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Gonzo
March 4th, 2012, 08:40 AM
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♠ The Art of RNG ♠

Welcome to the Art of RNG! Here we will discuss RNG abuse, post our most recent RNG abuses, and complete challenges and then show off our results. If you need actual help with RNG abuse, please review the RNG Guides and feel free to ask any questions here. We would like to encourage you to try on your own first, though, but don't be afraid to ask for help if you are just plain lost. We're here to help and spread the joy of RNG abuse to anyone interested.

Rules
~ If you're asking for help,
- Provide which version of RNG Reporter (or PPRNG for Macs) you're using.
- Provide which version Pokemon game you're playing.
- What are you trying to capture or hatch? What were your results? Explain what you're doing.
- What is your target seed and frame? How are you verifying your seed or frame? If you can provide screenshots of what you're seeing/doing in RNG Reporter, please do so.
- Please don't get frustrated if you're continuously failing. Your first RNG attempts may take several hours or even days. Be polite to those trying to help you.

~ If you're commenting on others' RNG abuses,
- Please don't say "I'll trade ya for that!" or whatever. :(

~ If you're posting your own RNG abuses (not for the challenges),
- Add to the conversation. Don't just post your new Pokemon and nothing else.

RNG Guides
[alink id="RNG Guide"]Trade Corner's Black/White RNG Guide[/alink id]
Everstone's DPPt/HGSS RNG Guide (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3467154)


Notable RNG Abusers

Mac: Owner & Founder Sent to therapy for hitting delay and abusing the RNG
Gonz0: Co-Owner Ace of Spades of RNG Abuse
TwilightBlade: Co-Owner
Rednael: Nub who completed ten challenges
Vaporeon7
Sydian: Hero of Time

Current Discussion Topic

How did you discover RNG? Did someone introduce it to you, did you find it by accident (more or less), or was there some other way? Share your experience!

Judge's Choice

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Zheng'd! | Ludicolo (F) @ Life Orb http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/lifeorb.png
OT: Tom | ID: 08716
Modest | Swift Swim
IVs: 31/0/31/31/31/31
EVs: 36 HP | 252 SpA | 220 Speed
Moveset: Hydro Pump | Giga Drain | Ice Beam | Protect

Chosen by deku: I like a lot about how this Pokemon helped TheGr8 snatch victory from the jaws of defeat at VGC. I love how on the first team you used it on it wasn't much help, but you gave it a second chance on your new team and it managed to save you in a lot of battles. I like how you RNG abused it's IV's to still make it a viable Pokemon even when confused or in a Trick Room. I especially like how you chose for it to be female due to the use of Captivate and Attract by other players. Overall, I really like how every aspect of this Pokemon helped you win when you were stuck in a corner at the VGC.

Current Challenge

Challenge #24: Favoritism! RNG a Pokemon that is based on your favorite character from any media! (Video Game, Book, Movie, TV Series, Manga, etc...)



Completed by: Mac (Golett)

Expires: July 16, 2012 11:59 PM.

All challenges expire at 11:59 PM (UTC-4) of the fifth day.

Past Challenges

Past challenge winners are marked in bold red. Past challenge descriptions can be found when placing your mouse cursor over 'Challenge #'.


Challenge #1: johnny18 (Clefairy), Mac (Pikachu), earth boy (Bouffalant), Rednael (Lileep), LegendaryFSK (Growlithe), AlexOzzyCake (Drifblim), greg0915 (Tentacool), loucas (Frillish), miakalina (Pearl ID), Gonzo (Tynamo)

Challenge #2: johnny18 (Arbok), Mac (Yanma), earth boy (Yamask), Rednael (Cacnea), loucas (Mewtwo), RingoH (Porygon), miakalina (Lickitung)

Challenge #3: Mac (Zubat), AlexOzzyCake (Sneasel), Rednael (Mantyke), TwilightBlade (Chansey), Keiran777 (Duskull), loucas (Golbat), twistedpuppy (Horsea), LegendaryFSK (Snorlax), RingoH (Pichu)

Challenge #4: Rednael (Flareon), twistedpuppy (Houndour), LegendaryFSK (Chimchar), Mac (Torchic), TwilightBlade (Volcarona), Keiran777 (Ponyta), AlexOzzyCake (Chimchar), Gonz0 (Darumaka), Vaporeon7 (Slugma), RingoH (Ponyta), loucas (Victini)

Challenge #5: LegendaryFSK (Teddiursa), Vaporeon7 (Poliwag), Rednael (Poliwag), Keiran777 (Spinda), RingoH (Slakoth), Mac (Bulbasaur), Gonz0 (Poliwhirl), Rainy Garden of Fire (Zubat), loucas (Pichu), Sydian (Mienfoo), twistedpuppy (Oddish)

Challenge #6: LegendaryFSK (Squirtle), AlexOzzyCake (Lillipup), Rainy Garden of Fire (Piplup), Rednael (Dwebble), Mac (Chinchou), Vaporeon7 (Mareep), Gonz0 (Musharna), Sydian (Eevee), TwilightBlade (Shaymin)

Challenge #7: Rainy Garden of Fire (Starly), Rednael (Natu), Mac (Articuno), Sydian (Swablu), loucas (Archen), Feralize (Murkrow), LegendaryFSK (Rufflet), Vaporeon7 (Wingull), Gonz0 (Doduo), TwilightBlade (Tranquil)

Challenge #8:: Mac (Thundurus), Rednael (Volbeat/Illumise), LegendaryFSK (Cottonee), Vaporeon7 (Electrike), Gonz0 (Furret), TwilightBlade (Darkrai), Sydian (Cottonee)

Challenge #9:: Mac (Vulpix), Vaporeon7 (Shellder), Sydian (Bibarel), TwilightBlade (Azelf), Rednael (Gastrodon), CrazyMrHans (Magikarp), Gonz0 (Scyther)

Challenge #10: Mac (Munchlax), Rednael (Aron), AlexOzzyCake (Scolipede), Gonz0 (Heatran), Vaporeon7 (Solrock), CrazyMrHans (Onix), BZW Golem (Munchlax), Sydian (Steelix)

Challenge #11: CrazyMrHans (Gyarados), Sydian (Umbreon), Vaporeon7 (Vaporeon), Rednael (Chinchou), Mac (Porygon2), LegendaryFSK (Gastly), Gonz0 (Chansey), Loucas (Venonat), TheGr8 (Growlithe)

Challenge #12: Rednael (Absol), LegendaryFSK (Volcarona), Keiran777 (Seel), Mac (Mareep), Vaporeon7 (Spheal), CrazyMrHans (Litwick), Gonz0 (Swablu), Archiebald (Whimsicott), Sydian (Ninetales), Luvdisc (TheGr8)

Challenge #13: Keiran777 (Skorupi), Rednael (Spinarak), Vaporeon7 (Shellos), Mac (Aron), TheGr8 (Crawdaunt), Archiebald (Relicanth), Sydian (Ducklett), Gonzo (Tangela)

Challenge #14: Rednael (Rotom), TwilightBlade (Maractus), Mac (Politoed), Vaporeon7 (Swablu), Archiebald (Lilligant), Sydian (Politoed), Keiran777 (Volbeat), Gonz0 (Panpour) TheGr8 (Cherrim), johnny18 (Gothita)

Challenge #15: Sydian (Ludicolo), Jolteon* (Pidgeot), Mac (Buizel), Vaporeon7 (Meowth), Keiran777 (Shuckle), Gonz0 (Lilligant), LegendaryFSK (Scraggy), Rednael (Rotom)

Challenge #16: Rednael (Togekiss), Mac (Zapdos), Sydian (Zebstrika), Vaporeon7 (Dunsparce), Gonz0 (Spiritomb), TwilightBlade (Stunfisk), AlexOzzyCake (Amoonguss)

Challenge #17: Rednael (Nidoqueen), Sydian (Arcanine), Luke (Kangaskhan), LittleSky (Blissey), Vaporeon7 (Alomomola), Mac (Marowak), TwilightBlade (Vespiquen)

Challenge #18: LegendaryFSK (Cryogonal), LittleSky (Lucario), Mac (Suicune), Gonz0 (Platinum ID, OT: ♠ゴンゾ♠), Willio (Uxie), Sydian (Ditto), Vaporeon7 (Castform), TwilightBlade (Gardevoir)

Challenge #19: LittleSky (Tropius), Luke (Carracosta), AngelZodiac (Manaphy), Vaporeon7 (Honchkrow), TwilightBlade (Wingull), Mac (Garbodor), Gonz0 (Articuno), twistedpuppy (Politoed)

Challenge #20: LittleSky (Petilil), evo21 (Eevee), Mac (Honchkrow), Gonz0 (Drilbur/Excadrill team), Rednael (Ninetales)

Challenge #21 jerichob10 (Pichu), LittleSky (Blastoise), Mac (Marill), Crescend (Mareep), Vaporeon7 (Tangela)

Challenge #22: Crescend (Lucario), Iloveeevee (Larvitar), deku (Gallade), TwilightBlade (Sandshrew), Mac (Thundurus), The Shiny Umbreon in the Corner (Riolu), Gonz0 (Woobat)

Challenge #23: NavySealGR (Garchomp), Mac (Latios), Gonz0 (Feebas -> Milotic), TheGr8 (Ludicolo), TwilightBlade (Riolu -> Lucario), vaporeon7 (Clamperl -> Gorebyss)

Lilith
March 4th, 2012, 08:47 AM
[a id]RNG Guide[/a id]
Pokémon Black/White RNG Guide

[a id]toprng[/a id]Introduction It is said that every Pokémon you encounter along your journey of ~epic proportions~ is unique. Your starter Pokémon is "randomly" adamant, female, and likes to run. As it turns out, these events are determined by pseudo random number generators, or the output of a class of mathematical formulas. The word pseudo implies that your game is not really random; the randomness is fake, an illusion. In fact, a very particular pattern exists. With proper knowledge and execution, one can predict when and where shiny, flawless, and other desirable Pokémon exist. This guide will help you learn how to abuse your game's pseudo RNG.
[a id]prereq[/a id]Pre-requisites for Standard Seed Abuse— Pokémon Black or Pokémon White
— RNG Reporter (download latest version 9.95 here (http://j.mp/zjoiIX))
— Nintendo DS Original or Lite is recommended. DSi/3DS will work but have some key differences (click here to read these differences)
— IV Calculator (click to use Metalkid's IV Calculator (http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/IV.aspx))
— Your Secret ID (SID), if you desire shiny Pokémon. You can find your SID by using Pokécheck.
— Do NOT use Action Replay, flashcart, or emulator. This guide will not discuss how to RNG abuse while using these devices. You will get weird results.
— MAC Address
— Open Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection Settings from either the Main Menu or through the C-Gear.
— Click the orange box, Options. Click the pink box, System Information.
— Copy the entire MAC Address (ignore the hyphens). Write it down and/or store it somewhere easily accessible (e.g. notepad, word, forum post).
— Click for image of how to obtain MAC Address from Nintendo Wi-Fi Settings (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12206225/RNG/dmemaclocation.png) — Helpful Pokémon
— Chattering Chatot: Obtain a Chatot (not found in Black/White, but can be obtained in Dream World's Windswept Sky, in 4th Gen, or over Wi-Fi). Teach Chatot the move Chatter. Click on Chatter as if it were an HM. Teach Chatot any custom cry by using your DS microphone. Keep Chatot in your party; if you deposit it, it will forget its custom chatter, so you will have to customize its cry again. *Tip* Get 2 Chatot. You can quickly advance the frame by flipping back and forth between two Chatot.
— Sweet Scenter: Obtain any Pokémon knowing the move Sweet Scent (Foongus level 25; Maractus level 3).
— Synchronizer: Obtain Pokémon with desirable natures (Timid, Jolly, etc) having the ability Synchronize (Munna, Elgyem).
— Quick Egg Hatcher: Obtain a Pokémon with ability Flame Body (Magby, Slugma, Litwick, Larvesta). When in your party, it reduces the amount of steps required to hatch an egg.
— Flier: Obtain any Pokémon knowing HM Fly (Volcarona has Flame Body and can Fly).
— Flawless Parents: Obtain any Ditto and/or parent Pokémon with 30-31 IVs in desirable stats.

[a id]general[/a id]General Summary of Information
This section will become more useful after you attempt RNG abuse, so you may skip it for now but refer back to it later. Also, if you get confused by certain terminology when doing the Steps, refer back to this general section too!

Definitions— Seed: The number which is fed to the random number generator when the game starts. This number is created by a combination of the time and date the game started, the MAC Address, Keypress, and other Encryption Variables.
— IV: This is a Pokémon's individual values created when one first encounters or receives a Pokémon. The IVs are responsible for determining a Pokémon's characteristic, Hidden Power, and variation of stats. IVs range from 0 to 31, where IVs of 30 and 31 are most desired. Flawless Pokémon usually have 5 or 6 stats with IVs of 31. Abusing the IVs is known as Mersenne Twister RNG.
— PID: This is a Pokémon's personality value created when one first encounters or receives a Pokémon. The PID is responsible for determining a Pokémon's gender, ability, and shininess. The PID is also responsible for determining Spinda's spots, Unown's letter, and whether Wurmple evolves into a Beautifly or Dustox. Abusing the PID is known as PIDRNG.
— Target Time: A date and time you are trying to hit in order to get your desired result. This is the current date and time of your DS system. The target time has nothing to do with your save file's gameplay time.
— Target Date: A date you are trying to hit in order to get your desired result. No month or year is "better" or "luckier" than others but it doesn't hurt to search for shiny flawless spreads in multiple months throughout many years.
— Initial / Starting Frame: This is the initial PIDRNG Frame for a particular seed. Every seed has its own initial frame. The initial frame ranges from 38 to 60. You use RNG Reporter's 'Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame' button to find your seed's initial frame.
— Target Frame: A frame number you are trying to hit in order to get a desired result. This usually refers to the PIDRNG Frame.
— Shifted Frame: This is the initial PIDRNG Frame for a particular seed PLUS whatever PID Frame advancements wandering (moving) trainers have done. Not every area has a Shifted Frame. Areas with no wandering trainers (e.g. Lostlorn Forest) and areas with trainers moving in a looping pattern (e.g. Route 9) will not give you a Shifted Frame. If your Shifted Frame is greater than your Target Frame, either re-save and try to get a lower Shifted Frame or don't use the Seed.
— NPCs: Non-player character; also known as wandering trainers. *Tip* When you enter a new route/town, you reset the NPCs. For example, from Striaton City, bike quickly into Route 3 and then save right in front of the Daycare Man holding the egg. Then, power off and do your Egg abusing. This gives you a better chance of the NPCs not moving as you get to the game to collect the egg.
— Encounter Slots: Encounter Slots are values that determine what Pokémon will appear depending on the PIDRNG frame on which you encounter it. Encounter Slots range from 0 to 11. They are different for each area. Certain Pokémon appear on certain Encounter Slots. For example, Joltik appears on Slot 0. This information is available under RNG Reporter's 5th Gen tools tab. Click to see: White (http://eggmove.com/encounterwhite.html) | Black (http://eggmove.com/encounterblack.html)
Different Pokémon to RNG abuse listed from least difficult to most difficult to do— Stationary Pokémon (Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyurem, Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Volcarona)
— Gift Pokémon (Starters, Fossils, Magikarp, Dreamyard Monkey Trio; Larvesta Egg too but it has its own method)
— Wondercard Pokémon (Victini)
— Wild Pokémon in areas without moving NPCs using Encounter Slots
— Wild Pokémon in areas with moving NPCs using Encounter Slots
— Egg Abuse
— Swirling Dust / Bubbling Water Spot (Surf/Fish)
— White Forest Abuse (nonshiny and Synchronize)
— Roamer IV and Nature Abuse (nonshiny)
— C-Gear abuse for Entralink Pokémon from the Dream World
— Roamer IV/Nature Shiny Abuse in Snow or Rain
RNG Knowledge— Standard Seed Abuse: This method of RNG abuse requires precision down to the second. These seeds are determined the second you start your game from the DS menu. They are very easy to hit.
— Initial Frame for IVs— For wild and stationary Pokémon, the initial frame will be 1.
— For hatched Pokémon, the initial frame will be 8.
— For roaming Pokémon, the initial frame will be 1 but slightly different. The speed IV will be put before the SpAtk IV, shifting them to the right.
— RNG Reporter takes into account these changes, so you don't have to worry much about this. — Advancing the IV Frame
— Moving 128 steps with # Pokémon in your party will advance the frame by # Pokémon
— Moving a Pokémon to your party from the PC Box (Withdraw/Move) will advance the frame by 7.
— Entering a battle will advance the frame by approximately 120 frames per second. Not recommended on your DS. — Initial Frame for PID
— The PID, or Personality Value, is responsible for a Pokémon's nature, ability, shiny color, and so on. Click for more details (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Personality_value).
— This will vary between 38 to 60 from seed to seed. Always use RNG Reporter to calculate the Initial PID Frame for you. — Advancing the PID Frame
— Chattering Chatot: After teaching Chatot a recorded Chatter by using your DS microphone, every time you view its summary screen, its custom cry will advance the frame by 1.
— Saving the game will advance the frame by 1.
— Walking in areas with wild Pokémon will advance the frame by 2.
— Turning in areas with wild Pokémon will advance the frame by 2.
— Wandering NPCs will randomly advance the frame. — Breeding Information
— Do NOT use Power Items. They are not supported and will give you weird results.
— Ditto is considered as the opposite gender of the other Pokémon.
— Ditto is considered as the female when breeding a genderless Pokémon.
— Nidoran and Illumise/Volbeat species are not determined by Gender Ratios listed. They will be listed separately.


[a id]parameters[/a id]Finding Your DS Parameters
Click on the thumbnails on the right for additional guidance!Images
Colors match!
Step 1— Obtain a Sweet Scenter. Have it in your party.
— Have a party of 5 or less Pokémon.
— Save your game in Victory Road. You will be catching a wild Pokémon very soon.
— Download and open the RNG Reporter.
— Click the DS Parameters Search button.Step 1http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4507/setupparametersstep1.th.png (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4507/setupparametersstep1.png)Step 2— Enter your game's version and language. Select the DS Type as DS Original/DS Lite (or DSi / 3DS if applicable).
— Enter your entire DS MAC Address (ignore the hyphens).
— Ensure that the Held Buttons are set to None.
— The remaining Seed Encryption variable ranges are the default. Step 2http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4375/setupparametersrightsid.th.png (http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4375/setupparametersrightsid.png)Step 3— The Date and Time is based on the DS's internal clock. For DS Original/Lite, use the clock shown on the menu to hit a time. For DSi/3DS, use an external clock (click for info).
— Choose any Target Date, Hour, Minute, but use 25 Seconds for simplicity reasons.
— In this example, my Target Time is July 20th, 6:13:25. I set my DS clock to July 20th, 6:13:00. Save DS options. Power off. Power on.
— From the DS Main Menu, at the moment the seconds hand clearly hits 25 seconds, click the A button to launch the Pokémon game.Step 3http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3371/setupparametersdate.th.png (http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3371/setupparametersdate.png)Step 4— Do NOT press any buttons until the white "Pokémon Company, Nintendo" message disappears. You can click A the moment you see the Gamefreak logo and opening cutscene. Load your save file.
— Do NOT launch the C-Gear. Use Sweet Scent immediately to enter a Pokémon battle. Catch that Pokémon.
— Use an IV Calculator to find the Pokémon's IV ranges.
— Input its IV ranges into RNG Reporter.Step 4http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9915/setupparametersivranges.th.png (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9915/setupparametersivranges.png)Step 5— Click the Search button. You should have 1 result. For DS Original/Lite and DSi, the Actual Second should be +1 the second you hit. For 3DS, the Actual Second should be +8 the second you hit.
— If you get 2 or more results, examine the Actual Seconds column. In this example, I clicked A at 25 seconds. I look at the result with 26 seconds. I ignore the second result of 33 seconds.
— Write down your Timer0 value. In this example, my Timer0 value is C7CStep 5http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1694/setupparameterssearchin.th.png (http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1694/setupparameterssearchin.png)Step 6— You will be repeating the process of catching a Pokémon again. Turn off the DS. Turn on the DS.
— While on the DS Main Menu, note the Date/Time. Aim to hit another Target Time.
— In this example, I want to hit a Target Time of July 20th, 6:17:25. Update this new Target Time in RNG Reporter. Erase the IV ranges.Step 6http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/939/setupparameterstrial2.th.png (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/939/setupparameterstrial2.png)Step 7— Hit that Target Time. Load the game. Sweet Scent a Pokémon. Catch it. Calculate IV Ranges. Enter the IV Ranges. Click Search.
— Note the Actual Second and Timer0 value again. Repeat this capture process 1-5 more tries until you find your most common Timer0 value.
— In this example, on my second try, I get Actual Seconds 26 and Timer0 Value C7C. On my third try, I get a Timer0 value of C7D. I'll be using C7C as it is my more common Timer0 Value. You CANNOT control your Timer0 Value.Step 7http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4390/setupparameterstrial2iv.th.png (http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4390/setupparameterstrial2iv.png)

[a id]troubleshooting[/a id]What the heck does all of this mean, blade???
— The basic 5th Generation RNG process is: By using your DS's unique parameters, the RNG Reporter will find suitable shiny/IV Target Spreads. You will attempt to hit the Target Time of this Target Spread.
— "Unique?" You MUST use the exact DS system, game file, and its parameters when you are searching for shiny/IV spreads. Changing your DS system or Pokémon version will give you errors. If you have multiple DS systems, they will have different parameters. However, you do not have to find your parameters again if you do a new game.
— "My DS Parameters...." Keep your MAC Address and Timer0 values stored safely either in RNG Reporter, notepad/word, or a forum post/message.
— "Timer0 Values" They should be adjacent, or nearby. DS Original/Lite average Timer0 values in order: C7A, C7B, C7C, C7D, C7E, C7F, C80, C81, C82 and so on.
— "Held Buttons?" Known as Keypresses. More keypresses = More results = more time searching for spreads. You will have the option of searching target spreads with no held buttons and target spreads requiring 1, 2, and up to 3 button combinations. I like to search 1 or 2 Keypresses.
— [a id]Actual Second[/a id]"Target Time..?" Notice the differential of 1 second? When I had hit a Target Second of 25, I got an Actual Second of 26. This means that when you are attempting to hit Target Times, you will click the A button 1 second before your Target Time to make up for this 1 second delay (for 3DS, this will be 8 seconds).
— For example, some flawless spread is at October 12th, 15:26:58. I set my DS clock to 15:26:00 and will click A at 15:26:57. This allows me to hit 15:26:58.

I am not getting any results...
— Make sure that you are hitting the correct military time.
— Make sure that you are not holding any buttons when loading the Pokémon game. After clicking A, allow the white screen and Pokémon Company, Nintendo message to play. You may begin pressing any buttons as soon as the shooting stars / Gamefreak logo plays.
— You do not have to button mash and you should not be. Just hit the target time and normally enter the game world.
— Make sure that you are not turning on the C-Gear or activating Wi-Fi.
— Make sure that you were saved in an area with wild Pokémon (e.g. Victory Road).
— Make sure that you were saved with a prepared party (e.g. Sweet Scenter). Do NOT withdraw party members.
— Make sure you are not walking around. Use Sweet Scent ASAP.
— Make sure you are not attempting RNG abuse while charging the DS.
— Make sure you are using the same DS and Pokémon version you used to obtain your MAC address and DS Parameters.
— Check everything entered in RNG Reporter. The Pokémon version, the language, the MAC address.
— Widen your parameter search range and/or redo your parameter search.
— If all else fails, explain your procedure and problems.

