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Forever
March 11th, 2012, 03:05 AM
So, you know how Suicune's (I think?) signature said every generation needs a remake? Well think about this, does having B2/W2 eliminate the possibility for eventual remakes of B/W or of B2/W2 - and if there ARE remakes, which set of games would they concentrate on, or would there be four versions of remakes? Do you think the end of Unova will be at generation 5 due to this curve ball? Discuss!

If you want to discuss the "3rd" (but really 5th) game in generation 5, use the thread for that. :3

Also, this is Vapor's idea but he won't make it. :(

Giraffe
March 11th, 2012, 05:09 AM
Maybe Grey would be the remake of B2/W2, but then again, maybe they'd be stretching ittoo far in remaking remakes, if B2/W2 are classed as remakes?
Oh gosh, it's all getting so confusing ~

wombateiro
March 11th, 2012, 05:44 AM
I've got a feeling there won't be actual B/W, B2/W2 and D/P/Pt remakes for another platform. I think everything will end up by having every region available in DS games, so imo R/S remakes are going to be released soon for DS. Maybe there would be also another Red/Green remakes for DS, but not necessarily, because Kanto was featured so many times and is already in DS game - HG/SS.

Also I don't see "3rd" game for Unova because it looks like B2/W2 are going to serve as 3rd game with new features. It can be said that 3rd game is needed because full Kyurem form (assuming it will exist in games) should be a mascot but that's not really necessary because that final form could be something like Arceus - obtainable only from events or by hacking.

As for future 3DS game - after making all previous regions available in DS games, imo the best thing to do would be creating ultimate game with new huge region with all gens' Pokemon available to meet from the start.

Railgun
March 11th, 2012, 06:48 AM
Maybe Grey would be the remake of B2/W2, but then again, maybe they'd be stretching ittoo far in remaking remakes, if B2/W2 are classed as remakes?
Oh gosh, it's all getting so confusing ~

*Facepalm* Are we still all thinking BW 2 are BW remakes? For the love of god....

Khrysta
March 11th, 2012, 09:02 AM
Well until Coro Coro comes out we know nothing about B2W2 so as of right now they can be remakes of B/W. Same story with bonus content and slightly altered main story. We have no info on the actual story and with the surprises we've had with the unveiling of B2W2 at this point anything is indeed possible.

So as far as I disagree with Hoen making an appearance in B2W2 (which I agree is very low possibility) there is still an odd chance that Gamefreak will do it.

I don't think Gamefreak will ever do one game with all regions cause Masuda said he doesn't like the prospect of that kinda project. (It came up along side the will Gamefreak ever make a Home Console Main Game which he answered with no)

If we still get separate game Remakes I'm going to shoot for 1 Game Remake of R/S and another game remake of R/B since those two are still on GBA titles which would entitle both to being remade again. I'm still siding with the They'll make remakes based on what system is outdated and connectivity compatibility. If B2W2 cannot connect with D/P/Pt/SS/HG then I can see those two specific game sets being remade to keep connectivity of the generations intact.

Azure
March 11th, 2012, 09:08 AM
Well we could see an Emerald remake instead of two remakes as the poster above said hence why we are getting two sequels instead of one and yeah, I do think this could possibly eliminate the need of BW remakes in several years time. Unless graphics evolve drastically then this will probably be the last of Unova. I highly doubt we would get a third game of B2W2, that is just too much Unova!

Bluerang1
March 11th, 2012, 09:11 AM
I'm pretty sure remakes will end with the R/S remakes because DPPt has been slightly rendered in 3D and have the new Sugimori art also.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
March 11th, 2012, 09:50 AM
I think Forever is trying to say what would happen if BW were to be remade later down the down and if so which games would they concentrate on...
Maybe the remakes for BW in the future would be one that focuses on Black and White called Grey (instead of being called something Black and something White) and Grey 2...

Railgun
March 11th, 2012, 10:14 AM
I think Forever is trying to say what would happen if BW were to be remade later down the down and if so which games would they concentrate on...
Maybe the remakes for BW in the future would be one that focuses on Black and White called Grey (instead of being called something Black and something White) and Grey 2...

If they even are doing remakes anymore. Most people say the remake era is over due to every gen being connected. Idk. Could happen I guess. Guess we can only wait

vaporeon7
March 11th, 2012, 11:31 AM
This wasn't even my idea, I meant something else D<

Anyway, we won't be seeing Unova after B2/W2 for a long time (like if they were to remake B/W in 10 years, which is what I meant). I think that people will be sick enough of exploring the same region for so many years. If what you meant what was just said before then, which is what I meant, then I think that we will probably only get B/W remakes, because we never got Yellow remakes or anything. I'm not sure though, because there will be different plot lines and everything.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
March 11th, 2012, 01:12 PM
B/W won't be remade for many years down the road, if at all. and B2/W2 will be even longer, since I can't picture GameFreak bombarding us with four games at once. But again, I don't imagine they'd do this at least until the franchise appears on a Nintendo handheld console that's completely incompatible with the DS/DSi/3DS family. Which, considering the 3DS just came out, is many years down the road. 7th or 8th gen, at the earliest.

