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Kaori
April 14th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Black and White introduced both triple and rotational battles, but they were never utilized throughout the games very well compared to double battles. With B2W2, do you believe they should/will bring out these two features more throughout Unova?

http://www.kimsites.net/pokemon/pokeball_gray.jpg Would you like to see more of these two features?
http://www.kimsites.net/pokemon/pokeball_gray.jpg Where throughout Unova do you think Triple/Rotational battles should be placed (i.e. - within trainers, wild grass, gym leaders, E4, etc.)?
http://www.kimsites.net/pokemon/pokeball_gray.jpg Do you want to see any improvements/changes for them? If so, what do you have in mind?

DISCUSS!

Jellicent♀
April 14th, 2012, 07:11 PM
I would love to see more of these types of battles. They were beyond stupidly fun, and plus having White I only got to experience ONE rotation battle, so if the newer games were to put an even amount of both in the games, that would be amazing.
I'd be disappointed if they changed anything about them, though. They are fun as they already are.

Clacla
April 14th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Would you like to see more of these two features?
Of course, especially Triple Battles. They were a great addition, and it'd be cool to have a gym battle using them.
Where throughout Unova do you think Triple/Rotational battles should be placed (i.e. - within trainers, wild grass, gym leaders, E4, etc.)?
Like I said, maybe a gym battle that is Triple/Rotation.
Do you want to see any improvements/changes for them? If so, what do you have in mind?
No, I am content with how they are.

bobandbill
April 14th, 2012, 07:17 PM
I wouldn't be too keen on battling a gym leader triple-battle style but I wouldn't mind some more of these with regular trainers or the odd gang-up battle from multiple Team ___ grunts. On that note more double battles too please - there were many instances in BW which it felt odd that they avoided them.

I don't think they need any real changes.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
April 14th, 2012, 07:17 PM
I would love to see more of these battles, BW had very few...Hopefully they will at the very least add more triple/Rotational battles in Opelucid city.

Mew~
April 15th, 2012, 09:15 AM
I'm not much of a fan of rotational battles to be honest, but I did quite enjoy Triple Battles.

Hopefully this time if we have Cilan, Chili and Cress as gym leaders it'll be a triple battle. :D

I wouldn't mind more - just not too many, as a lot of the time rotational battles start to get annoying and triple battles turn tedious.

Cello
April 15th, 2012, 09:17 AM
I actually would love to see more rotational battles. I never liked the thought of them until I played one of the fan hacks where a gym battle involved doing a triple battle and saw how strategic it could be.
Granted that the Gym leader has about 6 Pokemon, I think a rotational battle against a Gym leader would be crazy cool. Perhaps it could be at the Cilan and gang part, as mentioned above? :>

On the other hand, I can't say I particularly enjoyed triple battles, so boo.

Kaori
April 15th, 2012, 09:34 AM
I'm not much of a fan of rotational battles to be honest, but I did quite enjoy Triple Battles.

Hopefully this time if we have Cilan, Chili and Cress as gym leaders it'll be a triple battle. :D

I wouldn't mind more - just not too many, as a lot of the time rotational battles start to get annoying and triple battles turn tedious.
It got annoying? :[ It was barely in the games!

http://www.kimsites.net/pokemon/pokeball_gray.jpg Would you like to see more of these two features?
Yes, definitely. I thought it was a fun experience and I had expected GameFreak to show off these two battle features, especially since they were new. Sadly they didn't, but they should for Black 2 and White 2.

http://www.kimsites.net/pokemon/pokeball_gray.jpg Where throughout Unova do you think Triple/Rotational battles should be placed (i.e. - within trainers, wild grass, gym leaders, E4, etc.)?
Like Mew~, If Cilan/Cress/Chili are still Gym Leaders in the game, I'd like for us to be able to have a full on triple battle with them (especially since they won't be the first gym we get to like in B/W). Trainers within Unova should also have both rotational and triple battles. & Along with wild double battles, there should be wild triple battles. Why not? :<

http://www.kimsites.net/pokemon/pokeball_gray.jpg Do you want to see any improvements/changes for them? If so, what do you have in mind?
Nope, especially since these two weren't featured very well.