[a id]dsi[/a id]I am using a DSi (XL) / 3DS...
— This guide is made where I use the original DS system. If you're using a DSi/3DS, you will find different parameters than those in the the Finding Your DS Parameters steps. Despite this change, the overall RNG abusing procedure is the same for any DS system. Be aware of this as you move on to the Capturing and Hatching steps below.
— [a id]clock[/a id]Unlike the DS Original/Lite, the DSi and 3DS do NOT have a clear seconds reading. You will have to synchronize your system's clock with an external clock with a clear seconds reading (e.g. your computer's clock). *Tip* Change DSi/3DS time when your computer clock hits :00 seconds. Then, follow your computer clock. This is an easy way to synchronize clocks but also not mess up your computer's time by much.
— Here are average parameters to help you better judge if you are on the right path. Remember, use the parameters YOU find. Big thanks to chiizu (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3976513&postcount=824) for this research.
— Actual Second— DSi: takes 1 second to load. Therefore, you need to start 1 second ahead of your target time. Note that some may find actual seconds of 2 or 3. Find your own actual second.
— DSi XL: When the external clock is 00 Seconds and you hit SET, the clock doesn't actually SET it for 1-2 seconds. You should leave an extra minute to observe the 00 rollover on the DSi XL to make sure you hit the seed properly.
— 3DS: takes 8 seconds to load. Therefore, you need to start 8 seconds ahead of your target time. — Parameters
— JP Black on JP DSi: Timer0: 1237, 1238 || VCount: 8C || VFrame: 9
— JP White on JP DSi and JP 3DS: Timer0: 1232, 1233, 1234 || VCount: 8C || VFrame: 9
— EN White on JP DSi: Timer0: 125F, 1260 || VCount: 8D || VFrame: 8
— EN White on US DSi: Timer0: 12BB || VCount: 90 || VFrame: 8
— EN White (different cartridge) on EU 3DS: Timer0: 12BB || VCount: 90 || VFrame: 8
— EN Black on US DSi: Timer0: 123C || VCount: 8C || VFrame: 8

[a id]capture[/a id]Capturing Flawless Shiny Pokémon
Click on the thumbnails on the right for additional guidance!Images
Colors match!Step 1— If you just found your DS Parameters, you can click on the "Use Result in Time Finder" button. If not, retrieve your DS Parameters from wherever you saved them.
— Enter your entire MAC Address, Version+language, and DS Type. Don't check Soft Reset.
— Choose your preference for the Keypresses. Click the bubble if your L/R buttons don't work.
— If you found one Timer0 value, input that in twice.
— If you found two Timer0 values, input your Timer0 Minimum and Timer0 Maximum.
— The other settings should be the default, which vary from person to person.
— Use the DS parameters YOU found. Don't necessarily use mine.Step 1http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3783/93newcaptureshinystep1.th.png (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3783/93newcaptureshinystep1.png)Step 2— Go to Capture tab. Customize Year and Month. Make Min/Max Frame as 1.
— Change Method to Gen 5 IVs (Standard Seed) and Encounter Type as Wild Pokémon. Leave Encounter Slot as Any.
— Customize IV ranges.
— Note: If you are attempting to catch a shiny flawless Stationary legend (Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Kyurem, Volcarona), you should use Encounter Type Stationary Pokémon instead of Wild Pokémon. Step 2http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6386/93newcaptureshinystep2.th.png (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6386/93newcaptureshinystep2.png)Step 3— If your desired Pokémon can have 2 abilities, specify Ability. Use RNG Reporter's built in Pokédex (on a tab on the main menu) to determine if an Ability is 0 or 1.
— You may specify Nature. Do use a Synchronized Nature of some sort. Synchonizing a nature will greatly improve your odds of finding a good nature shiny. You may check this box: Synchronize Frames Only. Based on my experiences, the Any / Synch / Only setup will net me plenty of available shiny spreads.
— Enter ID/SID. Check the box Search for Nearby Shiny Frame. Enter 300 as Max Shiny Offset. Check the box Use True Minimum Frame. Step 3http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/672/93newcaptureshinystep3.th.png (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/672/93newcaptureshinystep3.png)Step 4— Click Generate. You may have to wait several moments until RNG Reporter finds results. If you are very specific, this search can last for several hours
— Examine the Nearby Shiny column. The higher the nearby shiny frame, the more time it will take to advance to it. I prefer shiny frames under 150, but I am willing to go up to 300.
— Examine the Encounter Slot column. Certain shiny spreads will only have you encounter certain Pokémon. To determine what Pokémon appears on what Encounter Slot, click to see the tables, which are also available from RNG Reporter's main window in the 5th Gen Tools tab: Pokémon White Encounter Slots (http://www.eggmove.com/encounterwhite.html) | Black Encounter Slots (http://www.eggmove.com/encounterblack.html).
Step 4http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1690/93newcaptureshinystep4.th.png (http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1690/93newcaptureshinystep4.png)Step 5— Examine the Date/Time Column. A good second is between 15 to 59. Any second between 0-14 is possible to hit, but time consuming (you have to adjust your DS clock to a whole minute before the Target Time, wait for it to roll over a minute, and then press A 1 second before your Target Second).
— Examine the Keypress column. If you searched for 1, 2, or 3 Keypresses, remember to simultaneously press and hold ALL these buttons properly. Although using No Keypress is easier, you will find fewer available spreads.
— Pick a good seed you can work with. Highlight its row, right click, and click Copy Seed to Clipboard.Step 5http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9577/93newcaptureshinystep5.th.png (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9577/93newcaptureshinystep5.png)Step 6— Minimize the Time Finder window. Return to the main window of RNG Reporter.
— From the dropdown menu, change Method to Gen 5 PIDRNG. Change Encounter Type to Wild Pokémon. Enter your Synch Nature. Enter your ID and SID
— Change Max Results to 300. Copy Paste your Full Seed into Seed(Hex).
— If your Tornadus/Thundurus is roaming the Unova region, check the box. Click Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame. It will update the Starting Frame box. Step 6http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/540/93newcaptureshinystep6.th.png (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/540/93newcaptureshinystep6.png)Step 7— Click Generate. You can scroll down the generated table until you see and verify that your shiny frame is on this seed (a !!! indicates shiny).
— Save in the location of your desired target with a prepared party of 5 Pokémon or less: Synchronizer in the front, Chattering Chatot, Sweet Scenter, and ideally something to easily capture the target with (e.g. False Swipe or Sleep inducing moves).
— Get your Seed's Date, Time, and any Keypresses (if you have any). These next steps will be a lot like finding your DS Parameters. Do click on the image for this step to see how I've gathered everything from Time Finder (steps 4 and 5) for the Seed I picked, HP Fire. Step 7http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6624/93newcaptureshinystep7.th.png (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6624/93newcaptureshinystep7.png)Step 8— In this example, my Target Date is Dec. 4th, 2011. My Target Time is 13:55:14. I have Keypresses Select and Left.
— Change the DS Clock to Seed's Target Date /Time. In this example, I change the date to Dec. 2 and 13:55:00
— In this example, my Target Second is 14. If you recall how we found a differential of 1 second, I will be pressing A at the DS main menu at this moment: 13:55:13, or the moment the DS clock's second hand hits 13 seconds. You do a similar process.
— As soon as you press A, press and hold all of your Keypress buttons, if your seed requires them. Hold them until you get completely past the until the white "Pokémon Company, Nintendo" message. If you don't have Keypresses, press nothing until after this white message. Continue your file. Do NOT launch C-Gear. Step 8http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6624/93newcaptureshinystep7.th.png (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6624/93newcaptureshinystep7.png)Step 9— Upon entering the game world, immediately press X to pause and access the menu. Open your party. Use Sweet Scent. Catch that Pokémon. Check its IVs with an IV Calculator. If the IVs match that of your Target Frame (in this example, mine should match HP Fire), look for a match on the table.
— Consider looking at the Pokémon's nature, gender, ability, and species (encounter slots). The Pokémon should be 1-10 frames within your Starting Frame.
— If the Pokémon's IVs did not match, reset and retry hitting your Target Time.
— Do NOT save during this process. Step 9http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9218/93newcaptureshinystep9.th.png (http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9218/93newcaptureshinystep9.png)Step 10— If you find a match, note what frame number it is on. This is the Shifted Frame. Wandering trainers on the route have slightly shifted your PID Frame.
— Note: If you were in an area where there were no trainers, such as Lostlorn Forest, then you will not have a Shifted Frame. Your match would be the Starting Frame, assuming you hit your Seed / got your desired IVs.
— Target Frame minus Shifted Frame. In this example, I caught a Quirky Pokémon, which is Frame 47. I need to advance to Frame 225. Frame 225 - Frame 47 = 178 Chatter Advancements. Step 10http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9218/93newcaptureshinystep9.th.png (http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9218/93newcaptureshinystep9.png)Step 11— Turn off your DS. Turn it back on. Change the DS clock back to your Target Time. In this example, I change it back again to 17:22:00. Press A 1 second before your Target Second. In this example, I again hit A at 13 seconds. I do my 2 Keypresses (Select and Left) at this moment until the white message clears.
— You're basically doing step 8 and 9 again. Continue file; don't activate C-Gear. However, instead of immediately using Sweet Scent, immediately press X to pause and open your party. Go the the Chatot. View its summary. Every time you hear Chatot's custom Chatter, the PIDRNG Frame is advanced by 1.
— Do your calculated Chatter advancements now. In this example, I calculated that I must listen to its cry 178 times. Once you're finished with your Chatter advancements, then use Sweet Scent.
— The wild Pokémon should be shiny with your desired IVs. If not, turn off the DS and attempt to hit your Target Time again. Step 11http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9218/93newcaptureshinystep9.th.png (http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9218/93newcaptureshinystep9.png)

[a id]hatch[/a id]Hatching Flawless Shiny Pokémon
Click on the thumbnails on the right for additional guidance!Images
Colors match!Step 1— Gather good/flawless daycare parents and an Everstone. Know IVs of parents.
— Give Everstone to the parent with a desirable natue. Do NOT give Power Items to the parents. Deposit them into the Daycare and ride around on your bike until they produce an egg.
— Have a party of 5 or less Pokémon, including helpful Pokémon: Chattering Chatot, Quick Egg Hatcher, Flier. Optional: Sweet Scenter.
— Save your game directly in front of the Day-Care Old Man.
— Open the RNG Reporter.
— Click the Time Finder button. Step 1http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5778/setupstep1.th.png (http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5778/setupstep1.png)Step 2— Enter your entire MAC Address, Version+language, and DS Type. Don't check Soft Reset.
— Choose your preference for the Keypresses. Click the Skip L\R Buttons box if your L\R buttons don't work.
— If you found one Timer0 value, input that in twice.
— If you found two Timer0 values, input your Timer0 Minimum and Timer0 Maximum.
— The other settings should be the default, which vary from person to person.
— Use the DS parameters YOU found. Don't necessarily use mine.Step 2http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3783/93newcaptureshinystep1.th.png (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3783/93newcaptureshinystep1.png)Step 3— Go to the 4th/5th Gen Shiny Egg tab.
— Change Breeding Type to Black/White. Change Everstone into desirable nature. If you're using international parents, then select BW (international). Using international parents will increase your shiny odds.
— Customize Year and Month. Enter Min/Max Frame as 45 to 250. Don't check Use True Minimum Frame.
— Update other checkboxes (if Ditto is a parent, Show offspring's inheritance, or shiny only) as desired.
— Check Shiny Only box if you are going for Shiny Pokémon. Step 3http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1900/93newhatchshinystep3.th.png (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1900/93newhatchshinystep3.png)Step 4— Customize Nature, Ability, and Gender Ratio. Use Serebii.net to look up a Pokémon's Gender Ratio. Check Dream World Ability Only if desired. To pass Dream World abilities, the female must have the DW ability and neither parent can be Ditto. Enter your game's ID and SID.
— Use RNG Reporter's built-in Pokedex-IV Checker to check what ability is 0 and 1 for Pokémon with 2 abilities. For example, Solosis's Magic Guard is ability 1.
— Enter IVs of the Parent Pokémon.
— Ditto acts as the opposite gender of the other parent or if genderless breeding, Ditto acts as the female parent.
— Customize IV ranges. Step 4http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9909/93newhatchshinystep4.th.png (http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9909/93newhatchshinystep4.png)Step 5— Click Generate. You may have to wait several moments until RNG Reporter finds results.
— Examine the Frame column. A good frame number is between 55-100. Anything between 40-55 and 100-250 may be difficult or tedious to hit. Anything under 40 is impossible to hit. I made the criteria 45-250 so you are better aware of this.
— Examine the Date/Time Column. A good second is between 15 to 59. Any second between 0-14 is possible to hit, but time consuming (you have to adjust your DS clock to a whole minute before the Target Time, wait for it to roll over a minute, and then press A).
— Examine the Keypress column. If you searched for 1, 2, or 3 Keypresses, remember to press and hold these buttons properly. Although using No Keypress is easier, you may find fewer available spreads. Step 5http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2696/93newhatchshinystep5.th.png (http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2696/93newhatchshinystep5.png)Step 6— Pick a good seed you can work with. Highlight its row, right click, and Copy Seed to Clipboard.
— Minimize the Time Finder window. Return to the main window of RNG Reporter.
— From the dropdown menu, change Method to Breeding (BW). If you're using international breeding, just change Method to Breeding (BW, International).
— Change Max Results to 250. Copy Paste your Full Seed into Seed(Hex).
— If your Tornadus/Thundurus is roaming the Unova region, check the box. Click Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame. It will update the Starting Frame box.
— Enter your ID and SID.
Step 6http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4779/93newhatchshinystep6.th.png (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4779/93newhatchshinystep6.png)Step 7— Click Generate. Highlight any row, right click, click Display Parents in Search.
— Enter IVs of Female Parent & Male Parent. Click the Get IVs from IVRNG (Frame 8).
— If done correctly, RNG Reporter will show the IVs and Characteristic of the baby Pokémon.
— Scroll down on the table and verify your shiny frame is on this seed (a !!! indicates shiny). In this example, hitting Frame 78 will give us a shiny Timid flawless.
Step 7http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1815/93newhatchshinystep7.th.png (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1815/93newhatchshinystep7.png)Step 8— Get your Seed's Date, Time, and any Keypresses (as shown in step 5). In this example, I use Seed 0EB92FB3CBE49287, which has Target Date of Dec. 3rd, 2011 and Target Time 13:43:33. I have no Keypresses.
— Change the DS Clock to Seed's Target Date /Time. In this example, I change the date to Dec. 3rd and 13:43:00.
— In this example, my Target Second is 33. If you recall how we found a differential of 1 second, I will be pressing A at the DS main menu at this moment: 13:43:32, or the moment the DS clock's second hand hits 32 seconds.
— As soon as you click A, if applicable, press and hold your Keypress combination if you need to. Hold them until you get completely past the until the white "Pokémon Company, Nintendo" message. If you don't have Keypresses, press nothing until after this white message. Continue your file. Do NOT launch C-Gear. Step 8http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2696/93newhatchshinystep5.th.png (http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2696/93newhatchshinystep5.png)Step 9— Immediately interact with the Daycare Man and collect the egg. You should have been saved in front of the Daycare Man with your prepared party (of 5 or less Pokémon). Hatch the egg. Do not save during this process.
— Take note of the baby's nature, gender, ability, and characteristics. Take it to the IV judge in the Battle Subway to check its IVs (available after you beat the game).
— Match the baby's nature, gender, ability, and characteristic on the table. If you find a match, note what frame number it is on. This is the Shifted Frame. Wandering trainers on Route 3 have slightly shifted your PID Frame.
— Target Frame minus Shifted Frame. In this example, I had hatched a Relaxed Pokémon, which is Frame 50. I need to advance to Frame 78. Frame 78 - Frame 50 = 28 Chatter Advancements.
— If you did not find a match on the table, reset and repeat hitting your Target Time until you find a match. Step 9http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2839/93newhatchshinystep9.th.png (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2839/93newhatchshinystep9.png)Step 10— Turn off your DS. Turn it back on. Change the DS clock back to your Target Time. In this example, I change it back again to 13:43:00. Press A 1 second before your Target Second. In this example, I again hit A at 32 seconds. I do no Keypresses at this moment.
— You're basically doing step 8 and 9 again. Continue file; don't activate C-Gear. However, instead of immediately collecting the egg from the Daycare Man, immediately press X to pause and open your party. Go the the Chatot. View its summary. Every time you hear Chatot's custom Chatter, the PIDRNG Frame is advanced by 1.
— Do your calculated Chatter advancements now. In this example, I calculated that I must listen to its cry 20 times. Exit party and immediately collect the egg.
— Hatch the egg. It should hatch into a Shiny. If it did not, reset and try again. Step 10http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2839/93newhatchshinystep9.th.png (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2839/93newhatchshinystep9.png)Step 11: Optional Shortcut— Let's say that you have a really troublesome Pokémon to hatch, like Dratini or Larvesta. Upon completing your Chatter advancements, immediately collect the egg. Fly to the Pokémon League. Go to Victory Road and immediately enter a wild Pokémon battle (either by using Sweet Scent or turning your character in place). Catch it and find its approximate IVs.
— Go back to RNG Reporter's Main Menu. From the dropdown menu, change Method to Gen 5 IVs (Standard Seed). Change Starting Frame to 1. Click Generate.
— Look at Frames 14-20. If the caught Pokémon has roughly matching IVs on the table, you have successfully hit your seed. If there is no match, your egg will not be shiny flawless, but this saves you from hatching the wrong one.Step 11http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8946/93newhatchshinystep11.th.png (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8946/93newhatchshinystep11.png)










[a id]thanks[/a id]Special Thanks ❤ AlexOzzyCake, Gonz0, greg0915, johnny18, Kirozane, Mac of York, miakalina, and twistedpuppy for helping me finish and polish this guide. Danmad1, EmbC, Fluffee, Jolteon*, SCV058, and Sevrah for testing the guide in its early stages. Smogon (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83057) for the RNG research and original guide.

Cordelia
March 4th, 2012, 08:47 AM
May I join Mac? plz
I hope I'll edit t later with the RNG

Of course you may join! Just post a new post so it'll be easier for me to find. I can't wait to see it!

Challenge #1 is interesting, I'll hit that up soon! I think my target is going to be a Sandshrew. Despite it being my favourite Pokemon, it's also the first one I ever caught; maybe the two are linked! The most recent RNG I did was quite some time ago back when Trade Corner was trying to cheer up Twisted with pink RNGs, but that was a flawless Clefairy <3 Timer0 was kind, it only took one try. But the lack of NPCs in the giant chasm place was useful!

I can't wait to see your Sandshrew! Timer0 is almost never kind to me lately, but neither is delay. The lack of NPCs is quite useful, but I hate having to clear the weather. :(

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My newest RNG for my lovely Auntie K!

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Aipom ♀ Lv. 1 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Run Away
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Low Kick, Fake Out, U-turn, Double Hit
Non-Redis

johnny18
March 4th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Count me in for this club
Challenge completed :D. Clefairy reminds me of the fun pokemon manga in which Red had a clefairy that clefairy knew how to talk <3. I miss that manga so much.
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OT:Tevin l ID:28568 l NN: Pandora
IVs: 31-2-31-31-31-31
Nature: Calm l Ability: Magic Guard
Caught at Mt. Moon

Cordelia
March 4th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Congratulations, johnny! Clefairy was almost made for the love ball ^^ You were the first one to complete a challenge, yay!

Luckily, I'm not too far behind... challenge completed!

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Pikachu ♀ Lv. 4 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png
OT: Luna | ID: 04440
Nature: Timid
Ability: Static
IVs: 31, 7, 31, 31, 31, 31
EVs: Untrained
Moves: ThunderShock, Growl
Non-Redis

Pikachu was always one of my favorites since I first saw the mouse Pokemon in the anime and with Pokemon Yellow! I just love this little mouse and I'd die for a plushie of it, but my wife would never let me live that down! I would have done Charmander, since that's obviously my absolute favorite, but you can't catch him anywhere. :(

Gonzo
March 4th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Bro, make me co-owner before I go on hiatus :D

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/602.gif
31/30/30/31/31/31 Modest, Nest Ball (and yeah, it's shiny)
my very first 5th gen love

edit: since now, on hiatus ^^

이큐리
March 4th, 2012, 02:27 PM
Woot RNG abuse club. I haven't RNG'd anything in the last few days. I'll try and figure something out for the challenge tonight. Most likely it will be 4th gen though.

Cordelia
March 4th, 2012, 02:34 PM
Bro, make me co-owner before I go on hiatus :D

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/602.gif
31/30/30/31/31/31 Modest, Nest Ball (and yeah, it's shiny)
my very first 5th gen love

edit: since now, on hiatus ^^

Maybe when you get back ;) Right now I need active help. ^^

Woot RNG abuse club. I haven't RNG'd anything in the last few days. I'll try and figure something out for the challenge tonight. Most likely it will be 4th gen though.

I can't wait to see you come up with, sweet pair! I'm sure it'll be as amazing as you are ;)

EB
March 4th, 2012, 06:00 PM
I think I just found my new clubhouse. ;o

=

Pretty sure I've completed this challenge...

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31/31/31/22/31/31 - Adamant, Ultra Ball (shiny [no Chatot yet...])

Bouffalant is Tauros reincarnated, which happened to be my all-time favorite G1 Pokémon. (I mean, seriously; what's more bada** than a Tauros with an afro??) The one and only Mac of York guided me through this capture when I needed help--it having been my first time and all--and was very patient in answering all of my questions. Thanks again, dude! <3

Cordelia
March 4th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I think I just found my new clubhouse. ;o

=

Pretty sure I've completed this challenge...

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/anim/626.gif

31/31/31/22/31/31 - Adamant, Ultra Ball (shiny [no Chatot yet...])

Bouffalant is Tauros reincarnated, which happened to be my all-time favorite G1 Pokémon. (I mean, seriously; what's more bada** than a Tauros with an afro??) The one and only Mac of York guided me through this capture when I needed help--it having been my first time and all--and was very patient in answering all of my questions. Thanks again, dude! <3

Ha, a newbie to RNG and he already completes the challenge! Glad I could help you! The first RNG is usually one of the most painful, I've found out. Timer0 and your fingers seem to betray you the most at first.

oocyst
March 5th, 2012, 12:58 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and join this <3
Ugh can't RNG right now gtg to school! I'll do it after.

Cordelia
March 5th, 2012, 08:16 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and join this <3
Ugh can't RNG right now gtg to school! I'll do it after.

You can RNG now! Get to work ;) Hahaha... I can't wait to see what you come up with.

Anyway, I'd like to open the floor to suggestions for future challenges... if I have a list of them it'd be a lot easier than me just thinking them up.

What would you like to see as a challenge? Post and discuss!

SS01
March 5th, 2012, 09:47 AM
Hey Mac! I'll join this, just promise not to laugh at my RNG's!
I'll post with my challenge entry (Chikorita) later. For further challenges, hmm.. A seasonal thing, maybe?

Cordelia
March 5th, 2012, 09:58 AM
Hey Mac! I'll join this, just promise not to laugh at my RNG's!
I'll post with my challenge entry (Chikorita) later. For further challenges, hmm.. A seasonal thing, maybe?

I don't laugh at any RNGs :P A seasonal thing? Like... RNG your favorite winter-like Pokemon... so basically any ice types or winter Deerling... or something.

EB
March 5th, 2012, 10:09 AM
What would you like to see as a challenge? Post and discuss!

(1) I think something fun would be seeing how many RNGs we could come up with within a set time period. You could possibly segregate these by type as well. ^.^

(2) Assigning people RNGs they haven't already collected is another slightly less original idea.

(3) Trying to find your seed on the first attempt? (no set time limit; long-standing)

I have a few more ideas, but I'm thinking that most of these challenges would have to be made available for over four days, if not unlimited. Making a checklist of specific accomplishments seems more reasonable for RNGing, imo.

Cordelia
March 5th, 2012, 11:55 AM
(1) I think something fun would be seeing how many RNGs we could come up with within a set time period. You could possibly segregate these by type as well. ^.^

(2) Assigning people RNGs they haven't already collected is another slightly less original idea.

(3) Trying to find your seed on the first attempt? (no set time limit; long-standing)

I have a few more ideas, but I'm thinking that most of these challenges would have to be made available for over four days, if not unlimited. Making a checklist of specific accomplishments seems more reasonable for RNGing, imo.

1) That is something we could do as another assignment/challenge thing... but it would be a different category. Honestly though, that sounds insane xD

2) Assigning RNGs? Hmm... honestly I don't want to assign people anything, but I want them to RNG what they want. I am worried that assigning might take away the fun.

3) Now this would only apply for 5th generation, right? You have to find your shifted frame first and all... not sure.

I was mainly thinking of challenges as you are thinking of assignments "RNG a Pokemon that is your least favorite!" or something. I'm not sure at all though.

oocyst
March 5th, 2012, 11:56 AM
I did the challenge!
I have been looking for a favourite pokemon for a long time, I like a lot of pokemon but I never really loved any, until I met Cradily. That's why I RNGd a shiny lileep. I don't really like shiny Cradily though, so I'm gonna do a regular one too, just because I can!

http://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/345.png
Lileep ♂ ⋆
Suction Cups|Careful
31|31|31|3|31|31
Curse|Recover|Toxic|Rock Slide
Hatched in Relic Castle

LegendaryFSK
March 5th, 2012, 12:22 PM
I would like to join!

I chose to RNG breed a Growlithe to complete this challenge because he was my very first favorite Pokémon and will always remain one of my favorites.

Also, would like to say, I'm very proud of this RNG abuse. After a bunch of failed attempts at trying to breed using RNG, this is my first successful abuse while breeding!

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Growlithe http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Intimidate | 31 31 31 00 31 31
Flare Blitz | Close Combat | Wild Charge | Bite

Cordelia
March 5th, 2012, 01:05 PM
I did the challenge!
I have been looking for a favourite pokemon for a long time, I like a lot of pokemon but I never really loved any, until I met Cradily. That's why I RNGd a shiny lileep. I don't really like shiny Cradily though, so I'm gonna do a regular one too, just because I can!

http://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/345.png
Lileep ♂ ⋆
Suction Cups|Careful
31|31|31|3|31|31
Curse|Recover|Toxic|Rock Slide
Hatched in Relic Castle

Very nice abuse and great work with completing the challenge! When someone asked me to breed a Lileep one time, I had to look up to see what in the heck it was! xD

I would like to join!

I chose to RNG breed a Growlithe to complete this challenge because he was my very first favorite Pokémon and will always remain one of my favorites.

Also, would like to say, I'm very proud of this RNG abuse. After a bunch of failed attempts at trying to breed using RNG, this is my first successful abuse while breeding!

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/058.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Growlithe http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Intimidate | 31 31 31 00 31 31
Flare Blitz | Close Combat | Wild Charge | Bite

Ahh, Growlithe! A very nice choice and an excellent shiny sprite, if I may say so myself. Welcome to the Club and congratulations on completing the challenge!

EB
March 5th, 2012, 03:00 PM
I was mainly thinking of challenges as you are thinking of assignments "RNG a Pokemon that is your least favorite!" or something. I'm not sure at all though.


RNG your favorite Pokémon of the "_____" type!
Prepare for trouble... RNG a Pokémon used by Team Rocket!
Get out of your comfort zone: RNG a Pokémon you've never used before.
Who's your parallel? RNG a Pokémon that matches your personality and explain why you chose said 'mon.
The trusty talisman: RNG a Pokémon you've always relied upon. What about that Pokémon motivates you to where it never seems to leave your side?


Might come up with some more later. But this is more along the lines of what you were looking for, right? =3

이큐리
March 5th, 2012, 03:16 PM
RNG your favorite Pokémon of the "_____" type!
Prepare for trouble... RNG a Pokémon used by Team Rocket!
Get out of your comfort zone: RNG a Pokémon you've never used before.
Who's your parallel? RNG a Pokémon that matches your personality and explain why you chose said 'mon.
The trusty talisman: RNG a Pokémon you've always relied upon. What about that Pokémon motivates you to where it never seems to leave your side?


Might come up with some more later. But this is more along the lines of what you were looking for, right? =3
I like this one, "Get out of your comfort zone: RNG a Pokémon you've never used before." Although I don't use 80% of what I RNG anyway. x3

EB
March 5th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Yeah, that one was definitely the most credible. Just kind of thinking out loud... you can use all or none of what you find. =p

Cordelia
March 5th, 2012, 03:41 PM
RNG your favorite Pokémon of the "_____" type!
Prepare for trouble... RNG a Pokémon used by Team Rocket!
Get out of your comfort zone: RNG a Pokémon you've never used before.
Who's your parallel? RNG a Pokémon that matches your personality and explain why you chose said 'mon.
The trusty talisman: RNG a Pokémon you've always relied upon. What about that Pokémon motivates you to where it never seems to leave your side?


Might come up with some more later. But this is more along the lines of what you were looking for, right? =3

Hot damn! Those were definitely along the lines of things I was looking for! I happen to like every one of them :3 *scribbles them down*

LegendaryFSK
March 5th, 2012, 08:52 PM
Thought I'd get a little more practice in today. (Getting ready to go to the midnight release for Mass Effect 3 and that game will be my life for at least a week.) Anyway, here are the Pokémon that I decided to RNG after that Growlithe.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/231.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Phanpy http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Impish | Pick Up | 31 31 31 01 31 31
Earthquake | Body Slam | Defense Curl | Growl


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/079.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Slowpoke http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Modest | Regenerator | 31 02 31 31 31 31
Scald | Ice Beam | Toxic | Grass Knot


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/325.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Spoink http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Calm | Thick Fat | 31 30 31 31 31 31
Psychic | Substitute | Splash

oocyst
March 6th, 2012, 02:33 AM
RNG your favorite Pokémon of the "_____" type!
Prepare for trouble... RNG a Pokémon used by Team Rocket!
Get out of your comfort zone: RNG a Pokémon you've never used before.
Who's your parallel? RNG a Pokémon that matches your personality and explain why you chose said 'mon.
The trusty talisman: RNG a Pokémon you've always relied upon. What about that Pokémon motivates you to where it never seems to leave your side?


Might come up with some more later. But this is more along the lines of what you were looking for, right? =3

I love these, and now I'm getting all excited about them! I want to do more challenges!

