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Honest
July 14th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the Professional Wrestling Fanclub (PWF!). This club is open to anyone and everyone who enjoys watching professional wrestling, be it the top names (World Wrestling Entertainment, Impact!) to the lesser, but still great buisnesses such as Ring of Honor and Chikara(okay, the last one's questionable).

I'm your main man Dipu, and I'll be making sure things run smoothly here. I'll be doing a bunch of little things here if we get enough people, such as question of the week, PPV coverage, and the like. I'll also provide links to site such as TJRwrestling.com, simply cause I've been a follower of Big Johnny for ages now (John Canton, the guy who "owns" the site", not Johnny Ace)

I wanna join! How do I join?

I admire your enthusiasm. You wanna join? Simply answer the following questionnaire, and if it's good, you're in!

Entry Questionnare:
-What wrestling business do you watch most?
-Who is your favorite wrestler?
-What is your favorite finisher (include the person(s) who uses it!)
-Favorite match?


What goes on in this club?

Good question! As I said earlier, there shall be PPV coverage, and perhaps coverage of the regular show as well. Definitely a recap and personal though bit. Also, if we get more people, I'll assign people to follow a certain show (Raw, Smackdown, Impact, etc). Personally, I'm more of a WWE follower, though I MIGHT watch TNA again just cause Awesome Aries got the title at Destination X.

Aside from coverage, I'll also be posting news that I obtain from different sites. Warning: I probably will not post anything Twitter related. Such as that whole Scott Steiner fiasco. It bores me to tears. Sorry!

I'll also post a question of the week every Saturday. For fun, of course.

Other tidbits might present themselves in the weeks to follow as I get this thing up and running. But for now, this is what we'll deal with. Cheers!

Members:
-Bloodex[Dipu] (Main club moderator, as of 7/14/12, in charge of... everything)
-Kanto_Johto
-Baker's Bulbasaur
-Brendino

Kanto_Johto
July 17th, 2012, 03:40 PM
Entry Questionnare:

-What wrestling business do you watch most? WWE
-Who is your favorite wrestler? Tough call, I have loads of favourites. Either Mick Foley or Ultimate Warrior.
-What is your favorite finisher (include the person(s) who uses it!)
Grapple finisher: F5 (Brock Lesnar)
Turnbuckle finisher: Pheonix Splash (Hayabusa - it's essentially a corkscrew moonsault and a 450 splash combined)
-Favorite match? Again, loads of favourites, but if I had to choose one it'd be Undertaker and Mankind's Hell in a Cell match. That match was pretty brutal. Got to admire Mankind continuing to wrestle with a dislocated shoulder and knocking a tooth out.

Video for those who haven't seen it (warning: since this is wrestling, obviously this video contains forms of violence):

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The second fall that Foley takes through the cell wasn't actually planned as part of the match.

Honest
July 17th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Entry Questionnare:

-What wrestling business do you watch most? WWE
-Who is your favorite wrestler? Tough call, I have loads of favourites. Either Mick Foley or Ultimate Warrior.
-What is your favorite finisher (include the person(s) who uses it!)
Grapple finisher: F5 (Brock Lesnar)
Turnbuckle finisher: Pheonix Splash (Hayabusa - it's essentially a corkscrew moonsault and a 450 splash combined)
-Favorite match? Again, loads of favourites, but if I had to choose one it'd be Undertaker and Mankind's Hell in a Cell match. That match was pretty brutal. Got to admire Mankind continuing to wrestle with a dislocated shoulder and knocking a tooth out.

Video for those who haven't seen it (warning: since this is wrestling, obviously this video contains forms of violence):

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The second fall that Foley takes through the cell wasn't actually planned as part of the match.

Ahhhh, I loved that match. I have the Hell in A Cell DVD, and Foley talked about how he improvised and such. Those thumbtack spots were brutal to watch. =/

Anyway's you're in!

I don't have time right now, but I'll post up a Money in The Bank review as soon as possible. For now, though, and I'm surprised this hasn't been taken down, but here is the ENTIRE PPV on Youtube. Simply click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhKrP0oqv6k). Enjoy!

