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latios tamer
December 3rd, 2003, 08:22 PM
this team hase all pokemon at level 100

blaziken

latios

latias

flygon

rayquaza

last but not least, salemence :dead:

ashley03
December 3rd, 2003, 08:26 PM
this team hase all pokemon at level 100

blaziken

latios

latias

flygon

rayquaza

last but not least, salemence :dead:


LOL

my team consists of all togetic L:100


ciao,ashley03

Frostweaver
December 3rd, 2003, 08:29 PM
a) rather useless to see the pokemon name alone... like a battle between Salamence and Starmie can have 2 totally different outcome depending on moveset *coughicebeamcough*. Tell us your moveset!

b) EV distributions?

c) tell us your items

d) check your Pokemon's stats to see if they support your moveset

e) list out your desired personality... they play a big role in the game

latios tamer
December 3rd, 2003, 10:00 PM
blaziken- double kick, sky uppercut, overheat, blaze kick

latios- luster purge, dragon claw, fly, psykick

latias- same as latios

rayquaza- extreme speed, thunder, surf, dive

flygon- sand-attack, faint attack, earthquake, crunch

salamence- headbutt, scary face, fire blast, dragonbreath

:chinese: ( bow )

Frostweaver
December 3rd, 2003, 10:15 PM
first of all... invalid moveset for latias x_x

secondly, this team violates many common new player's mistakes. Check out the Pokemon Advanced Trainer's Guide in the Ruby/Sapphire section to learn about these common mistakes and how to beat a semi-decent team. (once you get the hang of the metagame, you'll automatically pick up what's a good move and what's a bad move)

because right now... 5x ice weakness is completely beyond imagination... not to mention that this team will be completely annilihated by Sceptile (can destroy your whole team except blaziken), other Rayquazas and many others. It's lunch time for Curselax, and this will become the new prey under Dusclops and its voodoo dolls...

latios tamer
December 3rd, 2003, 10:51 PM
hey frostweaver can you do anything besides criticize people i've read some other repleys that you made and i think you held yourself back, besides this team is way better than any you can make



p.s. latias can yoos those moves

sh3rry
December 4th, 2003, 12:10 AM
um... latias cant learn luster purge O_o, and frosty is just helping you. so say "thank you", leave, read some good pokemon guides and come back when you've learned something. im just giving suggestions. hehehe.

Frostweaver
December 4th, 2003, 01:05 AM
If you think I'm holding back, then I'll give you a direct fix with these Pokemon right now. Though with such a big dragon/ice weakness, this team won't live long at all... not to mention that most of these pokemon's movepool are all special based *coughblisseycough*

Perhaps with 2 soul dews at once, this team will do something (however soul dews are banned most of the time). Due to my usual resource site Psypoke is down, I may not remember some of the egg moves (which will affect the moveset). Once Psypoke is up I'll come back here again. Either way on with the direct fix!


Flygon (lead)- +spatt/-att @ leftovers
-flamethrower
-dragon claw
-rest
-crunch

Latios- +att/-sp.att @ leftovers
-recover
-dragon dance
-shadowball
-HP Fighting

dragon dancing sweeper... he's your best chance to lure out Blissey and finish it off with HP Fighting (but if you use dragon dance even once, that blissey will remain in hiding forever). Hopefully it'll damage Regice so it's easier for the others to kill it off before its ice beam faints Latios.

Latias- +sp.att/-att @ soul dew/leftovers
-recover
-ice beam
-calm mind
-thunderbolt

Special sweeper... dropped psychic as this team is very strong against fighting types already. However Latias is one of the few pokemon who can learn both ice beam+thunderbolt and use both attacks just as well on your team. Latias will be your star player against the water types with ice beam.

Blaziken- +att/-sp.att @ salac berry
-endure
-reversal
-overheat
-earthquake

Very classical moveset.

Salamence- +att/-spatt @ leftovers
-brick break (VITAL)
-roar
-hyper beam/rest
-aerial ace

instead of the usual salamence with rest, you can go hyper beam to score KOs (in appropriate times of course, and near death only unless the deal is very irresistable like knocking out Regice, Snorlax or Slaking). If you're not thrilled with that idea, use the altnerative set listed. If you want to risk, you may want to even use choice band.