何贤豪
March 6th, 2012, 03:08 AM
Hello!
Well, may I join this club? Firstly, I just need help and I also like RNG abuse. It allows you to get very good Pokemon/shiny Pokemon. Well, I always have problems with hitting my delay...I think I'll have to recalibrate. I may be able to hit a certain number of seconds, but delays are a different thing. I guess that they keep changing every time.
I'll be posting my very first HGSS RNG abuse (I only have HeartGold) after I can get rid of my problems with hitting my delay. Timers don't really help me.
I'll be following the challenges when I can finish my first project.
Thanks!

Cordelia
March 6th, 2012, 07:48 AM
Thought I'd get a little more practice in today. (Getting ready to go to the midnight release for Mass Effect 3 and that game will be my life for at least a week.) Anyway, here are the Pokémon that I decided to RNG after that Growlithe.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/231.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Phanpy http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Impish | Pick Up | 31 31 31 01 31 31
Earthquake | Body Slam | Defense Curl | Growl


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/079.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Slowpoke http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Modest | Regenerator | 31 02 31 31 31 31
Scald | Ice Beam | Toxic | Grass Knot


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/325.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Spoink http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Calm | Thick Fat | 31 30 31 31 31 31
Psychic | Substitute | Splash

Hot damn, someone's on a roll. Keep up the great work :D I can't wait to see what else you come up with.

Hello!
Well, may I join this club? Firstly, I just need help and I also like RNG abuse. It allows you to get very good Pokemon/shiny Pokemon. Well, I always have problems with hitting my delay...I think I'll have to recalibrate. I may be able to hit a certain number of seconds, but delays are a different thing. I guess that they keep changing every time.
I'll be posting my very first HGSS RNG abuse (I only have HeartGold) after I can get rid of my problems with hitting my delay. Timers don't really help me.
I'll be following the challenges when I can finish my first project.
Thanks!

Of course you may join this club, RGF! Well, timers should help you, so you need to keep working with it. How far off are you? Is it like 2-6ms or like 50ms? Or even maybe the seconds? Let me know.

RingoH
March 6th, 2012, 08:38 AM
, RGF! Well, timers should help you, so you need to keep working with it. How far off are you? Is it like 2-6ms or like 50ms? Or even maybe the seconds? Let me know.

FYI: for those in need of a timer the one I use that helps is a JavaScript one which I can use on my phone. I tried two others which did not help me and I was trying to rely on just a clock. The JavaScript timer really opened my RnG experience a lot.
http://prng.infos.cx/timer.html

Mac:
Thanks for starting this group. I think this is a way cool way to share out collective RNG experiences. I'm so on board!!

Current challenge.... Hmmm... Most of my favorites I have recently bred and I don't want to repeat so soon... I think something from the trophy garden as a wild encounter... Partially because I happen to like Cute Pokemon, and partially I have never done a wild RNG and I want to finally try.

Future Challenge Ideas:
I was at Genericon all weekend and a Pokemon fan there said he wanted a Shiny Bidoof because it was his favorite really bad poke. My idea: breed or catch a shiny of a less than favorable Pokemon with a bad nature, and low IV's... But bonus points if it has a high hidden power(even more bonus points if it's a hidden power that is 70 but would not normally be a good choice for that species). I think it could be a very, very creative challenge...

Cordelia
March 6th, 2012, 08:57 AM
FYI: for those in need of a timer the one I use that helps is a JavaScript one which I can use on my phone. I tried two others which did not help me and I was trying to rely on just a clock. The JavaScript timer really opened my RnG experience a lot.
http://prng.infos.cx/timer.html

Mac:
Thanks for starting this group. I think this is a way cool way to share out collective RNG experiences. I'm so on board!!

Current challenge.... Hmmm... Most of my favorites I have recently bred and I don't want to repeat so soon... I think something from the trophy garden as a wild encounter... Partially because I happen to like Cute Pokemon, and partially I have never done a wild RNG and I want to finally try.

Future Challenge Ideas:
I was at Genericon all weekend and a Pokemon fan there said he wanted a Shiny Bidoof because it was his favorite really bad poke. My idea: breed or catch a shiny of a less than favorable Pokemon with a bad nature, and low IV's... But bonus points if it has a high hidden power(even more bonus points if it's a hidden power that is 70 but would not normally be a good choice for that species). I think it could be a very, very creative challenge...

I recommend EonTimer -- that's what I use and it really helps. That JavaScript Timer I've really had issues with, never been able to figure it out. Welcome, though! An interesting idea, reminds me of my lulzfisk I did XD

RingoH
March 6th, 2012, 12:33 PM
I recommend EonTimer -- that's what I use and it really helps. That JavaScript Timer I've really had issues with, never been able to figure it out. Welcome, though! An interesting idea, reminds me of my lulzfisk I did XD

I tried PikaTimer when I first started to RNG with bad luck, then Eon Timer... In both cases I found I was having to manually change the delay by a lot to get even close. I find that the time from when I hit A on the DS to when I hit A on the continue screen is four seconds longer than my calculated delay would indicate. I just find it easier since I know that, to do my own math and calculate the time needed. I also like the added bonus of using it on my iPhone. I find that I more accurately start the timer and the game at the same time using the phone than the computer. I felt even when using the space bar to start that a timer on the computer felt like it had an unpredictable delay and fail to sync.

BZW Golem
March 6th, 2012, 01:02 PM
May I join?

I'm an RNG n00b, I only know 5 gen and I only RNGed natures and IV's..
because I was always too lazy to learn more (and because I don't like 90% of the shinies so i don't have much motivation >.>).

Maybe being here will motivate me to do more xD

I will try to do the challenge tomorrow, firstly I have to make RNG Reporter work on my computer..
new Linux, still no WINE, so no .net, and I bet that this little things will give me some trouble today >.>

Cordelia
March 6th, 2012, 01:13 PM
I tried PikaTimer when I first started to RNG with bad luck, then Eon Timer... In both cases I found I was having to manually change the delay by a lot to get even close. I find that the time from when I hit A on the DS to when I hit A on the continue screen is four seconds longer than my calculated delay would indicate. I just find it easier since I know that, to do my own math and calculate the time needed. I also like the added bonus of using it on my iPhone. I find that I more accurately start the timer and the game at the same time using the phone than the computer. I felt even when using the space bar to start that a timer on the computer felt like it had an unpredictable delay and fail to sync.

Oh, alright. Well, honestly just use whatever works for you. That's cool though since I could never figure out how to use that damned javascript timer... lol.

May I join?

I'm an RNG n00b, I only know 5 gen and I only RNGed natures and IV's..
because I was always too lazy to learn more (and because I don't like 90% of the shinies so i don't have much motivation >.>).

Maybe being here will motivate me to do more xD

I will try to do the challenge tomorrow, firstly I have to make RNG Reporter work on my computer..
new Linux, still no WINE, so no .net, and I bet that this little things will give me some trouble today >.>

Sure, you can join, but I will warn you that trying to get RNG Reporter to run under Linux is a huge pain. I could never get it working so I used a ...free... copy of Windows to run it in VirtualBox.

EB
March 6th, 2012, 01:40 PM
I've been Googling and I think I've gone through at least three different guides by now, trying to find out how RNGing actually works. All the guides I've read only seem to talk about what the individual needs to do to get their proper Pokémon; they never seem to explain how they game processes the information we feed it to give us the results we're looking for.

I think that if we did more to elaborate this, more people would be able to grasp the entire picture, maybe even without other forms of communication outside of text. Without this information, they'll just dive in, mess things up, and start bombarding others with noob questions about why they didn't get their flawless shiny legendary. (And we all know we've been guilty of similar issues.) By giving examples of mistakes and how the game responds in patterns during such mistakes, we could also help explain to people how the game spat out the results it did--ultimately narrowing down the possible things the person messed up on.

This way they don't have to restart, praying they get every single little detail on the bulls-eye, without even really knowing what went wrong. They'll be able to pinpoint the human error and eliminate it within the first few tries, knowing full well that none of the other elements were the issue. All this is really offering is just the proper means of practice; if the individual was without a clue as to what went wrong, if they're smart they'll end up looking for the thing that caused their problem: they'll try to control all but one function and fluctuate that one while the others remain fixed. If that wasn't it, they'll do so with another function, ultimately leading to a ridiculously grueling process of trial and error.

If you get what I'm saying, does anyone else agree with this? Or have I simply been looking in the wrong places, where the game's processing hasn't been addressed?

BZW Golem
March 6th, 2012, 01:42 PM
Sure, you can join, but I will warn you that trying to get RNG Reporter to run under Linux is a huge pain. I could never get it working so I used a ...free... copy of Windows to run it in VirtualBox.
Hm?
I made it work previously on Ubuntu 10.04 and Fedora 15..
I can't say that it "worked just fine" but it worked "fine enough" xD

It calculated everything right.. things like "invisible checkboxes" were annoying but not impossible to deal with :3

@earth boy

Well, to be frank.. people are stupid.

RNG guides are already long and complicated for a newbie.. but are written in a way that gives everyone an equal chance to RNG, without much knowledge about programming, algorithms etc.

To explain not only how to do it, but also how it works.. that would be much longer and complicated.
I don't think anyone has enough patience to do that.
Especially since there are really little people who want to know "how it works", most just want to "get the perfect pokemon".

I would love to understand completely everything about RNG, but I don't believe that anyone will be so kind end explain me something this complicated..
the only choice is to become good with hacking myself XD

Or for nintendo to give the source code of their games to the public, but that is just a stupid dream *.*

EB
March 6th, 2012, 02:42 PM
RNG guides are already long and complicated for a newbie.. but are written in a way that gives everyone an equal chance to RNG, without much knowledge about programming, algorithms etc.

To explain not only how to do it, but also how it works.. that would be much longer and complicated.
I don't think anyone has enough patience to do that.
Especially since there are really little people who want to know "how it works", most just want to "get the perfect pokemon".

I would love to understand completely everything about RNG, but I don't believe that anyone will be so kind end explain me something this complicated..

When I posted, I didn't mean specifically all the algorithms and numbers associated with how the game works, just specific patterns that the game goes through that give just the right amount of evidence we need to say, "Oh, you forgot to do [x]" or "this was off by [x] amount," etc.

I completely agree that going through the game coding would be ridiculously tiresome and very few people would have the patience to read such a document to begin with. But if we can categorize specific mistakes, noobs like myself will have the evidence in front of them they need, informing them what specifically went wrong--even if they're still overwhelmed.

RingoH
March 6th, 2012, 05:36 PM
May I join?

I'm an RNG n00b, I only know 5 gen and I only RNGed natures and IV's..
because I was always too lazy to learn more (and because I don't like 90% of the shinies so i don't have much motivation >.>).

Maybe being here will motivate me to do more xD

I will try to do the challenge tomorrow, firstly I have to make RNG Reporter work on my computer..
new Linux, still no WINE, so no .net, and I bet that this little things will give me some trouble today >.>

Yeah, you pretty much have to like the look of the shiny to want to put the effort in... But sometimes the final evolution will look awsome so that's what I go by. I've been working on my collection of shinies based on which ones I personally like, either because I like the Poke or because I like the coloration on that particular one.... But in my case there are less than half I dont like... So I'm pretty much working on collecting all eventually.

EB
March 6th, 2012, 07:47 PM
Might as well put this here... The other RNG Mac helped me out with a while ago:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t433/earth_boy/498.gif
Tepig ♂ | Level 5
eb | 46682 | White
Adamant | Blaze | 31 31 31 05 31 31
Tackle | Tail Whip | - | - |

Props to Legendary FSK for being first to show me the layout. =]

何贤豪
March 6th, 2012, 08:11 PM
Well, my seconds might be messed up. It's random every time. I tried calibrating yesterday and got 11 seconds for each of my calibration attempts (I did it twice).
There was one time I calibrated and I got 14 seconds. My delay rate is 497-513.
Weirdly, how could the seconds rate change? And using timers is a bit hard...it runs pretty fast. Should I use it with speakers? My first calibration was a Moltres capture in Mt. Silver and my second and third calibrations were a Zapdos capture in the Power Plant. Maybe that will help clear things up?
And also...a bit off-topic, but I'm wondering if someone can help me check the IVs of my newest but still unavailable RNG abuse project later on... I use HeartGold to RNG, which is a pain due to delays. Black and White RNG abuse is less of a pain, but I use a flash cart. (So much for getting Nobunaga's Rayquaza...and so much for getting Zekrom)

Feralize
March 6th, 2012, 08:29 PM
I'll join too, I know 5th gen standard, egg, and a little cgear abuse...

I'm struggling with both Entralink RNG and TID/SID abuse in 4th gen.
For my Entralink RNG, I'm consistently hitting within 5 frames of my target delay (5225, if anyone is curious) but I can never exactly hit my frame. It's frustrating, to say the least, and I've spent close to 5 hours trying to get it right. Anyone have any hints?

That and I just don't understand ID RNG in Plainum. At all.

何贤豪
March 6th, 2012, 08:43 PM
Well, maybe I know something? ID RNG should be RNG abusing your TID/SID for a Shiny Pokemon, right?
I know that one in Platinum. I've done that for about three times (these are the times when I succeeded).
It's pretty simple. Should I explain here? And I'm talking about RNG abusing to get Shiny Pokemon by hatching eggs, not catching Shiny Pokemon.

johnny18
March 6th, 2012, 10:30 PM
I'll join too, I know 5th gen standard, egg, and a little cgear abuse...

I'm struggling with both Entralink RNG and TID/SID abuse in 4th gen.
For my Entralink RNG, I'm consistently hitting within 5 frames of my target delay (5225, if anyone is curious) but I can never exactly hit my frame. It's frustrating, to say the least, and I've spent close to 5 hours trying to get it right. Anyone have any hints?

That and I just don't understand ID RNG in Plainum. At all.

what part of ID RNG in platinum that you do not understand? Recap what you did and I may be able to help you with that

Well, maybe I know something? ID RNG should be RNG abusing your TID/SID for a Shiny Pokemon, right?
I know that one in Platinum. I've done that for about three times (these are the times when I succeeded).
It's pretty simple. Should I explain here? And I'm talking about RNG abusing to get Shiny Pokemon by hatching eggs, not catching Shiny Pokemon.

huh? You're confusing me. ID/SID RNG is probably for shiny wild pokemons (mostly legendaries). If it is about eggs, there is no need for ID/AID abuse at all.

何贤豪
March 7th, 2012, 01:35 AM
Erm, you need your ID and SID for Shiny Pokemon from eggs. All Shiny Pokemon (excluding Wonder Card Shiny Pokemon) need your TID/SID. The combination of your TID and SID are used to create PIDs. And the value of a Pokemon's PID determines shininess and more things (excluding IVs, I guess).

johnny18
March 7th, 2012, 05:39 AM
Erm, you need your ID and SID for Shiny Pokemon from eggs. All Shiny Pokemon (excluding Wonder Card Shiny Pokemon) need your TID/SID.
Yes, it is true but for shiny eggs, any combination of ID and SID will work just fine. ID/SID RNG is only used to get a nice ID and in 4th gen, to catch a shiny wild legendary (mostly) with good IVs.
The combination of your TID and SID are used to create PIDs. And the value of a Pokemon's PID determines shininess and more things (excluding IVs, I guess).
This sounds like you are talking about 5th gen abuse but the topic is about 4th gen abuse. In 4th gen, the IVs are tied with shininess, PID, ability etc. That's why it is almost impossible for you to get a wild shiny pokemon with good IVs with a random ID/SID combination in 4th gen unless you get extremely lucky with your ID and that's why ID/SID RNG comes in handy.

何贤豪
March 7th, 2012, 06:29 AM
Oh, sorry about that! Well, I'd also like to ID abuse and get a good ID and SID, but I have gone this far...how could I restart? Maybe I should...but still, the delays and all that? That's a big problem.

Cordelia
March 7th, 2012, 06:36 AM
I've been Googling and I think I've gone through at least three different guides by now, trying to find out how RNGing actually works. All the guides I've read only seem to talk about what the individual needs to do to get their proper Pokémon; they never seem to explain how they game processes the information we feed it to give us the results we're looking for.

I think that if we did more to elaborate this, more people would be able to grasp the entire picture, maybe even without other forms of communication outside of text. Without this information, they'll just dive in, mess things up, and start bombarding others with noob questions about why they didn't get their flawless shiny legendary. (And we all know we've been guilty of similar issues.) By giving examples of mistakes and how the game responds in patterns during such mistakes, we could also help explain to people how the game spat out the results it did--ultimately narrowing down the possible things the person messed up on.

This way they don't have to restart, praying they get every single little detail on the bulls-eye, without even really knowing what went wrong. They'll be able to pinpoint the human error and eliminate it within the first few tries, knowing full well that none of the other elements were the issue. All this is really offering is just the proper means of practice; if the individual was without a clue as to what went wrong, if they're smart they'll end up looking for the thing that caused their problem: they'll try to control all but one function and fluctuate that one while the others remain fixed. If that wasn't it, they'll do so with another function, ultimately leading to a ridiculously grueling process of trial and error.

If you get what I'm saying, does anyone else agree with this? Or have I simply been looking in the wrong places, where the game's processing hasn't been addressed?

Well, there are a lot of factors in RNG abuse that a lot of people don't understand it took me a while to understand. When you start the game at a certain time, the game generates a seed. You try to manipulate what the seed is by starting it at a particular hour, minute and second. You can also use keypresses to change which seed you hit. If you do a different keypress but same time, you will get a different seed. Also, there is a little annoyance called timer0, which is a seed encryption variable that is quite a bit more difficult to control. You will usually have two timer0s per game. It is speculated that timer0 is related to which part of the second you start the game in, with one being in the earlier part of the second and the other being in the latter. This is by no means confirmed, just speculation from experience.

With capture RNG, you first interact with the IVRNG, which determines the IVs (Individual Values) of your pokemon with a max of 31 per stat. So on this seed with capture RNG, every Pokemon you encounter will have the same IVs but a different PID (Pokemon Identification Number).

The PIDRNG (Pokemon Identification Number Random Number Generator) is what determines shininess, nature, gender, and ability of each Pokemon you encounter. The PIDRNG is separated by frames and each frame have a PID on it. You may find duplicate PIDs on the list, but usually each frame is different. Now, the game also does interesting things that advance the PIDRNG through each frame. Any time you walk through the grass or a cave with wild Pokemon in it, the game advances the PIDRNG by 1-2 frames per step. Also, by listening to a Chatot's customer chatter, it advances the PIDRNG by one frame each time. Also, each time an NPC that does random movement moves, it advances the PIDRNG. Battles advance the PIDRNG and IVRNG as well. Also, the C-Gear advances the PIDRNG by a frame every ~1.7 seconds. There are other ways to advance the PIDRNG, but these ways are usually the most common.

The whole point of RNG is to manipulate all of these factors to get the Pokemon that you want. If you want me to continue to elaborate, let me know... I could probably ramble on for a bit longer.

Hm?
I made it work previously on Ubuntu 10.04 and Fedora 15..
I can't say that it "worked just fine" but it worked "fine enough" xD

It calculated everything right.. things like "invisible checkboxes" were annoying but not impossible to deal with :3

Oh, very good! You got a lot farther with it than I ever did, of course I was running PCLinuxOS KDE.

Yeah, you pretty much have to like the look of the shiny to want to put the effort in... But sometimes the final evolution will look awsome so that's what I go by. I've been working on my collection of shinies based on which ones I personally like, either because I like the Poke or because I like the coloration on that particular one.... But in my case there are less than half I dont like... So I'm pretty much working on collecting all eventually.

I'm not a big fan of some shinies as well, usually if I'm breeding I'll decide which one to do by what I like more... but with capture I usually prefer non-shiny especially in 4th gen due to the whole abusing IDs and stuff.

Might as well put this here... The other RNG Mac helped me out with a while ago:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t433/earth_boy/498.gif
Tepig ♂ | Level 5
eb | 46682 | White
Adamant | Blaze | 31 31 31 05 31 31
Tackle | Tail Whip | - | - |

Props to Legendary FSK for being first to show me the layout. =]

Congrats again, eb ^^ I can't believe you abused your starter right off the bat xD

Well, my seconds might be messed up. It's random every time. I tried calibrating yesterday and got 11 seconds for each of my calibration attempts (I did it twice).
There was one time I calibrated and I got 14 seconds. My delay rate is 497-513.
Weirdly, how could the seconds rate change? And using timers is a bit hard...it runs pretty fast. Should I use it with speakers? My first calibration was a Moltres capture in Mt. Silver and my second and third calibrations were a Zapdos capture in the Power Plant. Maybe that will help clear things up?
And also...a bit off-topic, but I'm wondering if someone can help me check the IVs of my newest but still unavailable RNG abuse project later on... I use HeartGold to RNG, which is a pain due to delays. Black and White RNG abuse is less of a pain, but I use a flash cart. (So much for getting Nobunaga's Rayquaza...and so much for getting Zekrom)

Are you getting different seconds each time you calibrate? If so, are you starting the game at the same second each time? For example, starting at 30 seconds and consistently getting 41 seconds means your calibrated second is 11. Or are you actually trying to RNG a pokemon? If this, you might have too wide of a search in Seed to Time. Try -100,+100 delay and -1,+1 second.

I'll join too, I know 5th gen standard, egg, and a little cgear abuse...

I'm struggling with both Entralink RNG and TID/SID abuse in 4th gen.
For my Entralink RNG, I'm consistently hitting within 5 frames of my target delay (5225, if anyone is curious) but I can never exactly hit my frame. It's frustrating, to say the least, and I've spent close to 5 hours trying to get it right. Anyone have any hints?

That and I just don't understand ID RNG in Plainum. At all.

Entralink abuse is all about hitting delay and then praying you get the right nature because right now it's rather difficult to control the PIDRNG with the C-gear on. Luckily, Smogon has been doing a lot of research on this topic.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4106028&postcount=12628

Now for Platinum ID abuse, you need to start your game at the end of the first timer, then hit A at the tv screen at the end of the second timer. I recommend a delay over 7000... it allows me enough time to go through and enter my name and everything and still have around 20 seconds to wait before I hit OK at the tv screen. When you first see the tv screen, it takes a few seconds before you can even hit A, so allowing more time is always good.

Well, maybe I know something? ID RNG should be RNG abusing your TID/SID for a Shiny Pokemon, right?
I know that one in Platinum. I've done that for about three times (these are the times when I succeeded).
It's pretty simple. Should I explain here? And I'm talking about RNG abusing to get Shiny Pokemon by hatching eggs, not catching Shiny Pokemon.

You need to know your TID/SID in order to get shiny Pokemon. You don't need to abuse your IDs to get these, though.

oocyst
March 7th, 2012, 06:42 AM
^Huge post tl;dr

Did two RNGs because I can :

http://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/592.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/netball.pngFrillish ♂ ⋆
Water Absorb|lvl. 6|Bold
31|7|31|31|31|31
Bubble|Water Sport|Absorb
Semi-Redis


http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/646.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pngKyurem ♁
Pressure|lvl. 75|Modest|HP Fire
31|26|31|30|31|30
Glaciate|Dragon Pulse|Imprison|Endeavour
Non Redis

Frillish is my second shiny capture ever! I'm getting better and better, next up is either the roamer or maybe entralink but I have no idea how to do those ;;

Kyurem was so hard to catch omg he kept killing me

何贤豪
March 7th, 2012, 06:45 AM
I sometimes get different seconds when I calibrate.
Here's my seconds and delay information:

Seconds: 14, 11, 11, 13, 13, 13, 13 (Range: 11-14)
Delay: 489, 513 511, 501, 497, 495, 499 (Range: 489-513)

And I am also trying to RNG a Pokemon. Whenever I RNG abuse, I use these settings in Seed to Times:

Delays +10 -10 / Seconds +0 -0

And what do these settings actually do?

Cordelia
March 7th, 2012, 06:53 AM
^Huge post tl;dr

Did two RNGs because I can :

http://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/592.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/netball.pngFrillish ♂ ⋆
Water Absorb|lvl. 6|Bold
31|7|31|31|31|31
Bubble|Water Sport|Absorb
Semi-Redis


http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/646.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pngKyurem ♁
Pressure|lvl. 75|Modest|HP Fire
31|26|31|30|31|30
Glaciate|Dragon Pulse|Imprison|Endeavour
Non Redis

Frillish is my second shiny capture ever! I'm getting better and better, next up is either the roamer or maybe entralink but I have no idea how to do those ;;

Kyurem was so hard to catch omg he kept killing me

Ooh, congratulations, Rednael on your captures! They are excellent -- I really like Wingull's shiny sprite and Kyurem with HP Fire is <333 Entralink is a huge pain in the butt, but there is research going on on controlling the PIDRNG in there to make it less difficult.

I sometimes get different seconds when I calibrate.
Here's my seconds and delay information:

Seconds: 14, 11, 11, 13, 13, 13, 13 (Range: 11-14)
Delay: 489, 513 511, 501, 497, 495, 499 (Range: 489-513)

And I am also trying to RNG a Pokemon. Whenever I RNG abuse, I use these settings in Seed to Times:

Delays +10 -10 / Seconds +0 -0

And what do these settings actually do?

I ask again, are you starting the game consistently on the same second and then spamming A to get to continue screen? Your seconds should never fluctuate really, especially if you hit A at 30 seconds every time.

Delays +10 -10 / Seconds +0 -0 - This is your delay and second range as shown in seed to time. By increasing delay to +50, -50, it will show 50 delay up from your target and 50 delay under. Seconds is the same thing, but it'll show seconds below and above your target delay.

Once you can get rid of your 'fluctuating' second, I'd recommend trying -25,+25 delay and stay with the -0,+0 second.

何贤豪
March 7th, 2012, 06:56 AM
What do you mean by above and below? This is confusing.
And I do spam A to get to the Continue screen, but sometimes I just touch. I guess that's the problem. I have to stick to one type of getting into the game.

Cordelia
March 7th, 2012, 07:12 AM
By above I mean above your target second or delay, and by below I mean below your target second or delay. And I only spam A when I am calibrating. :3

johnny18
March 7th, 2012, 07:16 AM
What do you mean by above and below? This is confusing.
And I do spam A to get to the Continue screen, but sometimes I just touch. I guess that's the problem. I have to stick to one type of getting into the game.
What he means is this
if your target delay is 677 for example, by putting delays +10 -10, the RNG reporter will show you the possible range of delays you may hit from 677 - 10 to 677 + 10. This also applies to second. That's why we suggest you to put the second as seconds +0 -0 so that you do not have to worry about the second, just delays. Hope this make sense to you.