Raw Review 7/16/12
Well, it was episode 999, marking the last 2 hour episode. Gonna miss those. Anyway, this is what happened:



Opening promo involving CM Punk and Big Show - Punk started off about how he said his famous pipebomb last year right in Las Vegas, which is where they were. [Click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ9LeiMkwYE) to see the promo. After a big, Show came in, and literally spoke the truth about how the company didn't revolve around Punk, rather "one man". Cena, of coruse, though they never said it. Show went on to warn Punk that after their match later tonight, after he got KTFO, Cena might cash in. Overall, very nice promo
Tag Team Championship Match: Kofi & Truth (c) vs The Primtime Players - The champs won after AW tried to help The PTPs by distracting the ref. Sort of surprised the titles got retained. At least the tag team division is sort of flickering back into life, right?
Promo involving AJ and DBryan and Eve - Started off with DBryan saying he had something important to say to AJ, but Eve interuppted saying that since DBryan ditched her last week, a new tag team match would happen between AJ and DBryan vs Eve and a partner of her choice.
Albtero Del Rio vs Zack Ryder - Del Rio squashed Ryder. Afterwards, Rey Mysterio returned and gave Rio the 619. Looking forward to this fued.
Heath Slater vs ...Rikishi! - I like Rikishi. Obviously he squashed Slater. A lot of mementos, especially of his brother Umaga with the Samoan Spike, and of Yokozuna with a Banzai Drop.
After the math, Riskishi danced with his songs, the Usos. That was amazing.
DBryan and AJ vs Even and The Miz - Miz returned at MiTB. It was a short match, with AJ getting the pin with help from DBry. Afterwards, we got a nice surprise. DBry said I love you, which he avoided before, and then did an ACTUAL proposal. Wedding's next week!
Swagger vs Ryback - Match never started. Swagger jumped Ryback, and gave all the spots, but Ryback eventually came back and just killed Swagger. Poor dude.
Promo involving Dolph and Y2J - AWESOME promo. Started off with Ziggler saying he was gonna be the next champion since he won MitB. Jericho came out, and said nothing. Ziggler talked trash saying Y2J was loosing his touch and eventually got Codebreakered for it. Welcome back, face Jericho.
Brodus Clay vs JTG - The usual. I've lost all interest in Clay...
Punk vs Show - Good little man/ big man match. Show got himself DQed by shoving the ref. No knockout punch, but he layed Punk out.
Post match, Cena came out, and Show was on the side. Show tried to convince Cena to cash in the briefcase. But nope, Cena announced that he was cashing it in next week. The show ended with Cena hitting Show on the head with the case.




Good Raw. Looking forward to next week.

Kanto_Johto
July 17th, 2012, 06:16 PM
I saw this year's MITB. Honestly, I was slightly disappointed. The Smackdown MITB was incredible even though it was botch galore thanks to Sin Cara and Tensai. Apart from that, the tag team match and diva match were boring as hell, the WHC match and Ryback's match were slightly better but not much, the WWE championship match was actually pretty good, but the Raw MITB was ruined for me thanks to Cena winning. Way too much of a predictable move on WWE's part. Would've been much more interesting if Big Show or Kane had won since they haven't held the WWE title in quite some time.

Not a bad PPV by any means but there's no way I'd recommend buying it on DVD (or Blu-ray if you use them).

Honest
July 18th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Ehhh, I don't know, mate. I thought it was fairly well. Predictable? Definitely. But that doesn't really make it bad, does it? They were good matches, still. Well, most of them. The SD! Ladder Match did have a few botches, although they weren't that. I'm not a Sin Cara hater, so I won't rip on him for the messed up moonsault flip. I recall Tensai messing up at one part, too. But you have to admit there were awesome spots, like Kidd's ladder stunt, I think it was a sunset flip. Had the crowd chanting Holy ****. I agree with everything else, and I do have to admit, the Raw Ladder match was sad. I knew Cena'd win, and I'm not REALLY upset. On the bright side, he's gonna loose it soon, I think. It's gonna be Lesnar vs Rock @ Mania. So I have hope.

Kanto_Johto
July 24th, 2012, 05:09 AM
Raw Review 23/7/12 (Episode 1000!)

Before my review, I'd just like to say this: what is it with American TV and commercials? There literally must have been about 10 commercial breaks last night. At one point Raw was actually back from a break for 3 minutes before another 5 minute break. It was nuts.

Anyways, review time:

