View Full Version : B/W: Anyone Else Hate Castelia City?

June 29th, 2012, 6:53 AM
On my second playthrough of White(about a year after my first), I've gotten to Castella city. I had forgotten how ugly this city was. It's so pixelated, foggy and the camera unnecessarily zooms out massively. Not only that but most of the city is made up of placeholder buildings to make the city seem bigger. Sure, it's good that it seems like a real city but it's really annoying how hard it is to find the important buildings that you can actually enter. And finally, there's so many different little areas in the city when in pretty much every other city, there is only one area for the exterior. It's really annoying walking into blue fog and waiting a few seconds for the next area to load. So, does anyone else hate Castella city, or is it just me?

Mango Dolphin
June 29th, 2012, 7:31 AM
I don't hate it, but I kinda like it. But what really ticks me off is that it is really hard to find the building your looking for. I want to rename the Pokemon I have, but I cannot find him ever again due to this.

June 29th, 2012, 7:33 AM
It's a huge city thats how it is,ugly. It was also the first time they ever did something like that,so it will probably be fixed in White 2/Black 2. The only reason it zooms out is because the makers wanted to show you how massive the building were.

June 29th, 2012, 7:37 AM
Ooh good, something potentially discussion worthy though we don't necessarily need threads on every city in B/W in case anybody has that planned! n_n

I'm quite the opposite, really. I love Castelia City. I wish the zoom outs would be further, actually. :( I like seeing what's in the distance, and I was kind of disappointed we originally couldn't go further in Castelia City because I'd have liked to see the strange angles from the docks and stuff. I was also kinda annoyed that we couldn't access every single building but there was a lot more than normal that we could actually access so it turned out pretty fine. I dunno, I'm fine with the waiting times, too.

lmao I have that issue too at finding things, Mango. I remember when I first played the games it was like idk, MANY months later that I even discovered more buildings in Castelia (the Zorua one I'm p sure was undiscovered by me for a while :x)

I hope lots of people jump in and contribute thoughts!! Just sayinggg. :3

June 29th, 2012, 3:23 PM
I find it annoying to traverse through. I don't hate it, but it's just...a bit annoying. I like what they were going for, but it's just so grey there! lol I may not live in the city irl, but I thought they were covered in lights and weren't that grey. It's a hassle getting into some buildings too, especially the ones on the sides like where the name rater is. Overall, I like what they were going for, but in some aspects, I think it fell a little flat. But I think it's generally well liked among fans so, eh. It's outshined by Nimbasa City!

June 29th, 2012, 8:56 PM
I really disliked the city. It had a cool idea but... I couldn't find anything, it was hard to go through because of the many areas that didn't really have anything in them. I don't really like the camera zooms myself imo.

Yeah, Sydian, I live in a city and they're not really that grey :c they could have put a lot of color in it but I guess they didn't.

Mystical Mermaid
June 29th, 2012, 9:42 PM
As a native of the Tri-State area, I have to say Nintendo nailed it when designing Castella City. Unless you grew up in Manhattan (and I didn't), the skyscrapers are drab, every street looks the same and it's impossible to find where you want to go. However, I really don't have much issue with it otherwise. The zoomed out camera and multiple areas really give it a "big city" feel that the other towns don't have, much like how Manhattan's buildings tower over the other boroughs. While this may hurt the gameplay value, I think it really works for atmosphere.

June 29th, 2012, 9:46 PM
The minute I saw Castelia City in the first B/W trailer, I crapped my pants. But now, I just find it difficult to find places you need to go. I like that they tried to do something different, but it just wasn't executed as well as it could have.

Also this is a small nitpick, but wouldn't the dancer trio be a perfect opportunity to have a triple battle? Seriously.

I've never liked the city. It smells like smoke, crime everywhere, construction ALL THE TIME, it doesn't look nice (Its grey and miserable), its a pain to get around, its crowded, and its hard to live in. Trust me...

June 29th, 2012, 10:40 PM
When I first saw the city I thought it was going to be absolutely amazing. Of course, it was not absolutely amazing, but I don't think I hated it either. It was something of a pain to navigate through, though, and the camera made me run in to a lot of things.

Despite that, I think that, with some improvements, I'd like to see a city like it, or some unique kind of city, in the future. I think a lot of good ideas were put in to Castelia City that could have been better tied together.