Rayquaza- (neutral) @ leftovers
-surf
-thunderbolt
-rest
-return/aerial ace/hp ghost

I don't even know what I am suppose to do with this guy... it's pretty much a duplication of many other Pokemon on this team just with different stats x_x


Stuff to take note of:
-you can replace the 2 recover with rest just in case of ninetales, gardevoir, dusclops or lanturn messing up with you (don't forget the deadly Smeragle!)

-Dusclops can sweep this team easily if you don't switch to Salamence immediately

-Regice is still highly dangerous, even if I added 3 more fighting moves. Snorlax I'm not too worried about it anymore as I went paranoid with him.

-Blissey can sweep half of the team here alone

-a whole team of sweepers pretty much... this is another word for prey to Claydol ruling (if Salamence dies and if the opponent has Claydol... best of luck fighting cosmic power)

-pray before every battle that the opponent has Skarmory ;)

-most likely you aren't going to be too much battle with this team due to soul dew, and 3 legendary Pokemon. However an experienced player will be too glad to accept this x5 ice/dragon team

latios tamer
December 4th, 2003, 08:30 PM
ohmygod again with the insults




p.s. is that the best you can do (i mean with the insults)

Chimou
December 4th, 2003, 08:36 PM
It's just another boring all-rare party. I've seen a thousand of these before.

Spike Razzor
December 4th, 2003, 08:44 PM
Latios Tamer, you really are clueless. Frost doesn't insult anyone, it just because he actually knows whats hes saying that your getting your panties in a bunch. Seriously, you come here with a so called perfect team and start getting this unknown ego boost. Any 2 day old n00b could beat the ingame trainers using 4 legendaries and claim to be the best, and seeing how 5 out of the 6 Pokemon you have Ice weakness I would strongly take the advice. 1 Mewtwo with Ice Beam would with no dought own your pathetic, 1st grade excuse for a team without as much as 3 hits on it. Salamence, Rayqauzaa, Flygon all have x4 Ice weakness (this means they would die with one single hit). Blaziken would die from Psychic and the Laties would take up to 3 hits before dying. And if you can't type up a well educated debate on why your team is so great then just leave. Its pretty obvious you don't know a thing.

Have a nice day =3 ~Spike Razzor~

Chimou
December 4th, 2003, 08:59 PM
I choose to go with what I like: Pikachu, Blaziken, Alakazam, Swellow, and Gyarados. I still manage to kick some serious butt, so I consider them to be a good team. I really could care less about the statistics.

Spike Razzor
December 4th, 2003, 09:04 PM
=3 Everyone has a fun team they like to use once in a while, I often put non stratigic Pokemon on my team and just go to the Battle Tower, I actually beat it using a suped up Luvdsic XD! Its moves where:Rain Dance, Water Pulse, Take Down, and Attract lol!

latios tamer
December 4th, 2003, 09:24 PM
hey spike head i've been in the pokemon business from when i was 4 okay i just recently became a member. i might have been rong about the latias thing but this teem can woop your butt any day.


:laugh: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :cheeky: :) :sleeping:

Spike Razzor
December 4th, 2003, 09:27 PM
hey spike head i've been in the pokemon business from when i was 4 okay i just recently became a member. i might have been rong about the latias thing but this teem can woop your butt any day.


:laugh: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :cheeky: :) :sleeping:
You are sad and pathetic, anyone can talk crap online =3 (this means you). If you want to feel the full force of a player who has been there since Pokemon came out. Then bring it, get R/Sbot and you will get owned. A trained chimp could own you anyday, so why step up with 2% skill level? Come on talk to me, your no debating, only making yourself look like an idiot.

Any skilled trainer knows you can't win using 2 attacking moves of the same element (your Blaziken for example knows Sky Uppercut and Double Kick. Its Sky Uppercut over a weak move like Double Kick)

And if you where with Pokemon since you was 4 (which is a lie), that makes you 9 - 10 (maybe this explains why you are so clueless O.o).

*takes the time to spell check your poorly written statment*
The first letter of a word at the begining of a sentance is always a capital, a persons name is always capitalized, even if its in the middle of something then the letter "i" by itself is always capitalized, Its wrong not rong, team not teem, and its whoop not woop.

latios tamer
December 4th, 2003, 09:48 PM
actualy i have been in the business since i was four, i may not have been so involved but yes i have been into pokemon :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Frostweaver
December 4th, 2003, 09:48 PM
hey spike head i've been in the pokemon business from when i was 4 okay i just recently became a member. i might have been rong about the latias thing but this teem can woop your butt any day.


