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Mew~
June 21st, 2012, 07:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-aQn-tmnQg
What are your thoughts? I'm glad they got rid of that terrible GCI opening. :P Looks like Krokorok will evolve too. :3

Perrie ✿
June 21st, 2012, 10:23 AM
I was going to post this earlier BUT I COULDN'T FIND THE VIDEO /sob

Idk I'm not all that huge on the openings, but I was happy to see a new evolution. Not too thrilled on who was evolving. WHEN WILL SNIVY?

JadeSkittles
June 21st, 2012, 10:53 AM
Dawn has me confused. First of all had ni clue she is back Second I'm not sure if its the regular cameo or something more. The thing is why have her only and no Brock if its just the regular cameo. The fact she is with other recurring people is making me think she could stay for a good chunk of time but leave after the world arc. So we finish Unova with the league and the original trio. Just seems weird if it was a 3 ep cameo that they would put her in it the way they did.

Sheep
June 21st, 2012, 11:24 AM
Very glad that we finally got a new opening; I was very tired of the old one and couldn't even watch a second without wanting to go crazy. XD; This one's amazing, though everyone flying at the end was a little silly to me lmao. But Rica Matsumoto singing another opening makes me happy!

Guy
June 21st, 2012, 11:42 AM
Very glad that we finally got a new opening; I was very tired of the old one and couldn't even watch a second without wanting to go crazy. XD; This one's amazing, though everyone flying at the end was a little silly to me lmao. But Rica Matsumoto singing another opening makes me happy!
I know right!? Everyone flying at the end seemed a little bit too cheesy to me.

However, this has been one of the best openings in a long while in my opinion! I'm definitely glad it's no longer in CGI either. I remember saying I had thought that was pretty cool and different the first time around, but after awhile it just got tired and annoying to watch every time. I really like the song too.

Also, spoilers! You should warn people about the spoilers first. AAAH!

TheFuturePokemon
June 21st, 2012, 01:17 PM
Anybody else noticed the Krookodile at the end.

Looks like Krokorok is gonna evolve.

Akio123
June 21st, 2012, 01:23 PM
^ *claps* Hey, someone proved to us today that they can see!

Yeah, that means Krokorok is evolving soon. (I mean he needs it...he's not exactly as strong as we hyped him up to be)

Here is the thing. Every gen, Ash get's a Bi-pedal lizard (Charizard, Totodile, Sceptile, Gible, Krokorok/Krookodile in that order). So far half the time it has evolved; I mean we have showcased Ash's Krokorok at ever stage, when you think about it...it makes sense for it to evolve. Why would it evolve just once and not again?

Boomburst
June 21st, 2012, 01:24 PM
...why is everybody flying in the end? IIRC, humans can't fly.

Honestly, who cares, it's pokemon. Pretty much the most unrealistic franchise too exist.

I do think this intro is leaps and bounds over the horrible CGI intro that went before it.

JadeSkittles
June 21st, 2012, 01:39 PM
...why is everybody flying in the end? IIRC, humans can't fly.

Honestly, who cares, it's pokemon. Pretty much the most unrealistic franchise too exist.

I do think this intro is leaps and bounds over the horrible CGI intro that went before it.

Krillin can XD.

I don't think they are flying as much as the arrows of light are launching them to there goals.

precita
June 21st, 2012, 05:22 PM
I am actually surprised by no Misty and Brock. I guess we can safely say they're probably not going to appear again anytime soon. Then again Misty was in the second DP opening yet she didn't appear in any DP episodes so I guess that doesn't mean much.

I am starting to wonder if the writers themselves don't like Misty at all anymore. Its like they purposely ignore her now.

Kenshin5
June 21st, 2012, 06:33 PM
The opening was "alright" but anything is better than the first one that had. I got sick of it by the team we made it to Nimbasa. Excited to see Krookodile. Was hoping they would show more evos though.

Kirbychu
June 22nd, 2012, 12:36 AM
I am actually surprised by no Misty and Brock. I guess we can safely say they're probably not going to appear again anytime soon. Then again Misty was in the second DP opening yet she didn't appear in any DP episodes so I guess that doesn't mean much.

I am starting to wonder if the writers themselves don't like Misty at all anymore. Its like they purposely ignore her now.
They're focused on advertising the "new" to children. From that standpoint there's not really any reason to include her, unless you look at her appearance in the World Tournament. Looking at the current pattern, each girl gets to appear in the series after they depart which explains why Dawn's there.