Don't care about R/S/E being remade, I liked the originals at first but eventually grew sick of Hoenn. They'll do it for the money but it won't be my money they'll get.

Mr Cat Dog
March 11th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Surely they'll just get remade when there's the SUPER-AWESOME-3DSSPGTWER or whatever the new console is going to be? Unless the remakes stop printing money for Nintendo, in which they probably won't be remade.

Andrew McKenzie
March 13th, 2012, 03:42 AM
Honestly, I think by the time there's ever need for a B/W and/or B2/W2 remake, the handhelds and cartridges would be powerful enough to encompass both the original 5th gen and its sequel.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
March 13th, 2012, 03:30 PM
They could emcomporate time travel within the remakes of the two...unless Bw and B2w2 are solo pairs then in that case they might make four remakes of the Unova region...too much Unova for me...

Mr. Magius
March 15th, 2012, 08:46 PM
I don't think B/W and B2/W2 will get remakes. The features are too advanced (that might be saying too much), and the reason the other games got remakes were because they weren't 'modern' enough, and because they were so classic that people wanted to see them redone.

If anything, things will get remade for a home video console, like the Wii U, giving everything life.

rocky505
March 15th, 2012, 08:48 PM
BW could get remakes just not for a long time. Same for DP. RSE are the only games not in up to date graphics.

voicerocker
March 15th, 2012, 09:04 PM
Not so sure we should be discussing remakes for a game that just came out last year. If they were to even consider it, it would be many years before it would actually happen. Way, WAY to early for that.

In terms of a potential "Pokemon Gray", I don't think so. Kyurem is the mascot of B/W 2, so we know these games will explain its story. There is no need for a Gray version.

Forever
March 15th, 2012, 09:26 PM
@ last few posts: What we're wondering is whether B2/W2 will be concentrated upon, or just BW, basically (so to have two sets of remakes). Not whether Unova as a whole will have remakes, because that's a boring thing to wonder + chances are at least one of the "two" will have remakes. :(

I do think BW will have the remakes, probably, because it'll be closer to when B2/W2 was released, and from the way BW is written, it doesn't really imply "sequel", while in the sequel, it'd imply past events, so you can't really do one without the other, I'd assume.

SlaveNumber23
March 22nd, 2012, 03:24 AM
I'm thinking a sort of global remake would be better, one huge game spanning all regions, that would be awesome.

Cello
March 28th, 2012, 07:00 AM
I doubt it's eliminated any possibility of there being a remake of either the first two or their sequels. Though at the same time I feel like GameFreak is eventually going to move out of the remake phase, as a remake of a remake just doesn't sound right.

But yeah, if there were to be any remakes, it'll probably be way further on down the road.

SnowpointQuincy
April 2nd, 2012, 06:00 AM
Eventually, all of the pokemon games will need a remake in 3D models. The 3D graphics would really make the game a different experience. However, by the time that happens, I would like to abandon the idea of 'remakes'. Just because a game is set in Hoenn that doesn't mean that it MUST be a remake of RSE. Why can't we have original games set in old regions?

BW2 might be the start of this trend. (without the awesome 3D part... yet)

Plasmette
April 2nd, 2012, 05:38 PM
Eventually, all of the pokemon games will need a remake in 3D models. The 3D graphics would really make the game a different experience. However, by the time that happens, I would like to abandon the idea of 'remakes'. Just because a game is set in Hoenn that doesn't mean that it MUST be a remake of RSE. Why can't we have original games set in old regions?

BW2 might be the start of this trend. (without the awesome 3D part... yet)

Agreed. Take Kanto and GOld and Silver for example. You're in Kanto, but have a different goal as opposed to doing the same crap in the first game. Its not much of a plot...but its still diffrent.

As for B/W remakes. I think the remakes will have to halt at some point. I don't think they can remake D/P, mainly because everything is already a 3d model. Sure, the graphics in B/W are a BIG step up, but everything is still 3d. (With the exception of the characters and NPC's)

Raichupacabra
April 2nd, 2012, 06:37 PM
"Chrome Black and Colorless White coming to a market near you in Spring 2021"

Eww.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
April 3rd, 2012, 06:39 AM
I don't think that the games themselves eliminate the possiblity of remakes, though they do make it difficult for them story plot wise when the time to remake comes should it ever...it'll be interesting to see them remake all four, because they would need to add a whole lot (there's nothing to drain from a third version unlike generations 1-4 remakes) if not they would be the same as the originals...
I guess they could do double save file and that way make the remakes (one for White and other for White 2,ect.)

Briankelly130
April 3rd, 2012, 06:56 AM
Well it's possible that if whatever console is around by the time remaking these games becomes a possibility, they might have the ability to take the core plots of both games, combine them and just use the better aspects of both games to fill it out.