:laugh: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :cheeky: :) :sleeping:


and this simple mistake alone of mistaking one Pokemon's signature move for another Pokemon's signature move doesn't suggest that you're a good player already...

Assuming what you say is true, you are first introduced to Pokemon in RBY days when you're 4. If you play Pokemon when you're so young, I don't think the first few years count as it's very unlikely for a 4 year old to believe that amnesia > hyper beam back in RBY days.

Further assuming that you have accumulated endless knowledge just within 4 years (which means it's the GSC days), you should be at least a moderate player by now... sweeping the elite 4s with pretty much any Pokemon should not be a difficult task for you

Even further assuming things, you're now an experienced player who knows Pokemon in and out. Therefore right off the bat you should know that legendary teams are not appreciated. There is a clear x5ice/dragon weakness in this team. An expert player may purposely put that in for fun, but s/he would do everything in their power to overcome their weaknesses. However I do not see any specific counters to Regice, Starmie (and most water types), other dragons or even just common strategies such as perish trap. Furthermore, there is no sign of hazing/pseudohaze, which means that you have just doomed yourself toward a Ninjask+(insert physical sweeper here). It all seems nothing more than a coincidence that there's 4 moves that can knock out Shedinja (Fly doesn't really count though...). As an experienced player, it should be as simple as breathing O2 to make sure that you don't have 2(or more) attacks of the same element unless it has a strategy behind it (return+hyper beam for Sharpedo for example, or Mana Lugia's return+quick attack Dodrio).

Rest being one of the most commonly seen moves, so common that it is ALWAYS PRESENT within EVERY team found on netbattle so far, yet it's not even on one pokemon within this team. No heal bell too, which means it's fallen prey for Umbreon and Lanturn.

The only signs of strategy is headbutt+scary face flinch combo. But this combo is so weak that a simple switch or paralyzing Salamence will destroy this combo completely. All the other moves are simply "Moves that SEEMS to be good." Moves are just drawn randomly out of a hat, and randomly put together. Not a single buff move in this whole team when there's opportunities to learn dragon dance, calm mind or bulk up. That is not a good sign.

And lastly, though we've requested you to post movesets, EV distributions, items and personality, you've just posted your movesets, leaving us guessing about the other 3 things. Are you trying to play a "joke" on us, or do you not know what's personality or EV distributions? It makes me ponder about the fact that you're an experienced Pokemon player...


At least present some support in your argument in the future. I do not mind people criticizing me at all, but let's make it a constructive criticism instead with support and evidence.

latios tamer
December 4th, 2003, 09:51 PM
oh yeah im not 9 or 10 i'm 11 and your what 2 ( you shoor act like it )




[SIZE=7][COLOR=DarkRed]l.o.l

Spike Razzor
December 4th, 2003, 09:53 PM
Hello, if anything you are 2 because you have failed to make any point. If I was 2 then you should feel ashamed that someone younger than you knows way more and then some. (learn to spell idiot!)

I swear, there should be rules keeping kids under 13 out of this forum. Too many n00bs posting spam and pointlessness all over the place.

Frostweaver
December 4th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Are you just someone who is obstinate, or are you someone who just can't enter a metacognitive moment? Or perhaps you are stuck in cognitive dissonance with all these new Pokemon vocabulary?

By the way, you have just proved your intelligence by failing to read a simple birthdate. It's year 2003 now, and I'm born in the year 1988. If this simple equations results in a "2" for you... you're not helping yourself in your argument.

As for Spike's statement, I don't think so... I've seen many "noobs" who are 13 and younger in terms of playing games, but many of them are eager to learn. They are "noobs" because there's no one to guide them. That's why we should instead reach out to them to rescue them from their lust for knowledge.

Spike Razzor
December 4th, 2003, 09:59 PM
This "Child" needs to stop skipping school and learn something, pick up a book and read it everyday. And practice grammer more often before he says someone is 2...

Frostweaver
December 4th, 2003, 10:02 PM
And now, if there aren't going to be any constructive criticism here with support, explanation and evidence, then this is simply the end of the little debate... Someone can simply close this if Latios Tamer or anyone else is/are not going to continue in this argument.

Or if you have decided to rebuild your team/post out your "best" team to show us your true identity as an experienced player, then go ahead... we will be waiting here patiently.