Squirrel
March 7th, 2012, 07:20 AM
I don't have time to lay out the challenge RNG in a fancy way, but I finally got round to doing it \o/ I RNGed Floony! <3 Capture RNG on Route 13 (I think... idr Unova) and it was a shiny female with 31/x/30/31/30/31 and Unburden. Not perfect, but it'll do me. Floony has been an extremely special Pokemon to me as anyone that knows me well will know, so yeah - can't wait for next time! As for future topics, I'd quite like one dedicated to cute Pokemon... I'm a big fan ;]

Cordelia
March 7th, 2012, 07:24 AM
I don't have time to lay out the challenge RNG in a fancy way, but I finally got round to doing it \o/ I RNGed Floony! <3 Capture RNG on Route 13 (I think... idr Unova) and it was a shiny female with 31/x/30/31/30/31 and Unburden. Not perfect, but it'll do me. Floony has been an extremely special Pokemon to me as anyone that knows me well will know, so yeah - can't wait for next time! As for future topics, I'd quite like one dedicated to cute Pokemon... I'm a big fan ;]

Very nice Floony! I updated the original post with your accomplishment.

Remember everyone, the challenge ends tonight at 11:59 PM EST so make sure you get your submissions in!

greg0915
March 7th, 2012, 10:29 AM
How have I only just heard about this!?!?!?!? Well Mac I guess you beat me to it and created this place. I'd love to join!

My latest abuse (kinda)

Platinum
OT: George
ID: 27227

I was gonna abuse this but my taught my friend to do it instead however I will probably RNG'ing most of the pokes.

EDIT:
Challenge complete!
I've RNG'd this guy because I love Tentacruel and it was my 1st successful IV breed back in the days before RNG'ing =')

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/072.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.png
Tentacool ♂ Lv.23
OT: George | ID: 17771
Timid | Liquid Ooze
31, 12, 31, 31, 31, 31
Acid, Toxic Spikes, BubbleBeam, Wrap
Valley Windworks | Fully Redis

Feralize
March 7th, 2012, 12:29 PM
Okay, I'm attempting to RNG my Id's again. I've hit my target delay fairly consistently, but I'm not getting the ID/SID combo I want.

What I did:
Started the first timer when I set the time.
Hit A to enter the game when my first timer went off.
Went through the opening of the game, entered my name, etc.
Hit A to dismiss the TV screen when my second timer went off, thus hitting my target delay (6524).

I was aiming for ID 63372 SID 10001 (makes two flawless spreads shiny!)
I got ID 28818 SID 45729 (doesn't work :/)

Any ideas?

johnny18
March 7th, 2012, 12:50 PM
Okay, I'm attempting to RNG my Id's again. I've hit my target delay fairly consistently, but I'm not getting the ID/SID combo I want.

What I did:
Started the first timer when I set the time.
Hit A to enter the game when my first timer went off.
Went through the opening of the game, entered my name, etc.
Hit A to dismiss the TV screen when my second timer went off, thus hitting my target delay (6524).

I was aiming for ID 63372 SID 10001 (makes two flawless spreads shiny!)
I got ID 28818 SID 45729 (doesn't work :/)

Any ideas?
open your RNG reporter and look on the right hand. There should be a title "Seed Finder" to it. Put the day, month, year, hour, minute of the ID that you are trying to hit. The min/max delay area is min/max delay that you originally put on the place with the title "Shiny PID." On the "Trainer ID Obtained" box, put the ID that you get which is 28818. I wonder though, how do you know that you hit your delay?

Feralize
March 7th, 2012, 12:56 PM
When I put my obtained ID into the right side of Pandora's Box, it says that I hit my delay even though I got the wrong ID.

johnny18
March 7th, 2012, 12:58 PM
When I put my obtained ID into the right side of Pandora's Box, it says that I hit my delay even though I got the wrong ID.
look at the second you hit, it may be the cause. Sometimes RNG reporter gives me two seed, both with the same delay but different second.

How have I only just heard about this!?!?!?!? Well Mac I guess you beat me to it and created this place. I'd love to join!

My latest abuse (kinda)

Platinum
OT: George
ID: 27227

I was gonna abuse this but my taught my friend to do it instead however I will probably RNG'ing most of the pokes.

EDIT:
Challenge complete!
I've RNG'd this guy because I love Tentacruel and it was my 1st successful IV breed back in the days before RNG'ing =')

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/072.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.png
Tentacool ♂ Lv.23
OT: George | ID: 17771
Timid | Liquid Ooze
31, 12, 31, 31, 31, 31
Acid, Toxic Spikes, BubbleBeam, Wrap
Valley Windworks | Fully Redis

How dare you to RNG his awesome mon before I do JK :D

loucas
March 7th, 2012, 05:21 PM
My Entry

:) mac said i should join this Club

so i Proudly Present

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bwf/592.png
Frillish
OT:Alexia ID:30012
Lv.21
Nature: Modest Ability: Water Absorb
on a Heal Ball
Driftveil City
somewhat vain

30/14/31/30/31/31 HP FIRE 70


i wanted a frillish coz it's like on of the cutest critter in GEN V
now where can i find a sprite for her?

alas, it works.

thanks a lot MAC :)

Cordelia
March 7th, 2012, 05:27 PM
My Entry

:) mac said i should join this Club

so i Proudly Present

Frillish
Lv.21
MODEST
on a Heal Ball
Driftveil City
somewhat vain

30/14/31/30/31/31 HP FIRE 70


now where can i find a sprite for her?

Congratulations! I'll add you to the list of folks that have completed the challenge. I answered you on IRC but others might be interested so...

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites.html

That's a good place to get sprites. :3

何贤豪
March 7th, 2012, 07:59 PM
Ah, now I get it. Thanks! I'll be back with my newest project!

Cordelia
March 7th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Ah, now I get it. Thanks! I'll be back with my newest project!

Woo! Great news -- good luck with your RNG and I can't wait to see it.

何贤豪
March 7th, 2012, 11:05 PM
Does anyone know how to RNG abuse wild Pokemon for HGSS? Because I'm in a mixed-up situation... Instead of getting what I wanted, I got a Psyduck...it's because the Psyduck's female. So now, I have to get a Ditto. Well, if I'm going to be breeding a (Shiny) Flawless Pokemon, a Ditto can help! It can breed with any Pokemon! And also...does anyone think that most RNG abusers also RNG abuse their ID and SID?
Thanks!
Oh, and for the Ditto, here's the spreads I can use. I found these spreads by using PokeRNG:

Search for: HP: >= 31, Atk: >= 31, Def: >= 31, SpA: >= 31, SpD: >= 31, Spe: >= 31, Min. delay: 478, Max. delay: 638, Year: 2012, Encounter Slots (Method K): Land 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11 (without synch)
PID: E9375A48 (Calm, ability 0), IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31, seed: 5D000242, delay: 566 (year: 2012), method 1: 163, K (synch): 10, K (no synch): 48, HP: Dark 70
PID: 6937DA48 (Modest, ability 0), IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31, seed: DD000242, delay: 566 (year: 2012), method 1: 163, K (synch): 22, K (no synch): 40, HP: Dark 70

greg0915
March 8th, 2012, 05:09 AM
Does anyone know how to RNG abuse wild Pokemon for HGSS? Because I'm in a mixed-up situation... Instead of getting what I wanted, I got a Psyduck...it's because the Psyduck's female. So now, I have to get a Ditto. Well, if I'm going to be breeding a (Shiny) Flawless Pokemon, a Ditto can help! It can breed with any Pokemon! And also...does anyone think that most RNG abusers also RNG abuse their ID and SID?
Thanks!
Oh, and for the Ditto, here's the spreads I can use. I found these spreads by using PokeRNG:

Search for: HP: >= 31, Atk: >= 31, Def: >= 31, SpA: >= 31, SpD: >= 31, Spe: >= 31, Min. delay: 478, Max. delay: 638, Year: 2012, Encounter Slots (Method K): Land 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11 (without synch)
PID: E9375A48 (Calm, ability 0), IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31, seed: 5D000242, delay: 566 (year: 2012), method 1: 163, K (synch): 10, K (no synch): 48, HP: Dark 70
PID: 6937DA48 (Modest, ability 0), IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31, seed: DD000242, delay: 566 (year: 2012), method 1: 163, K (synch): 22, K (no synch): 40, HP: Dark 70

Although I haven't RNG'd on HG yet however A lot of RNG abusers do RNG their ID/SID for two reasons.

1. To obtain certain high IV shiny capture seeds (4 Gen mainly)

2. To obtain a desired ID/SID combo

johnny18
March 8th, 2012, 05:47 AM
Does anyone know how to RNG abuse wild Pokemon for HGSS? Because I'm in a mixed-up situation... Instead of getting what I wanted, I got a Psyduck...it's because the Psyduck's female. So now, I have to get a Ditto. Well, if I'm going to be breeding a (Shiny) Flawless Pokemon, a Ditto can help! It can breed with any Pokemon! And also...does anyone think that most RNG abusers also RNG abuse their ID and SID?
Thanks!
Oh, and for the Ditto, here's the spreads I can use. I found these spreads by using PokeRNG:

Search for: HP: >= 31, Atk: >= 31, Def: >= 31, SpA: >= 31, SpD: >= 31, Spe: >= 31, Min. delay: 478, Max. delay: 638, Year: 2012, Encounter Slots (Method K): Land 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11 (without synch)
PID: E9375A48 (Calm, ability 0), IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31, seed: 5D000242, delay: 566 (year: 2012), method 1: 163, K (synch): 10, K (no synch): 48, HP: Dark 70
PID: 6937DA48 (Modest, ability 0), IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31, seed: DD000242, delay: 566 (year: 2012), method 1: 163, K (synch): 22, K (no synch): 40, HP: Dark 70
If you RNG in HGSS, you need to RNG when you are riding your bike. Do not let a pokemon following you when you RNG wild pokemon as it will mess up your frame. Also, when you use Sweet Scent, the frame advances about 1 to 3 depending on each game so you will have to hit your delay first, advances the frame, catch the pokemon and determine which frame you end up with.
For example, I ride my bike and go to area where I can catch a wild pokemon. I save the game and find the seed that I want to use. My target frame is 45. I hit my delay, advance the frame, catch the pokemon and I find out that my frame is 47 instead of 45. I know that my frame will advance 2 frames each time I use the sweet scent. I reset and do all the step again but this time I will advance 43 frames instead of 45 and bang, I get the pokemon I want.

SS01
March 8th, 2012, 06:15 AM
Due to a series of unforeseen incidents, I may not be able to RNG anything for the next little while. I may or may not be able to complete the next challenge.

何贤豪
March 8th, 2012, 06:36 AM
Okay then. But do 5th Gen RNG abusers also RNG their ID and SID? If that's so, maybe I'll do the same with B2/W2. And still...can someone help me with my Ditto problem? Thanks!
Oh yeah, I'm also planning to RNG abuse the Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs Deoxys. Can someone tell me how would you make RNG abusing a Wonder Card Pokemon work? (I'm a full novice on the whole IV RNG thing, I have only RNG abused for shininess and sometimes it won't work anyway)
And also...okay, thanks for that johnny18 but if I were to find out my Sweet Scent frame advance by your example, still...how would you find out that you're in frame 47? And not only that, you'd advance your frames by any kind of way that's possible and consistent (maybe by calling Prof. Elm/Joey), right? And you'd also have to do 10 Prof. Elm calls after changing the system's time and date (if required) and also after waiting a minute to find out what seed you're in, right? And also...how would this RNG abuse actually work? (What are the steps?)

greg0915
March 8th, 2012, 06:59 AM
Okay then. But do 5th Gen RNG abusers also RNG their ID and SID? If that's so, maybe I'll do the same with B2/W2. And still...can someone help me with my Ditto problem? Thanks!
Oh yeah, I'm also planning to RNG abuse the Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs Deoxys. Can someone tell me how would you make RNG abusing a Wonder Card Pokemon work? (I'm a full novice on the whole IV RNG thing, I have only RNG abused for shininess and sometimes it won't work anyway)

Yes, 5th Gen abusers do but there is less need to because high IV shiny seeds are obtainable anyway. But if you were looking for a specific spread or wanted to RNG your starter then you would have to abuse your ID/SID.


My first Honey Tree abuse!

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/luxuryball.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/265.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/luxuryball.png
Wurmple ♀ Lv.11
OT: George | ID: 17771
Timid | Shield Dust
31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31
Tackle, String Shot, Poison Sting
Floaroma Meadow | Fully Redis

Squirrel
March 8th, 2012, 07:57 AM
Very nice Floony! I updated the original post with your accomplishment.

Floony is a Drifblim, not Drifloon x] But thanks!

I tried fishing RNG today on Black and it's not working at all for me... Any tips? I want my Staryu! It just keeps saying nothing is biting at the rod. I also did another capture today on a Sandslash :3 31/31/31/15/31/31 and male so I was pretty happy with it; now named Chilli! Not shiny though, couldn't be bothered with that today. x]

Cordelia
March 8th, 2012, 08:31 AM
http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/zombiekill1013/372333.jpg

Challenge #2: Prepare for Trouble! RNG a Pokemon used by Team Rocket!

greg0915
March 8th, 2012, 08:35 AM
Floony is a Drifblim, not Drifloon x] But thanks!

I tried fishing RNG today on Black and it's not working at all for me... Any tips? I want my Staryu! It just keeps saying nothing is biting at the rod. I also did another capture today on a Sandslash :3 31/31/31/15/31/31 and male so I was pretty happy with it; now named Chilli! Not shiny though, couldn't be bothered with that today. x]

I find that when fishing, if you don't get a bite then move off of the square that your on. e.g. move 2 spaces Up

It works for me ^_^

RingoH
March 8th, 2012, 09:05 AM
Awsome! Cause I want a Shiny Meowth anyway.... Although I might go for a different one [Maybe a Porygon...].

I failed at the first challenge because I was attempting to do my first wild encounter, although I was doing this in the trophy garden [in Diamond] so I didn't have wandering NPC's to deal with. I'm a little confused about encounter slots, I looked at the list for Diamond on eggmove.com but can not find Porygon in the trophy garden. How do the special Pokemon that the butler stocks the garden with get listed when trying to calculate frames? I really wanted a Porygon [part of why I'm thinking the team rocket challenge may be a Porygon].

I reset until Mr.Backlot said their was a porygon, then I walked into the garden and saved. I had a lead Pokemon at Level 18, and a pokemon with sweet scent. I also had repels so that I could walk in the grass to advance my frame. I ended up with an encounter slot with Roselia iinstead of my Porygon I had hoped for. [Did all my frame advances correctly, the nature/IV's and shiny that I was aiming for]. What do I do next time to ensure I get the species I am looking for? I understand that a given frame will always give the same species, I just need to know in the trophy garden who can I garentee this for next time?

Squirrel
March 8th, 2012, 09:06 AM
I find that when fishing, if you don't get a bite then move off of the square that your on. e.g. move 2 spaces Up

It works for me ^_^

Alright, I'll try that - thanks! As for the new challenge, I'm certainly RNGing a Koffing/Wheezing. It shall be non-shiny and be the perfect replica of James' <3 My favourite Pokemon from that serious!

greg0915
March 8th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Awsome! Cause I want a Shiny Meowth anyway.... Although I might go for a different one [Maybe a Porygon...].

I failed at the first challenge because I was attempting to do my first wild encounter, although I was doing this in the trophy garden [in Diamond] so I didn't have wandering NPC's to deal with. I'm a little confused about encounter slots, I looked at the list for Diamond on eggmove.com but can not find Porygon in the trophy garden. How do the special Pokemon that the butler stocks the garden with get listed when trying to calculate frames? I really wanted a Porygon [part of why I'm thinking the team rocket challenge may be a Porygon].

I reset until Mr.Backlot said their was a porygon, then I walked into the garden and saved. I had a lead Pokemon at Level 18, and a pokemon with sweet scent. I also had repels so that I could walk in the grass to advance my frame. I ended up with an encounter slot with Roselia iinstead of my Porygon I had hoped for. [Did all my frame advances correctly, the nature/IV's and shiny that I was aiming for]. What do I do next time to ensure I get the species I am looking for? I understand that a given frame will always give the same species, I just need to know in the trophy garden who can I garentee this for next time?

When RNG'ing in the Trophy Garden the current days pokemon (the one Mr.Backlot mentions) is always Encounter slot 6 and the previous days pokemon (the one Mr.Backlot mentioned the day before) is always Encounter slot 7.

RingoH
March 8th, 2012, 09:29 AM
When RNG'ing in the Trophy Garden the current days pokemon (the one Mr.Backlot mentions) is always Encounter slot 6 and the previous days pokemon (the one Mr.Backlot mentioned the day before) is always Encounter slot 7.

Thanks! I'll look forward to trying again tonight!

EB
March 8th, 2012, 09:39 AM
Oh, you're actually planning to use my challenges? Sweet! B]

I'll start the challenge as soon as I can; it'll be a little easier after tomorrow when my spring break starts. :cer_boogie:


(I'll invent more challenges for you when I'm feeling inspired...)

EDIT:

That sounded slightly conceited; let's try "when I have enough time to brainstorm." =p)

johnny18
March 8th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Challege completed
http://i32.tinypic.com/21bhph.pnghttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/24.pnghttp://i32.tinypic.com/21bhph.png
OT:Tevin l ID:28568
IVs: 31-31-31-x-31-31
Nature: Impish l Ability: Intimidate
Caught at Route 3


And also...okay, thanks for that johnny18 but if I were to find out my Sweet Scent frame advance by your example, still...how would you find out that you're in frame 47? And not only that, you'd advance your frames by any kind of way that's possible and consistent (maybe by calling Prof. Elm/Joey), right? And you'd also have to do 10 Prof. Elm calls after changing the system's time and date (if required) and also after waiting a minute to find out what seed you're in, right? And also...how would this RNG abuse actually work? (What are the steps?)
I know my frame by using encounter slot and IVs of the pokemon I catch. I have the feeling that you actually do not understand what I say at all. There is currently no guide for RNG in HGSS so you may need to read this guide http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_intro first before you ask anymore question. I know that this guide is for D/P/Pl but it applies to HGSS also no worries about it. If you have anymore questions after reading it, ask us either on here or trying to find a date so you can get on the chatroom ;)

Oh, you're actually planning to use my challenges? Sweet! B]

I'll start the challenge as soon as I can; it'll be a little easier after tomorrow when my spring break starts. :cer_boogie:


(I'll invent more challenges for you when I'm feeling inspired...)

EDIT:

That sounded slightly conceited; let's try "when I have enough time to brainstorm." =p)
Spring Break, hehehe you can talk with us more <3

Cordelia
March 8th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Oh, you're actually planning to use my challenges? Sweet! B]

I'll start the challenge as soon as I can; it'll be a little easier after tomorrow when my spring break starts. :cer_boogie:


(I'll invent more challenges for you when I'm feeling inspired...)

EDIT:

That sounded slightly conceited; let's try "when I have enough time to brainstorm." =p)

Well, I thought the Team Rocket thing was cool, you don't get to know what I think of all of them though! xD

Challenge completed!

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/aa/Jessie_Captures_Yanma.png

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/193.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Yanma ♀ Lv. 1
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Timid
Ability: Speed Boost
IVs: 31, 2, 31, 30, 30, 31 Ground 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, AncientPower, Hidden Power, Protect
Non-Redis

I really like this 'mon as it's very useful in battle and it's Jessie's, my favorite member of Team Rocket. It only saddens me that there were not any capture seeds with the IVs I wanted!

何贤豪
March 9th, 2012, 03:08 AM
So...you check the encounter slot of the Pokemon you caught that isn't the Pokemon you wanted to catch and put it into the RNG Reporter (maybe that's where you put it in) with the Pokemon's IVs to find what frame you landed on instead of the frame that you had to land on? (Sorry if I'm incorrect)
And also...about the current challenge. I can use Pokemon that Team Rocket temporarily had, right? Not just the ones that are currently with Team Rocket?

johnny18
March 9th, 2012, 06:10 AM
So...you check the encounter slot of the Pokemon you caught that isn't the Pokemon you wanted to catch and put it into the RNG Reporter (maybe that's where you put it in) with the Pokemon's IVs to find what frame you landed on instead of the frame that you had to land on? (Sorry if I'm incorrect)
And also...about the current challenge. I can use Pokemon that Team Rocket temporarily had, right? Not just the ones that are currently with Team Rocket?
Yes, that's what it is except that you only need to put your seed on the main reporter's box where it says "Seed (Hex)." It will show you all the frames that you may get starting from frame one. For the challenge, I think Mac may say yes so pick whatever mon you want to RNG as long as they are or used to be in Team Rocket. :)

Cordelia
March 9th, 2012, 06:10 AM
So...you check the encounter slot of the Pokemon you caught that isn't the Pokemon you wanted to catch and put it into the RNG Reporter (maybe that's where you put it in) with the Pokemon's IVs to find what frame you landed on instead of the frame that you had to land on? (Sorry if I'm incorrect)
And also...about the current challenge. I can use Pokemon that Team Rocket temporarily had, right? Not just the ones that are currently with Team Rocket?

You check it against what RNG reporter says, yes that is correct. Usually you'll be right around your target and you just adjust your calls from there.

And yes, you may use a Pokemon that was temporarily used by Team Rocket. If you want, even include a picture like I did! Makes it more fun, I think. xD

johnny18
March 9th, 2012, 06:14 AM
Challenge completed!

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Yanma ♀ Lv. 1
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Timid
Ability: Speed Boost
IVs: 31, 2, 31, 30, 30, 31 Ground 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, AncientPower, Hidden Power, Protect
Non-Redis
Jesse has a yanmega, not yanma. Wrong pic lol

Cordelia
March 9th, 2012, 06:21 AM
Jesse has a yanmega, not yanma. Wrong pic lol

That's what I get for being tired all the time! Thanks Johnny for pointing that out. I found a picture on Bulbapedia that had Jessie capturing Yanma (even though she's not pictured). So that'll do for now, I guess... even though I bred it D:

何贤豪
March 9th, 2012, 06:32 AM
Okay...but still, where would you put the information (Encounter slot and IVs, like what I said above)?
And also...if you got a seed from PokeRNG, if you were to use that seed, you would just put the seed on the main screen (the one with the method options), choose how the Pokemon's generated (method 1 or any other method), click Generate, hit the delay and time that you have to hit, advance the frames and then find the Pokemon you like to catch...right?
Secondly, I kinda already asked this, but I'll just say this again. How do you RNG Wonder Card Pokemon? I guess it's like most other RNG abuses...just get the seed you'd like to hit, get the Wonder Card, go to the Poke Mart to get the Pokemon you'd like later on, save, turn off, change the time to your target time - 1 full minute - the seconds, hit the right target time & delay, advance the frames, collect the Pokemon, check whether you got the result you wanted and if you got what you wanted, you're done. I'm sure I'm wrong (a bit). And I have an idea for two challenges...how about...
1. RNG a Pokemon owned by Ash and his friends (the list: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash%27s_friends)
2. RNG a Pokemon that was temporarily owned by someone (anyone's fine)

Cordelia
March 9th, 2012, 07:15 PM
Okay...but still, where would you put the information (Encounter slot and IVs, like what I said above)?
And also...if you got a seed from PokeRNG, if you were to use that seed, you would just put the seed on the main screen (the one with the method options), choose how the Pokemon's generated (method 1 or any other method), click Generate, hit the delay and time that you have to hit, advance the frames and then find the Pokemon you like to catch...right?
Secondly, I kinda already asked this, but I'll just say this again. How do you RNG Wonder Card Pokemon? I guess it's like most other RNG abuses...just get the seed you'd like to hit, get the Wonder Card, go to the Poke Mart to get the Pokemon you'd like later on, save, turn off, change the time to your target time - 1 full minute - the seconds, hit the right target time & delay, advance the frames, collect the Pokemon, check whether you got the result you wanted and if you got what you wanted, you're done. I'm sure I'm wrong (a bit). And I have an idea for two challenges...how about...
1. RNG a Pokemon owned by Ash and his friends (the list: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash%27s_friends)
2. RNG a Pokemon that was temporarily owned by someone (anyone's fine)

You really should read the guide Johnny posted a few times, it'll help you with a lot of the questions you're having. I've found it very useful myself. And I don't know how to RNG wondercards for 4th generation games.

Also, I like your ideas for challenges! Thanks a lot for submitting them.

이큐리
March 9th, 2012, 07:17 PM
I completed the challenge, but instead of a specific Pokémon I did my trainer ID/SID for Pearl to get a few flawless shiny seeds. Pearl is the first game I learned to RNG on and it was the game that got me back into Pokémon after Emerald.


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Rue | 16561

Cordelia
March 9th, 2012, 08:12 PM
I'm going to admit that for the first challenge since I know for a fact that you did it before the deadline. Just next time make sure you post before it expires!

My two latest RNG abuses:

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Kanani (Oddish) ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Modest
Ability: Chlorophyll
IVs: 31, 2, 31, 30, 31, 30 Fire 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Absorb, Teeter Dance, Synthesis, Worry Seed
Non-Redis

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Ponyta ♂ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Naive
Ability: Flash Fire
IVs: 30, 31, 31, 30, 31, 31 Grass 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Horn Drill, Hypnosis, Morning Sun
Non-Redis

These were both BPs ^^ woot, I'm glad I got them both done today.

이큐리
March 9th, 2012, 08:42 PM
I'm going to admit that for the first challenge since I know for a fact that you did it before the deadline. Just next time make sure you post before it expires!

My two latest RNG abuses:

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Kanani (Oddish) ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Modest
Ability: Chlorophyll
IVs: 31, 2, 31, 30, 31, 30 Fire 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Absorb, Teeter Dance, Synthesis, Worry Seed
Non-Redis

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Ponyta ♂ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Naive
Ability: Flash Fire
IVs: 30, 31, 31, 30, 31, 31 Grass 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Horn Drill, Hypnosis, Morning Sun
Non-Redis

These were both BPs ^^ woot, I'm glad I got them both done today.
Tehehe. I will next time. x]

Nice RNGs. After I'm done with all my legends on all my 4th gen I'm going to move on to breeding/captures. xD I'm so behind right now. D:

Cordelia
March 9th, 2012, 08:44 PM
Tehehe. I will next time. x]

Nice RNGs. After I'm done with all my legends on all my 4th gen I'm going to move on to breeding/captures. xD I'm so behind right now. D:

You better! You've got a lot to learn still, young lady. :3

이큐리
March 9th, 2012, 08:48 PM
You better! You've got a lot to learn still, young lady. :3
I already know how to do them so, no, not really.

Cordelia
March 9th, 2012, 08:49 PM
I already know how to do them so, no, not really.

You know I was trolling ya ;) It'll be a lot easier now I bet!

何贤豪
March 9th, 2012, 10:04 PM
Well, I think I should read the guide (which I have, but I still don't really understand)...but still, there are some differences from HGSS RNG abuse and DPPt RNG abuse...like the absence of the Journal, the absence of the Poketch...and I'd rather read small things rather than a big ton of stuff that I don't even understand.

Sorry if this would just bring more problems...but that's me.

johnny18
March 9th, 2012, 11:40 PM
Well, I think I should read the guide (which I have, but I still don't really understand)...but still, there are some differences from HGSS RNG abuse and DPPt RNG abuse...like the absence of the Journal, the absence of the Poketch...and I'd rather read small things rather than a big ton of stuff that I don't even understand.