DX reunion: When HBK and HHH came out for the DX reunion, I was a tad worried that was all we'd see. Then Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and XPac came out and made the reunion as awesome as it possibly could be. Amazing opening to the show.
Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara and Sheamus vs. Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler and Alberto Del Rio: This match wasn't bad but wasn't that great either. The best part was GOOD OL' JR on commentary with Cole and King. Unfortunately this was the only match he called. Really he should have been there for the whole thing.
Cole and King with Charlie Sheen on Skype: This was funny at first but got old pretty quickly. By the third time it was just plain annoying.
Backstage segment with AJ and Layla: AJ talks about the WWE being unstable and opens her changing room door. Outside is Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Roddy Piper and R-Truth with Little Jimmy, and Mae Young with a grown up version of her son, the Hand. This part made me laugh so much. I can just imagine the kids in the audience who have no idea why Mae was with a man dressed in a hand outfit. Brilliant.
Jack Swagger vs. Brodus Clay: Fairly short match, so not a lot I can say, but Dude Love making an appearance and dancing in the ring was pretty nostalgic. Didn't expect Mick to be at the show. His dancing was pretty awful but it was awesome to see that the Dude Love gimmick hadn't been forgotten.
Daniel Bryan and AJ "wedding": I didn't care all that much for this, but seeing Slick as the reverend was great. The wedding didn't go as planned for Bryan and AJ was announced by Vince as the new GM of Raw. Was totally not expecting that, so props to WWE for that unpredictable move. Not sure how AJ as GM will pan out though.
Rock, Punk and Bryan segment: This was pretty cool. The best part of this was Rock announcing that he would face the WWE champion at the Royal Rumble. Rock vs. CM Punk in a WWE title match? Yes please.
WWE Intercontinental Title Match: The Miz vs. Christian: This starts off with Bret Hart as ring announcer and timekeeper, which was pretty cool. The match itself was actually pretty good. Wasn't expecting the title to change hands, but it was great to see Christian hand down the gold.
HHH, Stephanie McMahon, Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman segment: HHH calls out Lesnar but Heyman comes out instead and turns HHH's challenge down. Stephanie and HHH provoke him and he provokes them, and he changes his answer and accepts the challenge on Lesnar's behalf. Pretty good segment with lots of harsh words.
Lita vs. Heath Slater: Obviously Lita won. The best part was the return of the APA and other WWE legends: Animal, Sid, Vader, Rikishi, Sgt. Slaughter, Roddy Piper, Diamond Dallas Page, Doink the Clown and Bob Backlund. Another great match ending despite its shortness. Oh, and of course Ron Simmons said DAMN!
Brothers of Destruction return: This part was great to see too. Undertaker and Kane two guys who made Raw great during the attitude era, and Undertake was at the first ever Raw in 1993, so it only made sense for him to make an appearance. When Kane's music hit I was hoping for his classic attire. Oh well, it was still an amazing segment.
WWE Title Match: John Cena vs. CM Punk: Overall the match wasn't too great, and the ending didn't seem much better until Rock came out to confront the interfering Big Show. Punk attacking the Rock and turning Heel was a highlight. A great twist that was completely unpredictable.

Pros:
DX reunion
JR makes an appearance
Hilarious backstage segment with Mae Young and the Hand
Dude Love gimmick returns
Rock vs. CM Punk teaser
Intercontinental title match
HHH, Steph, Heyman and Lesnar segment
Lita vs. Heath Slater with the return of APA and legends
Brothers of Destruction reunite/Undertaker returns to Raw for the night

Cons:
Charlie Sheen kept popping up on Skype which became annoying
The wedding segment was stupid. Only saving grace was the announcement of AJ as the new GM
Stone Cold Steve Austin doesn't make an appearance

Overall a good show. I've bolded that last con because I cannot believe that Austin wasn't a part of the show. He should have been booked months in advance for this event, seeing as they hyped it up for about 3 months. How the company's most profitable wrestler in history did not make an appearance is beyond me. It was still a great show though.

Honest
July 27th, 2012, 07:55 AM
Good review, I agree with almost everything. I missed RAW this week, and I'll miss it again for the next three weeks, along with any other show, for that matter. But you made a very thorough review, nice job!

I liked everything except for three things:

-JR not staying for the whole thing. I mean, really? This man is a legend!
-Rock's title match. I have no issue with him having a match, I just expected it to be at Mania via him winning the Rumble. Oh well.
-CM Punk heel turn. Was it smart to turn one of the top faces so early? He's only been a face a year. Imo, he should've stayed face a while longer. But I'm not really complaining, heel Punk is awesome, as shown via last years pipebomb.


Oh, the adult hand part left me dying of laughter. Good to see they remember that.

Baker's Bulbasaur
August 7th, 2012, 06:54 PM
Watching this weeks Raw found me thinking to myself

Why isn't there a WWE themed section on the forum? Surely there are fans of it out there?

So looking around, I found this little club! =)

Entry Questionnare:
-What wrestling business do you watch most?
WWE, but I watch TNA every week too, but have watched WWE since I was 10.

-Who is your favorite wrestler?
1 - CM Punk (Literally, Best In the World)
2 - Daniel Bryan
3 - Chris Jericho
But back in the day it was a cross of either The Rock or Jericho (Obviously still love the latter, but to pick an undisputed first for modern day it's defenitely Punk)

-What is your favorite finisher:
GTS
Crippler Crossface / Yes Lock
Styles Clash

-Favorite match?
Survivor series 2002 - Team WWE VS The Alliance for control of the WWE

30 Minute ultimate Submission Match - Chris Benoit VS Chris Jericho

Money In The Bank (Punks ''Last'' match) cena VS Punk for WWE Title

Could name loads more but I wont xD

Honest
August 8th, 2012, 11:43 AM
Watching this weeks Raw found me thinking to myself

Why isn't there a WWE themed section on the forum? Surely there are fans of it out there?