(Lol... if Mana Lugia is here... it will be complete catastrophe on poor Latios Tamer's part)

latios tamer
December 4th, 2003, 11:11 PM
i may not be the best arguer or even the best speller and i know when i say this you're gonna think i'm one of those crazy jews but i wan't this to end so




.................................................. ............. sorry about the acusing you of criticism and the other things like that :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Firequill
December 4th, 2003, 11:33 PM
umm... aaaaaanyways...

i have my crystal version team:

Articuno - blizzard, ice beam, sky attack, rest - mint berry

ho-oh - sacred fire, psychic, earthquake, recover - soft sand

Lugia - Aeroblast, psychic, hydro pump, recover - sharp beak

Zapdos - thunderbolt, thunder, rain dance, drill peck - magnet

Tyrannitar - crunch, rock slide, earthquake, hyper beam - (im not sure)

Mewtwo - ice beam, psychic, thunder, recover - miracle berry

They are all at level 100. I like to have accurate attacks and powerful attacks. i usually cant stand having pokemon with attacks of the same type. My Zapdos and mewtwo work together... sorta with Zapdos' rain dance and thunder and mewtwo's thunder

Then there's ruby version which i havent considered items for:

Blaziken - blaze kick, sky uppercut, Mirror move, slash

groudon - Eruption, earthquake, slash, solar beam (solar beam and drought, yea)

kyogre - water spout, ice beam, body slam, thunder (thunder and drizzle = yay)

latias - ice beam, psychic, earthquake, recover

latios - ice beam, psychic, thunder, recover

Rayquaza - thunderbolt, flamethrower, ice beam, hyper beam

weird attacks on Raquaza but they bring in a bunch of type advantages and are accurate! i havent formed a strategy for this team... once again all lv100

Frostweaver
December 4th, 2003, 11:39 PM
umm... aaaaaanyways...

i have my crystal version team:

Articuno - blizzard, ice beam, sky attack, rest - mint berry

ho-oh - sacred fire, psychic, earthquake, recover - soft sand

Lugia - Aeroblast, psychic, hydro pump, recover - sharp beak

Zapdos - thunderbolt, thunder, rain dance, drill peck - magnet

Tyrannitar - crunch, rock slide, earthquake, hyper beam - (im not sure)

Mewtwo - ice beam, psychic, thunder, recover - miracle berry

They are all at level 100. I like to have accurate attacks and powerful attacks. i usually cant stand having pokemon with attacks of the same type. My Zapdos and mewtwo work together... sorta with Zapdos' rain dance and thunder and mewtwo's thunder

Then there's ruby version which i havent considered items for:

Blaziken - blaze kick, sky uppercut, Mirror move, slash

groudon - Eruption, earthquake, slash, solar beam (solar beam and drought, yea)

kyogre - water spout, ice beam, body slam, thunder (thunder and drizzle = yay)

latias - ice beam, psychic, earthquake, recover

latios - ice beam, psychic, thunder, recover

Rayquaza - thunderbolt, flamethrower, ice beam, hyper beam

weird attacks on Raquaza but they bring in a bunch of type advantages and are accurate! i havent formed a strategy for this team... once again all lv100

and once again, the advanced trainer's guide will help you here... both versions' teams tell me that there are still plenty to be worked on... we always automatically assumed that all Pokemon are at lvl 100 anyways... but by the sound of that statement, pride comes along with it. So I suppose that you went through a lot of hard work training them by battling lots of wild Pokemon to get to such a high level? If what I guessed is true, then read the trainer's guide... as it covers on the common misconception of not using rare candies and fighting wild Pokemon for levels.

Mana Lugia
December 6th, 2003, 02:13 PM
(Lol... if Mana Lugia is here... it will be complete catastrophe on poor Latios Tamer's part)
You rang? :p Btw, if psypoke is down, use http://pokedex.kary.ca/

blaziken- double kick, sky uppercut, overheat, blaze kick
Newbie Mistake: Having a flamethrower, Fire spin, Fire blast, Fire punching Charizard is NOT invincibility. It's stupidity.
Ok, let's start with Blaziken. The dude with the big big hitting and meh meh everything else. No items? That's a bad thing. Overstocking on same type moves? That's pointless too. Let's get rid of Double kick, Blaze kick. A neutral personality won't be fun. Go with Adamant(Explain in a moment). Stick Bulk up over Double kick. What good is Kicking if you have uppercut? Make use of Bulky's def Up, and attach a salac berry, and stick Rock slide over Blaze kick. Rock would run off your attack, Salac will give you extra speed right when you finish bulking up cuz you're almost dead, and Overheat will run off your subtracted spA from adamant to still deal moderate damage, but mainly used for Skarm. Adamant would power up your attack, meaning you do more damage quicker.
Eg of EV distro: (HP, atk, def, spe, spA, spD)
16-152-0-200-142-0
305-345-176-246-261-176