Sorry if this would just bring more problems...but that's me.
Based on what you post so far, I think that the small things that you try to read are the things that you understand the most so I think you need to focus on the big stuffs that you do not understand. Trying to study the differences will be pointless if you do not understand similar comcept of RNG in HGSS and D/P/Pl. Not trying to be mean, just want to give you advice. :)

何贤豪
March 10th, 2012, 01:41 AM
Okay, I think I'll take that in mind...
And I saw a page that made me understand about the whole Sweet Scent thing...and also gets me confused again.
It's this page: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/appendix_sweetscent
I looked it up and what got me confused was on finding your frame based on what Pokemon you encountered and also on finding your Actual Frame. How do you find your Actual Frame and how would you find your frame based on what Pokemon you encountered (would this link to finding your Actual Frame?) This is confusing for me...and I guess you'll just ask me to look up the page again.

EB
March 10th, 2012, 08:43 AM
Finished the challenge! (Finally...)

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Yamask http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png| Level: 19
OT: eb | ID: 46682 | Game: White
Nature: Bold | Ability: Mummy | IVs: 31 31 31 31 31 31
EVs: Untrained | HP: Dark - 70
Disable | Haze | Night Shade | Hex
Non-Redis

=

Did my best to find a Unova Pokémon--seeing as I've only been RNGing in Gen5--and this was the one I had available. (Also ironically a contender for my party, as I restarted my game for Tepig.)

johnny18
March 10th, 2012, 08:53 AM
Okay, I think I'll take that in mind...
And I saw a page that made me understand about the whole Sweet Scent thing...and also gets me confused again.
It's this page: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/appendix_sweetscent
I looked it up and what got me confused was on finding your frame based on what Pokemon you encountered and also on finding your Actual Frame. How do you find your Actual Frame and how would you find your frame based on what Pokemon you encountered (would this link to finding your Actual Frame?) This is confusing for me...and I guess you'll just ask me to look up the page again.

This is for all Wild Pokemon Encounters, not just ones brought about by sweet scent. First you must know the frame of the spread you encountered. You must also know the "Actual Frame" of the spread you encountered. The Actual Frame of a spread is the frame of the spread in Method 1. To find your current frame after the encounter, you must take the Actual Frame of the spread and add 6. That is your current frame.

*sign* It is in there but do not worry about it. This guide is an old one and we are not going to advance this way since it requires you to encounter a pokemon. Just do what you do, hit delays, advance the frame. That's all you need to know.

Finished the challenge! (Finally...)

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c5/James_and_Yamask.png/200px-James_and_Yamask.png

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Yamask http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png| Level: 19
OT: eb | ID: 46682 | Game: White
Nature: Bold | Ability: Mummy | IVs: 31 31 31 31 31 31
EVs: Untrained | HP: Dark - 70
Disable | Haze | Night Shade | Hex
Non-Redis

=

Did my best to find a Unova Pokémon--seeing as I've only been RNGing in Gen5--and this was the one I had available. (Also ironically a contender for my party, as I restarted my game for Tepig.)

Yay, gimme gimme gimme :D. Congrats anyway

EB
March 10th, 2012, 09:54 AM
Oh and Mac, your OP has the current challenge still marked as "Challenge #1." @_@

Cordelia
March 10th, 2012, 10:26 AM
Finished the challenge! (Finally...)

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c5/James_and_Yamask.png/200px-James_and_Yamask.png

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Yamask http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png| Level: 19
OT: eb | ID: 46682 | Game: White
Nature: Bold | Ability: Mummy | IVs: 31 31 31 31 31 31
EVs: Untrained | HP: Dark - 70
Disable | Haze | Night Shade | Hex
Non-Redis

=

Did my best to find a Unova Pokémon--seeing as I've only been RNGing in Gen5--and this was the one I had available. (Also ironically a contender for my party, as I restarted my game for Tepig.)


It's about damn time xD Congratulations! I think soon you will truly get a handle on this ;)

Oh and Mac, your OP has the current challenge still marked as "Challenge #1." @_@

Oh, I uhh... fixed that. Sorry.

Lilith
March 10th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Hey, lovelies. I'd like to join. :)

Stellar job to everyone trying to perform a feat beyond the casual gaming experience, stellar job to everyone successfully getting their desired target, and stellar job to everyone helping each other out.

In response to earth boy the other day!
I've been Googling and I think I've gone through at least three different guides by now, trying to find out how RNGing actually works. All the guides I've read only seem to talk about what the individual needs to do to get their proper Pokémon; they never seem to explain how they game processes the information we feed it to give us the results we're looking for.

I think that if we did more to elaborate this, more people would be able to grasp the entire picture, maybe even without other forms of communication outside of text. Without this information, they'll just dive in, mess things up, and start bombarding others with noob questions about why they didn't get their flawless shiny legendary. (And we all know we've been guilty of similar issues.) By giving examples of mistakes and how the game responds in patterns during such mistakes, we could also help explain to people how the game spat out the results it did--ultimately narrowing down the possible things the person messed up on.

This way they don't have to restart, praying they get every single little detail on the bulls-eye, without even really knowing what went wrong. They'll be able to pinpoint the human error and eliminate it within the first few tries, knowing full well that none of the other elements were the issue. All this is really offering is just the proper means of practice; if the individual was without a clue as to what went wrong, if they're smart they'll end up looking for the thing that caused their problem: they'll try to control all but one function and fluctuate that one while the others remain fixed. If that wasn't it, they'll do so with another function, ultimately leading to a ridiculously grueling process of trial and error.

If you get what I'm saying, does anyone else agree with this? Or have I simply been looking in the wrong places, where the game's processing hasn't been addressed?
When I posted, I didn't mean specifically all the algorithms and numbers associated with how the game works, just specific patterns that the game goes through that give just the right amount of evidence we need to say, "Oh, you forgot to do [x]" or "this was off by [x] amount," etc.

I completely agree that going through the game coding would be ridiculously tiresome and very few people would have the patience to read such a document to begin with. But if we can categorize specific mistakes, noobs like myself will have the evidence in front of them they need, informing them what specifically went wrong--even if they're still overwhelmed.

I kinda get what you're saying. People have different learning styles, true! There are whole-part learners (big picture then details) and part-whole learners (details then big picture).

However, I don't think any guides are taking interest in illustrating the big picture first because... All a beginner has to do is perform the steps. Only certain actions (e.g. journal flipping, app tapping, withdrawing, chatot listening) will accurately and consistently advance the IV RNG or the PID RNG. Only certain actions optimize the program. If the beginner isn't going step by step or is sidetracking from the guide, then he/she will encounter many problems. RNG abuse is pretty simple that if a beginner is describing everything, someone (experienced) can pinpoint what error the beginner is committing. Are you proposing an already-made FAQ saying "if you're doing this and you're getting this, you're error is ___" ? Maybe that can be in the works...

One could explain what's going on in the game. One could clarify every term or every concept. (The guides are overwhelming enough with the steps...) Even so, I often find that firsthand experience (mistakes included) are better ways for someone to learn something. I know that those who dived into RNG abused forgot really simple things (such as the MAC Address). It was already established in (at least my) guides that you gotta keep track of the unique MAC address. Oh boy, after an hour of failing at finding the parameters only to discover he's using the MAC address of the other DS, he sure didn't forget such a little detail ever again.

We just stress that beginners read everything and let the process sink in first. Try it out first. Yes, if it's taking forever with no results, they can gladly ask anyone for help.

Also, I don't use the term noob. You're all kittens! Soft... warm... cute... cuddly... You will grow up to be even more beautiful some day.

Hope this helped anyone in some way.

Cordelia
March 10th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Hi Blade! Thanks for joining B) Your expertise is always most desired here so I hope this wasn't a one and done kind of deal. I hope to see some RNGs from you whenever you feel up to it. Welcome!

이큐리
March 10th, 2012, 06:32 PM
These aren't for the challenge, but eh.
CP for twisted and the new events. I have a lot more wondercards to RNG. I don't know what natures yet.


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Antoinette the Petilil ♀ | Level 19
Timid | Chlorophyll | 31 19 30 30 31 30
Sleep Powder | Mega Drain | Synthesis | Magical Leaf
Amelia | 13101

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Reshiram | Level 100
Timid | Turboblaze | 31 13 31 31 31 31
Blue Flare | Fusion Flare | Mist | Draco Meteor
SPR2012 | 0310

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Zekrom | Level 100
Jolly | Teravolt | 31 31 31 1 31 31
Bolt Strike | Fusion Bolt | Haze | Outrage
SPR2012 | 03102

Cordelia
March 10th, 2012, 06:51 PM
I'll say it here as well -- nice RNGs, Meli! I have a few to do, not as many as you of course. On my Black I still have V-Create Victini, Mewtwo, and now Zekrom to do. Can't be bothered to do 5th gen right now. :(

이큐리
March 10th, 2012, 06:54 PM
I'll say it here as well -- nice RNGs, Meli! I have a few to do, not as many as you of course. On my Black I still have V-Create Victini, Mewtwo, and now Zekrom to do. Can't be bothered to do 5th gen right now. :(
5th gen is too easy anyway. xD I'm going back to Diamond and Pearl now. I just wanted to do the events and twisted's CP. 4th gen forever. <3

Cordelia
March 10th, 2012, 08:11 PM
5th gen is too easy anyway. xD I'm going back to Diamond and Pearl now. I just wanted to do the events and twisted's CP. 4th gen forever. <3

OK, it is too easy. I forgot that I didn't pick up Mewtwo yet for White but I decided to keep it. I did both of these in five minutes.

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Mewtwo ♁ Lv. 70
OT: FEB2012 | ID: 2112
Nature: Naive
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball
Non-Redis

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Reshiram ♁ Lv. 100
OT: SPR2012 | ID: 3102
Nature: Naive
Ability: Turboblaze
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Blue Flare, Fusion Flare, Mist, Draco Meteor
Non-Redis

이큐리
March 11th, 2012, 03:26 AM
OK, it is too easy. I forgot that I didn't pick up Mewtwo yet for White but I decided to keep it. I did both of these in five minutes.

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Mewtwo ♁ Lv. 70
OT: FEB2012 | ID: 2112
Nature: Naive
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball
Non-Redis

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Reshiram ♁ Lv. 100
OT: SPR2012 | ID: 3102
Nature: Naive
Ability: Turboblaze
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Blue Flare, Fusion Flare, Mist, Draco Meteor
Non-Redis
I'm getting Japanese Heart Gold in April. ;D Can't wait to RNG my ID on it and get shinies.

何贤豪
March 11th, 2012, 06:09 AM
Actually, I know that it's for any Wild Pokemon encounter. And I pretty much know that I don't have to advance frames using this method...I know you'd ask..."Why would you put it in here when you know you don't want to use this way to advance frames?" I kinda just put it up instantly, I guess. Well, so to RNG the Pokemon I'd like...I would hit a certain time and delay, do some Prof. Elm calls to check whether I got the time and delay (but mostly delay) correct and if I didn't get it right, I'd start again. Advance frames after finding out that it's correct (would you have to subtract the number of frames you'd have to go through with the number of Prof. Elm calls that I did? Because 1 Prof. Elm call advances the frame by 1. And also...I would also have to subtract the frame's number by 1, right?), walk around until you encounter a Pokemon (assuming that I won't use Sweet Scent, otherwise I'd have to go through a calculation that is time-consuming and confusing), catch the Pokemon (unless if the Pokemon you encountered isn't the species you'd like), check whether the IVs are correct and you're done (unless if the IVs are incorrect)..right?

Cordelia
March 11th, 2012, 07:41 AM
Actually, I know that it's for any Wild Pokemon encounter. And I pretty much know that I don't have to advance frames using this method...I know you'd ask..."Why would you put it in here when you know you don't want to use this way to advance frames?" I kinda just put it up instantly, I guess. Well, so to RNG the Pokemon I'd like...I would hit a certain time and delay, do some Prof. Elm calls to check whether I got the time and delay (but mostly delay) correct and if I didn't get it right, I'd start again. Advance frames after finding out that it's correct (would you have to subtract the number of frames you'd have to go through with the number of Prof. Elm calls that I did? Because 1 Prof. Elm call advances the frame by 1. And also...I would also have to subtract the frame's number by 1, right?), walk around until you encounter a Pokemon (assuming that I won't use Sweet Scent, otherwise I'd have to go through a calculation that is time-consuming and confusing), catch the Pokemon (unless if the Pokemon you encountered isn't the species you'd like), check whether the IVs are correct and you're done (unless if the IVs are incorrect)..right?

The new RNG reporter makes using Sweet Scent a lot easier, so you need to go ahead and do that. You use Elm Calls to verify your seed, yes, that is correct. You can paste your seed hex into the main screen of RNG reporter and choose Method K (HGSS) and then hit generate. This will show you the elm responses all the way up to your target frame. Keep on calling elm until you are one below your target frame and then use sweet scent. You should get the Pokemon that you desire.

For example, if your pokemon is on frame 20, you would need to call Elm until you are on frame 19. Then you use Sweet Scent and your Pokemon appears.

Good luck.

loucas
March 11th, 2012, 11:27 AM
oh, so that's how you do it, i'm gonna rng my kyogre in HG and Groudon in SS

oocyst
March 11th, 2012, 12:17 PM
I FINALLY got my challenge mon done, it took so long omg everything was trolling me

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Cacnea ♂
Sand Veil|Adamant|NNable
31|31|31|17|31|31
Leer|Low Kick|Seed Bomb|Sucker Punch

Zekrom is up next and that will be way easier ;;

EDIT:

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http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/cherishball.pngZekrom ♁
Teravolt|lvl. 100|Naughty|
31|31|31|31|31|30
Bolt Strike|Fusion Bolt|Haze|Outrage
Non Redis

This is like my fastest RNG ever lol

loucas
March 11th, 2012, 12:44 PM
oops, don't have my SID for HG and SS, ha ha

goona try to do the challenge. :)

done with my

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/150.png

Mewtwo Lv. 70
OT: FEB2012 | ID: 2112
Nature: Timid
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 25, 31, 31, 30, 31
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball

Cordelia
March 11th, 2012, 02:09 PM
Cleared out my 5th gen wondercards on Black and White today... and I did a BP on white. This is my haul...

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/494.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Victini ♁ Lv. 50
OT: Movie14 | ID: 12031
Nature: Quiet
Ability: Victory Star
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 2 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: V-create, Fusion Flare, Fusion Bolt, Searing Shot
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/644.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Zekrom ♁ Lv. 100
OT: SPR2012 | ID: 3102
Nature: Naive
Ability: Teravolt
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Bolt Strike, Fusion Bolt, Haze, Outrage
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/150.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Mewtwo ♁ Lv. 70
OT: FEB2012 | ID: 2112
Nature: Timid
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 0, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/636.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Larvesta ♂ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Scotty | ID: 4730
Nature: Timid
Ability: Flame Body
IVs: 30, 2, 31, 31, 30, 30 Rock 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Ember, String Shot, Morning Sun, ***
Non-Redis

Enough 5th gen RNG for now. Keep up the great RNGs everyone and don't forget that the challenge expires in less than six hours now!

EB
March 11th, 2012, 02:47 PM
Just another 'mon for my party ^-^:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4b/Bag_Net_Ball_Sprite.png http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t433/earth_boy/616.gif http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4b/Bag_Net_Ball_Sprite.png
Shelmet http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level: 30
OT: eb | ID: 46682 | Game: White
Nature: Modest | Ability: Shell Armor | 31 31 31 31 31 31
EVs: Untrained | HP: Dark - 70
Struggle Bug | Mega Drain | Yawn | Protect
Non-Redis

=

I think I might start abusing Gen4 soon; any tips to keep myself from ripping my hair out?

Cordelia
March 11th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Just another 'mon for my party ^-^:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4b/Bag_Net_Ball_Sprite.png http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t433/earth_boy/616.gif http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4b/Bag_Net_Ball_Sprite.png
Shelmet http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level: 30
OT: eb | ID: 46682 | Game: White
Nature: Modest | Ability: Shell Armor | 31 31 31 31 31 31
EVs: Untrained | HP: Dark - 70
Struggle Bug | Mega Drain | Yawn | Protect
Non-Redis

=

I think I might start abusing Gen4 soon; any techniques to keep myself from ripping the rest of my hair out?

You might need a tutor for that. Going from 5th to 4th can be difficult on your own... trust me, I know. I taught myself :( Also, love EonTimer... it is now your new best friend.

RingoH
March 11th, 2012, 04:54 PM
I'm getting down to the wire on this one, but clocking in still by the deadline.. *whew*.

First off, as I stated previously my goal for this challenge was a Porygon from the trophy garden. I felt it would be easy for my first wild RNG because of the lack of NPC's to mess up the frames on me. I also wanted this to be in a premier ball... I realized once I was facing it though.... that OOPS, I forgot my false swiper, and I only had one Premier Ball... but I still got it. Boy do I feel accomplished... Thanks for all the help everyone who helped me with this one. I think I still prefer breeding, but it's nice to know I can do the wild encounters now as well.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsa/dpmfsa137.png


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #137 Porygon (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=938919) ♁ (level 18) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png RINGO ♂ (Diamond, 18496/26653)
Modest - Trace - 20/19/22/18/22/26 - Untrained
Sharpen - Psybeam - Agility - Recover

Hidden Power - Fighting 69

Cordelia
March 11th, 2012, 07:02 PM
I'm getting down to the wire on this one, but clocking in still by the deadline.. *whew*.

First off, as I stated previously my goal for this challenge was a Porygon from the trophy garden. I felt it would be easy for my first wild RNG because of the lack of NPC's to mess up the frames on me. I also wanted this to be in a premier ball... I realized once I was facing it though.... that OOPS, I forgot my false swiper, and I only had one Premier Ball... but I still got it. Boy do I feel accomplished... Thanks for all the help everyone who helped me with this one. I think I still prefer breeding, but it's nice to know I can do the wild encounters now as well.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsa/dpmfsa137.png


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #137 Porygon (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=938919) ♁ (level 18) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png RINGO ♂ (Diamond, 18496/26653)
Modest - Trace - 20/19/22/18/22/26 - Untrained
Sharpen - Psybeam - Agility - Recover

Hidden Power - Fighting 69


Looks good -- congratulations. I had to think a bit about Porygon and Team Rocket, but in the original games it was a gift at the Rocket Game Corner and Bulbapedia notes that this could indicate possible Team Rocket involvement. Accepted ;)

I will be granting a three hour extension on this challenge in hopes that more people will be able to complete it! This challenge is up at 3am UTC-4 on March 12, 2012.

이큐리
March 11th, 2012, 09:53 PM
Here's my challenge entry. Breeding in HGSS was pretty similar to DPPt. Trying a shiny one next time.


http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/108.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Gaius (Lickitung) ♂ | Level 1 | http://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png
Adamant | Own Tempo | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Lick | *** | *** | ***
Cyrene | 4014

何贤豪
March 12th, 2012, 01:12 AM
... ... ...Actually, I think I should do 18, not 19 (if my frame's 20). It's to prevent going too much if my Sweet Scent advances the frame by 2 instead of 1. Actually, if you encounter a wild Pokemon, would your current frame increase?

Squirrel
March 12th, 2012, 02:39 AM
I managed to get the challenge done! I'm not certain whether or not it's on time, but I bred a Koffing. Non-shiny, flawless IVs, no interesting moves... So yeah, that's done! And I named it Jamesy <3 Still haven't managed to get to grips with rod abuse though - nothing bites even after trying what Greg said D:

Cordelia
March 12th, 2012, 04:13 AM
... ... ...Actually, I think I should do 18, not 19 (if my frame's 20). It's to prevent going too much if my Sweet Scent advances the frame by 2 instead of 1. Actually, if you encounter a wild Pokemon, would your current frame increase?

If you do that you won't get your Pokemon. Go to frame 19 then sweet scent.

I managed to get the challenge done! I'm not certain whether or not it's on time, but I bred a Koffing. Non-shiny, flawless IVs, no interesting moves... So yeah, that's done! And I named it Jamesy <3 Still haven't managed to get to grips with rod abuse though - nothing bites even after trying what Greg said D:

Sorry Ozzy, a bit too late :( I extended to 3am but you were about 3 and a half hours too late.

Challenge #3: RNG a Pokemon that gained an evolution/baby form in a future generation!

EDIT: Well, looks like I'm first this time xD Challenge completed!

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/41.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Zubat ♀ Lv. 1
OT: Mac | ID: 36152
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Inner Focus
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Brave Bird, Tailwind, Roost, Super Fang
Non-Redis

RingoH
March 12th, 2012, 08:54 AM
Looks good -- congratulations. I had to think a bit about Porygon and Team Rocket, but in the original games it was a gift at the Rocket Game Corner and Bulbapedia notes that this could indicate possible Team Rocket involvement. Accepted ;)



I was going by the plot line of "Electric Soldier Pokemon" as described on Bulbapedia:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP038

as well as the list of Pokemon used by Jessie as listed on Bulbapedia [Jessie being my favorite team rocket member].

Although since the episode was never aired outside of Japan, I do like your logic on allowing Porygon much better than using the episode plot line.

On to the third challenge...
Hmmm... Tough Choice... The Fairy Egg Group is my favorite, and many of them have gained a baby evolution later... Hmmm... So are we supposed to RNG the original Pokemon, or the baby form? I'm thinking between Pikachu, Cleffairy, and Chansey right now [even though I did a Chansey recently... I think I want to try to catch one with a Lucky Egg]

Question:
Is there a way to RNG a held item? Is this somehow related to encounter slots, or is this an aspect of RNG we can't predict?

johnny18
March 12th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Question:
Is there a way to RNG a held item? Is this somehow related to encounter slots, or is this an aspect of RNG we can't predict?
I think that depends on the PID. Certain PID gives you pokemon that holding items.
I miss so many stuffs T_T

RingoH
March 12th, 2012, 10:57 AM
I think that depends on the PID. Certain PID gives you pokemon that holding items.
I miss so many stuffs T_T

Ok... If that is true. RNG Reporter tells us the PID for the Pokemon we're going for, do we have a way of knowing if that PID would result in a Pokemon with a held item? I assume it would be more complicated because, if we look at say Chansey as an example:
50% of her hold an oval stone.
5% hold a Lucky Egg
The remaining 45% hold nothing.

:-( I wonder if I just need to keep catching her over and over till I find that Lucky Egg.

Cordelia
March 12th, 2012, 11:51 AM
You can RNG the baby Pokemon or the original Pokemon, Ringo. And I know research is being done on held items... but I don't think it's complete.

Squirrel
March 12th, 2012, 12:36 PM
Challenge #3: RNG a Pokemon that gained an evolution/baby form in a future generation!

EDIT: Well, looks like I'm first this time xD Challenge completed!

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/41.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png

Congrats on your RNG! And I've actually done this one on time! Time to finally present it in the classic way;

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/006.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/215.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/006.png
Sneasel ♀ Lv. 48
OT: Ozzy
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 30, 31, 31
EVs: UT
Moves: Beat Up, Slash, Hone Claws, Icy Wind

I love the Giant Chasm, NPCs can go to hell. <3

johnny18
March 12th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Ok... If that is true. RNG Reporter tells us the PID for the Pokemon we're going for, do we have a way of knowing if that PID would result in a Pokemon with a held item? I assume it would be more complicated because, if we look at say Chansey as an example:
50% of her hold an oval stone.
5% hold a Lucky Egg
The remaining 45% hold nothing.

:-( I wonder if I just need to keep catching her over and over till I find that Lucky Egg.
Catching her over then. RNG just to get a held item does not worth it.



Congrats on your RNG! And I've actually done this one on time! Time to finally present it in the classic way;

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/006.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/215.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/006.png
Sneasel ♀ Lv. 48
OT: Ozzy
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 30, 31, 31
EVs: UT
Moves: Beat Up, Slash, Hone Claws, Icy Wind

I love the Giant Chasm, NPCs can go to hell. <3
zzzzzz, try to do somewhere else, you pick the easiest place to RNG. Shame one you ozzy lol JK

oocyst
March 12th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Aaaaand I did this third challenge while bathing but I was doing stuff wrong lol

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/458.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pngMantyke ♂
Water Absorb|lvl. 35|Calm
31|7|31|31|31|31
Agility|Wing Attack|Water Pulse|Take Down

This is such a bad pokemon with good potential :(

Lilith
March 12th, 2012, 10:28 PM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/113.gif http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/242.gif
OT: HAZEL ID: 37074
Bold | Natural Cure
Pound, Seismic Toss, Counter, Aromatherapy
31 | 19 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
Bred on a retail Emerald cart
Oh my fudge on a stick!@^T)^YY^T))W#$ I've easily invested at least 10 hours into this blob! Have an egg of happiness at the expense of my sanity! :0

Cordelia
March 13th, 2012, 03:08 AM
Congrats on your RNG! And I've actually done this one on time! Time to finally present it in the classic way;

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/006.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/215.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/006.png
Sneasel ♀ Lv. 48
OT: Ozzy
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 30, 31, 31
EVs: UT
Moves: Beat Up, Slash, Hone Claws, Icy Wind

I love the Giant Chasm, NPCs can go to hell. <3

Nice capture, Ozzy. I agree, NPCs can go to hell! :P They troll me really bad in Platinum when I'm trying to do my flips xD

Aaaaand I did this third challenge while bathing but I was doing stuff wrong lol

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/458.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pngMantyke ♂
Water Absorb|lvl. 35|Calm
31|7|31|31|31|31
Agility|Wing Attack|Water Pulse|Take Down

This is such a bad pokemon with good potential :(

Nice capture :) Gotta love those dive balls ;)

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/113.gif http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/242.gif
OT: HAZEL ID: 37074
Bold | Natural Cure
Pound, Seismic Toss, Counter, Aromatherapy
31 | 19 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
Bred on a retail Emerald cart
Oh my fudge on a stick!@^T)^YY^T))W#$ I've easily invested at least 10 hours into this blob! Have an egg of happiness at the expense of my sanity! :0

Holy crap, Blade! You got her! Congratulations!!!!! You are most definitely our heroine!

ShadowE
March 13th, 2012, 06:47 AM
Hi guys, im new to the RNG stuff and so, but im a quick learner and soon i got a RNG'd poke (actually i got already one, Roggenrola, but i seem to cant find it atm)

Squirrel
March 13th, 2012, 07:45 AM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/113.gif http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/242.gif
OT: HAZEL ID: 37074
Bold | Natural Cure
Pound, Seismic Toss, Counter, Aromatherapy
31 | 19 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
Bred on a retail Emerald cart
Oh my fudge on a stick!@^T)^YY^T))W#$ I've easily invested at least 10 hours into this blob! Have an egg of happiness at the expense of my sanity! :0

Nice one Blade, I'm impressed! It's about time, 10 hours gosh xD I could never do an RNG that long!