So looking around, I found this little club! =)

Entry Questionnare:
-What wrestling business do you watch most?
WWE, but I watch TNA every week too, but have watched WWE since I was 10.

-Who is your favorite wrestler?
1 - CM Punk (Literally, Best In the World)
2 - Daniel Bryan
3 - Chris Jericho
But back in the day it was a cross of either The Rock or Jericho (Obviously still love the latter, but to pick an undisputed first for modern day it's defenitely Punk)

-What is your favorite finisher:
GTS
Crippler Crossface / Yes Lock
Styles Clash

-Favorite match?
Survivor series 2002 - Team WWE VS The Alliance for control of the WWE

30 Minute ultimate Submission Match - Chris Benoit VS Chris Jericho

Money In The Bank (Punks ''Last'' match) cena VS Punk for WWE Title

Could name loads more but I wont xD

Haha, I thought the same thing before I made this club. And you've been approved! Although I will say this, apparently the Yes Lock's been dubbed the No Lock now, that's what I heard anyway.

I've been missing out on everything wrestling for the last few weeks thanks to commitments. But I heard the 3 hour episodes have been doing well so far. Punk's heel turn is something I'm totally looking forward to.

Baker's Bulbasaur
August 12th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Smackdown and Raw mostly just annoyed me this week, they are absolutely burying The Miz and Daniel Bryan, arguably one of the best wrestlers and charamatic mic performers the company has ever seen.

Views on this?

Kanto_Johto
August 12th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Smackdown and Raw mostly just annoyed me this week, they are absolutely burying The Miz and Daniel Bryan, arguably one of the best wrestlers and charamatic mic performers the company has ever seen.

Views on this?I haven't really been paying too much attention to The Miz mic wise, but I disagree with you completely about Daniel Bryan. He's an incredible mic performer and I really think it's been on the surface for a while now, particularly last week (or the week before? I forget) when he was in the room with that mental examiner and he went mental at the goat picture. That was hilarious.

Paul Heyman is still the absolute best on the mic though. He was godly in the segment with HHH and Stephanie on Raw 1000.

Baker's Bulbasaur
August 13th, 2012, 12:04 PM
I haven't really been paying too much attention to The Miz mic wise, but I disagree with you completely about Daniel Bryan. He's an incredible mic performer and I really think it's been on the surface for a while now, particularly last week (or the week before? I forget) when he was in the room with that mental examiner and he went mental at the goat picture. That was hilarious.

Paul Heyman is still the absolute best on the mic though. He was godly in the segment with HHH and Stephanie on Raw 1000.



Disagree with me? I said he was one of the best on the mic =/
Arguably the best overall performer in the company at the moment taking into account Gimmick, Mic skills and Wrestling ability.

Heyman is of course magic on the mic, always has been.

Kanto_Johto
August 13th, 2012, 03:13 PM
Disagree with me? I said he was one of the best on the mic =/
Arguably the best overall performer in the company at the moment taking into account Gimmick, Mic skills and Wrestling ability.

Heyman is of course magic on the mic, always has been.No, I meant I disagree that they're burying him because he's had good mic opportunities recently, which is why I used an example from last week/two weeks ago/whenever it was :).

Baker's Bulbasaur
August 13th, 2012, 07:14 PM
No, I meant I disagree that they're burying him because he's had good mic opportunities recently, which is why I used an example from last week/two weeks ago/whenever it was :).

Ah I see!

Thing is, when he won the title, they were continuously making him look weak, I mean I get that they were turning him Heel so getting some cheap victories and running away etc, the usual heel stuff was kinda necessary but they well overdid it, and it's still happening.

Bryans matches with Punk for the title were phenomenal, and infact anyone he had shared the ring with, but they just make him look terrible by constantly making him lose, whether it's Seamus, Cena, whoever. Other then him picking up the pinfall win 2 weeks ago on raw in the 6 man tag match, I can't remember the last time Bryan won a match, it's ridiculous.

I get it's partly to add to his ''Anger Management'' angle, but there's a line ya know...

Honest
August 15th, 2012, 02:41 PM
I've been missing WWE for a few weeks now, due to reasons, but from what I hear, Miz has been going somewhere. They decided to place the IC title on him, and that has to lead somewhere. His match with Christian was pretty good for a TV match, too. Or so I heard.

As for D-Bry, he's been roaring. But there's only one issue I have, and it's not his fault. I don't like how he's gone all NO NO NO. The yes chant's what put him where he is. Why do that?