latios- luster purge, dragon claw, fly, psykick
Newbie Mistake: Fly does not "rock". You fly, they switch, you hit on NVE, they pwn on switch. Worse off, they switch when you fly, they ice beam right after you come down, and you die.
Latios, unlike his just as weird looking sister, learns Dragon dance. This means that unlike Latias, it might be a physical attacker as opposed to the special sweeper on your team.
So, making use of Dragon dance...
Dragon dance, Hidden power Rock, Earthquake, Recover @ Lum berry.
The dangers of Physical, of course, is Will-o-Wisp, and for recover, Toxic. Lum will give you that one free turn, perhaps to set up to kill. HP rock will kill most things Quake won't do much to, too lazy to find exceptions right now.
Eg of EV distro:
148-236-60-64-0-0
338-302-211-272-266-256

Alternatively, make it the same set as Latias, only its special Attack would be higher, its defense lower.

latias- same as latios
Obviously, as said above, Latias can't learn purging from its older brother, and let's not even get into "what if incest occurs" scenerios.
Great, the little ugly thingy that no one likes due to Soul dew. So, as usual, ditch Soul dew to start.
Calm mind, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Recover @ lum berry/Leftovers (or shell bell).
Calm mind powers up bolt and Psychic (note spelling, unless your gameboy spelt it wrong too, in which case you can take it to the shop and ask for a refund, hrhr). Recover to get back HP, and lum will cure toxic, for one turn, hopefully it'd be enough. Leftovers/Shell bell is like recover jr.
Modest is the ability to go here for hard hits, while Timid would be of choice for speed.
eg of EV distro:
166-0-16-216-112-0
342-176-220-310-312-296

rayquaza- extreme speed, thunder, surf, dive
Newbie Mistake: Thunder has no place on something that doesn't lack SpA, and Dive has no place on anything not called Ludicolo.
Here, the massive stupid looking Digimon look-alike can shine, but not before others make fun of you to death first. of the 4 pokemon you're using, already 3 are legendary/uber borderline. Luckily for you, we're not battling you. Ray has one gigantic advantage: the "Holy crap what the **** were they thinking" sickness. In other words, its stat distribution are just sick. It can do either Special OR physical sweeping, and is one of the few pokemon who can actually do both... at the same time efficiently. Of course, being overrun by special attackers already (assuming you made Latios a special sweeper, because you have enough physical attackers to follow), make Ray your really cool Dragon dancer! (Adamant, of course)
Dragon dance, Hidden power Rock/Flying, Earthquake, Flamethrower/Rest@ Lum berry.
The dangers of Physical, of course, is Will-o-Wisp, and for recover, Toxic. Lum will give you that one free turn, perhaps to set up to kill. HP rock will kill most things Quake won't do much to, but flying gets that yummy STAB. your call here. Flamethrower, of course, is for Steel, aka Skarmory. Rest, on the other hand can cure any side effects you suffer, and let you rest up before a sweep. If resting, Chesto berry would work better.
Eg of EV distro:
148-236-60-64-0-0
388-434-231-242-302-216

flygon- sand-attack, faint attack, earthquake, crunch
Newbie MistakeFaint attack + Crunch = pointless, especially on something that doesn't even do well with either.
Ahem, this isn't a joke, right? Good, didn't think so. Flygon, unfortunately, suffers from the "OMFG I AM A LOSER ON LEGEND TEAM" syndrome. In other words, unless you can find a decent reason for it to stay, ditch it. And as of now, I see no reason for it to stay. Unless, of course, you enjoy getting swept by Ice beams.