Keiran
March 13th, 2012, 09:07 AM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/355.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #355 Duskull (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=953829) ♀ Lv.10 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/576.png
OT: Dylan ♂ | ID: 35637
Calm - Levitate
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Night Shade - Disable - Foresight - Trick

Can I join the club? ^current challenge. Finally a reason to capture a cute Duskull. :3

loucas
March 13th, 2012, 01:56 PM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/113.gif http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/242.gif
OT: HAZEL ID: 37074
Bold | Natural Cure
Pound, Seismic Toss, Counter, Aromatherapy
31 | 19 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
Bred on a retail Emerald cart
Oh my fudge on a stick!@^T)^YY^T))W#$ I've easily invested at least 10 hours into this blob! Have an egg of happiness at the expense of my sanity! :0

CONGRATS BLADE! you made it :) this is a pretty one :)

Horizon
March 13th, 2012, 02:55 PM
Hi guys,

I just started trying to RNG on Generation 5, and I'm trying to get a flawless Naughty Zekrom on White, using a DS Lite. As far as i can gather I'm doing everything right, doing by the book, starting my game a second before the target time, have a Naughty synchronizer, two Chatot etc:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5642/rngp.png

But I'm getting IVs of 22 - 23 / 26 - 27 / 0 - 1 / 24 - 25 / 22 - 23 / 6 - 7 everytime. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong?

loucas
March 13th, 2012, 04:03 PM
i did the challenge too :)

i went for
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/42.png
GOLBAT
Adamant
30/31/31/30/X/X

forgot everything else.
oh, it's on a duskball i think

Cordelia
March 13th, 2012, 04:09 PM
Hi guys,

I just started trying to RNG on Generation 5, and I'm trying to get a flawless Naughty Zekrom on White, using a DS Lite. As far as i can gather I'm doing everything right, doing by the book, starting my game a second before the target time, have a Naughty synchronizer, two Chatot etc:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5642/rngp.png

But I'm getting IVs of 22 - 23 / 26 - 27 / 0 - 1 / 24 - 25 / 22 - 23 / 6 - 7 everytime. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong?

You are most likely hitting your other Timer0. Have you tried to change your parameters to the other Timer0 and find a new seed on that? Also, go to 5th gen tools, then Adjacent Seed Tool. Your parameters show up there. Enter your Min/Max Timer0. e.g. C7F and C80 or whatever. Enter the date and time of your seed and hit generate. You can match up the IVs there on that chart. B)

loucas
March 13th, 2012, 04:37 PM
i did Zekrom! :)

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/644.png
Lv.100
OT:SPR2012
03102
Jolly
31/31/31/31/31/31

earlier date though than the release.
nah, i don't intend to distribute it anyways.

i did liberty garden Victini too.
but i don't feel posting him.

Sydian
March 13th, 2012, 07:09 PM
Hi guys! Over the course of two days, I learned how to RNG in gen V with help from Trade Corner lovelies. <3 This is my 4th and latest RNG, and also my first flawless shiny. :) It took a long time and I'm very happy now that I've got him...though, he's not gonna evolve, cause he'll turn purple.

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/582.gif
Sorbet / Vanillite (m) lv. 21
Timid | Ice Body | UT
OT: Cedric 26099
31/31/31/31/31/31 HP Dark 70
[ Icy Wind, Avalanche, Uproar, Mist ]

:)

Other stuff I got today but with terrible IVs:
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/546.gif
Autumn / Cottonee

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/562.gif
Dyslexicon / Yamask

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/605.gif
Accident / Elygem
(this one really was an accident...I was going for Litwick lol)

SO. With all that being said, I'd like to join in the club fun. :)

Cordelia
March 13th, 2012, 07:40 PM
Welcome, Sydian! It's really nice to see you here after talking to you in chat the last few days. I'm glad that we were able to help you out. Congratulations once again on all of your beautiful abuses! Keep up the great work :)

twistedpuppy
March 13th, 2012, 09:40 PM
I said I wasn't gonna join, but I changed my mind. I'm joining. Here's my entry for the challenge.

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/main-sprites/black-white/116.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/dive-ball.png
Male | Adamant | Swift Swim | Lv.20
Leer | Water Gun | Focus Energy | Bubblebeam
31 | 31 | 31 | 24 | 31 | 31

johnny18
March 14th, 2012, 05:45 AM
I said I wasn't gonna join, but I changed my mind. I'm joining. Here's my entry for the challenge.

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/main-sprites/black-white/116.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/dive-ball.png
Male | Adamant | Swift Swim | Lv.20
Leer | Water Gun | Focus Energy | Bubblebeam
31 | 31 | 31 | 24 | 31 | 31

Twisted comes to this club :O
Hooray, let's get the party started

Squirrel
March 14th, 2012, 06:21 AM
I said I wasn't gonna join, but I changed my mind. I'm joining. Here's my entry for the challenge.

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/main-sprites/black-white/116.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/dive-ball.png
Male | Adamant | Swift Swim | Lv.20
Leer | Water Gun | Focus Energy | Bubblebeam
31 | 31 | 31 | 24 | 31 | 31

Aww man, why didn't I think of doing Horsea! Was this captured or bred though? If it was captured we need words please! <3

Cordelia
March 14th, 2012, 07:18 AM
I said I wasn't gonna join, but I changed my mind. I'm joining. Here's my entry for the challenge.

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/main-sprites/black-white/116.pnghttp://veekun.com/dex/media/items/dive-ball.png
Male | Adamant | Swift Swim | Lv.20
Leer | Water Gun | Focus Energy | Bubblebeam
31 | 31 | 31 | 24 | 31 | 31

Congratulations, twisted, and welcome to the Club! Glad I could nag you enough to join ;) Well, not really... you kind of just joined on your own, which is even better!



Aww man, why didn't I think of doing Horsea! Was this captured or bred though? If it was captured we need words please! <3

It was captured, but in HGSS, I believe.

EDIT: My latest abuses from my new save in Platinum:

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/396.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.png
Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/396.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/485.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.png
Heatran (Heatran) ♂ Lv. 50 ★
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flash Fire
IVs: 30, 10, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Metal Sound, Crunch, Earth Power, Lava Plume
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/487.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Giratina (Giratina) ♁ Lv. 47
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 16, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Ominous Wind, AncientPower, Dragon Claw, Shadow Force
Non-Redis

johnny18
March 14th, 2012, 09:45 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/396.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.png
Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/396.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/485.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.png
Heatran (Heatran) ♂ Lv. 50 ★
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flash Fire
IVs: 30, 10, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Metal Sound, Crunch, Earth Power, Lava Plume
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/487.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Giratina (Giratina) ♁ Lv. 47
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 16, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Ominous Wind, AncientPower, Dragon Claw, Shadow Force
Non-Redis

They should be flawless lol. Congrats anyway

LegendaryFSK
March 14th, 2012, 10:06 AM
Completed my second challenge! My entry for this challenge is Snorlax! I wasn't going to pick up Pokémon again until I finished at least 2 run-throughs of Mass Effect 3, but when I hopped online and saw the current challenge, there was no way I was going to be able to pass up the opportunity to RNG one of my favorite Pokémon...Snorlax.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/143.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Snorlax http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Adamant | Thick Fat | 31 31 31 02 31 31
Earthquake | Pursuit | Return | XXXX

Horizon
March 14th, 2012, 12:29 PM
I still don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

I'm hitting the target time, I'm advancing the right number of frames, but I'm just not getting the desired IVs. What's going on?

Cordelia
March 14th, 2012, 12:32 PM
I still don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

I'm hitting the target time, I'm advancing the right number of frames, but I'm just not getting the desired IVs. What's going on?

When you calibrated did you get two different timer0s? Most likely you did, you just need to alter your parameters to the other timer0.

Horizon
March 14th, 2012, 02:33 PM
I did, and I've tried hitting seeds from both Timer0s. Still no matches.

Lilith
March 14th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hi guys,

I just started trying to RNG on Generation 5, and I'm trying to get a flawless Naughty Zekrom on White, using a DS Lite. As far as i can gather I'm doing everything right, doing by the book, starting my game a second before the target time, have a Naughty synchronizer, two Chatot etc:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5642/rngp.png

But I'm getting IVs of 22 - 23 / 26 - 27 / 0 - 1 / 24 - 25 / 22 - 23 / 6 - 7 everytime. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong?
You're confusing the IV Frame and the PID Frame.

The Seed you found gives you hex-flawless on IV Frame 111. In order to get to IV Frame 111, you have to do many box withdraws, walking around, etc. These methods advances the IV RNG. Note that if you do box withdraws in N's Castle, you will have to walk to the final battle. Walking can accidentally advance the IV RNG Frame. Therefore, I suggest only using IV RNG Frame 1 then. Ditch what you're using and find another seed. In your new search, make the Min Max Frame 1. Not Max Frame 1000.
http://i43.tinypic.com/5bd1r7.png

Chatots are used to advance the PID Frame. It's customized cry advances the PID Frame by 1 each time you hear its cry on its summary page. The PID Frame does not start on 1. It can start anywhere between 40 and 60, usually. After copy+pasting a Seed into Seed(Hex) and selecting Gen 5 PIDRNG Method, click the Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame button. Your old seed would have given you a Quirky Zekrom (PID Frame 46), so you need to do 1 Chatter to get a Naughty Zekrom (PID Frame 47). However, you need to ditch that seed you used anyways. What you need to take away from this is chatter advancing, yeah. You got this down, but I wanted to recap for any others struggling about IV vs. PID frames.
http://i41.tinypic.com/20sxi7a.png

Once you pick a new seed, be sure to start the game with respect to the actual second. For example, mr. bad seed is started at 19:22:55 in order to get the target time 19:22:56. DS Lite (typically) has an actual second of 1. You gotta hit A 1 second before the target time. Follow keypresses (press and hold until you see the shooting star animation); if there are none, don't press anything during this crucial moment. Be sure your DS is in correct year/date etc. Definitely no not ever activate the C-Gear.

I'm not sure what you were getting, as those IVs are not on early IV frames of that seed you used. Find DS Parameters on a new date/time in Victory Road (the cave floor closest to Elite 4 Pokecenter). Make sure everything in the DS Parameter Finder. Be sure you used the same game/DS when finding parameters. No swapsies. It's crucial to use the right parameters or else the seeds don't work for you.

Hope this helps.

loucas
March 14th, 2012, 06:28 PM
did my TID :)
took me three times to get it right. the reporter's telling me wrong initial frames

ID:00331

also did my starter
Slick the Snivy
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/495.png
Lv. 05
OT:Loucas ID:00331
31/31/30/30/22/31

thanks to blade and mac for some pointers :)

greg0915
March 15th, 2012, 04:35 AM
did my TID :)
took me three times to get it right. the reporter's telling me wrong initial frames

ID:00331

also did my starter
Slick the Snivy
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/495.png
Lv. 05
OT:Loucas ID:00331
31/31/30/31/22/31

thanks to blade and mac for some pointers :)

Yay! congratz I'll have to RNG a starter some day =P

twistedpuppy
March 15th, 2012, 05:40 AM
Aww man, why didn't I think of doing Horsea! Was this captured or bred though? If it was captured we need words please! <3

It's in a dive ball and level 20. No way it was bred. ;P

Congratulations, twisted, and welcome to the Club! Glad I could nag you enough to join ;) Well, not really... you kind of just joined on your own, which is even better!



It was captured, but in HGSS, I believe.

EDIT: My latest abuses from my new save in Platinum:

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/396.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.png
Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/396.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/485.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.png
Heatran (Heatran) ♂ Lv. 50 ★
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flash Fire
IVs: 30, 10, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Metal Sound, Crunch, Earth Power, Lava Plume
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/487.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Giratina (Giratina) ♁ Lv. 47
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 16, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Ominous Wind, AncientPower, Dragon Claw, Shadow Force
Non-Redis

Thank you Mac! And nice captures. I see they're all OT Hoshi. Familiar OT. >.>

RingoH
March 15th, 2012, 07:01 AM
Morning All!!! I've worked two double shifts this week, and have another double shift today so I don't think I'm going to have time to complete this challenge. *cry*

Here's what I'm aiming for if I find time on my dinner break [not likely]
I'm trying to breed a Pichu with Volt Tackle. Since I do my breeding on Diamond I traded a Pickachu with Volt Orb from my HeartGold over. I have a Ditto with a perfect HP, and 29 in SA. I have a Raichu with 29 in Speed. I haven't picked a spread out that I like yet. But I'm going for a Jolly nature just because. And I care more about Shiny than the final IV combination. I'll keep you all posted. I get out at 11PM tonight, so I may just be coming in under the wire.

Congrats everyone on your recent RNG's.

Cheers, Ringo

Cordelia
March 15th, 2012, 07:11 AM
did my TID :)
took me three times to get it right. the reporter's telling me wrong initial frames

ID:00331

also did my starter
Slick the Snivy
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/495.png
Lv. 05
OT:Loucas ID:00331
31/31/30/31/22/31

thanks to blade and mac for some pointers :)

Congratulations! It feels good to RNG abuse your starter ^^

Thank you Mac! And nice captures. I see they're all OT Hoshi. Familiar OT. >.>

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I named her after Hoshi Sato from Star Trek Enterprise ^^

Morning All!!! I've worked two double shifts this week, and have another double shift today so I don't think I'm going to have time to complete this challenge. *cry*

Here's what I'm aiming for if I find time on my dinner break [not likely]
I'm trying to breed a Pichu with Volt Tackle. Since I do my breeding on Diamond I traded a Pickachu with Volt Orb from my HeartGold over. I have a Ditto with a perfect HP, and 29 in SA. I have a Raichu with 29 in Speed. I haven't picked a spread out that I like yet. But I'm going for a Jolly nature just because. And I care more about Shiny than the final IV combination. I'll keep you all posted. I get out at 11PM tonight, so I may just be coming in under the wire.

Congrats everyone on your recent RNG's.

Cheers, Ringo

Uh oh, good luck in getting it done in time! I know how working a lot is though :( Take it easy.

EDIT: I present my 200th RNG abuse... and since it's such a special occasion, I wanted to do something special (and not the most moral). I injected this Wondercard into my Soul Silver <.<

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/151.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Mew ♁ Lv. 5
OT: FAL2010 | ID: 10160
Nature: Bold
Ability: Synchronize
IVs: 31, 6, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Pound, ***, ***, ***
Not For Trade

greg0915
March 15th, 2012, 08:44 AM
I present my 200th RNG abuse... and since it's such a special occasion, I wanted to do something special (and not the most moral). I injected this Wondercard into my Soul Silver <.<

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/151.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Mew ♁ Lv. 5
OT: FAL2010 | ID: 10160
Nature: Bold
Ability: Synchronize
IVs: 31, 6, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Pound, ***, ***, ***
Not For Trade

Congratulations!!! on this monumental achievement!!! You are a real pro now!

This has to be the hardest pokemon i've ever tried to capture!!! Then i accidently pressed the run away button instead of Bag and 1 1/4 hours was wasted! but after about another hour and a half i finally managed to capture this fine beast! ^_^

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/487.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.png
Giratina Lv.70
OT: George | ID: 17771
Modest | Pressure
31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31
Shadow Force, Heal Block, Earth Power, Slash
Turnback Cave | Non-Redis

Cordelia
March 15th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Congratulations!!! on this monumental achievement!!! You are a real pro now!

This has to be the hardest pokemon i've ever tried to capture!!! Then i accidently pressed the run away button instead of Bag and 1 1/4 hours was wasted! but after about another hour and a half i finally managed to capture this fine beast! ^_^

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/487.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.png
Giratina Lv.70
OT: George | ID: 17771
Modest | Pressure
31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31
Shadow Force, Heal Block, Earth Power, Slash
Turnback Cave | Non-Redis

Thanks! Giratina is a real birch though, omg. I hated capturing him both times :( And knowing me I might do more xD

LegendaryFSK
March 15th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/646.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.png
Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31
Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor

Cordelia
March 15th, 2012, 01:45 PM
Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/646.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.png
Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31
Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor

Nice Kyurem! I know what you mean, though... that catch rate of 3 is awful. I've had to restart many times due to being stubborn and wanting it in a certain ball!

EDIT: I've been a very busy, but naughty boy! Three more injected Wondercards. Next up is Deoxys-A. All are in 4th Gen.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/251.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Celebi ♁ Lv. 50
OT: WIN2011 | ID: 2211
Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 8, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Leaf Storm, Recover, Nasty Plot, Healing Wish
Not For Trade

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/385.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Jirachi ♁ Lv. 5
OT: SMR2010 | ID: 6260
Nature: Careful
Ability: Serene Grace
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Wish, Confusion, Rest, Draco Meteor
Not For Trade

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/492.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Shaymin ♁ Lv. 30
OT: Oblivia | ID: 3060
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 6, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Growth, Magical Leaf, Leech Seed, Synthesis
Not For Trade

loucas
March 15th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/646.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.png
Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31

Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor


i'm gonna do Kyurem soon too, well after i finish my new game T.T
i want it shiny, that purple looks awesome, don't know what ball though, maybe another dive ball.

RingoH
March 15th, 2012, 07:51 PM
Last minute but I got it!!!

Pichu - Male
Jolly
Egg bred
IVs: 31 / 28 / 26 / 31 / 31 / 29
Moves: Thunder / Thunderbolt / Thunder Wave /Volt Tackle

With only 10 minutes to spare...

何贤豪
March 16th, 2012, 05:05 AM
... ... ...Thanks for everyone who worked everything out for me, but I have a bigger problem. Hitting the delay. I've tried this about 2 times using a certain spread and I could never hit it right. I'm sure I had done the seconds correctly, but I could never hit the delay correctly. And about timers...I can't enter the game in the second when the timer drops down to 0 and with lots of different information on calibration, I can't decide what to put inside the Calibrated Delay/Seconds...and I still don't know how to get rid of my occasional fluctuating seconds rate. And Target Seconds and Delay...you'd put the targeted seconds and delay rate you need to hit in there, right? Any recommendations on how to hit a delay correctly? I know that this would be a long shot, since people hit different delays and have their own ways, but I'll give it a shot. And about BW RNG Abuse for Wondercards...I don't get this part.



Hit your seed once and find the IVs you find which is the initial frame.

In most cases, it will be the first frame, after you calculate the initial PIDRNG frame.

In RNG Reporter, enter your seed and select Wondercard (5th Gen) to see the possible IV spreads.
Calculate the amount of advances you need to do to hit the target frame with the following formula:

(Target Frame) - (Initial Frame) = Advances Required



Hit your seed again, do the required advances, and verify your Pokemon.

Adjust accordingly.


Can someone clarify this part for me (make it easier to understand)? And also...for Shiny Wondercard ones. I also don't understand this part...




Search for Wondercard seeds with the frame range 60-100, with any nature selected.

Wondercard IVs and PID / Nature are based off the PIDRNG completely. No Mersenne Twister RNG is used.

Once you have a vast array of seeds, test each one out to see if you are able to hit that frame due to the initial offset of the game.

This is done by pressing the Calculate Initial Frame Button.
All possible target frames must be at least 2 frames after the initial frame.

Now look at your target frame, and second frame directly after your target. Is your desired nature on this frame?

If no, throw away that seed.
If yes, keep that seed as a potential target.

Once you have narrowed down your seeds from RNG Reporter to one(s) that have your target nature frame and seed, find out how many advances you need to do.

(Target Frame) - (Initial Frame) - 3 = Advances Required

Detailed Information on Shiny Wondercards:


It takes more than the usual amount of frames to calculate a Shiny PID.
Since the lastest RNG Reporter update (9.81) was published before we had knowledge of the Shiny Wondercard method, you will have to take a little bit more time to abuse.
The game generates a Shiny PID with the "Current Seed" and Card IDs.

Since the game generates the IVs before PID, the IVs are predictable.
However, the game generates nature after the PID.
The trick of this is that the subsequent frame will have the nature.


Can someone clarify this one as well (make it easier to understand)? Thanks and I'm sure you'll just ask me to see the page saying this again.

johnny18
March 16th, 2012, 05:05 AM
Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/646.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/013.png
Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31
Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor

Congrats. Kyurem is my fav <3


Can someone clarify this one as well (make it easier to understand)? Thanks and I'm sure you'll just ask me to see the page saying this again.
If this is your attitude then don't bother to come here to ask for help again. Do you know how many times we have to read the guide before we ask others for help?

Cordelia
March 16th, 2012, 05:23 AM
RGF, the easiest way to find your calibrated delay is to enter 500 (HGSS) or 600 (DPPT) and then adjust your timer by typing in the delay hit box the the delay that you actually hit. Then, hit update. It will change your calibrated delay. Keep doing this until you are 2-6 delay off of your target and then you should eventually get it. I don't know what to do about the "fluctuating second" since I've never actually tried that.

For 5th gen wondercards, just go to the E4 Pokemon Center. Then, you start with the initial PIDRNG frame that RNG reporter gives you (will be correct 99% of the time if you go to the E4 Pokemon Center). Then just chatter to your target.

Challlenge #4: RNG your favorite Pokemon of the fire type!

何贤豪
March 16th, 2012, 06:46 AM
Okay then...I'll keep pretty much everything in mind. And okay. I should read the guide again to understand the things I have problems with? Is that actually it? Well, the guide may be a bit problematic to me, but I'll try. (I don't really know much on RNG)

Horizon
March 16th, 2012, 08:47 AM
Thats for everyone's help, particularly TwilightBlade. I realised where I was going wrong; i was trying to match the frame given on the Timefinder screen to one on the PIDRNG screen. i was following TBs guide that she posted in another thread but as that one was going off simply a normal wild encounter, I was going in blind.

However, I gave up on Zekrom because whatever I did, I just couldn't get it right. So I abandoned Zekrom and went straight onto the other stationary legendaries. I'm pleased to report I got:

Cobalion (Shiny, Jolly), 31/31/31/9/31/31

on my first attempt. :D

Cordelia
March 16th, 2012, 09:07 AM
Thats for everyone's help, particularly TwilightBlade. I realised where I was going wrong; i was trying to match the frame given on the Timefinder screen to one on the PIDRNG screen. i was following TBs guide that she posted in another thread but as that one was going off simply a normal wild encounter, I was going in blind.

However, I gave up on Zekrom because whatever I did, I just couldn't get it right. So I abandoned Zekrom and went straight onto the other stationary legendaries. I'm pleased to report I got:

Cobalion (Jolly), 31/31/31/9/31/31

on my first attempt. :D

Congratulations! What a wonderful first RNG, if I may say so myself. I hope to see many more from you. Of course if you ever need more help feel free to ask.

Okay then...I'll keep pretty much everything in mind. And okay. I should read the guide again to understand the things I have problems with? Is that actually it? Well, the guide may be a bit problematic to me, but I'll try. (I don't really know much on RNG)

You just need to focus on one type of RNG and get it down. Right now you are way too broad which is what I think is confusing for you.

oocyst
March 16th, 2012, 11:31 AM
Did the challenge! Not my all time favourite but still one of them.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/evo/136.png
Flareon ♂
Guts|Adamant
31|31|31|6|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn

And did this one (it's the same but w/e)

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/470.png
Leafeon ♂
Chlorophyll|lvl 2.|Adamant
31|31|31|6|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn

EDIT: They turned out to be off but I got them right now :)

twistedpuppy
March 16th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Here's my sexy challenge. Best fire type imo.

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/main-sprites/black-white/228.pngHoundour http://veekun.com/dex/media/items/luxury-ball.pngMale | Timid | Flash Fire | Lv.15
Howl | Ember | Smog | Roar
31 | 23 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31 [HP http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/type/electric.gif 70]

LegendaryFSK
March 16th, 2012, 01:35 PM
Challenge complete. Chimchar is actually my second favorite fire type, but since I RNG'd Growlithe for the first challenge, I decided Chimchar would work just fine for this one.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/390.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Chimchar http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Naive | Blaze | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Scratch | Leer | U-Turn | XXXX



Nice Kyurem! I know what you mean, though... that catch rate of 3 is awful. I've had to restart many times due to being stubborn and wanting it in a certain ball!

EDIT: I've been a very busy, but naughty boy! Three more injected Wondercards. Next up is Deoxys-A. All are in 4th Gen.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/251.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Celebi ♁ Lv. 50
OT: WIN2011 | ID: 2211
Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 8, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Leaf Storm, Recover, Nasty Plot, Healing Wish
Not For Trade

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/385.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.png
Jirachi ♁ Lv. 5
OT: SMR2010 | ID: 6260
Nature: Careful
Ability: Serene Grace
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Wish, Confusion, Rest, Draco Meteor
Not For Trade

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/492.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Shaymin ♁ Lv. 30
OT: Oblivia | ID: 3060
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 6, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Growth, Magical Leaf, Leech Seed, Synthesis
Not For Trade

Thank you, but yeah, that catch rate can get very annoying. Love the Celebi and the Shaymin...they are two of the very few grass types that I actually like.

i'm gonna do Kyurem soon too, well after i finish my new game T.T
i want it shiny, that purple looks awesome, don't know what ball though, maybe another dive ball.

Thank you. Dive ball would be perfect for Kyurem, you should go for it. Hopefully you have better luck with the catch rate than I did. Took me forever.


Congrats. Kyurem is my fav <3

Thank you. Kyurem is my favorite 5th gen legendary for sure.

Cordelia
March 17th, 2012, 04:59 AM
I completed my challenge with something you might not expect. I injected this into my Entralink Forest on my Black. :3

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/255.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.png
Torchic ♂ Lv. 10
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Speed Boost
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 29, 31, 31 Dark 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Scratch, Growl, Focus Energy, Ember
Not For Trade

Horizon
March 17th, 2012, 09:05 AM
Congratulations! What a wonderful first RNG, if I may say so myself. I hope to see many more from you. Of course if you ever need more help feel free to ask.

Thank you once again; I've now added a 31/31/31/9/31/31 Jolly Shiny Terrakion to that Collection, and a Timid Shiny Virizion that, I can't remember the exact IVs, but they're all in the 30s and equate to Hidden power Rock 70. So really pleased with those. :D

Took me three tries to get the Virizion to appear, but terrakion was a first try again.

Cordelia
March 17th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Thank you once again; I've now added a 31/31/31/9/31/31 Jolly Shiny Terrakion to that Collection, and a Timid Shiny Virizion that, I can't remember the exact IVs, but they're all in the 30s and equate to Hidden power Rock 70. So really pleased with those. :D

Took me three tries to get the Virizion to appear, but terrakion was a first try again.

Wow that's great. Soon you'll move onto wild pokemon abuse and the sky's the limit from there!

Lilith
March 17th, 2012, 01:06 PM
Thats for everyone's help, particularly TwilightBlade. I realised where I was going wrong; i was trying to match the frame given on the Timefinder screen to one on the PIDRNG screen. i was following TBs guide that she posted in another thread but as that one was going off simply a normal wild encounter, I was going in blind.