Mew~
April 15th, 2012, 09:36 AM
It got annoying? :[ It was barely in the games!

Annoying as in - about to attack a water type with thunder and SWITCH (to a resistant Pokémon).

Magic
April 15th, 2012, 09:47 AM
Would you like to see more of these two features?
I would rather just have double battles, but the rotational battles are interesting at least.

Where throughout Unova do you think Triple/Rotational battles should be placed (i.e. - within trainers, wild grass, gym leaders, E4, etc.)?
If they are in the game they should be more frequent, with normal trainers using them as well as perhaps one gym leader. I would not like triple/rotation wild pokémon as that would just be a pain.

Do you want to see any improvements/changes for them? If so, what do you have in mind?

I think if they insist on using triple battles they should add to the list of combination moves (like the oaths things, but with a more common varieties). This would mean there was some strategy rather than just ALL ATTACK ONE (repeat), it would make it much more interesting and make it really different to single battles.

SnowpointQuincy
April 15th, 2012, 09:52 AM
Annoying as in - about to attack a water type with thunder and SWITCH (to a resistant Pokémon).[/SIZE][/FONT]

That's the whole point of rotation battles. Normal battles are numbers games where you know the outcome just by looking at the mon. But Rotation battles offer a layer of strategy, a way to defend weaker mon, and -most importantly- a way to make mistakes!

There are so many choices to make, game theory flies out the window. You are going to make mistakes in rotation battles, but that's what makes them so interesting.

I want a Rotation Battle with the Shadow Triad. They have the 3 Sinnoh dragons. Enjoy.

A rotation Gym would be fun, but probably better suited for post-game.

Zephele
April 15th, 2012, 09:59 AM
I thought they were underutilized in B/W, so more of them would be great. Rotation battles in particular, since I find them more interesting, though triple battles also have their merits.

Seeing them with normal trainers as before would be fine. Seeing one or two Gyms use either battle format would be nice, as well. If not the battle for the badge, maybe if a rematch system is implemented, they could do something similar to the Clair/Lance double battle in HG/SS, but with triple/rotation battles.

Mew~
April 15th, 2012, 10:06 AM
That's the whole point of rotation battles. Normal battles are numbers games where you know the outcome just by looking at the mon. But Rotation battles offer a layer of strategy, a way to defend weaker mon, and -most importantly- a way to make mistakes!

I understood that - but added to my point - it would be too annoying for me to see too much of it. Personal preferences

I like the idea of the Shadow Triad, with the creation trio doesn't seem as far fetched at second thought. But obviously very late in the game and after main story.

Daydream
April 15th, 2012, 10:07 AM
Definitely more implemented through the game, have the occasional trainer who challenges you to one. And I think it should be either through single trainers, who challenge you to that type of battle or maybe you get a group of three trainers (because I can't imagine it would be uncommon for trainers to travel together) to battle against. I'd also like to see some team up triple battles (which I was convinced was going to happen with Bianca and Cheren), perhaps against the evil team. Oh and against the Shadow Triad and triplets would be cool.

chaos11011
April 15th, 2012, 01:35 PM
I think a Triple Battle with the Shadow Triad would be nice, going on the theory that the Shadow Triad is the Stration Leaders, they could use their 3 Simimonkeys and the F/W/G Eeveelutions.

pokemonpokemonpokemon59
April 15th, 2012, 02:02 PM
Maybe a Cilan/Cress/Chili battle with Rotational battle for one version and triple for the other?

Hoenn
April 15th, 2012, 02:15 PM
Would you like to see more of these two features?

Yeah, well they we're introduced in BW so I can't understand why they didn't add more of them, I enjoyed the triples, not so much the rotations.