I have a feeling they're saving Brock for later. I mean, he was a main character for over a decade. You can't just send him off with a boring episode about his little brother and then proceed to ignore him forever. He's been around way longer than Dawn, yet she appears. It'd be strange not to do something with him. Maybe he'll show up at the league?

Anyways, I definitely prefer this opening to the last. I appreciate the originality of the previous one, but it's nice to have a proper opening again. But that part with Ash and the pillars... And that flying scene... Ugh...

Luckily those can be forgiven thanks to cool scenes like the Kyurems and Ash's Pokemon hanging out at the lab. PRIMEAPE.

DBZ fan
June 22nd, 2012, 03:51 AM
Here are my thoughts about new opening being mixture of pleasure, excitement but in small doze disappointment too.

I like animation and lyrics are pretty good having kinda catchy song and certain charge around them. Since basically whole opening is focused around World tournament implies how good chunk of BW2 will play around it, making me wander eve more how will BW2 play out and if there are other unexpected surprises down the road which opening didn't revealed.

-Dawn appearing in BW2 petty much confirms my initial prediction that she will have some sort of recurring role, just like Bianca, Stephan or Georgia does.

-quick insight in Oaks lab showing prof., Dehlia and Tracey was welcoming and nice reference to past days and all Ash pokemon gathered at one place was treat in itself. I liked Charizard pose, Muk behind tree and Kingler hanging around(nice that writers remember them) and Primeape appearance suggests how after all this years pokemon Ash left at training long ago, might finally return to its original owner.

-everyone flying around was not something i would expect from pokemon show, but either way i liked it adding for nice, interesting touch.

p.s. However its disappointing that we didn't get to see any other older companions in opening. Some would think how at least Misty or Brock would have appeared there because of their role in BW2 games and involvement with world tournament, but i guess even quick showcasing was too much to expect from writers. Sad really, because ex companions were important part of pokemon deserving some recognition having much more to offer.


They're focused on advertising the "new" to children. From that standpoint there's not really any reason to include her, unless you look at her appearance in the World Tournament. Looking at the current pattern, each girl gets to appear in the series after they depart which explains why Dawn's there.



We saw writers not having problems in bringing back decade old character like Gary or Jessibelle who are not in any way relevant to new games, including 15 years old pokemon like Primeap, Kingler or Charizard which today kids never saw ,Dawn coming back for extra long visit despite there not being contests etc.so in reality there isn't any excuse for writers ignoring Misty like garbage for last 6 years, especially when she was important part of series being massively popular.

My thoughts:
Since she appears in BW 2 games, Misty could have shot coming back and play important role as well since she is currently gym leader and is popular and iconic enough to warrant writers including her in anime again to bring boost to ratings and help advertize BW2. Not to mention writers left unfinished job about character and story, and update and more development wold be surely welcomed to get. In reality now is perfect opportunity to bring Misty and make her important again, because world tournament would not only b helpful to her story helping her to advance goal of water master, but it would also give writers on disposal all time favorite and iconic girl which could have been used to help promote new games.

Does writers have any plans with her in future? Only time will tell.

Kirbychu
June 22nd, 2012, 10:59 AM
We saw writers not having problems in bringing back decade old character like Gary or Jessibelle who are not in any way relevant to new games, including 15 years old pokemon like Primeap, Kingler or Charizard which today kids never saw ,Dawn coming back for extra long visit despite there not being contests etc.so in reality there isn't any excuse for writers ignoring Misty like garbage for last 6 years, especially when she was important part of series being massively popular.
But Dawn just left. She just getting her necessary reappearence in the nexxt saga just like Misty in May. Misty actually has gotten quite a few reappearances and references since she left. Max fans are the ones who should be angry, but luckily, there are no Max fans.

You're right, from that standpoint there really wasn't any reason to bring back Gary and Jessibelle. Just some random fanservice. Still, they've also used Misty many times in the past after her depature, so it's nice to see some other older characters get some screentime. I think Ash's Pokemon are a different case, as they actually belong to the main character and represent how far he's come (Despite how little he's actually progressed). However, it's more than likely that Primeape's return is just fanservice, unless they plan to use him in some sort of plot (Which I doubt).