Kanto_Johto
September 10th, 2012, 08:44 PM
I'm really loving the direction the WWE is going at the moment, especially with the idea of Rock vs. Punk for the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble. My prediction is that Rock will win the title and John Cena will win the Royal Rumble match, which will result in The Rock vs. John Cena II for the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania.

If that goes down, I may just have to order Wrestlemania this year. The event will be worth that match alone.

Seriously though, the World Heavyweight Championship match better not be the first match again for the third year running. It didn't work at Wrestlemania 27 and it was a joke at Wrestlemania 28. Especially considering Alberto Del Rio and Sheamus both won the Royal Rumble match, which is supposed to allow whoever wins to headline Wrestlemania.

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Did you guys see Raw tonight? Jerry Lawler collapsed during the show and Michael Cole was barely able to speak while he was still commentating. After a while WWE decided there would be no commentating for the rest of the night (Cole was probably unable to because he was really shaken up). I wasn't watching but I heard about it online and it made me genuinely scared. I love the King. Apparently he's doing well now, but we'll probably find out more about his health tomorrow.

I really hope he pulls through this.

Honest
September 14th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Nooooo. I don't want Chena to win the Rumble. =/ But I think it's inevitable, they are definitely having a rematch at Mania for the title.

As for the HVWT title, I agree, it's really gotta go on later. They made it look so bad at Mania 28. I remember blinking at missing it, seriously.

I saw it, and god, it was scary. Happened during the #1 contenders bout for the Tag titles. Apparently, Jerry had a heart attack. He was revived a number of times backstage, and the worry after that was that there was brain damage.


By the blessing of some higher force, he hasn't gotten any. He's acting and breathing on his own, and can communicate. God bless the man, he really is a fighter.

Kanto_Johto
September 14th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Lawler was pretty lucky to have the heart attack when he did, with First Aid and the E.M.Ts able to be there seconds after they realised there was a serious problem. If he'd have been at home or in his hotel room he would most likely have died. It's a pretty scary thought.

Glad he's back to being himself with no brain damage. The rumour was that he was dead for 20 minutes. Clearly that can't be true if he's able to walk and talk in the same way he always has. I'm really happy for him and glad he's regaining his health. Long live the King!

Osiris
September 14th, 2012, 07:49 PM
Don't know how I managed to miss this before, but I figured I would sign up.

What wrestling business do you watch most?
WWE. I used to watch TNA once and a while, but my TV provider dropped Spike TV, so now I only follow it occassionally through recaps (which is a shame, since I'd love to be able to see Aries' run as champ).

Who is your favorite wrestler?
All time, it would have to be Edge, for too many reasons to name (a certain other Canadian wrestler was 2nd on that list, until that unfortunate June 2007 weekend). Currently, though, it's Daniel Bryan.

What is your favorite finisher (include the person(s) who uses it!)
Can't say as I have one favorite finisher, but I'm always a sucker for a good submission. Currently, I love the No Lock, Anaconda Vise and the Sharpshooter (but only Natalya's- it seems only the Harts can do it properly). I also like Justin Gabriel's 450 Splash, and it was pretty cool to see it live back in January.

Favorite match?
I don't know if I have one favorite match. One of the first ones that comes to mind was Shelton Benjamin vs. Shawn Michaels in 2004-5. That was probably the best match I can ever remember on free TV. Also both of the HBK vs Undertaker matches at Wrestlemania were really good, considering the age of both the guys and the length that the matches went.

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I was actually at work during Raw this week, but I had recorded it to watch when I got home. I was watching the Lawler/Orton vs. Ziggler/Punk match when my dad told me he read on his phone what had happened to Jerry. There wasn't any real news yet, and I was almost sick to my stomach watching the match. He was so fortunate to be in the position he was, because if he were basically anywhere but at ringside, he wouldn't have made it.

It's incredible to see how fast he's recovering, and that doctors have even said he's healthy enough to get back into the ring in the future (but if I were him, I don't think I would take that chance).

Honest
September 16th, 2012, 10:28 AM
I was actually at work during Raw this week, but I had recorded it to watch when I got home. I was watching the Lawler/Orton vs. Ziggler/Punk match when my dad told me he read on his phone what had happened to Jerry. There wasn't any real news yet, and I was almost sick to my stomach watching the match. He was so fortunate to be in the position he was, because if he were basically anywhere but at ringside, he wouldn't have made it.

It's incredible to see how fast he's recovering, and that doctors have even said he's healthy enough to get back into the ring in the future (but if I were him, I don't think I would take that chance).

You're in buddy, welcome to the club.

Oh man, it must've been worse to have prior knowledge about the scenario before it happened. But it truly is amazing how fast he's recovering. Like what Kanto said, had he been anywhere else, I don't know how lucky he'd be.

Osiris
October 1st, 2012, 09:39 PM
I've been catching up with what I've had DVRed since I've been so busy over the past few weeks, but I'm quite interested in the whole deal between Skip Sheffield Ryback and CM Punk. It's kind of strange how quickly Ryback has gone from squashing jobbers and lower-mid carders to beating the Intercontinental Champion in 2 minutes and intimidating the WWE Champion. I love his character and that the crowd seems behind him, but I fear that he'll turn into another Mason Ryan or Ezekiel Jackson if pushed too far, too fast (although, that method seems to have worked out for Sheamus pretty well).

I also really love the disfunctional Team Hell No as of late. The very first time they took the anger management course, I immediately recognized that they would be a future team, and I'm glad it came to fruition. And I like that WWE is finally rebuilding their Tag Team division, after so many years of it being ignored. Hopefully we'll see either the Rhodes Scholars or Mysterio & Sin Cara win this 8 team tournament to challenge for the titles at the next pay per view.

Honest
October 7th, 2012, 09:34 AM
Eh, I'm not so sure I'd say Sheamus was pushed really quickly, unless you're talking about his push as a heel?

And I love Ryback's character, but like you said, I'm worried he's being pushed to fast. He's brute strength, that might not work well when it comes to a 20 minute match for the world title.

As for Team Hell No, I love everything about them. I've always liked Kane, and I've always loved Bryan Danielson. The teams gonna last a while, for sure. And as for the rebirth of the tag team division, I'll give the WWE a nod of approval. A couple of years late, but hey, better late then never.

Dreg
October 7th, 2012, 10:30 AM
-What wrestling business do you watch most? TNA

-Who is your favorite wrestler?
Of all time, it has to be Ultimo Dragon. He held something like 10 titles at once, and was pleased when I saw him in WWE. He just wasn't utilized enough and should have been kept on. I saw him in WCW also. Currently, my favorite wrestler is now AJ Styles.

-What is your favorite finisher (include the person(s) who uses it!)
Asai DDT (Ultimo Dragon)
Somersault Cutter aka Diamond Dust (Layla, Masato Tanaka)
Egyptian Conniption (Amasis)
Submissions:
Crippler Crossface (Chris Benoit)
Coquina Clutch (Samoa Joe)
Batista Bite (Batista)
-Favorite match?
This is going a long way back, and it was the match between Razor Ramon vs The Kid. I still see it as the biggest upset match, because The Kid didn't need any help to beat Razor, only a moonsault did it. The Kid went in that ring as a nobody, then came out as a somebody. The Kid -> 1-2-3 Kid.

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I'm really liking the Aces & Eights angle on TNA, since coming back to watch it in early July. I actually hope they win at the next PPV (sure it is Bound for Glory). Since Joseph Park has been trying to get evidence from Aces & Eights, I think it's a ruse and I think he is playing Hogan for a fool. I honestly think Park is part of Aces & Eights.

Hogan "signed" something before getting maced, so I wonder if there is something else that is on the line in the match.

I'm really liking the fact that Austin Aries is the TNA World Heavyweight Champion, and I hope he beats Jeff Hardy. I would have preferred Aries to face Bully Ray instead.

Osiris
October 9th, 2012, 11:43 AM
Eh, I'm not so sure I'd say Sheamus was pushed really quickly, unless you're talking about his push as a heel?

And I love Ryback's character, but like you said, I'm worried he's being pushed to fast. He's brute strength, that might not work well when it comes to a 20 minute match for the world title.

As for Team Hell No, I love everything about them. I've always liked Kane, and I've always loved Bryan Danielson. The teams gonna last a while, for sure. And as for the rebirth of the tag team division, I'll give the WWE a nod of approval. A couple of years late, but hey, better late then never.

Yeah, I was talking about Sheamus' push back in 2009. His whole ECW run he was basically a mid-carder. Once on Raw, within about a month's time, he went from feuding with Jamie Noble to winning the WWE Championship, only about half a year after his TV debut. The monster push seems to have helped him in the long run (he's been the Heavyweight champ since Wrestlemania), but I just can't see it working for Ryback at this point.

I find myself getting bored with Raw lately, though. I think they were over ambitious when they moved to a 3 hour show, and the TV ratings have shown. I just don't feel like sitting there watching it the entire time, which is why I've been DVRing it even when I am home. I find that I can watch Raw in about 75 minutes when skipping through commercials, recaps and squash matches, so it's not like they couldn't fit all of that content back into their two hour slot. I actually hoped that was what Mr. McMahon's State of the WWE address was about last night, but at least it lead to an entertaining brawl between him and Punk.

Honest
October 10th, 2012, 01:55 PM
Eh, I'm gonna be open minded about the quick push for Ryback. People are cheering for him, so you never know!

And Monday's Raw was really good, in my opinion. However, did anyone notice what happened at the end with Punk? As McMahon was announcing the decision Punk had to make (Ryback or Cena), Punk elbowed some fan in the face. Apparently what happened is that there was no security with Punk, and some idiot decided to smack Punks head. He did it hiding behind some innocent dude, to, and he hit him multiple times from the back. Eventually, Punk got pissed and just elbowed him. Now, the guy who got hit's thinking about filing a lawsuit.

Damn.

Osiris
October 16th, 2012, 12:34 PM
I was doing other things while watching Raw last night, so I didn't quite catch all of it, but it looks like they're actually pulling the trigger on Punk vs. Ryback. I'm going to preface this by saying I've actually enjoyed the meteoric rise of Ryback, but I really think WWE's backed themselves into a corner here. Since the match is a Hell in a Cell with no DQ's, they're going to either have to end one of the best title reigns in recent memory, or they'll have to kill off one of the best things they have going with Ryback's undefeated streak. Any other PPV and this could have worked (just have Punk retain by DQ), but now they're left with a decision where I'm sure even Vince doesn't know what he wants to do yet.

Eh, I'm gonna be open minded about the quick push for Ryback. People are cheering for him, so you never know!

And Monday's Raw was really good, in my opinion. However, did anyone notice what happened at the end with Punk? As McMahon was announcing the decision Punk had to make (Ryback or Cena), Punk elbowed some fan in the face. Apparently what happened is that there was no security with Punk, and some idiot decided to smack Punks head. He did it hiding behind some innocent dude, to, and he hit him multiple times from the back. Eventually, Punk got pissed and just elbowed him. Now, the guy who got hit's thinking about filing a lawsuit.

Damn.
The only thing I can think of now is that maybe Ryback will win the title from Punk, and it would be his punishment for doing that. But then again I can't see Ryback facing The Rock at Royal Rumble, which is why I think they've gotten themselves into a big mess.

EDIT: Right after posting this, I had a bit of an idea that could actually keep both runs going, and still make perfect sense. During the Cell match, Brock Lesnar (also a Paul Heyman guy), could do a run-in and start going back and forth with Ryback. During the ensuing chaos, Punk could slink out of the Cell and head to the back, while Ryback and Lesnar are still brawling. The match could then end in a no contest, and set up Ryback vs. Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series, and still give John Cena a few more weeks to heal before he takes on Punk in a rematch.

Honest
October 16th, 2012, 06:41 PM
I was doing other things while watching Raw last night, so I didn't quite catch all of it, but it looks like they're actually pulling the trigger on Punk vs. Ryback. I'm going to preface this by saying I've actually enjoyed the meteoric rise of Ryback, but I really think WWE's backed themselves into a corner here. Since the match is a Hell in a Cell with no DQ's, they're going to either have to end one of the best title reigns in recent memory, or they'll have to kill off one of the best things they have going with Ryback's undefeated streak. Any other PPV and this could have worked (just have Punk retain by DQ), but now they're left with a decision where I'm sure even Vince doesn't know what he wants to do yet.


The only thing I can think of now is that maybe Ryback will win the title from Punk, and it would be his punishment for doing that. But then again I can't see Ryback facing The Rock at Royal Rumble, which is why I think they've gotten themselves into a big mess.

EDIT: Right after posting this, I had a bit of an idea that could actually keep both runs going, and still make perfect sense. During the Cell match, Brock Lesnar (also a Paul Heyman guy), could do a run-in and start going back and forth with Ryback. During the ensuing chaos, Punk could slink out of the Cell and head to the back, while Ryback and Lesnar are still brawling. The match could then end in a no contest, and set up Ryback vs. Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series, and still give John Cena a few more weeks to heal before he takes on Punk in a rematch.


That's actually a really good way to book it, actually. However, there's two things I can think of that would make this less likely to happen, aside from the fact that the creative team isn't simply that good. Lesnar's got a limited amount of days in contract, and I think WWE would rather use him against someone with a lot more experience. Also, I think Ryback's been pushed too quickly, it's not his time.


But if it does happen, I'll be pretty psyched!

Osiris
October 23rd, 2012, 02:33 PM
I'm still racking my brain as to what could possibly happen come Sunday, but even as much as I like CM Punk, it would be very interesting to see Ryback win the title. Granted, I still don't think that it's his time either (he really should have been challenging The Miz for the Intercontinental title to continually build him), but CM Punk's run has started to get stale, especially with the cowardly heel that he's playing. Either way, this is probably the most excited I've been for a PPV main event since Cena vs. Rock at Wrestlemania.

