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Lion Heart
January 16th, 2005, 03:42 AM
This is my mono dragon/look like dragon team.
Please, fix/rate, but no stupid comments.
Charizard (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
Not any good, and needs new moveset, will replace!
Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 46 Def / 212 Spd / 252 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt
Just your normal Tauntridos..
Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump
People don't expect him to be a Sp.Sweeper, so he kinda works with this set
Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
Subpunchboltbeam Draggy, he can work at times, and at times just gets hammered
Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf
I have a Subflail Kingdra aswell, but people bag him out so I came up with this set, it works, and can VERY safely be swapped in against Swampy, people just don't see HP Grass coming at him..
Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Army Tank
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 42 HP / 64 Atk / 144 Def / 8 Spd / 252 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Milk Drink
- Return
- Shadow Ball
Not a dragon, but man, this thing wipes ENTIRE teams when it is the last pokemon, and can't be roared, a hazer can wreck him, but meh.. AND I'll ONLY replace him if someone can suggest a suitable DRAGON replacement with similar stats and moveset.
Mullet
January 16th, 2005, 04:45 AM
Charizard:The 6 Sp. attack EVs are useless because you don't have any special attacks on him, and the nature lowers it anyway so got with this.
Charizard@Liechi Berry
Nature:Lonely/Naughty
EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. attack
Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
Rock Slide/Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Overheat
Salamence@Liechi Berry/Leftovers
Nature:Lonely
EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. attack/6 HP
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide/Aerial Ace (I use AA but either one is fine)
Fire Blast/Hydro Pump (I perfer FB but again it depends on what you like better)
Gyarados:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP/252 Attack, 129 Speed, 129 Sp. def/def.
Dragonite:252 Attack, 252 Sp. attack, 6 Speed.
Hope this helps.[/font]
Kholdstaire
January 17th, 2005, 08:00 AM
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Toothache
January 17th, 2005, 11:00 AM
Shove the spam before I shove you out of PC.
Lion Heart
January 17th, 2005, 12:15 PM
Yeah tell him man.
Anyway, I done those changes to my team, and everything's working out fine.
klducks
January 17th, 2005, 04:56 PM
This is my mono dragon/look like dragon team.
Please, fix/rate, but no stupid comments.
Charizard (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
Not any good, and needs new moveset, will replace!
overheat/heatwave/ft/b > rock slide... hp flying > aerial ace... if youre going w/ the d dance set, have lum berry... if you stick w/ s dance, then have salac and sub somewhere...
have 31/31/31/30/30/30 ivs and have 116 speed evs, 252 attack, rest in HP if its the d dance set
Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 46 Def / 212 Spd / 252 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt
Just your normal Tauntridos..
meh... 2 dancers?.... and y do you have so many sp def evs? >.>
Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump
People don't expect him to be a Sp.Sweeper, so he kinda works with this set
meh...
Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
Subpunchboltbeam Draggy, he can work at times, and at times just gets hammered
it needs some attack... and go w/ lonely or mild nature
Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf
I have a Subflail Kingdra aswell, but people bag him out so I came up with this set, it works, and can VERY safely be swapped in against Swampy, people just don't see HP Grass coming at him..
OVERRATED
Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Army Tank
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 42 HP / 64 Atk / 144 Def / 8 Spd / 252 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Milk Drink
- Return
- Shadow Ball
Not a dragon, but man, this thing wipes ENTIRE teams when it is the last pokemon, and can't be roared, a hazer can wreck him, but meh.. AND I'll ONLY replace him if someone can suggest a suitable DRAGON replacement with similar stats and moveset.
i see where youre going w/ this... but y do you have 8 speed evs and curse? have max hp and take some sp def evs and def evs and put them in attack
cow =/= dragon
Kholdstaire
January 17th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Make Char a special user. Heat Wave, Dragon Claw, HP:Grass, and Sub with Petaya.
If you want Kingdra to be faster than stuff, put EVs in Speed so it is 200 Speed total.
Miltank should have Body Slam for Par haxage
kirby00
January 17th, 2005, 10:01 PM
return and frusteration dont have a difference right? is there anyway to make them like u more/less? *maybe the item that makes ur pokemon more friendlier* anyways, why use return when frusteration is first in abc order? anyways i think for dragonite: dragon claw, dragon dance, hp flying, eq
Aarikku
January 22nd, 2005, 07:42 PM
Hey. That's my team! ...except Gyarados is gone for Aerodactl and Miltank is gone for Flygon...
Anydangway, nice work on a non-legendary Dragon team! It looks like it could kick major butt. My reccomendation for Charizard is to give him Flamethrower, for the STAB boost... then again, your Charizard has a very physical moveset and stats... maybe Hyper Beam for tight spots.
Dragonite would be doomed at the hands of Swinub/Piloswine. Ice/Ground. Very evil.
Finally, Miltank??? EH???
I'd replace Miltank with anything vaguely dragonly just for your team's theme. Maybe, as I did, Aerodactl... or Altaria, perhaps. You could even use another Salamance, but this one could be a Physical Salamance. That would be an interesting 2-2 battle.
Nice work. I'm jealous.
-Aarikku
Toothache
January 22nd, 2005, 11:56 PM
I can see you're new, so I'll be nice:
Charizard - putting Flamethrower wouldn't hurt enough, even with STAB, since he's had to divert his EVs into Attack. Overheat would be nice though as an alternative choice, I'd rather use that over Aerial Ace. Hyper Beam is just asking to give your opponent a free turn to attack with and take out Charizard, so it's a horrible move and should only be relegated to Slaking (and it isn't that great for Slaking either).
Dragonite won't lose to Piloswine since it's a) faster, b) Piloswine has low Sp Def and even a neutral Ice Beam will hurt it significantly.
Miltank is nice though, but I'm surprised at your lack of Flygon for a dragon team:
Flygon@Leftovers/Liechi Berry
Earthquake
Rock Slide/HP Grass/Dragon Claw
Quick Attack
Fire Blast
I love HP Grass for those non-Ice Beaming Swampert. EV and Nature depends on moves, obviously more Attack if you go with EQ/Rock Slide, and more Sp Att for Fire Blast/Dragon Claw varieties. Use the rest how you like, but I like some Speed in there combined with Defence and a - Sp Def nature/+ Att/Sp Att depending on moves.
Aarikku, last word, is go to www.tvsian.com/netbattle and learn to overcome your ignorance.