I agree that now is probably her best shot in a long time, but it doesn't look like it'll happen. Maybe because having Misty and Dawn at the same time would be overkill.

DBZ fan
June 22nd, 2012, 11:42 AM
But Dawn just left. She just getting her necessary reappearence in the nexxt saga just like Misty in May. Misty actually has gotten quite a few reappearances and references since she left. Max fans are the ones who should be angry, but luckily, there are no Max fans.

If that was only necessary appearance Dawn would only appear for 2 to 4 episodes though, but its obvious writers decided to break tradition changing approach with past characters giving them better follow up after they leave, making sure to be kept relevant in some way even after departure. She might stay from 10 to 20 episodes judging by all that promotion and appearance in opening, and if coordinator which isn't in new games can return with planned out story, anyone can with world tournament idea providing lot of flexible and more logical opportunities for Misty and Brock(than its case with Dawn currently). Perhaps they are testing ground with her return to see if combination of older and new could function, and depending on how well it gets received it might pan out way for future return of other older friends.

About Max almost noone cares sadly(Tracey syndrome), but Misty is another story and she should get some chance to shine and recognition as first female companion with further flesh out bringing only benefit. 6 years of absence is very long time, and no one deserves to end up erased .
When will someone return shouldn't be based on in how many episodes he was in, but if current story and character itself would benefit from return being always refreshing and interesting to see older favorites updated and took to new directions.


I agree that now is probably her best shot in a long time, but it doesn't look like it'll happen. Maybe because having Misty and Dawn at the same time would be overkill.

My guess is that since Junior tournament as far as we know is going to happen before Unova league, could likely be only prequel to more advanced and complex tournaments in BW2 arc. Some sort of introduction with presence of E4 members and champion being special privilege for trainers to have chance to try themselves out in battle against some of best.

By time Ash finish up BW league there will be 2 years waiting to be filled up before 6th generation starts. Which leads me to believe how concept of world tournament being divided in several small tournaments might become reality and transferred to filler arc in which older friends could return later on. There simply doesn't exist enough material to support filler arc right now, so its not so incredible to expect other older friends coming back after Dawn as well.

In Misty case coming back to advance her water master dream and develop more character through tournaments host by Cynthia, to get update on her and what has changed after so much time, for continuity purposes and to advertize BW2 games are all valid reasons.

Only open question is, are writers having any plans with character to capitalize on popularity and iconic status. Personally since i liked character being highly entertaining and full of potential during majority of run(counting AG as well)i would welcome return

Ducklighter
June 22nd, 2012, 12:14 PM
I agree with everyone that this is probably long awaited change in openings since that disastrous CGI opening they had for the BW. I'm sorry for those who enjoyed it but I honestly disliked it. I couldn't give you a good reason without it sounding childish but the new opening seems pretty great. The inclusion of all of Ash's Pokemon at Prof. Oak's was a nice addition because I sometimes think they ignore them and it's nice to see that we're not the only ones thinking about them. ^^

I was thrown off by Dawn's appearance in the opening (I literally gasped when I saw her because I've always loved her character and Piplup. Glad to see that little guy back.). I really hope she becomes a regular again in the anime but that might just be wishful thinking, looking at Pokemon's track record. But all in all, no complaints. I thoroughly enjoyed the opening but I hope the English theme song isn't terrible again. I miss the music from the earlier days. Johto was probably had the best theme song.

Kirbychu
June 22nd, 2012, 02:58 PM
If that was only necessary appearance Dawn would only appear for 2 to 4 episodes though, but its obvious writers decided to break tradition changing approach with past characters giving them better follow up after they leave, making sure to be kept relevant in some way even after departure. She might stay from 10 to 20 episodes judging by all that promotion and appearance in opening, and if coordinator which isn't in new games can return with planned out story, anyone can with world tournament idea providing lot of flexible and more logical opportunities for Misty and Brock(than its case with Dawn currently). Perhaps they are testing ground with her return to see if combination of older and new could function, and depending on how well it gets received it might pan out way for future return of other older friends.
With Dawn I really think it's just a matter of keeping with the pattern, and I'm not quite sure if they're getting better with follow-ups, because Misty got way better treatment than May and especially Max. We also still haven't seen Brock again, but to be fair, he did appear in a spin-off episode. You know, that "precita" guy might be on to something. It really does feel that the writers absolutely adore Dawn sometimes. I would have to say that she was the most prominent female in her respective saga. Who knows, it could really just rely on their preferences.