June 30th, 2012, 6:14 AM
Castelia City has amazing potential. I do like the passersby feature; it creates a nice city-like atmosphere. However, like the others, I had an unfortunately painful time getting lost (especially the name rater, oh my, he's hard to find). I think the designers should come up with a map directory.

June 30th, 2012, 7:00 AM
All I hated about it was how difficult it was to find your way around. I got used to it eventually, though. The fogginess is probably because the air is so polluted (like a typical big city). And I thought the people running by was an interesting little look at how we're all together, but at the same time we're all off in our own little worlds.

But honestly, Castelia offered me one of the most memorable scenes in any of the Pokemon games: receiving Flash in the small alley from a guy who jumps out at you from behind a Dumpster.

July 2nd, 2012, 5:15 AM
I actually really like the idea of it. Perhaps it wasn't perfectly executed, but I still like it. It's unique, potential to be improved on, and... yeah. The "big cities" in the games are always my favourites, and Castelia City is no exception.

Mr Cat Dog
July 3rd, 2012, 6:04 AM
I really like Castelia, but I do wish there was more stuff to do once you've finally arrived there. As the OP says, a lot of the buildings are just empty space and pixels, and I really do feel like a lot more stuff could have been done with it. In that sense, while I really do like Castelia, it was kinda of a disappointment, as I was expecting so much that it couldn't possibly deliver. But other stuff like wandering around and the zooms were things that I was a really big fan of, and hope to see in future games. To me, they seemed like great innovations and a good usage of the DS' capabilities.

July 3rd, 2012, 8:16 PM
Visually, I thought Castelia was pretty good. I thought it presented the idea of being a really big city, bustling with people very well. Zooming in and out of the tall buildings was a cool way to show the sheer scale of everything, and having all the busy people running through the streets was a nice little touch. And it made for a fun 'mini-game' for me to try and run into everyone, hehe.

I do agree with those that pointed out how difficult it was to find your way around at first, though.

July 3rd, 2012, 8:23 PM
I kinda love the views of Castelia City. It's beautiful, in a way. But my only problem with it is that it changes camera angle based on where you are (down to one line). So if you cross that line really fast again and again (and trust me that has happened so many times) it gets you somewhat dizzy.

Annnnnnnd also it's kinda hard to find your way around because of the side-entrances (a game with a perspective like Pokémon should never have side doors) so it's 1) hard to find doors and 2) hard to find doors that actually lead somewhere.

Also the same goes for Skyarrow Bridge.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire
July 3rd, 2012, 8:25 PM
I loved it. I'm a city slicker.:)

July 3rd, 2012, 11:10 PM
I love it- I've been living in Tokyo for the past year, and I think it's pretty accurate... When you get in to the central business region of Tokyo, especially Shinjuku, it gets pretty ugly and confusing in real life too.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 4th, 2012, 7:21 PM
It's not really my favorite city, I perfer Nimbasa to it but I wouldn't say I hate it. I just think they ruined the chance to make an awesome city, but rather it was mostly just...there. There was really little reason to go there anymore despite being "the Capitol" of the region... Though it seems they fixed that ' no reason to go there' in the sequels :3

July 4th, 2012, 7:48 PM
I thought I was the only one..

I hate that city with a passion, mainly because it's so big, but doesn't have enough to offer for me although I do love my Zorua.
If I do go there, it's to try and cut off the people running up and down that street for as long as possible.

July 4th, 2012, 10:39 PM
When i first saw Castelia City i thought it was gonna be one of my favourites for sure and i would visit there often, now its just ugly, boring and hard as hell to find certain buildings -.-

July 5th, 2012, 3:22 AM
At first I disliked trying to find my way around, however I just got used to it, it seems overwhelming at first but then you appreciate it (I did anyway).

July 5th, 2012, 4:39 AM
Hey, it's one of my favourite city :pink_disbelief:
I'm surprised that so many of you don't like it at all. Ok, I admit that the difficulty to find in which buildings we can enter or not is very annoying. But it's actually the city I enjoyed the most to go all over it, precisely to discover each little place, each little road, and so on.
Its design is just awesome. Really, a delight for the eyes. Just for this reason, I don't mind if I don't in which building I can go, just running across the city is enough for me, just to contemplate the place.
Of course, it has negative points but... For once we have a so beautiful town, I won't complain about them, they don't disturb me at all.

