the fifth generation altogether.

In short, a fifth game set in the same region, with the same Pokémon, and very little plot change afterward is just overkill for one generation. Bring on the RSE remakes after these sequels, have it wrap up the Fifth Generation games and move onto the next generation set for the 3DS after.

I completely agree with this. I was already dreading the possibility of Gray. The fact that these are sequels and not B/W with a few enhancements makes it the best possible way to wrap up Unova.

Make some R/S/E remakes and lets get cracking on some Gen 6! :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Yes, a fifth version would be overkill...I'm ready for to say gye to unova and to say hi to the remakes and gen VI (next) now.

何贤豪
February 25th, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oh, no way...I'll stay with two new games.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
February 26th, 2012, 12:39 AM
My wallet says no. My experience with B/W says be leery of anything that takes place using 5th gen mechanics. I don't know if I'll be even getting the "2" series of games, let alone another game afterwards. But who knows? if the "2" games turn out to offset/eliminate most of my gripes with B/W, and impress me somehow, I might be inclined to go against my wallet and give it a try.

Nepse
February 26th, 2012, 12:46 AM
Well, if BW2 turns out to be a sequel, then the 5th game is the third part of the Unova series (a sequel to the sequel), I would have to buy it. Considering BW2's plot ends in a cliffhanger.

Blue
February 26th, 2012, 05:08 AM
I'm just wondering if they include Hoenn in the storyline then these are the last games on Gen V or at least that rules out the remakes and then in 2013 one more game which would be a third game to BW2, that would be ridiculous.

The Author
February 27th, 2012, 09:18 AM
I don't see them making a 5th game. If they do, it'd be a bit overboard.

But, looking at the facts, Black and White were based off of Yin and Yang. You can't fuse those together, which is why I think that there will be no fifth game.

Naykd
February 28th, 2012, 12:59 PM
Just cause it says on Serebii, a site that posts rumors as well as speculations, doesn't mean that is the entire case. We know they are the Successors of Pokemon Black and Pokemon White, but that is ALL we know FOR A FACT. Masuda did not say they were sequels He just said they were new games coming out.

They can very well be remastered games with the two new Kyurems added into the game.

They could be the "third" Game split into two games.

They could be Generation 6, although less likely due to them not declaring it as the 6th Generation. (which means other than the two Kyurems No new Pokemon hopefully)

I don't think B/W 2 are the "third" games.

There will be a third game after B/W 2

Blue
February 28th, 2012, 01:21 PM
IMO if BW2 got a third game that would be taking it too far, the conclusion of all this Ghetsis/N/Plasma/Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem scenario should conclude in these games and then they should move on to the next games weather that be RS remakes assuming Hoenn doesn't depute in B2W2.

The Author
February 28th, 2012, 01:33 PM
IMO if BW2 got a third game that would be taking it too far, the conclusion of all this Ghetsis/N/Plasma/Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem scenario should conclude in these games and then they should move on to the next games weather that be RS remakes assuming Hoenn doesn't depute in B2W2.

Yes, I entirely agree.
GameFreak's too smart to take it too far. They don't want Pokémon to go down the same path as Yu-Gi-Oh. :P
However, you never know what they might do. I mean, B2/W2 were a bit unexpected, right?

Mr. Magius
February 28th, 2012, 04:42 PM
So, if these are sequels, will THEY get a third instalment? Or is Game Freak dropping that idea altogether?

Cassino
February 28th, 2012, 05:54 PM
There is nothing meaningful to 'tie in', nor ever was there in any generation, only frivilous version differences.

Bluerang1
March 13th, 2012, 04:25 PM
B2W2 have been announced to be a new adventure. I feel BW were like a beta game. So maybe Grey will tie up B2W2?

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
March 13th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Well, we could potentially be looking at six Unova games this generation too... perhaps a "Gray" as an enhanced B/W, and a "Gray 2" as an enhanced B2/W2. Assuming that GameFreak tries to milk Unova that far, that is. Who knows what those crafty developers are thinking... I think whether any sort of "Gray" comes out is going to be largely dependent on how B2/W2 are received and whether people are sick of seeing Unova after these games. If the gamers still want more games set there, then Gray, or even Gray 2 might be in the future. But if Unova's worn out its welcome with the new games, then the chances are slim.

rhycochet
March 14th, 2012, 12:36 AM
indifferent...but i'd really much rather see a new generation instead...curiosity always kills :D

i wouldn't mind a 3DS version of pokemon stadium/coliseum/battle revolution either...matter of fact.

Forever
March 14th, 2012, 01:24 AM
A post in another thread made me realise this.

So basically there was an interview back about a year ago where it was said that there wouldn't be a third game by Mana Ibe. Technically that's right, because if Masuda just said there wouldn't NOT be another version and that other person said that there won't be third game, then that means Masuda is technically correct, and so is Mana Ibe, and we may not get the third/fifth game. I hope that isn't true though. :(

But yeah, look at the wording... technically that does mean no third game. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_dismisses_%22No_third_version%22_speculation)

Mr. Magius
March 14th, 2012, 08:53 PM
Definitely won't happen... that will just dragon on the generation for too long.