However, I gave up on Zekrom because whatever I did, I just couldn't get it right. So I abandoned Zekrom and went straight onto the other stationary legendaries. I'm pleased to report I got:

Cobalion (Shiny, Jolly), 31/31/31/9/31/31

on my first attempt. :D
Hooray! Congrats on the other legends. See, it's not so hard once you figure out what you're doing. xD

Here's my sexy challenge. Best fire type imo.

http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/main-sprites/black-white/228.pngHoundour http://veekun.com/dex/media/items/luxury-ball.pngMale | Timid | Flash Fire | Lv.15
Howl | Ember | Smog | Roar
31 | 23 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31 [HP http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/type/electric.gif 70]
Love this! I was thinking about how cool a Houndour in a Lux ball is the other day. :)

Here's what I've been working on recently in gen 5. Mienfoo was a BP. Pansage is for a St. Patrick's giveaway. Volcarona is for the fire challenge. I bought 65 Dive Balls and she got in the first one! teh bubbles!

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/619.gifhttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/620.gif
Mienfoo ♀ ★
OT: Alice ID: 57098
Naive | Regenerator | Hidden Power http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/15.png
Pound | Baton Pass | Knock Off | Low Kick
31 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/511.gifhttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/512.gif
Shamrock the Simisage ♂ ★
OT: Alice ID: 57098
Timid | Gluttony | Hidden Power http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/15.png
Nasty Plot | Leaf Storm | Focus Blast | Hidden Power
31 | 22 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/637.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.png
Volcarona ♀
OT: Alice ID: 57098
Timid | Flame Body | Hidden Power http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/15.png
Silver Wind | Quiver Dance | Heat Wave | Bug Buzz
31 | 2 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31

何贤豪
March 17th, 2012, 08:02 PM
Wow, this place has a lot of good RNG abuses...
I'd like to do one and I kinda understand now, but I need some aesthetic advice. I'd like to catch a Ditto...which ball should I use? Quick Ball or Great Ball? Or should I use another kind of ball?
Thanks!

johnny18
March 17th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Wow, this place has a lot of good RNG abuses...
I'd like to do one and I kinda understand now, but I need some aesthetic advice. I'd like to catch a Ditto...which ball should I use? Quick Ball or Great Ball? Or should I use another kind of ball?
Thanks!
Pink Ditto = Heal Ball
Shiny Ditto = Dive Ball :D

何贤豪
March 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM
... ... ...Pink Ditto? Ditto's purple. (What should I use?) And also...if I were to RNG abuse a Legendary Pokemon (this is actually an aesthetic issue again), should I just use a Master Ball? Or should I use other balls? Well, I prefer the Master Ball because I'm tired of catching Legendary Pokemon with other balls (unless if it has an effect that makes the catch rate higher). I already have 12 Master Balls ready for the legendary Pokemon!

Cordelia
March 18th, 2012, 04:48 AM
... ... ...Pink Ditto? Ditto's purple. (What should I use?) And also...if I were to RNG abuse a Legendary Pokemon (this is actually an aesthetic issue again), should I just use a Master Ball? Or should I use other balls? Well, I prefer the Master Ball because I'm tired of catching Legendary Pokemon with other balls (unless if it has an effect that makes the catch rate higher). I already have 12 Master Balls ready for the legendary Pokemon!

Using Master Balls on catch rate 3 legendaries is perfectly understandable, so just really do what you want. :)

Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that the challenges are optional... you shouldn't feel compelled to do them. If you are too busy, you don't have to do them. I understand completely. I don't want this pastime to feel like a job to anyone so if you cannot do a challenge, please don't feel down or anything. It's fine. We're here to have fun and I'm not interested in making anyone not have fun. I am open to suggestions for the club at all times (by PM if you'd prefer), so just keep that in mind. Please everyone, remember that this is fun. I apologize to all of you if I have pressured anyone into challenges and I will look towards a future will I will keep a closer eye on things like that.

Good luck and ultimately, have fun, because that's what this club is all about -- fun. :)

Keiran
March 18th, 2012, 04:58 AM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/77.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #77 Ponyta (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=978701) ♀ Lv.10 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/009.png
OT: Dylan ♂ | ID: 35637
Naive - Flame Body
IVs:30/31/31/30/31/31 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/12.png
Thrash - Tackle - Tail Whip - Ember


Woo fire.

何贤豪
March 18th, 2012, 05:19 AM
Using Master Balls on catch rate 3 legendaries is perfectly understandable, so just really do what you want. :)

Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that the challenges are optional... you shouldn't feel compelled to do them. If you are too busy, you don't have to do them. I understand completely. I don't want this pastime to feel like a job to anyone so if you cannot do a challenge, please don't feel down or anything. It's fine. We're here to have fun and I'm not interested in making anyone not have fun. I am open to suggestions for the club at all times (by PM if you'd prefer), so just keep that in mind. Please everyone, remember that this is fun. I apologize to all of you if I have pressured anyone into challenges and I will look towards a future will I will keep a closer eye on things like that.

Good luck and ultimately, have fun, because that's what this club is all about -- fun. :)
Catch rate 3 only? So...for Kyogre, you don't have to do so (its catch rate is 5)? Well, I think I still have to do so. Most legendary Pokemon are a pain in the neck...especially Roaming Legendary Pokemon! And anyways, Legendary Pokemon are pretty much powerful and the Master Ball suits their power...
And about RNG abuse...I understand the basics to doing Wild Pokemon RNG Abuse. It looks simple, but I could never do it right. The reason? Delays. Well, I kinda understand how to operate the timer now, but what you said about letting the timer update itself by inserting the delay you hit instead of the delay you were supposed to hit just got me a problem. How would you identify the delay you hit? If you use the Seed from Stats thing, well, it works...but it's a bit hard. You'd have to go to a location where you can easily catch a Level 50 and more Pokemon...it's hard to do so and I don't like using an AR. And also...in the Hours and Minutes part of the Seed from Stats thing, you'd put the time you started the game (or soft reset the game) into the Hours and Minutes part, right?

Cordelia
March 18th, 2012, 06:44 AM
Catch rate 3 only? So...for Kyogre, you don't have to do so (its catch rate is 5)? Well, I think I still have to do so. Most legendary Pokemon are a pain in the neck...especially Roaming Legendary Pokemon! And anyways, Legendary Pokemon are pretty much powerful and the Master Ball suits their power...
And about RNG abuse...I understand the basics to doing Wild Pokemon RNG Abuse. It looks simple, but I could never do it right. The reason? Delays. Well, I kinda understand how to operate the timer now, but what you said about letting the timer update itself by inserting the delay you hit instead of the delay you were supposed to hit just got me a problem. How would you identify the delay you hit? If you use the Seed from Stats thing, well, it works...but it's a bit hard. You'd have to go to a location where you can easily catch a Level 50 and more Pokemon...it's hard to do so and I don't like using an AR. And also...in the Hours and Minutes part of the Seed from Stats thing, you'd put the time you started the game (or soft reset the game) into the Hours and Minutes part, right?

Just use Master Balls on anything you want. It's what you want to do, not what everyone else wants to do. You identify the delay you hit by doing a series of 9 or 10 elm calls and using the "Search Elm" feature of Seed to Time. Are you using that?

Squirrel
March 18th, 2012, 06:56 AM
I did the challenge :3 Bred a Chimchar with 31/31/30/31/30/31, non shiny & male. :3 Chimchar is adorable, more so than most fire types, so it seems appropriate to me to be an entry for this challenge ^^

vaporeon7
March 18th, 2012, 01:26 PM
I'd like to join if that's okay~

...I may just be able to RNG a Slugma tonight before the competition ends.

Cordelia
March 18th, 2012, 01:29 PM
I did the challenge :3 Bred a Chimchar with 31/31/30/31/30/31, non shiny & male. :3 Chimchar is adorable, more so than most fire types, so it seems appropriate to me to be an entry for this challenge ^^

Very nice, Alex. :) Always good to see you coming in and showing us your RNGs.

I'd like to join if that's okay~

...I may just be able to RNG a Slugma tonight before the competition ends.

Of course it's okay to join. I hope to see many great things come from you!

Gonzo
March 19th, 2012, 05:17 AM
OK, enough being on hiatus!

first thing, Mac I did the first challenge!

second thing:
M, lvl 16 shin-eeh
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/554.gifhttp://users.smogon.com/mingot/loraksballs/Luxury.png
Adamant || Hustle || Gonzo: 00001
IVs: Flawless

third thing: wanna be Co-Owner

何贤豪
March 19th, 2012, 05:29 AM
Alright...and I did do that, but it didn't give me results. It always said No match for ... (I don't remember the rest).
I have done a search with Delay + 100 - 100 to find which delay I hit instead of the one I was supposed to hit...and it still didn't work.

Cordelia
March 19th, 2012, 07:37 AM
OK, enough being on hiatus!

first thing, Mac I did the first challenge!

second thing:
M, lvl 16 shin-eeh
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/554.gifhttp://users.smogon.com/mingot/loraksballs/Luxury.png
Adamant || Hustle || Gonzo: 00001
IVs: Flawless

third thing: wanna be Co-Owner
About damn time! I'll add you in as co-owner since I need ya, bro. :3

Alright...and I did do that, but it didn't give me results. It always said No match for ... (I don't remember the rest).
I have done a search with Delay + 100 - 100 to find which delay I hit instead of the one I was supposed to hit...and it still didn't work.

OK try -1, +1 seconds as well...

LegendaryFSK
March 19th, 2012, 10:17 AM
My latest RNG abuse. This was my first attempt at going for a certain HP.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/133.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Eevee http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Run Away
31 22 22 31 31 31 | HP 70 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/15.png
Tackle | Helping Hand | Shadow Ball | Hidden Power

Cordelia
March 19th, 2012, 11:05 AM
My latest RNG abuse. This was my first attempt at going for a certain HP.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/133.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Eevee http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Run Away
31 22 22 31 31 31 | HP 70 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/15.png
Tackle | Helping Hand | Shadow Ball | Hidden Power

Congrats ^^ Looks like a Jolteon to me ;) I have an HP Ice one that I like... but my HP grass one really takes the cake. I love KOing Quagsire and Gastrodon with it :P

Gonzo
March 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM
My latest RNG abuse. This was my first attempt at going for a certain HP.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/133.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Eevee http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Run Away
31 22 22 31 31 31 | HP 70 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/15.png
Tackle | Helping Hand | Shadow Ball | Hidden Power

Congratulations! Why don't you try shiny next time? ;)

And yeah, some of you guys probably don't know me, I'm Gonzo from Poland and I'm the new co-owner since... today XD
I'm back from my hiatus to help Mac with new challenges, show you the joy od RNG and to inspire you to explore the depths of RNG abusing. Since English isn't my native language, I'm sorry in advance if it goes bad sometimes ;)
I hope we can have a lot of fun together :D

Cheers and wait for the upcoming new challenge I prepared for you! :)

vaporeon7
March 19th, 2012, 11:48 AM
I'm just in time for the challenge (I think).

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/9a/218.png
Slugma | F | Lv.1
OT: Aaron | ID: 06293 | White
Timid | Weak Armor
Yawn | Smog | Protect | Toxic
31|14|31|30|31|31 | HP: Grass 70


I was going to do a Volcarona but oh well. Lol @ Shell Smash Magcargo.

Gonzo
March 19th, 2012, 12:09 PM
Yes, you're right on time! Congrats!

And I don't know what's that funny in Shell Smash Magcargo... It's useful, finally :)

LegendaryFSK
March 19th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Congrats ^^ Looks like a Jolteon to me ;) I have an HP Ice one that I like... but my HP grass one really takes the cake. I love KOing Quagsire and Gastrodon with it :P

Thank you! And yes..it'll be Jolteon. I'm pretty excited about this one. My next abuse will be another Eevee, but with a different HP. Gonna go for a Glaceon.

Congratulations! Why don't you try shiny next time? ;)

And yeah, some of you guys probably don't know me, I'm Gonzo from Poland and I'm the new co-owner since... today XD
I'm back from my hiatus to help Mac with new challenges, show you the joy od RNG and to inspire you to explore the depths of RNG abusing. Since English isn't my native language, I'm sorry in advance if it goes bad sometimes ;)
I hope we can have a lot of fun together :D

Cheers and wait for the upcoming new challenge I prepared for you! :)

Thank you. I'm not a big fan of the shiny sprite for Jolteon...but my next Eevee will be shiny for sure. Gonna go for a Glaceon, and I love the shiny sprite for Glaceon.

oocyst
March 19th, 2012, 01:36 PM
I just got done with a lot of new RNGs! All of the Eeveelutions with useful abilities, hidden powers and all that jazz!

Spoilering because huge post etc



http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/evo/471.png
Glaceon ♂
Ice Body|lvl 2.|Modest|HP Ground
31|31|31|30|30|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn
Hatched in Cold Storage


http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/470.png
Leafeon ♂
Chlorophyll|lvl 2.|Adamant
31|31|31|6|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn
Hatched in Pinwheel Forest


http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/sprites/pt/197.png
Umbreon ♂
Synchronize|lvl 2.|Careful
31|31|31|5|31|31
Tackle|Helping Hand|Wish|Synchronoise
Hatched in Abundant Shrine


http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/sprites/hgss/196.png
Espeon ♂
Magic Bounce|lvl 2.|Timid|HP Fighting
31|30|30|[30|30|30
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn
Hatched in Village Bridge


http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/evo/134.png
Vaporeon ♂
Hydration|Bold
31|22|31|31|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn
Hatched in Undella Bay


http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/sprites/dp/135.png
Jolteon ♂
Volt Absorb|Timid|HP Ice
31|31|31|31|31|30
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn
Hatched in Chargestone Cave


http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/evo/136.png
Flareon ♂
Guts|Adamant
31|31|31|6|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn
Hatched in Pinwheel Forest


Hardest in order: Espeon, Umbreon, Vaporeon, Glaceon, Leafeon/Flareon, Jolteon

Was fun to do but I'm so tired right now!!

Gonzo
March 19th, 2012, 01:45 PM
Wow, this is awesome! You did awesome job Rednael!

@LegendaryFSK Teah,, not a huge fan of Shiny Jolteon too, but I was rather talking about shiny breed in general :)

6h to end the current challenge :)

Cordelia
March 19th, 2012, 03:17 PM
Nice RNGs Rednael! I really need to do a Leafeon like that ^^ I am jealous :D

RingoH
March 19th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Hi All!!

Favorite Fire was a little tough. I thought about trying to go for Moltres on my SS but I'm not really ready to try those birds just yet...

I decided to go with my favorite fire by look alone. I think the shiny Rapidash with blue for its manes is the single prettiest shiny fire Pokemon. So going purely on one I find pretty I aimed for a male jolly shiny. (egg breeding in diamond)

I got my shiny male jolly. But when I went for my stats..
I was excited when it was a mischievous characteristic and thought I had my frame. I saved then checked with rare candies. Apparently I flipped one too few pages and although I have perfect Special Attack the rest of my stats are very low. I am still proud to enter this handsome dude as my entry in the challenge..

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/plmfsa/77.png
Ponyta *Shiny*
Lvl. 1
Male / Jolly
3 / 25 / 9 / 31 / 5 / 12

loucas
March 19th, 2012, 06:24 PM
i did the challenge too,

i already caught my liberty garden one so, this.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/494.png
Victini
wifi gift l Lv. 50
Adamant Nature
OT:movie14
ID:12031
31/31/30/30/30/31

but, i'v always wanted one in a dive ball,
gonna try my liberty garden one on white.

but that can wait :)


hope i'm not too late :P


-------------------



here's what my last save file has got me before i restarted it :)

OT:Alexia ID:30012


Mydas the Yamask
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/562.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem007.png
Relic Castle
Lv. 21
Relaxed Nature
31/4/13/31/30/1

Victini the, well, Victini
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/494.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem011.png
Liberty Garden
Lv. 15
Timid
31/30/31/31/30/30

Dr. Shuckle the Shuckle
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/213.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem007.png
Route 14
Lv. 49
Relaxed
31/17/31/19/30/5

Redhorn the Terrakion
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/639.png
Trial Chamber
Lv. 42
Adamant Nature
31/31/28/10/9/31

Dullahan the Golett
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/622.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem007.png
Dragonspiral Tower
Lv.31
Adamant Nature
Iron Fist
31/31/30/31/30/27

Xiaoyu the Mienfoo
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/619.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem007.png
Dragonspiral Tower
Adamant Nature
Regen
Lv. 33
30/30/27/23/29/31

Santelmo the Litwick
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/607.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem007.png
Celestial Tower
Lv. 26
Modest nature
Flash Fire
31/31/30/31/30/27

Gonzo
March 19th, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nice stuff RingoH and loucas!

Thanks everyone for participating in this challenge, be sure to bug Mac to add you on the scoreboard XD

Time for the new challenge!

The Wake Up Slap Challenge!
The spring is coming so wake the Pokemon up! Some of the Pokemon are based on animals that hibernate during the winter. So what are you waiting for? RNG one of those to wake it up! Since this challenge is based on your creativity, you have to add a creative explanation why did you choose this Pokemon, not another one. If you don't have any ideas what pokemon it could be, this article might be helpful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation

The challenge starts now and ends on March 23rd, 2012 11:59 PM UTC-4 (US Eastern Time)

RingoH
March 20th, 2012, 03:32 AM
WOW Gonzo!!! That is such an awsome and creative challenge I am looking forward to completing it. I acctually know exactly which Pokemon I plan to use for it... and it's not (I hope anyway) an obvious one... Going to wait til I've completed to tell you what it is though (Usually I like to tell my goal for a challenge but this one is so special I'm holding my hand a little close).... [I will say I think I'm migrating the parents for the challenge off one of my Gen III games]

This challenge inspired me to share this RNG I did a few weeks back:


http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsb/dpmfsb143.png
Snorlax - *SHINY*
Male - Adamant - Egg Hatched
26 / 6 / 11 / 31 / 31 / 31
Hidden Power - Dragon 70

Christianzeo
March 20th, 2012, 03:50 AM
How do we use the broken RNG? i still don't get it :P

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 04:18 AM
@RingoH Thank you! I'm glad you like my challenge! I hope you'll get a wonderful breed after swapping the parents from Gen III! Snorlax is kinda obvoius but a good example of a Pokemon that could sleep whole winter. I'm really excited what you'll get for us, good luck and have fun :)

@Christianzeo Read RNG abuse guide (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=6990046&postcount=3) by TwilightBlade. It's well written and easy to understand, that should help.

RingoH
March 20th, 2012, 04:39 AM
How do we use the broken RNG? i still don't get it :P

It helps to know which game you're trying to abuse on, as the method of verifying your target seed is different on each one. Which part of the process is giving you trouble?

The guides all look overwhelming at first, as it's not easy the first time [after all this is an aspect of the game that Nintendo and Game Freak never intended us to discover and try to exploit].

If you are trying to abuse for a shiny you will need to know your SID in addition to your Trainer ID. The easiest way to find this is to send a pokemon to Pokecheck [www.pokecheck.org].

I read the guides severl times over and over before I tried my first RNG, once you've done it a few times it starts to become like second nature. Also, try to learn one type of RNG on one game rather than try to laern everything at once. Focus on just capturing or just breeding. Once you get how to do one, then learn the other tricks.

***
Advice Needed:
Where is the best place to RNG some Ditto's??? I have a few with more than one perfect stat, but I would like a small collection of them with three or more perfects...

I DO have Emerald, but have not tried to RNG on it. I have HG/SS but have yet to RNG on those yet... And is it possible to RNG them in D/P using the Pokeradar?

I'm open to suggestions.

***

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 05:59 AM
Ringo, You can get some Ditto's in Giant Chasm.

First, find a spread for flawless synchable nature, encounter slot 3 or 6.
Then, remove the fog in the inner plains part (save game, change the month one forwards, encounter a Pokemon - you can KO it or just run - and the fog will be cleared).
Next, put your desired synchronizer as a lead, get Chatots, take a Magikarp or Caterpie or another weakling to switch on the first turn and a Pokemon which will help you get Ditto.
In the end, hit your seed, advance the frames and catch the Ditto :)

Emerald abuse is annoying and you have to wait ages to get a flawless ditto...
Radar abuse is very annoying... I tried that, I hated that XD
I caught several flawless Ditto in HG/SS, Timid and Modest are even Shiny :3

RingoH
March 20th, 2012, 07:30 AM
I have barely touched Black and White. [My copy of Black I am on the fourth gym, and White I am on the second]... I really need the Dittos for my breeding projects in Diamond.

I'm guessing it's time to start to RNG in HG/SS. It was bound to happen soon anyway.

I do "eventually" want to learn RNG in Emerald because I would like to breed some of my favorites there and get some Gen III ribbons on them before migrating them... In particular I want to have a team earn the Mt. Battle ribbon in Colloseum. Learning to RNG in Emerald isn't something I planned to do "soon" was just toying with it for my Ditto needs since the easiest place in the game to run into them is in that cave, and the Frontier dude helps narrow down the IV's.

I also rarely RNG my Pokemons with more than three perfects. I think it makes each one more unique. So although a flawless Ditto in all stats would be ideal for my breeding needs... I'm really looking for like three or four of them with perfects in several stats and anything in the rest... and I don't worry about nature.

For someone who is already used to RNG abuse in Diamond: how different is HG/SS going to be?

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 07:54 AM
Oh, I thought you're abusing in BW, my bad XD

it's the same, tho you check the seed by calling Elm 10 times or if you have your roamers free, just check the map if their positions are correct.

Cordelia
March 20th, 2012, 08:30 AM
My newest RNG:

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Sableye ♀ Lv. 1
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Careful
Ability: Prankster
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Trick, Recover, Foul Play, Taunt
Non-Redis

Got this in one try ^^ Woot. :D

And RingoH, sorry to tell you but the Snorlax doesn't quite count for the challenge as you had done it before.

RingoH
March 20th, 2012, 08:36 AM
And RingoH, sorry to tell you but the Snorlax doesn't quite count for the challenge as you had done it before.

I can't tell if this was some good natured joking or if you missed part of what I wrote....

I have a different Poke I am planning to RNG tonight for entry into the challenge... I was only using the announcement of the latest challenge as an excuse to show him off.

Cordelia
March 20th, 2012, 09:04 AM
I can't tell if this was some good natured joking or if you missed part of what I wrote....

I have a different Poke I am planning to RNG tonight for entry into the challenge... I was only using the announcement of the latest challenge as an excuse to show him off.

Sorry, misread completely... my fault. I am way tired lately :(

RingoH
March 20th, 2012, 09:27 AM
Sorry, misread completely... my fault. I am way tired lately :(

Tired is easily understood.... I'm coming down with a case of that too

Cordelia
March 20th, 2012, 09:58 AM
Tired is easily understood.... I'm coming down with a case of that too

I have my next few RNGs planned... what do you guys think?

For Challenge: It's a surprise, I hope to get it asap! ;)
Then Adamant Scyther caught in Platinum, DW Corphish, and a Brave Totodile. All three of these are BP/CPs from my thread... I need other things to think of to RNG abuse :P

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 10:19 AM
Well, Mac, your post is inspiring and I think it's a good Idea for today's topic! the question is:

Do you guys plan your RNG abuses? Do you have a list or something or are they rather spontaneous?
We're really curious! Share your RNG habit with us! I'm going to post on topic too, but I'd like to read your experience first ;)

LegendaryFSK
March 20th, 2012, 10:20 AM
Challenge complete. This challenge was pretty unique and I enjoyed it...although I don't feel like Spring is coming where I live. It's been cold and snowing all day here. So I went with Teddiursa, the Little Bear Pokémon, beings how he seems nice and warm under all that fur...unlike the weather here.


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Teddiursa http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Quick Feet | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Close Combat | Crunch | Facade | Swords Dance

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Challenge complete. This challenge was pretty unique and I enjoyed it...although I don't feel like Spring is coming where I live. It's been cold and snowing all day here. So I went with Teddiursa, the Little Bear Pokémon, beings how he seems nice and warm under all that fur...unlike the weather here.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/216.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Teddiursa http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Quick Feet | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Close Combat | Crunch | Facade | Swords Dance

Oh, poor you! I hope Teddiursa's fur will warm you up ;)
Congrats for being the fastest with this challenge! :)

Cordelia
March 20th, 2012, 10:45 AM
Challenge complete. This challenge was pretty unique and I enjoyed it...although I don't feel like Spring is coming where I live. It's been cold and snowing all day here. So I went with Teddiursa, the Little Bear Pokémon, beings how he seems nice and warm under all that fur...unlike the weather here.


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Teddiursa http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Quick Feet | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Close Combat | Crunch | Facade | Swords Dance

Oi, I love Teddiursa! He's probably one of the picture perfect Pokemon for this challenge since he's a teddy bear. If he lived where I lived, he would have come out of his cave weeks ago... hell, he might have barely been in it. We hardly had three weeks of winter here this year. :3

For the topic -- I usually try to plan out my RNG abuses in my head, but every so often I'll read something about an awesome competitive Poke and I'm like OMG I most RNG that as soon as possible. That's where the Sableye with Prankster came in... I just had to have one, so I abused one myself.

vaporeon7
March 20th, 2012, 01:06 PM
I finished the challenge too~
I RNGed Poliwag as many types of frogs hibernate during winter to escape the cold and what not. I was going to do a Teddiursa but I thought I'd go for something a little different. I always loved digging up the frogs and tadpoles from underneath the mud when I was little in Spring. It was so fun. Also am I supposed to post my Pokémon in the format above? I'll just do it now just in case.

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Poliwag http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Aaron | 06293 | White
Bold | Swift Swim | 31 30 31 31 31 31
Water Sport

oocyst
March 20th, 2012, 01:08 PM
I did my challenge and I'm gonna write up why I did this guy!

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Poliwag ♀
Swift Swim|Modest|HP Grass
31|14|31|30|31|31
Water Sport|Encore
Hatched in Moor of Icirrus

So among the animals that hibernate are the amphibians, the frogs and newts and salamanders and all that. Most species just spend the winters on the bottom of ponds, partially burrowed in the mud, waiting for winter to be over. However, there is a species of frog that can survive the harsh winter colds, even when frozen solid! They store enough glucose in their organs to stop them from crystallizing, while the exterior part of their bodies freezes. This way they can stay alive even when completely frozen.

That's why I did poliwag, the little tadpole that will one day turn into a cute frog or a burly toad! I think mine is destined to become a cute froggy kinda poli. I love frogs <33

And for the topic, no, I don't plan out my RNGs, when a pokemon I like springs to mind I just get the urge to RNG it and then I do it.

Cordelia
March 20th, 2012, 01:11 PM
I finished the challenge too~
I RNGed Poliwag as many types of frogs hibernate during winter to escape the cold and what not. I was going to do a Teddiursa but I thought I'd go for something a little different. I always loved digging up the frogs and tadpoles from underneath the mud when I was little in Spring. It was so fun. Also am I supposed to post my Pokémon in the format above? I'll just do it now just in case.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/fb/Spr_5b_060_s.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Poliwag http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Aaron | 06293 | White
Bold | Swift Swim | 31 30 31 31 31 31
Water Sport


I did my challenge and I'm gonna write up why I did this guy!