July 5th, 2012, 6:28 AM
Actually i think Castelia is pretty cool even though it's hard to find stuff. Nintendo did a great job posing it after Manhattan

Ultimate Uchiha
July 5th, 2012, 9:10 AM
I wouldn't say I hate it but it does get annoying to navigate through sometimes but other than that I say it's a pretty cool city.

July 5th, 2012, 7:02 PM
When i first play through pokemon white i hated how castelia city turned out, but oh no not because its ugly but because of navigation i bumped into so many things i deserved one of b2/w2s medals
But my second playthrough i fell in love with castelia and i completly forgot about navigating the layout is very simple to memorize. I was so good at memorizing the city that i now know it like the back of my hand

Shining Raichu
July 5th, 2012, 8:01 PM
If I do go there, it's to try and cut off the people running up and down that street for as long as possible.

Bahahaha I do that too! That was one of my favourite hobbies - racing the people up the street and then darting across to cut them off and make them late for work :P

I don't hate the city though; I think it's a cool original concept for a Pokemon city. Maybe it's not perfect, but it's a stepping stone to perfect it for future games.

July 14th, 2012, 12:35 AM
Actually getting in the way of those people was one of the most fun things in the Castelia City. I think it added realism to the city, so for an "experimental" city that actually helped make it more appealing. That and the whole line for the Casteliacone helped make the city more interesting imo.

July 14th, 2012, 12:46 AM
I thought Castelia was pure eye candy. It was beautiful looking, and I loved how the pedestrians just walked around there occasionally saying things. They did a heck of a job making that city. I can agree that the city's a pain to get around, but if you can remember key landmarks of the city and what street it's on, navigating the city becomes loads easier. :pink_wink:

Katie the Friendly Ghost
July 14th, 2012, 8:59 PM
Yes I did hate Castelia, and for pretty stupid reasons. One, the speech bubbles from the passing people was annoying. There were so many buildings I couldn't find where I wanted to go. I'm pretty sure the Name Rater is somewhere in that city too. Finally, the music is sooo annoying there. I don't know why, but I just hate it.

I'm such a hater haha.

July 14th, 2012, 10:05 PM
Yes I did hate Castelia, and for pretty stupid reasons. One, the speech bubbles from the passing people was annoying. There were so many buildings I couldn't find where I wanted to go. I'm pretty sure the Name Rater is somewhere in that city too. Finally, the music is sooo annoying there. I don't know why, but I just hate it.

I'm such a hater haha.
He's actually one of the easy ones to find. In the part leading into the Route 4 gatehouse, very first building coming FROM the gatehouse, on the bottom floor.


Katie the Friendly Ghost
July 15th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Oh is that the road where the people aren't like all running?

July 15th, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oh is that the road where the people aren't like all running?
No, that's either the alley-type road or the one where the Gym is. Those are the two without hordes of people.

You know where Route 4 is? Go to the gatehouse at the south end. Exit into the city. Look on the left. First entrance heading into the city.

Me, I like the concept of showing a big city like this, but it seems out of place for a Pokémon game. If you think something is lacking, it probably got left behind to add a big city needing lots of memory to store.


Grandpa Freeman
July 15th, 2012, 1:33 PM
I really loved Castelia city in fact its probably my favorite city in all of pokemon games because it just added so much to the game the 3d effects were really good for a ds game and i thought that since there was a lot to do that it made it more fun it reminded me of the capital city in the hunger games but maybe a bit smaller

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
July 17th, 2012, 4:57 AM
It's my favorite Pokemon city concept-wise. It's the large metropolis (which I like) with a distinctly urban feel, and the feeling of being swallowed up by the crowds and skyscrapers is very similar to the real life Manhattan/Times Square, which I've visited as recently as this past April.

However, navigating it can be a total pain. Entrances to buildings aren't always clear, the zoom-outs can be annoying, and the streets (aside from Narrow Street) are so similar that it's easy to end up going down the wrong one. Of course, the real life Manhattan can be just as confusing in real life, but from a gameplay prspective it's still a bother.

So yeah, Castelia City - I love the atmosphere, but I don't like navigating it when I have a particular destination in mind.