Where throughout Unova do you think Triple/Rotational battles should be placed (i.e. - within trainers, wild grass, gym leaders, E4, etc.)?

The first gym would have suited it greatly, they all had 2 Pokémon each and for 3 of them to be in a triple battle would be a perfect team of 6 offering a variety of types.

Do you want to see any improvements/changes for them? If so, what do you have in mind?

I'd like to see more triple battles and a couple rotations scattered here and there yeah.

Forever
April 15th, 2012, 03:43 PM
For those who said the shadow triad @ triples, I'd love that. Thing is, they'd need to have a purpose to do that. :( Rotationals I really want to see gone, so in the 2 years hopefully they got phased out of the region due to being terrible. :3;

Hoenn
April 15th, 2012, 03:47 PM
For those who said the shadow triad @ triples, I'd love that. Thing is, they'd need to have a purpose to do that. :( Rotationals I really want to see gone, so in the 2 years hopefully they got phased out of the region due to being terrible. :3;

True, the fact that they appeared several times and had links with N during Black & White must mean they have something behind them, these games are perfect to find out about them considering they are direct sequels.

Khrysta
April 15th, 2012, 03:56 PM
I'm hopin one Gym does Triple or Rotation battles. I love both of those and don't get to battle online as often as I'd like to use the functions.

Kaori
April 15th, 2012, 03:58 PM
For those who said the shadow triad @ triples, I'd love that. Thing is, they'd need to have a purpose to do that. :( Rotationals I really want to see gone, so in the 2 years hopefully they got phased out of the region due to being terrible. :3;
If GameFreak completely removed Rotational battles out of the blue, I'd be upset. u_u It can be really fun since you have to think strategically, and you never know what Pokémon your opponent is going to switch to during the battle. I'm always looking for challenges in Pokémon battles, and I don't think there was enough in BW. More Rotational battles could get annoying, but at the same time it's also challenging. That's why having more within B2W2 would be fine with me, haha.

Asuf
April 17th, 2012, 02:58 PM
I loved these battle styles as soon as I was thrown in one, I hope they are used throughout the game more often, especially with gym leaders, evil teams and the rival.

chaos11011
April 17th, 2012, 04:03 PM
I think it would be really cool if we had a Rotational and Triples Subway, as I think we didn't have one in BW ;w;

Livewire_
April 17th, 2012, 08:41 PM
I wouldn't mind if they just got rid of them entirely. I thought they were an annoying gimmick, to be honest.

Turn-it
April 17th, 2012, 09:11 PM
I was in one rotational battle and I think 2 or 3 triple battles. So I would love to see more just to determine if I like them or not. I felt like I've been teased a little bit. I was only given a brief taste of something that could be in fact good!

Hikamaru
April 17th, 2012, 09:45 PM
I think Triple/Rotation Battles should get more appearances in B2/W2. I enjoyed them and I like the strategy that comes with it.

BryGuy Shinigami
April 17th, 2012, 10:04 PM
I will like to see more of the two in B2/W2. Most likely they will put more Rotation Battles in one and more Triple Battles in the other. I also hope if you get to battle the Shadow Triad it's a Rotation Battle (in one game) or a Triple Battle (in the other). Even better if you get to battle the 6 Sages (like if they escape jail or they just get a 2 year sentence and their time expired) and you battle 3 in a Rotation Battle and the other 3 in a Triple Battle. As well as one of the latter gyms have 3 gym leaders that you tri/rot battle with.

Forever
April 17th, 2012, 10:48 PM
If GameFreak completely removed Rotational battles out of the blue, I'd be upset. u_u It can be really fun since you have to think strategically, and you never know what Pokémon your opponent is going to switch to during the battle. I'm always looking for challenges in Pokémon battles, and I don't think there was enough in BW. More Rotational battles could get annoying, but at the same time it's also challenging. That's why having more within B2W2 would be fine with me, haha.