On the other hand, your team has NO pokemon that can last. Seriously. Perhaps a skarmory? You need a reliable Pseudohazer anyways.
Spikes, Roar, Rest, Drill peck/Toxic
Of course, Spikes and roar are "duh, of course" moves on Skarm. Rest is for the stalling aspect, which is why I often use Toxic as opposed to Dpeck (more EVs for defense, no EVs needed for attack). I use a Careful nature (+SpD, -spA)
Eg of EV distro:
252-0-70-0-0-188
334-196-333-276-104-245
In other words, this is the set with toxic, not drill peck. It stalls, takes hits for you, rests, and stuff. Go nuts. With drill peck, you figure it out, I don't drill on a 196 attack. ever.

salamence- headbutt, scary face, fire blast, dragonbreath
Newbie Mistake: Scary face is NOT a strategic move. Dragon dance, on the other hand, is.
Another ice beam prone pokemon. That means, the moment Blaziken goes "cya later", Rejice comes out, fires 5 beams, and wins the game. yeah, seriously. As well, It's a nice combo, Face with Butt (ha ha, bad joke), but seriously though. "Scary face! Ice beam! You die! no butt!" Hence, we go for something a little more lasting. Since you already should have 2 physical and 2 special sweepers, make this like a potpourri thing, or just switch it for a more defensive pokemon.
Flamethrower, Earthquake/Dragon Claw, Aerial Ace, Brick Break. Sweeper style material. Of course, all the Salamences I've ever used were dragon dancers (my only, though), but give this thing a hardy perso, and a lum berry or Salac berry, and it should do some damage.
Eg ev distro:
160-118-0-156-76-0
371-335-196-275-275-196
Of course, more Speed and less SpA might be useful too, in which case get the berry that gives +Atk as opposed to salac berry, perhaps. In any case, it would be a decent all around sweeper, though not excelling at anything nor everything.

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Rating:
- First off, you used Lati@s along with Ray. that's 2 borderline and 1 uber material.
- Next, Salamence and Flygon, an extra 4x ice weakness, bringing your total to 10x.
- Starting with a sweeper, thought not a great one. (-)
- No synergy whatsoever. Your team is based on "omfg I have the stats you nub with your strategy can go shove it" which is in itself, a bad strategy, but worse when paired with...
- Movesets are questionable, and to be honest, they pretty much suck.

10x ice weakness... If was rating out of 100, that alone would make me -70.
Bad moveset... I'd take off another 70-80.
Legendary overload, especially when they're bad combination, - 30
No strat whatsoever... -10

If I was rating this team, it'd get at MOST -90/100.

Also, Frosty and Spike knows lots. Learn from them.

Lenny911
December 13th, 2003, 05:27 PM
My team is
Lv100,salamence,dragon claw,double-edge,dragonbreath,fly
Lv100,rayquaza,hyper beam,surf,outrage,fly
Lv100,groudon,fissure,solarbeam,earthquake,eruptio n
Lv100,kingdra,dragon dance,hydro pump,water gun,twister
Lv100,volbeat,tail glow,quick attack,signal beam,double-edge
and Lv100,gyarados,hyper beam,hydro pump,bite,dragon rage

E. Master
December 13th, 2003, 05:45 PM
My team kicks ***! I cheated through AR for some TMs that you can not get in the game.

lvl. 100 Espeon, Phycho Boost, Morning Sun, Psychic, Swift
lvl. 100 Umbreon, Shadow ball, Moon light, Hyper Beam, Faint Atack
lvl. 100 Shiny Blazikan, Flame thrower, Blaze kick, Sky Uper Cut, Mirror Move
lvl. 100 Rayquza, Outrage, Hyper beam, Exreem Speed, Fly
lvl. 100 Latios, Luster Purge, Psychic, Dragon Dance, Recover
lvl. 100 Jirachi, Doom's Disire, Double Edge, Psychic, Swift

My team ROCKS!

oni flygon
December 13th, 2003, 05:45 PM
I don't rate teams but as what Frostweaver said, I now know the difference between a bad move and a good move.

First of all, your Blaziken has two fighting attacks and two fire attacks. Blaziken would be very vulnerable to strong water types like Swampert since you won't have a move that covers his weakness. Try Sky Uppercutting any godd defensed water typed and your doomed.

Latios and Latias in the same team is a horrible thing to do. Both have 4x Weakness to ice making your team very vulnerable to Ice and Water types. I bet your lying since Latias can't learn Luster Purge. ;)

HM slaves are no-nos. One of the best HMs is Surf. It's the only battle-reliable HM. But still, it doesn't cover up Rayquazza's weakness to ice. This makes your team 12x weak to ice.

Sand Attack Flygon? That's more of an insult to me. Slygon has one of the best stats in the game since you can take advantage of its insane speed and attack. Plus, this makes your team 16x weak to ice.