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/060.png
Poliwag ♀
Swift Swim|Modest|HP Grass
31|14|31|30|31|31
Water Sport|Encore
Hatched in Moor of Icirrus

So among the animals that hibernate are the amphibians, the frogs and newts and salamanders and all that. Most species just spend the winters on the bottom of ponds, partially burrowed in the mud, waiting for winter to be over. However, there is a species of frog that can survive the harsh winter colds, even when frozen solid! They store enough glucose in their organs to stop them from crystallizing, while the exterior part of their bodies freezes. This way they can stay alive even when completely frozen.

That's why I did poliwag, the little tadpole that will one day turn into a cute frog or a burly toad! I love frogs <33

And for the topic, no, I don't plan out my RNGs, when a pokemon I like springs to mind I just get the urge to RNG it and then I do it.

Haha, you two posted the same challenge entry almost at the same time! That's fine though, just rather funny how things work like that. Both are very nice RNG abuses, so keep up the great work. I didn't even know that frogs hibernated during winter... shows what I know about animals (absolutely nothing).

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 01:29 PM
Vaporeon, Rednael, you stole my Pokemon T^T

Let's see... what else is worth abusing...

Keiran
March 20th, 2012, 01:49 PM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/327.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #327 Spinda (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=991777) ♀ Lv.10 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/576.png
OT: Dylan ♂ | ID: 35637
Jolly - Contrary
IVs:31/31/31/31/31/31 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/17.png
Superpower - Uproar - Copycat - Tackle

SPRINGDA.

LegendaryFSK
March 20th, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oh, poor you! I hope Teddiursa's fur will warm you up ;)
Congrats for being the fastest with this challenge! :)

Thank you. Unfortunately, the only reason I was able to get it done so quick is because I threw out my back yesterday and have been in bed almost the whole time since then. Gives me a perfect reason to play Pokémon and RNG though...so it's all good.

Oi, I love Teddiursa! He's probably one of the picture perfect Pokemon for this challenge since he's a teddy bear. If he lived where I lived, he would have come out of his cave weeks ago... hell, he might have barely been in it. We hardly had three weeks of winter here this year. :3

For the topic -- I usually try to plan out my RNG abuses in my head, but every so often I'll read something about an awesome competitive Poke and I'm like OMG I most RNG that as soon as possible. That's where the Sableye with Prankster came in... I just had to have one, so I abused one myself.

Man, I wish I lived where you live then. I'm not a big fan of the cold and snow at all. My first thought for this challenge was going to be Tympole, but when I looked outside and saw all the snow, I just thought of something warm and Teddiursa was perfect.


As far as today's topic goes, like Mac of York, I usually try and plan my abuses out, but most of the time I get totally sidetracked and usually RNG abuse something completely random. I have never battled competitively, but I read a lot of analysis on different competitive Pokémon and I get excited and RNG one of them instead...then of course never use them in a battle. lol.

Gonzo
March 20th, 2012, 02:33 PM
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/327.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #327 Spinda (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=991777) ♀ Lv.10 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/576.png
OT: Dylan ♂ | ID: 35637
Jolly - Contrary
IVs:31/31/31/31/31/31 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/17.png
Superpower - Uproar - Copycat - Tackle

SPRINGDA.
Nice one, but... can't see the reason why Spinda :P that's the key to the challenge.

Keiran
March 20th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nice one, but... can't see the reason why Spinda :P that's the key to the challenge.

It's a little teddy bear thing!

vaporeon7
March 20th, 2012, 10:43 PM
It's a little teddy bear thing!

Aren't they based off pandas, which don't hibernate?

RingoH
March 21st, 2012, 03:32 AM
Ok... Time to show off my entry. I was thinking a little creative here. I chose Slakoth. Now, yes the name is based off of a sloth [and in the anime it's appearance is more like a sloth], the sprite has always made me think of a Lemur. It's shadow around the eyes, and stripes. The Lemur is the only primate known to hibernate [although I was reading that this is a much shorter hibernation than we traditionaly think of such as bears have]. To fathur my Lemur analogy I am refering you all to King Jullian from Penguins of Madagasgar who does a lot of dancing... Vigoroth, Slakoth's first evolution, I have always thought looks more like it's dancing than it's attacking in it's animated sprite. Lastly, its final evolution is Slaking [King -- As in King Jullian].

I decided he needed to be Relaxed only for aesthetic reasons, a sleeping, hibernating Pokemon sure better feel relaxed... And I decided to sync the Characteristic into this challenge, which was harder than I thought it would be... I had to make sure I only had one perfect in order to assure this. So here I present my very sleepy, hibernating[or at least hibernating every other turn], Slakoth who hopes one day to be a King just like the cute annoying Lemur from penguins:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsb/dpmfsb287.png
Slokoth - *Shiny*
Male - Relaxed
Egg Hatched - Lvl. 1
31 / 15 / 29 / 9 / 28 / 23
HP - Steel 36
**Characteristic - Often Dozes Off **

He was a lot of fun to RNG.

As for the question of the day:
I have a mental list of which pokemon I want to RNG. Most of the time I just care about shiny and stats are a little secondary. I get more interested in a decent Hidden Power than I do actual stats, even if I dont intend to put Hidden Power on it. My first goals as an RNGer are a collection of shiny starters [half way there], a collection of shiny Eevolutions [not there yet as I want wish as an egg move and I've been too lazy to raise my Togepi to get it], and most of the Pokemon from the fairy egg group[I like cute Pokemon]. I also want to RNG all my Legendaries from now on [so far only done a Giratina]. There area a few random Pokemon I am RNGing in the process. For example, the Snorlax I showed off yesterday. I needed a male Snorlax to pass down Belly Drum to my Charizard while doing the First Gen Starters [I was copying a Bellyzard I saw on Smogon]. I figured since I was breeding to get a Male in the first place I might as well breed him Shiny, and since I was going to RNG him I might as well give him some decent stats too. Likewise I RNGed a Roselia, while part of the Fairy Group it's not one of the species I consider "cute" and part of my must have list... I needed Aromatherapy to pass down to a Chansey though. I am glad I did RNG the Roselia though because the Shiny Sprite in my opinion is so cool I feel I would have missed out by not doing it. So anytime I am planning on breeding an egg move I'm sidetracking my RNG plans to include the father pokemon being bred shiny first. Lastly, a few random Pokemon I happen to like are getting done early. Such as Porygon, which I've bred two shiny, and done a capture [the capture was my team rocket challenge entry]. The capture was partially because I wanted my first RNG capture to be a pokemon that was special to me, and partially because I messed up both my egg hatched ones by giving them the wrong ability.

Ever since Emerald I have been enthusiastic about breeding. I was once able to chain breed to get a Pokemon with four perfect IV's. That was a lot and I mean a LOT of getting eggs and hatching them over and over. At the time I had nearly an hour commute to work by bus and spent my bus ride every day playing Pokemon. RNGing takes a lot less time out of breeding. Last night I decided I would take a crack at Emerald RNG abuse. I understand why it would be annoying for most use. However, I think I'll get the hang of it. If I do.... I'll be looking to restart Emerald soon so I can catch all the Hoenn Legendaries shiny, especially the Golem Trio. Trouble is I think I would want to buy a second copy of Emerald somewhere... I have every box in my pc full, and I'm only around 10 pokemon shy of a complete National Dex. We'll see. I need some continued experimentation before I decide if playing around in Emerald is worth my time or not.

何贤豪
March 21st, 2012, 05:13 AM
Okay...for your question...I'm going to say:

I pretty much plan my RNG abuses, but they sometimes get a bit problematic (I focus on all of them, making it harder).

Speaking of RNG abuse...I think I'll just stop on HGSS RNG abuse. Man, that RNG abuse is a pain. Delays are going to drive me crazy. I'd rather work on BW RNG abuse...I have yet to get the SPR2012 Zekrom (it is spring, right?) and Nobunaga's Rayquaza. I think it could go well. If it doesn't, I'll just leave them in the box and transfer them when I can. It's a long shot anyway...because I use a flash cart.\

(I hope this isn't a problematic post)

Cordelia
March 21st, 2012, 10:00 AM
So, after much hard work, I finally present entry for the challenge:

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Bulbasaur ♂ Lv. 10
OT: Spock | ID: 51241
Nature: Modest
Ability: Chlorophyll
IVs: 31, 10, 31, 30, 31, 30 Fire 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Leech Seed, Vine Whip
Not For Trade
Injected into Entralink, Japanese Rom

Bulbasaur might not be the first thing you think of when you think of a hibernating Pokemon, but I'd like to think that it does hibernate during the winter. It needs to protect its bulb and the best way to do that is to find a nice, warm cave and lay down to sleep during the cold season. Then, when it comes around to spring, it could show up and enjoy the warmer weather and the sunshine and then perhaps its bulb will have matured enough to work on blooming, then evolving into Ivysaur and eventually Venusaur.

I hope that's OK... lol, I wanted to do Bulbasaur really bad xD

何贤豪
March 22nd, 2012, 07:31 AM
Ooh, that looks nice! (I actually need one of those!)
I'd like to do the challenge...but I'm still confused. And I decided to quit HGSS RNG abuse for a while. Those events aren't going to come themselves!

Speaking of the events, I plan on RNG abusing Rayquaza and Zekrom. I think I understand most things for the Zekrom, but there is one step in the guide that I'm a bit confused about.

"Hit your seed once and find the IVs you find which is the initial frame.
In most cases, it will be the first frame, after you calculate the initial PIDRNG frame."

Now, what I'm confused on this part is about "find the IVs you find which is the initial frame" and the rest after that.
About find the IVs you find...find which Pokemon's IVs? Is it the Wondercard one? And about the initial frame...you'd find your initial frame using the IVs you found, right? And you'd also have to calculate your initial PIDRNG frame too, right? If you do, how? Does it go like how you'd find your initial frame? And there's also a part that says...

"Hit your seed again, do the required advances, and verify your Pokemon.
Adjust accordingly."

Now, what would adjust accordingly mean? Does it mean I have to adjust something when I have to? And if I should, what should I adjust? The advances I have to do?

Well, after that, I have no problems.

(I hope this one doesn't bring problems)

LegendaryFSK
March 22nd, 2012, 01:17 PM
So, after much hard work, I finally present entry for the challenge:

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Bulbasaur ♂ Lv. 10
OT: Spock | ID: 51241
Nature: Modest
Ability: Chlorophyll
IVs: 31, 10, 31, 30, 31, 30 Fire 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Leech Seed, Vine Whip
Not For Trade
Injected into Entralink, Japanese Rom

Bulbasaur might not be the first thing you think of when you think of a hibernating Pokemon, but I'd like to think that it does hibernate during the winter. It needs to protect its bulb and the best way to do that is to find a nice, warm cave and lay down to sleep during the cold season. Then, when it comes around to spring, it could show up and enjoy the warmer weather and the sunshine and then perhaps its bulb will have matured enough to work on blooming, then evolving into Ivysaur and eventually Venusaur.

I hope that's OK... lol, I wanted to do Bulbasaur really bad xD

Very creative thinking and now that you mention it, Bulbasaur does seem like it it would hibernate. Love it.

Just gonna post some of my most recent abuses. I RNG'd the Abra a couple days ago, and the rest I did today. Just had the urge to RNG a few of my favorite 5th Gen Pokémon today.

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Abra http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Magic Guard | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Teleport | Calm Mind | Psychic | Substitute

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Axew http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Adamant | Mold Breaker | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Scratch | Dual Chop | XXXXX | XXXXX

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Scraggy http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Moxie | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Dragon Dance | Ice Punch | Drain Punch | Low Kick

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Minccino http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Technician | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Pound | Thunder Wave | XXXXX | XXXXX

johnny18
March 22nd, 2012, 03:50 PM
About find the IVs you find...find which Pokemon's IVs? Is it the Wondercard one?
Yes in this case as you want to RNG a wondercard.

And about the initial frame...you'd find your initial frame using the IVs you found, right? And you'd also have to calculate your initial PIDRNG frame too, right? If you do, how? Does it go like how you'd find your initial frame?
For wondercard abuse in 5th gen, IVs are tied with nature so all you need to do --->
you hit your seed and don not do any advance at this point, check the pokemon's IVs and nature, then compare it to the main window to see what frame you end up and that will be your initial frame (no worries about initial PIDRNG frame). Then you do it again but this time advance the frame to get to the frame you want and you shall get your desire wondercard mon ;)

Gonzo
March 22nd, 2012, 03:54 PM
Bro, awesome Bulbasaur and good explanation, I like it!

LegendaryFSK, nice abuses! I'm in love with your Mincinno ;)

Time for my challenge post 8D

From Camilla's Journal a small Challenge Fick - explanation:
The true is, she was the very first Pokemon of this species I saw on the route and in my life as well. Probably, she was the first awoken from the sleep! I found her training some punches on a huge brick of ice, late at night. My Abra felt a bond between himself and her and manipulated my Carnivine to attract her with Sweet Scent! I wanted to hide but I slipped on the ice and accidentialy dropped my pokeball with Pelipper and he got out of it. She wanted a battle - if I was asleep for about three months, I would definitely like to battle too! She used Belly Drum in the very beginning of the battle. I was impressed by her spirit, spirit of a true warrior. During a fierce battle which was full of powerful techniques I realized that she would be a great partner for me and my team. Eventually, both Pokemon my Pelipper and the Pokemon were exhausted. That was the moment I threw a Nest Ball and... I did it! I caught her! Click on the spoiler to see what got!

Poliwhirl, lvl 47, http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png *
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OT: Camilla | ID: 12572
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Water Absorb
IVs: 31/31/31/7/31/31
Date: 21 March 2012 (was lucky!) | Place: Route 225
Classic 4th Gen abuse, will become the non-mainstream head of Poli family, in a classy Nest Ball matching it's evolution's colour

何贤豪
March 22nd, 2012, 08:07 PM
Thanks for that! I'll be back with my latest abuses! All I need now is a Sweet Scent user so I can find my parameters and an IV checker (I can't use Pokecheck in my place, not sure why...it worked with ReignOfComputer's server that did the same thing)...would an online checker do (like Serebii's)?
Secondly, I'm a bit confused on this part:

check the pokemon's IVs and nature, then compare it to the main window to see what frame you end up and that will be your initial frame (no worries about initial PIDRNG frame).

The Pokemon is the Wondercard one again, right? And comparing it to the main window...the main window is the first window that pops up when you open RNG Reporter...and you compare the IVs and Nature. After I did that, then how do I find my frame (which will be the initial frame)? Do I use the IVs? And comparing it does what, actually?

And another thing...if you received a Wondercard Pokemon and turned off without saving, the delivery man would still be able to give you your Wondercard Pokemon, right?

(Sorry, I just don't get most things when it comes to abusing for IVs)

vaporeon7
March 22nd, 2012, 11:26 PM
I don't really plan my RNGs, unless I need the Pokémon for a specific team or someone has requested it. Most of the time it's a matter of surfing Smogon and seeing an interesting moveset, seeing a shiny sprite and thinking it's pretty or just a random obsession with the Pokémon at the time.

何贤豪
March 23rd, 2012, 12:13 AM
Well, I'm back with my newest RNG abuse...a Shiny Zubat! It's for the Wake Up Slap Challenge.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d2/Spr_5b_041_f_s.png

No.041 Zubat, Lv.1 (UT), Quiet nature, Inner Focus ability.
OT Jason, ID No. 56796.
Moves: Leech Life
IVs: Unknown
EVs: None


The reason I chose Zubat is because bats hibernate and Zubat is a bat-like Pokemon.
It isn't really creative, but I have to give a reason, right?

This Zubat isn't really great...it's just a Shiny Pokemon. I have no idea about how to RNG abuse for good IVs...yet.

johnny18
March 23rd, 2012, 03:04 AM
The Pokemon is the Wondercard one again, right? And comparing it to the main window...the main window is the first window that pops up when you open RNG Reporter...and you compare the IVs and Nature. After I did that, then how do I find my frame (which will be the initial frame)? Do I use the IVs? And comparing it does what, actually?
Yes, the pokemon is the wondercard one since you want to RNG a wondercard. yes for the main window. What I mean is just using pokemon IVs and nature to look for your frame, to see which frame matches up with your pokemon's IVs and nature.


And another thing...if you received a Wondercard Pokemon and turned off without saving, the delivery man would still be able to give you your Wondercard Pokemon, right?
As long as you do not save the game then yes, the delivery man will still give you the pokemon.

Thanks for that! I'll be back with my latest abuses! All I need now is a Sweet Scent user so I can find my parameters and an IV checker (I can't use Pokecheck in my place, not sure why...it worked with ReignOfComputer's server that did the same thing)...would an online checker do (like Serebii's)?
Yes, you can use that but they will give you a range of IVs rather than exact IVs.

RingoH
March 23rd, 2012, 03:32 AM
I wanted to give an update on my Emerald progress.... Attempting to RNG for a collection of Ditto's that I can use for Gen III breeding... And learning RNG in Gen III so that I can RNG my legendarys as well as RNG a team I want to bring to Mt Battle.

One thing I have determined is that soft resetting Emerald is just not for me, it feels too akward, and I don't feel I am consistantly starting the clock and hitting my soft reset at the same time. I am using my two stage timer I use for Gen IV abuse, but instead of a long delay first followed by a shorter delay I'm using a five second delay first, then reset when that reaches zero, mash A until I'm in the game world, then select my sweet scenter and hit A for sweet scent once the second timer reaches zero.

I found that soft resetting and trying to determine a calibration time that I was off by one or two seconds once then off by one or two in the opposite direction the second time... Although by sheer luck I did hit one of the spreads I was hoping to catch during this calibration phase [although not the one I was aiming for at the time, which is why I say I hit it by sheer dumb luck]. Without changing my timer at all I ended up as far off as two second, and as close as ten frames. That's way too huge of a window of error to be acceptable, and I really feel it had to do with trying to hold down SEL/START/A/B and release at the right moment. The A/B aren't an issue, but the SEL & Start are just not comfortable to try to hold down and then release at the right time.

Last night, I decided to try a hard reset. Still using the two stage timer, with a five second pre-delay. Only now, I am hitting A for the GBA slot on my DS when the first timer reaches zero, instead of trying to soft reset. I started my calibration phase with the actual time I was aiming for. My first try I was off by only five frames. My second I was off by a dozen frames the other way. I tried a few dozen tries before I was too tired and had to go to sleep, but I was within +/- 20 frames on each attempt. Luckily, the spread I am aiming for at the moment is only about thirty second in [frame 2238: 0.37.30 -- Sassy -- 31/31/4/31/14/26]. I know the biggest trouble with Emerald RNG is the often long waits for a spread you want. It helps that at the moment I'm not caring about Nature or Shiny -- Only IV combinations.

Question though:
I don't see anything about determining encounter slots in Emerald. RNG reporter only tells the stats for Gen III not which slot the poke is... I would hate to be trying all this work for that frame to not even be a ditto. Anyone with experience on Gen III RNG able to advise me?

loucas
March 23rd, 2012, 05:29 AM
then i have my entry :D

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/172.png
Pichu
Jolly Nature
OT:Alexand ID:00227
Lv. 1
25/31/25/31/31/31


Mice* Hibernates during the winter, but they go out sometimes to collect food.

ABOUT THE TOPIC:

uh, well, i plan to rng everything i get one time in the game, (Volcarona, Virizion, etc) but as for normal pokes, i rng what i see is the easiest :D i hate NPCs.

Sydian
March 23rd, 2012, 04:23 PM
OOOPS. Haven't posted here in a while. I've learned how to RNG eggs in Platinum recently, and have gotten two eggs today. I was working on another, but I'm going to my grandmother's soon, so I'll just wait till I get there. Anyway...some stuff I've RNG'd on Black recently:

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/cherishball.pnghttp://www.pokestadium.com/pokemon/sprites/handheld/blackwhite/animated/644.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/cherishball.png
Zekrom lv. 100
Lonely | Teravolt
SPR2012 | 03102
14/31/6/31/25/20
[ Bolt Strike, Fusion Bolt, Haze, Outrage ]

I think it kinda sucks tbh. :( I don't even think the date I had to use makes him look legit, even though he is...was this event available March 10? I can't remember. :(

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/premierball.pnghttp://www.pokestadium.com/pokemon/sprites/handheld/blackwhite/animated/619.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/premierball.png
Lo Mein / Meinfoo lv. 33 (f)
Naive | Regenerator
Cedric | 26099
31/31/31/31/31/31
[ Swift, Calm Mind, Force Palm, Drain Punch ]

This one wasn't so bad. It's a panda right? Pandas totally hibernate PLUS this is a fighting type so if it wanted to, it COULD Wake-Up Slap you. Does it learn that? lol this totally counts js!! :(

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/healball.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/619.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/healball.png
Civilian / Mienfoo lv. 33 (f)
Naive | Regenerator
Cedric | 26099
insert crap ivs here
[ Swift, Calm Mind, Force Palm, Drain Punch ]

I just wanted a shiny one lol.

That's all for Black. Now today on Platinum, I have these:

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/187.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
FairyFloss / Hoppip lv. 1 (f)
Jolly | Leaf Guard
Ganon | 11057
didn't check her ivs yet
[ Splash, Encore, Tail Whip ]

I've always wanted a pink Jumpluff ever since it swept me on Shoddy. <3

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/207f.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Gligar lv. 1 (f)
Hardy | Hyper Cutter
Ganon | 11057
idk ivs
[ Poison Sting ]

Yeah the Gligar I was fed up with, since I had been trying for on in Black, failed at that, and decided I wanted an Aqua Tail Gligar anyway. So the whole reason I learned egg RNG in gen IV is for this thing here, and I didn't even get a good nature. lol This is the result of 1. test runs and 2. impatience.

As far as the topic goes, I just kinda RNG out of the blue. Pokemon who have nice shinies that I've always desired, Pokemon I'm randomly interested in, etc. So not really planned most of the time. I do plan on going for Modest Hydro Pump Bagon and a Modest Dark Pulse Deino. Both shiny, obv. lol[/SIZE]

Cordelia
March 23rd, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nice abuses everyone! Glad to see people getting in the spirit of the challenge. I just did a RNG for our lovely TwilightBlade tonight!

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/341.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Corphish ♂ Lv. 1
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Adaptability
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Bubble, Superpower, Dragon Dance, ***
Non-Redis

Woot ^^

twistedpuppy
March 23rd, 2012, 07:30 PM
I did the challenge I didn't want to do. Here is Oddish.

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/043.png
Oddish http://veekun.com/dex/media/items/friend-ball.png
Modest | Chlorophyll | Lv.5
Absorb | Sweet Scent
31 | 26 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 30 [HP http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/type/fire.gif 70]

Oddish is a plant and plants "sleep" during the winter. Improvised. >.>

Cordelia
March 24th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Thank you everyone for participating in the challenge with great abuses! Now, time for the next challenge!

March 23rd was International Puppy Day... so RNG a Pokemon that you'd keep as a pet!

Make sure you explain why this Pokemon would be a good pet.

RingoH
March 24th, 2012, 07:44 AM
Thank you everyone for participating in the challenge with great abuses! Now, time for the next challenge!

March 23rd was International Puppy Day... so RNG a Pokemon that you'd keep as a pet!


But Mac... I think I'ld keep ANY of them as a pet... Do you mind me suggesting that we have to explain why it would make a good pet?

Cordelia
March 24th, 2012, 08:47 AM
But Mac... I think I'ld keep ANY of them as a pet... Do you mind me suggesting that we have to explain why it would make a good pet?

OK sure I'll add that. ^^ Thanks.

Feralize
March 24th, 2012, 01:45 PM
All right, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my ID abuse earlier.

My new problem is that I can hit my target delay, but I'm not getting my desired ID/SID.

RingoH
March 24th, 2012, 02:56 PM
All right, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my ID abuse earlier.

My new problem is that I can hit my target delay, but I'm not getting my desired ID/SID.

Which game are you doing ID/SID abuse in? And are you getting the same "wrong" ID each time?

The only game I've tried [succeeded too] was Black [going to get a second copy of Platinum to do soon though].

loucas
March 24th, 2012, 03:37 PM
All right, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my ID abuse earlier.

My new problem is that I can hit my target delay, but I'm not getting my desired ID/SID.

Try checking your initial frame first, and try to focus on one seed rather than changing everytime you didnt hit. Happens to me when i did my id/sid, reporter doesnt tell right initial frame, well atleast for me it didnt

Btw you can tell what your initial seed is when you Check what seed you have hit on the middle tab pandora's box

Gonzo
March 24th, 2012, 04:14 PM
erm... the word DELAY indicates it's 4th gen ^^

you prolly get seconds other than desired. I had that issue.

For example, you want to hit 50 seconds but you hit the delay and 53 seconds. Adjust you timer to 47 seconds instead of 50 sa target seconds. It will work. Just just add x when you're x seconds before target and substract x if you're x seconds after the target. :)

loucas
March 24th, 2012, 04:24 PM
erm... the word DELAY indicates it's 4th gen ^^

you prolly get seconds other than desired. I had that issue.

For example, you want to hit 50 seconds but you hit the delay and 53 seconds. Adjust you timer to 47 seconds instead of 50 sa target seconds. It will work. Just just add x when you're x seconds before target and substract x if you're x seconds after the target. :)

Oh, silly me. Go ahead, don't mind me, go talk your talk. Idk where you get the patience regarding IV gen.

Feralize
March 24th, 2012, 07:22 PM
erm... the word DELAY indicates it's 4th gen ^^

you prolly get seconds other than desired. I had that issue.

For example, you want to hit 50 seconds but you hit the delay and 53 seconds. Adjust you timer to 47 seconds instead of 50 sa target seconds. It will work. Just just add x when you're x seconds before target and substract x if you're x seconds after the target. :)

How do I determine how many seconds off I am?

LegendaryFSK
March 24th, 2012, 07:51 PM
Challenge Complete. First thing I thought of was Squirtle! Squirtle will always be a favorite of mine as he was my very first starter/pokémon. I thought way back then that Squirtle would make an amazing pet...I still do to this day. Not sure how well Squirtle and my dog would get along, but I would hope they could be friends. lol. Plus, a lot of people keep turtles as pets...so Squirtle would be perfect.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/007.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Squirtle http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Bold | Torrent | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Rapid Spin | Scald | Yawn | Protect

johnny18
March 24th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Thank you everyone for participating in the challenge with great abuses! Now, time for the next challenge!

March 23rd was International Puppy Day... so RNG a Pokemon that you'd keep as a pet!

Make sure you explain why this Pokemon would be a good pet.
I do not have time to do challenges anymore :(

Squirrel
March 25th, 2012, 05:14 AM
International Puppy Day... This exists? xD Anyway, I did the chellenge ^^ I thought what better to catch as a pet than a Lillipup :3 I think my reasons are obvious haha. It's shiny with 31/31/31/x/31/31, I think x was around the 15 mark :3 Bad ability though D: