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Forever
July 7th, 2012, 11:28 PM
Okay so I'm just going to start making threads here more often, not sure if this'll necessarily get posts, but hey. It's about Pokemon, but really, trying to fight it will get us nowhere and it's kind of interesting!

So most Pokemon in Unova have evolutions, aside from 7 + legendaries, or something along those lines. If you had to remove one evolution, say, make Herdier the final evolution of Lillipup, how would you enhance Herdier's stats to make up for Stoutland, would you redesign Herdier and would you make it appear less in Unova? ***Just an example***

You can do this for any Unova Pokemon (as many as you want), I figure it'd be a kind of interesting discussion if you guys are willing to post, and basically "recreate" Unova into how you wanted it to be, in terms of evolutions/Pokemon. If you want, you can also remove entire evolution lines entirely, so a Pokemon doesn't evolve at all, or change how it evolves too. Remember if you wanna discuss the specifics of what you like/dislike the most or found disappointing, use the threads for that, but this is just for interesting creativity n_n

DISCUSS!!! Also take the time to think before posting something as it'll lead to better posts, imo!

SuperTreaz
July 8th, 2012, 11:56 AM
I would take out Haxorus. I never really liked him.
I would give Fraxure a better moveset, probably make him learn more defensive attacks, to make him more awesome, IMO.
I would give him higher Defensive stats, and much higher Offensive ones, also, to bump him up to "Haxorus standards".
With this "new" Fraxure, I would also make him a Steel/Dragon type, because of his newly found defensive tricks and also give him some iron plating to match.

All because the Haxorus I found on the GTS was horrible.

Evisector
July 8th, 2012, 12:04 PM
I would remove Larvesta and make Volcarona a single non-evolution Pokemon, since it differs so much from Larvesta and already has great stats. Maybe make it a legendary since you can only find it in Relic Castle... I would remove Larvesta regardless of whether legendary status was bestowed on Volcarona though.

Altairis
July 8th, 2012, 09:36 PM
I would give Audino a baby prevolution (that evolves with happiness) because right now it just seems... random. I guess it just reminds me of Chansey a lot and Chansey has a baby prevolution.

I don't know if this counts, but I'd remove Throh/Sawk or completely redesign them, they look kinda odd to me and maybe... too humanoid? I've never really liked that kind of Pokemon. Also maayyybbee this doesn't count but I would change around the Klink line poses so they don't all look exactly the same.

I would make Alomomola evolve from Luvdic because come on, Gamefreak, it looks exactly like a Luvdic anyway. (Seriously, wtf?) Also, Bouffalant would evolve from Tauros. I'd also give Druddigon an evolution, because it looks awesome and it's stats aren't so great, so it's evolution would be awesomely overpowered and make up for that.

Ummmm yeah I think that's about it, I wouldn't really change anything else, I like all the evolutionary lines. C:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 8th, 2012, 11:12 PM
I would make Haxorus Dragon/Steel to give it higher defenses and make it into a Pseudo legendary.
I would also give Lavesta a middle form between it and Volcarona. The level for this evolution would be 35. It would look like a mini volcarona but still have the sun crest that lavesta has.

Zayphora
July 9th, 2012, 03:45 PM
I would give Purrloin a third evolution form. It would be panther-like, and have a split, forked tail. It would be called Trampther.(tramp+panther) and have a good Speed stats. You would need to level Liepard up at night in summer to get Trampther.

xShadow46
July 9th, 2012, 06:08 PM
I would give Durant a evolved form.
It can be like Combee from Gen IV, it only evolves if Female.
Female Durants can evolve into a Queen Ant type Pokemon similar to how Combee evolves into a Queen Bee.

Plasmette
July 9th, 2012, 09:51 PM
I would give Purrloin a third evolution form. It would be panther-like, and have a split, forked tail. It would be called Trampther.(tramp+panther) and have a good Speed stats. You would need to level Liepard up at night in summer to get Trampther.

Liepard doesn't deserve ANYTHING. It doesn't deserve to be good. Its suckage has cast it into an eternal hole...for things that suck, from which it cannot escape.

I would remove Larvesta and make Volcarona a single non-evolution Pokemon, since it differs so much from Larvesta and already has great stats. Maybe make it a legendary since you can only find it in Relic Castle... I would remove Larvesta regardless of whether legendary status was bestowed on Volcarona though.

Noooo, Larvesta is soooo cute. Whicih gives me an idea...


I would put an evolution in between Larvesta and Volcarona. Level 59 is a bit too late for something to evolve, and it would be so awesome if there were some Metapod like thing. It would be called...Morphiery (Metamorphoses+Fiery)

And you can catch them in the wild it will only learn harden and everyone would name it inappropriate things lololololol

Cyclone
July 14th, 2012, 09:06 PM
Liepard doesn't deserve ANYTHING. It doesn't deserve to be good. Its suckage has cast it into an eternal hole...for things that suck, from which it cannot escape.



Noooo, Larvesta is soooo cute. Whicih gives me an idea...


I would put an evolution in between Larvesta and Volcarona. Level 59 is a bit too late for something to evolve, and it would be so awesome if there were some Metapod like thing. It would be called...Morphiery (Metamorphoses+Fiery)

And you can catch them in the wild it will only learn harden and everyone would name it inappropriate things lololololol
Metapod evolve at a very early level. Are you saying you want a cocoon in your party until Level 59?

Cyclone

Forever
August 3rd, 2012, 11:16 PM
I would give Purrloin a third evolution form. It would be panther-like, and have a split, forked tail. It would be called Trampther.(tramp+panther) and have a good Speed stats. You would need to level Liepard up at night in summer to get Trampther.

I love that tbh. I mean I'm not really a fan of Liepard in particular but I'm sure that'll fix up the hate everyone has for it. :3 Maybe like, a special attacking version?

I love your views on it though Plasmette loool.

GolurkIsDaBomb
August 3rd, 2012, 11:26 PM
I really like the Trampther idea too.

As for what I'd do, I'd make beeheeyem have a super cool evo with like a cape and incredible sp atk/sp df/defense/maybe some better attack.

I would name it E.Teeheeyem.

I'd also give swoobat an evolution using a uh stone, I guess? It would be even sleeker, faster, more special attack and high Hp. It would like a pokemon that meant business, more vampire-like, I guess. Still playing on the heart love theme, but in a less happy-go-lucky way.

Maybe I'd call it... Aphrodisibat.

That's all I got. XD

Forever
August 3rd, 2012, 11:33 PM
I really like the Trampther idea too.

As for what I'd do, I'd make beeheeyem have a super cool evo with like a cape and incredible sp atk/sp df/defense/maybe some better attack.

I would name it E.Teeheeyem.

I'd also give swoobat an evolution using a uh stone, I guess? It would be even sleeker, faster, more special attack and high Hp. It would like a pokemon that meant business, more vampire-like, I guess. Still playing on the heart love theme, but in a less happy-go-lucky way.

Maybe I'd call it... Aphrodisibat.

That's all I got. XD

looool I love the name @ ET but I don't think you can use full sto--oh wait Mr Mime, so maybeee. Not sure about how it'd look with a cape though lmao.

Oh I can actually visualise this one! n_n Give it a signature attack too which involves sucking... hearts?

GolurkIsDaBomb
August 3rd, 2012, 11:39 PM
By cape I meant like the kind of cape like thing it has already. XD
but a legitimate cape of flesh would be cool too

And it'd be known as the heart-breaker pokemon! :D

Also, We need a pre-evolution for cryogonal.

It would be happy, and look like a snowflake.
Maybe Joyflake?

And a cool evolution, through max unhappiness. It would be named psighogonal, and be psychic type. It'd have emo hair and would have the tendency to sigh a lot.

Okay, that was a joke. but actually, maybe a ice/water type evo through max unhappiness. It'd be like a melted snowflake (or melting snowflae) and be named Dismystal (Dismal/crystal? I'm terrible at naming things lol)

Ciax
August 4th, 2012, 05:08 PM
I feel Druddigon is a bit too large and developed to be a single stage evolution, I feel like he should have a prevolution, just a smaller version.

And Swoobat definitely deserves an evolution, I love that evolution line but they are a bit too weak.

Dmatt
August 4th, 2012, 09:27 PM
I would take out Haxorus. I never really liked him.
I would give Fraxure a better moveset, probably make him learn more defensive attacks, to make him more awesome, IMO.
I would give him higher Defensive stats, and much higher Offensive ones, also, to bump him up to "Haxorus standards".
With this "new" Fraxure, I would also make him a Steel/Dragon type, because of his newly found defensive tricks and also give him some iron plating to match.

All because the Haxorus I found on the GTS was horrible.

I love Haxorus, but now I'm just sad because it isn't Dragon/Steel :-/

Forever
August 7th, 2012, 01:58 AM
By cape I meant like the kind of cape like thing it has already. XD
but a legitimate cape of flesh would be cool too

And it'd be known as the heart-breaker pokemon! :D

Also, We need a pre-evolution for cryogonal.

It would be happy, and look like a snowflake.
Maybe Joyflake?

And a cool evolution, through max unhappiness. It would be named psighogonal, and be psychic type. It'd have emo hair and would have the tendency to sigh a lot.

Okay, that was a joke. but actually, maybe a ice/water type evo through max unhappiness. It'd be like a melted snowflake (or melting snowflae) and be named Dismystal (Dismal/crystal? I'm terrible at naming things lol)
I like the second idea @ Cryogonal but maybe it could be um Melystal. Melting crystal! But yeah Cryogonal kinda is too rare to just end at that with nothing more to it ;;
I feel Druddigon is a bit too large and developed to be a single stage evolution, I feel like he should have a prevolution, just a smaller version.

And Swoobat definitely deserves an evolution, I love that evolution line but they are a bit too weak.

Oh that reminds me of a design for that! But uh if it was a less spiky less ugly version then maybe I'd like it. :3 Possibly it could also be part normal cause boring or remove Druddigon altogether.

Ninjagon
August 7th, 2012, 03:21 AM
I have a fair amount to say;

- I think that the Swoobat line should be removed completely.

- The Trampther idea appeals to me.

- I feel Zebstrika needs a bit of tweaking in design, and also altered Base Stats.

- Haxorus appears to me as a Dragon/Fighting type and i also wished that the OP Attack should be amped down from 147 to 135, allowing the stat to still hit the 400 stat mark as well as having room to move those points into HP, SpD and Speed. Also reduce its COMPLETELY USELESS SAtk down to something like 30 - 40 Base, allowing more to go into the other stats. Haxorus' BST is very, Erm... I think its confused. With 90 Base Def and not as much in SpD, yeah...

- At Lv. 38 I think there should be a middle evo for Volcarona. It's name should be something like... Briaire (Bree-air) [Bright + Flare] It took me a while to think of this name ;P xD

- Who in the bloody hell makes a mon evolve at Lv. 64? It should be 60 at the most.

- Roggenrolla has a weird design, redo please.

-Heatmor + Durant need a pre evo, higher base stats would also be nice for Heatmor.

I probably have more to say... but yeah.

That's just my two cents.

Forever
August 7th, 2012, 03:32 AM
While I think an evolution for Heatmor and Durant would be really adorable I don't think it's necessary at all :x I mean they're rivals, much like Zangoose and Seviper of gen three. I don't see it working out this time if it was a family rivalry because you'd want to add in another evolution too :( I dunno I think their power is fine as is.

Camzikazi
August 8th, 2012, 07:30 AM
luvdisc should have evolved into alomomola(level 50)
tauros should have evolved into boufallant(level w/ thrash)

Cyclone
August 8th, 2012, 12:33 PM
luvdisc should have evolved into alomomola(level 50)
tauros should have evolved into boufallant(level w/ thrash)
Not sure about the first, but the second has potential. I could see that evolution being possible.

Cyclone

allaurarenee
August 9th, 2012, 06:17 AM
Okay :3 I have a really good idea for an evolution of Swoobat! What If It evolved from a very low happiness at a certain level? Like someone said in an earlier post, it'd be known as the "heartbreaker" pokemon. :3

Idk It could be call "Succubat" Like a Succubus? :3 It would be an amazing Pokemon! c:

luvdisc should have evolved into alomomola(level 50)
tauros should have evolved into boufallant(level w/ thrash)
Not sure about the first, but the second has potential. I could see that evolution being possible.

I definitely think the first one is very plausible. However the second wouldnt make any sense. Because Boufallant has a 50-50 Gender ratio, while Tauros has a 100% chance of being male. Unless they made Boufallant the pre-evolution of Tauros and Miltank or something along those lines. (:

I would give Durant a evolved form.
It can be like Combee from Gen IV, it only evolves if Female.
Female Durants can evolve into a Queen Ant type Pokemon similar to how Combee evolves into a Queen Bee.
I really like that idea! ^.^

FrostPheonix
August 9th, 2012, 09:54 AM
go easy on me, i know barely any of the english names since I play german and i'm just too lazy to look em up.

i think heatmor's rival (ant thingy) should have an evolution... that poke is just too small atm. something like a larvae pre evo, and a big army ant evo?

bisharp should be redesigned. its first level was just so promising that i was dissapointed with it. not the concept, but maybe a different angle, and maybe not so short arms?

the ice cream cone line. the first evolve was nice, the second was ok, but the third was just a copy of the second. they added another head! wow! i say completely redesign the last one.

cavalier (or whatever its called; the thing with the two lances and a helm) should be evolved a bit easier...? i mean, i love the idea of trading with specific pokemon, but maybe implement that concept differently? Because i just don't have a handy ds and another 5 gen game to trade and get them. maybe make them evolve when they win in a battle and level up after beating that poke? but i don't have that much of a problem with it.

cacti thing with two flowers. english name..... maractus? i think a pre evolution or evolution would have been nice.

completely take out the trashbag line. I hated them. they look horrible imo, even if they may appeal to others.

sorry if you didn't get what poke i'm talking about sometimes ^^ its too confusing to learn both the english and german names.

allaurarenee
August 9th, 2012, 10:15 AM
cacti thing with two flowers. english name..... maractus? i think a pre evolution or evolution would have been nice.

Okay so I totally agree with this, but I think they should have made Cacnea be the pre-evolution of this. And If the Cacnea was a female it'd evolve into Maractus, if it were a male it'd evolve into Cacturne. :3 I think that would be an awesome evolutionary chain.

chella182
August 10th, 2012, 06:34 AM
I would take out Haxorus. I never really liked him.
I would give Fraxure a better moveset, probably make him learn more defensive attacks, to make him more awesome, IMO.
I would give him higher Defensive stats, and much higher Offensive ones, also, to bump him up to "Haxorus standards".
With this "new" Fraxure, I would also make him a Steel/Dragon type, because of his newly found defensive tricks and also give him some iron plating to match.

All because the Haxorus I found on the GTS was horrible.

Totally agree with this, Fraxure is awesome, but I proper dislike Haxorus.

Okay so I totally agree with this, but I think they should have made Cacnea be the pre-evolution of this. And If the Cacnea was a female it'd evolve into Maractus, if it were a male it'd evolve into Cacturne. :3 I think that would be an awesome evolutionary chain.

I loved Maractus (as one of the only wild Grass-types in Unova!), but wish it would've evolved into/from something, so it evolving from Cacnea would've been interesting.

Aquarius1997
August 10th, 2012, 07:12 PM
They really should put mid-evolutions between the evolutionary lines that are too far apart(i.e mienfoo, larvesta)

Also when golurkisdabomb said evolution by unhappiness, have we ever had that because we really should(its a wonderful and interesting idea)

Saturated Hue
August 11th, 2012, 12:40 AM
Since Basculin is very similar to the Shellos line (with the whole different colors thing), I'd give it an evolution. It also seems like they just threw Basculin in there for the hell of it, and an evolution would definitely patch that up in my eyes. They should decrease Basculin's base stats though because that seems a tad too powerful for a baby Pokemon, lol.