Are you sure they really need to experiment with integrating old and new characters? They've done it plenty of times in the past. Like you said Misty can easily appear again, it's just the writer's reluctance that's the issue.

Right now I can understand the rational to not include Misty. If May were to appear again then I'd be a bit intrigued.

When will someone return shouldn't be based on in how many episodes he was in, but if current story and character itself would benefit from return being always refreshing and interesting to see older favorites updated and took to new directions.
I agree. It's a shame that these characters seem so disposable.

My guess is that since Junior tournament as far as we know is going to happen before Unova league, could likely be only prequel to more advanced and complex tournaments in BW2 arc. Some sort of introduction with presence of E4 members and champion being special privilege for trainers to have chance to try themselves out in battle against some of best.

By time Ash finish up BW league there will be 2 years waiting to be filled up before 6th generation starts. Which leads me to believe how concept of world tournament being divided in several small tournaments might become reality and transferred to filler arc in which older friends could return later on. There simply doesn't exist enough material to support filler arc right now, so its not so incredible to expect other older friends coming back after Dawn as well.

This would be nice to see. More international tournaments would make it easy to have older characters appear without coming up with terrible excuses. *cough*BrockjoiningAshinDP*cough*

JadeSkittles
June 22nd, 2012, 03:25 PM
THE cgi would not have been so bad if they did not shown all those Pokemon in like the first 13 episodes. If they changed it up after revealing the first set it would of been better.

ShadowStriatonTriad
June 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM
Not my favorite, but it's sooo much better than the other opening AND both English openings...bleh. P.S. Screw Hikari she sucks! Delete it!

DBZ fan
June 23rd, 2012, 02:58 AM
With Dawn I really think it's just a matter of keeping with the pattern, and I'm not quite sure if they're getting better with follow-ups, because Misty got way better treatment than May and especially Max. We also still haven't seen Brock again, but to be fair, he did appear in a spin-off episode. You know, that "precita" guy might be on to something. It really does feel that the writers absolutely adore Dawn sometimes. I would have to say that she was the most prominent female in her respective saga. Who knows, it could really just rely on their preferences.

I dunno.
Dawn is already going to get much better follow up than Misty and May did combined. Aside from DP special, she might very well become recurring character for whole BW2 arc getting massive amount of foreshadowing, appearing on promotional poster and being showed as someone relevant judging by new opening.

From current info, Dawn role will be a lot bigger than simple appearance for few episodes with writers deciding to do something unexpected breaking past patterns.

Though while she may have been first real co-star and im glad that she receives such recognition, that doesn't change fact how other girls were important as well deserving better. Misty was original girl which left big impact on OS being part of most iconic group paving out way for others, while May introduced contests so it is in a way unfair that Dawn receives so much while other characters are getting short end of stick.

About Misty follow up, she got more than May did in quantity(only reason May wasn't in hosos was because thy stopped airing before she left cast) but when it comes to quality May appearance in Wallace Cup advanced more her own story than Misty appearances in set of two episodes really did. As character Misty never really got closure being less fleshed out than other girls, she barely made any notable progress in her venture of becoming water master(aside from Whirl Cup and few other occasions in Johto) and in my honest opinion she deserves more screen time not being given enough. She may have returned before, but there is no reason why she shouldn't again not deserving to rot forgotten.

Just like Brock deserves to return again regardless of being in anime much longer than any other main character(san Ash)was.

However its all matter of personal preference, People which liked May more don't care so much wanting to see May more, while Misty fans rather prefer that she comes back. But objectively everyone deserve chance to shine.I wouldn't even mind if Misty, May or someone else return to main cast for shorter period like season, being enough to do continuation and great development and serve as dash of fresh unexpected air being intrigues to see how would older more mature and experienced companion work in today format and cast.
It would be more fun and different than usual introduction of new companions, and judging by hype older companions bring good for ratings too.

About Max we have to accept unfortunately that he is going same way like Tracey did being less important to anime than main girls were.


Are you sure they really need to experiment with integrating old and new characters? They've done it plenty of times in the past. Like you said Misty can easily appear again, it's just the writer's reluctance that's the issue. I meant how they are experimenting in sense of trying to make older character which left cast relevant in much higher degree than Misty or May did, being still part of pokemon series keeping relevance without necessarily joining main cast again but still showing on very frequent basis contributing to overall, better and more lively character interaction in main group, like rivals do.

