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gunnerpow7
April 11th, 2012, 10:20 PM
In the May CoroCoro issue, many things have been revealed about Unova itself. It was also said that this version's Unova takes place 2 years after B/W.

1. The northern and eastern parts of Unova have been covered by this ice, and Opelucid City is just on the border of being covered.

2. There appear to be cave entrances to the glacier.

3. There are two new towns and at least on new route to the southwest.

4. The road between Castelia City and Nimbasa City is complete.

5. A new building has been added to the front of Nimbasa City, and a new area to the east of the Rondez-View Ferris Wheel.

6. Driftveil City's lighthouse is gone, and several craters have appeared in the city.

7. There is now a settlement on Route 4

8. Liberty Garden is now shown of the official artwork of the map, and appears to have been revamped.

9. The construction zone and Freezing Container south of Driftveil are both gone.

10. There is a section taken out of the side of the mountain in eastern Unova, and there are several buildings here.

11. Challenger's Cave has disappeared.

12. The Entralink's moat is now dry, and the inner area has changed.

13. The new starting city is Hiougi City, located in the south-west of the map.

So... What are your thoughts about Unova, 2 years later?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
April 11th, 2012, 10:25 PM
It looks cool, and sounds a bit distopic... what caused those crater's in Driefveil...
I wonder if Victini will no longer be present in Liberty island...

Crimson5M
April 12th, 2012, 02:38 AM
It looks cool, and sounds a bit distopic... what caused those crater's in Driefveil...
I wonder if Victini will no longer be present in Liberty island...

I was thinking this may be a meteor shower or something, since Kyurem came from space, but it being in B/W kinda goes against that :x

But anyway, the most surprising one imo is Challanger's Cave...was sure there was going to be something there...

miltankRancher
April 12th, 2012, 05:36 AM
It seems okay. Not what I expected, but pretty much okay. The only thing that bothjers me is...


NEW STARTING TOWN???

yes.

gunnerpow7
April 12th, 2012, 05:41 AM
It seems okay. Not what I expected, but pretty much okay. The only thing that bothjers me is...


NEW STARTING TOWN???

yes.

Technically, it is a new starting city... Not a town...

Blue
April 12th, 2012, 06:08 AM
I originally stated that I thought Route 4 would be constructed and by the sounds of things looks like it is! I also love the new city.

Forever
April 12th, 2012, 06:41 AM
I wonder what their reasons behind those changes are. Like for example, how can you just remove Challenger's Cave? irl, I mean, if that happened irl, what'd the reason for that be, etc. As for everything else, it all just seems interesting. I reaaaally can't wait to find out more. XD;

Comerion
April 12th, 2012, 07:06 AM
This is gonna be interesting, especially if like, there are new pokemon and stuff.

Esper
April 12th, 2012, 10:18 AM
I didn't notice that Route 4 had been completed, though I'd always thought that would be an obvious choice for something new in a sequel game. That should make things different enough when going to old locations. New buildings and changes to the terrain just for the sake of something different seem like good enough reasons to me.

Blue
April 12th, 2012, 10:20 AM
These games should drum up a wide range of speculation because really there is so much to speculate about with so little information, there's clearly a purpose for these games being set 2 years later, will N return older, will Ghetsis have an involvement?

ceremony
April 12th, 2012, 10:27 AM
I wonder how they'll deal with this "two years later" gimmick. I mean, the character has supposedly caught all the legends two years ago, and caught Kyruem, but now there's another Kyruem, and it has different forms now?

Or is "the trainer two years ago didn't catch any of the legendaries at all" the canon situation?

TheChaosBlue
April 12th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I see that this being sequels....nah, wouldn't be a main series Pokemon game without catching some legendaries, sequels be damned.

Things are a lot more mature in the Unova region, while being more advanced than the original! Underwater, walkable tunnels? Nice....

I really want to see how much, if at all, Castelia City has changed. being from NYC, it's my favorite city in any Pokemon game... :p

brightbus
April 12th, 2012, 12:44 PM
According to those same scans, the unova dex will now also include several of the older pokemon such as Lapras, Arcanine and others. This fixes one of the problems I had with Black and White, which was no older pokemon until after the elite four. Hopefully they also put gym rematches back in.

TheChaosBlue
April 12th, 2012, 12:53 PM
According to those same scans, the unova dex will now also include several of the older pokemon such as Lapras, Arcanine and others. This fixes one of the problems I had with Black and White, which was no older pokemon until after the elite four. Hopefully they also put gym rematches back in.

BW had 156 new Pokemon in thier regional Pokedex, so not having older Pokemon to catch before the Elite Four was already elborated on...

Gym Rematches I expected to be in BW and was bummed it wasn't implemented, so I hope it does for BW2 as well.

Blue
April 12th, 2012, 01:00 PM
I never expected it to be this altered, there's new cities, gyms, characters everything! It actually makes it worth buying.

Chiar
April 12th, 2012, 01:03 PM
If parts of it are actually frozen, then not. If they aren't, then yes because it has more locations.

RedJ
April 12th, 2012, 02:20 PM
I wonder how they'll deal with this "two years later" gimmick. I mean, the character has supposedly caught all the legends two years ago, and caught Kyruem, but now there's another Kyruem, and it has different forms now?

Or is "the trainer two years ago didn't catch any of the legendaries at all" the canon situation?

I'm pretty sure there are multiple legendaries out there. Most of them have appeared in some form outside their respective games, so it's entirely possible that this isn't that same Kyurem.