The biggest problem I had with Raw this week was the resignation of AJ as the GM, and then hiring Vickie Guerrero as the Managing Supervisor. Granted, AJ wasn't one of my favorite GMs (even though she's my favorite diva besides Natalya), but the whole angle of her stepping down because she was "fraternizing" with another superstar makes absolutely no sense. Even Vickie herself was married to Edge in her run as Smackdown GM, and prior to Wrestlemania Teddy Long was with Aksana, and no one had problems with that. I just saw it as a poor excuse to try and switch things up, but they could have picked any replacement better than Vickie. Heck, I would have preferred to see John Laryngitis back.

Speaking of which, it also hit me today that Vickie has been in the WWE for 6 and a half years now, which is longer than Eddie was ever with the company. I know she was given a long-term deal after Eddie passed, but I don't think anyone expected her to be around this long.

Osiris
November 19th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Bumping to hopefully save the club from extinction (or, from being Future Endeavored, if you will).

It's definitely been interesting seeing how the creative team booked their way out of Ryback-Punk, first by having Brad Maddox screw Ryback out of the title (I knew something was going to happen even before the match started when I saw he was the ref). And last night, they brought Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and Dean Ambrose up to the main roster, by having them ambush Ryback as we was about to win the WWE title again. Personally, I think this is the best thing they could have done by making Ryback look as strong as ever, but start to move him away from the title picture, and hopefully elevate Ambrose and Rollins early in their runs.

Also, does anyone play the WWE games, more specifically WWE 13? I've only had a few of them over the past few years, but I've found myself really enjoying '13, especially with a lot of the Attitude Era roster, and the very well done Attitude Era mode itself. It's a shame that THQ has reportedly filed for bankruptcy, since this is one of my favorite wrestling games in a long time.

Dreg
December 1st, 2012, 04:23 PM
I'm a bit angry that AJ styles can't have another WHC match up until Bound For Glory, why couldn't it have been Bobby Roode instead? Styles hasn't been in the WHC picture since 2009.

Still liking the Aces and Eights angle, with the Director of Chaos getting to be a full member.

I watched Gut Check OFN, and York did excellent in his match with Jeff Hardy. Taeler Hendrix did good in her match with Tara, and that she is now my favorite TNA knockout. I'm liking Austin Aries now, because I like the fact he hates popularity and makes excellent points while still gaining heat from the crowd. Truly the greatest man that ever lived.

Osiris
December 2nd, 2012, 10:52 AM
I'm a bit angry that AJ styles can't have another WHC match up until Bound For Glory, why couldn't it have been Bobby Roode instead? Styles hasn't been in the WHC picture since 2009.

Still liking the Aces and Eights angle, with the Director of Chaos getting to be a full member.

I watched Gut Check OFN, and York did excellent in his match with Jeff Hardy. Taeler Hendrix did good in her match with Tara, and that she is now my favorite TNA knockout. I'm liking Austin Aries now, because I like the fact he hates popularity and makes excellent points while still gaining heat from the crowd. Truly the greatest man that ever lived.
I think that Austin Aries (much like CM Punk in WWE) are playing their heel roles so well, that you begin to like them more the harder they try to make themselves hated. Makes me wish my cable provider still carried Spike and TNA (they stopped back in the summer) as watching WWE is nice, but I've been missing out on seeing Aries, who was one of my favorites even back in ROH. I've also been quite interested in the Aces and Eights angle, but haven't been able to follow that much, either :\

AwesomeAsCrawdaunt
December 2nd, 2012, 10:58 AM
-What wrestling business do you watch most? TNA
-Who is your favorite wrestler? Christopher Daniels
-What is your favorite finisher (include the person(s) who uses it!) Inverted DDT / Scorpion Death Drop (Sting)
-Favorite match? Austin Aries vs Samoa Joe is a great recent one.

If anyone wants more pro wrestling discussion I'm a member of WrestlingForum.com (not telling who though). I also moderate a forum that I want to grow, http://forums.memegeneokerlund.com so if you could join it that would be great.

Honest
December 16th, 2012, 07:28 PM
Yeee, I'm back. And I'm watching TLC right now.

Quick tidbits, The Shield won. And their match was amazing. That is all. Watching Cena vs Ziggler right now!

Osiris
December 16th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Disappointed I had to work tonight, as I've heard many people say the TLC match was a very strong match of the year candidate. Also glad to see that Dolph Ziggler won (with help from AJ), as I was fearing that Cena would end up winning, and it would be conveniently forgotten that the briefcase was only for the World Heavyweight Championship, and then he would cash it in on The Rock at Wrestlemania in a rematch.