Similar how Bakugan does for example.


Right now I can understand the rational to not include Misty. If May were to appear again then I'd be a bit intrigued.To be fair only reason is their reluctance. Right now Misty has marketing value(bigger than she had in HGSS remakes), popularity and appeal aren't issues and new games give something which she could do bringing benefit to story and giving easy way to reintroduce character and make relevant again.

With May i think she has most logical chance to comeback for RS remakes as representative of this generation, making more sense to use her instead of someone new.


This would be nice to see. More international tournaments would make it easy to have older characters appear without coming up with terrible excuses. *cough*BrockjoiningAshinDP*cough*I will be completely honest here.
After so much time i wish Misty would return for at least 10 episodes(if Dawn can, others could as well) having credible reason and potential to be there such as traveling to compete in events host by Cynthia to advance her own water master dream, catch new Unova pokemon(they can't be obtained in Kanto), and advertize games(since she is named as trainer in BW2). I wouldn't be surprised if her Horsea already evolved to Kingdra, or Azurill to Azumarill.

May coming back for some extended visit would be great too. If writers decide to incorporate world tournament with gym leaders in BW2, i could see Norman appearing and his presence would increase chances for Max and May return(despite there not being contests)as well.

I could see Brock appearing at some point too though, to give us update on his doctor career.

BW2 saga has massive potential, and hopefully writers wont screw that up and ignore all those possibilities.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
June 23rd, 2012, 08:50 AM
How I wish they had the tournament. That would be the best excuse to bring back those old characters we love (and in some cases hate) so much ^_^. They have the potential for a massive team up here.

weedle_mchairybug
July 1st, 2012, 09:55 AM
How I wish they had the tournament. That would be the best excuse to bring back those old characters we love (and in some cases hate) so much ^_^. They have the potential for a massive team up here.

You mean they aren't going to have the tournament?! Jeez, that's a letdown.

Also, personally, I'm not sure why they'd bring Dawn back of all people. I know it's something of a tradition to have the previous female return for a brief period of time, but the way they've done it now makes extremely little sense, as Dawn would have to interrupt her goals of becoming a Pokemon Coordinator to visit Unova, which is completely barren of Contests, which essentially means they are bringing her back for absolutely no sensible reason whatsoever. At least with Misty, they foreshadowed her appearance with the Hoso special, plus she wasn't confined to a goal thanks to becoming a Gym Leader, and even May's appearance in DP had the excuse of there being a contest that would qualify for any region she was currently participating in (in this case, her ribbon would qualify for Johto, even if it was technically won at Sinnoh). Dawn, however, has absolutely no reason to go to Unova as far as I know, and besides, Ash doesn't just interrupt his own journey to return to Kanto and visit Brock or Misty or any of those characters, so why should she? I don't think the writers quite thought this through regarding Dawn's return, as there's no real reason for her to return even for a couple of episodes, much less have her appear for the entire arc as advertized. It would have made more sense to just have Misty and/or Brock return for that arc, and that's just from looking at it pragmatically and logically.

Satoshi Ookami
July 2nd, 2012, 02:31 AM
Looking at it pragmatically and logically, Hikari is the only possibility.
1) As you mentioned it's what writers always do
2) The main reason is Shirona. Shirona is Sinnoh's Champion so if there were to bring old character Hikari was the only possibility. How could Shirona take someone else when she stays in Sinnoh?
And we all know that Hikari likes to sharp her battling skills more than the other female companions beside Iris so that's the reason number 3.

DBZ fan
July 2nd, 2012, 03:13 AM
In reality main reason why Dawn is coming back is because of tradition of past female companion getting regional cameo once they leave cast, and since she still didn't get one(unless you count DP special)this was to expect.

However if we are talking about logic
Advertizing also plays important part in everything as well, and since Misty and Brock are in BW2 games its not farfetched to expect writers deciding to use both for marketing purposes thanks to their iconic status and popularity.

If anything Misty has even stronger justification to return because of being gym leader qualifying as perfect candidate for world tournament. Her goal was to become water pokemon master having unfinished story so going on journey to catch Unova water types and enter tournaments host by Cynthia would significantly help Misty to improve and grow as trainer by battling trainers of high caliber, gaining a lot more experience that way. Which would ultimately bring her closer toward fulfillment of dream and help advertize BW2 games because of being in them. Just like Ash she always wanted to constantly improve and grow stronger, and interestingly enough her game counterpart is called trainer Misty now.