Headbutt? On a salmenace? Now it's 20x weak to ice. Your team could get easily demolished by a Level 100 standard moveset Swampert.

Sorry, but I'm not good at movesets but I'm only good at Team-Balancing. ^^

(don't even think that I insulted you. Your flygon moreover insulted me XD)

E. Master
December 13th, 2003, 05:50 PM
If you look it says LATIOS!!

oni flygon
December 13th, 2003, 05:53 PM
It says:

Latias: Same as Latios ^^

it's very obvious that he himself rated this thread to 5 stars then along came 2 people (counting me) who gave it one star ^^

I would consider this team as a newbie team... (there are still Newbie teams???!!!!) And I thought they would all end... XD

Frostweaver
December 13th, 2003, 06:20 PM
Read the stickied Advanced Trainer's Guide in the Ruby/Sapphire section... the teams by E. Master and Lenny violated manny common mistakes (and the guide will tell you how to fix it and etc).

Also Espeon in E. Master's team has psychoboost which is impossible (even if we count tms, hms, the 4 "mystery" moves or breeding). That is unacceptable on a team.

Spike Razzor
December 15th, 2003, 09:01 PM
My team kicks ***! I cheated through AR for some TMs that you can not get in the game.

lvl. 100 Espeon, Phycho Boost, Morning Sun, Psychic, Swift
lvl. 100 Umbreon, Shadow ball, Moon light, Hyper Beam, Faint Atack
lvl. 100 Shiny Blazikan, Flame thrower, Blaze Kick, Sky Uper Cut, Mirror Move
lvl. 100 Rayquza, Outrage, Hyper beam, Exreem Speed, Fly
lvl. 100 Latios, Luster Purge, Psychic, Dragon Dance, Recover
lvl. 100 Jirachi, Doom's Disire, Double Edge, Psychic, Swift

My team ROCKS!Like I said before, just about any 2 day old n00b could beat the game. If you can beat people in an online simulator then you can say your team rocks, cause honesly this is another "In Game Team" that will get owned.


My team is
Lv100,salamence,dragon claw,double-edge,dragonbreath,fly
Lv100,rayquaza,hyper beam,surf,outrage,fly
Lv100,groudon,fissure,solarbeam,earthquake,eruptio n
Lv100,kingdra,dragon dance,hydro pump,water gun,twister
Lv100,volbeat,tail glow,quick attack,signal beam,double-edge
and Lv100,gyarados,hyper beam,hydro pump,bite,dragon rageFYI, Dragon Dance Powers up non-Sp moves (Normal, Rock, Ground, Bug, Posion, Flying, Fighting) so I don't see why Kingdra has it with with... Water Gun LMFAO!

This is a total waste of space, I hope Mana doesn't catch any of you ROTFLMAO! Cause you guys need som help XD!

Jirachi
December 17th, 2003, 06:39 AM
This thread is supposed to be closed by now, too much flaming!

Spike Razzor
December 17th, 2003, 07:38 PM
Note:Flamming is fighting, swearing ect. Noone has done any of that, so no it wont be close cause 3 people in here need serious help =). Feels good to be right doesn't it =D?

Frostweaver
December 17th, 2003, 07:43 PM
don't have to be so blunt... use rofl instead of the other abbreviation for lol, and cut out the "noob"...

instead of laughting at them, why don't you actually post out how those pokemon's moveset should be? That'll make things a bit more constructive and less on insults.

Spike Razzor
December 18th, 2003, 11:38 AM
don't have to be so blunt... use rofl instead of the other abbreviation for lol, and cut out the "noob"...

instead of laughting at them, why don't you actually post out how those pokemon's moveset should be? That'll make things a bit more constructive and less on insults."Noob" wasn't targeted to any here, I was saying any noob could beat the game and its true. All you need to know is what moves are effective against what and your all set.

I was at the library, my time was almost up so I couldn't give all there Pokemon a good moveset =\. Wanted to though, but now I don't feel like it. mainly cause there all packing legendaries which I don't use (all but Groudon and maybe Kyogre).