I wouldn't mind, though.

voicerocker
March 14th, 2012, 09:13 PM
There's no need for a "Pokemon Gray". B/W 2 will do the same thing that Platinum did, but even better. We get 2 games, an extended story, and 2 new forms for a Pokemon! This was a great and unexpected move from GF and I'm glad to see them mix it up a little. People have been complaining for years that Pokemon was the same old thing over and over again, but they've proved they aren't out of ideas!

I also don't think we'll see remakes of Ruby and Sapphire. The 3rd generation can still be imported into 4th gen. games and then into 5th gen. games. Plus, Groudon and Kyogre were in HG/SS. There's no need for a R/S/E remake, at least right now. Also, we shouldn't rush the generations. Everyone seems to be disappointed in Gen. 5 and saying they want Gen. 6. If Gen. 5 disappointed you, do you really think you'll enjoy Gen. 6? Chances are, people will do the same thing for Gen. 6, and claim they want Gen. 7. Slow down and enjoy B/W 2 before you go into the next generation.

Cello
March 14th, 2012, 09:29 PM
A post in another thread made me realise this.

So basically there was an interview back about a year ago where it was said that there wouldn't be a third game by Mana Ibe. Technically that's right, because if Masuda just said there wouldn't NOT be another version and that other person said that there won't be third game, then that means Masuda is technically correct, and so is Mana Ibe, and we may not get the third/fifth game. I hope that isn't true though. :(

But yeah, look at the wording... technically that does mean no third game. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_dismisses_%22No_third_version%22_speculation)

Oh wow, I completely and totally forgot about that interview. So he was telling the truth after all!
It's funny that the majority of Pokemon fans shrugged off that statement as we're all so used to that particular game rotation.
Also shows how unexpected sequels were. We thought it was either a 3rd version or nothing at all. :P

Anyways, I agree with the majority of everyone else in this thread. A 5th game is completely unnecessary. As said, it would make the 5th generation last far too long.

Forever
April 12th, 2012, 01:40 AM
Not quite dead yet!

I figured I might as well post my thoughts based on the screenshots since I had nowhere else to post (FINALLY MORE POSITIVE THOUGHTS).

[17:31:25] <@ForeverAfraid> ...wait hang on
[17:31:27] <FlameJuli> On the picture to the right, just under the map, it has that fenced area... thats what it would be
[17:31:34] <@ForeverAfraid> if this IS opposites sorta and set after
[17:31:39] <@ForeverAfraid> we're getting a third game imo
[17:31:47] <@ForeverAfraid> *fifth
[17:32:07] <@ForeverAfraid> they need something to be the ying to its yang
[17:32:33] <@ForeverAfraid> since you cover half of your journey and half of the others
[17:32:41] <@ForeverAfraid> so you'll need like a way to tie them in together i think
[17:32:48] <@ForeverAfraid> as in combine the two journies/stories
[17:32:54] <@ForeverAfraid> FIFTH GAME YES

In other words, unless you meet the B/W protagonists in B2W2, then chances are there will be a fifth game where they do come together tbh (with a completely redesigned region - set 4 years after everything, aka ties up where everyone's at now). Maybe after R/S remakes, possibly. :3; Just seems weird they're going with a new character set tbh.

gunnerpow7
April 12th, 2012, 01:46 AM
Not quite dead yet!

I figured I might as well post my thoughts based on the screenshots since I had nowhere else to post (FINALLY MORE POSITIVE THOUGHTS).

[17:31:25] <@ForeverAfraid> ...wait hang on
[17:31:27] <FlameJuli> On the picture to the right, just under the map, it has that fenced area... thats what it would be
[17:31:34] <@ForeverAfraid> if this IS opposites sorta and set after
[17:31:39] <@ForeverAfraid> we're getting a third game imo
[17:31:47] <@ForeverAfraid> *fifth
[17:32:07] <@ForeverAfraid> they need something to be the ying to its yang
[17:32:33] <@ForeverAfraid> since you cover half of your journey and half of the others
[17:32:41] <@ForeverAfraid> so you'll need like a way to tie them in together i think
[17:32:48] <@ForeverAfraid> as in combine the two journies/stories
[17:32:54] <@ForeverAfraid> FIFTH GAME YES

In other words, unless you meet the B/W protagonists in B2W2, then chances are there will be a fifth game where they do come together tbh (with a completely redesigned region - set 4 years after everything, aka ties up where everyone's at now). Maybe after R/S remakes, possibly. :3; Just seems weird they're going with a new character set tbh.

Well, that is kinda true but the chances are that the B/W protagonists meets the B2/W2 protagonists is still very high. Right now, for me, the chances of having a fifth game is quite low...

Comerion
April 12th, 2012, 05:45 AM
yeah definitely 2 sequels in one, I think nintendo are trolling us to by them both by making virtually the same game with a different name lol XD

Mr Cat Dog
May 9th, 2012, 05:27 AM
Is is just me, or is it a teensy weensy bit presumptuous to be thinking about any fifth game/linking game/any other game at this early stage? I kinda want to wait until BW2 come out before making any type of speculation or hypothesizing about the future. However, for the purposes of discussion, I'll wildly speculate that BW2 will be a fitting conclusion to the Unova games so a fifth game wouldn't be necessary. If a newer game were released, I imagine it'd have to overcome my completely unfounded opinion that Game Freak would be doing it for the money alone and not for the fans.

But that's just wiiiiiiiild speculation on my part.