Brock definitely comes in consideration too being valid candidate to be used for marketing. He may pursue doctor thing which isn't connected with battling, but doctors tend to travel and Brock is still studying. I could see him coming to do some research and do field work with something motivating him to enter tournaments.

After all if Dawn could return for not only simple cameo despite not being in new games to help advertize them and despite there not existing contests in Unova, there is no reason why others couldn't too.

After Unova league finish there will be around 1 year at least left before new games gets released, so its obvious there will be created filler arc. World tournament is in reality most plausible thing left and i believe Junior Cup might only be prequel leading to more advanced and complex tournaments later down the road offering secondary quest for Ash to do.

So far we got only small amount of info revealed about BW2 filler arc, and we don't know how will whole arc play out. So i guess we will just have to wait and see what future brings.

weedle_mchairybug
July 2nd, 2012, 04:33 AM
Looking at it pragmatically and logically, Hikari is the only possibility.
1) As you mentioned it's what writers always do
2) The main reason is Shirona. Shirona is Sinnoh's Champion so if there were to bring old character Hikari was the only possibility. How could Shirona take someone else when she stays in Sinnoh?
And we all know that Hikari likes to sharp her battling skills more than the other female companions beside Iris so that's the reason number 3.

Dawn was more of a contest battler than a battler in the same category as Cynthia and Ash, so she had little use in a region that has no Pokemon Contests (I mean, did ASH go to regions that only had pokemon contests and not Gyms and the like?). And besides which, last I checked, the only female character who actually cared about honing her battling skills (ie, gym and league-related battles) in actual trainer battles besides Iris was Misty, so the third reason doesn't actually apply to her at all.

Then again, it's also likely that Dawn was only added into the opening as a way to promote her appearance and yet still have her leave after a few episodes. They had May and Dawn appear in one of the DP openings as well, and May was only around for a few episodes, and Misty, aside from her lure, never appeared at all.

And Dawn has to have been pretty quick to finish both Hoenn and Kanto before heading to Unova. After all, she left for Hoenn in that special to do contests in the region, and we already know that Kanto has contests as well, so unless she won Hoenn offscreen, I find it hard to believe that she'd enter a region that has absolutely no contests. It's unlikely that she'd interrupt her own journey just to visit Ash. Ash never interrupted his own journey just to visit his own friends, and even with May, when she went to Sinnoh, it wasn't to visit friends so much as get an inter-regional ribbon for a Pokemon Contest.

Mew~
July 2nd, 2012, 05:22 AM
And Dawn has to have been pretty quick to finish both Hoenn and Kanto before heading to Unova. After all, she left for Hoenn in that special to do contests in the region, and we already know that Kanto has contests as well, so unless she won Hoenn offscreen, I find it hard to believe that she'd enter a region that has absolutely no contests. It's unlikely that she'd interrupt her own journey just to visit Ash. Ash never interrupted his own journey just to visit his own friends, and even with May, when she went to Sinnoh, it wasn't to visit friends so much as get an inter-regional ribbon for a Pokemon Contest.
Dude, haven't seen you around these parts in ages, it's nice to see an old face.

Hm, it's pretty interesting, but I'm sure it's just a small detour. Like May was still in the middle of her Johto Contest battles, but came over to battle in the Wallace Cup (seeing as it did count towards a ribbon in Johto too), and probably to evolve her Eevee, but I can't remember if anything mentioned that it was intentional to head near Snowpoint City to the Ice Rock.

Adding to that, Dawn mentioned seeing Elesa and the Musicals, which she seemed interested in, which I think makes for a liable reason to heading to Unova, even for a break. Although I've only seen the episode pictures so far, I've no clue what she said about them.