Arore
December 19th, 2003, 09:38 AM
Gez, you must have a lot of patience to wait for them to reach 80+ levels...unless you cheat, like moi. :D But, my team, if I could get them to level 100, would be made up of these Pokemon: Swampert, Zangoose, Seviper, Gardevoir, Mightyena, Kyougre...or perhaps Salamence instead of Mightyena/Gardevoir. I don't really care for Legendaries...to me they are just tools that you use to be tough...I just use my favorites. *huggles Daggon, her Zangoose*

Frostweaver
December 20th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Gez, you must have a lot of patience to wait for them to reach 80+ levels...unless you cheat, like moi. :D But, my team, if I could get them to level 100, would be made up of these Pokemon: Swampert, Zangoose, Seviper, Gardevoir, Mightyena, Kyougre...or perhaps Salamence instead of Mightyena/Gardevoir. I don't really care for Legendaries...to me they are just tools that you use to be tough...I just use my favorites. *huggles Daggon, her Zangoose*
no one trains to lvl 100... everyone should lvl their pokemon up with rare candies. (rare candy > training as long as you have the proper strategy) I mean if you train your way through, then I feel sorry for the EV of your Pokemon...

Mana Lugia
December 20th, 2003, 04:15 PM
yeah, usually you're better off candying to Lv 100, and then start the training via boxing so you can control the EVs.

Dragon Man
December 23rd, 2003, 01:41 PM
I know using cheats or Rare Candies are faster to level up Pokemon but I raised ten of my Pokemon to Level 100. I just kept challenging the Elite Four after I beat the game. For training your Pokemon to Level 100 you must have tons of patience. I played 175 hours before I challenged the Elite Four in Ruby/Sapphire because I wanted to get my best 6 Pokemon to Level 70 and I wanted to get all of my Pokemon over Level 30.
I'm so off topic that it's embarassing. *Hides in the CD drive*

Frostweaver
December 23rd, 2003, 06:09 PM
I know using cheats or Rare Candies are faster to level up Pokemon but I raised ten of my Pokemon to Level 100. I just kept challenging the Elite Four after I beat the game. For training your Pokemon to Level 100 you must have tons of patience. I played 175 hours before I challenged the Elite Four in Ruby/Sapphire because I wanted to get my best 6 Pokemon to Level 70 and I wanted to get all of my Pokemon over Level 30.
I'm so off topic that it's embarassing. *Hides in the CD drive*
um... this is another wrong perception to say that raising them by battling to lvl 100 is better than rare candy... check out the advanced trainer's guide to see what's wrong with that. (btw, i feel sorry for those few Pokemon whom you trained by battling from o.o; )

Dragon Man
December 23rd, 2003, 06:49 PM
Actually I totally agree with you Frosty. It is better to just give your Pokemon Rare Candies because otherwise it's a long time to raise Pokemon. So I do agree with you that using Rare Candies is better. On the feeling sorry for my Pokemon that I trained to Level 100 you are totally right again. I would hate to be one of those Pokemon and have to fight a billion or more battles.
By the way on the Rayquaza, Latios, Latias, Blaziken, Salamence and Flygon team it does have powerful moves but could be taken out by a Psychic Pokemon with Ice Beam. But I must say the moves are powerful.
By the way I know this is off topic so I'm not going to post my team here but I have a team that I would please appreciate if someone gave me some constructive criticism.

Frostweaver
December 23rd, 2003, 07:34 PM
not just on the sympathic level, but it scars your pokemon's stats not to use rare candy FIRST then TRAIN AFTER. Ev scars hurt real bad... you don't really want Blaziken getting the un-needed defense or something.

just post your team in another thread and we'll check it out for you ;p

Ice demon
January 1st, 2004, 01:27 PM
My team kicks ***! I cheated through AR for some TMs that you can not get in the game.

lvl. 100 Espeon, Phycho Boost, Morning Sun, Psychic, Swift
lvl. 100 Umbreon, Shadow ball, Moon light, Hyper Beam, Faint Atack
lvl. 100 Shiny Blazikan, Flame thrower, Blaze kick, Sky Uper Cut, Mirror Move
lvl. 100 Rayquza, Outrage, Hyper beam, Exreem Speed, Fly
lvl. 100 Latios, Luster Purge, Psychic, Dragon Dance, Recover
lvl. 100 Jirachi, Doom's Disire, Double Edge, Psychic, Swift

My team ROCKS!

I know nothing about Jirachi and Latios but i know the others....and frost weaver is correct espeon can't learn psychoboost and umbreon should not have Faint Atack or Hyper Beam in my opinion and should be used as a tank - toxic,confuse ray, moonlight,mean look