I would add a new evolution to the elemental monkeys just so that they don't end up as dead weight after the Striaton Gym. I mean, Simisear is just so cute!! <3333 And plus I think their evolutions would look a bit humanoid reflective of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. I'll call them Manpour, Mansage and Mansear! (jk lol I'd call replace the Man with Anthro probably)

I would also lower Rufflet's and Vullaby's evolution levels, and make them be found in earlier areas. They seem incredulously hard to get and train, and if you plan on making them your Fly HM holder, then you're more or less forced to use something like Sigilyph or the Pidove line beforehand; I don't think that's any fun. :<

I would increase Carracosta's base stats and give him a weakening ability as well. I think it's not fair that Archeops gets to be that strong with sufficient Potion aid while Carracosta gets left in the dust. I would have been much more content if they gave Carracosta 110/140/112 HP, Defense and SDefense stats, reflective of Archeops's Speed, Attack and SAttack stats respectively and gave him an ability that halved his defenses upon halved HP points.

allaurarenee
August 11th, 2012, 07:38 AM
I definitely think that they need to give Drugigon (don't think I spelt that right) either a preevolution or just remove it ENTIRELY. It's an abomination really. Usually when people don't like the design of a pokemon it's because it's too "digimon-like", in this case it doesn't even look like a digimon for pete's sake.. it looks like a 4 year old designed it, the art style doesn't look anything like the other pokemon in this Gen. Drugigon just looks out of place in the game.. it looks like one of the terrible hacks of a game with fakemon it.

Sorry about my rant, this is just how I feel about it.

UberUmbreon
August 11th, 2012, 02:23 PM
I would take out conkeldurr and have gurdurr the final evolution of timburr. Probably give it a better movepool and defense+attack stats.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
August 12th, 2012, 10:37 PM
Agree with the statements that Liepard needs a third evolution stage. I used it as my token cat Pokemon, but like the other cats, it's really rather mediocre in battle. Heck, maybe a split third evo where one specializes in Attack while the other is a potent Special Attacker.

Zayphora
August 14th, 2012, 08:25 AM
Oh, and I'd take out the Timburr line altogether and put in a Ground/Fighting line based on a chipmunk. It would be something like Chippadert/Mightmunk(lame names I get it okay) and be strong in Defense.

Sector
August 14th, 2012, 12:24 PM
Take out Conkeldurr!! I would just give Gurdur a boost in base stats to where Conkeldurr has it right now. & increase Timburr to Gurdur's.

Conkeldurr is surely one Pokemon we can without, right? So fugly!

Bourne-mouth
August 18th, 2012, 12:14 AM
I would give Maractus and Stunfisk an evolved form. They're fitting well to have an evolution.

I would take Larvesta out for Volcarona to be a single non evolving Pokemon. Larvesta is really... worthless to be its pre-evo. Not to mention that it evolves at level 59, so I'd just... toss it away.

Forever
August 18th, 2012, 06:23 PM
Okay I was just thinking, not about my first post in-specific, but I noticed that people complain about Liepard a lot, so why not get its counterpart to actually match it, rather than creating an evolution for Liepard? I mean just buff Herdier's attack up by idkkk 50 then it is closer to Liepard and boom, you have matching Pokemon. n_n

Kungfumidget
August 19th, 2012, 12:48 AM
take out axew's whole evolution line but make its stats alot higher as it levels up and also make it rarer maybe like you get an egg from someone or it just has a very low capture/encounter rate.

I am trying to keep axew from evolving on my pokemon white but this is proving difficult just because he dies so easily.

Cyclone
August 19th, 2012, 04:51 PM
take out axew's whole evolution line but make its stats alot higher as it levels up and also make it rarer maybe like you get an egg from someone or it just has a very low capture/encounter rate.

I am trying to keep axew from evolving on my pokemon white but this is proving difficult just because he dies so easily.
You could just keep it in the Daycare for about 800,000 steps...

Cyclone