Jobrjo
April 11th, 2012, 09:10 AM
I do not think there should be a continuation/remake of Black/White, that is not yet. My primary reason for this is as follows:
In every example so far, any remakes/continuations would be 2 Generations after the original; in other words, there would be a generation between them. For example: a -> b -> A, where "a" is the original, and "A" is the remake. This can be seen with Red/Green -> FireRed/LeafGreen as well as Gold/Silver -> HeartGold/SoulSilver; in all of those there is a Generation in-between. (Note: the Stadium series does not follow this. However, the Stadium series is not part of the core of the main games, just a a main games. Box Ruby and Sapphire also breaks this, being only one Generation away; but it too is not part of the core of the main series. {Non-core main games are Stadium, Stadium 2, Colosseum, Box Ruby and Sapphire, XD, Battle Revolution, My Pokemon Ranch.}) Black 2/White 2 violate this, being not 2 Generations away, but even in the same.
Rather they should go with either a Hoenn remake/continuation or a new region again.
Your thoughts?

P.S. It won't effect me much, seeing as all I have is Fire Red :P

Killjoy
April 11th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Well if it is a true sequel, then it's not really a remake at all. They're just continuing the story. It sounds like the differences between BW and BW2 are going to exceed that one H/S vs HG/SS.

RunnerGuyTim
April 11th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Black and White 2 are sequels, not remakes. Black and White started to show an effort at making a story within the Pokemon series. The next game will most likely be based around N again, but in a new region. I think it's a great idea to make a sequel, it's something new and fresh. Unlike making a "pokemon grey" which is pretty much the same as Black/White but with minor updates and tweaks. I am honestly glad they made a White/Black 2. I don't want a brand new generation or a remake of Ruby until Pokemon is ported to 3ds.

Jobrjo
April 11th, 2012, 10:31 AM
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with seuals/continuations instead of remakes. It's a brilliant idea really. But I'm just saying that it should still be in Generation 7, to keep the pattern and allow other games in Generation 5, which would come with several benifits such as trading and battleing against Pokemon of diifferent regions instead of the same.

KingCyndaquil
April 11th, 2012, 02:39 PM
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with seuals/continuations instead of remakes. It's a brilliant idea really. But I'm just saying that it should still be in Generation 7, to keep the pattern and allow other games in Generation 5, which would come with several benifits such as trading and battleing against Pokemon of diifferent regions instead of the same.

*Generation 6

and yes, I think so, i don't think its a good idea to wait two games later to make a sequel, especially if the game came out almost 2 in a half years ago O.o

SnowpointQuincy
April 11th, 2012, 02:42 PM
We don't know what BW2 will be. if we go to all the same places, in the same order, i would agree, but we will have to wait and see.
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Forever
April 11th, 2012, 03:30 PM
I do not think there should be a continuation/remake of Black/White, that is not yet. My primary reason for this is as follows:
In every example so far, any remakes/continuations would be 2 Generations after the original; in other words, there would be a generation between them. For example: a -> b -> A, where "a" is the original, and "A" is the remake. This can be seen with Red/Green -> FireRed/LeafGreen as well as Gold/Silver -> HeartGold/SoulSilver; in all of those there is a Generation in-between. (Note: the Stadium series does not follow this. However, the Stadium series is not part of the core of the main games, just a a main games. Box Ruby and Sapphire also breaks this, being only one Generation away; but it too is not part of the core of the main series. {Non-core main games are Stadium, Stadium 2, Colosseum, Box Ruby and Sapphire, XD, Battle Revolution, My Pokemon Ranch.}) Black 2/White 2 violate this, being not 2 Generations away, but even in the same.
Rather they should go with either a Hoenn remake/continuation or a new region again.
Your thoughts?

P.S. It won't effect me much, seeing as all I have is Fire Red :P

While these games aren't remakes, I feel that from your point of view, it'd be beneficial to be merged to the thread covering remakes - since I forgot to include the aspect of discussion "can the sequels be considered remakes in the normal pattern - and thus also eliminate the eventual remakes possibility", sooo continue discussing here if you'd like. :)

dannyboy601
April 12th, 2012, 09:38 AM
Well, I think now we can safely assume BW2 are sequels. Anyway, I think it is actually possible that they remake both pairs of games on the same cartridge, giving the player the option to choose which game to play on the menu. That is if Game Freak are willing to put in the effort, of course.

MagikarpFTW
April 13th, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mabye we will get a remake on the 4DS or 5DS or 6DS or whatever in like 2021

Reshiram Man
April 13th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mabye we will get a remake on the 4DS or 5DS or 6DS or whatever in like 2021

Slow down there with the _DS thing. I could understand 4DS maybe, with a new 4th dimension! Well, probably not on the 4D deal, that would be a little much.

3DS was named for, yours truly: 3D playing.