Jorah
July 2nd, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oh wow I just love this opening theme! I haven't watched Pokemon in such a long time after finding the BW anime to be a disappointment. However, finding this opening yesterday made me give it another chance, so I watched the last 2 eps of BW and first of BW2; I'm hooked again XD

I have literally listened to this song over 100 times, if Endless Video is telling me the truth XD It's so much more upbeat than Best Wishes, which I found to be more ending theme material than opening. Yeah, the part where they're all flying around is really weird, but the song is going on about being an arrow and...arrows fly, apparently. It does have a little pun with Hikari when she jumps in :D

The full version comes out 18th July according to Dogasu, I can't wait :D

Oh yeah, just saying, I find the Meloetta ending theme lyrics a little disturbing XD

NiallC
July 3rd, 2012, 06:14 PM
Although it has made some things look interesting it also makes it look like things are going to be concentrating on Ash a lot more than they have in Best Wishes. Neither Burgundy or Georgia have been shown whilst all three of Ash's rivals are seen near the end. It just makes me think that it means we aren't going to see Cilan and Iris have any major interaction with anyone other than Ash.

Hopefully we see Paul return because if this tournament is as big as they will probably make it out to be then I'm sure Paul will drop by to have a go. Hopefully they can bring back a few other rivals as well because I'd love to see how Ritchie and Tyson have gotten on especially considering Tyson won the Ever Grande Conference.

DaEpicTrainer
July 3rd, 2012, 09:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/hZoep.png
Charizard approves! <.<
I like it because of charizard.I don't watch it but it's good.5th gen sux.

dracoflare
July 4th, 2012, 08:13 AM
Dawn was more of a contest battler than a battler in the same category as Cynthia and Ash, so she had little use in a region that has no Pokemon Contests (I mean, did ASH go to regions that only had pokemon contests and not Gyms and the like?). And besides which, last I checked, the only female character who actually cared about honing her battling skills (ie, gym and league-related battles) in actual trainer battles besides Iris was Misty, so the third reason doesn't actually apply to her at all.

Then again, it's also likely that Dawn was only added into the opening as a way to promote her appearance and yet still have her leave after a few episodes. They had May and Dawn appear in one of the DP openings as well, and May was only around for a few episodes, and Misty, aside from her lure, never appeared at all.

And Dawn has to have been pretty quick to finish both Hoenn and Kanto before heading to Unova. After all, she left for Hoenn in that special to do contests in the region, and we already know that Kanto has contests as well, so unless she won Hoenn offscreen, I find it hard to believe that she'd enter a region that has absolutely no contests. It's unlikely that she'd interrupt her own journey just to visit Ash. Ash never interrupted his own journey just to visit his own friends, and even with May, when she went to Sinnoh, it wasn't to visit friends so much as get an inter-regional ribbon for a Pokemon Contest.

If you actually bothered to watch the episode, she has come for the musicals where she met Cynthia. And when the sinnoh champion herself invites you to a free for all tournament...you obviously won't turn down the offer would ya?

weedle_mchairybug
July 4th, 2012, 09:05 AM
If you actually bothered to watch the episode, she has come for the musicals where she met Cynthia. And when the sinnoh champion herself invites you to a free for all tournament...you obviously won't turn down the offer would ya?

I don't have Cartoon Network, and I'm also staying away from Youtube because of it currently being owned by Google, which has done things that, as a Conservative Christian American, I inherently disagree with, I also haven't completely mastered Japanese, and I'm still on boycott from Pokemon for their stupid decision late Johto, so I'm sorry I didn't know any of this.

And... actually, that's deeply strange. Why didn't they make it a bit more simple and make Pokemon Musicals the next Pokemon Contests at the start of BW instead of basically saying there won't be any Pokemon Contests whatsoever in BW, even going as far as to show Jessie throwing away her Jessalina outfit?

And to answer your question, if said tournament is not the kind of style that's part of my goals, yes, I actually would refuse even the champion of my region.

QuietDragon
July 13th, 2012, 08:59 AM
I love Pokemon openings and endings! They're almost always well-animated, even if the animation's minimal in some, with great music.

On the other hand, Best Wishes seems to be trying to do something different with its first opening... the music is still of the same great quality, but the 3D animation's just... weird. ^^;

This second opening's closer to the norm, so I like it a lot more!

The animation is good and the arrows of light for the characters in the beginning is lovely. But them flying along with them in the ending is just. Bizarre. It's the Manaphy movie's bizarro ending all over again. I appreciate all the shots of old characters and the part with the pillars and temple and such is so dramatic and cool!

On second viewing, Satoshi-tachi flying off isn't so weird to me anymore, so I like it a lot more. ^_^ Not the best, but hey! I appreciate the lovely animation and including so many of the characters!