...or maybe it is? Hmm...

TheChaosBlue
April 12th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Is it that....Game Freak is more focused on the story behind the 2 years later Unova (and subsequent role of the major characters) than ever? BW tried that with the Team Plasma thing and all, but the region itself left a lot mysteries.

A more story-driven game...LE GASP!

Xander Olivieri
April 12th, 2012, 03:17 PM
I wonder how they'll deal with this "two years later" gimmick. I mean, the character has supposedly caught all the legends two years ago, and caught Kyruem, but now there's another Kyruem, and it has different forms now?

Or is "the trainer two years ago didn't catch any of the legendaries at all" the canon situation?

Canon wise Hilbert/Hilda and N only catch Reshiram/Zekrom and nothing else. All the other Legends are open to catch.

LordSalamence
April 13th, 2012, 04:52 AM
Does anybody of you remind the giant chasm,nuvema town,and the pokemon league.maybe there will be two kyurems one doesn't make any sense to me.

Forever
April 13th, 2012, 08:07 AM
I was just looking at the map... what's on the other side of the desert we can't reach? Why can't we reach it? It just seems kinda weird that it was larger in BW and now it's suddenly smaller, as in where we can access. What'd they do with the resort? ;;

TheChaosBlue
April 13th, 2012, 08:51 AM
I was just looking at the map... what's on the other side of the desert we can't reach? Why can't we reach it? It just seems kinda weird that it was larger in BW and now it's suddenly smaller, as in where we can access. What'd they do with the resort? ;;

Maybe two years of constant construction, tourism, and environmental change caused the resort to crumble away. To be fair, it was on the verge of being a lost cause.

G_Sylar
April 13th, 2012, 09:21 AM
No news about a battle frontier?

Xander Olivieri
April 13th, 2012, 09:24 AM
No news about a battle frontier?

Nothing officially but I started another speculation with a new building that could be hints to another Battle Frontier.

Patchisou Yutohru
April 13th, 2012, 10:08 AM
Nothing officially but I started another speculation with a new building that could be hints to another Battle Frontier.
Oh, god. DX I hate those things!

Kaori
April 13th, 2012, 11:09 AM
These games should drum up a wide range of speculation because really there is so much to speculate about with so little information, there's clearly a purpose for these games being set 2 years later, will N return older, will Ghetsis have an involvement?
Emphasis on "so much". We've never had anything done like this before (I don't really count GSC) and it really amazes me how well it's being done. At least for what we know.

So, Unova 2 years later. I'm really excited to see how this all works out. I expect to hear a lot about past Unova and lots of information of how it is now from different characters in the story. Being only 2 years later, I hope the previous protagonists still live in Nuvema town and we get to see them as small guest appearances.

Forever
April 13th, 2012, 05:40 PM
Emphasis on "so much". We've never had anything done like this before (I don't really count GSC) and it really amazes me how well it's being done. At least for what we know.

So, Unova 2 years later. I'm really excited to see how this all works out. I expect to hear a lot about past Unova and lots of information of how it is now from different characters in the story. Being only 2 years later, I hope the previous protagonists still live in Nuvema town and we get to see them as small guest appearances.

I much prefer the idea of the final gym being there (I...forgot who mentioned it, though I have a feeling it was Touj), rather than the first protagonists being found there. Somewhere else, sure, but I'd rather that the town itself grew over the last 2 years.

Kaori
April 13th, 2012, 05:45 PM
I much prefer the idea of the final gym being there (I...forgot who mentioned it, though I have a feeling it was Touj), rather than the first protagonists being found there. Somewhere else, sure, but I'd rather that the town itself grew over the last 2 years.
But why? Having the final gym there seems out of place. The protagonist took their first steps out of that town with their rivals, and it was a touching moment. Nuvema seems like the only place for them to be in.

I understand where you come from with all the town/city development after 2 years, but if Nuvema stayed the same I think it would be more nostalgic and like "home".

Hiroshi Sotomura
April 13th, 2012, 08:24 PM
The new changes beg a question: are the new towns in the south east of Unova actually part of the changes in the two years that have passed (as in, entirely new settlements)? Or, have they always been there?

Kaori
April 13th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Well since they're covered in forestry in B/W, I'd like to say that over the 2 years they started cutting it down to build these towns/cities. I'm sure GameFreak would want people to see it that way too, if anything. :P

Forever
April 13th, 2012, 08:29 PM
I'd say they weren't always there tbh. Just looking at the forest, there is no way there could've been life there before. What I'm wondering though is why they decided to expand east?

Raichupacabra
April 13th, 2012, 09:13 PM
I wonder how they'll deal with this "two years later" gimmick. I mean, the character has supposedly caught all the legends two years ago, and caught Kyruem, but now there's another Kyruem, and it has different forms now?

Or is "the trainer two years ago didn't catch any of the legendaries at all" the canon situation?

The trainer in Black / White only technically caught Reshiram / Zekrom. In Black 2 / White 2, Kyurem is going to be the legend.

Kaori
April 15th, 2012, 12:48 PM
I don't know how slow I am, but it just occurred to me that Black and White was released in Japan two years ago, so having Unova take place two years later (even in real life!) is so accurate. 8)

I'm expecting to hear a lot about the changes in Unova via different characters in the game. If Bianca doesn't make an appearance, I think I'm going to be a little disappointed. I'd like to see if she matured after two years.