Well, they can keep them in but not too many---

I think it would be really cool if we had a Rotational and Triples Subway, as I think we didn't have one in BW ;w;

YES, that is what I think would be better. :3 Isolate those battles to the subway plz. lool.

SnowpointQuincy
April 18th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Battle Subway should have Rotation Battles. That would be perfect.

There should also be a special color of grass, burgundy grass, that causes wild triple battle encounters. Or, maybe that is a bit too much :15:

Forever
April 18th, 2012, 01:02 AM
Ooh triple battle grass! Black and White = about a few years after DPPt, so that could actually be kinda developed in the sense that it happened with B/W. As long as there's no rotational battle grass >__> But possibly they might want to wait until the next generation to add in that. ;__;

Kaori
April 18th, 2012, 02:11 AM
I mentioned triple battle wild grass, and yes I would love this. I mean if they can include wild double battles, why not promote triple battles more with it? I see trainers using more of rotational battles, doesn't look like a technique that you should find within wild Pokémon.

Frozen
April 18th, 2012, 02:18 AM
Yes, I'd really love to see them utilized more. I loved the Triple Battles (Never got to experience the rotation battles), It seemed like a waste to only have a few battles with it. Oh and the first GYM needs a triple battle.

Forever
April 18th, 2012, 03:36 AM
Maybe rotationals would be suited to a structured environment, perhaps like in a place where Pokemon are at home/at nature sorta? Don't really know where, maybe in the earlier areas, where Pokemon are younger and work as a "team" to defeat the opponent (although mega unlikely lool) and have triples all over in the grass? IF NOT SUBWAY PLZ GF.

Oryx
April 18th, 2012, 03:46 AM
I have a feeling they'll expand the Subway and put a battling spot for triples there, similar to the Frontier.

Jellicent♀
April 18th, 2012, 05:42 AM
^ I wonder why they didn't put them into the Subway in the first place. Of course at the time they were trying to make each one unique to a different region.
But to see them in the Subway would be really cool. That would certainly make it a bit more difficult imo.

PokeFreak201306
April 18th, 2012, 07:11 AM
These feature were okay, but when they released double battles in R/S they werent huge until the emerald remake, I think there should be more of both and definetly incorporate them in to the enemy team, but definetly not the E4 or Champion, that would be absurd lol

Hoenn
April 18th, 2012, 07:29 AM
It was kind of pointless for them to include very few Trip/Rotations especially due to the fact that it's the games they were introduced in.

PokeFreak201306
April 18th, 2012, 07:33 AM
It was kind of pointless for them to include very few Trip/Rotations especially due to the fact that it's the games they were introduced in.

Ruby and Sapphire also introduced double battles, but had far fewer than important, they werent correctly incorporated until Emerald which was remake of Ruby and Sapphire, They might have done that just to see if they would get good feedback and then add more or take them out depending on such feedback

LightOfTruth
April 18th, 2012, 07:35 AM
Didn't get to this type of battle yet in Black but I can see a patten here with Emerald and Black and White 2, Emerald included more double battles and Black and White 2 included more triple battles :D

Hoenn
April 18th, 2012, 07:36 AM
True^ I can see them utilizing these into B2W2 in more areas, it would make sence really. Hoping for more Triples than Rotationals however.

Kaori
April 18th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Ruby and Sapphire also introduced double battles, but had far fewer than important, they werent correctly incorporated until Emerald which was remake of Ruby and Sapphire, They might have done that just to see if they would get good feedback and then add more or take them out depending on such feedback
Oh you're right, Emerald did put more emphasis on the double battles. Trainers previously in RS that were only single battles, became double battles. B2W2 should definitely follow up with this.

Oryx
April 18th, 2012, 12:47 PM
^ I wonder why they didn't put them into the Subway in the first place. Of course at the time they were trying to make each one unique to a different region.
But to see them in the Subway would be really cool. That would certainly make it a bit more difficult imo.

If they're trying to make it specific they can have in White: "This train is the cutting edge train of the future, we're sure these battles will catch on!" and in Black: "This train imitates battles that were very popular in the past!"

Jellicent♀
April 18th, 2012, 12:53 PM
If they're trying to make it specific they can have in White: "This train is the cutting edge train of the future, we're sure these battles will catch on!" and in Black: "This train imitates battles that were very popular in the past!"

Perfect. B]

And PokeLegend and Kaori make a good point. So maybe they WILL put more emphasis on the triple/rotation abttle themes. Where you come into a crossing and three people see you at once, and then the battle will begin, or maybe they'll have groups much like the couples that challenge you.

chaos11011
April 18th, 2012, 01:05 PM
They don't have to be three people, imagine the Emerald way of doing it. There's a path and two people spot you at once.

Trainer 1: Oh, hey, I challenge you to a Double Battle!

Trainer 2: Hey, I saw you!

Trainer 1 and 2: Triple Battle commence!

SnowpointQuincy
April 18th, 2012, 02:26 PM
Smogon has a funny picture of what Rotation Battles actually look like. The battle are literaly faught on a giant gear suspended by Claydol. I would love to see a special arena in the game were such a thing is animated.

http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue17/rotation

http://www.smogon.com/media/smog/17/intro_rotationbattles_sand.png

http://www.smogon.com/media/smog/17/intro_rotationbattles_smeargle.png

Put this in the game!! Or, the anime...
http://http://www.smogon.com/media/smog/17/intro_rotationbattles_smeargle.png

BryGuy Shinigami
April 19th, 2012, 12:37 AM
They don't have to be three people, imagine the Emerald way of doing it. There's a path and two people spot you at once.

Trainer 1: Oh, hey, I challenge you to a Double Battle!

Trainer 2: Hey, I saw you!

Trainer 1 and 2: Triple Battle commence!

I can see that, but I mostly see one Trainer giving you a heads up that you are about to enter a triple/rotation battle and then the battle begins with his 3 Pokemon and your first 3. Plus it would be cool if Heartbreaker Charles had some family and friends that will also challenge you to a tri/rot battle.

Forever
April 20th, 2012, 11:16 PM
I can see that, but I mostly see one Trainer giving you a heads up that you are about to enter a triple/rotation battle and then the battle begins with his 3 Pokemon and your first 3. Plus it would be cool if Heartbreaker Charles had some family and friends that will also challenge you to a tri/rot battle.

Family, well, considering he's a Heartbreaker, he probably has a few wives. Wouldn't it be interesting if he had four wives you meet and two specialise in triple battles and the other in rotationals? XD; I'd find that hilarious, or at least more than anyone else he is related to.

Kaori
April 21st, 2012, 07:24 AM
Family, well, considering he's a Heartbreaker, he probably has a few wives. Wouldn't it be interesting if he had four wives you meet and two specialise in triple battles and the other in rotationals? XD; I'd find that hilarious, or at least more than anyone else he is related to.
Or had since he is a heartbreaker and not necessarily a cheater? Hmm. But yeah it would be cool if like, ladies he used to be with specialized in triple battles within one game (Black 2 or White 2) and then ladies in the other game specialized in Rotationals.

Forever
April 21st, 2012, 07:37 AM
Maybe it could just be the same two ladies, or the same one lady (that he'd "settle down" by then) and that she just changes hair colour and does the triple/rotational battles in the version and he does the opposite to them in your version :3

giradialkia
April 21st, 2012, 07:38 AM
I'm not really sure how they could utilise Triple/Rotational battles any more than they did in BW. Well, I might be saying that because I wasn't crazy about them- I guess with Triple battles it was a matter of simply knocking the opponent out, but Rotation... Yeesh, I still don't think I fully understand it, lol. I wouldn't mind if there were just as few Triple/Rotation battles as in BW.